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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 12:35 am 
Jared says that Cameron is the pawn and he knows it. He wanted to have a week off.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 12:40 am
Blue still whispering with Jag. Cameron walks in and suddenly there is silence. Cameron grabs his stuff and leaves.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 12:47 am
Blue and Jag are analyzing Cory and America's game.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 12:50 am
Jag: How much do you trust Matt?
Blue: I trust Matt.
Jag: I trust Matt. I can talk to him.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 12:52 am
Feeds 1 & 2 are now on the backyard and Matt and Cameron are playing pool. I can see Felicia talking with either Mecole or Cerie on the outside couches.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 12:56 am
Lots of game talk still going on between Jag and Blue. I need to turn in for the evening.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 1:08 am
Feeds 3 and 4 are Jared and Blue in the HOH room. Blue tells Jared about her conversation with Jag.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 1:10 am
Feeds 1 & 2 are on Matt talking with Mecole on the outside couches.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 1:16 am
Mecole tells Matt, so you're going to use this power to save someone else and not yourself? That's silly.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 4:03 am
Just to clarify my misunderstanding of Veganking post at 1:16am....Matt did not tell Mecole he got the power and he used it. They were having convo about people making assumptions. Matt said several people have said he used the power. Matt then said, but I have made some assumptions too like Jag won and used it or Cory or America. Mecole's statement was in response to assumptions and her not believeing someone would win it and use it on someone else when they might need it for themselves in the next few weeks cause no one is safe.
I may be the only one that misunderstood Veganking 's post so forgive this clarification if that is the case.
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Tressa1645
Member
07-03-2014
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 4:50 am
also a very very long conversation in bathroom with America and Jag, he seems to be saying he trusts no one after they all lied to him and voted him out, after saying he was safe, it went on for a long time and does not seem like he trusts her or COry, says he has to talk to everyone and decide whom he will trust, they were whispering so hard to pick it all up, America seemed to be posing for the mirrors more than trying to convince him of the truth
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 4:53 am
Jag and America in BR talking and America explains the groups as she sees them: Red, Cameron, Bowie have a group, Matt, Jag, America, and Cory in the middle of those two groups and everyone else in a strong group that is loyal to each other(everyone else is Mecole, Cirie, Izzy, Jared, Felicia)
America has a good grasp of what is going on.
Jag, America, and Cory have talked working together and keeping this convo private. Jag recognizes some who said they would vote for him did not.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 4:58 am
America points out to Jag that if the 5 of them (Cirie's 5) had said they wanted to keep Jag do you think me and Cory would have said No? AMerica says that she found out from Cirie that they were not keeping Jag. America tells Jag that she told Cirie that she wanted to tell Jag but that Cirie said no it should be a couple of us that tell Jag. America: "the way I see it, she was just wanting to cover their a$$. WBRB
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 5:09 am
Jag and America agree they still have to play along with "them" for now. Jag says, the thing is I don't know your relationship with Blue. America says she is ok with that. That her relationship is not that close with Blue and not as close as her relationship with Jag. America says she feels she can't trust her because everything she tells her goes to Pooh. Jag says how do we figure this out. We need to continue conversations and work this out.
America the only path forward is to nod and agree with them. Their pattern has been to say your not the target while picking the target every single week. AMerica points out how telling the game was today. America: we have to play nice and smile and go along with what they say.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 5:13 am
I wonder does Jag know who saved him? Matt has remained loyal to his original alliance with this action. Using his power was not that dangerous for him because he is in the best place now but it was very generous, loyal, and kind.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 5:16 am
After a discussion about the end of the Pressure Cooker and what was said between America and Cam they leave and we then get feeds of sleeping HG. Today should be interesting for Jag to watch people and see what the 5 have to say to him. Noms will be obvious and boring.
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Aabeepbeep
Member
01-26-2006
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 6:01 am
Boberg- I had wondered if he told him as well, earlier in the HOH room Matt was talking to Jared & he told him he had used the power, he also said he had just told Jag. So according to him, he did. He also said he told only Jared & Jag, he did not mention that Cirie also knows.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 6:12 am
Well, I'm confused. I know this is not a surprise.
Did Cirie know that Matt was using the power? The DR had to be informed yesterday morning, so it was known at least by Matt all day yesterday.
And I see that Cirie...uhhhh, Jared won HOH, and it's been decided that Cam and Red will go up.
I wonder if Red and Cam will talk to Cirie about Legends25 and why their alliance is betraying them like this? They trusted her completely.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 7:01 am
This business of voting someone out unanimously, only to save them in the end, seems like BB is making you make a bad game move.
You are putting someone through hell, only to 'save' them? And also show your hand that you all just voted the person out? After lying that he was safe? It's psychological torture, done on purpose.
And also shows the person how easily his supposed allies outright lied to him.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 7:08 am
I would like the last week of my life back, please.
We went through the pressure cooker. For nothing. 14 hours. I imagine Cameron feels the same way. And now he goes on the block, and will probably be evicted if he doesn't win veto.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 7:11 am
I would also like to know how Cirie convinced Matt to use the power this week instead of saving it for himself, in case he is in danger next week.
Unless he feels SO comfortable that he could just toss a superpower away because Cirie told him to. And I have to believe that Cirie told him to use it. I don't see Matt making a move without telling her.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 7:14 am
Aabeepbeep thanks for the info on Matt telling Jag.
Rosem4243 OR Matt wanted to find out a little about who he could trust and also show Jag who could be trusted in that house. Maybe Matt used it to his advantage. I also believe Cam really wanted to see his pictures/family and get the letter that he privately boo hoo'd over for some time. I would bet Cam would say it was worth his effort.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 7:18 am
We don't know for sure that Cirie knew. If yes, then maybe she went along because she was unsure losing Jag was the best thing for her game cause she has secret alliance with Matt and Jag (Cirie told Matt and Jag privately that Rielly told her to trust Jag and Matt and only Jag and Matt). If she did not know, then Matt was testing her also. Just my thoughts on it. But America definitely knows what is going on and I would like to see her shake this mess up sooner rather than later. How? I don't know.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 7:21 am
Boberg, I wonder if Cam will think it was worth it if he is sent out the door this week.
Just heard Red say that this is his birthday week. Cirie will make sure he gets a nice gift.
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Bbpeach
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, September 01, 2023 - 7:23 am
I think in Cirie’s mind, by voting out Jag, they were covering themselves with Cam so that should Red win HOH they would still be good with them, while still keeping Jag. And if Red HAD won HOH, I feel sure she would have made sure they knew it was Matt who saved him, putting the target on him.
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