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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Sunday, October 29, 2023 - 11:37 pm 
Jag: We need to stress her out so she doesn't get her sleep.
Bowie think she deserves it.
They are talking about hanging out with Cirie after the veto ceremony.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Sunday, October 29, 2023 - 11:39 pm
Jag calls it "Mission: No Sleep"
Felicia and Cirie are going to bed.
Jag: "Start saying crazy things to her."
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Sunday, October 29, 2023 - 11:45 pm
So it is Felicia they are plotting to stress out so she can't sleep. Then they vote Cirie out and Felicia is too stressed to compete well with them in the HOH competition. (That is really mean, I think.)
Matt is back in the HOH room. Jag says, you know the Pressure Cooker, this is the Pressure Cracker. He explains to Matt what I typed above.
Lights are out in the comic room.
They are going on and on elaborating on their strategy to stress Felicia out. (I am out for the night.)
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Bamagirl
Member
08-26-2012
| Sunday, October 29, 2023 - 11:50 pm
Risca, wonderful news! I'm so happy for you!
I doing my best to watch this season, still recovering and doing really well. Thank you all for once again for all the updates, it's made it so much easier for me this season.
I'm just ready for it to be over! I hate how it's ending but it is what it is. I hate Matt was on Jag's train, I wanted to like him, but how they're ending this and being mean spirited. Not my style of game play!!! Please just get Bowie off my screen!
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 12:08 am
In my opinion, what Jag is instigating should be grounds for being kicked off the show like Luke was. He should get no stipend or prize money.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 1:24 am
You know, Jag has flipped the whole goal of representing Sikhs as good people on its ear with this mean streak, so that I have to think that he does NOT represent all Sikhs and that most of them are kinder people, maybe less boring, too.
I hope that if they carry out this plan to make Felicia sleep deprived that it backfires on them and they are sleep deprived.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 6:14 am
They were telling Matt it’s all on him since he’s the one who won’t be playing for HoH… he’s supposed to keep the mamas up and awake, distracted, exhausted… I’m sure he won’t/can’t succeed. Those women will scold anyone who dares to keep from sleeping! None of the wimps in the “Mafia” have the marbles to carry out such a plan. What a rude/mean thing to do, I’m glad it would never work, these kids are no match for likes of these women! Don’t come between them and their food OR their SLEEP!
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 6:22 am
Risca what wonderful news.
Boberg, I still love this show. I have always said that the human interaction and ways people change and evolve is so interesting to me. I don't care about the comps but more about the human element when money is the goal.
Bama agree, the mean spirit is just not necessary, and it makes my experience less enjoyable.
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Hwest
Member
07-01-2011
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 7:30 am
My ideal BB game would be a diverse group of house guests who come to play without fear, who want to win the money, who are not there to represent some "community" or "minority" (as if winning BB will somehow have a positive impact on the world view of your special interest) and who are not there to enhance their social media profiles. Is this possible?
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-13-2000
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 7:35 am
If Jag is having Matt keeping the Mama's awake and stressed . under the guise that Matt won't be playing in the HOH... I hope Matt realizes that then Matt will look like the putz and Jag will look like a "good guy" .. in the Mama's eyes...especially if Jag can then say.. he didn't participate...well the three of them doing this (under Jag's orders) .. have just given me another few days of not watching the feeds... I've only watched one show.. have the rest saved and may just delete them...
Personal opinion: This surpasses any of the other seasons "meanies"
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Rabernet
Member
08-10-2014
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 7:38 am
Here's a clip of the plot against Fe.
https://x.com/BBLiveUpdaters/status/1718882209396822090?s=20
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Hwest
Member
07-01-2011
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 7:42 am
And the trend continues... Bowie Jane (real name Miranda Jane Ball) would not tell Jag a single personal story about herself in the HOH last night. In 89 days I have only heard one personal story. Just before double eviction night she shared with Blue that her brother speaks fluent Mandarin Chinese and was a brilliant student who studied economics in China. That is all. We have not heard anything else about her personal life at all.
If she is in final 2 what would her speech be like? Yeah, yeah, yeah?
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 7:53 am
Hwest Bowie Jane is extremely aware that anything she shares in the house goes out to many many people she doesn't even know on the live feeds. That is the reason Bowie gave to Jag why she will not share personal information while in the house but that she would tell him anything he wanted once they are out of the house. Jag said he kinda forgot live feeds during the first couple of weeks but that he should be more aware of that.
Earthmother that is what drew me to Big Brother also, the human interaction. I have recently went back and looked at some of season 1. Dr. Drew Pensky was on weekly explaining some of the behaviors of the HG such as talking negatively about other HG, sexual tensions, getting into groups and group thinking. Big Brother has moved further and further away from it's original purpose every season.
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Hwest
Member
07-01-2011
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 8:01 am
What endears us to the HG's is that we get to "know" them on a personal level. So while I understand Bowie Jane's reluctance to share deep personal information she acts more like someone who is in a witness protection program and not a HG on Big Brother. There is a level of superficial sharing that is not invasive (i.e. where you grew up or went to school). This kind of "knowledge" makes you rootable to the viewers. This is especially true of someone like BJ who has a public life as a DJ and a performer.
