| Author |
Message |
Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, August 22, 2016 - 7:49 pm 
It's kilometres, so 62 miles in four days would be 16 miles a day, so if he walked only 2mph he'd only have to walk eight hours a day, giving him three sunny hours a day for a siesta/adventure.
So the day/night could be literal, but if it is the Talking Dead guy was wrong.
|
Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Monday, August 22, 2016 - 8:17 pm
I also didnt care for it, after the previews I was expecting more than 1 mans loooooong journey. I never even understood why he left that lady and why he wanted to go to tujiana.
I ESPECIALLY HATED the extrememly gorey dog killings and the fact they kept the carcus in the shot for way longer than needed!!!!!!!!!!
|
Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Monday, August 22, 2016 - 8:27 pm
You're right...I was thinking "3 weeks" but now that I think about it more, I think the general consensus was that Rick was napping for about 6 weeks.
But when I watched season 1, it really seemed to me that their neighborhood was under military control for more than just a week. That's just how I took it at the time, but that certainly isn't "evidence"! 
Anyhow, I never really think about the timeline much except when I'm watching it with a friend and they do something stupid and one of us says "they should know better!" Then we remember it's still really early in the zombie apocalypse and they haven't had enough time to really understand the ins and outs of the situation.
If the producers are going to answer a question instead of just deflecting it, they need to get their facts straight!
|
Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, August 22, 2016 - 10:15 pm
I think about the timeline all the time, in the hope that one day something in it will tie up with my TWD one! My TWD one is getting more difficult though now, in the beginning they used to tell us everything, now they sometimes skip days or don't really make it clear. I can't let it go though ;).
Pamy, the lady was going to find her son's dad, as she thought he should have a chance to be with them. Nick wanted to "be where the dead aren't monsters," as he put it, so he was looking for more communities like Celia's. The lady told him to head North on the highway and he'd find them, which is what he did, ending up in the Colonia outside Tijuana.
|
Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 5:21 am
ahhh ty Kitt. The other thing, when he cam upon all those cars, why not check if any were working?
|
Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 7:14 am
I liked the episode, but to be honest, I watched much of it in FF, since there was no dialogue.
|
Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 8:59 am
LOL!
|
Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 9:17 am
Pamy, That's what I kept thinking...try to see if a car works stupid!!!
|
Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - 10:10 am
He looked like he thought about doing it a couple of times but then didn't. I think he's embracing this middle world he feels like he's in, between the living and the dead where he's neither and both. Walking in itself was an experience of this new way of life and driving would be too "living" of him, and I don't think he'd do that unless he really had to. Or if he becomes re-civilised again by this new group.
|
Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Monday, August 29, 2016 - 8:42 am
Wow, I just can't get into any of these people and the stupidity of them. Yeah I know I'm in,the minority on this thread with this show, but I really don't care if they live or die.
What i hope happens next week....those stupid actions of getting drunk and playing the piano... (oh pleeeeze!) they totally deserve to be eaten up by all those walkers.
Being that not one of these people have any guns, there is no way any of them should live. Unless some human Calvary comes riding in with guns some of, these people shouldn't be alive. And, if they get out of this with what they have, than I will not want to watch, because even in TWD standards, they couldn't all survive.
These characters and the stupidity of them make is a comedy and a lot of ff. If not one of these main characters don't die next week there is no way I'm buying this show.
My rant is over..... Haha 😝🤗
|
Jasper
Moderator
09-14-2000
| Monday, August 29, 2016 - 3:10 pm
Yes their loud behaviour is stupid to me as well, but I remind myself they're like children at this point and don't really know any better. I think they really thought the building was empty just from watching it for a while. They're still on the learning curve.
I think Alicia will start to become a stand out (didn't realize she was on The 100 as well). I think the Colony will become feed soon, did you see how flimsy that fence was?
|
Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, August 29, 2016 - 3:15 pm
Getting drunk and noisy did seem stupid to us, but I think it's another thing where do they actually know what attracts the walkers? And it's easy to forget how sound travels if you're used to there always being noises, which they still are, and you're in what you think of as a closed room.
