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Kitt
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09-05-2000
| Tuesday, January 06, 2026 - 11:31 am 
This is discussion for any episodes up to the currently aired episode, which could include spoilers if you aren't up to date.
At the moment, that's up to and including S4E3.
S4E4 airs 12noon board time tomorrow, Wednesday. E5 and £6 are Thursday and Friday this week.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, January 06, 2026 - 12:30 pm
I think they are revealing the Secret Traitor too soon! I am guessing that they were going to merge the Secret T into the main group once a regular T was found, but they didn't expect that to happen so soon.
It's a shame, because I think we could have identified the Secret T in only a couple more rounds. The first episode they choose to banish one of James, Netty and Maz. Then second Reece, Ben and Maz. So we know the Secret T isn't James, Netty (murdered), Reece, Ben and Maz, nor regular Ts Rachel nor Stephen nor Hugo (banished). Also not Judy (banished) or Ben (murdered). That's down from 22 to 12 suspects! If it went on for a couple more rounds and they were forced to isolate different faithfuls each time, we'd be pretty close to guessing.
When they chose Maz for a second time I got a bit annoyed, as I thought they'd be able to control the game by picking on someone they didn't want, for whatever reason. But I think it might have been done to limit what the regular Ts could deduce about the Secret T.
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Maris
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03-27-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2026 - 2:46 pm
another reason I love Alan Carr: https://www.facebook.com/reel/2382204895532887
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Maris
Member
03-27-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2026 - 2:48 pm
I actually like the secret traitor twist. It puts the real traitors on edge. It is really delicious. Do you know who the secret traitor is? I am not sure.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, January 06, 2026 - 2:59 pm
Not yet, at the end of episode three they revealed that the regular traitors would find out... but the show ended before that happened.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Thursday, January 08, 2026 - 2:25 am
Poor old Ross really was dealt a bad hand. Netty was so silly to exclaim at the beginning that she knew him, but what's really weird to me is the reveal this last episode that Ross and Ellie were dating!! So he knew her on purpose, and the connection with Netty was just a coincidence??
I also suspect everyone or at least many in the house have a partner there of some sort.
I think R&S will get rid of Fiona soon, she's too unpredictable, and I think she would be quick to betray them. They need to get there first.
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Maris
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03-27-2002
| Thursday, January 08, 2026 - 3:16 pm
I really liked Ross. Very disappointed he is gone. I really would like to see Fiona get set up by her traitors.
I think we might be dealing with secret pairs, relatives, girfriends/boyfriends, coworkers.....
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Kitt
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09-05-2000
| Friday, January 09, 2026 - 12:52 am
Thursday’s episode (5) is a real corker! I knew Fiona was a loose cannon, and I don’t think it was strategy, she was just jealous her friend didn’t trust her like she trusted Rachel.
What worries me for Rachel, is if it looks a bit traitor on traitor, which will depend what happens tomorrow, as there’s a whole day before the next banishment and the first opportunity to get rid of Fiona. I think R should push it all as crazy, and unreliable, I.e. a personality failing of Fiona making her a bad faithful, especially as Fiona hasn’t been helping in the challenges. If she tries to wrangle the circumstances to saying it’s because Fiona's a traitor it’s going to sound too calculated. Especially when (at banishment) she’s shown to be right. It’d reinforce “traitor on traitor” I think.
Wonder what Fiona will do next, whether she’ll realise her mistake.
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Maris
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03-27-2002
| Friday, January 09, 2026 - 4:03 am
I think Rachel has exposed herself at the round table for pushing Ross. Rachel could also plant a seed with someone that Fiona is a traitor and at the same time taking the heat off Steven. Fiona was one of the five present in that conversation that Ross pointed to as one person being a traitor.
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Kitt
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09-05-2000
| Friday, January 09, 2026 - 10:42 am
Rachel thought she was being clever with Ross, but it didn't look good. Not sure whether it looked traitory or just awkward. In general Rachel doesn't seem to be very good socially, so that might protect her, if that didn't look too off for her character.
