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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, June 13, 2015 - 2:44 pm
I put a spoiler tag around this, but it's not really much of a spoiler. It tells what questions will be answered in the next episode, but not the actual answers.
Spoiler Click below to view spoiler | FWIW, the next episode is supposed to reveal more of why they don't tell the adults and explains how the town was built. I don't know the answers to that, only that the producer said that the next episode would reveal those things. |
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, June 13, 2015 - 3:29 pm
Thanks, Pamy, but *I* hope I'm totally wrong! I love being surprised watching shows like this!
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Melfie1222
Member
07-29-2002
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 12:47 am
I don't quite get it, but that's partly why I'm hooked. Teacher Megan is much more persuasive than scary nurse Pam. It seems like Millennial fantasy... we have to rely on them to secure the fate of the human race, only they are about 2000 years ahead of the rest of us. We already have to listen to just about everyone in real life about how important and super special Millenials are. Oops. Showing my Gen X badge.
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Konamouse
Member
07-15-2001
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 7:48 am
The 2000 year sleep story does not hold up. How did the Sheriff go back in time to collect the Burkes? How did the nurse go back in time to collect the Realtor? Why collect adults without children? Why collect the other FBI agent and give her a job at the toy store? Back in the 2014s the doctor knew exactly who to collect, how to get them, and how to store thousands of people just to be able to wake them (and himself) up at the right time? So that leads my brain to think about time travel (pretty advanced technology) or and the history lesson is not all truth.
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 9:54 am
I have a feeling this will end like Lost,,,lots of unanswered questions
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 11:02 am
"The 2000 year sleep story does not hold up. How did the Sheriff go back in time to collect the Burkes?" I have issues with the 2000 years sleep story, too, but there are logical answers to those particular questions which actually support the Big Nap Story. A friend of mine thinks that those scenes of the Sheriff and Pam in 2014 were simply flashbacks, edited in a way so that they just appeared to be happening concurrently with the goings on in the town of Wayward Pines. They also showed the doctor in 2014 and in Wayward Pines, which also could have just been a flashback. They may have decided to grab Theresa and son, Ben, because they were out looking for Ethan and they knew his family was never going to give up, so they were put in the ice box, too. "How did the nurse go back in time to collect the Realtor?" Maybe Pam was actually collected as a young woman at the same time they nabbed the realtor. The realtor said when he woke up in Wayward Pines, Pam was much older than she was when he met her in the bar "the night before". I think they must've collected both of them at the same time, "froze" them (or whatever) but they just woke up Pam 15-20 years before they woke up the realtor. When the realtor saw her, she was a lot older and she had already been indoctrinated into the program for a decade or more...but for the realtor, it felt like he had just met her the night before.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 12:38 pm
I thought in the description to the kids they said people first started roaming the area, starting to build the place 14 years ago. Say Nurse Ratchett was kind of an army medic for them, she would still have only been in the future 14 years. Isn't she 60ish now? She looked 30ish when in bed with the (dead) realtor. That's too long a time gap.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 12:45 pm
According to Imdb Nurse Pam is 55 in real life (and looks fantastic in some recent photos, not ratchetty at all!) but I can't find the actress who played young Pam (Denise). Perhaps the real Pam did it with make up and effects. Maybe the years work after all.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 1:26 pm
I thought they never really showed a good shot of Pam's face in the flashback to the night the realtor met her. I remember seeing a lot of the back of her head and her long thick hair, but her face was never clearly visible until he woke up in Wayward Pines and saw her much older. I guess I could've glanced away for a second and missed it but I just figured they didn't show her young face very clearly on purpose so we'd be surprised when we learned who it was.
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Kitt
Member
09-05-2000
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 1:36 pm
Yes, I think I just assumed she was a similar age to (or a bit younger than) Justin Kirk because that's usually the way it works on tv. Although looking up Justin Kirk he's 45 so my estimate was way low. She could have had an appropriate growth, having been taken at 45 and grown to 58 or so in the last 12-14 years in the new time.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 1:37 pm
Kitt, I went back and re-watched that scene of Realtor guy meeting "Denise" at the bar....they never even showed a tiny glimpse of her face. It was ALL back-of-the-head shots until Realtor guy woke up in WP and older Pam turned around and looked at him. ---- edited to add - Oh yeah...and when I saw Pam's face when she turned around and looked at Realtor guy, she looked younger than I remembered her in that scene. I think Realtor guy had figured he'd been there about 8 years(?) so at that moment Pam would have been that much younger than we see her now.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 2:16 pm
This show is based on books, yes, so I assume the books came to some kind of reasonable conclusion. I'm hoping I'm not deluding myself in thinking the show will too?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 2:57 pm
The producer, in interviews, has said it will be resolved in the tenth episode. That said, he also says there are certainly ways they could do more shows, building on the first ten episodes.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 4:48 pm
Heads up! NO new episode tonight!....we have another week to wait.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 5:01 pm
Nooooooo......
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 5:07 pm
What?!?!?!? Thanks though Sanfran for letting us know.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Friday, June 26, 2015 - 9:11 pm
Whatever makeup they used to make evil Nurse Pam look 15 years younger in last night's episode, I want some. Wow!
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Saturday, June 27, 2015 - 8:27 am
I think she was digitally enhanced, if you freeze frame you can see her skin looks like photoshop airbrush. They did a good job though Im kinda bored with this show
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Saturday, June 27, 2015 - 9:19 am
Yep, digitally enhanced. I'm not sure I'm bored with it yet, but I'm not fully excited about it any more.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, June 27, 2015 - 9:43 am
I'm having trouble buying the notion that a giant underground warehouse full of supplies could last 2,000 years and still be like new.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, June 27, 2015 - 11:18 am
The logistics don't bother me as much as the idea that the "first wave" all killed themselves, so that's their rationale for not telling the "second wave" of adults about the truth of where/when they are.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, June 27, 2015 - 12:24 pm
SFJF, I had the same issues with the book, but if you can put those doubts aside, it's still a fun story. Makes you think about what it would be like to live 2000 years in the future in a town of the last surviving humans on earth.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Saturday, June 27, 2015 - 1:12 pm
Yes, both are troubling to me. The supplies are like new. I can't even keep a pint of ice cream in my freezer for a month without it crystalizing. How'd they do it? LOL. And yes, all the adults killing themselves instead of just trying to live. IS their life that bad? They are in a little town with other people, pioneers. The human spirit to survive is stronger than that I believe. That notion goes against human nature imo.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, June 27, 2015 - 1:48 pm
Yeah, Brenda, I can suspend belief for the materials and building the town... not so easy to believe that the *entire* first wave committed suicide, children and all. Kind of ruined it for me.
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Spunky
Member
10-07-2001
| Sunday, June 28, 2015 - 12:28 pm
What a disappointment, the more I watch of this show the more I see it's too 'idiotic' to waste more of time watching it... this is another one that bites the dust for me.
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