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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 3:40 pm 
Tonight at 8pm, is the POV Competition and eventually the ceremony.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 4:59 pm
Andy Herren
@AndyHerren
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3h
Zingbot is on #BB25 tonight so I want to post my annual tweet about how no audio actually comes from Zingbot. When he’s insulting the houseguests they’re just looking at a person in a robot suit silently swaying back and forth while Zingbot’s insults play through loudspeakers.
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Mom_of_three
Member
08-01-2011
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:05 pm
Felicia saying that she can’t believe BowieJane nominated her
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Cablejockey
Member
12-26-2001
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:09 pm
Jag is talking like he has the game all wrapped up. Who knows, maybe he does
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:14 pm
picking players ... Bowie picks Matt
Cirie picks Jag
(JEsus did someone check the bag to make sure everyone else was in there)
Felicia picks America
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:21 pm
So, Jag threw Cam under the bus, saying that Cam doesn't trust her, and that Cam was bad mouthing her hard. And she just believes it.
She's a fool.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:22 pm
hamsterwatch #bb25
@hamsterwatch
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32s
Scrambleverse message #wompwomp and Zingbot appeared on the balcony
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:23 pm
Another made up lie from Jag. He does it so easily. But he is worried about his parents hearing about a lap dance?
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Mom_of_three
Member
08-01-2011
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:32 pm
Omg otev made a song about Cory being a tiny man omg
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Mom_of_three
Member
08-01-2011
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:33 pm
Where is everyone?
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:39 pm
Lying is part of the game, and Bowie had just been lied about by Mecole, so she should be aware.
For some reason, Bowie wanted to believe that lie. I put more of the onus on her than Jag.
But, what I have a real problem with Jag is his constant fanning the flames of Bowies hate. Whenever the mob starts to tire themselves out from trashing Cam, he purposely gets them all wound up again. He is purposefully cruel.
I would not want to do business with a person like this.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:45 pm
Mom, that song was cruel, but funny!
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Mom_of_three
Member
08-01-2011
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:47 pm
So funny and cruel lol. I think America had that and shouldn’t have been eliminated
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Mom_of_three
Member
08-01-2011
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 5:48 pm
I am also laughing at how little the ramps are for item and the wall
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Ark
Member
07-09-2001
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 6:11 pm
It irritates the heck out of me that BB did show what Bowie actually said to Cam when he claimed he'd saved her. He's not going to be their winner do why protect his image like they've done time after time?
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Risca76
Member
05-12-2011
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 6:49 pm
Ark, what did Bowie actually say?
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Lanzee
Member
07-11-2000
| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 - 6:53 pm
I’m puzzled that they didn’t show POV ceremony on tongiht’s show. So I guess it will show on this Thursday night, live eviction show.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 12:30 am
Ark, for fan favorite..
I'm not fond of the zings but the houseguests always claim to like them.
Lanzee, to create suspense?
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Ark
Member
07-09-2001
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 4:11 am
Bowie pointed out that Cam did not save her. She had positioned herself so that he had no reason to nominate her. She essentially saved herself and she resented him for trying to take credit gor something he didn't do.
Bowie hasn't done a lot in this game so BB should be showing her significant moments in the house in case she ends up being their winner. Instead they portrayed her as a helpless woman being saved by a big strong man snd then being ungrateful.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 5:05 am
She is portrayed exactly as she has been this whole game. What are her significant moments? We have seen and heard her time after time being carried by one person she knows is loyal to her. She chose to turn on him, yes for her own game, but he opened the door for her to actually play. None of those people would have bothered to even talk to her, until she got close to Cam. He trusted her to his core. When anyone brought up her name to put up he was the one who talked them down. He was the one who was duped. Good game if it works for you, but my opinion when they cut her it is her own making. She may luck out and sit in those final 3 chairs but she will not win this game, and she will not come near being AFP. The nastiness she is portraying now will negate all the good feelings people had of her two weeks ago. Matt and Jag used her to get rid of THEIR target, not hers. They fed her lies on top of some truths. She may have just believed them, but the way she is behaving and bashing him is far from being win worthy in my opinion. Cam gave her a home she desperately needed and never excluded her and also never made a final two with her until he felt he had to for his own game, which is fair play. He never suggested she go up even as a pawn. She is only being given credit right now because she won HOH. In their eyes she is still expendable and again will get stabbed in the back. She will have to fight like Cam is right now when they are desperate for someone to go on the block. Blue Matt and Jag are a final group right now. They will only cut Blue if they have to.
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Iluvreality
Member
05-08-2011
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 5:34 am
Mom of three….I agree the ramps were much lower and shorter. I can remember people struggling in the past to get up them. I think all this was made for Circe’s benefit. It was odd that she lost after the first clue and right before they dowsed everyone with red paint. She has said she didn’t want to get her braids wet and she has done that all season. I call FOUL!
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 6:57 am
Thanks, Ark, for explaining what happened.
