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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, October 26, 2017 - 3:32 pm 
I think it was the HBO special I watched a year or so ago that said that the IRS attempted to go after Scientology to remove their tax exempt status, but the leaders ordered the members to sue individual tax collectors. The IRS was so inundated with lawsuits that they finally cried uncle and gave up. This is the way Scientology attacks people.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, October 26, 2017 - 5:06 pm
Sanfran, some cults qualify as religions as well. That doesn't make them legitimate in my view. I don't think legal is the ultimate qualifier of legitimate.
BabyJax: not sure that's exactly correct. The main church administration was housed on the Sea Org for several decades, so it wasn't subject to any country laws for some time.
Individual churches that were located in states were pursued. In response, scientology then committed an espionage campaign that resulted in many Scientologists going to jail, including Hubbard's wife. It also meant Hubbard stayed in hiding for the rest of his life.
The lawsuit campaign was against the IRS itself, hundreds of lawsuits were filed; and individual members were encouraged to file their own as well. Eventually that lead to a *negotiated* settlement in 1993, which resulted in Scientology paying over $12 million in back payroll taxes, and the IRS giving them tax exempt status, and all of the lawsuits were dropped. This was only possible because Hubbard had died and was no longer personally profiting off the "church's" activities.
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Thursday, October 26, 2017 - 7:06 pm
you would be shocked at the groups that claim they qualify for a religious property tax exemption
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Thursday, October 26, 2017 - 8:21 pm
"Sanfran, some cults qualify as religions as well. That doesn't make them legitimate in my view. I don't think legal is the ultimate qualifier of legitimate. "
I have always thought of the word "legitimate" to mean "legal" since they both come from the same root so that confused me.
https://www.google.com/search?q=legitimate&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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There are lots of legitimate religious groups and organizations that are still cruel or harmful or deceitful.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, October 27, 2017 - 6:46 am
If the legal definition doesn’t work, what makes something legitimate? Good question.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Friday, October 27, 2017 - 9:32 am
In standard English, we use the word legitimate to describe a lot of things that have nothing to do with legality/law. Sorry if that confused you.
being exactly as purposed :neither spurious nor false
a legitimate grievance
a legitimate practitioner
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/legitimate
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, November 13, 2017 - 4:18 am
The bonus show last night was great. Leah and Mike had Tony Ortega as a guest. He has been writing and exposing Scientology for the last 20 years. The show was about "propaganda arms."
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, November 13, 2017 - 10:28 am
If an organization is tax exempt, as in a church, mosque, synagogue, or charity, they are not allowed to make huge profits that don't go to their charitable mission.
No way should Scientology qualify.
As shown last night Hubbard stressed the getting of publicity as the top goal in all these auxiliary operations, and making wild unsubstantiated claims that they are helping vast numbers of people, countries, etc.
I was only aware of Narconon until recently.. And that was on the list of cults by the cult awareness network.
Good show.. Yes pay people to smile while holding your leaflets when you could actually be helping people after a disaster!
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Friday, October 26, 2018 - 6:15 pm
Season 3 starts Nov 27.
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Citruscitygal
Member
08-07-2003
| Saturday, October 27, 2018 - 1:14 am
Thank you Naja. Looking forward to it.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 11:14 am
YAY!!!
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Lyn
Member
08-06-2002
| Tuesday, October 30, 2018 - 1:53 pm
I've been wondering when it would come back. Looking forward to how things progressed since last season
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Irsnappy
Member
01-13-2009
| Friday, November 02, 2018 - 2:58 pm
Yipee!!!! Can't wait to see.
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Lyn
Member
08-06-2002
| Monday, November 05, 2018 - 2:01 pm
A per season episode is airing on the 13th that has to do with Jehovah Witnesses/Scientology (2hrs)
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, November 07, 2018 - 7:29 am
Lyn, is it on the same station as Leah Remini's show?
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, November 07, 2018 - 1:17 pm
Lexie, yes, it is on A&E. If you have Leah's show set up to record, your DVR should pick up this one, too. I already checked mine, and it's right there in the future recordings. Don't you love modern technology??? 
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, November 07, 2018 - 1:30 pm
Yes I do BJM. Unfortunately, my cable/DVR only goes five days ahead of the current day (which gives me a case of the sadz).
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, November 08, 2018 - 6:47 am
uuuggghhh... I'm so stupid. I thought it was posted that it was the 23rd. I was going through my DVR future recordings and there it is - because it is on the 13th just as correctly posted.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, November 08, 2018 - 12:14 pm
Yay!!! You found it!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, November 08, 2018 - 1:35 pm
Yeah... I'm so excited!
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Lyn
Member
08-06-2002
| Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:07 am
Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath to End With 2-Hour Special Featuring Danny Masterson Accusers
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 9:25 am
I'll miss this show. I think she's done a lot of good educating people.
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Wowprincess
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - 9:58 am
I'll miss the show as well. But honestly, until Law Enforcement is willing to step up here, I'm not sure how much further she can go.
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