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Kitt
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09-05-2000
| Saturday, June 28, 2025 - 4:00 pm 
Eric Dane is very wooden physically in this, I don’t know if it’s the ALS or an acting choice, but it does seem noticeable, although I also had that in my mind. E3 and I am still conscious of it when he’s on screen, and yes, it is a bit sad.
Oh it’s very strange watching Jensen in this. He’s obviously not the Dean that I love, or the (public) Jensen that I am intrigued by and quite familiar with, but he certainly does look a lot like both of them! I’m glad they didn’t give him a Dean haircut, as that helps, but he swears and I get nervous, lol, as Dean doesn’t swear and Jensen rarely does, as he’s quite careful with public image. After the horror of his dialogue in e1, the character is now much more believable and more of a regular (tv) cop/hero type character and if anything he seems quite normal now. Weird.
(Jared in Walker was very much a mixture of Sam and Jared, so there was no adjustment period for that.)
Farscape… still going slowly due to limited tv time and quite a few other shows on lately, but every few episodes I really want to post about it but it’s too late, and then the next morning I’ve forgotten what I wanted to say! There’s something very intimate about the dialogue between Crichton and anyone, he’s just one of those people and it really draws me in. So I am enjoying it very much, and get scared about their fates just how you said I would, lol. (Puppets, what puppets!?) Excellent show and I am still surprised I barely heard anything about it when it was on.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, June 28, 2025 - 8:00 pm
Let me know when you reach s04!
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Thursday, July 17, 2025 - 3:26 am
From January to June, Supernatural is Number 15 in the Nielsen Rankings of all streaming shows across all networks!!!
I hope those boys get some good residuals!
https://deadline.com/2025/07/nielsen-streaming-first-half-2025-rankings-bluey-supernatural-south-park-1236456896/
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Thursday, July 17, 2025 - 10:06 am
Supernatural is the best show that no one I knew watched when it was airing....or after it ended, except for one fierce Supe-fan(atic) with whom I binged all 328 episodes with.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Thursday, July 17, 2025 - 12:04 pm
I think it got quickly cast as a teen show, as it was on the CW, when really it is an everyone show.
And I bet the press about Jensen has also prompted some people to start watching. Countdown is up to episode six now, and to my totally unbiased eyes  he is the standout star of the show. And after the first episode - where he was given some really hammy lines and must have been told to amp up the "Jack the lad" factor - he's now acting like a slightly Dean-ish version of an action hero and he's pretty good. Still not sure about the writing, but the acting is definitely up to par.
If you're going to binge it all after the finale you'd probably do better than me and be more able to follow the plot.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Friday, July 18, 2025 - 11:55 am
"I think it got quickly cast as a teen show, as it was on the CW, when really it is an everyone show. "
Yes, when it started, teens flocked to it....but remember, it was on for 15 years so by the time it ended those same teens were in their 30s! Original fans grew up with this show....in high school when it began and parents with children when it ended. At some point, I realized that Supe was the only CW show I watched where the characters were actual adults.
I think the fact that it ended on such a high note with a finished story ensured it didn't get the criticism that show finales like "Lost" did. So many shows just get canceled and miss the "longevity boat" that's created by having a great ending that was no less compelling than the premiere episode.
I know the final few seasons, when Supe was on the bubble of renewal, subsequent seasons were okayed one season at a time which carried the possibility of the series ending without a great wrap up finale arc. Had it ended with a cliffhanger, I doubt it would have the popularity it has now! Now it can live indefinitely as a fully realized story.
I am a bit nervous about a season 16 possibility. The finale of the show was perfect as far as I'm concerned. I've seen too many returns/reboots/reimagined efforts to bring back a popular show just fall flat. (The Winchesters...?)
I wouldn't be worried about some kind of crossover miniseries storyline with Supernatural and The Boys or The Umbrella Academy.....or The Walking Dead!
https://www.techadvisor.com/article/2263516/supernatural-season-16-revival.html
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, July 19, 2025 - 12:39 am
Yes, it’s definitely something people can recommend without reservation. The Negan and Maggie show S2 is just now airing here, and I was thinking how excited I was for TWD in the first few seasons, and how now I’m not even sure I would recommend it, at least not without a lot of warnings. Nothing like that with Supe, even those leviathan episodes were mostly good, the only reservation I’d really have is the number of episodes!
