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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 7:47 am 
I deliberately did not watch the last 3 episodes out of fear that Jackson would win. What is up with the comment that Sam was not allowed to speak since he is white male ? What in the world ...someone please explain but I think I have the genesis of that comment. Not even gonna go there....life is too short and I would offend someone I am oh so sure.
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Sleepwalker42
Member
07-07-2018
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 8:47 am
Mara the comment comes from the fact that that segment pandered to the SJW crowd and tried to villianize players by pretending that they were racist, sexist, or ageist. Sam didn't benefit that narrative. CBS needed Jack to say that he was ignorant and wants to grow as a person, and Kemi and David to sit on a high horse of ersatz victimization in order to pander to a whiney fan base.
Sam didn't fit the narrative. But please, offend away.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 9:30 am
Sam would have just smiled and yelled "SEND IT!!" The other stories WERE more compelling than Sam, who just got along with everyone and was never guilty nor accused of the stuff other HGs chose to say/do, some of which seemed racist to HGs AND viewers alike. Not ALL comments were racist, but I was certainly uncomfortable with things which were said/done by people who KNEW they were being televised 24/7. I grew up when such behavior was common, and my generation learned it was no longer accepted. These 20-30-somethings have been raised in a time where they were TAUGHT what is socially acceptable for these times, but not everyone sees it the same way.
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Sleepwalker42
Member
07-07-2018
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 10:35 am
I don't know that any comment was actually racist, but when people want to dislike someone, and this board had a really disturbing disdain for Jackson, they can find it.
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Mom_of_three
Member
08-01-2011
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 12:17 pm
I think it is ridiculous that they did that last night when they did nothing to Paul for all of his bullying. I am sorry season 19. Was so much worse with behavioral issues and bb didn’t say a word. So therefore I hated what they did
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 12:29 pm
I am glad that things turned out the way they did.In some small way perhaps David,Kemi and Ovi had the last word. Sam was a good guy and I hope that he and David get a 2nd chance on BB or the Amazing Race. Unfortunately Miche won the worst season ever imo and hopefully he will not be tolerated on other CBS shows.
Looks like I need to watch On Demand to make sure I have a clear understanding of what happened. If Jackson took some heat I say.....YES !
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 12:45 pm
I do not equate bullying to racism and misogyny.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 12:48 pm
Oh and Queenfish I want to tell you that on an interview after the show Jack took full responsibility for his actions, said they were wrong and that he owed Kemi David and Ovi apologies. He also said that he could understand if they were not accepted but he meant them.
People can learn. But only if they admit to their mistakes.
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Queenfish
Member
07-19-2006
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 1:07 pm
thanks Keldogg,,,that is very encouraging ..I think we can all learn, if we want to, and I hope for some of these people, this experience helps them grow. I certainly believe it is possible and I do agree with your above statement..Hey, we were all young, once.
24 year old me, was much different than 54 year old me..lol
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Firebird05
Member
08-24-2001
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 1:23 pm
24 year olds well many of them are looking at life thru blinders only seeing the small picture because they are trying to find their way and don’t yet know who they are, let alone how to navigate the road to who they want to be.
My 59 year old self would have to give my 24 year old self a smack on the head and a serious talking to.
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Realitytvfan
Member
08-06-2016
| Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 6:28 pm
LOL Firebird, my 62 year old self would definitely be doing the same to my 24 year old self. Having said that, this generation have been taught better (I would hope) and I was glad that Julie called Jack, Jackson and the "8" out on their racism/stuff. I found it very offensive and very cringe worthy. I was glad that Jackson looked like his balloon had all of the air let out and didn't seem to enjoy his win...good, that was some consolation. I hope that they all watch the whole season and learn from it. Nicole was very forgiving (I thought that she would be but you never really know how anyone is going to feel) and I hope that she will get some work out of this show (I would never want to see any of the 8 except maybe Kat on anything). I don't see the Jolly romance continuing after their responses last night either...no surprise there.
