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Episode 4 - March 18th

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“Knife to the Heart”

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Seamonkey
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09-06-2000

Saturday, March 21, 2026 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Mike Bloom had Reality Steve on a podcast about the last minute cancellation of the Bachelorette season but Steve was clearly not a fan of all the airtime for Zac Brown.

As for ratings, we need more details.

Like how is this season compared to other seasons, especially all star seasons.

I did see an article saying that season 49 had the worst ratings ever at that time.

Maybe the celebrities are to rescue the franchise and get their followers to join in.

Tina Wesson, in a podcast with Rob Cesternino, guessed that maybe there will be a celebrity season.

Maris
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03-27-2002

Saturday, March 21, 2026 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I am looking at the ratings and apparently those over the age of 49 don't count.

Seamonkey
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Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Saturday, March 21, 2026 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
From the link: Season 48 (Spring 2025) of Survivor on CBS averaged a 0.70 rating in the 18-49 demographic and 4.63 million viewers.

So this season is much better. And yes, the 18-49 demographic is most important when considering what shows are doing well. Like it or not. They spend the most, so are of most interest to advertisers.

Kappy
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06-28-2002

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Celebrity season? . That is not what fans want!!

Get rid of the new era and go back to 39 days if you want fans back.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Kappy, I'm not sure that's correct. This season does have higher ratings.

Face it, the ratings have been falling for years... network tv just doesn't do as well any more, and a long running show will struggle to keep viewers. It's not about the new era, it's just the way life and viewing habits have changed.

Jimmer
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08-29-2000

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think this season has slightly higher ratings because it is an all star season. The all stars are pulling back in past viewers who had stopped watching. The question is are those viewers liking what they are seeing?

LOL the only reason we even had a clue who Zac Brown is was because of his song "Chicken Fried". We don't generally listen to country music but my youngest DD stumbled across it and liked it enough to play it. A song about enjoying family, friends, beer and fried chicken and thanking the American troops who give their lives so that Americans can enjoy that life. Very American. I'll add that I'm not saying that in a mean way. I do like the song.

Scooterrific
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07-07-2005

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I'm not understanding what people's issues are with the episode. We enjoyed it, and it wasn't a waste of time. Im thoroughly confused

Jimmer
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08-29-2000

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think a lot of serious Survivor fans think that the introduction of celebrities distracts from the core elements of the game and adds little in return. It's especially true if you don't have any knowledge of or attachment to the celebrity. It's almost impossible for the show to find celebrities that everyone will like or care about. For example, while both Billie Eilish and Zac Brown are quite well known singers, it's doubtful their fan base overlaps much (LOL though I like both of them).

I do like that the shows are now 90 minutes so they have more time for these things while still including regular game play and camp life.

Pamy
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01-01-2002

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I didnt like that they wasted so much time on it. I dont want to see a celeb spear fish. I want to see the players. He had more confessionals than some have had all season

Jimmer
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08-29-2000

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It would have been cool if they had juxtaposed Ozzy successfully catching fish with his smaller spear. Seemed like a very big missed opportunity to me.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 2:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I wasn't bothered by it either Scooter.

One thing I do know about human nature however, is that people are more vocal about things they don't like than things they do. The ratings were up for this episode, and to me that says more people liked it than didn't. The online comments/posts/reactions aren't generally a good indicator.

It's the same with Big Brother. They keep changing things to keep it fresh, and the long time fans keep complaining. But most of the fans are tv viewers and like the twists.

Pamy, I would note that even before this episode, some have had very few confessionals. Sometimes I double take and think "who is that person" because they have had so few.

Pamy
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01-01-2002

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, that would have been so cool!

Kar, yes true.

As for the ratings, Im a fan as many are and will watch no matter what. Some eps are better than others. I feel the Zac thing overshadowed the great blindside and some of the other fun moments

Pamy
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01-01-2002

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Jimmer, ty so much for keeping the banner updated so quickly!!!

Jimmer
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08-29-2000

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 5:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
You’re welcome. It’s nice to see more posts about this season. That’s probably a good sign. :-)

Pamy
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01-01-2002

Sunday, March 22, 2026 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
yes it is!

Someone posted the actual time Zac took up. LOL I swear it felt like 20 min LOL

...8 minutes 35 seconds…the part with just Zac fishing and talking was 2:20 of that…

Seamonkey
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09-06-2000

Monday, March 23, 2026 - 1:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Ratings indicate that viewers tuned in or recorded the show but that doesn't indicate how many enjoyed the celebrity part of the show.

Also, normally, reward footage includes so strategy talks or confessionals. This time it was all about Zac.

There were some good parts of the show though.

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