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Kitt
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09-06-2000

Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 12:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Ooo BOTS are talking about whether they should do a Vote to Evict or Vote to Save... at least they are thinking about it.

Kellee
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07-07-2004

Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellee a private message Print Post    
they also talk about live feed so who knows. I personally would have rather seen the live feeds after Natalie was evicted than Kirk. That seemed to rock the foundation more.

I am hoping it is the American's out at the next just because the twins have been stirring up such negativity and seem sooooo high on themselves. As for Michael I think he has gone off the deep end one too many times plus I see him more in the wrong in the Denise Michael thing. i think she thinks it is part of her job to get him out of his shell, and in the initial part it was working so she kept at it but he seems to need too much space, the big brother experience is not designed for that..

Plus I keep cringing every time they say he is a big family man etc can not help but think of the bench warrant.. Amazingly enough they bring up every little thing every other celeb has done except that?

Did it seem in the last BOTS they were pushing Gareth a bit? i think he is a sweet man on an emotional journey but i do not think he will win.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I didn't notice them pushing Gareth on BOTS, but they did finally show one of his tasks. He seems so sweet, but if we hardly see him people aren't going to vote for him.

I'd like:
Twins out first on Wednesday
Michael out second on Wednesday

On Friday:
Denise 5th
Romeo 4th
Nicola 3rd
Frankie 2nd
Gareth 1st

But I'd be happy with Frankie 1st and Gareth 2nd, or any of Denise-Romeo-Nicola switching round. The only thing I really really want is the Twins out on Wednesday.

Kellee
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07-07-2004

Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellee a private message Print Post    
oh I got nothing against Gareth and would like to see him place high, just when they went out and talked to the crowd with people holding signs she asked three of them why Gareth and i think one other. I would love to see more of him I think he has such an interesting story to tell.

As long as Michael and the twins are out on Wednesday let the chips fall where they may!

i have to admit I find it a bit funny a walker from last series has had massive air time, but we have yet to see the runner up Jay?

Kellee
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07-07-2004

Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellee a private message Print Post    
Tonight's was hilarious the whole entire chat show thing. Gareth was so funny! loved it

The twins still don't know it is a vote to win and plot plot plot to go

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Monday, January 23, 2012 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
I agree, Kellee - that chat show bit was hilarious. I was cracking up through most of it!

I think at this point, Nicola and Denise are the favorites to go on Wednesday. I haven't checked the bookie sites, but last I heard, the twins and Michael are safe.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, January 23, 2012 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Seems like there was a big argument between Denise and Nicola last night. I'm a day behind still/again!

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Monday, January 23, 2012 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
Nicola and Denise argued because Denise pulled Karissa's pj bottoms down (there was drinking by all) and Nicola was very upset by it - Denise then shouted at Nicola something about shredding their letters from home... typical BB booze-fueled fighting.

News from the house today indicates they have made up so all is better.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Monday, January 23, 2012 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
as usual, lots of false targetting of denise and exaggerated facts been seen in various BB chats.

I've seen the pics of the socalled pantsing. Denise is sitting in a chair behind K and as the twins are dancing around Denise pulls bum area down a bit. Denise is BEHIND K. there is no porn shot, there is no " denise ripping K's pants DOWN" .

I've heard the various segments when Denise is pretty loaded. She wasnt during the Nicola fight but So many posters/ chat areas are claiming "OH denise is so drunk she's picking fights"

I dont like those twins and the constant bashing of Denise is starting to brainwash the viewers obviously. it always has been amazing to me how viewers will start to believe anything IF its said enough times online.

in the immortal words of Evel Dick, Perception is Everything

however, the pics i saw MIGHT be selective. maybe denise DID fully pull them down to ankles... then we'll see on daily show

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Monday, January 23, 2012 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
WOW, Denise gets crazier and crazier. I read about the pulling off of the pjs and was shocked that they let her stay in the house. If a man had done that, would he have been removed? I was afraid for her when she had the melt down after Natalie left, but pulling another woman's clothes off is really crossing a line.

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Monday, January 23, 2012 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
Well, I thought it was a great episode and very enjoyable BOTS. Which I don't say lightly... BOTS is usually kinda boring to me.

