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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2016 - 6:55 pm 
Olivia is painful to watch at this point. What keeps me watching is I still find the other characters entertaining. But this last show that almost totally focussed on Olivia was too much. How many times can they go round and round.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, April 23, 2016 - 12:45 am
This was the most boring episode of the series to date.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, April 23, 2016 - 6:29 am
I agree. It was like they wanted to give the cast a one week vacation. Sorry to sound harsh but I've found this show to be fun in the past (in a warped way) so I hope they get back to showing more of the other characters.
Any speculation on who will become President? 
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Saturday, May 14, 2016 - 8:47 am
So I'm watching Frankie & Grace and who do I see?!!! Papa Pope! LOL And he was playing a 'nice guy' role! LOL It was totally weird, I was waiting for him to get mean. lol
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Saturday, May 14, 2016 - 2:38 pm
I want them to get back to being the good guys and get rid of papa
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, May 14, 2016 - 8:33 pm
At the end of this episode, Papa Pope watched the news and thought about all the arguments and the verbal fights he had with his daughter and he looked angry....until he said "That's my girl". That's when it suddenly dawned on me that Olivia did NOT win at all. I think Papa Pope orchestrated the entire thing! Olivia taking Jake away from Papa Pope and thinking she won by confronting him head on and "becoming Command" was exactly what her father wanted her to do!
All the talk about him "being up to something" with his plans to make Jake the next VP was wrong. What he was really "up to" was a much longer game...to manipulate Olivia over the past several seasons into reaching a point where she would wind up doing exactly what Rowan wanted her to do all along...."become Command" without realizing it she was manipulated into it. He made her think it was her idea.
Maybe next season it will be about her realizing that she has indeed become her father's daughter.
Or maybe this is just my own wishful thinking. I must admit, this is an awful lot of speculative subtext to garner from Rowan simply saying "that's my girl". 
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Saggkl
Member
07-16-2002
| Saturday, May 14, 2016 - 11:34 pm
LOL Sanfran. But it sounds pretty good.
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 8:02 am
I thought Olivia realized the same thing in all of the flashbacks.
As she walked out of the room with Jake she was walking quickly and with confidence. As the flashbacks continued, she seemed to slow down and falter.
I want the gladiators back!
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, January 27, 2017 - 11:14 am
Is no one watching?
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Smokey
Member
07-07-2003
| Friday, January 27, 2017 - 12:46 pm
Me me me! I still enjoy this. It's so far fetched in many ways, but I don't mind. Cylus, Silas (not certain on spelling) is so evil.
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Smokey
Member
07-07-2003
| Friday, January 27, 2017 - 12:47 pm
Cyrus? LOL My brain isn't working.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, January 27, 2017 - 1:47 pm
Cyrus? I have it dvr'd and yes it is farfetched but I enjoy it as well
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Saggkl
Member
07-16-2002
| Friday, January 27, 2017 - 5:42 pm
Me to.
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Friday, January 27, 2017 - 5:49 pm
I totally believe Cyrus had him killed.
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Smokey
Member
07-07-2003
| Friday, January 27, 2017 - 11:30 pm
I do too, Texannie.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Friday, February 10, 2017 - 6:37 am
Fell asleep last night but I look forward to watching the latest episode. Looks like Cyrus i s having in "bigly trouble".
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, February 10, 2017 - 11:48 am
I actually felt a tiny bit sorry for Cyrus in this last episode and that isn't easy. Of course, every single character in this series is so awful, I tend to rank them by who annoys me the least, with Olivia being the most annoying. I enjoy the show despite how ridiculous the plot is (California a swing state?) though I always feel like I should take a shower after watching it.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 6:15 am
Ok, I haven't had much to say in a while but wow...last nights episode!!!
Lets start with Cyrus....how clever and crude was he with manipulating the guard as well as the serial killer!! If it was not Tom who murdered Frankie, then who?!!
I was surprised the President was in bed with the FBI woman but at the same time not; he definitely has a 'type' he likes doesn't he?!!
Who is the woman Huck is interested in? I don't remember her.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-16-2004
| Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 11:52 am
Olivia's father and Jake have been mysteriously absent lately - I bet they had something to do with Frankie's murder
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 12:30 pm
Yes, it usually comes down to Daddy Pope and his personal assassin/soldier, Jake....who, btw, was the killer who actually murdered James Novak, Cyrus's first husband.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 7:53 am
Oh yes, you are right, we haven't seen daddy Pope and Jake!
So am I supposed to remember the woman Huck is courting?
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-16-2004
| Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 8:09 am
I think she knew the woman that was killed in the cabin? the one that left that voicemail saying that Cyrus killed Frankie?
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 9:25 am
Ok, thanks TVwatcher. I don't know, something doesn't sit right with me with her.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - 5:12 pm
Cyrus sure had a rough time that episode. As I said before, he's done some awful things but then they have all done awful things. I'm glad it turned out that he didn't order Larsen to kill Vargas. I wonder how he'll react when he gets out. Will he be vindictive or move on?
One of the many less realistic aspects of this show is the characters' willingness to forgive and move on when other characters have seriously harmed them.
So who killed Vargas? Olivia's father and Jake seem the obvious suspects but I wonder about Abby's involvement? She was the only one to want to give Cyrus a chance.
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Starr
Member
07-09-2005
| Friday, March 17, 2017 - 8:34 pm
I just caught up on the show today. Really different to see Papa Pope answer to someone else! I thought it was a bad move, obviously, to take out the woman from his past. You'd think he would've realized long ago that he *does* have a weakness - Olivia! He's usually 3 steps ahead, this was disconcerting.
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