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Kitt
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09-05-2000
| Wednesday, May 14, 2025 - 12:06 pm 
Jared and Jensen are so attached to Dean and Sam (obviously they're not the only ones ;)). It's really nice. Not sure how old the clip I saw recently was, but I saw one of someone asking Jensen which Marvel or DC hero he'd like to play, he asked if it could be some other hero and not Marvel or DC, the answer was yes, so he said he'd like to play Dean Winchester. Not sure if I'm holding out hope they do more Supe or not, in case it isn't too good!
Yes, I am still watching Firescape! In two places still which can be confusing, hubby and I are at S2E11 or so together, but I'm also on S1E12 by myself, where I can pay more attention. Life is troubling me too, I have difficulty concentrating unless I really focus, but getting in that state of mind is hard. 
One episode I've just watched was when something pushed them out of their bodies and into the person next to them. Some excellent and very funny acting there! The "blender" sounds even more crazy!
I'm so glad you've enjoyed the rewatch! It is a good distraction, I wish it was a different time and we could both have watched without every else swirling round. I will definitely continue to watch, it will just take time.
US politics just won't go away, can't stop following it even though it's wretched. I don't pay too much attention to UK politics for my own sanity. Turns out though, being with very aging parents is pretty brutal, and just being a middle age woman has its own sucky issues, so double whammy here. Could be worse... could still be in the US and unable to get away from you know who.
Hmmm, I will keep my eye out for 2073, although at the moment here it only seems to be available to buy on Apple, no streaming anywhere else.
Btw, Jensen's new series Countdown starts June 25th on Amazon for you, not sure when I'll get it here. And Jensen, Jared and Misha have filmed the episode of The Boys where they share a scene, despite everything saying S5 won't air until 2026. Can't wait for that.
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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-16-2000
| Wednesday, May 14, 2025 - 2:50 pm
Kitt, here's a little peek just for you. These "alternates" from an alternate dimension are lovely, don'cha think?
Claudia Black becomes Chiana
It actually took me a minute or to realize why "Chiana" seemed "different". Btw, Claudia was great doing Chiana's movements and head tilting.
Rygel becomes D'Argo
Anthony Simcoe becomes Jool
(I think the Jool character shows up in s03)
Anyhow that's just 3 of the alt crew that you'll see somewhere in s04. This alt ep is one I had trouble following because I was so enthralled just staring at the various "blended" crew and doing rewinds to get a better look...while laughing hysterically! 
Yes, the "Freaky Friday" episode (body switching) you mentioned was a hoot, they kept switching so much they had to wear signs saying who they really were....and every switch they had to quickly switch signs again.
I'm think this wasn't too much of a spoiler...after all it's only a comment on the wardrobe without any reference to the plot's Who, Why, How, and WT*, right?
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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-16-2000
| Wednesday, May 14, 2025 - 3:04 pm
Kitt, you said:
"Yes, I am still watching Firescape!"
Be honest...was that a joke, spellcheck, or are you just drunk?
Also wanted to add that the source for the photos above were screenshots from the shows.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Thursday, May 15, 2025 - 1:38 am
Firescape, lol. I wrote it, thought that doesn’t sound right but couldn’t think what else it would be!!
Those photos are amazing! Especially the Rygel one, the puppet and make up team are so talented! I wonder if Claudia Black had to wear that same old ratty wig. Simcoe was great at the Chiana movements on the Freaky Friday episode, they must spend a long time watching each other and getting those things right.
Btw, I think I finally don’t see Rygel as just a puppet anymore, at least unless he travels about, where it’s too distracting not to. But just head shots/conversations I finally forget.
No, not a spoiler , although I haven’t met Jool yet.
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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-16-2000
| Thursday, May 15, 2025 - 11:14 am
"Firescape, lol. I wrote it, thought that doesn’t sound right but couldn’t think what else it would be!!"
"Drunk" it is....Thanks for your honesty. 
"Especially the Rygel one"
The crew were all played with different actors except Rygel. He is a puppet that was played by a different puppet.
" I wonder if Claudia Black had to wear that same old ratty wig."
I believe she did. Every season it got noticeability more haggard and sad.
That reminds me. I discovered I have a gripe about this show. I remember how after the cliffhanger of season 4, it was awhile before they were renewed for a final season of a 2 part miniseries.
The final two eps do wrap up the show and they put to bed a lot of questions and tied up loose ends. However, I didn't recall that the final "season" was obviously a lower budget and/or a rush job and the production values suffered a bit. Chiana had a different, shorter hairstyle (they must have thrown out that dead lab rat she was wearing in the last couple of seasons!) They were also less detailed and new puppets were more puppety.
