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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-16-2000
| Tuesday, March 04, 2025 - 7:12 pm 
"Scary is something I'm not sure I expected"
Maybe I didn't use the right words. I didn't mean scream and jump out of your seat scary....more like emotionally scary based on loved ones and very dangerous situations. Oh yeah, and there's that one ep that had characters that can only be described as starving, flesh eating zombies! Bwahaha..! 
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]i{"But if they do that, it spoils the feeling at the end, where Sam was with Dean almost immediately in heaven, and Dean didn't have to spend decades without him. "}
But it's Supernatural! That means someone could go back and snatch the Boys up from a time before they went to heaven for special all important mission, right? Or something....they've been in cowboy days and Hollywood shooting Supe scenes and in heavel previously and in hell....all of which could be seen as end-of-show situations, but they manage to get out of it.
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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-16-2000
| Tuesday, March 04, 2025 - 7:30 pm
Pardon the weird misspelling and or odd syntax...I ran out of time trying to fix them with the edit tool.
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Kitt
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09-05-2000
| Wednesday, March 05, 2025 - 5:14 am
What they really need to do is pretend there was another season in the middle somewhere, like pre-Leviathan, found on the cutting room floor, and we can all just watch and slot it into our memories  .
Last night we watched the Farscape episode where Crichton was left behind and ended up on a planet where Rygel was their god! Pretty amusing .
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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-16-2000
| Wednesday, March 05, 2025 - 12:18 pm
Since my previous post, something has been nagging at me because it never crossed my mind when I posted.
You're right that a past time could fit into the story line seamlessly, but that's true ONLY if the same group of creative people write, produce, direct, and star in it. What finally crossed my mind was this:
Supernatural coming back with the same creators and actors would be a "return", but any changes in that would make it a "reboot".....and I hate reboots and returns. They never work for me because they always feel like a desperate move to regain what they had decades before rather than trying to be creative and making something new.
I think the only "return" that worked out perfectly (for me) was Law & Order. Of course that is VERY formulaic and their cast continually rotated through the years. I like it because it's an easy watch and the cases are interesting.
Another exception that just came to me is the Star Trek franchise, the most successful reboot in TV history!
I think I'd settle for a few TV movies from the Supernatural universe or even a few blockbuster summer movies could be fun with big movie stars along with the Boys and still in the Supeverse.....maybe set in an alternate universe where their path took some kind of twisty turn or something. I can easily imagine Brad Pitt, Meryl Streep, George Clooney, and Lady Gaga Ga in a Supe film, maybe even playing themselves caught up in a demon invasion of Hollywood! LOL
But The Winchesters attempt to keep the Superverse alive was a major disappointment.
Bottom line: I'd probably watch whatever they do if, in fact, they do anything at all, like I did the Winchesters. But a typical reboot could easily be another huge disappointment.
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Yes! Emperor Rygel was a hoot! In some eps he seems to have softened a bit and others make him come across more selfish and narcissistic than ever. I think he gets to be cgi in a scene in the Peacekeeper Wars movies that are "s05".
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Kitt
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09-05-2000
| Thursday, March 06, 2025 - 3:02 am
I think the show was so complete as it was. If it didn’t end as it did it could have continued in some way (e.g. if the boys had just retired, then something could have happened to bring them out), but slotting something in to an earlier time has the risk of spoiling something (plus we’d have 45 year old boys playing 30 year olds) and any sort of reboot/spin off with other actors could just be so-so, not bringing back the magic. I think that’s what Jensen said when he was told Dean’s end, that he wanted to end the show, but not kill it forever, and he felt that did kill it.
An in-universe spin-off with ghost Dean visiting might be ok, but that can’t work with Sam, because Sam was alive for most of the lives of any spin off characters we’d be interested in (e.g. Donna or Claire). I suppose Sam could be an advisor or something, but it wouldn’t have the same boys dynamic. And it would have to just be one story arc, like a tv movie.
To be honest, I think it’s too special to touch, and I don’t know how it could work, but like you, I’d probably watch whatever they made.
Btw, I keep thinking about rewatching the actual show, but two things hold me back. One is the practicality of it for me right now, but the other was that it was such an emotional roller coaster and it’s kind of scary to put yourself back into that. A short series maybe, but not 327 episodes! And now I love every essence of each main character it would be triply difficult. I’m sure I will some day, but not yet.
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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-16-2000
| Thursday, March 06, 2025 - 12:23 pm
"and any sort of reboot/spin off with other actors could just be so-so, not bringing back the magic."
Yes. They should remember "The Winchesters" and how that turned out.
I don't really think a whole new series is needed either.
I'd still like to see a couple of standalone movies, maybe starting with Dean and Sammy chillin' while having a beer in heaven and Dean says "Hey remember when <insert blockbuster movie here>?
Of course, that can be a mistake, too. With "Firefly" (Nathan Fillion) the network tried to fix their canceling mistake by making a followup movie. I was so excited about the movie (with all the original actors) 2 years after the series ended but when I watched it, it just fell flat because there was little or no humor in it. Humor was a huge part of the charm in the series!
Oh well....it's a "wait and see" situation...so I'll wait but only with low expectations.
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Kitt
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09-05-2000
| Friday, March 07, 2025 - 4:25 pm
The Firefly movie was not good, one of those ones where it’s best to just pretend it didn’t happen.
