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Grooch
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06-16-2006
| Wednesday, January 22, 2025 - 3:21 pm 
OK, I finally got to rewatch the show.
So, after the challenge, Bob-tdq said to nobody in particular, but loud enough for everyone to hear that they had to give shields to the 3 new guys because people are suspecting one of them may be a traitor. Thus putting an idea in everyone's head that nobody was thinking about. Why would he do that? Hmmm...
And as they were walking back to the castle, Rob told Wes and Derrick that Bob-tdq just put a target on all 3 backs. One of them loudly said the f word. Don't know which one.
So, here's an extra tidbit. Rob and Parvotti were on Watch What Happens Live last night being the bartenders. Andy asked Rob a few quick questions.
He asked Rob why he targeted Bob. Rob said that last week Bob was really pushing for Caroline to be in the casket. Rob said that really raised the red flags for him and he didn't trust him.And this week, he said about how Bob put a target on his back.
Andy then asked him if he regretted anything he did in the game.
With Rob's smug smirk that makes him look like the cat that ate the canary, Rob said no. Lol!
So, I'm taking that as either Rob is gone this week, or he wins the game. There ain't no in-between with him.
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Other observations on that episode.
After Bob was ousted, Danielle was in a room with 2 girls. One of them asked the other 2, if they thought any of the trio could be a traitor. Daniele said yes. So, Bob's comment did strike a chord with others. And Daniele is going for revenge. What a mess! I'm betting Rob gets rid of her next.
Wes was in a room with a few people. Tom Sandoval was going on (in admiration) about how sure Rob was about Bob and Tom was going to pay attention now to Rob.
Wes said something like, how can somebody be so sure unless...
And someone said, that person is a traitor. And Wes nodded yes.
So, Wes isn't keeping that knowledge secret. I wonder if Derrick will convince Wes to keep Rob a little while longer to flush out the other traitors.
And boy! Is Derrick so off about Cierra being a traitor because she curses when she's threatened because that's what guilty suspects do. I think all the people he sent to jail should have their cases reopened because of that reasoning.
And Rob never curses and he's guilty as hell. Derrick, you suck as a detective.
And with the preview for tomorrow's show, it looks like Daniele and Caroline team up together to go after Rob. I'm betting that's production misdirection. I think Rob gets to Caroline first and convinces her they need to get rid of Daniele, or something like that. Maybe he didnt. Maybe Caroline is just going along with Daniele and now doesn't trust her and runs to Rob.
Who knows? Maybe they do plan on getting rid of him, but Darrell warns Rob and at the table, Rob is able to turn the tables on her and gets everyone to vote her out.
Anyway, my guess is Danielle or Wes is gone this week. And I'm probably very wrong.
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Brenda1966
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07-02-2002
| Wednesday, January 22, 2025 - 3:41 pm
i hope that Carolyn doesn't team up with Danielle because Danielle doesn't seem to listen to her. I feel like she'd be better off teaming up with Rob. I hope she realizes it!
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Wednesday, January 22, 2025 - 9:15 pm
I agree! I am so disappointed in Danielle, thought she would be so much better
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Thursday, January 23, 2025 - 4:45 pm
1 MORE HOUR! 
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Thursday, January 23, 2025 - 8:06 pm
I'm so pissed off they keep dismissing Carolyn, she has good ideas and instincts. I have loved Dani for years but she is not playing this game well at all!!!
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Jff0319
Member
06-09-2011
| Friday, January 24, 2025 - 6:15 am
Caroline is gonna be going after Dani now for sure!!
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Thursday, January 23, 2025 - 7:08 pm
It pisses me off that they dont pay attention to Carolyn!! She has good ideas/instincts! I have loved Dani for years and am so infuriated at how dumb she is playing this game!!!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, January 25, 2025 - 6:44 am
They dismiss Carolyn because she's so freaking quirky. Seriously... she's one odd duck but I love that she's going after Danielle because I've never been a fan of BB players infecting my other shows (with the exception of Dr. Will who guest-hosted and didn't play last season).
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Saturday, January 25, 2025 - 8:42 am
Carolyn has a kind soul and I adore her
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-26-2000
| Saturday, January 25, 2025 - 9:45 pm
I suspect Carolyn could win.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Sunday, January 26, 2025 - 3:46 am
So, do I.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Friday, January 31, 2025 - 10:37 am
I have just caught up with the show. We had a UK version of Traitors here, so I thought I wasn't going to watch the US one, but then I realised BBC iPlayer are releasing your episodes Fridays, after you see them (I think) Thursday night.
This season is so interesting, with the out of control Traitors!!! Bob the Drag Queen wouldn't have lasted much longer with or without Rob, imo, he was getting a bit careless (ironic though they overheard Danielle in the book room, as it was Bob who was so loud). That whole book room stunt was so foolish, I don't know how they thought they would get away with all being in there, talking at reasonably audible voices, for so long. If they'd been more on the same page it would have been easier.
Rob is spectacularly good at controlling the round table, but I think at some point soon they will have to get him out, because the odds he is the traitor will become much higher once he gets rid of the big players.
I'm not sure who the traitors should get out next. Derrick would probably be Rob's choice, but it would put the spotlight on Rob a lot. But I think the next day, Rob should back Carolyn in getting Danielle out at the round table. She has a lot of sketchy behaviour they could point to, and it would calm Carolyn a bit, so she might be easier for him to work with.
I'm quite surprised how bad Danielle has been as a traitor, right from the start. The clearly fake crying, bringing attention on herself, choosing to target Carolyn, who everyone ignores and wouldn't be persuaded about.