Yes, if Rachel and Stephen can talk privately that would be a good thing to push. And I think then they would forget about Stephen for a while, as the rest of the suspicion is mostly based on that one thing.
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Kitt
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09-05-2000
| Saturday, January 10, 2026 - 2:03 am
Episode 6 was wild! Not just in the follow on from the Rachel/Fiona thing, but the last few minutes!! I will wait to post a bit more.
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Maris
Member
03-27-2002
| Saturday, January 10, 2026 - 5:54 am
Kitt that was so delicious. I cant wait to see whether Matt got it right. I am so glad over the banishment results.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, January 10, 2026 - 6:53 am
There is an aftershow called Traitors Uncloaked, which I'm not watching, but saw briefly while turning channels. Fiona was on it, and she was dressed like this:
She's only 62, and I think the old lady stylings, including hair, was all an attempt to create a harmless image, that would be a contrast to the undercover character she wanted to portray as the evil behind the scenes manipulator.
But she came on way too strong and inauthentic onscreen, imo. And then whatever gambit she was playing over Rachel just didn't work, and that was it. It did make me smile. I was actually surprised it wasn't more 50:50 with Sam, from some of the questions, there must have been more talk off camera that had swayed them.
Matt... I would half like them just to say "No" to his deal, just to exert some power, but wow is that a way to play the game! Jessie is now content that she got the traitor from her Ross-Group theory, so it seems a good time to get rid of her without it necessarily pointing to Stephen. And then Matt seems generally under the radar and liked, so he might make a good traitor, but maybe a safer traitor than either of R or S, so perhaps you don't actually want him beside you.
Maybe they could string him along and murder Jessie, but then murder him after that ;).
I wonder what Harriet's going to ask. And unless they all agreed not to talk about what happened with their Traitor questions, Rachel's going to have to make up some questions and answers she would have got from them (were she a faithful).
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Maris
Member
03-27-2002
| Saturday, January 10, 2026 - 2:03 pm
They would be fools not to pick Matt to be a traitor. He is smart and has a good handle on the game. So happy Fiona met her demise.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-21-2001
| Sunday, January 11, 2026 - 2:01 pm
Happy to see Fiona go - she was realllllly pushing it! I agree from up above, Kitt - I think all of them have a partner in there. Maybe Fiona was the only exception and thus the reason she was picked as the "secret" traitor at the beginning.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, January 12, 2026 - 11:19 am
It's strange really that having a partner in the show isn't really an advantage, as if one (or both) is (are) a faithful they can never be sure their partner isn't a traitor.
So I guess the one time it can work in your favour is if you were a traitor and could recruit your parter as a traitor, then you could be completely sure of loyalty.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-26-2000
| Monday, January 12, 2026 - 7:51 pm
I have had to skip over the last few posts, as I just NOW finished watching episode five, and Holy Crap!!!
But go ahead and discuss the rest. I will watch 6 tomorrow and am fully capable of skipping over dangerous posts, and am not averse to spoilers anyway.
So I watched 4 and 5 tonight. Ep. 4 had some reveals - I had correctly guessed the secret traitor. And it did not surprise me at all that Ellie and Ross are connected, as I thought they would be a good couple while they were at their first meet before they entered the castle. And it will also not surprise me if Stephen and the brilliant girl who stammers are brother and sister, possibly even fraternal twins.
Maris, you must be absolutely LOVING these UK shows, as you can distinguish all the different accents as to which country they are from, which Americans, of course, cannot. Having grown up with an Australian mother, I can at least distinguish between NZ and Aussie, but I cannot do the British Isles accents, except sometimes the Scottish.
Where was I? OMG, the ending of episode 5!!! The cannibals are loose! Fiona tells Harriett (the true sleeper sleuth of the show) that Rachel is "feathering her nest"! Bwahahahaha!!!
Oh, and what about Rhys? (sub-titles/cc spell it as Rhys, which I think is correct spelling of his name, but the players are writing Reese and Reece on their slates - Maris, insight?)
