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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I consider the treasure to be the ideas, plots imagination, but I still have books that I find hard to give up.

I have been donating batches to Friends of the Library.

I guess I love reading more than actual boojs, though I only came to that conclusion after I bought my first Kindle years ago. I didn't think I would like or use it. Wrong.

This bio of Robin Williams is sadder than I thought it would be. I am up to where he lost his second wife and kids (they had two and Zak was a young adult by then) when he relapsed back into heavy drinking and went to rehab.

Then he required heart procedures and his new girlfriend shut the family (his ex wife and son, his estranged wife,son and daughter, his remaining half brother) out. Zak contributed to the book, so we hear how they felt.

I hadn't remembered how many movies he made that were bad choices.. He had a hard time saying no.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
If you're trying to understand the book market, you have to look at the stats in various formats.

MORE Ebooks are sold than print books (in actual numbers of "books" sold), but they cost less, so they make up less than half of the *dollar* share.

Some of the shift away from ebooks is from online retailers (Amazon), pushing digital prices up. But 80% of what they sell is still digital.

If you look at only the fiction market, however, the dollar sales of ebooks are more than half of the market, in total sales.

Why? Because the cost of textbooks (not always available in digital format) pushes dollar sales of print books way up. Overpriced, in fact.

So, it depends on how you look at the figures. If you are looking at total dollar sales, ebooks make up about 30% of the market.

If you look at total unit sales, it's more like 60%.

If you segment out textbooks, Ebooks win in both categories - units and dollars.

:-)

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I love books in any and all formats, though I've discovered I do better reading Philip Rickman than listening to his books (Man in the Moss I struggled to follow on audio). I use my Kindle the most, though -I'm rarely home to read, so it's lighter and easier. Audiobooks on my phone are always on in the car.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Where did you find those stats, Kar? I'm not saying they are incorrect. I'd just like to see the source.

Ebooks certainly have started to shake the traditional publishing industry. It's a bit confusing as it has given indie authors more opportunity.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Let me see if I can find it. I research whole bunches of things for my business.

Here ya go:

http://authorearnings.com/report/january-2018-report-us-online-book-sales-q2-q4-2017/

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Thanks very much. That's a very interesting article. My understanding was that print sales had held steady for years but I guess that reporting was distorted by the academic text book sales (sorry Ricky).

A bit off-topic but, as I've said many many times, I think it is unconscionable that they keep the prices so high for audio books.

While I use the eBook format for almost all of my reading now, I'd be terribly sad if the brick and mortar stores were to go out of business.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Amazon tried to keep prices down but the late Steve Jobs colluded with publishers a the prices jumped. There were two major lawsuits. Despite the fact that I seldom pay full price for an ebook, I received two very nice settlement credits based on my records at Amazon.

And it is stated on most ebooks that the price is set by the publisher. Amazon originally took a loss on some books.

It seems like hardbacks cost more than they used to, Prior to getting a Kindle, I was deep into Barnes & Noble and got discounts. I see the discount stickers on books I still own. I loved hanging at bookstores, but I certainly spent a bunch!

Heckagirl631
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09-08-2010

Friday, January 18, 2019 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heckagirl631 a private message Print Post    
I just finished the first book of a trilogy. It's "Stars of Fortune" by Nora Roberts. It was good enough that I have ordered books 2 & 3. Should get them in a week or two.

Mak1
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08-11-2002

Friday, January 18, 2019 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
I've heard it's very good, Heckagirl.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, January 18, 2019 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Finished Robin Williams.

Sad that his third wife tried to do a bit of an end run on the family, because Robin had things well set up in terms of who got what and trusts for kids and wives. For only three years she got the house for Life and maintenance but she tried to characterize extensive collections he had amassed for his kids as "odds and ends".

He was being treated for Parkinson's but the autopsy showed that he had Lewy-body Dementia, which explains many of his symptoms.

He was clean and sober at that time, proven in the autopsy.

The book had a good set of pictures.

I am planning the next to be Tia Maria Torres' newly released book, My Life Among the Underdogs: A Memoir,

(Pit Bulls & Parolees, Villalobos rescue)

For Tia, full price 🐕

Uncle_ricky
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07-02-2007

Sunday, January 20, 2019 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Uncle_ricky a private message Print Post    
I'm glad you like the Robin Williams bio - I really liked it too.

I just finished Tana French's first book, In The Wood. It's really long, but it held my interest throughout and the payoff at the end, while it was borderline exasperating, was also quite captivating. I will definitely seek out her other books!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, January 20, 2019 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I liked how generous Robin was.. And supportive with friends..

Uncle_ricky
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07-02-2007

Monday, January 21, 2019 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Uncle_ricky a private message Print Post    
I spent the day reading the debut novel by Edouard Louis, The End of Eddy, which is correctly classified as an autobiographical novel. I can only assume most of it is based on actual events in his life.

Written when he was 19, it focuses on his growing-up years in an industrial town in northern France where gay people are rarely seen and ruthlessly harassed and vilified. The book is only 192 pages and I was grateful for that because it was VERY DIFFICULT to read the relentless abuse (physical and psychological) that's heaped upon the gay youngster protagonist, Eddy. It reminded me of Tara Westover's (non-fictional) Educated -- I'm pretty sure very little of Mr. Louis's story is fiction. He's one of the most celebrated young European writers (he's now 26) and his follow-up novel, also autobiographical, The History of Violence, is supposed to be even better.

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