Archive through July 03, 2002
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Archive through July 03, 2002
Delilah | Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 06:23 pm     15 minutes into tonights episode, the players have the chance to spend the night with a loved one. Each player has to choose another player to be their eyes, they describe their loved ones (they have 30 seconds) and the other player has 2 minutes to pick out the loved one from a second story window that looks out onto a crowded square. Both Katie and Dot choose Heather to be their eyes (turns out she doesn't have her specs... hmmmm) she picks the wrong people so Dot and Katie don't get to see their loved ones. Bribs chooses Darwin who comes through. Bill also wins and gets to see his loved one. My question - why did Bill get his brother in law and not his wife? He says he was shocked and distraught, but what is up with that? Bribs doesn't come through for poor old Al either (who would have seen his sister, not his wife....) Bribs does come through for Darwin who gets HIS wife (perhaps because the producers listen to him, he being the Mole?) Anyway, I am sure I will have tons more questions after the show, see y'all later!  |
Faerygdds | Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 06:25 pm     I JUST started another thread for this. so thank you for posting... MODS: can you please 86 the other thread please? |
Delilah | Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 06:27 pm     Oh and Mr. Perfect Bribs comes through for Heather! Her boyfriend is yummy!.... Perhaps she'll get the boot and go off home with him? |
Delilah | Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 06:29 pm     Ooops sorry Faerygdds! OMG Heather's delish boyfriend just proposed! She said yes! |
Delilah | Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 06:33 pm     The players now have another chance to see their loved ones - they have to bungee jump - again.... Heather did it, methinks meadowmuffin is next... |
Delilah | Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 06:46 pm     The only one who did not get to be reunited with her loved one is the queen of screw ups - Dot! Let's hope they are holding her Mom at the airport and that Dot is the next to go, I have had enough of her  |
Delilah | Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 07:40 pm     Oh well, bye bye Katie  |
Donut | Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 11:02 pm     boo hoo! it won't be the same without katie.. i was shocked!! I always liked al too, until he started being so mean to katie... (donut looks at that poor little blue fly sad face up there) hi d! you have scattered messages from me.... |
Madelane | Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 11:29 pm     Well Bill's brother in law said that Bill's wife couldn't find her passport, and he said some more things that we didn't hear. Bill seemed satisfied by the explanation but totally bummed. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 04:03 am     I thought that Heather chose a man in a blue shirt wearing a baseball cap who was seated at a table for Katies father. She told Anderson, the man in the blue shirt. Production chose the Italian guy by mistake. Anyone else think this is the case? |
Hootyhoot | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 05:30 am     Here's my suspicion ... Bill's wife knows he's the Mole, so she didn't want to come because she might somehow give it away. Really, her excuse for not coming was that she lost her passport? Don't you think they had at least a few days' notice of their chance to go? You can find almost anything in your house if yo look long enough and I think you can get a new passport pretty quickly if you pay an extra fee for rapid processing (I forget the exact details and in fact it may be harder now since 9/11 ...) so I don't think that excuse holds up very well. |
Wink | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 08:44 am     The lost passport is a totally lame excuse and I'm taking that as yet another clue that Bill is the Mole. Anyone familiar with Mole I (and I'm assuming all these players were) would know that there is a family visit at some point and they'd need to be ready to travel. |
Geogirl | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 09:04 am     Hi everybody! I think the lost passport was kinda fishy too but Heather screws up way too much. She did choose the man in the blue shirt, Fruitbat, but I whether the production guys picked the wrong guy or not, I guess it doesn't matter. Katie told her he might be wearing a hat, but she didn't say a baseball cap. Her Dad was wearing a straw hat. She has done something every week to cost the group money or reward. She remains my pick for the Mole. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 09:09 am     Kathryn had her fiance visit. I am not sure I see this as a clue for Bill being the mole. I do see it as lamebrain behavior on his wifes end though. The spouses and friends of the mole do not know their loved ones have been chosen for this role. They notify the mole when they are out of contact with family. They never mentioned why Al's wife could not be there. I think it takes more than 24 hours to get a replacement passport and Bill's brother in law mentioned he was called "yesterday", I think. Now why Shirley did not anticipate this is beyond me. Could be that there was some emergency situation and did not want to alarm Bill so they chose that excuse. |
Faerygdds | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 09:44 am     That's what I think Fruitbat.. I think Bill's Mom may have taken a turn and maybe the wife is looking after her and knew she couldn't go 2 days without telling him. Not wanting to worry him or anything, she chose not to go... OR......... she lost her passport... maybe even put it in a "safe place" and forgot where that was. I've done it 100 times myself! |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 10:08 am     Ah yes, Bills mother. She is sick and I bet that is what is going on. That is why Bill sister did not come either and instead her husband. He does not appear to be close to him. Anderson was precious, wiping fake tears at their emotionl greeting. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 10:10 am     Oh, and I am back to thinking Heather is the mole because of Geogirls post. It does not take much to sway me in this game. I have been with Heather for quite awhile now, since the jail but had a lapse with Bribbs and Darwin. It is the three of them that remain, anyway. I don't know where to put Dorothy. She is still hovering about my list. |