Having said that, I think the writers/producers should stop doing stuff like this because it's so annoying for the viewers!
(eta: didn't see your post when I started, Jasper!)
|
Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Monday, September 05, 2016 - 3:10 pm
For Talking Dead watchers...
In last night's TD, during the segment called "Inside the Dead", they had a photo of "Baby James' lying on the ground in the barn after being shot.
The text on the screen said:
First box:
"Israel Broussard who played Baby James wore a two part rig for this simulated gunshot wound"
Second Box:
"The first part was a detonation squib for impact; the second part was a syringe for blood flow."
-----
Okay, I had assumed the second rig was for "urine" because he had clearly peed his pants in that photo. (You can only see it before the second box of text appears on the screen.) If both parts of the rig were for blood, then I guess he really peed his pants?
-----
This was a good episode! Lots of action and new characters and parts of it were really suspenseful. Chris seemed to be a bit better than he was when he ran away but now he's apparently embracing the dark side. He was really quick to kill a man just to impress by his peers - the new "bros" which is basically a trio of American college student douche bags with guns who appreciate the lack of law and order in the new zombie apocalypse.
|
Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Monday, September 05, 2016 - 5:15 pm
What bothers me about last nights episode.
Last week,they leave us with a cliffhanger with the drunken Strong and Mom ( I should know her name .....I would if I really cared about these people) surrounded by zombies and no weapons ...... Wth! We just supposed to assume they kicked all those zombies azzes with there bare hands? Come on!
This writers seem,clueless. I mean really, they leave it as a cliffhanger and don't even show us the conclusion. SMH
Even by TWD standards somone would die, and they would show it.
The rest of show may have had more,action, but why did they skip thru that cliffhanger ?
|
Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Monday, September 05, 2016 - 6:48 pm
Sanfran, I was sure the second squib was for urine too! I wondered if someone told them the first part (the two squibs) and they'd noted it down, then later they'd tried to confirm what the two squibs were for and someone guessed blood and the detonation. If they needed two squibs for blood and detonation EVERY gunshot wound would need two squibs.
The Taking Dead guest who was a comedian said Chris is finally with people who think he's cool, so why would he not go along with them... makes sense to me, kids that age want to be cool, look cool to older guys they think are also cool, and they particularly don't want to do what their dad wants them to do. Right now I don't see how they can realistically make Chris choose his dad over the guys, so I'm presuming the guys will eventually meet a horrible end, so Chris can stay with Travis.
Madison and Strand were behind the bar so somewhat protected, but still it would be hard for them to get out unscathed. There could break bottles for weapons, I think they were doing that in the previous shots we saw. I suppose they thought the excitement was not knowing if they got out and then the surprise of them being in that room and able to save Alicia and Elena.
|
Vickie
Member
07-16-2004
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 8:24 am
I was wondering how they would show them get out of that bar scene. As usual when it has to be believable we don't get to see it. I am ok with it as long as the story keeps going I feel like with TWD the show isn't long enough. I view it without commercials maybe that is why it seems so short?? It killed me when Chris told his father they need numbers to keep alive. Travis is like quietly "we had that". I don't think he knows his sons character at all and is learning it as time goes on. It looked like Travis felt his son just killed him.
|
Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 8:27 am
I have missed the last two shows. Is it getting better?
|
Vickie
Member
07-16-2004
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 8:33 am
Terolyn : I think I enjoy the show...They say it still has higher numbers than all the other AMC shows except TWD. I am still getting to know the people in the show and what happens. Last Sundays didn't just stay on one person but was between a couple of them as they are all scattered around. Everyone needs to remember that it is early in the zombie world and these people are still on the learning curve. I don't hate any of the characters as of yet. They are running into all sorts of different people on the way. I say everyone is allowed of course their own opinion of the show. It after all is their opinion. I say watch them then see what you think. The last two shows kind of been spoiled for you somewhat.
|
Jasper
Moderator
09-14-2000
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 9:39 am
Vickie - the preview for next week flashes back to Madison and Strand trapped so I think we will see them get out and how. I can't recall any situation like this in either show where they haven't not shown how a situation is resolved.