I don’t think S16 is happening soon, if ever. The boys confirm they’d be in if something good enough was written, but there never seems to be any semblance of a script or real idea. As much as I’d like more episodes I think the story is over, and probably should remain so.
Yeah, if the Umbrella Academy was still on they could have jumped into a timeline where the boys were still alive and that would have been excellent…. Not quite sure where they’d fit into TWD ;).
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, July 19, 2025 - 11:33 am
"The Negan and Maggie show S2 is just now airing here, and I was thinking how excited I was for TWD in the first few seasons, and how now I’m not even sure I would recommend it, at least not without a lot of warnings."
Ya know, when TWD was first announced I was elated to learn that there was going to be a zombie TV series! When it started, I loved it....even loved FTWD....never missing an episode of either of them.
That excitement has waned a great deal because of so many follow-up not-nearly-as-good shows that don't come close to the original. (It's like eating my Grandmother's homemade chocolate cream pie vs a cheap frozen off-brand version!) I still watch the spinoff shows but not with the great expectations I used to have for TWD. I think I do it more out of loyalty and appreciation for the originals than anything.
I think the only new twist that would excite me would be something like a Supe crossover with the original cast....a twist that will never ever happen.
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Hmmmm....To be honest, after really thinking about that, I realized that should never happen. More than likely, it would just sour my memories of both series rather than add anything worthwhile to either.
I think I'll just rely on my "What if they had done..." TV fantasies rather than wanting an actual return, spinoff, or reboot.
Supe is great....and for me, watching it week by week for 15 years and then binging it five years over just a few months was all I needed.
Not every show (even great ones) need a spinoff, reboot, or prequel. Some of them are just perfect already.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, July 19, 2025 - 4:09 pm
For me, TWD got a bit too shocking around the time of the cannibals, and then the Glenn event, and my mind just opted me out of the obsession I had out of self-preservation. Like you, though, I have watched every show and every spin off out of a sense of loyalty as much as anything. This Negan show is the weakest, I think, but I’ve never been able to forgive him, and never particularly cared for Maggie, so that might be a lot of it. I still enjoy the Darryl show because, well, Darryl.
Might have been funny if a Supe episode was in the TWD world with clues that only TWD fans would see, but no TWD cast. Like in the abandoned Alexandria. Can’t think how they could be there and not be in an alternative world though. Maybe with the slice thing Jack made to different universes. And now I’m thinking of a different show where they used a knife to slice down through the air and go between universes and I can’t think what show it belongs to…
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Jimmer
Board Administrator
08-29-2000
| Saturday, July 19, 2025 - 8:13 pm
I liked Glenn a lot and then when that happened I was like nope I’m done. I just couldn’t watch those stupid characters any more.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Sunday, July 20, 2025 - 1:30 am
They really lost a lot of viewers, I think, by not understanding that people can’t stomach graphic content on screen with people they have grown an attachment to in the way they can the same characters drawn on paper in comic books. That scene with the bath tub with the cannibals, when I realised what was going to happen my body stood itself up and started walking itself away without any conscious decision by my brain, it was just too horrific.
Euuuurgh. Going to have to go and look at Jared Padalecki photos to get the thought out my brain…
Oh, the other show I was thinking of was His Dark Materials, where everyone had an animal familiar. Would have been great to see the boys pop up there each with an animal attached .
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, August 25, 2025 - 8:25 am
This weekend there was a convention in Austin TX, where Jared and Jensen live (or perhaps used to live for Jensen??). 20 years since the first shows aired. Social media is excited Jensen shaved his beard, as he's apparently week 2 of filming Vought Rising.
Anyway, here's them on stage. The boys sure are looking like men these days...
Photo by @bhorton314.bsky.social
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Monday, August 25, 2025 - 11:25 am
Supernatural made the Boys famous...what a great job to have, one you love and that loves you back!
I never had a job like that...just ones that I hated and want to forget or the ones that I tolerated or just didn't totally hate.
I'm sure I was born to be a silver spoon kid but someone screwed up that day.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, August 26, 2025 - 1:19 am
It’s quite remarkable really, I suppose the Star Trek conventions still have the intensity of Supernatural ones, but I can’t think of any others.
And yet at the same time they seem a bit like unknowns (except for now Jensen), before 2022, or whenever that infamous day was when you suggested I watch Supe, I hadn’t heard of Jensen at all, and only knew Jared from the Gilmore Girls. Most of the Star Trek leads would be recognizable by most tv viewers even if they never watched the show.