Yes, wait and see. I hope if they do it they do it right, but whatever they want to do (or not do) is fine by me really, if it makes them happy, lol.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Thursday, March 13, 2025 - 1:12 pm
Sanfran, this is the ChatGPT answer I mentioned in the N&V section:
Q. Which character in the TV show Supernatural is the most dreamy?
A. The question of which character in "Supernatural" is the most dreamy can vary greatly depending on personal taste, but the most commonly cited characters for their dreaminess are:
Dean Winchester (Jensen Ackles) - Dean is often seen as the quintessential heartthrob of "Supernatural". His rugged good looks, charm, and fiercely protective nature make him a fan favorite. His love for classic rock and muscle cars adds to his appeal.
Sam Winchester (Jared Padalecki) - Sam, with his tall, athletic build and thoughtful, compassionate demeanor, is another strong contender. His intellectual side and empathetic nature resonate with many fans, making him a dreamy character for those who prefer a more sensitive type.
Castiel (Misha Collins) - Castiel, the angel with piercing blue eyes and a stoic yet deeply loyal personality, has captured the hearts of many viewers. His journey of learning human emotions and his unwavering dedication to the Winchesters add to his allure.
Ultimately, the most dreamy character is subjective and depends on what qualities you find most attractive. Whether it's Dean's roguish charm, Sam's gentle strength, or Castiel's enigmatic loyalty, "Supernatural" offers a range of dreamy characters to swoon over.
Not bad for AI, eh? (Of course the correct answer is Sam. Or maybe Dean. Or occasionally Castiel...)
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Thursday, March 13, 2025 - 3:57 pm
They claim it has an artificial intelligence, but it appears to be an artificial plagerist!
That sounds like a post made by some fanboy or fangirl that was asked that question! lol
It was amusing though.
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BTW FS S03 has been zigzagging between hilarious and heartbreaking. Seems like each ep is like a Forrest Gump chocolate...
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Friday, March 14, 2025 - 1:15 am
Well that’s basically what these large language model AIs are, they read everything in their database, and regurgitate the most frequent phrases assuming if it’s most repeated it’s most correct. In this case it would be reading every bit of fan fiction on the internet and spouting out the key words for each character in a pleasing manner.
Last night on Farscape I finally saw (or finally noticed) the actual full size Pilot. He’s usually inside that oyster shell thing, and I thought he was small, a bit like Rygel, but nope, he’s a giant, bigger than Crichton!
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Friday, March 14, 2025 - 1:50 pm
I believe Pilot has tendrils that grow way down into Moya. I never thought about whether he was little or big...to me, he's always been Moya's second head/copilot/manager/conjoined-friend. Have you seen the backstory of Pilot yet? The backstory eps and flashbacks of the characters really fill in so much of who they are.
Don't you love the way Chiana moves? She has such angular poses when she moves or listens or when she's trying to figure something out. Her movements are catlike to me. Sometimes it's the little things that make someone a great character.
Btw I saw an interview with Chiana (the actor not the character whose name I can't remember). She said her wig was the same one used in every season so I pay attention to it...when we first saw her, her hair was kind of bouncy...by s03 it seems to be a helmet...looks the same but doesn't bounce. If I remember correctly it is pretty sad looking by the end of the series.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, March 15, 2025 - 1:56 am
I haven’t seen the backstory episode yet, but I did assume he was attached some how. It was strange to see him outside his shell.
Funny you mention Chiana’s hair, that is what I’ve been thinking about the last couple of episodes! She’s only been in a couple of episodes where I am, but a lot of the publicity shots have her in and her hair looks like the helmet you see. Then when she appears in my eps she has relatively normal, if perhaps a little punky, hair! Poor actress, I hope the wig didn’t smell by the end! As for how she moves, she’s a strange little thing! I haven’t seen enough to comment more, but I like her.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, March 15, 2025 - 12:57 pm
"As for how she moves, she’s a strange little thing!"
She's a bit catlike...sometimes if she hears something that she doesn't recognize she stops walking and is frozen in an angled pose with her head tilted.
ETA And she has a lovely paint job....she almost looks like she's in B/W while the rest are in color!
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, March 22, 2025 - 7:31 pm
Season 4
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, March 24, 2025 - 2:04 am
That is looking a bit rough! In some of the publicity photos it is more helmet shaped, so in some regards that's better than I thought.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, March 25, 2025 - 3:01 pm
Zhaan is a plant!!! 
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Tuesday, March 25, 2025 - 5:37 pm
That was the story they had originally planned to present early in the season, but they decided to wait until we knew Zhann already.
It worked for me...I was so surprised and delighted when I thought I knew who she was while not even knowing what she was.
This is the ep that always comes to mind when I think of FS.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, March 26, 2025 - 4:35 am
Delighted is the word! I love those out of nowhere things that would never even have occurred to you, especially when they boggle Crichton.
Something always makes me think that Zhann is evil, deep down. Or maybe not evil, but ruthless. There was an episode I must rewatch about her past, but even without that the actress plays ~something deep down going on~ very well.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Wednesday, March 26, 2025 - 11:01 am
I think there are a few eps about Z's past...many secrets of the crew come out unexpectedly!
I'm in season 4...3 & 4 are both heavy on monster of the week eps but with the main themes still very much active.
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Supe news:
I never realized that Dean Winchester was part of the personality of Colter's brother on Tracker. That little bit of Dean is in the form of four little words.
Jensen Ackles Made a Hilarious Reference to Supernatural in His Tracker Season 1 Appearance (& Fans Loved It)
https://www.cbr.com/jensen-ackles-tracker-supernatural-reference/
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, March 26, 2025 - 12:35 pm
I noticed some of those! I thought Jensen was meant to be in a few episodes in Season 2, but it only seems to be that early one.
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