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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Sunday, November 22, 2015 - 6:40 pm 
I just finished watching Scandal, the finale winter season, and Olivia did not even see her father at the end, nor did she try to shoot him! I believe people might be viewing a different season. This show did show Mellie's filibuster re Planned Parenthood, but not Olivia holding a gun to her father.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Monday, November 23, 2015 - 12:46 am
Muffin, the article I linked to above said Olivia pointed Roman's own gun at him and pulled the trigger in the "winter finale" and that article was dated November 2014. That's when she did actually did it.
"The choice to use protection. NOT the choice to end a living human being's life"
Exactly. And Planned Parenthood offers that protection to women who need it. Take away PP and you take away the very services that allow women to make their choices before they become pregnant.
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Monday, November 23, 2015 - 12:59 pm
Thanks Sanfran, I never clicked on the link. I had assumed that it was this last show that was being discussed.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, November 23, 2015 - 1:37 pm
It's interesting what people enjoy and don't enjoy watching. For example, some viewers disliked Mellie's filibuster for Planned Parenthood but are okay watching when immoral, horrible, self-centered characters lie, cheat, torture people and commit murder, as a regular and ongoing part of the series.
By the way, I still enjoy the show, though Olivia frequently irritates the blazes out of me. 
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-16-2004
| Monday, November 23, 2015 - 9:18 pm
I wish they would get back to the case of the week - I'm so sick of B613 and papa Pope!
With my luck, mama Pope will be coming back soon...gah!
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Tuesday, November 24, 2015 - 4:36 am
me too!!!!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 24, 2015 - 6:54 am
I agree. It's okay to have story arcs but the individual stories add interest and variety.
Olivia seems very unreasonable and selfish. Surely she could tough it out as First Lady for a couple of years. Plus she was practically running the country in the prior episode so she was making a significant contribution. It's hard for me to feel much sympathy for her whereas I can feel some sympathy for the other characters, even as flawed as they are.
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Melfie1222
Member
07-29-2002
| Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 12:49 am
Misspoufy, I did not mention 1 in 3 with a blitheful intent. My intent was to point out that everyone knows at least one woman close to them - a friend, a relative, who has had an abortion. Even though the friends, relatives, don't always know, which was my purpose in writing that. My intent was to try to point out that most likely some of your friends, relatives have had an abortion, and maybe you'd have more empathy if you knew that 'those women' are women you know. I wonder if you'd say to a friend or relative in person, 'you shouldn't have gone to the bedroom or to the back seat'.... if it were a close friend or a close relative instead of one of 'those women'.
NOW back to Scandal. Olivia's selfishness has bothered me for weeks, especially when it comes to Jake. I was hoping he'd stop taking her calls, yay Jake. This is starting to feel like a glorified soap opera with Olivia moving in and out of the White House on a moment's notice and Olivia and Fitz acting like teenagers and shouting and pouting a lot.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 1:19 am
"This is starting to feel like a glorified soap opera..."
This it totally a soap opera!
The president murdered a chief justice and a whole airplane of civilians and started a war to get his girlfriend back. His father raped his wife on their wedding night. Olivia fell in love with Jake, who murdered the Chief of Staff's (Cyrus's) husband just as they adopted a baby. Olivia stole the election to get Fitz elected. The president's son was murdered. The president was shot in the head. Huck, Olivia's friend and employee, slashed a bus load of jurors to death (I forget why...but the First Lady was involved) and Huck has killed countless others. Olivia was kidnapped and held in a fake prison cell in a warehouse for months under orders from the new VP until they gave him a drug that caused him to have a stroke...on the same rug in the same WH office where the previous VP murdered her husband because he was gay. Olivia's father kept her mother secretly captive in an underground cell for 20 years because she was a spy. Cyrus wound up sleeping with a male prostitute who worked for someone who blackmailed him and then Cyrus married him to keep a lid on it all. A secret service agent who worked for Olivia's father is the person who murdered the president's son. The president dumped his First Lady who became a senator and then he moved his mistress (Olivia) into the WH and she became the de facto president because she could manipulate him so easily. Oh yeah...and when Olivia gets upset she searches for and finds the mason jar of moonshine that the First Lady left for her in the presidential bedroom suite.
