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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 10:46 am 
I hope Cameron doesn't play these mind games in real life, with his daughter. He always knows it all, doesn't listen to anyone, except that Red talked him down on a couple of decisions. But even with his allies (Red and now Bowie) he doesn't share.
I am guessing he has big trust issues, and playing this game, it can be hard to trust, but also hard being a lone wolf. In real life he is a single dad. I don't think we know what happened with his daughter's mother (and that is better not put out on national tv, so we shouldn't know).
Why do I expect that feeds will come back with a regular sized veto around Cam's neck?
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 10:51 am
The VETO on Cam's neck would be the most interesting for me! Would he take the shot at Cirie? Would he leave them the same? Is he BSing Jared and would he take the shot at him? I think no one else will use it, except for Izzy and Felicia on themselves.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 10:52 am
Oh and he talks about Mecole as bing the 4th in that group. Would he take a shot at her?
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 10:55 am
Just because Cam told Bowie he trusts Jared doesn’t necessarily make it true. Remember, he had also told her the noms would be Blue/Jag, with America as the RN.. he told her he is keeping stuff from her, so she won’t have to “lie/mislead” their opponents. I’m sure he sees right through Jared. Jared is a horrible speaker and an even worse liar. He has many “tells,” I’m sure Cam saw it all!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 11:06 am
Mamapors, yesterday he told America that the next 2 are Cirie and MeMe, so if he was telling the truth, yes, he might take a shot at her.
Cali - I hope you are right about Jared, but the only way we know anything we Cam... well, we don't know anything about the way Cam sees things... LOL.
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Sassyza
Member
09-03-2009
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 11:25 am
Hi Calimom…. I am in total agreement with everything you said. After what we saw Cam saying to all before nominations, I don’t know how anyone can think there isn’t a possibility, a big possibility, that he would put up Jared if the veto winner takes one of the others down. I would not be surprised if that is what he’s aiming to do.
I’m not understanding the dislike of Cam. He seems to be playing the game the way many of us for years have said we want someone to play. Take it all in and not say anything. Anyone who doesn’t think he listens to people I think is totally wrong. I think he listens to every word and keeps it filed. I also think he is purposely not telling Bowie anything, and I don’t believe it is out of distrust for her, but more protection for her. Correct me if I’m wrong, but has Bowie said anything negative about Cam? I think she totally trusts him.
I hope after this week, others will drop away from one of the many Cirie/Jared/Izzy alliances and realize they can have numbers to turn the game around.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 11:29 am
I find Cameron to be a little angry, and he has a right to be.
I think prior to Red's eviction, he was more compliant in conversations. Now he's not 100% sure who he can trust, so yeah, he's not going to trust them or really listen to them.
And as for not listening, he let Jag spew and spew and spew for the longest time yesterday, just to "listen" to Jag dig himself into a hole. He listens.
You can't really judge his behavior now given how badly he feels betrayed. Anyone feeling that badly betrayed is going to act out some. And especially when you're not sure who you can trust!
To imply that he treats his family that way is a step too far. I hate it when we do that. The way people act in BB is often a far cry from how they behave in real life.
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Worldtraveller
Member
06-26-2019
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 11:38 am
I'm happy that Cam is going stealth on his HOH, there is no way Cirie is wasting 100 days of her life to not make it to the final. Of course she made deals with the producer. How many times was she brought back on Survivor to finally win, which she didn't. I stopped watching Survivor for years because Boston Rob and his future wife was forced on us until they won the money. This the reason I hate this about "reality" tv. Especially BB, its pre ordained almost always.
Really hope Cam can mist his own way past Cirie.
Jared has to go soon, listening to him speak to Cam in the HOH an hour ago, I could smell my brain cells melting. Drinking game with "bro" being said, dead in 10 minutes.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 11:49 am
I do not for one sec believe BB is fixed. Or I would not keep watching. Do they have favorites? Do they lead in the Dr? YES they do.
But at the end of the day, they have no control over who wins comps, what they ultimately do. They can make comps that they think are easier for someone to win, but they can not make it happen.
They have. no control over who talks to whom, what is said, who they align with.
And bringing Cirie back to Survivor 3 times was good on them. She was fun to watch!
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 11:52 am
I do not like some of the behaviors, and I find it a character trait I do not like but this is a game. Everyone plays differently. I don't usually support those players, however. Being able to make up a believable lie on the fly gives me pause. I do not however agree that those behaviors in a game are how they behave at home or with their own families. I think bullying, threatening and destroying someone's name is unacceptable, and I admit I do judge those behaviors when voting for AFP. I have to accept that everyone beats to a different drum.
