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Buba1113
Member
07-20-2009
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 6:50 am 
I couldn't get past the first sentence and I think I would like Evil Dick once I got to know him but his language is very offensive.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:04 am
If you can get past his "choice words" he discusses what BB hoped the MVP would be and how it failed.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:11 am
Well, those "choice words" are precisely why I can't get past the third paragraph and also why I am not a fan...
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:17 am
THE MVP twist did ruin the game. For the first 2 weeks the MVP nominee went home which basically made the HOH reign worthless. Also MVP stands for Most Valuable Player. Elissa may be a favorite but she was not playing the game. Dick is right,America should never get a vote that influences the game so much. His win is a prime example of America voting to aid a player based on the CBS edit.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:18 am
The Evil Dick is irrelevant to me.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:23 am
Matter of opinion...given who she was putting up and who went home, I think she was playing the game.
I have been told repeatedly throughout the years, right here on this board, that there are different ways of playing the game...under the radar, balls out (Rachel), offensive and defensive (Janie), as well as RUDE, CRUDE, and SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE (Evil Dick and most of this years crew).
Personally, I think Elissa has done quite well in the game from going to being on the block every week the first 3 weeks and being the target (plus the 4th week by MVP America mistake) to not being on the block for the last few weeks until this week and she had gotten the VETO twice.
If this was Amanda or Aaryn they would be crowned a BB champion for doing all that Elissa has done to stay in the game!
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:31 am
There are different ways of playing the game. Being the least offensive to America is not a strategy.
If the game went the easy route every season and the "good" people always won just by being nice and sweet the show would never had gone to 15 seasons.
I could not stand Jeremy but he got a raw deal.
Nick was arrogant but he got a raw deal.
David was too dumb to know what was happening so he needed to go.
America nominating the one person that was running the game was just pure crap.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:31 am
Co-signing what Lainee said. 
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Bee
Member
09-14-2009
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:34 am
Caprica
Wow. Just. Wow.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:45 am
I just want to say something about 20 somethings. They seem to get a bad rap. My kids are in their 20's and I know most of their friends....just spent the weekend with both sides (sons friends at a BBQ and daughters friends at a Christening)and these people are mature, responsible, and good citizens. The 20 year olds we see on BB are not the norm. Just wanted to put that out there.
Oh, and the other aged people on BB aren't typically the norm either.
Sure there are many factors that go into playing the game and there isn't one sure fire way to play.
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Justmom2
Member
03-15-2008
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:49 am
seriously, the only 20 somethings that act this way are the ones that were raised this was...I have a son in his 20's and he would never act that way..he is always kind and I've seen him with his friends and they are also very respectful....I have also seen and heard people in their 50's 60's even older be as rude and disrespectful as the people in the BB house....age is NOT an excuse for being a bigot or a racist or homophobic....
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 7:53 am
I know nothing about anyone's families or friends so I'm making no comment here about them. I will say that people sometimes speak differently depending on who is present there with them. Of course, with BB, America is present with them all the time but they seem to lose sight of that or don't care.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 8:03 am
I have to agree with Evil Dick that this season stinks. The idea that you can't be mvp back to back is a good one. I think they put the mvp in place just to protest Elyssa knowing she was Rachel's sister and not wanting her evicted the first week.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 8:07 am
Thanks for at least reading the link I shared and giving an opinion on it Brenda.
I think BB hoped the MVP twist would add intrigue to the game but instead it just made the HOH meaningless. So I agreed with Evel Dick and I'm not a fan of him either but he does know people in production and the twist did fail is why they switched it to having America vote who would go up.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 8:13 am
Though I don't like the language I do agree with Evel Dick that the MVP twist was a flop. Of course, Evel Dick thinks the season stinks because every new season that he isn't a part of stinks. 
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 8:13 am
Elissa could still have been evicted during any one of those first few weeks...there was no protection involved other than people deciding they could use her MVP status...but she still was not protected.
MVP would probably have been better if Elissa had not gone and told everyone that she was being picked MVP every week. After America became MVP the paranoia was a thing of "beauty" to behold in that house as they tried to figure out just who the MVP was!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 8:15 am
I am the odd person out. I liked the MVP but yes, like Dick said if the HOH can't be HOH consecutive 2 weeks the MVP should have had the same stipulation. I thought the (mvp)3rd nom was interesting and changed the game up. But I'm not sure how tptb thought that it would have stopped floaters I thought it would make everyone be a floater, at least in the beginning of the game. If the MVP put up a "floater" and they were put up against 2 strong people a rational game player would get out the stronger player, no?
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Tresbien
Member
08-26-2002
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 8:28 am
Elissa almost had to tell that she was MVP because being Rachel's sister made her #1 target, and the MVP advantage made her useful to keep. I didn't mind this twist as it did leave it up to the individual to reveal being MVP or not, and it caused a lot of drama in the house for those two weeks when America acted as MVP. We're always asking for more drama and we got it.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 8:34 am
Lilfair, I also like the MVP twist but it was utilized the way it should have been...secret! Had it been kept secret, we would have seen paranoia running rampant in the house like we did the weeks that America was MVP!
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 8:49 am
The MVP nomination was used as a threat. It affected the game in a negative way IMO. Nullifying the the HOH's power was also made alliances kind of worthless. That is why there were so many meaningless alliances this season. Elissa was used as a weapon and the nominations that she made were decided by the alliance more than by her. As long as she was MVP she was never in danger of leaving. Never. Her veto wins were impressive and needed so good for her but she should have been more assertive about getting Aayrn out of the house.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 8:57 am
Elissa has made it further than than her "MVP" bestie Helen (who I think would not have had one inkling to keep Elissa if she wasn't the MVP....so however Elissa used the MVP it worked for her.
I hope they use the MVP in another season with less frantic people and without bringing onto the show an automatic targer like they did with Elissa.
I actually would like to see a BB season of siblings or family member of previous hamsters...simularly as to what they are doing on Survivor but excluding having any actual hamsters return.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 9:03 am
I just was writing that too Lil lol
A season of siblings, aunts, parents of excontestants would have been more fair to Elissa, being the only one made her a target day 1.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 9:04 am
MVP should have been decided by the other players of the game. This could be decided in the Dr with questions that the players answered. It would be even better if they never knew that they were the ones deciding.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 9:07 am
I like that idea Caprica.
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Mamajenn
Member
07-07-2011
| Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 9:10 am
I loved the MVP twist!
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