I kept wondering if Jensen would gradually move away from the Cons, with his increasing fame, but so far he’s sticking around.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Tuesday, August 26, 2025 - 10:30 am
"It’s quite remarkable really, I suppose the Star Trek conventions still have the intensity of Supernatural ones, but I can’t think of any others. "
That's because Supe was just Supe, a single series with a consistent duo of actors, but Star Trek was a lot more prolific according to Mr Google's AI. Star Trek had babies who had babies who had cartoon babies even babies in a timeline change, not counting the dozen movies!
From Google's AI:
There are 12 Star Trek television series, including the animated shows and the newer installments, and 13 feature films as of August 2025. The series cover a wide span of the Star Trek universe, with the movies featuring both the original and next-generation cast, as well as films within the alternate Kelvin Timeline.
Television Series
The Star Trek universe includes the following live-action and animated television series:
Star Trek: The Original Series: (1966–1969)
Star Trek: The Animated Series: (1973–1974)
Star Trek: The Next Generation: (1987–1994)
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: (1993–1999)
Star Trek: Voyager: (1995–2001)
Star Trek: Enterprise: (2001–2005)
Star Trek: Discovery: (2017–Present)
Short Treks: (2018–2020)
Star Trek: Picard: (2020–Present)
Star Trek: Lower Decks: (2020–Present)
Star Trek: Prodigy: (2021–Present)
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds: (2022–Present)"
You're comparing one delicious apple to every other fruit in the world! 
"I hadn’t heard of Jensen at all, and only knew Jared from the Gilmore Girls."
I never knew Jarod from anything but Supe. I did recognize Jensen from something, but didn't know what. After looking it up I discovered he was a guest star on s01 of Dark Angel and then he played that character's twin brother in all of s02.
https://darkangel.fandom.com/wiki/Jensen_Ackles
Of course I'm just assuming you saw DA because it's TV sci-fi.
that fits into the Buffy/Supernatural genre.
Btw, DA also had a very young Michael Weatherly was a regular on DA!
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Tuesday, August 26, 2025 - 10:45 am
"they seem a bit like unknowns"
It just occurred to me. The Sup boys never pop up in Hollywood gossip shows like TMC... they don't get divorces and remarried every few years, have torrid affairs with married celebs, go to rehab every couple of years, or get drunk and pee on the Alamo like Ozzy Osbourne did.
That kind of gossipy "news" keeps a lot of celebs in the public's mind, but I've never heard any salacious stories about the Boys IRL. I just know them as being the perfect duo for a great show that had a storyline that lasted for 15 tears,
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2025 - 1:36 am
Yes, it makes sense Star Trek has the fandom it has, whereas Supernatural is just one exceptional show that struck a chord with so many.
I did not see Dark Angel. I was more into straight(?!) sci-fi in those days, nothing supernatural only science. Seems like I did myself a disservice, but as I’m finding… more left to watch now!
Yep, the only bad press I’ve ever seen was that incident where Jared was drunk and fought with a guy and got arrested. He says he did too many shots with fans, and doesn’t remember it happening, and it did seem like he was on autopilot and thought he was acting in a scene. Other than that, they both seem to have been squeaky clean. I think Jensen in particular is quite protective of his image that way.
Such a lucky break for the show, and everyone, that they clicked like they did right from the audition, and formed this seemingly unbreakable bond.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2025 - 10:43 am
"I did not see Dark Angel. I was more into straight(?!) sci-fi in those days, nothing supernatural only science."
Uh oh...looks like their "Naming TV shows Department" led you astray!
DA wasn't supernatural at all...just sci-fi. It aired in 2000 but was set in the future - 2019! Of course that was their future but for us IRLers it is now in our past.
I asked google what the word "Angel" referred to an AI said this:
"The title "Dark Angel" has a dual meaning that reflects her character and her circumstances:
"Angel": Max is part of the X5 series of genetically enhanced super-soldiers, who were created in a lab and raised to be soldiers and assassins. The designation "Angel" was likely a codename for the subjects of the program.
"Dark": The "dark" part of the title reflects the nature of Max and her fellow escaped super-soldiers. Despite being created to be "perfect" and superior beings, they live in a dystopian, post-apocalyptic world and are hunted by their creators. Their existence is a dark, brutal secret, and they operate in the shadows to survive.
