Fruitbat | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 05:40 pm  What do you think now? |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 05:42 pm  Did anyone catch who Afi thought was the Mole? Not that it would mean much as this is edited so she may have had many suspicions yet only one was aired. |
Digilady | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 05:43 pm  The dude in the mask, or the gay chick! DON'T tell me he can hear a helicopter 30 miles away, so loudly he can't hear over a telephone. |
Ketchuplover | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 05:46 pm  I'm leaning towards Wendi or Jennifer. Moreso Wendi. Don't take it to the bank. |
Putterboy | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 05:47 pm  Wont spoil anything for out non EDT friends but I think after tonights show I may have it down to 4 possibilities ..3 woman and 1 man. and feel quite strong about 2 of them. Was a good show. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 05:56 pm  Putterboy...go ahead and talk. Anyone not wanting to know anything has been warned that any thread talking about the episode contains spoilers. I ahve ruled out Charlie and Henry. That is about all. Jen looked too suspicious tonight so I have to say probably not. She screwed up twice. |
Putterboy | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 06:18 pm  Ok if you think it is fair to those who have not seen show. Right now I have Henry pushing my #1 spot as I think he did 2 things tonight and Jen is a close 2nd for her two screwups as you put it. the others in my suspicious group is Jim, lost van and hearing helecopter and Wendy calling directions in the maze. Now probably it will be someone else but will have it narrowed further next week. What do you think? |
Enbwife | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 06:46 pm  I am leaning towards Jennifer or Jim now... Jennifer and Henry really had it out tonight when she disappeared forever. Also, why didn't she stop running when Jim kept telling her to (in the maze)??? Where did Jim go in the van for so long? I liked tonight's episode. I feel like I'm getting to know them better now. Felt bad for Afi for getting kicked off.... too bad! |
Leap | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 07:30 pm  Thanks to everyone for their input today on the show - especially Lisa for doing a show summary. For some reason, my VCR didn't tape tonight. I definitely will have to get it worked out before Survivor. Anyway, since I didn't see it and only have your words to go by, I will stick with last week's pick for mole - Jennifer. |
Wink | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 07:59 pm  I'm sticking with my original pick Kate for now but Henry is starting to make me wonder. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 08:01 pm  It is too early in the game for the mole to stand out so strongly. That is the only reason not to suspect Jennifer. The producers wouldn't be that obvious, would they? |
Leap | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 08:05 pm  Fruit - I hope not. However, I am going to make a guess every week. I would really like to be totally surprised. It makes for much better TV watching. |
Scribe | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 08:32 pm  I have to agree with Fritbat..Jennifer played with two different partners today and each time she and her partner lost the prize...so either she is trying to divert attention or she is the Mole..I have to agree with fruit..it just seems to0 obvious...and she does appear to have a volatile personality...got angry with folks in the Van last episode...got angry with Henry in this episode...and then 'cried" on screen at the end...looked kind of real emotions...who knows... but Henry said he offered the headset to jen and she refused to take them... Not true. He just lied. But looks like he lies easily..not necessarily a sign he is the Mole he is just too obvious...I don't see him as the Mole...and Afi indicated that she Did Not see Henry as the Mole..now if she answered accordingly and got everything wrong then maybe that is why she lost...so there are pros and cons for Henry as the Mole. But I just don't see it. IMO Kate was not faking the out of breath thing. First off the incline was steap...the french Riviera has steap inclines for sure...they are right on the foot of the mountains...And Kate does not look in great shape...and further more she was out of breath earlier in the episode so this wasn't not a unique action for her. She has not done anything to =date to make me suspect her more than anyone else. As to the pamphlet in the boat, I think she just didn't get it at first. But then thats the game, she probably is the Mole. Who knows. Now Steven could not have heard a helicopter...so he lied and frankly he answered so quickly when the call came in "I can't hear you becasue of the helicopter noise" I taped the episode and listened to it back and there was NO Noise around Steven when he made that statement! So he lied. Now he could have lied because he is the Mole or he could have lied to play his own game plan. I don't know yet. But I did think his action with the napkin note from last time was very strange...why try to move it to someone else unless you were surprised and afraid someone whould think you were the Mole and you are the mole. So Steven is still a suspect for me. I have excluded poor old Charlie...he seems real..can't imagine Rudy disembling and Charlie reminds me somewhat of Rudy (but a very poor imitation ). Jim was a suspect last week but he has done nothing inparticular this week. In the maze they all lost and the only one that won that days challenges were the Eyes with Henry, Kate and Kathryn. So if one of them is the Mole the Mole did not sabotage that game. But the Maze is interesting. If I eliminate Charlie, then Steven may be a suspect and with my other reasons to suspect Steven as stated above and also I forgot to mention, I thought when he was 'abducted" he looked dressed and prepared for th "snatch" and throughout the exercise seemed to be too detached. He could be the Mole. Then there was Wendi and Afi...Wendi spaced out in the Maze...how is it that her headset didn't work all of a sudden and she just stopped...odd too that when Afi asked "Why arent you movign, why arent you moving" Wendi immediately stated "Oh I cant hear you, I cant hear you" seemed odd juxstposition...Wendi is a suspect. Then there was Jim and Jen. I though Jim gave good directions and I thought Jen spaced out and didn't "follow" or hear....so I suspect Jen over Jim. So how did Episode 2 end for me. Eliminated this week (I reserve the right to return any or all next week): Charlie,Kate and Jim Possibles: Steven, Jen, Wendi, Kathryn, Henry Likely: Steven, Jen, Wendi Most Likely: Steven and Jen.