I think Cam is angry, I think Izzy is angry, through the process of trying to win a game they risk having to leave a game they love and respect. But Izzy has not had to face the same treatment or judgement he has. He has a right to eliminate them one by one and if they are humiliated so be it, they didn't have a problem when doing it to him, they actually found it quite funny. There are a number of things he could have said and done to get them back, but instead he is playing a respectful game of "keeping my mouth shut"..I RESPECT THAT. He is being a good role model for his daughter. Jared's behavior tells me all I need to surmise how Cirie raised him.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 12:03 pm
Want to add JUST MY OPINION.
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Bubbles
Member
08-31-2008
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 12:13 pm
I'm not sure if Cam knows that Jared lied to Red telling him that Cam stabbed him in the back and that's why Red was so angry and hurt by Cam. If Cam knows this, I believe he will put up Jared if veto is played. Unfortunately I think most will vote out Felicia and then Cam will be in major trouble with Ciries clan and if any of them win next week Cam will be the target.
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Worldtraveller
Member
06-26-2019
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 12:16 pm
I never stated that the shows are "fixed", I am not a fan of so called fan favorites being brought back to finally win the money. Look who won the Amazing Race last season, did they deserve it, hell yea, but this viewer is not a fan of seeing repeats. And I liked both of them on BB.
I can easily change the channel, which I do.
Cam looks like Mr. Kotter on Welcome Back Kotter.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 12:29 pm
Here's a picture of Cam with short hair.
Link
(The picture isn't fuzzy at the link.)
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 12:33 pm
Worldtraveller we all have things we like or don't like. I agree if I don't like it I have a choice to not watch. So far only 2 seasons in of this show I have had to stop watching, it was too toxic. Most things however are not earth shattering and I forget about it the next season.
I do not like retreads either. I also do not like battle backs. I think when you are evicted then you should be done. Unless you are Joseph from last year, because he was so darn good looking...DO NOT refer to me as a pervert. hahahaha I'm old enough to be his grandma.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 12:37 pm
I think Cam is very good looking, under all that hair.
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 12:45 pm
Any hints on what the veto comp is?
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 12:49 pm
Both Cam and Red looked so different when they were in the military.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 12:52 pm
I also thought Red was not bad looking under all his hair!!
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Bubbles
Member
08-31-2008
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 1:02 pm
I agree, Cam is a nice looking guy under all of that hair, and he may have been correct to grow it out since he wanted an edge because he did not make it last year for BB, but did for this year (with the hair)
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Mimiaow
Member
05-29-2006
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 1:06 pm
He looks so much better without all the hair!!
I'm enjoying this season a lot, but I don't have a horse in the race.
I'd rather Cam stay over Jared. I wish he would backdoor Jared.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 1:08 pm
Christii- only that it's probably Buddy Games themed since Josh Duhmael is hosting (I don't know that they twigged onto the fact they didn't choose a host after the veto draw..)
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 1:09 pm
EM, FYI, Cam said once to the other HGs he has *always* had his hair in a fade, never this long.
So, it makes me wonder if he was encouraged to grow it out?
ETA: Oh, I see Bubbles had more info... thanks!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 1:19 pm
Christii.. My only guess is the veto will incorporate humiliation (likely something messy) and will have a Buddy Games theme.. Playing in pairs has been suggested by viewers, but really, who knows? Some have guessed it might be time for OTEV.. If that is true, I expect Cam to do well (but he seems to do well at a variety of comp).
Cam might process what he hears, but with most of his one on ones, he played his mind game and didn't seem to ask questions, so there wasn't much he could learn.
And hate my words, but I do wonder about how life experiences have created the people we see here in the house. Cam's military service in a war zone cannot help be have shaped who he is and how he reacts. Being a single dad, which he loves, had to have happened for a reason that left him and daughter with no partner and no mom. He came is calling himself "Dad" and still talks that role.
Cirie and Felicia are moms and don't drop that at the door. Cirie having her son there makes that even harder to drop.
Jag identifies strongly with Sikhs being those who help, who make people safe. And he plays that way and is hurt when he isn't treated kindly (being voted out by everyone).
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Saturday, September 09, 2023 - 1:24 pm
ohhh that makes sense Wilson! Probably why its 2 hours as well
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