This is just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head....there is much, much more.
Yes...no doubt about it, this show is truly the soapiest soap opera that ever existed. I don't think there is a single "good guy" in the whole damn show. 
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 7:32 am
That's a brilliant exposition, Sanfran. It's so funny when it's all listed out. I thoroughly enjoyed it and had a silly grin on my face the whole time I was reading it. 
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 7:48 am
great job, sanfran!!! it's too funny reading that list.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 1:27 pm
Excellent job Sanfran......it is amazing how these characters are corrupt...but then this is fantasy.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 1:49 pm
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!
The great thing about Scandal is that each episode is exciting and something happens, but it never felt like a soap opera to me until I looked back at it over time and realized just wacky it has been! When I started that post above, I was about to write maybe 3 or 4 soap opera type points, but then each one reminded me of another and another and another... (I had totally forgotten that Fitz had been shot in the head!)
lol
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Melfie1222
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, November 27, 2015 - 12:21 am
Love it
David Rosen, a rising government attorney, becomes embroiled in helping out some friends with his attorney skills, they have some issues with election rigging and witness torture, you know, that kind of stuff, and need his help... suddenly he's US Attorney General, and now he's getting busy with Vice President Chief of Staff Elizabeth North, wherever, whenever. And he's not a brilliant gift giver. She totally noticed that the bracelet she rejected landed on Vice President Susan Ross's wrist and Susan has such a crush on David. It's ON!
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Thursday, February 25, 2016 - 7:32 pm
I am so confused!!! Why is that man killing people? What is daddy up to? Why is David sleeping with both women???
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Thursday, February 25, 2016 - 7:49 pm
Wow Cyrus is one sick <77>!!!!
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2016 - 5:35 am
On my Sanfran,it is early on a Friday AM here on the East coast. Your overview had my head spinning and recalling all that has happened. Once again last night I got all warm and comfy and fell asleep during "Scandal" knowing that the DVR was cranking away. I can catch up this AM while getting ready for work and I see Cyrus Bean in a hotel room with the former Secret Service agent < the one who killed POTUS's son> in a hotel room with Cyrus. What the heck ? when did they hook up ?
Shonda has some shady folks on Scandal and HTGAWM
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 1:41 am
Oh no! The ex-VP died!
Apparently, he "had a fall"...face down onto the legs of a heavy metal chair...about 18 times...
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, April 09, 2016 - 6:52 am
Lol - That was a nasty fall. Olivia sinks to new lows. How low can this show go? So at this point, dear Lovers of Liberty (sheesh is she annoying!!!) is there anyone left on the show who is worth cheering for?
I still like David and Susan but that is about it. David is weak but he's still got some humanity and Susan is so nice I don't know how she is even there.
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Pjlover
Member
09-12-2010
| Thursday, April 14, 2016 - 10:17 am
Yep, there was a sale on Black Hats this episode. Olivia and Abby both donned one!
I agree Jimmer, no one left to cheer for. That's the main reason I quit watching HTGAWM after only 1 season.
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2016 - 9:21 am
Seriously, how many times do we have to see how Daddy breaks people?
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-16-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2016 - 1:49 pm
I wish someone would take him out! He's worn out his welcome and I'm so sick of him LOL
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2016 - 2:33 pm
I'm tired of Olivia. On again, off again, Jake and Fitz drooling over her every whim. I just fast-forward through any love making scenes at this point. Jake and Olivia talking about him dumping his bride at the altar as the best thing to do without a care in the world about her feelings. It's like she is a mannequin or something. Talk about cold.
The rest of the characters are okay to watch.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2016 - 4:22 pm
This storyline with Poppa Pope is tiring.I want him gone, maybe he will be written out soon .
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2016 - 5:36 pm
I actually winced watching her decimate Jake at the church
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