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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 12:19 am 
The lady bought the house for Red. It was owned by someone in his family and it seemed like he lived there at some point. He said bad things happened there (or something like that). He bought it and then blew it up and said something like "that will make me feel better."
Not much happened after Keen shot the killer. They said something about testing if the killer's cure was for real, and one of them commented that it would be too late to help the son then. Red said he would get out of Keen's life if she asked him to - she didn't.
And Keen and hubby played happy families.
Next week's trailer had Keen's father, in what looked like a hospital bed, calling Keen and then as the camera pulled out Red was sitting next to him as if visiting and Keen's dad said something like "we have to tell her."
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Trini
Member
07-06-2004
| Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 8:40 am
Hi Kitt, which episode are you referring to. Is Seabreeze talking about Gina Z which is last Monday's. Then you helped her any way.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 9:54 am
The show Kitt described was on last night - Monday, Nov. 4.
Did you see a different show last night?
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Scout
Member
01-19-2005
| Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 7:00 am
Didn't they say on the first episode when they were giving Red's history that he was expected home to spend Christmas with his wife and daughter but instead just disappeared?
I assumed that this was the house he never returned to and seeing it makes him feel the guilt.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 11:49 am
I got the impression something bad happened to him or someone he loved there (they showed the clip of the girl on the swing, and I wondered if she was the woman in the photo he got from the killer's album the other week). I thought more likely it was his childhood home or if his wife was murdered there then maybe that. (I don't remember them saying he disappeared on his wife and daughter but that doesn't mean much, I often miss things.)
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Pjlover
Member
09-12-2010
| Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 8:30 pm
Regarding Red's history, I found this:
He attended the Naval Academy graduating top of his class at the age of 24, and was being groomed for Admiral, when he disappeared while coming home to visit his family for Christmas in 1990. The next time his actual location was known was when he walked into the FBI building at the start of "Pilot". In the intervening years leaks of classified information had been traced back to him. He became known as "The Concierge of Crime" due to his ability to arrange deals between the various black market factions. He was ranked fourth on the FBI's Most Wanted List as an "arrest on sight" fugitive. In Marrakesh he "died" for two and a half minutes.
http://the-blacklist.wikia.com/wiki/Raymond_Reddington
So, it appears they just said coming home to "visit his family", not necessarily his wife and daughter.
Sure seems like they're trying to make it look like Red is Keen's father, but I think that's misdirection. Don't have a clue what the real deal is.
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Scout
Member
01-19-2005
| Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 8:40 pm
Found this on Zap2it:
"Trained at the Naval Academy, where he graduated at the top of his class, "Red" Reddington was groomed to be an admiral. In 1990, while en route home to spend Christmas with his wife and young daughter, he vanished."
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 9:35 pm
I don't really 'like' the Red character (think the actor is overdoing it a bit) but I also agree the good guys are not trustworthy at all.
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Trini
Member
07-06-2004
| Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 3:36 am
Mama, I saw Gina Z, now I know. Monday 4 Nov was Fedrick Barns. I must have watched a previous episode Gina Z, since I have Global app I could have been behind.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 9:07 pm
I liked the show, but I sure didn't like House's best friend as the bad guy!
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Friday, November 08, 2013 - 10:44 am
Just got caught up on the last 2 eps. I thought that was Amanda from Revenge!
I think the hubby is still a bad guy or black ops guy of some sort. And Red has immunity, a deal with the govt, which is why they aren't prosecuting him for anything.
I think the house is where he lived with his "family".
I like that we don't get neat answers every week, but I do hope they start to fill in some of the blanks eventually.
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Seabreeze
Member
09-05-2004
| Friday, November 08, 2013 - 8:51 pm
Thanks for filling me in. I really love this show and was so disappointed with all the preempting this past Monday here in NY ...strange that my tape of hostage on the other network had only one very short cut out and they used the bottom of the box screen caption to update the news events that night.
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Seabreeze
Member
09-05-2004
| Friday, November 08, 2013 - 8:54 pm
I heard James Spader say today in an short blurb interview that he tries to convey no emotion as to leave the viewers to surmise what has happened. Something along that line.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:30 am
Red is a bad, bad man. When he was talking to Keen's hubby it was like he had him in a trance.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 8:43 am
Yes, that was very creepy. So Keen knows she was adopted at age 4. I wonder what she was told about her bio parents? I wonder what Red's relationship was to Keen's adoptive dad? Were they brothers? Friends?
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 10:09 am
my bet is either they were brothers or brothers in arms - in the military...
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 10:22 am
Why did he kill him? I didn't know if it was completely selfish (because he needed Lizzie not to be distracted for months) or completely selfless because the dad said he wished they'd said six hours not six months. Or was it because he'd said he "had to tell her?"
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 11:21 am
I'm thinking the #1 reason was because he was going to tell her. I think we are not supposed to feel AS bad about it because the guy had wished for a quick death.
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Scout
Member
01-19-2005
| Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 7:03 am
Legalboxer - I thought they might have been brothers, but the idea of brothers-in-arms hadn't occurred to me. That would also explain the close bond they seem to have had.
Wonder who it was Red was looking up? At first I thought it might have been his wife. But when I froze the screen, the date of birth was 7-5-83. I thought she kind of resembled Lizzie but with red hair. Did Red possibly have another daughter?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 9:07 am
I had wondered if whoever he was looking up was the same girl who was in the photo book possessed by the creepy guy who disposed of bodies with chemicals? but maybe that doesn't make any sense. We assumed the first photo was a victimy of creepy chemical guy. I would assume this picture in the crime database would be of someone still alive? But maybe not. I have no idea. 
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 10:13 am
The creepy guy was old and had such a big book, and the photo was very early in the book, so I thought the 20ish girl in the photo he took would have been around his age now, a sister/lover/friend. 1983 could make this girl her daughter, in fact I wonder if Lizzie and the 1983 girls are sisters (as Lizzie is adopted and doesn't know her birth family). I even wonder if the dead woman from the photo is their mother.
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Konamouse
Member
07-15-2001
| Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 11:13 pm
Maybe the woman in the photo was Lizzie's mother?
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Trini
Member
07-06-2004
| Saturday, November 16, 2013 - 8:02 pm
The woman on ViCAP data base is Lucy Brooks age 30. Does Lizzie work with ViCAP which is with Homeland Sec. I remember her telling her husband she is not with FBI; when he was brought in for questioning.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, November 16, 2013 - 8:09 pm
I thought Lizzie was with the FBI but she wasn't fully qualified at the beginning, so they had to bring her in above her station, as it were.
VICAP is the database name, which several agencies use. Well spotted with the name, it all flashed by too quickly for me to catch anything!
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Seabreeze
Member
09-05-2004
| Monday, November 18, 2013 - 10:23 pm
I thought this was on tonight. Disappointed that it was not because of The Voice or whatever the singing show is called.
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