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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, December 01, 2015 - 1:33 pm 
Starting a thread for the upcoming new season starting Monday January 4th at 9:00 PM. Dolvett Quince and Jen Widerstrom are the trainers and Bob Harper is hosting.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Tuesday, December 01, 2015 - 11:35 am
The new season has been announced:
http://thefutoncritic.com/news/2015/12/01/an-all-new-the-biggest-loser-returns-january-4-with-a-new-host-theme-logo-gym-and-format-and-eight-compelling-contestant-teams-of-two-909113/20151201nbc02/
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Jbw
Member
08-14-2006
| Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 4:24 pm
Richard Hatch, the winner of season 1 of Survivor is one of the contestants this season:
http://www.nbc.com/the-biggest-loser/contestants/season-17/richard-hatch
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Friday, January 01, 2016 - 4:00 am
Hope they don't make things too TAXING for Mr. Hatch
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Carolinagirl
Member
05-07-2011
| Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 2:22 pm
I'm slightly disturbed that a quarter (4 of 16) are from North Carolina and a fifth attended college here. I guess Southern food will really kill you.
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 3:35 pm
LOL KL!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 3:51 pm
I just hope he keeps his clothing on. And doesn't get an opportunity to manipulate things his way. In other words I foolishly hope to see that he is there for more than winning..
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Jag2000
Member
07-01-2009
| Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 4:45 pm
There is a new show starting on 1/19 Tues.@10:00 pm on A&E called "Fit to Fat to Fit". It's about the trainer gains weight and loses it along with his contestant(s).
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 5:40 pm
And another I think called "My Diet is Better than Yours" with Shaun T. Starting Thursday. 
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 2:04 am
I fear some of my favorite shows are buried deep here these days, but it was interesting..
Hard to discuss without the faces, but Bob is the host but seems more active in coaching (not physically but pep talk wise.
Before they went into the new gym the teams were chosen by the coaches (they all came in in pairs, except Richard Hatch who was paired up with a woman from season 3? of American Idol who gains weight on the show after her father died.) So Jen got to choose first and they chose pairs.
Then they went on treadmills and Bob tempted them with money to quit but no one did.
They competed .. each team had to haul bags of money and when they moved them all, their team ladder was lowered to the ground and then one of a pair had to climb the ladder.. it looked like at least three stories straight up. Richard started for Team Dolvett and one of a pair of twins (or brothers) started later for Team Jen. He was moving faster and catching up to Richard but then he "fell" (he was in a harness. Oddly they just let him fall halfway and start from there.
Richard kept going but the other guy fell again so Richard was up. Or maybe it was the other twin but anyway Richard's partner was climbing and the other guy "fell" and this time they just lowered him to the ground.
Richard and partner had a temptation. They could take $40000 for themselves OR get an 8 pound advantage for their team. They were tempted but took the 8 pound advantage.
The weigh in was in pairs, one from each team, at first it looked like they were trying to pair them up with equal expectations but then they had a team of an aunt and niece on Team Dolvett and each went up against one of the twins, who crushed the weight loss.
So gradually, Jen's team went way ahead of Dolvett's, despite the 8 pounds.
Richard and another big guy on Dolvett's team didn't lose so much while the twins lost 24 pounds each.
The Aunt and Niece were the bottom two and the Niece was sent home. She continued to work at home and was looking good.
They got gym memberships so that when they do go home they can keep working out. The house and they gym look really nice and modern this year.
And Richard is definitely not playing the villain at this point.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-24-2003
| Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 5:43 am
Richard Hatch was paired with Erin Willett from season 2 of The Voice.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, January 11, 2016 - 3:29 pm
This is on again tonight. I always have mixed feelings about this show. Some of the extreme exercising they do is clearly not a healthy approach to fitness and weight loss. However, I do find some aspects of the show interesting and even inspirational.
Although I liked Alison, I think Bob is doing a surprisingly good job as host. I don't miss Jillian at all.
I like Rich's attitude so far.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-24-2003
| Monday, January 11, 2016 - 10:17 pm
I usually have it on, but usually don't pay much attention. "Chef" Lorena Garcia was giving food / cooking tips tonight. Few years ago she and Bobby Flay were judges on flop TV show America's Next Greatest Restaurant. Those judges were also flops. Cannot tolerate the two of them. Didn't know who she was prior to that show. Don't remember Steve Ells so show didn't do much for him either.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 3:29 am
Kind of a trainwreck. Dolvett shouldn't have allowed Jen to have 4 men vs his 2, plus he had a couple of weaker female teams.
and the team really read him the riot act and he admitted he needed to train them as a team but something dropped out with the food truck comp. I don't blame them for losing the comp but most of them were making horrible choices when they had to eat from the food truck
The chef was annoying.
I really really don't like the temptations. They play games with these lives. They need to learn how to eat and not be forced back into food that could grab and keep them.
