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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 2:02 pm 
Sure it's probably pretty routine. It's like those pro athlete interviews where they spout all the cliches. The whole so and so set up a date and everything like that is prompted of course because it's just part of setting up the show.
However, I don't think they are completely scripted because I wouldn't think that people would willing agree to looking stupid or worse. It's not like they script someone to get drunk, etc.
For example, is Ian following a script?
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 2:47 pm
Jimmer, they sign a contract that the show can portray them however production wants to portray that person. I did not read Courtney's book, but I heard it was absolutely fascinating about the depth of production-interference in this show. But it hasn't been a secret that production tells them what to say in their confessionals. Seriously... when someone is out on their first date with someone and after only two hours they say they can see spending the rest of his/her life with that person - of course it is production telling them to say that. Production also encouraged Courtney to go skinny-dipping with Ben. Production arranged for Nick to show up this season, just like they have arranged for Chris B. to show up the last season. And one of the guys that got kicked off earlier this season has been calling out Chris Harrison about how staged everything is.
And I can't answer the Ian question because I didn't watch my recording of last week's episode.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 2:53 pm
Oh I agree that a lot of it is staged and most of the contestants cooperate and play along. I'm just not as convinced as you are that all of it is staged.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 2:59 pm
For the most part, it is pretty much all staged. If you ever read RS's column on Thursdays, he will usually delve in depth regarding production's heavy hand and staging of the show.
Let me tell you how staged this show is. The episode from the first night where they had to decide between Kaitlyn and Britt. There was a guy who got super drunk that night (he was Nikki's ex-boyfriend - of Juan Pablo fame). Except for one thing... that "first night" was filmed over two nights. So the guys had to wear the exact same clothes as they did on the "first night" and Nikki's ex-boyfriend had to get drunk again because he was drunk the first night.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 3:26 pm
Is that from Reality Steve?
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Cass_cat
Member
05-09-2011
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 3:37 pm
yea Reality Steve. I thought that was interesting filmed over 2 nights so the guys had to wear the same clothes again... and get equally drunk again.
Also what you want to watch out for is you hear someone speaking... you never know when they said it... or in what context. But if you see them saying something, wearing the same clothes then there's a better chance that those words aren't edited together from other conversations. I'm very fascinated by the editing of this show.
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 4:07 pm
Chris Harrison has said many times that the rose ceremony takes hours and hours, so it's really not a secret
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 4:16 pm
I don't think this was there first such long rose ceremony..
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 4:18 pm
That's pretty funny. But as I was saying they just go with the flow so to speak. It's not like they can force someone to behave or speak out of character if they don't want to. Nor can they force the Bachelor/ette to fall in love with or pick someone they don't want to pick. Believe it or not Americans still have rights and one of those rights is to behave the way you want to behave.
Perhaps they have a designated drunk?
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 5:07 pm
Good god man....you are not ever going to be the bachelor
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 5:08 pm
Please God....don't ever let him be the bachelor
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 6:04 pm
I read Courtney's book. I don't recall it changing much my opinion about how staged or unstaged the show is.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 6:30 pm
Oh my. Ian is SO deep! He's so deep he's drowning in his own BS! LOL!
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Snoopsmom
Member
02-19-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 6:34 pm
This show made its final jump over the shark tonight. From groping, making out and swearing in Christ's Church to having sex with Nick to laying in a coffin. All of these guys should walk out and leave Kaitlyn with Nick. They are made for each other, both creepy and slimy.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 6:39 pm
I agree, Nick and Kaitlyn belong together.
Those other guys should run away.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 7:52 pm
How creepy is the producer/editor/tptb though?
They trained the camera on that bedrm door and the captions kept saying : Kissing sound,... moaning,...sheets rustling,...
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 7:56 pm
K just exposed Britt (having sex w/Chris). News to me. But was that much later in the "journey"?
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 8:06 pm
Yikes! That's immature and selfish and bad timing.
She could be one of those girls who needs to get physical really soon to prove things to herself. That would be alright in her private life, but not there and then.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 8:58 pm
I didn't think she exposed Britt. I thought she was asking herself how she would have felt IF Chris and Britt did have sex.
I'll admit that I would fall for Nick. I would. I know it's baffling. And even though I knew he was bad news, I would find him hard to resist!
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 9:08 pm
I rewound. She didn't expose Britt. She's lamenting about "has this ever happened before"... and then saying she doesn't want this to affect things. Then she says "I'm trying to think if Chris and Britt did have sex, what I would have done?" Then she says she doesn't feel guilt about the act, just guilt about caring for other relationships.
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Chewpito
Member
01-03-2004
| Monday, June 22, 2015 - 9:28 pm
OOOO...Nick reminds me of Bozo...no attraction at all..but she likes him.....and yes...all those guys need to run for their lives..... I cant believe I am watching this...so wierd....
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Reenie
Member
06-24-2006
| Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 6:54 am
All the other guys should run for their lives! I know it won't happen, but how fun would it be if they left together?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 6:56 am
I just don't know how she expects them to stay when she can't even wait for the fantasy suite nights? The sanctioned snuggle time? LOL. I can't see how the guys could trust her now. It's an odd season but highly entertaining!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 7:05 am
I'm not sure how trust exactly comes into play when you're dating one woman with a bunch of guys.
What Kaitlyn did was no different than Andi sleeping with Nick and then sleeping with Josh the next day and then claiming that Josh is the love of her life. In fact, Andi may be worse but Nick took all the viewers' wrath over that one.
Wow does Ian ever have a big ego!
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 8:01 am
Yes, the Fantasy Suite is kind of an agreed upon free pass. She didn't have a pass last night. 
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