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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 4:13 am 
I woke up around 1 am board time and a lot happened!
I caught the tail end of Red talking to Felicia about Izzy and then he left the bedroom. Meme came in and Fel and Meme started talking about her conversation with Red.
Here's the important part and I hope someone else caught it to back me up or to correct me.
Felicia told Meme that Red said he would NEVER vote Cirie out! I can't remember what was said next, but Felicia recognizes the implications of this and how it could affect her game in the future. Especially if she is on the block against Cirie, or if Red is on jury.
Anyway it was a short conversation because Cirie came into the room and they started talking about the Izzy and Red situation and how bad it is right now, so they decided to have an alliance meeting upstairs in the hoh room right there and then. So they all marched upstairs to Cams room.
The funny thing is that Cam said he was shocked when he opened the door and saw them all there. He said he was going to the door to tell Jared and Blue to go get a room. 
So, Cam saw Bowie downstairs and told her to come join them, which Cirie later said that pissed her off. I guess she didn't want Bowie there for the alliance meeting.
Anyway, they all agreed that they won't get paranoid when they see alliance members talking to other people and they are all solid.
And Izzy had to go alone to the haven't room to sleep and stew on everything, while Bowie stayed up to talk to Cam and then later to Meme about what just happened. I doubt Izzy is going to get any sleep tonight and will continue to go off the rails today.
So, just remember, we might have the first chink in the armor of Ciries and Felicias relationshiip.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 5:26 am
I need to quit giving up so soon, when the conversations get boring.
I think we have all seen the cracks happening between Felicia and Cerie for a while now, in subtle ways. Felicia may not have figured the connection of Jared and Cerie but the connection of Cerie and Izzy is not something anyone can miss. Felicia knows she is not Cerie's number one, and has mentioned it. This is all going to blow up in their faces if they don't do some serious damage control. I just hope they don't turn on Red even harder for calling Izzy out on her paranoia and see she is putting them in danger.
I am going to flash back and listen to what I missed. Wow this is one good season.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:03 am
Grooch I heard what you heard. Good recap. Was disappointed that Cirie walked in on Felicia and Meme discussion.
I also watched on flashback Cirie, Felicia, Izzy group march up to HOH for the "need to stop being paranoid" meeting. Don't believe anything helpful got accomplished there.
Later, after most had left and just Cam and Bowie in HOH they had a good discussion. Cam said he is not a psychiatrist or counselor and is not trying to diagnose anyone but he thinks Izzy has a dependency problem and went on to talk about how Izzy saw how close Cirie and Red were and that is why Izzy is targeting Red and Cam now cause Izzy doesn't like anyone else getting close to Cirie. Cam talked about how Izzy got so excited and rushed up to Cirie on the first night in the house and has been Cirie "puppy" since then doing errands and things for Cirie.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:05 am
Also caught Jared and Mecole on outside couches discussing how unhappy Jared is with them voting out Blue. Jared says they are keeping Jag to win competitions for them but he don't need Jag to win comps for him. Mostly Jared voicing his frustrations to Meme and Meme voicing some frustrations about some people trying to tell her how to act and about the constant trying to flip the vote each week.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:12 am
One other thing in the Cam and Bowie discussion...Cam no longer trusts Cory and America. Thinks they are sharing info all over the house and thinks Cory is a very dangerous player to keep in the house. Cam says Jag, Blue, Cory, America, and Jared need to go sooner rather than later.
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Bbnut
Member
06-12-2006
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:29 am
My flashback has never worked...it doesn't give me anything after midnight and the next day is unclickable. It also only lets me watch camera 2. It hasn't worked for years.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:35 am
Bbnut I watch thru Paramount plus, had it for streaming before the feeds and it works well.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:41 am
I use the BBViewer extension on Chrome. I LOVE IT for 2 reasons, the flashbacks and the ability to watch quad screen but only listen to half at a time. So I can listen to one convo and keep my eye on what is going on on the other 2 screens.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:42 am
I don’t think Cory knows about Cirie/Jared. I say this for 2 reasons:
1. He would tell us during his camera-talk. He is always so transparent during those talks and he goes over every detail and opinion about the game/comp/players.
2. He kinda likes to brag, and I think he would certainly want us/BB to know he figured out a huge twist. Since his bro was on Survivor, he would comment on the crossover, and I doubt he’d be so trusting of Jared, knowing Jared/Cirie are a solid F2 and neither would ever try to evict the other. He might even tell America (the houseguest), so they could plan their moves.
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Bbnut
Member
06-12-2006
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:45 am
I do watch through Paramount plus.
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Janajoy
Member
08-03-2023
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:47 am
Do we have the capability to rewind or watch previous feeds on Paramount +, and if possible how do we do it?
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 7:54 am
Janajoy and Bbnut I watch on my computer mostly cause on the tv I do not have as many options. At the bottom of the feed that is showing I just use the scroll bar and push it back to flashback and forward to skip over stuff (Like the golden vortex). It is probably using my old reliable computer that makes it easier.
