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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 10:39 pm 
If Teresa was a problem from the beginning of the show, then the current alleged problems might of been her, but the problems revolving around Teresa began only after Melissa and Kathy joined the show, and during a time when she was amidst a personal financial crisis.
Teresa was angry that Melissa and Kathy didn't tell her they were going to be on the show, she reacted, badly at some points, but she has taken responsibility for what she has said, whereas the others make more claims about Teresa.
What I saw was Teresa speaking of the lines in her book that were twisted into a serious issue, when they were jokes from previous events or interactions with the people she spoke of. Her friends and family went after her livelihood, she spoke up.
Everyone is human, everyone makes mistakes, but ganging up on someone, that's just not okay, regardless of what the claims that they've said or done are.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 11:01 pm
There are only two things in the entire state of New Jersey: rats and snakes. Caroline is a snake and Theresa is a rat.
The other housewives are obeying the laws of nature by letting the snake eat the rat.
If Danielle she ever saw Theresa in a desert, dying of thirst, she would not stop to give her a sip of water and that she'd like to see the vultures get her.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 12:44 am
I think Melissa is the big influence now, not Caroline, although I can see Melissa letting Caroline think she is. But if anything, I would say Bravo TV is the snake, and all the housewives are the rat.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 2:43 am
Ha ha ha Grooch! You did Susan from Survivor well :-)
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 3:27 am
Teresa has to stay on the show! Where else will we hear things like "calm and cool as a whistle" or "There would be like a million um ingredientses…like cumin (pronounced "come-in")"?
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 8:15 am
LOL on the whistle thing...I guess Theresa did not learn the proper expression when Andy brought it to her attention previously.
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 1:05 pm
It was never about the Italian remark, it was about the underhanded sneaky insults towards the rest of us followed by an insincere apology
From Caroline's Blog
http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-3/blogs/caroline-manzo/the-camera-doesnt-lie?page=0,4&Jersey%2FThickerThanWater=1&Matchmaker%2FDallasSiteTakeover=1
That sums up Teresa this whole season! (from my viewpoint)
ETA: regarding Dina
Teresa claims that the biggest hurt of all is watching her parents deal with the pain of their children fighting while the nation watches. So my question is this -- Teresa knew how important it was to me to keep the Dina issue hidden, but tried numerous times throughout the season and through her blogs and interviews to reveal it. She finally had her moment at the reunion. Did she think I would deny it? Congratulations, Teresa, the only thing you succeeded in doing was hurting my parents.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 2:32 pm
There are people who, when pushed against a wall, push back, Teresa seems to be one of those people. If Caroline didn't want anyone to know Dina was not speaking to her, then she should never have said anything about Teresa and her brother. Did Caroline think Teresa would just take it? Caroline bit Teresa and she bit back, now Caroline is whining about it, when she should have called Dina in private, tried to make amends and fix the problems, whatever they are, but blogging about Teresa doesn't do that. And wouldn't Caroline's parent's have been happy if she had.
A few excerpts from "Fabulicious":
http://www.teresagiudice.com/excerpts/
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 2:44 pm
Caroline and her thick as thieves fambly have been snarking and eye rolling all season long. And to say she was never really friends with Teresa NOW, after faking it for the cameras all along shows me what kind of person she actually is. I like it when Teresa fights back and doesn't let Caroline rule the reunion show like she's tried to do all along.
If Caroline left the show, no big deal. If Teresa leaves, the show will be cancelled after one season, mark my word
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 2:47 pm
Sorry, too slow, here is the rest from my above post.
A few excerpts from "Fabulicious":
http://www.teresagiudice.com/excerpts/
Was this why Caroline claims she is deeply hurt?
Excerpt:
Giudice Girls Gone Wild
If you just thought about a certain practically pornographic video series, then shame on you! This is a family cookbook! Unlike some of the other “Housewives,” I do not condone young girls stripping to bring in business to a car wash, old ladies in hot pants climbing up a pole to bring their sexy back, or videotaping yourself in any state of undress at any time. I’m old-school. I did not live with Joe until we got married. I do my own child-raising, cleaning, and of course, cooking. But my girls are dying to take over this cookbook, and I promised them at least one chapter, so here we go . . .
ETA: I am hoping Teresa does leave, but gets her own cooking show.
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 3:57 pm
I don't see how the excerpt above could be seen as a "joke".
I havent read the blogs or anything, waiting to see the whole reunion before I do. I think Caroline and Jac were shown often trying to get Tre to let things go as far as the family feud and that just wasn't going to happen. Were they shown being snarky and such as well? yes.
As far as bringing Dina into a conversation, this is how I see it. Just as Tre told Danielle not to bring her family (that wasn't on the show at the time) into the conversation, the same should be considered as far as bringing Dina who is no longer on the show into conversation.
