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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 11:07 am 
I agree Mama. I don't buy it for one minute. I get not being able to leave a situation, so why all the flirting if that is the case? Cory and America are playing a toxic game and I for one can't wait until they are gone. They even said in their private conversations it is a strategy, are they baiting him?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 11:08 am
All that said.. What a dilemma. I tend to think that Cam has the right idea game wise and should backdoor Cory. He would have Matt and Cirie... I didn't hear what Bowie said because feeds fit away, but think she would go with Cam's request. Felicia is angry but surely would vote Cory out over MeMe. They would need Blue and I think she would vote Cory.
Jag, seemed to actually want to keep Cory.
America would want to keep Cory.
And Cory IS coming after Cam next (he is not alone, but more likely than Felicia to win a comp.. )
I personally am ok with Felicia leaving, as she has been most unpleasant, but I think Cam is right to strike now while he has POV.
I do hope he goes after that as a final two of Cam and Bowie is great for him, but not for viewing. He definitely is lying to her about only telling her about his backdoor Cory plan, when he already told Matt and Blue knows and later Jag, who is against it.
I think Jag would still vote Cory out with Felicia, Cirie, Matt and Blue.
Felicia was also the strongest bully critic of Bowie, even last night was raving about Bowie moving around to other rooms but leaving belongings in several rooms. That is a classic move that has been done in prior seasons.
At least this HOH has been interesting suddenly after it seeming to be a steamroller of Felicia.
And Felicia's reactions I think have alienated most of the remaining HG.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 11:13 am
The only reason Felicia is still there that she can't really do anything, and she is far from persuasive. Keep her a permanent pawn. Let her see how she likes it.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 11:34 am
Cirie sitting at the kitchen island, picking her teeth with a flosser, Mecole making something on the stove, her mic sounds mostly muffled, but BB won’t say anything since it’s so rare she talks! Matt walks in, mentioning he doesn’t feel good. They suggest he eat some soup.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 11:58 am
I kind of don't want Felicia to go to final two, though.. after initially seeming to be a character and entertaining, she was actually pretty negative and demanding even prior to being on the block with Izzy and assuming that she was a lock to stay.
I spent seven years on a rape crisis hotline and had a ton of training in domestic violence as well and victims get blamed all the time. And there is always the "why didn't she just leave" mantra. We watched Beast Mode Cowboy yearn for a female HG and got her evicted because she didn't go along, even verbally. America has talked to production and knows they are watching, they have talked to Cam and warned him, she is safe in a physical way and I agree that she uses flirting as a tool.. Cam uses telling people they are special as a tool (with Bowie, for instance). But the "Daddy" stuff just is unappealing.
Have we heard more this morning about what he is thinking?? I'm going to TVCH zoom and have been getting ready, so no feeds for me today so far. Anyway I guess things could keep changing between now and the veto ceremony tomorrow.
Jag should be careful.. he could also go up as he doesn't seem to want to go along with his main allies.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:05 pm
Cam and Bowie in storage room and Cam says they are going to play it safe this week. No change in noms
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:10 pm
Matt to HOH with Cameron and Matt says he is on board to get out Cory. Cam says but Jag is not on board and you are closest with him. Matt says Cory had 2 hour convo with Meme why can't Jag see that.
Seems Matt and Cam still would like to put Cory up and send him out but worried cause Jag not on board with that plan.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:15 pm
Jag and Matt had convo earlier today and Matt is NOT following the instructions Jag gave him. Jag told Matt to tell Cam that he is safe with Cory and America earlier......Matt not doing that.
Cam says Blue is really pushing him to get rid of Cory so Blue doesn't have to.
Cam says can't do this unless we get Jag on board, we have to do this as a team. Matt says Bowie is on board if we decide to do this. They count votes and know they have them but need to get Jag on board. They say only America will keep Cory, they have the votes to do this.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:20 pm
Sea, I am a survivor of molestation and I can tell you given a chance to stay away I would have. I certainly never would have been all over that man nor would I do a sexy dance for him in a room alone with the door closed. As for women not being believed, it is because of behaviors just like America is displaying. MOTIVE My son is Social Worker and sees girls pull this crap all the time. A man can go to jail simply because she said he touched her without permission, and if he can't afford bail, he stays in jail, until the DA decides to do something. Sometimes it takes years. Women and girls need to stop that behavior if they want to be heard. We should not be letting them get away with it simply because they are women. Women lie too.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:21 pm
Cam says everyone in this house wants Cory out except 2 people....America and .....Jag
Cam: you are going to have to talk to Jag....we cannot trust Blue to have the balls to take the shot at him...not sure we can trust Jag to do it. If we do it, we will be in Blue's good graces.
Cam: I have a gut feeling on this, as much as I want to stay on course, sometimes you have to adjust course when you see a threat.