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Rainbow
Member
09-29-2006
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 1:07 am
Marameko, I would not only like to see CBS "tolerate" Jackson on their other shows, I would love to see Jackson and Holly on The Amazing Race......and bet they would win!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 1:14 am
I didn't buy Jack's apologies.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 6:44 am
I think discussing it on the show is counter-productive. It doesn't give the offenders a chance to see why they are being called out (and most times people this age tend to be pretty self-absorbed). I would prefer to see a panel discussion AFTER they have had a chance to review the offenses and then give their apologies...or whatever they are going to choose to say...or perhaps the night before the end of the show have them view what was said so they are at least prepared.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 7:30 am
I agree Roxip
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Sunnyday
Member
08-07-2014
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 7:59 am
I wish that they had shown some clips of what they said so that Jackson, Christie, etc. could see their behavior then asked them to explain why they
acted that way.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 8:32 am
Yes, they need an "after the rose" type show, that is filmed a few days after they get out of the house and then aired a week after finale. It would be interesting to see what each one thought about how they were portrayed on TV, what they saw in diary room segments, etc.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 9:15 am
Roxip, I was uncomfortable with it too. These folks are coming out of 3 months of isolation, while they are being spoken to by folks who have had the ability to process it with trusted friends and family.
It's not really a fair situation, and I don't think it was the right thing to do.
Have a reunion if that's necessary.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 9:28 am
Nicole was IN the house as long or longer than most other HGs... she knew at the time of the incidences/words that is was WRONG. The other "adults" in the house should have known too. Unkind thoughts do not need to be spoken, especially when the speaker KNOWS THEY ARE WEARING A MIC FOR ALL AMERICA TO HEAR! I just hope this season serves an example for future HGs; they might not "remember" what they say to or about someone, but that doesn't mean they didn't say/do it!
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Worldtraveller
Member
06-26-2019
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 9:42 am
PLEASE...NO ONE from this season ruining the Amazing Race.
When people show you who they are, believe them.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 9:46 am
The point is not who was in or out of the house at the time.
The point is that distance, and look backs give you a different perspective. It was a blindside.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 9:56 am
Roxip, I was uncomfortable with it too. These folks are coming out of 3 months of isolation, while they are being spoken to by folks who have had the ability to process it with trusted friends and family.
It's not really a fair situation, and I don't think it was the right thing to do.
Have a reunion if that's necessary.
I agree Karuuna as well as Roxip. It didn't sit right with me. I felt like it was an ambush.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 10:05 am
Sadly, it was only a blindside for those who were not self-aware. These people KNEW cameras/mics were recording/televising EVERYTHING, yet they still said/did those things. And actually, we all seemed to believe certain HGs were called into DR and given a heads up about what they were doing/saying... so a few of the worst offenders should not have been "blindsided" at all. Remember, Jackson was Pre Law, he repeatedly said "it's not whether you're guilty, it's whether it can be PROVEN." #zingbotcalledit
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Queenfish
Member
07-19-2006
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 10:34 am
I agree calimom. They did it. They signed the contract that anything they did could be used. They deserved it, In my book.
If ya can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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Sportsfan
Member
09-03-2007
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 11:52 am
From 1st show-Kemi said in her introduction that basically she is not a nice person,a reformed mean girl which only lasted two weeks and she is going to be herself. Well she was and the other house guests did not like it.
Jackson only had 6 people to choose from when he was Camp Director, he did not want to nominate those who voted for him when he was Camp director. He was not going to choose Kat (who he was knocking knees with) or Analyse who was tight with Jack
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 12:35 pm
If only the other mean girls/boys had been so honest, even if only to the viewers... it was no secret for very long, they should have let us in on it from the beginning, like Kemi did! Some of them STILL think THEY are the ones who were bullied---hopefully time will bring them to their senses!
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Worldtraveller
Member
06-26-2019
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 8:37 pm
I told you all you should have googled Dead Set and watched the zombies take care of the BB dipshites.
LOL
Anyway...the houseguests have learned nothing despite the internet, youtube, Instagram, twitter and facebook….and a gazillion vlogs, blogs ugh
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Queenfish
Member
07-19-2006
| Friday, September 27, 2019 - 9:06 pm
World,,,I watched it. Hilarious. Totally should happen
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Saturday, September 28, 2019 - 8:32 am
My problem is they didn't call out everyone. I apologize I forget who it was put up a youtube video, showing Cliff and Kat up to their eyeballs in dissing Kemi. Why were they not called out too. Is it because Cliff is the older guy and Kat is the cute bubbly blonde they were hoping would be Janelle 2.0? All or none. If they didn't have have time to call them all out then just drop it, until interviews.
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Sunnyday
Member
08-07-2014
| Saturday, September 28, 2019 - 8:59 am
They called out the ones that the fans were most vocal about.
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Moderator
Moderator
06-29-2002
| Saturday, September 28, 2019 - 10:05 am
Well the live feeds are ... done. Thanks everyone! 
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