I like FTWD, I don't view it with the same eye or emotion that I watch TWD but I think that will come with time and as the characters progress and you get sucked in to their world and situations, discovering the new way of life with them.
|
Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 11:06 am
I think TWD was lucky to find such a appealing character as Rick. Immediately the show started you cared about what happened to him, then they had that amazing episode with Morgan trying to get the courage to put down his turned wife - the emotion was so palpable and it got you really invested in the show so quickly.
Here we have a family who seemed a little disfunctional, the parents seem to be having problems despite him just moving in, an errant son and an annoying daughter. There's just not that hook and it's going to take time for us to care for them.
Nick does it for me, I find him so engaging, and Strand is a good character, but the rest still don't appeal that much.
As for the show though, I really like it, have done all along. It isn't as good as TWD imo yet, but it might become that good as we get more invested in the characters.
|
Vickie
Member
07-16-2004
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 11:17 am
Jasper I don't get previews of the next show as I get my viewing from Amazon. Thanks for the heads up!
|
Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 2:32 pm
On TWD, Rick started out as a hero, practically with a halo over his head and Shane was a hard nosed hero...basically they were good cop and a bad cop, but both were "heroes" because they were leaders and because of their official "protect and serve" training. On FTWD, the main characters are just regular people who have never been in any kind of situation that could even give them an opportunity to become a "hero". They had no idea what they were capable of. Their dynamic was that of a typical blended, dysfunctional family. Period. Much of FTWD is about them adapting in this new insane world....but TWD is now just about their survival because they are fully adapted into the situation.
To me, comparing FTWD to TWD is like comparing "Brothers and Sisters" to "Animal Kingdom"...they're both about California families with their own particular dynamics but they are very different people and the shows are very different. I loved both of those shows, but I couldn't compare them because their characters were such different people. The only thing they have in common is the world they're set in.
I liked FTWD right from the start but I find myself liking it more and more because they are still evolving, unlike the characters in TWD who are who they are...desperate and without any hope for anything but staying alive. Rick has gotten harder when it comes to trusting others but everyone (except maybe Eugene) is pretty much the same as they have been for the past few seasons. Surprisingly, on FTWD, Nick has changed from a punk addict to a much deeper person searching for the meaning of it all instead of just hiding from the world in a narcotic stupor. Even Strand, the con man/salesman extraordinaire, is finding himself caring about people without a debt or an "obligation" being their only bond,...whether he admits or not, he truly cares about his adopted "group". Alicia went from being kind of whiny teenage girl to bad ass woman and survivor! Travis still holds hope for this insanity to be "fixed" and I'm interested to see how long that will last with a son who wants to be part of a roaming "bro" club of predators.
So I have compared the two shows from my own POV, but when I watch one of them I'm not thinking about the other. I just let myself become fully engaged in the one I'm watching instead of comparing every action taken by a FTWD character to Rick or Glenn's actions. It's so enjoyable to watch the show without judging it against another show because the only thing they have in common is the world they're set in.
I'm not surprised at all that FTWD is second only to TWD on AMC because Fear the Walking Dead is a really good show!
|
Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 2:40 pm
I think it was in the trailer for next week shown on TD where I saw the pharmacist guy (where Nick is staying) explain how he was bitten.
Didn't the pharmacist say that a young guy who was a drug addict was mistaken for a walker and he was trying to save the guy after some townspeople beat him and then walkers showed up and it turned into a melee? Seems to me that he established the facts that a human can be mistaken for a walker and he was bitten in the midst of a fight made up of both humans and walkers.
That story has all the necessary ingredients for it to turn out that the pharmacist was actually bitten by a human instead of a walker, right?
|
Vickie
Member
07-16-2004
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 2:48 pm
Sanfran I will have to re-watch that episode...I know they pointed out he was bitten. That would change everything if it was by a human and not a zombie. I don't watch and compare I always feel it ends too soon.
|
Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 3:00 pm
Vickie, I checked and it was in the trailer they showed for next week in the final two minutes of Talking Dead.
I just rewatched it.
The Pharmacist said, "And in this moment, as I was beaten by the living, I was bitten by the dead".
|
|
|
|