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 8:05 am
That plot is worse than anything the friendship did and I thought they were the worst! Felicia for the win!
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 8:05 am
From what I could gather watching some flashbacks:
When Cirie and Felicia are alone: Felicia will say something like Jag/Bowie have been saying mean things about Matt like calling him dumb. Cirie will respond "Girl now you done said something, you done said something" Felicia takes this encouragement and it grows until Felicia has gone out and reported it to whomever, in this instance she told Matt that she and Cirie heard Jag/Bowie making fun of him, calling him names. Felicia has also been encouraged (she would probably do it anyway) with telling both Jag and separately Matt that Bowie Jane is a stronger comp threat than they are seeing. In other words, instead of the two mamas campaigning against each other, Felicia is campaigning against Jag/Bowie cause the mama's want Jag to use the veto so Bowie Jane goes OTB.
Matt told Jag/Bowie about Felicia telling him they were making fun of him.
So now Jag/Bowie are ticked off cause the mamas are not campaigning against each other as they had planned and instead campaigning against them.
That is the rationale they have given for their plan to keep Felicia awake worrying about her place in the game. After veto today, Jag/Bowie are to give Cirie lots of attention (play pool with her, have convos with her) and Matt is to tell Felicia she needs to be campaigning cause he is unsure where the votes really are and he doesn't want to have to break a tie.
They hope this keeps Felicia anxious and awake, stops her from campaigning against them and instead campaigning against Cirie and finally so she is stressed during the next competition.
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Bubbles
Member
08-31-2008
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 8:51 am
Wow, I don't get it. What is with the mean spirited HGs left in the house? Jag, Bowie and Matt are running the house and they plan to keep Felicia up so she won't be good on the next comp and assign Matt to do it so he will look like the worst one, then Jag will look fine when he cuts Matt? I know he hasn't said that last part, but will Jag take the credit for Felicia losing sleep due to this....I don't think so. I know none of them are playing nice at this point, but Jags type of control is just plain MEAN. The want to be role model for the Sikhs has not only floundered, but crashed and burned. Very sad.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 9:01 am
I don't get Bowie Jane at all. On one hand she is very aware of the cameras/live feeds and is very tight lipped about her life outside of the house. (except that she likes to go to pubs, drink, and party) Maybe to protect her career or are there things that aren't meant to be shared publicly? Not my business.
But if it is to protect her career...then why isn't she more aware of her "mean girl" words and actions? Does Bowie Jane truly believe that it is only the others that have been mean spirited and cruel in their words and deeds? Is she really that delusional?
Really do not understand her.
On Jag representing....I don't think anyone should go in the house saying they are representing anyone but themselves. Kaysar did not represent all Muslims, The Cookout did not represent all persons of color, and Jag does not represent all Sikhs. It is a very grandiose opinion of oneself to think they are "representing" anyone but themselves.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 9:02 am
I do not think Jag being a Sikh has anything to do with this game. None of them are innocent and that is no better than saying because they are Black, White, Christian, Muslim or any other creed. He is playing a cutthroat game, and though I don't like the way it's being played right now (unnecessary ugliness) I can't fault Jag for playing like everyone else. This final 5 are not my choice but I want to be fair.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 9:03 am
It was not easy but I finally cancelled this miserable, useless season on Paramount +.
While I have not been rooting for Miss Felicia I am now.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 9:07 am
I know there was a question about Bowie's sexual preference. I read she calls herself Gender fluid.
I don't care who wins at this point, don't like any of them. I am only here for AFP and none of those left in the house are on my list.
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Maris
Member
03-27-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 9:15 am
Hasn't Matt done the same thing? Wanting to show that deaf people can play this game? He is in essence representing. At the same time he has complained about people whispering and the unfairness of people whispering. I mean really, who the heck comes into the BB house and does not know that most of the conversations are whispered conversations.
I have been up and down on Matt this season. At first he was a favorite, then I saw him as a whiner. I find him to be immature and I don't see how he has done much of anything other than follow Jags direction.
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Bubbles
Member
08-31-2008
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 9:25 am
I mainly was replying to Seamonkeys 1:24am post. I know in much earlier posts of BB this season that
it was mentioned that Jag wanted to represent well of the Sikhs, so he is the one that put this out there and I wanted him to know that I think he totally has not done that. Before he got Jagitis I think he seemed much kinder and I liked him, but he lost that kind side when his power got to his head. IMO
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Maris
Member
03-27-2002
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 9:29 am
True Bubbles. It is like Lord of the Flies. Someone becomes a leader and then they start attacking.
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Hwest
Member
07-01-2011
| Monday, October 30, 2023 - 9:30 am
Eh.. None of the HG's has handled power with grace or leadership this year.
Hopefully Bowie and Jag were just "power drunk" with the hoarded booze and will think better of acting on their Felicia plot.
Besides this stupid and mean plot I have not seen Bowie Jane think up any strategy (other than how to hide the liquor from the other HG's).
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