Your take on the players

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Fruitbat

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 04:49 am Click here to edit this post

I'm sorry Jennifer was executed. I liked her.

Jim refused casts on his legs. That is huge. However....It would have been easy to fake losing his way back to the other team doing the puzzle yet he got there quickly. That was an ideal opportunity missed.

Kathryn and Kate are suspects for me now and they were not before. Has Kathryn done anything suspicious? I think not. Kate is loaded. What sticks out the most is her not telling Jennifer how to get to Anderson in the gun thing. That would have been the first thing I would have done.

OK not Kate is my choice...definately.

Espen

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 06:46 am Click here to edit this post

I was almost certain steve was the mole too, and everything they *show* seem to indicate it, but then I realized.. If you play the game well, you make everyone think you are the mole, thus making them chose you during execution and get eliminated for being wrong.. At the same time, you find out who is busy suspecting you, as the actual mole might not know to accuse you of being the mole as he/she would be hiding their presence/sabotaging the challenge. Now, is steve smart enough to do this? That I don't know. If so, I think Jim might be the mole.. he has done a few subtle things to throw of the challenges: misleading afi on the way to the ATM, taking time with the car at the monte carlo castle, not agreeing with Kate and then not going to Jerez even though she told him, etc.. My gut feel is still that it is steve, but I think it could be Jim too.. The others seem less likely, though if it is Kathryn she has done a great job!

Twiggyish

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 06:52 am Click here to edit this post

Leap, the Kate mole idea is interesting. I am going to have to keep an eye for more clues!

Rollerboy

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 07:06 am Click here to edit this post

No way, in my opinion, the Mole is a cop or lawyer, too easy. Jim is it.

Max

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 08:52 am Click here to edit this post

I'm sticking with Jim. Here's my logic based on the clues I perceive from last night's show:

  1. If Jim is the Mole, he knew two things: That the hotel was in Jerez and that the money would double if Kate and Charlie succeeded in keeping them from getting there on time.
  2. In the first town, when they got the clue, Jim was talking with some locals when Kate called. Suddenly, he quit talking with them (even though he speaks pretty good Spanish) and just accepted Kate's information. This was his tip-off that Kate and Charlie had decided to try and double the money.
  3. He was the one deciding which clue they'd try. Jennifer never really had input, she just followed his lead. He made sure to pick everything except Jerez until Kate and Charlie told them that was the town. Then he said he had known it was that all along. Intuition not followed or the Mole?
If you're the Mole, you never want to be too obvious. I think Steven is too obvious. Maybe it's like his wife said, he messes up a lot at home, too.

Leap

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 09:54 am Click here to edit this post

Very good points about Jim. The other thing about him is that he never says that he isn't the mole.

And, Espen, I was thinking about some of the things you are saying. Maybe some of them screw up on purpose to get other people to think they are the mole. Then, those other people will be eliminated.

I do think that Kate is too obvious, but I will stick with her at least until next week.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 10:39 am Click here to edit this post

If Jim were the mole and knew the hotel was in Jerez he would have gone directly there on his "hunch". Why bother driving to all those other towns? He risked being the last to arrive if he knew the deal. Why chance it. To sabotage the game both teams had to arrive on time. I doubt he would have cut it that close. OR he may have been looking for the other team to give them a ride.

Max

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 11:24 am Click here to edit this post

"If Jim were the mole and knew the hotel was in Jerez he would have gone directly there on his "hunch". Why bother driving to all those other towns? ... To sabotage the game both teams had to arrive on time. "

Remember, there were really two different games going on. One where two of the three teams had to arrive at the hotel before 8:00 to get $40K. The other was only known to the Mole and the stupid team: If the smart team doesn't arrive on time but the resourceful team does, the prize doubles to $80K.

So, to sabotage the game either way, Jim needed to keep the smart team from arriving at the hotel. He had no way of knowing what the resourceful team was doing, although it's a fair assumption that they wouldn't make it on time.

If both the smart and resourceful teams had arrived on time, they would have gotten $40K and Charlie and Kate would have been sleeping outside.

