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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 7:23 pm 
I listened to Jag and Bowie for awhile, but yikes.. it is like talking to a young kid. Which she is not.
and as Cirie says "Honey Chile, you might have to touch the block".
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 7:24 pm
Jag has somehow switched the conversation to strategizing for the next comp. For some reason it sounds like it's an obstacle relay race?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 7:25 pm
I just cannot listen to Jag or Bowie.
If anyone has listened to way more of these talks.. if America won HOH would she put up Jag and Matt or do what she told them, put up Blue and Bowie? I don't trust her.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 7:27 pm
Jag always thinks he knows what the comp will be..
I thought he was still fixated on slip n slide.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 7:27 pm
Sea, she made Jag swear to her that he wouldn't do that to her, to prove his loyalty.
But she has no problem with Matt being a pawn. Go figure.
This is an emotional needy thing for her. It's not a sneaky strategy on her part. That's what's scary.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 7:28 pm
The DR probably told him it's not happening, to shut him up.
At least he doesn't talk about shoes and weddings anymore.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 7:31 pm
Now the 3 of them are saying they shouldn't be together alone for to long.
Jag immediately says he'll leave first. That you 2 can stay and still talk. Lol!
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 7:37 pm
Jag has left and Bowie and Matt are alone.
Somebody needs to watch and report back if Felicia is correct and Bowie has the hots for Matt.
I'm falling asleep now. Night.
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 7:48 pm
Sea, Cory's brother is Zach
<Thanks.. Luke?? Where did that come from?>
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 8:17 pm
I just read somewhere a description of Jag and his game. It put it into words I have been struggling to find.
Jag's game is not fun to watch or listen to.
No judgement on his game, this that it is no fun!
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 11:12 pm
Wow… Felicia lost it over Cam sitting on the kitchen counter (fully clothed), but here she is in the Comic Room with Cirie, and Felicia is clipping and filing her TOENAILS on her bedspread! I guess it’s all about perspective, but now when I see her up to elbows in potato salad, I can’t help but have THIS visual!
Outside, Jag/Blue talking on the couch, she’s teaching him some Korean words/phrases. Matt is also there, naturally.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 11:50 pm
All feeds have been on comic room where Cirie and Felicia are in their beds. The lights have just gone out
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - 11:56 pm
Feeds 3 shows Matt in bed with a mask over his eyes. The lights are still on.
Cory and America are talking and whispering about the game, but the camera is not trained on them.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 12:13 am
Cory requested the lights to go off earlier in the scramble room. Now feeds have switched to the scary room. It looks like Blue and Bowie are in their beds with the lights on in that room. (Jag must be in the DR.)
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 12:31 am
Jag is back and climbs into bed. Bowie tells him good night. The lights go out and all three of them say thank you. (I will sign off since there is nothing else to report.)
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 3:06 am
So all the boo hooing and panic by Bowie Jane was because Cory told Bowie that Felicia said that Jag plans to put up Bowie and Blue next.
Bowie and Felicia to have not room and Bowie tells her what Cory said. Felicia assures Bowie it is just one more of Cory's lies. Bowie says it is meant to try to make her feel isolated and that she can't trust anyone and is alone. (No Bowie, it is a desperate HG making last ditch effort to try to flip things).
Bowie then goes outside and rehashes it all with Cirie, bashing Cory and saying it is annoying that Cory will be in the jury house. They talk about possible influence Cory would have on votes. Bowie still weepy at times. Cirie points out that Cory/America will be 2 out of 7 of the jury votes. Bowie: "I don't care, whatever, can't threaten me"
What is she even talking about? Threaten her? This is not "threatening" her, this is lying and trying to manipulate and influence. All things she has done and all things her bestie Jag has done, (along with the vast majority of HG). Bowie appears to have no clue about this game, first you have to find a way to the final 2 chairs and while you are doing that, you have to ensure you are not alienating all the potential jurors.
Much ado about nothing in my opinion.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 3:24 am
Later, Bowie meets with Jag again in HN room. Bowie tells Jag that she told Cirie that the first few weeks were not that fun and that it is starting to feel that way again. Jag: How so? Bowie: you know meetings here, meetings there, all over the place. She is crying again.