Lucky you...you still have most of an entire epic story to unfold! I'd be jealous if I hadn't just watched the whole thing!
PS - I just learned from the news that I'm 5 years older than Disneyland! 
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Friday, May 16, 2025 - 1:41 am
Or... 10 years younger than colour tv???
Shame they lowered the budget. Maybe ratings had dropped and that's the only way they got renewal for that last year. I've been amazed right from the start how excellent the make up was, easily equivalent and maybe superior to Star Trek and shows we know have a big budget. Although thinking about it, a lot of it might just be talent - who their make up artists were and how willing the actors were to wake up early and sit in the chair.
I noticed in season 2 Zhaan is showing a lot less skin. In season 1 she must have pretty much had to go in something like a tanning booth every day to get blued all over her chest like that. I guess they needed more time to spray Chiana monochrome.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Friday, May 16, 2025 - 2:18 am
"I've been amazed right from the start how excellent the make up was, easily equivalent and maybe superior to Star Trek and shows we know have a big budget. "
In the miniseries finale season, Rygel is a lot less detailed. His face sometimes looked like green rubber, without any of the texture that gave him more of lifelike appearance. Also his eyebrows that stuck up almost like owl ears became flat against his face without sticking out at all. You saw how delicate the art is on Zhaan....the very detailed designs of various subtle shades of blue and green and gold that overlapped was amazing on her face and head. A lot of that kind of subtle texture/color became a lot more simple and less ornate everywhere in s05.
Still, I don't mean to trash the miniseries ending because the story was still there even with the production flaws I didn't remember noticing originally. Of course I watched the ending the day after I finished season 4 this week. I originally saw s05 more than a year after seeing s04. That would have made the differences a lot less obvious than an immediate comparison.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Friday, May 16, 2025 - 2:35 am
"Or... 10 years younger than colour tv???"
I actually remember when color TV came out. I even remember when the US flag had only 48 stars on it. Hawaii and Alaska didn't become states until I was 9 years old.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Friday, May 16, 2025 - 7:01 am
The miniseries being in 2004, before all the high-def tv, would have probably made a difference on first viewing too.
"I actually remember when color TV came out."
I thought I found that was 1940, but looking again it was the first field test that were in 1940/41, not tvs for consumers. There must be somethings that happened before you were born!  Citizen Kane! Casablanca! There, you're a spring chicken in relative terms!
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Friday, May 16, 2025 - 7:32 am
If anyone reddits... someone saw The French Mistake for the first time  :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Supernatural/comments/1knqdj8/the_french_mistake_is_effing_me_up/
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Friday, May 16, 2025 - 10:26 am
The French Mistake episode was a jewel that never stops shining and making people laugh. I never knew about Misha's tweets making their way out of a TV show's jump from a fictional fake reality into an alternate reality that was creating the fake reality they came from only to end up in reality reality!
Supernatural is/was/always will be magical.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, May 17, 2025 - 12:56 am
That’s for sure. I keep wanting to rewatch the whole series but I’m not sure I could take the emotional upheaval right now, lol, but I might treat myself to that one episode for the sheer delight of it.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, May 17, 2025 - 10:53 am
Ya know....given the connections between the productions and cast of "Supernatural" and "The Boys"....a frenchmistakelike episode could be made for "The Boys".
I'm pretty sure no one would complain or claim "copycat" or "derivative"....they'd probably just laugh at the absurd meta fun!
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, May 17, 2025 - 10:56 am
Kitt wait until retirement before a binge #2...the more you forget before another binge, the more it feels like seeing it for the first time...again.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, May 17, 2025 - 10:58 am
I don't even watch this show and you guys even have me wanting to see "The French Mistake"!
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, May 17, 2025 - 11:04 am
Nada, you'd probably get a kick out of it....but a lot of the humor is how the boys react to being in that irl situation based on their past relationships and shared experiences.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Sunday, May 18, 2025 - 1:08 am
Just watch out, Naja, if you watch it and love it and decide to watch the show there are 15 seasons - 327 episodes - you’ll need to urgently make room for in your life .
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Sunday, May 18, 2025 - 11:36 am
"Also his eyebrows that stuck up almost like owl ears became flat against his face"
I misspoke....it was his moustache that became flat against his face.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Thursday, May 29, 2025 - 12:22 pm
Well, it looks like our Mr Ackles has a main character role in some new TV series called "Countdown". He's a special cop and I suspect he's one of those cops that "doesn't-like-following-the-rules" (although I only think that mostly because almost ALL cop shows use that theme.)
