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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 6:14 am 
Thanks, Naja, I'm all set to record it. Should be interesting to watch after learning the back story.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 11:56 am
I did notice Susan doing a bit of that stilted speaking Bette did, a few times. I just noticed because it really brought Bette back to me.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 2:03 pm
I've noticed that when we see Sarandon as Baby Jane, her words are often somewhat short and clipped and she sounds more like the real Bette, especially when she says words like "daddy".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlUnNF-ipE
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 4:01 pm
I disagree Naja, a good actress should be able to manage Bette Davis' voice. Davis was well known for her voice and her eyes. Not necessarily like a Rich Little impression, but still capture the tone, rhythm and cadence. I just don't think sarandon has the talent to do it, I've always thought she was a limited actress. That being said, they have given her a Bette-ish look but so far I don't think she is very Bette. Nevertheless, I am looking forward to watching the other 2 episodes we have recorded.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 4:13 pm
When Joan was talking to Bette about her step-father, I thought she was trying to justify the relationship. Didn't she say he was the only man who ever really loved her? It seemed to me that she'd spent her life being used by everyone, so she was clinging to that relationship as evidence that someone really had loved her once. It was shocking, but kind of sad.
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 6:25 pm
It is nice to see Allison Wright again. I really liked her as Martha on The Americans.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 6:43 pm
What I noticed re Susan Sarandon/Bette Davis voice..she would emphasise the last word in a sentence (to sound like Davis). She does go back and forth with her voice/Davis voice. Still, doesn't take away from her as an actress imo.
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 8:49 pm
I'm wondering if Bette was known for sounding different in person than on screen and if that's why Susan is changing her voice that way
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - 11:08 am
I also have noticed that Susan seems to slip in and out of Bette's clipped speech pattern. I blame the director, ala Carrie Fisher's sometimes British accent in Star Wars. A good director should notice that kind of lapse in continuity. Or maybe he just gave up trying.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - 8:33 pm
I recorded "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane" plus other movies starring the ladies. Thanks for letting us know it was coming on, Naja.
I noticed some of the speech pattern Susan was using, too but I do not care, I love watching her as Bette!
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - 9:14 pm
Panda, I also recorded "Mildred Pierce" that was on before Baby Jane. I haven't seen it in a few years, and I really love that movie.
My fav Bette Davis movie is "All About Eve".
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - 9:24 pm
I think Bette would be disgusted with sarandons' portrayal of her. The viewers may not mind, but Bette would be quite piqued, IMO.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 6:41 am
The two other movies I recorded were "Mildred Pierce" and "All About Eve"! 
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 8:18 am
I watched all about eve for the first time. Sarandon really does look like Bette.
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Scout
Member
01-19-2005
| Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 11:29 am
I just watched "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane", and still feel like the actresses on Feud are doing an amazing job portraying them. I know the speech pattern for Bette Davis isn't exactly right, but sometimes I think I have heard so many people imitating her - that i expect her to sound like that. And she really doesn't.
They were so right about Bette's daughter being awful. She was really really bad in the part. I can't imagine why they used her.
In Feud - on the final beach scene where the director was marveling at how young Bette Davis suddenly looked - he was so dead on. When she went to get ice cream just after her sister reveals the truth about the accident, her acting completely portrayed that sense of a burden lifted and she looked years and years younger.
I feel like that part of her is what Susan Sarandon has been able to capture the best.
The movie still holds up well as a thriller. Maybe a little campy now, but still some genuinely scary moments. When you watch the movie and know the truth about Blanche and the accident, it kind of validates the way Baby Jane actually felt and acted.
The only thing I hated about watching the movie again was I can't get that "I've Written a Letter to Daddy" song out of my head!
Panda - I love both those movies - i definitely think they were the ones that showed them at their best. And Naja - "All About Eve" is my favorite Bette Davis movie as well. She was so amazing and convincing in that part.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 1:38 pm
I think Bette would be disgusted with sarandons' portrayal of her. The viewers may not mind, but Bette would be quite piqued, IMO.
I think Bette would be thrilled that anybody even remembers who she was over 50 years later. I think Sarandon is doing a great job. If she worked too hard on the voice, it would come off as a caricature of Bette and that would be worse.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 1:41 pm
... on the final beach scene where the director was marveling at how young Bette Davis suddenly looked
Scout, I don't think the director was talking about Bette looking younger, but Joan. Joan and Mamacita were apparently using some device on her to pull her skin back and lift the "sag" of her chin. They kept going into her dressing room to tighten it up, cause Joan wanted to look good for her closeups. That's why they had to re-shoot the final scenes, cause Joan looked "too good" for a person who was supposed to be dying.
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Scout
Member
01-19-2005
| Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 2:00 pm
Babyjaxmom- He did say that about Joan, but he also commented about what an amazing actress Bette was when she was doing the dance scene on the beach and how much younger she seemed.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Sunday, March 26, 2017 - 12:15 pm
So I watched Baby Jane the other night and now I can see how good some of the reenacting scenes were! Good job by both ladies.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Sunday, March 26, 2017 - 12:21 pm
FEUD: Bette and JoanVerified account @FeudFX · 2h2 hours ago
Epic stars throw epic shade. #FeudFX continues TONIGHT on @FXNetworks at 10pm.
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Puttergirl
Member
08-11-2000
| Sunday, March 26, 2017 - 6:28 pm
that discussion earlier about Joan's daughter. There was a movie about Joan's children. She adopted them. I'm sure you you remember it... mommies dearest. Somebody asked about her daughters career. She had a role in a soap opera. When she got sick and was hospitalized, Joan replaced her which was hilarious since the Role was obviously for a much younger actress.
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Uncle_ricky
Member
07-02-2007
| Sunday, March 26, 2017 - 9:40 pm
That was "The Secret Storm" on CBS. Joan filled in for Christina for four episodes in October 1968 when she was 60 and Christina was 28. (!!!) This was all included in "Mommie Dearest" but what the film omitted was the name of the soap, which was on the air from 1954 to 1974.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, March 26, 2017 - 9:46 pm
I looked hard for actual video of Joan filling in for her daughter on the soap opera, but only the audio still exists 
BUT, here is an actual photo from the soap opera. Here is Joan filling in for her daughter to play a 24 year old character. OMG!
Photo from
http://www.welovesoaps.net/2008/11/flashback-joan-crawford-takes-daughters.html
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Uncle_ricky
Member
07-02-2007
| Sunday, March 26, 2017 - 11:03 pm
Those of you old enough to remember "What's My Line?" will appreciate this clip of Miss Davis appearing as the mystery guest to promote the release of the film, which had its world premiere on October 31, 1962 - this "What's My Line?" episode aired 12 days later.
http://tinyurl.com/ly7mfdx
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Scout
Member
01-19-2005
| Monday, March 27, 2017 - 11:56 am
Didn't take the panel long to figure out who she was lol.
Poor Robert Aldrich. Thought he had it so bad with the women until Frank Sinatra came along. Guess that's why he ended up teaming with Bette Davis again pretty quickly after in "Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte".
I wish the part of his assistant had been based on an actual character.
Love Mamacita!
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