I know I'm not meant to back the traitors, but I would like Rob to win  .
(Btw, anyone who has access to the UK show, this season was a little bit below par until the last three episodes, when it was down to the last few players, and with the new rules (same as with the US show, when they are down to a few players they no longer reveal whether they are traitor or faithful when they leave) it got pretty exciting. Still my least favourite UK season but very watchable.)
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Friday, January 31, 2025 - 11:09 am
I think Rob has no choice but to target Derrick. Derrick is going to continue to go hard against Rob, and Rob will just have to hope that the narrative that the traitors are trying to frame Rob will stick. Honestly, he played a little too hard at the start, so he's having to pay for that now.
And Wes! This is not the Challenge! He saved Rob by being a jerk and threatening everyone. How did he think that would work?
I agree that Rob and Carolyn need to target Danielle. And that the traitors this year are a mess, but Rob kind of started that by targeting Bob. In hindsight, Rob would have been better off agreeing with Bob and throwing the suspicion on Wes or Derrick.
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Just_gail
Member
08-25-2007
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 12:09 am
This episode was crazy! I like it. I love Rob, but I'm rooting for Derrick. Didn't Alan say the next murder will be done face to face? Sounds like fun.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 4:29 am
I do love how they have new challenges this year. Being as both UK and US have the same challenges since they are filmed back to back at the same location, I didn't like how the challenges were predictable.
One thing I would love for production to switch up in the future is when they enter breakfast in the a.m., the last group should NOT consist of the three-four people who were up for being murdered. Whoever was up for being murdered but wasn't should enter randomly in the a.m. like everyone else.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 7:36 am
Lexie, I know!!! They have had about eight seasons of UK speaking Traitors, and surely most of these contestants have seen them all... some of them must know the last group are the ones up for murder to make it tense for the viewers! The only thing I could think of was they must have thought the contestants would assume they'd have changed it... which they finally did last time as they put Danielle in the final group.
But yep, I'm sure some contestants took note.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 9:36 am
I just had a thought.
I'm wondering if Bob-tdq and Danielle had made a secret pack to get rid of Rob (and later Caroline, or screw her over at the end) and they would share the winnings?
Rob said that Bob-tdq threw suspension on him twice, so he needed to go. Why would Bob-tdq do that, unless he wanted to get rid of Rob?
After Bob left, Danielle said Rob got rid of her "ride and die". Aha! A confession.
Also, after he left, that's when her game started to fall apart with her obsession of getting revenge on Rob. And people started to say her name. And her desperation made her make the bad game move of trying to get rid of Caroline in such a poor way. She should have bided her time. But she let her emotions get in the way.
I believe those 2 had a secret pact.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 9:49 am
Grooch, they may have, and that makes sense.
all Rob has pointed to was that comment by Bob-tdq saying that one of the three must be a traitor. I admit it seemed like a weak accusation, so it did make me wonder why it upset Rob so much.
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 9:50 am
She should have made a pact with Carolyn to get rid of Rob. She discounted Carolyn as many do and it is backfiring on her. Carolyn is well liked by the others
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 10:00 am
I think Bob tdq couldn't help himself in suggesting Rob for the ego/attention factor. I think Rob couldn't help himself suggesting Bob tdq for the ego/competition factor. They are both too BIG characters to get along, even when they had good reason to.
Re Danielle's attack on Carolyn, it seemed to come out of nowhere and didn't make sense. And yes, I agree, she discounted Carolyn and didn't even try working with her, even though she should have known Carolyn didn't trust Rob, and probably would have worked with her.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 10:36 am
Kar, I went back to my old posts above to see if there was anything in them to make me think that Bob-tdq did two things to Rob. There were 2 things, but only 1 against Rob.
From my post above:
So, here's an extra tidbit. Rob and Parvotti were on Watch What Happens Live last night being the bartenders. Andy asked Rob a few quick questions.
He asked Rob why he targeted Bob. Rob said that last week Bob was really pushing for Caroline to be in the casket. Rob said that really raised the red flags for him and he didn't trust him.And this week, he said about how Bob put a target on his back
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 10:44 am
Kar posted:
"I think Rob has no choice but to target Derrick. Derrick is going to continue to go hard against Rob, and Rob will just have to hope that the narrative that the traitors are trying to frame Rob will stick. Honestly, he played a little too hard at the start, so he's having to pay for that now."
What if... if... somehow the traitors get Danielle ousted at the round table and the traitors have to choose a new traitor and they pick Derrick and he agrees! And this saves Rob.
It'd take a lot of production interference, but we all know they do that anyway.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 10:46 am
Such fun episodes. These traitors are a hot mess! Danielle has played a very flawed game, discounting Carolyn. I'm really surprised more aren't on to her.
And Wes, threatening the people voting. Bad move. I'm sorry to see him go. Wish he would have teamed up with Rob. I too would be happy with a Rob win. I think he likely does need to vote out Derek and then play the "traitors are framing me" card.
I would love to know more about what the "rules" are about outing another traitor. Seems they are just guidelines are merely a "promise". I think when you are voted out you are not permitted to call any traitor out. But at the round table it seems like it's fair game.
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 11:15 am
If I played this game and really thought someone was a traitor I wouldnt I would befriend them and make them think I was working with them so they wouldnt target me. Then at the end of the game I would out them and get all the money LOL
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Saturday, February 01, 2025 - 11:43 am
That's what I always thought.
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