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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 2:33 pm 
And.... Shadow Bears!!!
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 2:58 pm
"I'm leaning towards SFJF's theory that the "shadow" is a misdirection."
I should explain my thoughts a little more clearly. When I say it's a misdirection, I mean that they want us to think the shadow thing killed her. However, I also think the shadow thing in the boy's picture represents some kind of mysterious "presence" of someone or something in connection with the disappearance of the plane.
I don't mean to imply that I think the kid's shadow drawing is meaningless, just that it may not be connected to the death or the other shadows we've seen.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 3:05 pm
Yup, I'm with you there, SFJF. Agree on all points. There is a Shadow thing, but I don't think that's what killed the woman.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 3:24 pm
Maybe the shadow thing influences people who carry out actions.. like shooting that woman in the head.
Maybe a good shadow influences the ones who are hearing messages or sounds and are compelled to search out something wrong, or witness the plane imploding.
It seems that some force doesn't want the truth to come out, so the woman who spoke out is eliminated, the plane/evidence is eliminated.
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Carlpsmom
Member
01-03-2004
| Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 9:42 pm
Seamonkey, that is kind of what I was trying to say. That there are some sort of guides.
This could be interesting if they can keep it up!
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Spunky
Member
10-07-2001
| Tuesday, October 09, 2018 - 7:32 am
Is this going a bit sideways and the mysterious shadow gone, which was the real kicker for me, but they're now suspecting that something was done to their brain to lose some memory, well the 5 years, made me think they were all kidnapped for some crazy experiment but it doesn't explain why they didn't get older. Mmmmm
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, October 09, 2018 - 7:46 am
Yes the last episode didn't show the shadow at all (or if it did, I don't remember seeing it). Very interesting mystery so far. I like all the characters.
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Iluvreality
Member
05-08-2011
| Tuesday, October 09, 2018 - 8:14 am
No shadowy figure last night and the maid killed the woman. Guess she and the husband had started a relationship and when the lady came back, she killed her. Now the thing about the brain, were they put into some kind of “frozen state” ot what. And the NSA people have the body of the lady who was shot.....hmmmm. I can see this being another Lost, where they were all already dead, just hope they tie up the loose ends before the network decides to cancel..
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Tuesday, October 09, 2018 - 8:32 am
never watched lost, but did not notice a shadow and I was looking last night.
so far, this police woman solved how many crimes - girls kidnapping, , her brother solved a store robbery, although the son was pretty much obvious from the git go. and now finding the missing woman and catching the murderer. Completely by accident.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, October 09, 2018 - 8:36 am
It does seem inconsistent. Hopefully they can bring it all together.
More religious ranting this episode though, from the guy in jail.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, October 09, 2018 - 6:31 pm
That "religious ranting" seemed more cult-like to me than religion.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, October 09, 2018 - 8:51 pm
In the flashbacks at the beginning, there was a dark shadow but it could have been the shadow of a human, from last week's shooting. Still watching the new episode.
The shadow in the drawings light grey and rounded..
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, October 09, 2018 - 9:22 pm
Hmm, This is getting weird..
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 1:54 pm
The scientist woman was talking about something in her and the murdered woman's blood that increases to a much higher level at the moment of death.
It sounds like a strong possibility that the people on that plane were dying or had just died (sudden loss of air pressure?) and were snatched (plane and all) from the present and resuscitated and then returned to the present. Maybe they were gone a day or a week (to them) and then the plane and passengers (now armed with knowledge of things to come, plus a voice to guide them) were sent back to the moment they vanished. Could be a mission to change their past.
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I KNOW I have seen a show with this exact (or VERY similar) plot before. Future people would come back in time and grab people at the moment of their deaths and transport them to the future. The disappearances of those particular individuals wouldn't affect the timeline because they were going to vanish anyhow. I can't remember what show that was that I'm thinking of. It could have been an X-Files episode or maybe it was a movie??
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Anyhow, if this is what happened on Manifest, it would explain the voices, how the passengers seem to know things that haven't happened yet, and why they don't seem to have aged at all.
I am happy to learn that the woman was murdered by a human maid instead of a shadow monster. I think the boy's shadow drawing means something, but editing it to imply that a shadow thing murdered that woman was just a distraction.
It could be that someone in the future is trying to fix something in their past (our present) via "the voices", but some people here in the present are trying to stop that from happening. Of course, that theme was a plot point of the canceled "The Crossing" series.
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 3:10 pm
OK a few picky things with that analysis, the people don't know what is happening in the future, they have insight to what is happening around them now.
