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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 2:05 am 
I think they are including speaking engagements in that amount!
They did get a lot of those.
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 11:04 am
Lots of working-age people in that family. GET A JOB!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 7:12 pm
I doubt they are in need of donations. I think they just want them. Easy money begging on the internet. Makes me sick thinking of some people who really cannot afford it donating to them just because they believe that what they've seen on tv in their show not realizing what a terrible cult they belong to. Also makes me sick they are teaching their children that it is ok to beg on the internet when surely they must have millions and millions of dollars.
I saw the donate button on a screenshot of their youtube channel. So I believe that part of the above article to be true. I read elsewhere about Jill and Derrick asking for donations for their mission trip even though they would not say where they were going, for how long, or any other details. I did not actually see it for myself though.
I've read that making a donation to them goes through their own payment processing company, so they make a profit off processing those donation payments. ugh! I read it on Free Jinger and there saw what seemed to be legit public records showing Jim Bob as the owner of that payment processing co., so, I believe it to be true.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Monday, August 03, 2015 - 5:32 am
Missionaries, for as long as I can remember have had to get support from the public…mostly like believers. In our church when they are going into heavily Muslim or other Christian hating countries it is never advertised where they are going to be. Too dangerous.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, August 03, 2015 - 8:50 am
Christian hating countries? Like Muslim hating countries?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, August 03, 2015 - 8:51 am
I was going to post what Ophiliasgrandma said, only she said it much better. Hasn't Derek worked as a missionary in the past (indeed wasn't he doing so when he and Jill first met?)?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, August 03, 2015 - 1:09 pm
I imagine people who want to support missionaries are supporting the MISSION and the people on the mission, not a family at home with two score and more to support. They created them, they should support them.
And not be considered a church.. have a feeling that is one way to wash donations..
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Monday, August 03, 2015 - 2:10 pm
There are countries where Christians are not allowed in as missionaries. Mongolia, China, and Japan are some that are not considered Muslim countries as well as countries such as Iran, Iraq, Saudia Arabia and others that are. Missionaries don't go just to preach, although that's one thing they can do, they often go for humanitarian reasons, building schools and hospitals, medical care and other things. We have a friend who is a missionary to Japan, we can not mention his name because of fear for his life. We have a missionary friend in Mongolia who is there as an English teacher (that's what it says on his visa) who not only teaches English, but also teaches about God.
Most missionaries are not blessed to have an International Mission Board who pays them a wage, pays for their education and such. Most missionaries have to fund their work on their own, depending upon supporting churches and individuals for their daily needs. We have a missionary friend in Mexico who goes into areas where there are no churches other than Catholic. He, his wife, and children build churches from nothing using the support given to them by individuals and supporting churches.
That article is from a gossip rag and should not be given much credence. Jill and Derek HAVE said, now that they are on the mission field, where they are serving. They have not BEGGED for support but simply said that if people were interested in supporting them they would welcome that.
When you are supporting a missionary you ARE supporting the mission work. They live basic, rudimentary lives. Our Mexico mission friends live IN the church they're building, with their four children. They have no conveniences, most of the time it's a dirt floor. Don't assume they live a life of luxury on what is given to them. They don't.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Monday, August 03, 2015 - 2:12 pm
Well said, MissP!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, August 03, 2015 - 2:31 pm
Even people who go via IMB are expected to seek outside funding at times. I have had friends in parts of Africa and especially the Middle East that even have to change their facebook information to be more generic so it can't be used against them.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, August 03, 2015 - 4:49 pm
The original article was on OK Weekly, and they are fairly reputable. But even the original is kind of thin on proof.
The actual article claim was that they will lose $25 million TOTAL, not anually.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Wednesday, August 05, 2015 - 5:37 am
Jill, Derrick and Israel are in El Salvador according to People magazine.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Wednesday, August 05, 2015 - 8:35 am
Another article from People Magazine.
http://www.people.com/article/josiah-duggar-ends-courtship-marjorie-jackson
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 6:08 am
FROM PEOPLE MAGAZINE
08/06/2015 AT 01:00 AM EDT
The cancellation of 19 Kids and Counting has cost the Discovery Channel $19 million, their Chief Financial Officer has revealed.
The Wrap reports that Discovery CFO Andrew Warren revealed details of the company's loss in a conference call on Wednesday morning.
Warren blamed "higher restricting and other charges this year of $19 million, primarily due to content impairment charges of canceling TLC's 19 Kids and Counting.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 6:35 am
We need a link for that article please or we'll have to remove it. Thanks.
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 7:24 am
http://www.people.com/article/19-kids-and-counting-cancellation-loses-discovery-millions
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 7:30 am
Thanks! 
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Friday, August 07, 2015 - 5:50 am
Thanks, MissP, for taking care of my error. I thought as long as I said where I got the article that would suffice. Guess not.
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Pippin04
Member
10-26-2007
| Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 4:15 pm
oooops, that is not good.
http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-....
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 4:54 pm
If true ... Wow.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 4:55 pm
Okay, now I think he's a creep!
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 6:24 pm
There is no proof this is him, just a lot of insinuations. The media is set to persecute these people. You may not like their beliefs but no one deserves to gave their family destroyed by hate.
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Dovez
Member
08-27-2005
| Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 6:29 pm
I don't think anybody hates the Duggers. I just think that they find them hypocritical.
At least that is the way I view them. And I think some of the evidence shown in this article is rather convincing.
I could be wrong.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 6:40 pm
Honestly, I have defended Josh all along, anyone can go back and read my posts and see.
However, I always said that my defense was *unless* there is evidence of continued deviant behavior. To me, this is evidence. I feel little sympathy for people who used Ashley Madison and were exposed. The only possible exception is people whose spouses are permanently disabled, or who have an open relationship - and the latter won't care if they are exposed.
There are a LOT of people who are going to come to light that used this website. No reason to believe that this info is false. Sadly so.
I will note that the only way to access the leaked info from Ashley Madison is to go on the dark web, so I personally can't verify the info.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 6:55 pm
I would also note that it's possible someone spoofed his name on the account as well. Some AM users were known for having fake names, etc. The smartest ones, I presume.
But that's a lot of work to spoof him twice, with 2 different *actual* addresses.
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