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Moderator
Moderator
06-30-2002
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 11:49 am 
Dear fellow TVCHer's,
We listen to you. We really do! 
Some of you have expressed concerns that you don't have enough latitude to express yourselves and freely discuss your favorite shows and remain within our current posting rules. However, almost all of us want to maintain the generally friendly atmosphere that everyone has come to enjoy at TVCH. What can we do?
What we will not do is relax with respect to Member interaction on the board. Poster to Poster respect is paramount. Engaging in nasty exchanges and baiting will be strictly dealt with. We are a friendly board and want to remain that way. Name calling (changing a name from Adam to Adumb) is not permitted.
What we will do is allow more leeway in discussing the behavior of Reality TV show contestants, as long as we can give a Poster the benefit of the doubt that he or she is referring to the person's actions and not making a sweeping character assassination of the person's entire life and being. As always, blatant and excessive personal attacks will never be allowed.
An example of a post that would be ok is:
"Person X is a jerk. I don't like that he drove while drinking and endangered his life and others." While the above post does say something negative, it also discusses the behavior of the person, thereby explaining the negative feelings. However, a minimal post like "Person X is a jerk." would be considered bashing as there is no context for the statement and the statement is completely isolated. It also adds little value to the ongoing discussion.
We will not be endlessly clarifying what is and isn't allowed at this point. Just try to post reasonably and we'll see how it goes. Although discussing moderation on the board is against the rules, we do understand that people may wish to comment on these rule changes in general terms and without reference to specific posts and people are welcome to do so in this thread only and for a limited time.
Transition to this new interpretation of the rules will require patience and restraint by all of us but we think we can make it work and it will make TVCH a better and more enjoyable place to post.
Your TVCH Moderating Team
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 12:55 pm
I think that people should be modded anytime they say "Person X IS a jerk." It's an internal attribution from our observation of their behaviors.
I liked your old rule. The word "IS" was the most important no-no. It was very cut and dried. If you made an internal attribution to the person themselves, it was breaking the rules. Only comments on behaviors were open to criticism. I don't think people should be able to break the rule now, just because the include some behaviors. Most people we talk about on here, we do not know personally, so I think it is wrong for us to be allowed to make personal statements about them.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 1:04 pm
Also, is it just limited to celebrities/personalities
Or could we say (for arguments sake and because I know she loves me) Scooteriffic is a jerk. She goes out and has a drink and never invites me....
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 1:10 pm
Hey Escapee...meet ya at the Clubhouse (seriously that's where we're going tonight) at 7:30 for BEERS!!!! You're buying...the band tonight is supposed to be good...Coach Ted said!
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 1:12 pm
I will be at applebees for margaritas and appetizers.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 1:12 pm
Ok well we can do a silent toast!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 1:17 pm
The rules about poster to poster interaction will remain very strict.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 1:59 pm
So what's the diff? I don't get it. I thought we already could say Person X is acting like a jerk and all would be okay. I'm with Eeyore, I liked the rules as they've been. But honestly, I don't quite get the diff....
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:01 pm
Is "Moderator" someone who is already here? Why the anonymous-ity? (is that a word?)
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:06 pm
Some people have felt that it's the same thing, to say someone is a jerk, and someone is acting like a jerk. We're just trying to allow a little more open criticism, without being anal about the details of how it's said. Really, we'll do our best to discern the intent of the author. At least, I think that's the point.
We've been told to lighten up, so we're trying.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:08 pm
As for the Moderator moniker, any moderator or administrator can use it to post a warning or annct. Åll of the moderators/admins are identified. There are no anonymous moderators.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:11 pm
We've been told to lighten up, so we're trying.
No good deed goes unpunished. Sadly.
lol
And, boy...the word "anal" sure has been popping up a lot lately. Ha!
But on a serious note: I finally got the hang of the rules so I think I'll just try to stick to that. LOL
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:12 pm
FWIW I was just being difficult.....I think the rules and restrictions are a ok just the way they are. (Does anyone say A OK anymore?)
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:13 pm
Anal??? What thread am I in???
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:14 pm
It is okay to follow stricter rules 
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:19 pm
SEAMONKEY I HAVE YOUR GIRL SCOUT COOKIES
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:23 pm
Is that a bribe? 
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:24 pm
JIMMER I HAVE YOUR GIRL SCOUT COOKIES!!!!
<did it work?>
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 2:25 pm
LOL - It can't hurt at this point.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 3:39 pm
I love the new rules. I think we should be able to speak truthfully about the actions of someone we don't know and will likely never meet and who put themselves on national TV. Its too fake to have to always be nice about someone we don't like.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 4:01 pm
Twinkie, no one has ever said you have to be nice all the time. Criticism of someone's behavior has always been permitted, and happens all the time. We're just trying to deal with the inconsistency of what happens when one person says he's a jerk when clearly referring to someone's behavior on a tv show (which wasn't permitted before) and he's being a jerk (which was permitted).
However, meanness/viciousness will never be permitted. So it's not a license to just let loose and slaughter people.
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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 4:20 pm
"However, meanness/viciousness will never be permitted. So it's not a license to just let loose and slaughter people."
Damn, I was just getting ready to wind up and let everyone have it. 
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 4:25 pm
LOL Ginger!
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 4:40 pm
I don't believe I said anything about being mean or vicious. There is a difference in criticizing and being mean/vicous.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 4:47 pm
Would it be possible for the moderators to use their name rather than their number when moderating?
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