Car54 | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 10:16 am     I thought Kathryn said no one in her real life knew she was the Mole while the game was on. And I thought some family member said they only had like a day's notice to get ready for the trip, so the lost passport would make sense. I thought the brother in law was Bill's wife's brother, not his sister's husband. The only reason I don't think Heather is the Mole is that she is so much like Kathyrn, and I think they would pick a different "type". See, I missed 2 shows and I am totally lost now. Just waiting for Faery to tell me who the Mole is!...not a clue. |
Faerygdds | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 10:34 am     ok.. I'll tell you who I DON'T think it is any why... Darwin - not really a specific reason other than he is too inquisitive and always listening for some salacious bit of info. Bill - Too too too obvious. Just the mere fact that EVERYONE thinks it's him (just like EVERYONE *ELSE* thought it was Elavia) tells me it's not. I just don't feel it at ALL! Al - Everyone can point to all the flashing A's they want... The D in Switzerland flashed too... they do it EVERY episode... get over it. Onore al on the wall is Italian for "to honor"... which makes perfect sense for a Gladiator type game AND tends to point more to Bribs being the mole as he does the "honorable" thing and does NOT take the exemption. Too much of a hot head when he can't watch the action first hand and has to rely on others info as he trusts no one (which is a good thing)! Not the mole! Dorothy - OK... I can sum it up, but it's rude, but I'll say it -- no one is that lame on purpose! ok... there.. I said it... happy? --------------------------------------- Heather & Bribs: And that leaves these two... I keep going back in my head to a couple of things... when Bribs and Darwin are going over info together in the hotel (way early in the game), the question is, "Where is the Mole from?" Bribs says "Texas"... so I started looking at profiles... Both from Tx, both have brown eyes... unmarried... hmmmmm Either one could hide behind the other. But then there's the editing. Bribs is the angel and Heather looks super shady. Bribs (when he loses) hangs in right until the end and still fails - valiantly... Heather "knows" everything (yeah right) and messes up a lot of stuff. But the biggest clue to me was the whole blueberry game... GO back and look at the tape... The chef puts on the blueberries COUNTER clockwise with her RIGHT hand and skips the 4th one and then finishes the circle - HOW ODD!!! ( I have a LONG story about this and will only tell upon request) So I look at the seating arrangement and low and behold, 4th chair from Anderson counterclockwise is Bribs. Bribs also holds the Mole Killer... very ironic. But Heather keeps messing up... Bottom line... I honestly think it's Bribs, but it MIGHT be Heather, but I really REALLY think it's Bribs! |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 10:46 am     I agree Faery. That is where I am now. Consider this an official request for the long version of the Blueberry. And I will add that I think Darwin wins. |
Faerygdds | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 11:04 am     OK.... this is long and will either be VERY interesting to you or very boring and will make you concerned for my mental health. When I noticed the way that the chef prepared the jelly roll... right hand going counter clockwise and skipping the 4th berry... I got a little suspicious. So I decided to make a little test. I bought some jelly rolls and berries and set off for guinea pigs. They were: My husband - who was a baker's apprentice in Germany for 2 years My best friend - a professional chef/baker (also a southpaw - this is IMPORTANT) My grandmother - She has baked wedding cakes for over 50 years (ok... I think I just realized why food is the center of MY life... but I digress) I took the jelly rolls (pre-cut into 8 slices, not 14) I handed them the berries and I said the following, "I am doind a little test. don't ask me any questions yet. Just do me a favor and place one berry on each slice, but leave one slice blank with no berry. The results??? Everyone first of places the berries naturally with their predominant hand. Each of them started centerish of their body and worked their way to the outside and down, then back around. Simplified: Right handers went clock wise and the southpaw went counter clockwise. Each person also naturally went around the circle and left the LAST berry spot blank. No one went 4 , then skipped one, then continued... they all 3 went all the way around and left the last one blank? Then of course, they all asked me why... My husband just hugged me and smiled that.. "My aren't we obsessive?" look. The other two flat out told me that they are worried I'm so preoccupied with a TV show! lol So that's my blueberry story. I know it's only 3 people, but I just needed a few to see the natural pattern emerge... and it's "the way I would do it" too and like my Grandmother.. I have a flair for baking. Sorry it's so long, but I can't think how to shorten it. |
Mygetaway | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 11:45 am     Thanks Faery.. Wow.. I would never have caught that. I say CSI is missing an operative!! You have me wondering if I should change my vote now too. (To Bribs) I don't have that episode anymore, but I'd like to watch it now, just so I could see what you saw.
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Faerygdds | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 12:32 pm     ummm.. ok... hubby and I tag teamed...
She starts here
Places the second berry (note the counter clockwise movement)
and a third berry...
Note the fourth piece is the one that is skipped...
keeps right on going... --------------------------- Now to the table:
Anderson is at the head of the table next to Patrick
Counting around (counter clockwise) from Anderson: Patrick, Al, and Heather are all 3 berries, and Bribs is the missing berry
Serving the Mole - also note that the missing berry is pointed at the starting point, which is Anderson. ----------------------------------------------------- There you go... now you see what I saw...
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Seamonkey | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 02:00 pm     The heck with the Mole; I want one of those pastries!! |
Delilah | Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 02:25 pm     Oh my goodness Faerygdds, you are incredible! I am speechless!! |
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