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Ladytex

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
NOOOOOOOOO, not Kathy as host job! I'd never watch it again! That woman is so annoying!

Car54

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I never really liked Kathy much before this show, but I have really enjoyed her commentary and her hosting of the repeats. She is much smarter than I thought she was...(or maybe she is the mole).

Donut, I can totally see Eric as the Mole...after the bones in the coffin thing I thought it might be him. Kathy has messed up a lot of challenges, but it may well be that it is because she stinks at the physical games they played...she said in her confessionals that she was totally unprepared for how hard the game was....or maybe she is the mole....

Hell, I don't know.

I would have issues with the butler from Joe Idiot...he is kind of tainted for me now...but I think there is a great host out there somewhere.

If Kathy is not the Mole, I think she definitely has a development deal at ABC...they have given her a huge amount of on-camera time.

Muse

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Doesn't it seem like the last few episodes have been focusing on Erik's perspective and reasoning a lot? I find that strange. I'm kind of second-guessing myself now...I was *sure* he wasn't the Mole, but maybe he is. Maybe the show is having him talk about his strategy and such because they're trying to fool viewers. Argh - I don't know. I'm still going to stick with Frederique, just because she was my pick (along with Michael Boatman) since the beginning.

Oh, and btw - *if* Kathy is the Mole, I have to agree with her...she IS the best Mole ever. Because no other Mole could have pulled the kind of stunts she did (openly giving up on challenges, refusing to run, etc) without seeming blatantly obvious. 'Cause right now, I'm thinking, "Oh, that's just Kathy", but who knows. She could be deceiving us all. :)

As for not liking the contestants - well, I like Erik. And Kathy's great for comic relief, especially since I don't take her nastiness seriously. If Erik doesn't win, I guess I'm okay with Kathy getting it. I'm not too much of a fan of Frederique, though. I thought it was hilarious when Erik told her to "run along, now." :)

Mygetaway

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Remember when Corbin said something about there being two moles? What if Frederique is the Mole and Kathy is the "selected" winner. Then Erik as runner up really wins? They knew Kathy would be good for the entertainment value.
Also did anyone hear tonight on the opening announcements that the Mole IS PAID to deceive the rest? In the past they always made a point of saying that the Mole didn't get anything, didn't they?
Also.. do they get to keep the money or is it going to charity? I don't remember hearing anything about this, or if it was already discussed I missed it.. :)

Northstar

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 12:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Like Muse, I first thought it was Freddie, I was sticking to that plan, and now like the rest, I haven't a clue. I think this show is a kick in the pants. Of course, I didn't watch the other shows so I have no comparison and that may help with the enjoyment factor. It makes me laugh and that's what counts.

Schoolmarm

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
CRUD!

I fell asleep (late night the night before with the dissertation)!!!

Help! How did this end? I vaguely remember them doing the three questions game...just the first two.
After that....Zzzzzzzz

Hermione69

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It left us hanging. Tune in next week....

Essence

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 05:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have really enjoyed this edition of the mole. I think Eric is the winner. I'm not sure who I think the mole is, I flip flop between Kathy and Frederique everytime I think about it.

I was trying to gauge reactions of the other celebs when they were showing previews for next week. Did anyone else watch the previews? Maybe we can pick something up from their actions.

Texannie

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 05:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I tried so hard to get into the regular Mole shows, but never could, but WOW, we LOVE the celebrity Mole!!! My 13 year old have been out of town all day (7:30am-9pm) on a field trip and raced in the door saying "can't tell you about the trip now, gotta watch the Mole"!! LOL
I can't wait for next week.

Juju2bigdog

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 06:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Car 54, I agree.


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I would have issues with the butler from Joe Idiot...he is kind of tainted for me now




I guess it is kind of mixing metaphors to discuss this here, but ever since I read about him drinking up the wine cellar in the Bahamas, I have had a different opinion of Paul Hogan the butler.

