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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 12:45 pm 
Karuuna, when a woman says her occupation is a stripper and a man says his occupation is a stripper, you generally get two completely different reactions.
I've seen a plethora of different reactions, almost all of them lewd, to both... so I'm not sure what you are talking about.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 12:47 pm
Sexist is sexist, no matter what the remark is. Heck, Izzy even said something like "I want some of that" in reference to Matt with the slime.
And we don't know that others aren't saying that the men aren't being flirtatious. We sure don't see 24/7 no matter what they advertise.
I just think there is a huge double standard. That. is. all.
Back to today's events: I don't want Red to leave!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 12:50 pm
Yes, objectification is bad, period. Why is it just shrugged off when America is the object?
She has been called the R word by Jared, the B word by Matt, A hoe by Felicia, A hussy, a tease, the reason for Cam's obsession by Cam and Red.
Cam was equally obsessed with Reilly but he didn't blame her, just said she was his daughter.
Grocery for me .. Need food.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 12:52 pm
A woman being a stripper is generally thought of in a negative light, not an occupation you would want for your daughter. For a man, it's a compliment.
If a woman sleeps around she's considered a ***** A man sleeping around is a stud.
It has always been this way. A woman is the one who suffers from sexual harassment in life changing, detrimental ways. Not saying that men never suffer it, but men are the perpetrators in most cases.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 12:56 pm
Seamonkey, I'm not shrugging it off, so not sure who that was directed to?
For a man, it's a compliment.
Not in my circles. Not sure who run with. 
All I'm saying is that I'm sure those comments make Matt uncomfortable. Shouldn't that be the criteria?
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Stray_cat
Member
06-21-2006
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 12:57 pm
Further to what Boberg is saying regarding Cirie:
There has been some outrage of Cirie immitating Matt's voice. Some have said she has done it a couple times, I've only seen this one time and it's quick.
I'm not sure if she's just ticked off and mimicking Matt versus making fun of the way he speaks as Jared doesn't react. Regardless, it's not a great look for Cirie.
This is at 1:01 of this clip.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1699256256723083278
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:01 pm
Seamonkey yes Cirie is human and yes we all do those things but we don't all do them in public or around others. For myself only, when someone around me thinks it is ok to purposely fart and belch around me, I know they are not someone I want in my circles. I was not raised to be rude like that and I find it disrespectful.
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Pattie444
Member
07-03-2005
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:04 pm
The only spot in public I feel it is safe to fart is in the bathroom. I have no problem letting it out even if there are many stalls. Isn't that what the bathroom is for?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:10 pm
I don't think Cirie imitating Matt is any different than her imitating Red or Cameron or whomever. I understand it's more sensitive because of his disability, but I don't think she intends it that way.
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Mimiaow
Member
05-29-2006
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:22 pm
I feel bad for Red. He was ready to be loyal, and they are stabbing him in the back. Gosh I wish Cameron could have been taken out this week.
Red was looking at a cupcake from his birthday and Felicia told him he could take it home with him, and Bowie said he could eat it tomorrow. Felicia got up and left. She is trouble.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:25 pm
Mimi, I feel bad for him too. They destroyed him by lying to him about Cameron, and they are lying to him about keeping him.
He's just too nice for this game.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:34 pm
Feeds back!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:40 pm
Cirie and Matt whispering, I can't understand what they are saying, especially in the midst of Cirie's crunching! Mr. B... please stop giving them crunchy snacks!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:40 pm
Oh, I did hear Cirie say to Matt "nice thighs" when he tried on his pants for this evening.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:42 pm
I think it depends on the man and the woman and the context. I think girls and women like to look at a handsome well built man like most of us do. Bodies have been a beautiful form of art since the beginning of time. When with a group of other women, most women can be quite crude. Most men think strippers are fine, but don't want their friends, daughters and women they respect doing it. That is just a reality. What you tolerate from strangers you don't necessary tolerate from those you care about. I think Cam really likes America and respects her as a woman, just like he did Reily.
As for Cam being anything but a man who has a daughter and a little older and maybe hurt by a women who has used wiles on him, who knows. When my sons had their daughters, boy did they change. In his defense, I have not seen or heard ANY indication that he is in any way using sexual advances toward America, just that he likes her.
I have raised girls (foster parent), beautiful young dating age girls, who were sisters to my boys and their friends. Those same boys will make comments about random girls, who were showing them everything but the kitchen sink. If my girls did that or their female friends did that, those boys would tell her to "put some clothes on, don't invite trouble". I don't find that sexualizing I call it trying to protect. Is Cory sexualizing America or vice versa, is Jared sexualizing Blue?
Cam is quite aware he is on camera and is not a stupid man. He has no idea this is what has been said about him and he will be crushed and embarrassed, I'm sure. I hope his daughter doesn't get wind of this character assignation. It really is criminal in my opinion to label someone something so horrific when you have NO PROOF, but the word of a girl in a game with a man everyone is demonizing for their own agenda. Red did not trust her and for good reason, GAME.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:45 pm
hamsterwatch #bb25
@hamsterwatch
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3m
Felicia told Jared they're voting out Jag now..
Jared: "gotcha, let's do it"
So it flipped?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:47 pm
Mamapors, I think they are setting up Felicia to be a rogue vote? That was my impression, so they could target her later?
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:53 pm
Cirie, Izzy, Jared, etc are going to blame Felicia and Meme for the 2 votes against Jag. Framing their own alliance members is apparently a new strategy, since there are non alliance members to blame, but whatevs.
With Cam and Bowie voting out Jag, they could be taking a risk, but they are very confident that they are in control.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:53 pm
Or did Felicia agree to be the fourth vote, so they can blame their next four victims? not realizing she is one of them.
Izzy, Cirie and Jared talked a long time yesterday without inviting Felicia. They discussed her as in line to go after the first three on their hit list. I admit I am confused.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:55 pm
Wow, that plan can go wrong on so many levels! Thanks guys.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:57 pm
EM, I am also confused. At least we will not have a unanimous vote this time, so that’s a plus!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 1:59 pm
Yeah, we missed too much of the conversation to be clear I think. At least I did.
But that's my best take on it at the moment, that some people are being set up to vote Jag out, while Red is being voted out.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 2:02 pm
I am still unsure if the mamas and Izzy know Jared has a final two with Cory. I know they want to target, Cam, Jag, America and have mentioned Cory and now Felicia. That is why they needed 4. Meme and Bowie are a waste right now. But after this morning they think they lost Meme, and need to target her, because she is onto Matt.
I am not sure how long this tangled web will last as others start to see the forest for the trees.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 2:06 pm
I realized I used the wrong word in my post above. “Framed” is not right, they are SETTING UP Felicia and Meme to vote out Jag, while the rest of their alliance votes out Red. Which is still bad.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 07, 2023 - 2:11 pm
Yeah, I still don't understand what they are trying to achieve tho.
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