The twins are typical American 20-somethings... conceited, self-serving, entitled. But they do know how reality tv works. They grabbed the moment and threatened to sue. Like many Americans do - disgusting, yes. Illegal, immoral? Nah.

I find Denise creepy. I've been drunk and singing and dancing and it would never cross my mind to pull the pants down on anyone. But according to Denise's friend on BOTS - that's just having a British good time. Showing her boobs, pulling someone's pants down.... that's Denise. I can accept that. I can accept the twins the way they are. I can even accept Nicola - at the top of the stairs, crying to go home, in her leopard print nightie. Priceless. The whole thing is hysterical and beautiful and fun.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, January 23, 2012 - 8:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
When I'm having a British good time with all my British friends I've never once flashed my boobs at them or tried to pull their pants down. I did once attempt to put my hands up a guy's shirt, but that's another story ;)

I kind of think Denise's "normal" is only normal if you're like a completely falling over drunk cougar at a party even when you're not drunk.

Will have to wait until tomorrow to watch the show, but will make a point to watch BOTS, thanks for the tip!

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Monday, January 23, 2012 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
To me it was odd that during BOTS they seemed to see nothing wrong with someone pulling another persons pants down. I can't even imagine anyone doing that in real life. The twins were vilified for objecting. They did go over the top with the lawsuit bit and wanting to leave, but I don't know what my reaction would be if anyone pulled another's pants down. The whole idea is foreign to me. If anyone had done that to me, even in my younger years, I would have called the police. Flashing boobs would also be foreign to me.

I know on previous BBs the women do go topless and just cover the nips, but even with the younger women, it just seems an odd way to get attention. Maybe I just hang out with the wrong people, but no matter how drunk I've never seen anyone do that.

I think for the UK audience, they are bringing the history of each person into account. I've never heard of most of them so the only opinion I have is what I've seen on the show. Nicola doesn't seem as bad to me as most of the audience and DS seems to think. Denise seems to have a fan base that protects her from being seen as the nightmare she is. Frankie also must have been some sort of star because his behavior is horrible and he is dumber than rocks, but the audience seems to forgive him everything and like him.

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
I would like to hear Kitt's "other" story

And I agree with you Mama - I don't know most of the HMs ahead of the show either so I take each one at face value. That goes for the British and the American ones alike!

The only thing I didn't like on BOTS was Pete Burns - implying that the twins would have taken their bras off if they could make $30K (I think they have made it pretty clear they posed for Playboy once and that has NOT been their career)-
and going on a rant about not ever letting Americans into the BBUK house again. Just because he can't stand Tracey Bingham.... LOL

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
My other story isn't that interesting, honest, I didn't get anywhere!

Denise Walsh was a big character in Coronation Street for years (big evening soap plays three times a week - one of the highest ratest shows in the UK), and the character she played is a lot like herself. And she's been in smaller roles off and on since she left there, and then this Loose Women (like The View) for the last 10 years. I think viewers are just used to her character, and what we're seeing is just an exaggeration of what we used to. If you liked her before, you're probably going to like her now.

Similar thing with Natalie, we saw her on tv three nights a week, growing from a child of 10 to an adult. People are going to give her a lot of slack because, you know, she's Sonia to us. We already feel protective of her.

Frankie on the other hand was not well liked before he went into the house. I think I might have said before, but he was on this year's X-Factor (ended November ish) and was unknown before that. He got to the live rounds, but over the next few weeks he was all over the papers for partying, which all went wrong about three weeks later when someone from the crew heard him talk about taking drugs with some women. So he was expelled from X-Factor, but the bad press (more partying, drugs) followed him and he had a lot of backlash about wasting an opportunity that others would have longed to have. Then comes BB... so I don't think he had many fans when he started, although I always found him strangely likeable. I think with Frankie you see someone genuine. You can tell he reacts in the show as he would in real life, and the British public really like that, more than anything I think (except for maybe being cute). You can see the same thing with a lot of fans of the twins, those who like them are saying they just are focused on their career and making money and doing their thing. They're not making a judgement call on what they're doing, they're saying that at least they're straightforward about it.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Whoa, what a show (yesterday's)!

I think Denise was wrong to pull Karissa's pants down. I think Karissa, while understandably being a bit shocked and embarrassed, used the situation for airtime, possible (she thought) sympathy time, and made it all get out of control. And I think Nicola just showed her true colours and came out by far the worst in all this.