Needmylifeback

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am staying with Kathy as the mole...she's been my choice since episode one....I don't think she's intuitive enough to have consistantly answered more questions right than some of the others (like Corbin) and staying in the game....

Remember her empty page in her Journal? And then last night when Eric asked her why she wore her watch on her right hand...and Frederique and Eric started writing in their journals...Kathy said something to the effect "oh I better write that in my journal too..."?

Car54

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last night at one point when they were going to commercial, the voiceover said something about "who is the Mole" and they did a very very lonnnnnng closeup of Eric.

Probably too obvious, right?

Tabbyking

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i believe that on other mole shows, the mole WAS paid a flat rate--for some reason, 25K (and of course, a wonderful trip!) sticks in my mind.

Tabbyking

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 08:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
also, about paul hogan--how do we know the person who said those things about him was honest? maybe paul was allowed to have wine. or maybe paul didn't drink the wine. 48 bottles (if he really did go through 4 cases of the guy's wine) in 4 months...comes out to 1/3 of a bottle a day. that's about what i have-- 2 glasses of wine. whenever someone is on a reality show, someone else crawls out of the woodwork to get their 5 minutes of fame. so unless it's proven to me, i still like paul!

what was with kathy not getting the money bag for so long? and suddenly knowing that 2 of the round labels were stuck together and taking them apart--just happened to step on them! there are times watching this show that i want to bean kathy over the head for being a mean, unhelpful contestant and others where i almost fall down laughing at her. "i love her, i can't stand her"!! i have to admit, i never feel just 'whatever' about her! for that reason alone, kathy was a good choice to have on this celebrity show. frederique bothers me. i guess i'm not a big fan of the sports illustrated swimsuit edition...she just looks huge and horsey to me! they might as well put princess anne out there!

Brenda1966

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Tabby about Frederique. I always thought she was ugly when I'd see her in the Victoria Secret catalogues. I must say I like her now more than I did before because she's not just a hot body, she cusses and gets irritated and seems to be playing the game.

Kathy had me laughing to tears last night. She is so funny and smart, even though she does go a bit overboard at times and overreact and get on one's nerves. I think she's the mole.

I'm with Car on this one -- I am loving Celebrity Mole. At first I thought the b-grade celebrities wouldn't be interesting enough, but they've kept it fun. I'll take more Mole any way I can get it.

About the finale -- they showed the final 3 players sitting on the couch. Could that give anything away? I think they were in this order: Kathy, Fred, Eric. What order did they sit last season?

I hope Eric wins. He's a cutie.

Saphyre

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 09:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am thinking Eric is the mole. Last night at the end, both Kathy and Freddy said "I am not the mole" while Eric said "No, I am not the mole". Why did he use a double negative? It just seemed like a clue to me.

Tntitanfan

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On the regular Mole there is an announcement that says something to the effect that "one of the players is hired by us to sabotage and deceive -"

Car54

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They got paid...as I recall it was like 60 or 70 thousand.

Northstar

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kathy was on Jimmy Kimmbel and said each person gets 25,000 to be on, and the winner gets a little less than 250,000, and "is suppose to give it to charity, but keeps it for themselves, hahaha".

Neko

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If no one picks the mole correctly, like if Kathy's the mole, and Freddy picks Erik and Erik picks Freddy and neither one answers any questions correctly.

Does that mean the mole gets the pot and the money that ABC is paying them??

Anyways,Go Erik!!

I'm actually thinking that either Erik wins, or he's the mole, since Stephen calls him the "DinoPimp" LOL from "DinoBoy"
So yeah, seems odd that he'd change it unless he was something..winner or mole

Brenda1966

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Neko, in your scenario Erik would get at least one question right "is the mole male or female?" so he'd win. :)

In the preview for next week, doesn't somebody say what a "genius" Eric is? Is this a give away? Does this mean Eric wins or that he's the Mole?