I think I have found Tre's "tell" when she is lying... her voice goes to that high pitch.
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Roblover
Member
05-17-2011
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 4:37 pm
Just because you start out liking someone doesn't mean that you are obligated to like them forever. I still do not believe in telling secrets just because you are no longer friends with someone.
I admire Dina for leaving this undignified show. The whole franchise has just about played itself out, hasn't it? How are they going to keep "upping" the drama? Will one of them run over one of the others over with a car next season? I mean really, where to go from here? The novelty is just about over for me and I will surprise myself if I watch Season 4.
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Fayc
Member
01-16-2010
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 6:38 pm
I said it before and I will say it again.
These women (All Of Them) make me sad. Of course the only exciting thing I do is bowl on Wednesday with my family, so maybe I'm just too old and too something to enjoy them.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 6:50 pm
People tell what they think are jokes all the time, some people get them, some people don't, which is what I think is happening with Teresa's book, particularly when they are taken out of context, but for Caroline to presume, or make a claim that, Teresa was coming from a place of hate, I find disingenuous. I don't see where anything Teresa wrote would be considered upsetting. The bigger question is, why would Caroline presume Teresa came from a place of hate? It's been out for months and not a word from anyone, not even readers, but all of a sudden there's a huge issue. Why?
You cannot ask of someone what you are not willing to do yourself. What reasons would motivate Caroline to make a comment about Teresa's brother, knowing that it would hurt her?
I agree, people don't remain friends forever, but in Caroline's case, for the past two years she said Teresa was her friend, yet at the reunion show she said she never liked her. So, which is the truth, then, nor now?
I think you're right, these shows seem to have played themselves out. I don't plan to watch anymore either, it's not worth it.
ETA: You're right Fay, sad is the word.
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Fayc
Member
01-16-2010
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 4:42 am
hahahaha, just remembered what the something is--- boring, that only took 13 hrs. A new record for me. No wonder I watch these shows, I forget how terrible they are from one week to the next.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 6:43 am
I don't recall Caroline saying she never liked Teresa. I thought she said at the reunion that a couple of years ago she was warned about Teresa.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 7:02 am
Thank you Lexie...............I don't think she said that either; she was however warned.
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Fayc
Member
01-16-2010
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 7:34 am
I think you are right Lexie, they have replayed the reunion several times but I haven't had the heart to watch it. It wasn't their words so much as it was the hate and anger in their eyes, not their faces, their faces didn't move.If looks could have killed they would all be guilty of murder.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 9:13 am
Fayc, my take on that (albeit probably an unpopular one) is I think they were shocked and numbed by Teresa's lies. I don't think Caroline could believe what was coming out of Teresa's mouth. And I absolutely believe both Caroline and Jacqueline when they say that Teresa told them prior to filming not to be friends with Melissa and Kathy. Teresa's jealousy level of both of them is off-the-chart. I thought Kathy's eyes were going to roll clean out of the sockets when Teresa made the comment that Kathy didn't even consider going into business until Teresa came out with her cookbook. How would Teresa know that? Teresa had nothing to do with Kathy's family for quite a long time.
And I will say it again for the umpteenth time (as I have been saying all season), the root of all these problems are Teresa and her alcoholic husband, Juicy Joe. To believe Teresa is telling the truth, that would mean that Melissa, Joe, Kathy, Rich, Caroline, Lauren, Albie, Christopher, Jacqueline and Chris are all lying about Teresa. Also, Caroline tried many times to get Teresa to move on about the whole thing and Teresa wouldn't do it.
Another example - when Andy asked Teresa when is the deadline for them to pay the money back to the ex-partner and she said she didn't know (and Andy told her she needed to find out soon). Trust me... when you are ordered by a federal judge to pay back money you defrauded, or you will face prison time for fraud - they tell you the deadline when the money is due!!! Teresa and Juicy know exactly when that money is due or he's facing prison time. Nuh-uh... I ain't buying that everyone is lying except for Teresa.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 10:06 am
Preach Lexie Preach !!!! Is there any validd reason for this show to continue with this particular group of women ? Talk about a train wreck.
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Fayc
Member
01-16-2010
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 10:16 am
well said Lexie, well said.
p.s. If I ever need a lawyer, do you work for free?
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 10:44 am
 @ Marameko and Fayc
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Fayc
Member
01-16-2010
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 12:13 pm
Of course Lexie IF you tell anyone where I get my botox our friendship is over forever.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 12:23 pm
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Fayc
Member
01-16-2010
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 12:25 pm
Never mind, I don't have botox I'm just getting old so I think it rigor mortis, Wonder if some of the HW have the same problem.
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