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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 1:37 pm 
Matt is still there.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 1:42 pm
Cam should notice how Jag is NOT speaking. Either he needs CPR or he’s planning to evict Cam, but Cam is talking so much and doesn’t notice…
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Pamy
Member
01-01-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 1:44 pm
Boberg, I think in casting they saw the Meme that walked out the door all spunky. What they got in the house was a big dud!
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 1:44 pm
Cameron pitches to Jag/Matt that Jag/Matt stay close to Cory/America....Cameron teams up with Blue.
Jag/Matt with Cory/America pit Cameron as the bad person
Cameron/Blue openly go after Cory
But we know it is really the 3 of us and this puts some distance between the 3 of us cause we are already being talked about.
Cam says this helps all of us, especially you two cause you two can win HOH and I will just go for the safety. (If it is the slip and slide).
This is a win win for all of us.
Hoping this is just something Cameron is spinning to Matt/Jag and would really put their butts on the block next week if he can stay and win HOH next week.
Jag replies that everyone is counting on him to use the VETO this week.
Cam says he thinks Bowie would be fine with him not using it this week
Jag: I'll just have to think thru it, I could lose a lot of people is I don't use it
Cam: it just screws Bowie if you use it. If she puts me on the block, you just lose a vote...If she puts up Blue, it will probably be ok, If she puts up Cory we lose a shield
Jag: You saying put Blue up and she goes home?
Cam: No, we control the votes
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 1:46 pm
These guys are not doing very good jury management. Voting a good player entails more than some strategy talks it includes putting your money where your mouth is. If you spend the whole game only trying to win a comp once in a while then why should they get his vote. Who really played a game. Cam's social game lacked. His trust of the wrong people was also his downfall. I don't think he anticipated such snakes, but his loyalty was not reciprocated by any of them. He won comps because he tried to win comps not only for himself but for those who continue to stab him in the back. I just like a person to win who has some integrity. I loved Taylor for the way she played the game with integrity and honesty. If Cam had a softer side he might have made better in roads, but I don't support fake people.
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Bubbles
Member
08-31-2008
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 1:53 pm
Grooch, Because of the many influencers on the internet, it makes me question the people that sign up for reality shows. This year a few of the HG'S already had lots of followers, so I'm sure BB was to enhance their popularity along with the possibility to win. I see it on the Challenge with Johnny Bananas where he lives off his reality winnings as well as many other people and shows that now do the same. There has been many past BB players that have been on The Challenge and other reality shows.
I miss the early days where the HGs came on to play the game and do the social experiment of living with strangers where they had no other agenda.. but I think those days are gone due to the internet.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:01 pm
Cameron MAY know the truth about Jag/Matt or at least suspect it because this is the same kind of pitch he has made before when he knew his game was threatened, especially when Jared put him up and out. "I would actually be a shield for the two of you"
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:02 pm
Me too Bubbles.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:02 pm
Interesting about playing in all veto comps. Some would of course welcome that, including those who win a lot, those who want to avoid being replacement nom, those who want to be seen as weak if they keep losing, those who want to set records and even those who just want all the costumes to sell later on ebay.
Cirie was never drawn to play and never houseguest choice. And not on the block. Seen as a non factor by some.
Jared being there was a wild card, good and A disaster for Cirie.
Cirie was used to bring in a larger fanbase, which might keep BB around longer. I have enjoyed seeing her social game, which would have likely been better without Jared. But would she have had Izzy? I think so, because Izzy was a fan.
I don't think anyone still in the house is a bad person.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:08 pm
He has been, Boberg. He should have just put up Cory and told them find someone else to be your shield. Jag has screwed him this whole game and is doing it again. I hate that Jag was saved, and didn't have to work for it like Cam did. What has Jag done, other than win a couple of vetos when his ass was possibly going up or to have a team carry him? Why because he has that soft voice that lulls us to sleep? When he starts that Jagitis crap you know he is trying to hide what he really means. All that head nodding they do and the Yeah Yeah or mmmm hmmmm stuff is an indicator that they are full of poop.
If they had any decency they would just tell him they don't want to work with him. I hate that it feels like he has to keep begging these horrible people.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:15 pm
Jag downloading to Bowie in scary room and told Bowie that Cam pitched Blue to go up. Jag says you put Cam on the block everyone is happy except Cam.