Rollerboy

Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 08:59 am Click here to edit this post

Another thing to consider. Just because the Mole is the Mole doesn't mean he "knows" any more than the fact that he is the Mole. I wouldn't think that he/she has access to the behind the scenes plot lines, challenge/game info, etc.

Enbwife

Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 09:30 am Click here to edit this post

I'm glad Jen got the boot. She was driving me crazy and I realized last week she probably wasn't the mole. I'm still suspecting Jim but more so Steve now.... Did anyone notice that his "wife" looked very model/actress like???

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 10:00 am Click here to edit this post

That's an actress? She sure knows how to fake it!

No way is Steve the mole. They'd be entirely stupid to make the undercover cop the mole.

On the other hand, what is an undercover cop doing on national television? Career over.

Wilsonatmd

Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 07:40 pm Click here to edit this post

I rewatched all of the episodes over the weekend, and of the remaining players, here's what I think:
(on a scale from 1-10, 10 being absolute certainty, 1 being not likely)
Kate:is the mole-4-just doesn't seem to fit. Will win-3-I think she's gone this week.

Jim-Is the mole-6-has done some suspicious things, but also a lot non-mole things
Will win-8-one of the few who I think can win

Kathryn-Is the mole-5-I just don't think it's her.
Will win-6-she can also win

Steven-Is the mole-8-my top suspect, not for the big things, but for the little things.
Will win-5-if he's not the mole,I think he might make the final, but not win.

Charlie-Is the mole-5-He's done too many non-mole things to make me believe its him, after reviewing the tapes.
Will win-6-He's my dark horse in this.

Also, ABC announced that the final ep. has been moved to Wed. the 28th, the day after ep8. the announcement leads me to believe we may not find out who won or who the mole is until ep9, not 8.

Ocean_Islands

Monday, February 12, 2001 - 03:51 am Click here to edit this post

As long as you're doing handicapping what are the payoffs?

Wilsonatmd

Monday, February 12, 2001 - 03:29 pm Click here to edit this post

Alright, for entertainment puropses only:

Charlie
Is mole:3-1 Will win:4-1

Jim
Is mole:5-1 Will win:Even

Kate
Is mole:10-1 Will win:15-1

Kathryn
Is mole:2-1 Will win:3-1

Steven
Is mole:3-2 Will win:4-1

Norwican

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 07:07 am Click here to edit this post

I still think Kathryn is the Mole. That was my orginal gut feeling and I still have it.

So now of course, she will be executed tonight

Ocean_Islands

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 08:26 am Click here to edit this post

No way is Steve the mole. They've shown him doing too many weird things for him to be the Mole, it's a set up. Haven't you guys read mystery novels?

Those odds are way off, but a nice try. Here's mine (don't know anything about making odds but...):

Charlie
Is mole:10-1 Will win:15-1

Jim
Is mole:2-1 Will win: 3-1

Kate
Is mole:3-1 Will win:4-1

Kathryn
Is mole:4-1 Will win:2-1

Steven
Is mole:7-1 Will win:3-1

I'm leaning a bit more towards Jim being the Mole today.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 01:06 pm Click here to edit this post

If the mole is Stevan...lousy show, way too obvious.
Jim....likely candidate after 2 episodes.

Most have guessed one or the other each week.

Now if either Kathryn or Kate were the mole... Great show and I'll look forward to the next one.

I am going to guess Kate just out of wishful thinking.

Ocean_Islands

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 05:17 pm Click here to edit this post

Kathryn is SO not the Mole, after today's show.

Jim, however, is looking more guilty.

Wilsonatmd

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 06:22 pm Click here to edit this post

Well, first off, I loved the library challenge!
(I'm biased, since I'm going for a master of library sciences degree)
I just sorta knew it was Kate's time tonight.
Ocean, why do you think Kathryn isn't the mole? She cost them the assault challenge, and was one of the ones who broke the "stay in your rooms" rule, costing them 20K. She did help them in the library, but the upshot was the team only earned 40K out of 120K.
Charlie on the other hand, may have gone to the wrong stop on purpose, hoping that there wouldn't be enough stops left for them to win. However there were, and he had to try to cover himself and go from the goat to hero. Moleish behavior, or red herring?
I now admit I may have been wrong about Steven.