THey hug and Jag tries reassuring her that it is Jag/Matt/Bowie to the end. Jag says he will probably be gone before her and Matt and he will never sell them out.
Jag: Mad at Cory for using your emotions and making up all these lies. That is the extent to which he will go. Trying to make you doubt. I don't want you or Matt to ever doubt, you can always talk to me and you should have a chat with Matt too. Jag: Me putting you and Blue up, why would I ever want to do that, in what world would I ever do that (UUUGGGG LAST WEEK Jag when you did put up Blue and asked Bowie to go up as your pawn...my response)
Jag: Cory and America, we are going to handle them, one this week, next week the other. I want to reassure you, what we have, that is my squad period. Ride or Die. blah blah blah Jag continues to reassure Bowie they are real and they will figure it all out together as a team.
IMHO: Bowie loved her HOH week cause all of a sudden she had a team of Jag and Matt glued to her, in her HOH every few minutes. She had buddies. Now as time passes, they are not glued to her every minute cause they have to work the game and talk to others to keep the game going their way and identify their targets. Now Bowie feels a little separated and she thought it would always feel like her HOH week.
Bowie: It feels like everyone is having private conversations all the time. I always relay everything that is said to me.
Jag tries to explain what he has been doing this week and has spent his time trying to reassure everyone that after Cory, I am going after America. This buys us time. Ensuring that everyone else wants to go after America and not going after me.
Needy much Bowie Jane.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 3:52 am
Very needy.
I love how Jag just assumes that he will be in charge the next couple of weeks.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 4:22 am
I think Bowie's issues are real. And it's pretty scary for Jag, if they are.
Now, can't put Bowie up no matter what. Cirie and Felicia say if Jag or Matt win hoh, who will he put up against America? If they put up Blue, she will be devastated. That leaves the two of them to be a pawn and they are not happy with that.
They said they have to change their plans and they need to get Jag out NOW!
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 4:24 am
Later Felicia/Matt in kitchen and Felicia says we 4 need to have a meeting later tonight cause all this sh#t with Bowie Jane. Cause if you both are reassuring her that she is not going up then WHO is?
Felicia is on the ball thinking this out and wants answers from Matt/Jag.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 5:01 am
Later short meeting with Cirie/Felicia/Cory/America laughing how crazy Bowie acting. Cory says I have did all I can with Bowie so I leave it with you all. Felicia says yea she is a lot paranoid.
America/Cory leave out of comic room.
Cirie and Felicia laugh, Cirie saying she is going along with it cause the more Bowie acts out maybe put space between her and Matt/Jag. Felicia/Cirie hoping soon as Cory out the door, America will step up and play. Voice if afraid they keep Cory he might line up with Bowie but maybe he would keep going after Bowie. Cirie: Bowie up there crying questioning everything??? The questions won't all be gone just cause they said so, now they got to put her all back together.
Felicia: "I'm talking to their a##'s tonight and leaves the room.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 5:29 am
The poor editors of the show have a lot of work to do today to get this all in. Lol!
Thank goodness it's not the double tonight. Otherwise, there's not enough time to show all this.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 5:32 am
Later: America crying again, telling Cory how guilty she feels. Cory says, this Bowie stuff doesn't matter, nothing was ever going to change, I'm going.
America: "How can I even play with all this guilt.
Cory: Stop it, I was never staying, the only way I stay is if you go in and quit and I would never let that happen.
Little more talking and then America says she feels a little better but feels like such an idiot. Tells Cory he is a great player. Cory: I am flawed but I appreciate you saying that. America spends time telling him how great he has played and things he has accomplished.
(I found it interesting that Cory brought up that the only way he stays is if America goes in there and quits)
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 7:00 am
Boberg, that was interesting that Cory made that comment to America, like hint hint hint lol.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Thursday, October 19, 2023 - 7:54 am
If Bowie had to endure being nominated week after week like Cam and Felicia did, even if she was assured she was “just a pawn,” she’d have self evicted by now. She has no idea how close she’s been to being the pawn AND being the target! She has no self awareness whatsoever. She vilifies each evictee as if they’ve personally/morally wronged her. She needs to go back and watch earlier seasons and/or seek a professional to guide her in handling non life-threatening challenges in life. She must be spoiled by never feeling the pressure of being on the block!
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