I don't think they gave us enough to understand with the recent shadows. we are in the 3rd show and they were only featured in the second one. was there any appearance in the first one? crap now I have something to watch instead of the hurricane.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 3:34 pm
There is also a Christian religious seeming theme about atoning for past wrongs.. The female cop for drinking her very drunk friend while less drunk and the passenger dying. Then she saves the mother who seems to have amnesia or Alzheimer's, while at the same time catching the thief/murderer.
The "feds" are always the bad guys in these shows.
I liked that the ex fiance tore up the card from the fed guy who tried to threaten him if he didn't spy on his ex and report back.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 6:20 pm
"OK a few picky things with that analysis, the people don't know what is happening in the future, they have insight to what is happening around them now."
Well, I see what you mean, but when the voices told the cop and her brother to "release them" in ep 1, no one else in the present knew those girls were tied up in that shed in the junkyard. When the voice or visions told all the passengers to go to the airport, they were directed there just in time to see it explode before anyone else knew it was going to happen.
I guess it could be interpreted either way. People in the future would know this stuff and and could have given the info to the passengers. Or something else in the present knows this stuff and shares it with the passengers before anyone else knows about it. Still feels like the messages are coming from something or someone who knows what's going on before the rest of the world. It fits my theory anyhow. If it turns out to be a religious thing, I guess logic would be pointless for figuring out what's happening on this show. JMO
The religious angle....I was thinking that some folks decided the plane's return was a miracle and they created a cult with rhetoric to explain it. On the new series "The Purge", a group of people created a cult where they sacrifice themselves to be murdered on "purge night". I think the theme of unexplained phenomena being explained with religion is fairly common in some sci-fi shows like this. Come to think of it, that also happened on "The Omega Man", a film from 70s...and IIRC, a religion or cult sprang up around the mystery of all the people who returned on the series "The 4400". Oh yeah...I almost forgot the old movie "The Gods Must be Crazy"...where a coke bottle is found in Africa and a village builds a religion around it.
It even occurred to me that the religious nut in the jail might not be a regular person, but a guy was also brought here from somewhere like the passengers were. But right now I just think he's in a cult, and I think the same about the lady on the street that was raving about the boy.
In any case, if it's about time travel fixing the past, that would also explain the weird coincidences, like the cop looking for the old lady with dementia and finding the murderer at the same time. Something that was said or done by the passengers after they got back may have resulted in a confluence of events that made that amazing coincidence happen. That part reminded my of the "Final Destination" films. Some kids somehow cheat death and then the weirdest coincidences start to happen causing each one to die in bizarre ways.
I dunno. The thing about the scientist woman and the dead woman sharing something unique in their blood that should only be there at the moment of death is what set me off on this whole theory. That and the movie it made me think of but I still can't identify that had a very similar theme...
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 6:34 pm
The mysterious thing is also in the blood of the young boy being treated for cancer.
And in the previews they mention that there was a stowaway on the flight.. So that could be from the future and/or the religious but in jail....
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 7:03 pm
And OWN YOUR TRUTH.. On the refrig.
OWN MY TRUTH in the interview of the woman who was murdered and said to their illegal employee, who she promised to get her husband's practice of exploiting illegals.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 7:09 pm
She had a calling.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 7:40 pm
The guy in the mail says the ones on the plane ✈ are the chosen ones.
When he does he will be return and be pure.
Ahh, Michaela was actually looking for her late friend's wandering mother when she found the killer...
(I am re-watching..)
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, October 23, 2018 - 4:40 pm
Still love this show. I felt so bad for Michaela when she went to see her friend, then told her dad she felt Lourdes was living her (Michaela's) life. Been there. Also felt sorry for Danny, who's been taking care of Ben's family for the past 3 years, but now all of a sudden, he's out. Sad situation all the way around.
And what was that bright light the little boy saw from the plane? Has to be aliens. A government project couldn't have stopped them aging, unless it's waaaaay out there.
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Carlpsmom
Member
01-03-2004
| Tuesday, October 23, 2018 - 6:18 pm
Babyjaxmom, that light made me think of The Langoliers.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, October 24, 2018 - 7:16 am
I think the writers made a good decision when they decided to have five years pass. It's the perfect length of time to create drama. Enough time for people to have genuinely moved on in a respectful way but short enough for everyone to still have extremely strong emotional connections to the people who were gone.
It's an interesting show and I'm curious to see where they take it.
(I'm so glad that it seems they aren't going down the standard old super-power route.)
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Iluvreality
Member
05-08-2011
| Wednesday, October 24, 2018 - 7:54 am
I think it all has to do with the little boy. We all know he is or was sick. Maybe he was in a coma and dreamed all this. Maybe he passed and this is an alternate universe type thing. All of it is beginning to look so much like Lost.
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