Now:
Charlie-
Is mole:2-1 Will win:3-1

Jim-
Is mole:4-1 Will win:2-1

Kathryn-
Is mole:EVEN Will win:3-1

Steven-
Is mole:2-1 Will win:4-1

I hope no one gets hurt next week- It looks like that challenge in the preview is about trust or fear.

6 down, 3 to go. Who's next? (my hunch, Charlie or Jim, because I really can't believe that there will be 3 guys in the final round.)

Twiggyish

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 06:40 pm Click here to edit this post

OI, I am starting to think it is Jim, too. But then Kathryn didn't seem to go out of her way to help either. Still Steven has a way of appearing guilty (smarmy smile). Charlie is too emotional to be the mole..yet he could be one heck of an actor.
This time I am leaning towards Jim..I think..lol

Ocean_Islands

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 06:55 pm Click here to edit this post

Charlie is definitely not the mole.

Unfortunately it's getting a bit hard to eliminate the others!

With Kathryn sobbing her eyes out, do you think she is the mole?

Wilsonatmd

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 07:54 pm Click here to edit this post

Think about this...
1.Kathryn was the only one inside the building.

2.The mole apparently contacted the attackers on how to get to the bottle.

3.Everyone had walkie-talkies, could the attackers have had one on a different frequency?

4.Kathryn "forgot" to turn the safety on her paint gun off, after Cooper showed them how to work it.

She may have been crying, but I think it was partly because of Charlie's verbal assault on her and part "crocodile..", er "mole tears".

Also with Kate gone, the only one that didn't break the curfew rule was Charlie. If he doesn't go next week, I'll be surprised and suspicious!

Fruitbat

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 04:48 am Click here to edit this post

I don't think Kathryn is the mole but the tears were real, regardless. Just the stress of the game, little sleep and missing familiar people and honest communication. To say nothing of eveyones verbal assaults. Even if she were the mole I can easily see this as disturbing. She likes these people and they all yelled at her.

Not Charlie. It will be anticliamtic for me if it is Jim or Stevan. They have been suspected my most the entire game.

Guruchaz

Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 10:16 pm Click here to edit this post

This group of people have messed up most of their challenges throughout the whole show. They do not work well together at all, even when they are down to 3. That's sad.

Marysafan

Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 08:09 am Click here to edit this post

I think that it is refreshing that these three highly intelligent people who were playing the game to win from the start, really came to like each other and became friends in spite of themselves.

Norwican

Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 08:41 am Click here to edit this post

I agree Mary. You can tell this is pretty tough on the three of them at this point.

I would not have done well myself on the challenge they had last night... too little time to figure it out for me.

Digilady

Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 08:57 am Click here to edit this post

Wonder how friendly they'll be when all is said and done. Katheryn surely didn't seem happy with that test yesterday.

That was a HARD challenge, IMHO. Also pretty funny when they figured out the bike ruled the lights in Jim's room!

Had that been my lazy butt, ole Jim would have been in the dark a lot longer.

Lancecrossfire

Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 10:40 am Click here to edit this post

Digi, you wouldn't have ridden that bike very much knowing it could mean 75K?

That's 75K more than you got for doing Game II!

Digilady

Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 08:32 pm Click here to edit this post

Lance, when you make a point..
YOU make a point!

Seamonkey

Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 09:00 pm Click here to edit this post

Ah.. but NOW we know who didn't care about he
$75K :)

Great ending show!!!

But.. doesn't the Mole get any compensation at all?????

Heyteach

Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 09:12 pm Click here to edit this post

That's what I was wondering too! Is Steven the only one who gets anything? They keep talking about the trip but it doesn't appear that they had any time to enjoy any of the places they went. I am hoping someone has been more ambitious than I and has walked his/her fingers over to the official site to find out what--if anything--the others got. Anyone? Anyone?