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Bbnut
Member
06-12-2006
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 8:00 am
I have always watched on my computer, but late at night on my ipad, which the app doesn't have fb anyway. The only time I want to use fb is in the morning while they are sleeping, but I can't watch what I missed till the next day and by then I'm already caught up. So, I just don't use it. Today is the 29th. I won't be able to watch the wee hours of the morning of the 29th until the 30th. It's really messed up.
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 8:04 am
Adding my two cents to last nights chaos..
Red is really really focused on the LEGEND 25 alliance .. and I figured out the reason.. as said upthread he wants to honor his son .. Did he name his son Legend? (I know Red came up with the Legend part and Cirie added the 25)
While upstairs in the game area with Blue . .. they were talking and Jared actually had tears in his eyes... now I don't know if it was because he knew he had screwed up and that when his mom found out she was going to kill him .. or if he truly has fallen for Blue and knows he can't save her.. or he was thinking about the next 75+ days without getting anything... But, they were true moist eyes.
America and Jag were in the bathroom last night (might have been when I picked up my phone for the second time because I couldn't fall asleep) and America was trying to give Jag advice about trying to stay.. So it seems to me America will vote for Blue to go... which will foil the groups plans on having certain people blamed.. (I don't think America cares what anyone else thinks.)
In the talk in the kitchen with Cory and Cirie and Cory was explaining about there needed to be two battlebacks .. he also mentioned that sometimes someone would get a special power to keep someone in the game or that there was a do-over week... Now that may have been Cory being Cory and his knowledge of the game .. but, if it was .. he was pretty spot on in one of his suggestions...
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In the Red meltdown to Cirie .. and subsequent talk with Izzy... Red gave out a lot .. about watching everyone.. and what I didn't understand was .. why didn't someone say .. "Red, why are you watching what your alliance members are doing? DON'T YOU TRUST US?" He's been "this person is talking to the other side.. that person is talking to this person in the alliance but not including me or Cam.. " All the while HE AND CAM have been secluding themselves up in the HOH and not including any of the others in their conversations...
O.K. maybe that was more than 
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 8:16 am
I have never watched a season with such paranoia.
I think it stems from all of the fluid alliances. There really is nothing SOLID. Even Felicia, Cirie, Izzy, they talk about each other. Maybe Cory/America. But the fluidity gives rise to paranoia, and I am loving it. Even if it is exhausting.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 8:41 am
I also went back and listened to the whole thing. This is my take on it. Izzy knows she has trashed Red and Cam to everyone who will listen. Jared is sick to death of her right now too. Cirie is trying desperately to keep her emotions in tact. Red did not at any time have a melt down or even raise his voice. He told Cerie what he was hearing and how hurt he was. Red, Cam and Bowie are in the Legend 25 alliance with Cerie, Felicia, Meme, Izzy and Matt. The problem is that Cam, Red and Bowie don't realize that is a fake alliance created by the others to throw them off the scent of the alliance they have with their other alliances. Who's fault is it that Cam, Red and Bowie don't feel uncomfortable talking to each other? They trusted the others, and were blatantly lied to. I don't feel one bit sorry if those women get caught in their BS.
It is funny how they trust Jag to protect them and the ones who are solidly in their corner are the ones they mistrust.
All I have heard from Izzy is her justification for feeling picked on.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 8:47 am
Wake up time, let the scheming begin.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 8:59 am
OMG, you guys, I asked you to take good notes and you did not disappoint! I could not keep my eyes open anymore, so THANKS!
I feel like I have so much to catch up on, and I haven't even watched Taran's update yet.
What is annoying to me is that out of all this, Cory and America are in the most trouble?? WHY????
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Iluvreality
Member
05-08-2011
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 9:06 am
Watching everyone wake up and get coffee. Where did everyone get the grey robes. Everyone walks around in the almost all the day. Just watched Cory tie the robe belt around his forehead. Never seen a group like this.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 9:06 am
I don't really understand it either Rosem. I don't understand the paranoia of so many of them. When you create so many alliances and lie to so many people you get caught up at some point. We see this every year. I like Felicia and Cirie and Meme, but Izzy is not someone I could find common ground with. She cannot take responsibility for her own actions. I don't tolerate Knee Jerk reactions, lack of accountability or making excuses in my personal life.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 9:09 am
EM, I am more than ready for all these alliances to get exposed. I feel like that moment is getting closer.
I have been wondering why Izzy hasn't been called out before since she is more than comfortable having, open, long conversations with 'enemies'.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 9:13 am
Here is Izzy the minute she gets a chance telling Jag about her talk with Red. That woman can't help herself. She is acting as if she is being persecuted. Cirie can't cut her loose because she knows too much. Even though I think some others know as well.
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Earthmother
Member
07-13-2002
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 9:18 am
How compelling watching America fold her clothes.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 9:19 am
Rosem, how many alliances are Cory and America a part of?
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Tuesday, August 29, 2023 - 9:23 am
Vegan, Cory and America are in a several fake alliances, but in reality, they are kept on the outside of all of them. They don't realize this, of course.
Which is odd since both Cory and America know the game better than the rest, yet they are currently in the most danger. Well, maybe except for Izzy, lol.
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