Car54

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think someone posted this but when they tried to cast the show, they tried to make it so they played for charity and none of the D list celebs would play til they paid them.

Texannie

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Brenda, I was wondering the same thing when they kept showing the previews for next week!!

Tabbyking

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
and car, isn't that sad?! no wonder they are D list!

Tabbyking

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
but brenda, if eric said the mole was male, how do we know if he meant himself or freddie? lol

Car54

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not sad at all. This show requires you be sequestered for several weeks, - you can't just show up for one night's taping like Celebrity Millionaire or some other game show that celebs play for charity.

They have given a lot of entertainment..and entertainment is what they do for a living. I feel fine about them getting paid. What they decide to do with it is their business.

Tabbyking

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
kathy said they were only there for 2 weeks. i could see getting some money, but celebrity formats usually benefit a charity, too. they had fun, they were in hawaii...if they didn't want to do a charity mole, there are others who might have. there's some big lummox, with a last name of a major hotel chain and he's looking for work. oh yeah, he has to get paid, too, cause he only made 19k last year. well, i'd do it for fun and for charity.
please, just don't tell me melissa rivers will get paid for the show she's on, too!! 'help, i'm a celebrity. get me out of here!'?? i'm still trying to figure out who'd want to get her out. and the only way i'll watch is if you guys start discussing (or dissing) it here, and i get to where i have to see for myself!

Happygirl

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 06:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Kathy is the mole. I saw her on Jimmy Kimmel Monday or Tuesday night, and when Jimmy introduced her, he called her the mole of Celebrity Mole and when Kathy came out, you could see her mouth to him, "don't say that...you're not suppose to say that yet!" and then they both just talked like he never said that. I think he slipped and she really is the mole!

Donut

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 07:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hey Car and JuJu! My favorite new name for a band now is 'Tainted Butler'.
I agree, let them get paid..how much do the Friends now get an episode and 20mill a film for Julia Roberts, and they dont have to put themselves in physical discomfort...being on celeb mole is like going off to do a movie at at least a tenth the price.Hey, i think Jim Carrey got several million for Dumb and Dumber while Jeff Daniels only got 700thous and thats still a zillion times more than the celeb mole guys get..

Curlyq

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 07:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Brenda and Neko pointed out the two clues that jumped out at me during the previews for next week. Someone says something along the lines of "obviously Erik's a genius" and another says "now he's Dino Pimp". I took this to mean that he had demonstrated his intelligence and now has a lot more money. I think he won.

I can't be sure who the Mole is, but if it's Kathy wouldn't that have precluded her from making a coalition with only one player thereby giving him an advantage (or disadvantage) over the others? Earlier when three of the guys decided to form a coalition with Frederique she seemed to agree with it half-heartedly as though she really wasn't interested. Then one by one they all got eliminated, perhaps because they didn't suspect their coalition member.

Demeter

Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 10:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When they were previewing next weeks show, they showed hand placed over a table/or some object that lit up green. The hand was a man's hand, long, slender fingers.

If this is an actual clip from the show, then I say Erik wins.

Ryn

Friday, February 07, 2003 - 11:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Eric is the mole (just repeating myself). I have to admit I have not read this whole thread but here are my reasons.....

This week he seemed to guide the 1st game (the quiz maze). It would be easy for a mole to screw up all three tries. He gave a couple weird answer in his quiz, and talked the Model into a couple of answers that didn't make sense to me.

Kathy answering all one name made sense, especially since she said she was TELLING him who she selected and he claimed he didn't understand her.

And the thing on the surfboard the week before? I thought it was total time on the board, but it was just one time and as Frederique said - the waves were not even lasting a minute.

In the last challenge he was clueless, and it looked like he intentionally stuck the back stickers together to conceal the number.

Oh well, we will know next week. I just think its him.

What would be funny is if it is Frederique, I think she is the least obvious.

Neko

Friday, February 07, 2003 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*gasp*

Never Ryn, Never!!!

Go Erik! Win that money!