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Scribe | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 08:43 pm  On the other hand, I haven't given kathryn a thought...so she is probably the Mole. Well I will be watching continuously...cause I can't make up my mind on anything! |
Leap | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 08:44 pm  Thanks, Scribe! |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 09:58 pm  I noticed on the credits when editing was explained, it also said because of a technical difficulty, one more challenge was run. I'm thinking it must have been the time Wendi said she could hear Afi. Did anyone else notice other potential technical difficulties that would allow for an extra attempt at any of the challenges?? |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 05:15 am  Lance...they probably cut all the difficulties from the tape. Many shows run that disclaimer, maybe for legal reasons, and never show the edited error. Scribe....I have a post on the other thread, I'll add to it here but not repeat. Henry is young and acts a little rangey. Not sure the show would pick him for the mole. I think he lacks control and savy usually accrued with age. I rule him out because of this. Charlies startle looked authentic. Confirmed my first take that he is not the mole. Logic also says they wanted him a player so we could observe his dective skills and possibly be confused by them. I agree that Kate out of breath looked real. How much the production company is manipulating we will not know. They could have removed the helicopter sound from the tape so we could hear him talk. He was next to the heliport and the copter that was up filming the other one could have been landing. They may have told Stevan to stay dressed because a challenge would occur in the night. He is an undercover cop. I would expect him to remain calm. They also are expecting anything....this is a game and all are prepared for the obscure. Interesting about Wendi's saying "OH" before I can't hear you. I'll go back and listen. |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 11:14 am  I think Henry's loud outburst and his taunting made him look very suspicious. Of course, he wanted Jen to look guilty. Sheesh, now I am rethinking it all..lol |
Marysafan | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 03:17 pm  don't ask me...I'm so confused....I keep talking myself right out of stuff...I am EASILY mislead....and these folks are doing a darn good job in the misleading department. I'm the fool that thought George was tampering with the food supply for crying out loud! I'm never going to figure this out. I was sorry to see Afi go. I really liked her, and thought she had a good chance of figuring out who the Mole was (wrong again). Besides...she was the ONLY one that I didn't suspect as being the Mole...so now I am back to square one. Can't wait for next week! |
Lancecrossfire | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 03:26 pm  This is the perfect format of a show for pretaped, once a week with decent editing. They can make it so it's never possible to know for sure--to only guess at it. Of course there is their hook. Pass the suspicion around to the viewing audience, making all of them look like possibilities at some point. The only hope is to catch them in an editing pattern. So far they don't seem to have one that would help with this (that I've seen). |
Corriecat | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 04:23 pm  Something bothered me about the way Jim told the others about what happened that night. He sounded so flat, like it was a rehearsed story. I'm not sure I would have even told the whole group what happened. I do know that whoever I told I would be a bit more excited about hearing the footsteps and seeing someone put tape over my peephole as I looked out. But maybe that's just the way Jim is. |
Scribe | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 08:14 pm  This is great. Fruitbat...you're right about Steven ... the sounds, editing, given a call before possibly...I thought of th last in fact...he's now moved back to a possible not a very likely....doesn't take much to change my mind int hings like this.... Wendi has taken his place .. for this hour.... Kathryn is running under the radar and that is interesting...I don't find anything she does particularly suspicious (I actually would have gone to a telephone and called Cartier's to check on the serial number myself...although I think I would have called UK or USA to get someone who spoke english ... so her running around to call Cartoer's didnt make me particularly suspicious... But she seems to be the most unobtrusive ... since she is totally neutral for me ...she is probably the Mole... |