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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:34 pm 
With feeds cut so often and conversations edited so heavily it manages to get a pass. They know he said it, but to save themselves they will use this excuse.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:35 pm
Hahahaha, Rosem. People surely would be outraged by "rude", heck Kar would have to ban most of us. LOL
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:41 pm
Feeds back!
Jared, Blue and Jag in the HOH room, with Jared lamenting to Jag that if he doesn't win next week then he is going home.
Telling this to Jag who he is sending home THIS WEEK.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:42 pm
Jared is talking to Jag about how the 7 are going to go forward.
Jared has said the word 'seven' about 30 times now.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:44 pm
EM. 
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:45 pm
Jared to Jag: "Unless someone from within the seven make themselves targets..."
Setting Jag up for the reason that he will be evicted this week.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:45 pm
Feeds are back on 3 & 4. Jag and Jared are talking in the HOH room.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:49 pm
Jared and Jag agree that no one is going to take a shot at one of the 7.
"People have to be careful of what they are saying"
"We have a really solid group (the 7)"
Jared is saying all of this knowing full well that they are voting Jag out. He is talking way too much, though.
Ugh - Jared says he (Jared) needs to go talk to Cory.
(NO, no you don't, Jared!!)
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:54 pm
I am not sure of anything I don't know.
As for Cam, what he is doing to America is classic sexual harassment. Following her around. Telling her he is obsessed with her and blaming her personality, her clothing and her relationship with Cory. She has complained about this and production does nothing, just like they have done in the past. They block feeds when she talks about it. Felicia has labelled her a hoe, Matt called her a •••••, Red blames her as a buddy tempting poor Cameron. And they want her out.
The mob mentality is directed at America.
And this situation illustrates why those being sexually harassed don't tell. She is stuck in a house, in a game, where complaining can be used as a reason to be voted out by those in power (as happens in workplace situations where someone has more power). Cameron has also mentioned to America that there are no cameras in the jury house wink wink.
But maybe that is in Cirie's contract, too?
Cirie made it far in Survivor, but didn't win comps, or the game.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:55 pm
Jared running his mouth to Jag not knowing Jag already knows, because Matt told him, that Ciere and Jared knew he had the power and he was going to use it. Now Jag is just letting him dig his own hole. HOUSE MEETING, PUT IT ALL OUT ON THE TABLE.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 12:58 pm
All these insecure men, scared of a young woman who hasn't even won anything.
Taran mentioned that Cirie is playing this game on 'hard mode' and one of his co-hosts pointed out that AMERICA is the one playing on 'TRUE hard mode'.
She may be sexually harassed right out of the house. 
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:03 pm
I don't blame anyone based on someone else just saying so. If Cam is doing that then BB needs to deal with it. But can you guarantee America is just not trying to distance herself and making comments without thinking about the ramifications. I have raised and worked with many women who have done that and nearly ruined young men, with 0 proof. I will believe it if I hear it, but that is a dangerous road to go down. As a survivor of sexual abuse in my past there are many reasons we don't tell, most of it is threats. Using a woman's word over any actual facts is also why men go to jail and then the girl recounts after she has ruined his life. Being a woman does not mean you are automatically telling the truth. Those women who do that are not helping true victims because they cause doubt.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:04 pm
Matt in the hammock, Cameron sitting on the ground. Asks Matt how Jag is doing, Matt tells him 'I think he's shocked"
Cam says 'SHOCKED, really? even though y'all had to calm him down last night?"
Matt, 'Well, yeah, he didn't know he was going up.'
Matt says 'Jag thought it was going to be Bowie'.
(this is all lies from Matt - Jag knew he was going up)
I think Cam is suspicious.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:04 pm
Let the flip flopping commence.
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Worldtraveller
Member
06-26-2019
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:05 pm
Thank you for the Cirie Survivor answers, have to admit I had to Google Traitors.
Mommy and the producers won't let Jared go anywhere.
We all know Jared mumbles but rude and the other word aren't even close.
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Pattie444
Member
07-03-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:05 pm
My thoughts on some of these players.
Most if not all of them cannot keep a secret.
Jared has dreams of moving to Los Angeles assuming he will be a big reality star after this. He will always be in his Moms shadow. He is a fool and my least favorite player.
Blue and America are playing a similar game, both tell lies and make stuff up and are trying be play both sides. Neither have the skills to do it right.
I think Izzy and Felisha are both out of control and overshare too much, not knowing they are digging a early grave.
Cory is interesting and could go far but is always in a minefield of BS.
Jag could have a chance if he makes it through this week.
I feel for Matt. He is too trusting of the wrong person, not that any of them could be trusted but got caught up falling for Reilly and that is always on his mind.
Red and Cam will not last long unless they win a comp to save themselves. Red has been growing on me but Cam is only fun to watch cuz he thinks he knows everything yet knows nothing.
Bowie and Meme are meh. Time to start playing the game.
I respect Cerie because she can mist them. The hard part is everyone wants to tell her everything and wants to find her to find her in. Being so popular in there is a hard job. I see her blowing up soon.
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Worldtraveller
Member
06-26-2019
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:11 pm
Thank you for the Cirie Survivor answers, have to admit I had to Google Traitors.
Mommy and the producers won't let Jared go anywhere.
We all know Jared mumbles but rude and the other word aren't even close.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:13 pm
Exactly how can America distance herself while locked in a house with this guy who says he is obsessed with her (and was obsessed with Reilly)?
But yes, typically, women (and more men who are harrassed) are not believed (same with children).
Some of this has been on camera when they don't go to vortex fast enough.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:15 pm
Cirie and Izzy are in the bathroom area discussing, guess who?
AMERICA!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:15 pm
seamonkey, I have to confess, I don't see everything, but I have yet to see one thing that you talked about re America/Cameron. Not one?
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:16 pm
And now Cory is being blamed for telling America information.
Jared started all of this, and a lot of it is untrue. Cirie and Izzy believe every word of it though, and that's all that matters.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:21 pm
I heard Cameron tell America that she needs to wear more clothes. He told her that she is playing with Cory's feelings.
His entire demeanor around America is hostile. He was 'teasing' her in front of a few other HG that there was 'porn' going on in the bed in the scary BR that America and Cory slept in the other night. Inferring that they were having sex, America laughs it off, saying 'we weren't doing anything!' But the giggling continued, with Cam saying 'it was hard to sleep, I was in the other bed, ha ha ha'
This is just some of what I have witnessed from Cameron. I'm sure there's more, but it's all I can remember at the moment.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:22 pm
If America is trying to distance and claims being followed the why in the last two days has she come up to him, sitting quietly by himself and struck up a conversation with him? Just sayin. sounds like she might just be stalking him. We will never know for sure, but to make those comments on national TV with NO proof is not fair, and he will have to face the consequences, even if what she says was only for game.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:24 pm
I think that would make me uncomfortable Rosem. I don't want to be in a room during a private sexual moment.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Monday, September 04, 2023 - 1:25 pm
Uh, Oh! Disaster in the HOH room!
They lost the remote.
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