If it was a vote to evict I'm sure Nicola and the twins would be out. With a vote to win I don't know, I still think Romeo could go because people aren't "saving" him. And maybe Michael now the spotlight is off him.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Schedule for last few days:

Wed 25 1-2pm CBB: Eviction
Wed 25 2-2.30pm CBB: Live Feed
half hour gap
Wed 25 3-3.30pm CBB: Next Eviction
Wed 25 3.30-4.30pm BOTS

Thu 26 1-2pm CBB
Thu 26 2-3pm BOTS

Fri 27 1-2.30pm CBB: Live Final
Fri 27 2.30-3.35pm BOTS

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 8:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
omg she didnt pull them OFF and she didnt pull them DOWN. sorry but halfway down butt is NOT pantsing. that is down to ankles and is considered hilarious in a drunken party setting. Even BBUSA has had pantsing and NO ONE complained, not one person. NOt in the house NOR in any of our Threads in any of the sites i read.

So anyone claiming to be upset has no credibility to me.

I think they have made it pretty clear they posed for Playboy once and that has NOT been their career

being partially nude IS their career. For petes sake , it was about the potential loss of money imho. LOL

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
This is the same argument that is used when hookers are raped. They make their money selling sex so they are fair game. If the twins really make their money by being partially nude, then someone stole a commodity from them. It just so happens that they don't make their money being nude. I think they likely were given a whole lot more respect when they lived in the Playboy Mansion than they received in the BB UK house. I don't think the men who visited the mansion would have been allowed to talk to them the way Frankie and Kirk did. I know if anyone, man or woman, had pulled their pants down, the person would have been escorted out immediately.

To me, it is incredulous that anyone, under any circumstances thinks it's OK to pull the pants down on another person - unless it's a parent diapering a baby. If anyone had ever done that to me, my instinct would have been to hit them.

I think Denise is a pathetic woman who wants to hang out with the cool kids but is way too out of their league to pull it off. She has been involved in all of the drama in the house and when it all hits the fan, she cries and tells the world that she is a good person. She might be a good person, but she sure hasn't shown it on this show.

Kellee
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07-07-2004

Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 11:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellee a private message Print Post    
i haven't gotten to watch the episode but from the picture it seems Denise was sitting and the twin had her ass right at face level to her. I have to admit if it had been a friend of mine and we were on the drink i might have done similar. Okay sometimes I think Denise forgets about the cameras and just goes on her merry way. As for the comments from Frankie he is a 19 year old boy, he is not well educated, his background iss more rough and I agree he should not make comments but cmon he is a kid.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 12:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
So he gets a pass on his inappropriate comments because he is three years younger than the twins? By nineteen, he should be able to control himself just a little. I do understand that women mature earlier than men, but he's nineteen and old enough to learn to at least pretend to respect women. Kirk was much worse and may have influenced Frankie, but I have no use for either of them.

Kellee
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07-07-2004

Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 4:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellee a private message Print Post    
The twins have lived a very savvy life, they were living in the Playboy mansion before they Frankie's age. He just turned 19 in the house. He is 24/7 with these girls and really has not shown himself to be mature by previous actions. I don't think the twins are respectful in a lot of their actions either (bitching manipulating ect.) just that is different from being a stupid kid.

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
I can't even get the slightest feel for who will be evicted tonight! BB life was so much easier with vote to evict :-)

Online, all you can tell is that there's huge support for Michael and the Twins (team America LOL)and huge support AGAINST them, also - not really pinpointing anyone specific.

Hope someone can spoil - I won't be able to watch until live feed - and I'll probably miss some of that, too. Can't believe it's almost over! Summer is so far away!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Same here, Sarasmile... vote to evict and I'd be sure two of the Twins, Nicola, Denise or Michael would be out, but with vote to win I think Romeo might go because he's made so little impact. I think Gareth and Frankie are safe. The bookies have Nicola and the twins at the bottom (but then last week they had Natalie as second favourite, and we know what happened there).

I also would love someone to spoil this afternoon, I am working.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Since I can't walk and chew gum at the same time, I have trouble watching and typing, but I will come on after the show and let you know who's out.