I did like the part where the coach could take one temptation for their team and they did it.
I don't miss Jillian. Bob is doing fine. Not a particular fan of either coach.
I also think that BOB is still competing and is sort of lording it over Dolvett, still.
Yay for Richard... I hope this catches him on fire.
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 9:59 am
The point of making them eat the junk food is to make them realize how bad it is for them, so they will not go back to eating it in the real world.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 11:03 am
I have to admit I don't like them forcing junk food on them either. Psychological studies show that giving in to temptation *reduces* your ability to withstand it in the future.
If they were really trying to help them, they would force them to choose, so they could make the right choice and thus enforce their ability to choose correctly in the future.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 12:11 pm
Vsmart, but as one who has worked hard and LOST weight, I know that if you are avoiding certain foods, all it takes is to just try it once and maybe you can walk away and maybe not.
When you are trying to eat healthy most of the world seems to take great pleasure in trying to lure you into eating. Even the nicest people will often joke about you getting too thin or losing too fast and take seeming delight in basically sabotaging the effort.
Of course you have to be responsible and in time you have to be able to cope without support but these people have just started and from week one they have temptations and in week two they have now forced some of them into eating basically food porn in that competition where it was based more on speed and luck and then forced an entire team to eat from a taco truck and from what we saw they were not counselled in HOW to safely eat from a food truck.. ditch the tortilla, eat mostly salad and veggies with just a bit of the leanest meat and no fatty dressing.
These people, as the doctor so dramatically points out, are at RISK of death so playing these games, as they do more and more each year, is simply cruel and for our "entertainment" and I don't find that part, and never have found that part, the least bit entertaining.
In the past they have at least had choices.
One team this year has more men, younger men, stronger men, so who was going to be able to pull that truck?
I get the feeling they don't want Dolvett to win, maybe?
So I get your point but at this point, I don't think it is serving any of them. I just don't think the producers are doing this at the right time and place and there is no reason to force them to EAT this stuff.. just penalize in some other way for supposedly not knowing which dish is worse. And give them information on the portion size as they used to do in the past.
I know it is just a tv show but these are real people who seriously need the tools to be able to change.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 12:13 pm
Dolvett picked his team. I wondered at the start if they would pick the male teams first, but he did not, so Jen did.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 12:58 pm
By the way, on the junk food issue. These people have food addictions, similar to alcohol addiction, they use food to feel better or to suppress uncomfortable emotions.
No one would even THINK of forcing a drink on someone in an alcohol or drug rehab program. It just wouldn't happen.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 1:05 pm
Exactly.
Of course food is more difficult to avoid, since we must eat.
I think Jen had first pick, but Dolvett still didn't pick as well, it seemed to me.
I think Bob still feels competitive with Dolvett.
Maybe it is like Dolvett is the one to be shamed this season, just for drama, and at the expense of people on his team.
Jillian Michaels got that treatment when they deemed the caffeine in her supplements to be illegal and it affected her team, yet the other trainers were loading up their teams on coffee with caffeine.
Jillian says when her daughter came home from school and said people were calling mommy a cheater, that was it for her and Biggest Loser.
At least his team gets it that this early they needed to keep the stronger person to stay for the team.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 9:08 am
I think that some of the temptation challenges are okay because they don't have to take the temptation and they are going to face temptation in their regular day to day life so it is a mental strength building exercise. However, forcing them to eat food when they lose a contest seems pretty mean to me and of no benefit.
I can't imagine why they would choose one of the trainers to be shamed. How is Dolvett being shamed?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 10:42 am
Of course food is more difficult to avoid, since we must eat.
I've never understood this comparison. We have to drink too. In both cases, we have to make healthier choices. Salad over chocolate cake; water or juice (club soda if you're out) over alcohol.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 10:43 am
Jimmer, I just think this issue of eat this junk food or risk losing your chance to stay here and learn how to get better is an unfair choice.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 11:36 am
It isn't much of a choice, but the most recent temptation challenges have forced people to eat crap.
Well of course you have to hydrate but that could come from foods, and most people have access to water without being forced into buying alcohol or drugs.
But no addiction is easy, I agree.
For me, food is necessary, alcohol is not, so when I found myself doing stupid and dangerous things on alcohol, I stopped.
People seem to understand better if you say you don't want a drink than you don't want to eat that horribly unhealthy food they are pushing, but of course friends are drinking buddies and you hang out at a bar, that makes it difficult. I had success just avoiding drinking but less with food.
Jimmer, it just seems like they are editing to shame Dolvett this season.
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 12:25 pm
Even Chris Powell makes his contestants have a gorge day once a week to prevent the body from slowing down and it makes it easier to avoid temptation the rest of the week. Hatch ate the most tacos, but lost alot. Maybe he had them without the cheese sauce and sour cream.
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