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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 12:55 pm 
Guess, I would have no other way of knowing.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 1:10 pm
I have a feeling that James was shot....maybe both James and David were shot. Just because we heard one shot doesn't mean there wasn't another shot immediately following it.
Cyrus tried to have James killed once before but stopped it at the last minute. I think his apology to James might've been his way of setting his own mind at ease for what he was planning to do. He didn't want James to die still hating him.
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 1:59 pm
didn't know if you had inside info, marameko ;)
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 6:09 pm
If people want spoilers check imdb. Either way it would be a great lost of a valued character but I guess that's tv for you. I just wonder the motivation. Did jake decide based on all the intel or was he ordered. Cyrus had asked for the VP to be killed but did he make another request?
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Gurliegirl
Member
06-20-2006
| Tuesday, March 18, 2014 - 6:25 am
I wish they'd stop billing it as THE.MOST.SHOCKING.EVER. Because, really, it wasn't. It was just another Scandal episode. Sure, there's a strong chance that one of our favorite characters is dead, but really that's just another Scandal episode. And there wasn't anything shocking because the entire episode was a lead up to it and you knew a shooting was coming.
Shocking, to me, was the entire first season where I was on my couch with my mouth agape at the end of every episode. Now it's all become expected. And I miss that first season where they were actually helping different individuals each week. I wish they'd go back to that. It was fun seeing how each scandal would play out.
Ahh, the good ol' days. 
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Sportygirl
Member
06-14-2005
| Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 10:20 pm
Great episode tonight! I won't give it away just yet in case some of you haven't watched it but have some Kleenex ready.
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Friday, March 21, 2014 - 9:13 am
I really didn't want that character killed. Grrrrrrrr!!
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Friday, March 21, 2014 - 12:06 pm
...................... who died?
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Gurliegirl
Member
06-20-2006
| Friday, March 21, 2014 - 12:44 pm
............................ James.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Friday, March 21, 2014 - 1:39 pm
thanks.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, March 21, 2014 - 2:22 pm
I sorry that character was killed. I liked him and he added an interesting dimension to the show.
It's practically impossible to find a character to cheer for on this show. They are all pretty low. I know it's not a popular choice but I think the one I like the best is Mellie (yes I know that's weird to a lot of people). LOL - Love the show though.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Friday, March 21, 2014 - 5:27 pm
"It's practically impossible to find a character to cheer for on this show."
So true!
Atleast Mellie hasn't actually murdered anyone.
Jake, Olivia's father, Olivia's mother, Huck, Quinn, VP Sally, Fitz, and that other B16 agent who's sleeping with/mentoring Quinn...all cold blooded murderers. Did I miss anyone?
I'm not sure but I think Cyrus might be a murderer, too...I don't remember if we've seen him order a hit and follow through with it, but we do know he once decided to have James killed and then changed his mind so that makes me assume he's had people killed before.
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Irsnappy
Member
01-13-2009
| Friday, March 21, 2014 - 7:33 pm
who did Jake bury?
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Friday, March 21, 2014 - 9:13 pm
The reporter and NSA agent
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Friday, March 21, 2014 - 9:21 pm
Top three moments for me all involved emotions....
Olivia's dad reaching for her hand (after a great dialogue...save EVERYONE)
Cyrus' breakdown at the podium
Jake staying with James (man was that so hard to watch but at same time you saw that respect jake had for a human being even if you have no forgiveness for his actions)
Honorable mentions - the smile mellie had when she mentioned the junior world championships after shooting - and having Harrison Abby and huck all run into Olivia's office at same time.
Great ep in my view - even with the violence and unlawfulness
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Saturday, March 22, 2014 - 5:35 am
I had to sit on this one a couple of days, mull over whether it was a good episode or not. It was a good episode! I didn't like James, but I didn't wish him dead (and I think Cyrus ordered him killed after he found the bug). Loved how Jake stayed with him, talking to him.
Loving Olivia's torment over the situation (girl, you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas!) Her dad is a little too angry all the time for me. Her momma is one scary woman!
I have to agree with Jimmer in that I think Mellie might be my favorite character.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Saturday, March 22, 2014 - 7:59 am
Hate this show love this show??? I am so confused except that I know I would not want to live in this world if I really believed this show depicted reality for our world. Hopefully it does not.
I can still root for David Rosen...so far he still has a conscious and some morals.
Mellie would probably sanction everything that has happened because for her and Cyrus...power seems to be the only thing that they truly love. Glad though that Mellie has found a lover...she deserves it after the way her husband behaves.
Cyrus's breakdown...pure guilt not grief...he is one big lowlife surrounded by a bunch more lowlifes
This show frustrates me but I can not quit watching.
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Saturday, March 22, 2014 - 8:23 am
Did I miss something? Why would Cyrus feel guilty over James' death? he didn't order it (this time LOL) Command did it for the good of the Union because James and Rosen were going to expose Sally Langston killing Daniel Douglas.
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Saturday, March 22, 2014 - 10:48 am
Texannie, pretty sure, although we did not see it happen, that Cyrus ordered James' death after he found the bug in the photo frame on his desk and discovered he was Publius.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, March 22, 2014 - 12:40 pm
My impression was that Cyrus did not order his death. It was a Command decision by Jake.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, March 22, 2014 - 1:05 pm
Mea culpa. I may have started this notion that Cyrus had something to do with the murder of James with my Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 1:10 pm.
I had said:
"Cyrus tried to have James killed once before but stopped it at the last minute. I think his apology to James might've been his way of setting his own mind at ease for what he was planning to do. He didn't want James to die still hating him."
...but I had it all wrong! I was so distrustful of power mad Cyrus because he had previously put a hit on James so when I posted that, I thought Cyrus had instigated those killings. But then in the following episode we saw it was actually Jake who drank the B16 kool-aid after being made the new Commander and he made the call all on his own.
I do think guilt had something to do with Cyrus' breakdown at the press briefing though. He had treated James so poorly for so long. He finally apologized to James and took full responsibility for his actions, but it came too late because James was killed almost immediately afterwards.
At the briefing, I believe that Cyrus was just overcome with grief and guilt.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, March 30, 2014 - 6:36 am
A few weeks ago, Cyrus went to Jake (B316) and convinced him it was a great threat to the Republic if those who were trying to reveal the truth about their latest scandal were not stopped (Vice President killed her husband and Cyrus was right in the center of it all).
Oh and now they are making Millie look like the villian for cheating on her cheating husband....
Excellent writing, story stays interesting and every character is repugnant...makes for a show I can't quit watching even though it disgusts me.
Cyrus should have been more specific in that it was okay to kill them all except for anyone that he cared about (he was not aware his husband was involved at the time)...but now Cyrus knows and now he knows he is very much responsible for his husbands death! So yes, it is guilt that is crumbling Cyrus. And he deserves every last drop of it.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Monday, March 31, 2014 - 7:43 am
Boberg said....
"Excellent writing, story stays interesting and every character is repugnant...makes for a show I can't quit watching even though it disgusts me."
It's like a wreck that you drive past slowly being "nibby". < Or inquisitive>
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Friday, April 04, 2014 - 10:28 am
Bam! its not always good to get what you want.
I think it was a pretty great ep last night - but then, most are.
Thought it funny that Abby showed up in the all white suit - nice humor in an intense situation.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, April 06, 2014 - 2:50 pm
Realism aside, that was an incredibly foolish short-sighted move on the part of Olivia and her team.
And Fitz totally lost me on this one with his anger over Mellie and his VP candidate while having an extended ongoing affair with Olivia. How can he even look at himself in the mirror?
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