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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, August 03, 2017 - 12:00 pm
Leah was fortunate that her whole family left Scientology with her, but she could have moved on. I admire what she is doing so much!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 10:08 am
This returned last night and I haven't watched my recording. Did anyone else catch it?
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 10:31 am
I have not watched yet; must catch up on DVR.I am interested in knowing if there have been any sightings of David Miscavage's wife, that is so weird.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 10:45 am
Last night was spent mostly with two women who had been sexually abused as children, and apart from making the abuser apologise to cleanse himself, the church did nothing. Although this is a story in the making, I'm getting inpatient for a conclusion. Or at least official charges against the church.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 1:25 pm
Marameko, I suspect his wife is buried on one of those vast properties where they hold these people captive
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 12:07 am
Kitt, that is not going to happen.. Any swift conclusion. The power of this cult is rather immense. I hope this can help bring them down in time. I did watch tonight. So glad they went with the two young women to support them.
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Wowprincess
Member
09-04-2006
| Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 8:09 am
I agree, looking for a quick conclusion isn't going to happen anytime soon. What Leah is doing is chipping away at them bit by bit though. And I really do think it's working.
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Lyn
Member
08-06-2002
| Friday, August 18, 2017 - 6:43 am
What those two women (and countless others children/people) have gone through is horrendous! I find it hard to believe its gone on this long. Tom C and John T Kirstie A etc and their families must be kept far away from the abuses, otherwise they wouldn't be such strong supporters of this dangerous cult After being raised in Scientology, that Leah could start to see the BS and question it is big. Even bigger that she left - taking her whole family with her. Props to her and tons of respect for her fight against Scientology Mike Rinder - For owning all your wrongs, not making excuses, changing yourself so completely, and taking up the fight along side Leah - respect
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, August 27, 2017 - 10:06 am
The more I learn about LRH, the more I think he was a nasty, corrupt, purely evil person. This is not a religion he founded, but a money machine. It's really criminal that they should be tax exempt. The only thing they're worshiping is the accumulation of millions of dollars. Disgusting.
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Sunday, August 27, 2017 - 10:59 am
did all of her family leave, including her parents? That had to be a neat trick seeing that they have every one report on everyone else like in 1984, Hitler youth and Some soviet youth groups.
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Kitkat
Member
08-23-2008
| Sunday, August 27, 2017 - 12:59 pm
Interesting article: Scientology draws dueling petitions involving Leah Remini, the IRS and change.org "Two dueling online petitions have emerged since the Aug. 15 premiere: one calling for the Internal Revenue Service to investigate Scientology's tax exempt status. That one was launched by Jeffrey Augustine, Scientology researcher and husband of former Scientologist Karen de la Carriere, who served aboard the church's ship Apollo with founder L. Ron Hubbard. The other, launched by a teenage Scientologist in India, calls for the cancellation of the series, alleging it is a "hate show" inciting violence." http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/scientology-draws-dueling-petitions-involving-leah-remini-the-irs-and/2335272 Personally, I support the IRS investigation.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, August 28, 2017 - 3:21 am
BJM, I think it's more like a billion dollars.
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Lyn
Member
08-06-2002
| Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:10 am
I'm hoping that in this case the IRS takes them down! They are built on loads of money...let them fall by it
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:32 am
Sadies, yes, Leah's mother left with her. That supposed teenaged Scientologist shouldn't even know about this show! Those celebrity members are monitored. Sadly, it is thought that Travolta may have been using Scientology methods which shut out mainstream medicine with his son and that could have contributed to the tragic death of his son.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:43 am
Oops, should have read first.. They are urging members to attack the show.. Probably without viewing it. I know Leah's mom, husband and young daughter are out. Not aware of other family. But David Miscavige, the leader, has family members who left.. Notably his father and his niece. And his wife has mostly disappeared. That was one of Leah's concerns, when Shelly Miscavige was not at Tom Cruise -Katie Holmes wedding. Leah was good friends with Shelly and filed a missing person report.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Monday, August 28, 2017 - 10:50 am
The IRS tried to investigate Scientology many years ago, but they struck back by having individual members file lawsuits against the IRS, which were smothering them with court cases, lots of manpower, time & money. The IRS finally backed off. Scientology is vicious against anyone they view as a threat. David Miscavage is a madman, too.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, August 28, 2017 - 12:03 pm
In one of the Q&A sessions aired recently, they had Steve Hassan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hassan on the panel. I went to an all day workshop with him, held in conjunction with a professional conference on trauma and dissociation. He was with the Cult Awareness Network then https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_Awareness_Network And had so much knowledge about cults. I remember one on the list was Narconon, part of Scientology. So going to look that up.. I find that CAN is gone and Scientology bought the name and is now posing as them as the NEW CAN. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Cult_Awareness_Network So shady and So typical of Scientology.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, August 28, 2017 - 1:17 pm
Did anyone else hear that celebs like Travolta and Cruise have "Scientology monitors" that live with them?
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Monday, August 28, 2017 - 1:52 pm
I can't think of the show that recently came out about an actor who belonged to a scientology like religion, but the actor reminded me of Tom Cruise. Oh! It's called 'The Arrangement.' the handler to the main guy doesn't live with him but he and another lady from the church have keys to his house. I know it's a show but the similarities to Scientology is there.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 1:33 pm
Managers, nannies, handlers..
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2017 - 1:54 pm
I checked, Leah's sister left before she did, that was one of the problems, she did not want to lose contact with her sister and make her a suppressive enemy.
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Nyeratheart
Member
09-03-2010
| Friday, September 01, 2017 - 6:12 am
I just finished reading Leah's book Troublemaker. It's very enlightening. She details how her mom was introduced to the cult (a boyfriend) and what Leah and her sister went thru growing up in it. she covers a lot of ground right up to her and her family's escape and some of the aftermath. One of the interesting sections (one of many) is about Tom Cruise and how the public Tom is so drastically different from the private Tom. Not a nice person at all. And that he is the be all end all for the Powers that be in the cult. He can do no wrong and gets away with a lot of things that the "common" members are punished for. It's almost as if he was the head of it, though he's not. It's a very interesting book. I actually listened to the audio version with Leah narrating. It was great hearing it in her own voice. I do caution though the language is rough. A lot of f bombs so if that bothers you this may not be the book for you. Otherwise I highly recommend the book, however you choose to read it.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, September 01, 2017 - 7:54 am
That doesn't surprise me about Cruise getting away with everything and not being a nice person at all. I remember hearing how he has a Scientology "tent" set up on every movie set so he can recruit (or try to bully) people to join. I knew he was an ass when he filed for divorce from Nicole Kidman after 9 years and 11 months so he wouldn't get caught up in the "10-year" clause in their pre-nup.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Friday, September 01, 2017 - 8:49 am
I think the real Tom slips out now and then. I've never thought of him the same way after the way he treated Matt Lauer in their interview.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Friday, September 01, 2017 - 11:38 am
Tom is a pampered bully who's used to having his own way. He was terrible to both Matt Lauer and Brook Shields. And Nicole. I'll never forget the image of her crying in the wheelchair when they brought her out of the hospital after she miscarried their baby. And I don't think Tom was even there. Every time they show LRH on this show, it makes my skin crawl. He was truly an evil man. Look how much destruction he's caused in so many lives!
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