As a "Dark Angel," Max uses her enhanced abilities to act as a vigilante and fight for justice in the corrupt world of 2019 Seattle, all while searching for her lost "siblings". "
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It only lasted 2 seasons, but it's a worth a watching. James Cameron was an executive producer and it won a People's Choice award.
To me, it was in the "genre" of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the look and feel of it) only without Vamps or monsters for conflict, just arrogant scientists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Angel_(American_TV_series)
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2025 - 10:48 am
P.S. I advise to NOT go to the link I put in my post....it's "Spoiler City" for DA!!
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2025 - 12:11 pm
Lol, I thought it had monsters!! Although Dark Angel does sound like a sort of vigilante, so I should have guessed. I think there were so many similar sounding, similar aesthetic CW shows around that time that they all blurred into one, unless of course you happened upon one that caught your eye. The teenagers of the time must have had so much to choose from.
I just googled Jensen on there and he's such a baby face!
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Wednesday, August 27, 2025 - 2:37 pm
" The teenagers of the time must have had so much to choose from."
Why yes, we did!
(...says the guy that watched the original Star Trek in 1966 when he was 15!)
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Thursday, August 28, 2025 - 1:33 am
 I was thinking more the teenagers of the early 2000s… 
How quickly times have changed, I remember then having to choose which three, say, max shows you wanted to watch, and maybe being able to tape what was on the other side. And with all those CSI type shows I loved (in the beginning, before there were too many of them) and survivor and big brother I hardly had time for other shows. And imagine the choices people who had a social life had to make, the horror!!
Probably things were a little different in 1966 too , in ye olden days before I was born… 
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Thursday, August 28, 2025 - 10:34 am
"I was thinking more the teenagers of the early 2000s…"
I knew that! My old brain came up with an added nonsequitur remark and screwed up my joke.....I was just alluding to my actual age after implying I was a teen in 2000.
Damn...this means my comedic career is over, huh? 
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Thursday, August 28, 2025 - 12:39 pm
Nooo! I completely got it. Just teasing you back 
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Thursday, August 28, 2025 - 2:18 pm
Good one, Kitt....ya got me, even if you weren't trying to!
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, September 03, 2025 - 2:46 pm
Sanfran, if you've left watching Countdown with Jensen until you can binge it, the finale aired today (or maybe yesterday to you).
Don't get put off by Jensen's lines in the first episode, they are a bit... contrived... maybe, but from the next episode onwards he gets regular person lines.
I'm not sure about the plot(s) or some of the writing, but it is a pleasure watching Jensen be so Dean-like, with Jensen/Dean mannerisms and humour. It's worthwhile watching it just for that.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, September 13, 2025 - 4:38 am
The 20th anniversary of the pilot episode is today!
A special with the boys at Entertainment Weekly:
https://ew.com/supernatural-reunion-20th-anniversary-jensen-ackles-jared-padalecki-misha-collins-exclusive-11807662
And a video version of the 20 questions part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5-zT3QD_MI
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, September 13, 2025 - 10:31 am
"Sanfran, if you've left watching Countdown with Jensen until you can binge it"
I started it this week. I'll likely watch it all, but not really "binge" it one ep after another. It's okay, but I feel like I've seen it before...as if it came from a Hollywood special task force factory. Jensen is fine in it but this show doesn't really allow much of a range for him. To me, he's like toned down "Dean" but without a "Sammy" or the fun of monster hunting.
I just realized that after watching the first 3 or 4 episodes, I don't even remember any character's name! That's always a sure sign that a show just isn't grabbing me. I had a similar reaction with "Walker". The problem wasn't the actor(s), it was just the overused premises and plots.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, September 13, 2025 - 10:42 am
" QUESTION 6: Name three essentials in any motel room set.
ACKLES: Partitions."
Ya know I don't remember noticing those when I originally watched it...took our binge to get my attention.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, September 13, 2025 - 11:52 am
Countdown never grabbed me, right the way through. It got a lot of positive attention at first, but a lot of the reviews haven't been kind, so I think it will be touch and go whether it will be renewed. It's always telling when a show ends and there isn't a renewal announcement within a few days.
Walker though... I loved that. Jared in it was so needy but tried so hard, it touched all my buttons.
Somewhere in a storage cupboard somewhere will be all those partitions... waiting .
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, September 13, 2025 - 2:29 pm
Hey, there should be a Supernatural Museum! They could display everything from those partitions to Paris Hilton's head!
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Sunday, September 14, 2025 - 3:08 am
I'd certainly visit!
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