Bowie: yea, yea We need to tell Cirie this so she be comfortable and tell her this is going to be a blindside vote....you need to talk to Blue so she knows
Jag: afraid Blue will go straight to Cam and tell him
Bowie: I think she is smart enough to keep it to herself, otherwise she be in bad books with you and me
Matt joins them
Jag: what he said is good, cause he said he could go on the block and still have the votes to keep him (Jag, Matt, Blue) and then Bowie
THey head up to HOH for privacy
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:19 pm
Jag totally lying now about what Cameron said about Blue
Jag afraid that Blue will go tell Cameron if they tell her....Bowie insistent that Jag tell Blue. Jag tells Bowie to put a pause on that.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:21 pm
I was in total agreement about Cirie, Izzy, Felicia and Jared, but how are these people in that house any different. They are making up lies, that are almost cruel. So though I hated the fields family game, I hate the game these people are playing as well. I don't like DIRTY, that is who I am. So if I have to hope any of them sit in those two seats it will not be any of them. Felicia just says out loud what any of them would say if they weren't cowards. She also got played by the other three Fields and based her opinions on what she was told, just like Bowie is. I admit I would be a Bitter Betty on the jury.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:26 pm
Bowie, you clearly have not met Blue!
And Cam and Blue already know they are targets!
I am happy to have Cam leave, but if there is a switch make it Cory not Blue.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:27 pm
Jag's plan......tell Blue that Cameron was pitching her to go up and Bowie said NO. We say that Cam is gonna go up, we can cover our bases so that even cam won't be sus'd out. Tell Blue I am using the veto and that Cam pitched her to go up. We just say (after Cam is up) we can pretend we are having discussions about what to do, helps Cam not get sus'd
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:28 pm
But yes, put Jag on the spot about his lies.. Not so much that he doesn't use the veto.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:29 pm
But Cam has suggested that Blue go up in the past.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:33 pm
So is Bowie not questioning why Jag is trying to keep Blue from talking to Cam. I trust Blue to ask Cam if he did that and that is why Jag is scared. He is doing exactly what Cam said he would do, control her HOH, only Cam thought it would be Cory gaslighting her. So now he has two minions on top of all his alliances, while claiming Cam is in a bunch of alliances. He just tells them what to say and they do it. Cam would just tell her "just be Bowie, you will figure it out." He told her what he would do and why. She said it wasn't good for her game, so he said he trusted her to do what she wanted. He didn't have a fit, he was frustrated. More I think not that she wasn't doing what he wanted but that he knew she was afraid to make waves and that she would probably be talked into going against him. AND HE WAS RIGHT AGAIN.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:41 pm
I just don't understand why they are all lying to him. It is poor jury management, putting him through all that negotiating (and themselves), when it doesn't make a bit of difference to them.
Just say, hey man, you are the biggest threat in the house. We have to put you out when you don't win, or we may never get you out.
They may not be bad people, but they are being mean in this circumstance. And it's just not necessary.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:42 pm
I hope Cory wins next HoH and puts Jag/Matt on the block. I hope Jag gets evicted next and has to walk into Jury where Cam will happily greet him with open arms, saying: “TOLD ya!”
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:48 pm
Amen Kar. Calimom, I would be so happy.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:50 pm
Blue is still totally snowed by Matt/Jag and believe all they tell her. Blue is telling Cameron they have repeatedly said they prefer Cameron over Cory/America.
Jag has most everyone in that house snowed. I would think Matt would be offended by how bossy Jag is towards him but not seen it so far.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 2:59 pm
Bowie is saying how bad it is for people to lie just for the sake of lying… as she sits across from Jag, who spends HOURS coming up with elaborate lies to spin for NO REASON…
I’m assuming he hopes he’s seen as a “mastermind,” but he’s just being seen as a mean boy.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 3:09 pm
You just wait Bowie, won't you be surprised, when they send you packing. They will start lying to you from both sides, because they all think you are working with them. You didn't want drama...hahaha oh you got it now. Won't be long Blue will go to Jag and throw Cam under the bus and try to say she never trusted him. Jag is quite a manipulator, I hope those women throw them all out. Cam was your safety.
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Mimiaow
Member
05-29-2006
| Sunday, October 08, 2023 - 3:11 pm
Felicia folding her clean undies on the kitchen table while Cam is cooking something
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