Matt keeps encouraging Cory to be put up and out (I am so surprised he is playing his own game and not following Jag's instructions) Matt says later when they finish pool he will talk to Jag
Matt: It will be almost unanimous. The longer he stays no telling what he will do. Cory says he will go after Blue but don't trust that.
Cam We get him out and it is smoother for us
Matt: I think we do it
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:21 pm
Flip-flop
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I’m going day drinking with some friends, I’ll be checking in here to keep up, but hopefully I won’t feel inclined to post…🤭 🍹🍹🍹👀😜🙃🤪
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Mimiaow
Member
05-29-2006
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:23 pm
Cameron is blinded by Cory. He can take him out, but Felicia is still going to hate him.
Cam says if we do the Felicia thing, everything stay the same. If we pull that trigger, everyone will scramble.
Woohoo on the day drinking!!
I was out cutting back my clematis vines and listening. Now couch.
He's nervous about Jag. Matt says he is going to talk to him again and try and talk him into it.
Cam doesn't want to keep Cory just for a social game.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:32 pm
Matt says Cory been having convos where they rate players. He is doing that to put targets on our backs and talking about how some of us have not seen the block.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:47 pm
Mimiaow, someone upthread posted thatCory said if he (Cam) is in the final two, he will not vote for Cam no matter what. So, Cory and Felicia will both be hating on Cam. Better to get Cory out so Jag doesn't have Cory as a backup or shield.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:50 pm
Jag and Cory on hammock. Jag staying with the line that they have been reassuring Cameron that Cory and America are with them and not after Cameron.
Cory says he thinks Cameron is trying to play the middle btw Matt/Jag and Cory/America
Jag straight up asks Cory who is his ideal person to leave next week? Cory pushes Cam to leave next week says he is been in this game too long.
Cory tells Jag that he thinks Cameron feels better with Cory and America because he knows he can beat them. In fact Cory says Cam has said that to him and told him that having him around will help keep them safe.
ONCE AGAIN Cory talks way too much for his own game.
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Mimiaow
Member
05-29-2006
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:51 pm
Yep, get Cory now. I think he's set on Cory.
America and Cirie talking. Cirie is trying now to tell her much. Says she would ask people who they would put up to help her know. Cirie says she feels good with her and Skeezy.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 12:54 pm
Jag: I don't know, probably depends on how convo goes this week. I don't know for sure if I am willing to do that. Depends on if relationships are a lot worse.
Cory: Do you agree with Cam being the target?
Jag: hhhmmmm Maybe, dude just keeps on winning comps
KEEP TALKING CORY......you are running yourself under the bus dude!
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 1:03 pm
Matt comes out to break this up.
Cory starts repeating what he has been telling Jag about Cameron playing the middle and telling Cory that he (Cam) can win comps for them towards the end.
Cory: Probably better .......
Felicia comes out and Cory complaining it is too hot and goes in to change.
Felicia says would you consider voting for me to stay
Jag: giving it a consideration, I can see pros for both. I haven't decided, matter of continued conversations. Every week it gets tougher and tougher, but yea
Felicia: I just want to help you guys get further in the game, I realize I can't beat you in comps and thats ok. I am willing to help you get rid of other plays to further your game.
HAHAHAHA
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 1:07 pm
Matt doesn't say a word just picks his teeth.
Felicia: I am just advocating for myself, I would never said a bad word against Meme....whoooo it is hot out here. Feeds change.
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Mimiaow
Member
05-29-2006
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 1:28 pm
Cory throwing Cirie under the bus in the kitchen with Cam. I don't think Cam wants to talk to him.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 1:31 pm
Mimiaow I watching the convo also and I think Cory is talking himself right onto the block.
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Worldtraveller
Member
06-26-2019
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 1:34 pm
I saved the first episode of this season to rewatch the HG introductions. Cory has won many public speaking and communication awards while at college.
He even teaches courses. He was pretty pompous in his introduction. He shows it in the house as the omniscient guy who is never wrong. He has no off switch, he is annoying.
Also America and Blue both stated that a showmance was a welcome ploy for their game.
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Worldtraveller
Member
06-26-2019
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 1:37 pm
Cameron's calm stare down at Cory in the kitchen right now while Cory can't stop talking. Love it.
You can tell Cory is nervous that Cam is giving him nothing.
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Mimiaow
Member
05-29-2006
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 1:38 pm
Yep, Cory even told Cam sometimes he doesn't know when to shut up.
Ya think, Cory? He is digging his grave.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, October 01, 2023 - 1:42 pm
Looking forward to when Matt gets out of DR and has time to talk to Jag privately.......
Looking forward to Cam maybe sharing his reaction to the interaction with Cory......
looking forward to aftermath of Veto ceremony tomorrow.
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