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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 5:24 am 
Sea, the Jake/Vienna breakup was on TV. I can't remember if it was during one of the tell all shows or on one of the AFTR shows.
BJM, ITA with you about Jake. He really was a tool to Vienna on the breakup (and I'm not a fan of her's either). It was brutal. And as much as I disliked Vienna, I tended to believe her when it came to the problems they were having. She was very specific about dates, places, etc. etc.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 9:57 am
Specifically how was Jake so horrible to Vienna? And Vienna in turn acted like a controlling manipulative crazy person on Bachelor Pad with her guard and protect your heart guy (can't remember his name).
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 10:01 am
I agree with you that she acted like a whack job on BP with Kasey_Who_Will_Guard_Your_Heart and get a tattoo to prove it.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 10:31 am
Agreed on all points! It was really ugly watching Jake be so dismissive, condescending and just plain rude to Vienna on the AFTFR when they broke up. She ended up running off the set in tears. It was really awful. And then she was just as unforgiving to him on BP, with Casey (I'll guard and protect your heart) by her side. What a pair!
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 10:57 am
Well, call me jaded but I didn't feel bad for either Jake or Vienna because they were both so awful and deserved whatever they got. But I did feel bad for all parties in the Melissa, Molly, Jason fiasco.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 2:14 pm
I never liked Vienna anyway. Not that I was a huge fan of Jake.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 4:50 pm
I'm with you Sea that I never liked either one, but what Jake did to Vienna on the AFTR show was brutal.
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Nolanry
Member
09-11-2006
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 1:58 am
Yikes! Definitely have never seen any of these things! I'm half SUPER curious and half thankful I didn't have to watch these things go down.
I've never seen any season of Bachelorette, but even just finding out that the two finale guys have to propose to the one girl and have her choose?? Does seem rather awkward. Not sure I'm looking forward to that when I start watching this next season.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 5:48 am
Nolanry, the two final guys don't have to propose to the Bachelorette. Ben just dropped to one knee and proposed before Ashley could cut him loose.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 9:05 am
I don't think two guys have ever proposed to the Bachelorette except during Ashley's season, although I think Jason did get down on one knee and Deanna stopped him before he could say anything. I don't really remember for sure though. The Bachelorette just dumps the unchoosen at or sometimes before that final rose ceremony. (I liked that Ali said goodbye to Chris and didn't put him through that final.) It is kind of awkward though that both final two guys always pick out rings. (Not sure Chris did though.)
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 9:32 am
Jimmer, I always liked Jake until his ATFR. I didn't care that he picked Vienna, the girl no one liked. They had chemistry, she wasn't completely awful, and he gets to pick who he wants. On ATFR, we saw a VERY different side of his personality than we had seen on his season and especially on Jillian's season. Watching the way he talked to Vienna then was super uncomfortable. Not only was he how BJM said, he seemed very controlling, not nice, and expected her to do every little thing he wanted her to do when he wanted her to do it (even unimportant things like measuring a room or some such home decor thing, some example Vienna used and was very believable) and if she wouldn't he would completely lose his temper. During the ATFR, Jake came off as though he seemed that type of reaction and behavior was ok. Like he didn't understand how anyone wouldn't understand that she was being annoying and think his reaction was ok and justified. He seemed seriously unreasonable and self centered and blamed her for everything.
I didn't like her much and liked her even less as time went on. Even though she ran from the set crying, I think that was an act. I do believe most of what she said on ATFR though. I think she may have embellished a little, maybe not though, and that she acted more distressed than she actually was trying to get sympathy. But none of that changes how I feel about Jake who turned out to be probably the worst bachelor ever.
He seemed so great, although boring, on Jillian's season. Ali seemed so awful on Jake's season and not bad on her own season. Ben was quite likable on Ashley's season and very unlikable on his. And not just because of Courtney. Sean is much less boring than he was on Emily's season. It's interesting how we don't really get to see the real person when they are part of the big group.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 10:42 am
Very interesting hearing all your views on Jake. I agree that there is something about him that doesn't sit right even when he tries to be on his best behavior. And Vienna wasn't a prize either. They surely didn't bring out the best in each other (assuming there was some best to bring out).
I agree that it's also interesting how the Bachelors and Bachelorettes seem different when the focus is on them.
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 10:59 am
I believe Jake and Christine Chenowith are dating now.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 11:23 am
That is bad, bad news. Kristin Chenowith is so sweet. She needs to run. RUN! Far, far away from him. Ick.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 2:17 pm
Oh dear! Kristin Chenowith deserves so much better than Jake! I love her. I would think she'd know better.
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 3:00 pm
isn't she quite a bit older?
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Snoopsmom
Member
02-19-2003
| Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 3:36 pm
She's 44, he's 35. Age is just a number. There were reports a couple of days ago on omg! or wetpaint that Kristen broke up with Jake.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Monday, March 04, 2013 - 3:53 pm
"The Women Tell All" should actually be interesting tonight.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Monday, March 04, 2013 - 7:15 pm
I changed my mind, Desiree should be the next bachelorette.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Monday, March 04, 2013 - 7:29 pm
I am enjoying the Tweets.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Monday, March 04, 2013 - 7:38 pm
I am so alone here! Help!
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Monday, March 04, 2013 - 7:39 pm
AshLee is saying that Sean told her there was nothing between him and the other women. He is denying it and looking confused.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Monday, March 04, 2013 - 7:39 pm
sorry, I'm on the left coast...I'm just stopping in to see what is going on 
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Monday, March 04, 2013 - 7:47 pm
Bloopers are funny. Fact: Sean does not know how to open a champagne bottle.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Monday, March 04, 2013 - 7:55 pm
I thought Sean hinted to Ashley she was the one.
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