However, he still has some "Dean" in him as evidenced by a very short conversation he has with a woman who sighs and walks away rolling her eyes.
IMDB says it has 13 episodes and it's labeled as a drama/thriller. It also shows that the first ep is July 25.
Looky:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32559610/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_unrel_t_1
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Thursday, May 29, 2025 - 2:25 pm
Even better, it will also be on my Amazon, which not all new US shows are at first! 
I'm actually a bit nervous about it, in case it's not good. I'm sure he'll be charming but these cop shows often get repetitive, and I hope the writing's not weak. Fingers crossed.
I read Vought Rising doesn't start filming until August, so that is a way away, but there's going to be a lot of Jensen over the next year or so.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Thursday, May 29, 2025 - 11:26 pm
"but these cop shows often get repetitive"
i know but it does depend on the show...I've seen all eps of Will Trent and I am totally engaged while watching it. The characters are interesting and diverse....it's always a fun ride.
Also I have watched all eps of Tracker because it's so easy to watch...and to tell you the truth,right this minute I can't remember any particular people he has found. It's sort of a show that you can miss half of it and it still understand the plot because it's a formula that never changes.
This Ackles trailer looks fun but Jensen will still be Jensen...maybe a tad less "teenagery" and not as hung up on babes and burgers as Dean. Or not.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Friday, June 27, 2025 - 2:20 am
I’ve watched the first episode of Countdown. Overall I enjoyed it, not wowed, but it was good enough to want to continue.
I have to say, though, that Jensen is playing a caricature right now, I hope it gets better over the next few episodes, but I suppose right now he’s “likeable rogue” or similar, in a bunch of people who are acting quite naturally.
Hubby complained about the dialogue, but I didn’t notice that.
Anyway, nice to see him in something new. There were three episodes this week, then one a week ending 3rd September.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Friday, June 27, 2025 - 9:43 am
Also, a long and pretty good interview with Jensen, including chat about Supernatural and working with Jared and Misha on The Boys episode:
https://collider.com/jensen-ackles-countdown-supernatural-the-boys-interview/
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Friday, June 27, 2025 - 4:16 pm
Countdown e2 was much better .
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-16-2000
| Saturday, June 28, 2025 - 12:13 pm
I just saw that trailer for Countdown....it immediately made me feel sad. I recently saw Eric Dane on some talk show or something talking about having ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) irl.
The CD trailer looked good so I'll certainly give it a go, but I'll wait until all the eps have aired so I can binge it. I just hope I won't feel sad every time Dane's onscreen.
Jensen surprised me. I didn't even recognize him until that prison fight was over! I guess it was because of the beard and his lack of being all cocky and strutting around acting like he's too cool for school. Seeing him pound his attacker in the face over and over made me see him in a whole other light. I think it was because it seemed a lot more real than seeing him fighting a demon while making insulting cracks at the same time. I was cringing a bit instead of cheering him on.
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So, how's your Farscape binge progressing? What season/episode are you up to now?
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Saturday, June 28, 2025 - 3:48 pm
Eric Dane is very wooden physically in this, I don’t know if it’s the ALS or an acting choice, but it does seem noticeable, although I also had that in my mind. E3 and I am still conscious of it when he’s on screen, and yes, it is a bit sad.
Oh it’s very strange watching Jensen in this. He’s obviously not the Dean that I love, or the (public) Jensen that I am intrigued by and quite familiar with, but he certainly does look a lot like both of them! I’m glad they didn’t give him a Dean haircut, as that helps, but he swears and I get nervous, lol, as Dean doesn’t swear and Jensen rarely does, as he’s quite careful with public image. After the horror of his dialogue in e1, the character is now much more believable and more of a regular (tv) cop/hero type character and if anything he seems quite normal now. Weird.
(Jared in Walker was very much a mixture of Sam and Jared, so there was no adjustment period for that.)
Farscape… still going slowly due to limited tv time and quite a few other shows on lately, but every few episodes I really want to post about it but it’s too late, and then the next morning I’ve forgotten what I wanted to say! There’s something very intimate about the dialogue between Crichton and anyone, he’s just one of those people and it really draws me in. So I am enjoying it very much, and get scared about their fates just how you said I would, lol. (Puppets, what puppets!?) Excellent show and I am still surprised I barely heard anything about it when it was on.
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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-16-2000
| Saturday, June 28, 2025 - 7:47 pm
Let me know when you reach s04!
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