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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, December 17, 2022 - 10:23 am 
Karuuna, I'm so, so sorry about your friend. My nephew (my parents raised him after his mother died, so he's more like a little brother to me -- we're very close) tried a couple of times several years ago. His mother took her life when he was 5, and he was the same age (24) as she had been, so in his twisted mind he thought it was "time." Thankfully he wasn't successful.
He has a wife who watches his meds (and him) very carefully. He plays viola in the local college orchestra. His life is very full. He's been stable for years now.
But you're right. You just never know. I feel so bad for Allison and the babies, especially right before Christmas. Such a tragedy.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Saturday, December 17, 2022 - 10:48 am
So sorry Karuuna. It's such a mysterious illness, and terrifying that people can be doing well and then take a deadly dive without asking for help. I feel so badly for Twitch's wife and kids.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, December 17, 2022 - 11:03 am
Thank you, BabyJax and Brenda. It really was a shock. And there's the inevitable "should I have done more" thoughts running thru my head. And he was a friend, not a spouse.
I can't imagine what tWitch's family is going thru. Nothing is so bad that it's worth hurting them that way. I understand that thinking becomes distorted, but it's important to keep telling people that you aren't ending the pain, you are just giving it to someone else. 
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, December 18, 2022 - 11:13 am
I was just reading an article online yesterday addressing all the people who say, "Why didn't he get help?" Or "He had so many resources available." Or worst of all, "It's so selfish."
Suicide is a selfish act, but the person who's that lost and depressed isn't able to think of others. They're in so much pain, they just want it to go away and wrongly believe the voices in their head that their loved ones would be "better off" without them. The article was also saying that mental illness actually changes brain chemistry. People suffering from depression and anxiety aren't able to think logically.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/16/opinions/twitch-suicide-be-kind-robbins/index.html
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, December 18, 2022 - 11:17 am
I get it, Babyjax... I really do. And I get that it's out of pain and not logic and the pain feels unbearable, unending, and unfixable.
Still, the time to remind people of the very real aftermath is when they aren't in that space, so hopefully they can hang onto it when their demons are screaming at them.
This is why we try making suicide pacts with people suffering from any form of depression. "Promise you'll call me if you get in that space." It usually works. Not always, sadly.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, December 18, 2022 - 11:26 am
I know you get it, Karuuna, as do I. We've both been through it. I just thought it was interesting about the changes to the brain. I'd never heard that before.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, December 18, 2022 - 11:34 am
Yes, that's sadly true. It's also true with long term alcoholism (not related to tWitch), which many people don't know. Not only the chemistry, but also the physiological makeup of the brain, specifically the prefrontal cortex, making it impossible for people to predict the outcome of their actions.
It's just so heartbreaking looking from the outside. I'm sure it looked very different to him.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, December 22, 2022 - 12:43 pm
Oh, I think I knew about the alcohol thing, too, Karuuna. I've known a lot of people with alcohol and substance abuse issues. Alcohol especially seems to cause damage to the brain. It's so sad when people are addicted. Most of them want to stop, they just can't.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, March 19, 2023 - 12:42 pm
I was super sad about Twitch, as he was such a light from the first time I saw him dance.
Suicide.. various reasons, definitely actual brain involvment and despair, inner voices.. Robin Williams with Lewy Body, Naomi Judd and recently Kyle Jacobs (Kellie Pickler's husband). All losses..
Suicide pacts do help, I think, but sometimes those inner voices just push all planning aside.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Monday, March 20, 2023 - 11:10 am
Sea, I was so sad to hear about Kelly Pickler's husband, too. Just so sad.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, March 20, 2023 - 3:37 pm
Yes, I just loved both of them on their reality show, I Love Kellie Pickler, and he was a very accomplished songwriter and musician and very likeable.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Tuesday, December 05, 2023 - 4:24 pm
SYTYCD Season 18
“Reuniting Cat, Nigel, Allison and Comfort and, welcoming Maksim into the SYTYCD family, is sure to make Season 18 bigger than ever for their legions of fans around the globe.”
Good group…
https://people.com/allison-holker-boss-maks-chmerkovskiy-join-season-18-sytycd-as-judges-8411221
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Tuesday, December 05, 2023 - 6:55 pm
so excited! Love the judges! I wonder whatever happened to Mary
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Tuesday, December 05, 2023 - 9:00 pm
I don’t mind Mary being gone. These new judges will be refreshing. I think Maks will be tough and I like that Allison is there.
The article also indicates that the format will be much different than in the past too.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Tuesday, December 05, 2023 - 9:50 pm
I'll give the show another try (it's been years!) if Maks is now on it.
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Wednesday, December 06, 2023 - 10:00 am
I dont mind Mary being gone just curious what she is up to
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, December 06, 2023 - 7:23 pm
I haven't watched in years, either. Love the judges, though I also loved Mary too. Comfort, ehhh..
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Thursday, December 07, 2023 - 9:14 pm
I have watched every season. I'll miss Mary, but I'm happy to have Maks! Very glad Cat is back, she is my favorite host.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, December 08, 2023 - 3:24 pm
Yes, she is a very likeable host.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, December 30, 2023 - 6:51 pm
This in interesting since Nigel is not just a producer but on the panel of this show..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/paula-abdul-accuses-american-idol-exec-producer-nigel-lythgoe-of-sexual-assault-harassment/ar-AA1mfQZ6
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, December 31, 2023 - 9:29 am
SYTYCD is coming back?! We love this show! I've said so many times how much I've missed it. Looking forward to it. Thanks for the good news!!!
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Sunday, December 31, 2023 - 2:25 pm
sooo excited! I love Cat and am looking forward to the judges!
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Sunday, December 31, 2023 - 3:20 pm
Didn’t Matthew Morrison get booted as a judge on this show due to ‘allegations’? So, Nigel should be booted as a judge.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, December 31, 2023 - 6:10 pm
I had to look up Matthew Morrison.. According to this he was fired over actual text messages.. so there was concrete evidence. I haven't watched this show for some time, will give it a try, I guess.
Nigel may have to be proven guilty, and the timing has to do with statute of limitations, but the timing for SYTYCD is also not the best.
Paula is also alleging pay differences and bad treatment on American Idol.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Friday, January 05, 2024 - 11:16 pm
Nigel Lythgoe is out as a judge on SYTYCD.
https://people.com/nigel-lythgoe-will-no-longer-serve-as-sytycd-judge-after-sexual-assault-allegations-8423124
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Saturday, January 06, 2024 - 8:29 am
I have heard rumors about him for years. I expect more girls to come forward
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Saturday, January 06, 2024 - 10:39 am
He always seemed a bit creepy to me on the show.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, January 06, 2024 - 10:52 am
A couple more came forward from another show.
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