And also, what about Rhys? A brilliant mind, I thought, since he saved his crew on finding those paintings in one of the first missions. But he routinely underestimates his own self-worth and always saves others. Now he is weeping when he fails to save others. The sub-titles show his job as a sweet shop assistant, meaning for Americans, a candy store clerk.
This is a truly intriguing show.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, January 13, 2026 - 2:09 am
His actual name is Reece. Reese is more common in England. Rhys obviously is the Welsh origin.
From e6, I was surprised when Reece went that he seemed not to actually want to leave. When others had described it as a mercy killing, as he didn't seem to be enjoying himself, I thought that seemed accurate. Sweet guy.
I've thought more about the Rachel-Fiona confrontation. It makes sense for Rachel to accuse Fiona of being a traitor, whether she was or not, because after what Fiona said she'd want her out regardless. BUT it only really makes sense for Fiona to accuse Rachel of being a traitor if Fiona knew R was actually one. I think the others are going to wonder what was in it for Fiona - who they now know to be a plotting traitor - on targeting Rachel unless she knew she'd get kudos for it at the round table when they found out she was correct. Slight chance they rationalise it by saying Fiona was just creating chaos and then trying to look innocent, but I think once the dust settles Rachel will be targeted.
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Maris
Member
03-27-2002
| Tuesday, January 13, 2026 - 11:28 am
I definitely get the northern Irish accent on Rachel
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-26-2000
| Tuesday, January 13, 2026 - 7:56 pm
I made time on my schedule tonight to watch two episodes, so I watched Ep. 6, but then couldn't find ep. 7. Does that mean I am now caught up, and 7 has not yet been released? I did note either Claudia or the announcer said this episode was the halfway mark, so there should be 6 more episodes. I am not sure my heart can take it.
Oh, and now that I am apparently caught up, I can read this entire thread daily. Yay!
When will the next episode be released?
I thought I heard Stephen make a comment about how thrilled he was that all three traitors are Celtics, or something to that effect.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-26-2000
| Tuesday, January 13, 2026 - 8:24 pm
quote:Fiona was a loose cannon, and I don’t think it was strategy, she was just jealous her friend didn’t trust her like she trusted Rachel.
My impression as well, Fiona is entirely full of herself and was genuinely jealous.
Okay, Kitt, so you can definitely discern all of the accents. (Apparently I am a person who really notices slight differences in similar accents, and am actually a bit proud that nobody has commented on my midwest twang in perhaps over 40 years.) So, please, anybody who can identify the accents, if you feel like humoring me, do an old dawg a favor and put, for example, (Welsh accent) when you discuss a player, so I can study it on the remaining shows. I tried looking up the cast, but Wikipedia mostly shows just where they live now.
Oh, and please DO tell me if Stephen and Jessie have the same accent. I am going to try to figure out at least if there are any other familial relationships.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, January 14, 2026 - 12:15 am
I’m not great with accents I’m not familiar with so I can only be generic.
Stephen is Scottish, and with Rachel from NI and Fiona Welsh, that’s why he mentioned the Celtic connection. Jessie has what I’d just call a Northern accent, definitely not Scottish, wiki says Hull which sounds right to me. I’ll keep an eye out for the others as we go forward.
There are three episodes a week, on Wed, Thurs, Fri. So we’ve had two weeks and six episodes, and episode 7 is tonight. Should see what happens with Matt and I can’t wait!
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Maris
Member
03-27-2002
| Wednesday, January 14, 2026 - 3:14 am
I agree,Fiona wanted to be the queen bee and wanted Rachel out.
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Pschrfhd
Member
05-22-2011
| Wednesday, January 14, 2026 - 10:39 am
Kitt - I just watched Uncloaked from Episode 6, and the picture you posted is not Fiona, but one of the traitors from Season 1 UK, Amanda. Had me fooled, though... what a resemblance!
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, January 14, 2026 - 11:12 am
Oh wow, thanks for pointing that out, Pschrfhd! I only flicked across the channel briefly and should have paid more attention, I was convinced they were talking to her because she was Fiona!!
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