It's interesting what she said. Since I haven't actually seen the conversation, I'm reading it as that how she positioned herself was that she never liked Cam, and she only pretended to be his friend and ally so he wouldn't nominate her.
I'm sure there are different ways to interpret what she meant when she said it. Or, it could have just been a quick retort to his perceived insult. We don't really know because we don't have a clue to who the real Bowie Jane is.
I'm starting to think that her zingbot insult really wasn't about comparing her to a shark because of her teeth. Zingbot was giving the hgs a warning that she is a cold blooded killer and they better watch out.
Even Cirie said Bowie is not who she seems to be and she is ruthless. Gotta keep an eye on her.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 7:04 am
One more thing. It was either in the recap at the beginning of last night's show, or the one before it. (I rewatched that one before the new one came on.) Jag was in the diary rom talking about Bowie being in his alliance with Matt. Jag said that he could see Bowie sitting in the seat next to him at the final two.
Is Jag so ruthless that he is going to cut Matt at final 3, or will he strategize a way to have another hoh do his dirty work for him so he doesn't get " blood on his hands"?
Jag is a great strategist, but sucks at jury management.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 7:12 am
I would be a terrible juror. I would vote personal for sure. I would be a Bitter Betty. I guess I hold people to a higher standard, than I should in a game like this. I always vote for the underdog, especially if they aren't cutthroat.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 8:39 am
I think Jag knows that the jurors are all fans of the show. He isn't concerned they will vote personal; I don't think they will either. If he makes it to the end, he will win.
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Ark
Member
07-09-2001
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 9:57 am
I think she really was aligned with Cam only because they were the only two that weren't in on voting Rex out. She knew that Cam needed to go this week but since he had done anything direct to her she was reluctant. The minute Cam told Jag that he thought Meme might be right about Bowie being aligned with Cory & America (which btw, wasn't exactly keeping Bowie safe) she had a reason to put Cam up. Once she'd made that decision, I don't think she was in the mood to hear Cam's exaggeration of all he'd done for her.
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Ark
Member
07-09-2001
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 10:03 am
I don't know Earthmother, I've see more than one person say they are voting Cam for AFP just because they feel he is more attractive than Jag.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 10:46 am
Ark, while I agree with your 9:57 post, there are still some things I'm trying to figure out about everything.
When did she get so close to Jag and Matt? I never saw her strategizing with them. Did she align with them through Cam? I doubt it because the fugitives were a secret. So Jag and Matt must have approached her on the down low.
On the show, I think it was day 55 or 56 that BB showed them strategizing. When was day 55? Before her hoh reign or during?
This all could have been shown on the feeds, but how did I not have a whiff of it? Did anyone else see this going on?
She did say she wanted to keep the noms the same. But when Jag told her that Cam was throwing her under the bus, she said this was the perfect excuse she was looking for to put him up.
So, if all she was was looking for an excuse, than why the constant hateful trashing? Is it all an act?
I'm just pondering here. I'm just trying to figure her out. Because there's not much else going on in the house.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Wednesday, October 11, 2023 - 3:12 pm
Cameron's big bad talk about Bowie: After Bowie refused to hear anything about putting up Cory as the replacement nominee.....Cameron asks Jag, do you think there could be anything to what Meme said about America, Cory, Bowie working together?
Jag reports this conversation to Bowie as "Cameron is throwing you under the bus man, he is throwing you hard"
Bowie: "I just needed an excuse, now I have one." She interprets this as Cameron not trusting her. Never once asks Cameron about it, just takes Jags interpretation.
Hope she was a better lawyer for her clients than she was a team mate to Cameron.
To clarify an earlier question about what Jag said about the three of them.......he said Bowie was the perfect one for him and Matt to take to final 3. OF COURSE Jag also said they were mostly working with America and Cory to Matt in the BR. Jag is like fluid.....whatever the Minute Men need at the moment is where Jag is.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Thursday, October 12, 2023 - 4:57 am
I have a problem with Bowie's behavior. I don't have a problem with playing her own game, that is why she is there. She feels she has a better path forward without Cam, that is understandable too. I do think she would have stuck with Cam and Red if he was still there. Her ability to be so hateful about it is my problem. She has never been hateful of those who actually treated her so badly. I might feel differently about her if her goodbye message explains it, but for now she is just another mean girl in my opinion.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Thursday, October 12, 2023 - 10:35 am
EM, I had posted about that the other day too. I said she's acting like Cameron is her lover and he cheated on her with her best friend.
I don't get it.
Who is the real Bowie Jane?
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Friday, October 13, 2023 - 10:48 pm
Keep in mind Jag is the one who poisoned Bowie about Cameron, just like he did with Cameron about Red, and neither one was true. Perhaps some of us missed that brief bit in last night's show. It was fairly subtle, but it did occur. In sequence in the show, it was right after Jag and Cameron talked privately, perhaps in the HOH room. Jag was, I think, later in the diary room and said he could spin what Cam told him, then went to HOH room and spewed a story to Bowie about Cam's betrayal of her, and it was pure bs.
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