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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 1:03 pm 
Really, at this stage, I haven't a clue.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 1:05 pm
yeah, I was surprised when Bernard was a host, but that last 15 minutes, I couldn't figure out what the heck was going on. Totally lost.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 10:38 pm
I looked at some reviews of the latest episode to get a better handle on it and I think I am going down the rabbit hole a bit like Sanfran was saying. And I'm nervous about saying too much and dragging others down with me!
But, if anyone wants to explore the link below about others' theories of the show it might blow your mind much like it did mine.
http://tinyurl.com/ze7qky5
(link goes to vanityfair.com)
I read that, and some of the links in it, watched episodes 1 and particularly 2 again (they're available on demand) and I'm sold... and it makes the show much more interesting and understandable.
If anyone wants a short version, or clues to what to look for, I'm putting it in a spoiler box below, even though it's just theories, not spoilers at all, I just don't want people to be mad at me for giving things away if it ends up being a big reveal on the season finale.
Spoiler
Click below to view spoiler | The show features (at least) two timelines. In the present is Ed Harris (referred to online as the Man In Black, MIB) and his storyline, and everything we see inside the factory/lab/offices thing including the staff and Maeve. But in the past, 30 years ago, we have the storyline with William and his soon to be brother-in-law. If you watch the first couple of episodes again with this in mind it seems pretty clear, including Delores saying "remember" before we start the old timeline, and there being an old logo on the Westworld office building where they start their journey.
And the kicker (which I'm not convinced about yet, but have seen pointers that do suggest it's true)... people are saying that William 30 years ago is the MIB now! Some things he says to Lawrence (the guy with the creepy daughter who switched and revealed info about the maze to the MIB) in episode 2 make me think this is true too. |
Read the box or click the link only if you want to get rather involved in the show!!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, November 24, 2016 - 10:43 am
Thanks, Kitt... that helps, but I'm still not sure how all this "maze" stuff fits with that.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Thursday, November 24, 2016 - 2:41 pm
That I think is reasonably straightforward, in that it could be anything ;) ;).
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, November 24, 2016 - 6:35 pm
LOL, uh, yeah. 
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 12:33 pm
I've watched all the episodes twice now, except this last one, and I am no wiser about the maze. Right now I think it might be something Arnold built in as either a challenge or a learning experience for his special hosts, whoever they might be (Dolores, Teddy etc.). Maybe the Man in Black wants to get into it because he's heard so much about it, not because it's meant to be a game or challenge for him.
Interesting progression in young William.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, December 05, 2016 - 3:42 pm
I thought they tied this together really well. I'm not quite sure what it will mean for next season, whether they'll rebel or whether most will just get on with their "lives," but as long as they don't switch to "Park 2" or "Samurai World" I'm excited to see what will happen.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 10:52 pm
Hmmmmmm, is it going to be a season of chaos?
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Monday, April 23, 2018 - 8:50 am
Fifteen minutes in, I felt like I was watching a Disney version of The Walking Dead. They need less killing and more story telling.
I was bored for most of the hour so I could have misunderstood many things that happened. It sounds like Arnold created a game within the game just for the Man in Black. Bernard is losing his brain/hard drive liquid that apparently is absolutely needed. Maeve is still stuck on finding her child. A tiger came through the border of park 6 leading me to believe it really is just like Disney World. Will this become like Lost where they jump from one cast and story line to another? The one thing I do know after last night is that I am over listening to the monotone dialogues of Dolores which means I am probably missing key points. She drones, I tune out and Teddy barely says a word. I think I'll wait until the end of the season and binge watch unless I hear better reviews.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 23, 2018 - 11:07 am
I found it very confusing but I have to confess that I was pretty tired and sleepy when I watched it.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, April 23, 2018 - 11:57 am
The scenes with Arnold and the special forces clean up type guys seem to be two weeks after the shootings from the end of last season. There's an ocean (in the middle of the desert?) and almost all the hosts are drowned in it.
And then we get a second story happening just after the shootings, with Arnold trying to escape with the woman; Dolores and Teddy taking revenge on the remaining humans; and Maeve and the cute bandit guy trying to find Maeve's daughter.
And we know that two weeks later (the first timeline) Teddy is dead (or as dead as hosts get) under the water.
I thought it was Ford/Anthony Hopkins who made the game within a game for the man in Black?? I think it was also Ford's re-writing of the landscape that created the ocean.
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Monday, April 23, 2018 - 2:41 pm
I understood the two week time frame. I do want to know what happened to the lady in gold during that time. When at the edge of the water at the end, Bernard comments that he thinks he killed them all.
I thought Arnold was Ford's interpretation of himself as a child and that's why Arnold's voice kept switching back and forth to Ford's voice. Or maybe I just started drifting into my own world, lol.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, April 23, 2018 - 6:03 pm
Sorry, that's me using the names interchangeably when I probably shouldn't. Arnold is the human that Bernard is a model of, who died a long time ago. Bernard was in this episode.
The boy is a model of Ford/Anthony Hopkins when he was young. I don't know if he has a name in the show, but the man in black knows he's Ford, or at least knows he's Ford's tool for talking to him.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, April 24, 2018 - 9:13 pm
We just watched it, and we're so confused!!! I have no idea what I just watched. Hubby says he'll give it one more episode and if it doesn't improve, we're done. So disappointing.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 3:50 pm
I gave it 2 1/2 episodes. This show makes no sense anymore, and I'm tired of the constant murder and bloodshed. This show was fun the first season, but now it's just depressing and horrifying. I'm done.
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Akwarlord47
Member
06-26-2007
| Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - 8:45 am
I'm totally loving this season. I like it when the underdogs get to fight back. (But I really like the blood and gore) It is so fascinating that the "humans" had no issue with torturing the "Hosts" and now the tables are turned... I hope the Hosts make it out of the park, how will the interpret the "real" world? What to expect???
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - 10:49 am
This week's one was pretty horrifying. Better than the two before but way too nasty and it's lost it's mystery. I'm hoping it will go back to what it was, the gore is not for me.
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Saggkl
Member
07-16-2002
| Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - 10:53 am
I am with Babyjaxmom, I just don't think I will continue with this show. I plan to re watch the series up to now. And probably will delete it from my list.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Friday, June 22, 2018 - 1:22 pm
I loved WW Season 1 and have enjoyed season 2 but I admit I ff through several of the gory scenes. Episode 8 was absolutely stunning. I watched it twice. I am looking forward to the season finale Sunday.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Friday, November 09, 2018 - 8:40 pm
It's just a set, not real people's houses, but wow:
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