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Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
How are we sure that's Ben?

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I don't believe for a minute that this is Ben.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
that 'song' was painfully long. I was trying to FF to see if there were any credits at the end. I do think it looked a lot like Ben, but who knows.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
No credits. And there is nothing else at that website except that one video.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
The owner of the domain name is "Gaughan, Conor", so no help there.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Yikes about the nervous shoulders.. and I must need my eyes examined!!!

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 9:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Well after reading a few of your comments expressing doubt that it's actually Ben in the video, I began to doubt it myself. So I was thinking perhaps I'd do a photo comparison to see if it really is Ben, even though Reality Steve is usually pretty accurate with these things (I don't much care for his snarky comments but I do have to concede he's usually pretty accurate.) Anyway, I went to the Bachelorette website to grab some photos of Ben to use for the comparison and found what I think is a smoking gun.




Looks pretty definitive to me! LOL!!

You can find the original photo on the Bachelorette website in Ben's photo gallery -- http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/photo-details/ben-fs-gallery/827470/818481

By the way, the ABC / Bachelorette website has some new videos up previewing Monday's finale, and in the photo galleries for Ben and JP are photos of both guys ring shopping, and being escorted by Chris to the final rose ceremony.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 10:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm not sure what to make of the photo! Do you suppose he told her about his video and did a demo, or is that photo shopped?

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 10:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Brenda, I doubt it's a photoshop job as it's on the Bachelorette website. I'm guessing it's as you first said, that he must have told her about the video and decided to demo the character for her. It was his hometown date after all. I also read somewhere that Ben's partner at Evolve Wines said he met Ashley at the winery when she visited, so there was a lot to their date that we didn't see. I'm guessing Ben showing her his alter ego was part of that. Just my take on it.

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 11:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Ask me why I'm spending time on this and I can only say it's because it's a little more amusing than things going on in my own life right now. With that said... I notice that Forgery Films only registered their domain last week and Conor Gaughan only recently opened his twitter account. However, he seems to exchange tweets with a variety of young Hollywood types (Justin Gaston) and one of his followers is a member of the Fab Five from Expedition Impossible. He also used to be CEO of a company called Winefetch. So... I suspect he is somehow connected to Ben but he has a pic posted and he doesn't appear to be the same guy appearing in the video with Ben. I find the timing of the release of the video to be a little suspicious, right before the Bachelorette finale, so it's hard to know if Ben endorsed releasing it right now or if it was simply out of his control. But I do think it's Ben in the video and although I was just as surprised as the next person to see him behaving in such a profane manner, it all seems like pretty harmless humor that would not be unexpected from a young man in his 20s. I suppose another theory could be that someone from the Bachelorette staff who saw Ben's "costume" during the hometown date went out and found a Ben look-a-like and had the video made in the two months since the hometown date actually occurred and strategically decided to release it now in order to capitalize on Ben's publicity. Referring to Ockham's Razor (sp?), which says that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, I tend to think the second possibility is not as plausible as the idea that it's Ben in the video and one of his friends simply decided to release it now. Again, just my two cents.

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 11:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
One more interesting tidbit...

Wetpaint.com, on their page where they also posted the Ben video, has this note posted:

UPDATE: ABC has asked the site to remove the video, so it is no longer available to view. Sad face!

http://www.wetpaint.com/the-bachelorette/articles/omg-news-of-the-day-ben-flajnik-stars-in-nsfw-video-cream-dreams

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 3:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
What did I miss?

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 5:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Hey Lexie

Definitely curious to hear your opinion on this.

Go upthread to my post from yesterday afternoon 5:55pm. Check out the video at
http://www.forgeryfilms.com (note, if the video is choppy, turn off the HD feature by clicking the HD symbol at the bottom right of the video box.)

The debate is whether it's actually Ben F. in the video. I'm saying yes but I don't think others are as convinced.

FYI, I first found out about the vid from Reality Steve's blog last week but I see now that it's making the rounds and other sites and blogs are talking about it too.

Looking forward to your thoughts.

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 5:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Shifting the topic slightly, here's a really great interview with Ames from Reality TV World.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/bachelorette-ames-brown-i-wanted-ashley-relationship-be-forever-12502.php

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
Jezzed, I watched the video and went to get images of Ben to compare as well but couldn't decide if it was him or not...I wanted to see the nose and chin but didn't find good images for comparison. Thennnnn I saw the photo on ABC in the gallery and err ummm, yeah, I think it's him and my thoughts are that he was trying to do some preemptive damage control by letting Ashley see his "costume". It appears he might be another fame hunter.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
REMINDER: THE MEN TELL ALL TONIGHT, 9 EST

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 3:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the reminder RS!! Even though I expect it to be rather anti-climatic, I'm still looking forward to it. Word is William takes a bit of a lashing from the other guys. Bring on the drama!

TXhazel, I keep wanting to stop short of thinking Ben was in it for the publicity, but you might be right. I hadn't thought of preemptive damage control but you might have a point. Hmmm...


Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Great reminder, RS. Thanks so much!

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Admittedly, I haven't figured out that video. But I just don't see the connection between making it (if it was Ben) and being a fame hunter. Up until RS dug deep to find it, did the video bring fame to anyone?

If it is Ben, maybe he had the costume in his closet and wanted to bring it out to show Ashley -- something fun for their date..

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Yes, after seeing the pic on ABC, I think it is Ben on the video. I mean, where do they find most of these guys? Aren't many of them on the fringes of the biz and possibly wanting to get into it? It certainly shows a different side of Ben, but I still think he's probably a nice guy. I think the video was *supposed* to be funny, even if I think it fell short.

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 5:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
Well, I don't know how old Ben is, but I'm guessing mid to late 20s, and I can't imagine someone that age who would be in a video like that disgusting thing for any other purpose. However, I do know that men tend to mature at a slower pace than women, so, it's a long shot, IMO.

I happen to think that the scenario about having to have a costume tucked away in his closet for him to show a possible mate would be quite a gi-normous stretch. Quite the coinkydink!

Yes, Brenda, I agree, epic fail.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I don't think it would be far fetched at all that he would have the outfit. Clearly it was a low-budget film made by he and his buddy. I doubt they had a wardrobe department. I would expect that both guys kept their costume.

I know my DS (and DD) have done films in school and we have a box with their props/costumes...

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
Oh, sorry, I misread about the "if it is Ben" part, yeah, I totally can see that. I thought you were saying he wasn't involved in that video and just happened to have a costume like that laying around. lol How silly of me!

Texannie
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07-15-2001

Monday, August 01, 2011 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
did bentley show up at the men tell all?

Roblover
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05-17-2011

Monday, August 01, 2011 - 5:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roblover a private message Print Post    
No, Texannie, he did not. I thought it was a boring show except for the outtakes, which I enjoyed. Ashley wiped away tears at the beginning when talking about the bentley problem. I was not sure if she was tearing up because of the embarrassment or because of the mean things that she read on internet about herself in relation to bentley. Did anyone catch which?