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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 12:07 pm 
Are any of them discussing this week, or next week? If they are not talking about this week I think that is a mistake. Are they throwing each other under the bus for next week, thinking this week is Cam. Would they reveal secrets before the veto is even used? Questions for the ages...lol I know Cam and Bowie are step by step players and America might be as well. I don't know though.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 12:09 pm
Jag says he will let America/Cory decide who he takes down. If they want him to make the decision, he is taking Cory down.
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Maris
Member
03-27-2002
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 12:12 pm
Luckily only 20 minute delay. At this point they are smart to do nothing unless they can convince Cirie that noms should remain the same and I don’t see that happening. Cam waits to be put up and then he goes to work
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 12:48 pm
Anybody hear the conversation between Matt and Cam. And why are they in the HOH?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:02 pm
Rewinding it now to listen.
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:03 pm
I really hope Matt is not really thinking about what Cam is spewing .. Cam has been telling Matt he's essentially a sheep or lemming.. at least he stopped saying people who are not thinking Cam's way is Dumb.. although he said something similar...
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:07 pm
Earthmother, they are all, or most of them, discussing this week, next week and beyond. Jared, Cirie, Felicia, Cory, America especially aware that there probably will be a double eviction next and they are correct. All are concerned with a battle back that could include Cameron.
Worldtraveler, in the thread for the wall comp and in Interesting House Happenings thread we have exact times when each houseguest fell off the wall. At the end it was Blue, Bowie and Jared. Blue fell (maybe felt safe, but all three were not looking solid) Bowie then Jared almost simultaneously.
The wall is not the same. The hand holds cause shorter and taller players to not be able to hold and avoid leaning forward, more gunk and water negates the method Taylor Hale used having long sleeves to help with grip. They all had long sleeves this time but couldn't hold on. And we have more of them throwing comps, which isn't caused by Cirie or Jared.
As for the mean girls talk, I agree that isn't pleasant. Izzy was especially obvious about Bowie but Felicia does more smack talk, facial gagging about Bowie than anyone.
Felicia also snores loudly, sings or talks in her sleep, farts..
Matt apparently snores, which is why he chooses the have not room when he can do that.
Jared snores. He was sleeping before 10pm last night and snoring. BB kept talking to him. Matt was in the HOH toilet, came out and grabbed a pillow and threw it to wake Jared up, then the BB voice asked if Matt had washed his hands. By then Matt was hand washing and laughed to BB that he was helping them.
Cam has already made a pitch to Jared that if he stayed he would still be a target but would vote for Jared on jury. Jared wasn't buying that. I think it is a done deal that Jag will use the veto.
Looking forward to seeing this veto. They all agree that it was fun, and between Cam, who came in second and Jag, it was the method of pouring liquid that made the difference. Jag poured toward himself and could aim to lose less water, Cam was careful but poured away from himself. Jared was third. Did Cory throw it? Did America? Bowie?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:11 pm
Cam asks Matt if he has a shot. Matt says yes.
Cam says if I don't, I'll just go gracefully. Matt says *I* am willing to take a shot, try to get them on board too.
M: I just know Fel and Cir are with Jared, so ...
C: I'm not saying to knock one of them out, just leave the noms the same. If I win HOH next week, I will allow the collective to tell me who to nominate (between the 4 of you). Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
M: Yeah. And that's something you could say to Jared, you can't play next week, you could offer to play for him. If I couldn't play, I'd want you playing for me.
C: that's the only pitch I got.
M: It's a pretty good pitch.
C: and we get to bust up a couple that is coming after them. And the remaining comps are going to be very mental. Jag is an athletic comp, and Jared, and Blue. I've shown I can do other things.
M: look at this veto.
C: it's so clear to me, but people are going to do what they are being told to do.
M: mumble... before it's too late.
C: I just want another week, and we bust up the tightest bond in this house, this duo. Talks about the other duos already broken up, Reilly/Jag, Hisam/everyone (lol), Izzy/Cirie. We need to bust up Cor/Amer.
M: Agreed.
C: I know it's a lot to think about.
M: Says, oh, I've been thinking about it.
C: don't just go with the motions. It's not a move. it's a good thing for this week, that's what everyone is thinking. But it's not good for everyone else's game.
C: you just gotta be bold.
M: Jared has got to be bold.
My impression: Matt is doing what he usually does, agreeing, saying he says their point, they are right, blah, blah, blah. Then he'll go and spill to Cirie (and maybe Jared).
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:11 pm
Hasn't he been though Needmylifeback? He didn't save Jag out of loyalty he saved him on the advice of Cirie? Matt has never made a decision on his own.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:11 pm
I would think of all of them, Jag isn't throwing comps. He is acutely aware that his family is watching and their approval is important to him. He mentioned that his POV win he hopes will please them after what he described as poor performance on the wall comp.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:17 pm
Thank you Kar. Lot for Matt to think about.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:19 pm
Matt said to Jared last night that when everyone is chatting, he has to work harder to understand and he just tunes out. He had come up to HOH to hang out with Jared.
Later when Jared, Blue and Matt were talking, Jared said to Blue that he was aiming his face toward Matt so Matt could see his lips, and not looking at Blue.
I imagine Cam can be overwhelming and I would just go along too. As for Cam, he will try to stay until he walks out, as he should.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:21 pm
I just want them all to play Sea. The only ones I don't want to have a chance to win or even get to jury is Jared. I want to see how much magic Ciere and Cam can spin in Jury with no horse in the game.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:25 pm
Earth: nope. Straight to Jag and Jared and spilled, just like I predicted.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:25 pm
And by the way, I really detested them making fun of Cam for trying.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:26 pm
Seamonkey: there was nothing overwhelming about the convo. Matt participated fully, and just echoed Cam. Cam gave him lots of opportunities to talk.
Matt just lied to his face. that's the game I guess.
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:47 pm
PERIOD!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:49 pm
Cam now talking to Blue. Again, letting people talk and say what they think.
Blue is honest, I have tried to work with you since week 3, but never felt like I got cooperation with you.
Cam says I wasn't allowed to like you because of the alliance I was in. It was drilled into my head that I had to nom you.
Those commitments are over. The house is blown wide open.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:52 pm
Cam says I can apologize now.
Blue says that's fair. Jag made a deal with you.
Cam says I made a deal with him, it's up to him to keep it. Cam says I honored that deal. If he uses the power of veto, that means he didn't honor his side. I get that he has to play his game, but I still see it as not honoring the deal.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:52 pm
Matt has, what seems to me, a deep hatred for both Cam and America. He wants Cam gone.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:58 pm
Grooch, you can dislike people, and that's fine. What I detest is the laughing about them behind their backs after lying to their face.
Cam said: tell me the truth... if there's no hope, we'll just have a nice week and that's it. And Matt still lied to him, then went to Jared/Jag and made fun of him.
I think I need to go back to my positivity thread... LOL.
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Mimiaow
Member
05-29-2006
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:58 pm
Cam is going to be so mad when he finds out about Cirie and Jared. He's telling Blue to keep him and he'll take all of 'them' down. Too bad it's Blue's MIL he's talking about.
I also dislike them laughing at him. He's got to try.
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 1:59 pm
Cam is at least a week (really two) behind on the configuration of the house.
But, he needs "Just one more week" (Actually three...but he doesn't know that.)
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 2:01 pm
Back home after seeing an impressive small community theater musical, The Last Five Years. I love my new town!
Doesn't look like much happened other than Cam CAMpaigning.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Sunday, September 17, 2023 - 2:02 pm
Need, I think he just wants to make it to jury at this point for the stipend.
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