Archive through January 15, 2001

The ClubHouse: The Mole: Clues?: Archive through January 15, 2001

Noslonna

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 04:22 pm Click here to edit this post

Now that we have had time to think about it... what do you think the clues are so far?

The note book that had 3 suspects...

The mysterious note found at dinner...

What are your clues or suspicious events?

Guruchaz

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 04:27 pm Click here to edit this post

It's the Host. He looks sorta like a mole.

(ducks and runs)

uh huh huh

Noslonna

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 04:38 pm Click here to edit this post

When Jim was talking to the French villager, she said "Allee a droite" Go right. Jim said to go to the left.

Noslonna

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 04:40 pm Click here to edit this post

Wendi has a mole on her face...

Enbwife

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 06:00 pm Click here to edit this post

I didn't catch any clues... too soon I think. Should get good though.

Fruitbat

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 03:42 am Click here to edit this post

Nos...did you tape it? I didn't catch that bit about Jim. Could also be that his French is not as good we may think, but that is a pretty basic to confuse.

When we know the mole and look back the clues will be obvious. Right now everything looks like a clue for something. The fact that some players will try to look like the mole is going to make it difficult.

Jim is pretty obvious right now with his suggestion to keep the money hostage. But then again Survivor put the imunity notion in his head. Why not go for anything to stay in the game.

Stevan is blatant. Could be just trying to confuse the issue though.

I can go down the list and make a case for everyone at this point but I have eliminated some. I mentioned this in another thread.

Resortgirl

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 05:05 am Click here to edit this post

Was it Jim who helped repack the others bags? Did he only put one tennis shoe in for someone? I would think the "mole" would have been one of the people left to repack. He could have left important things behind to sabotage future missions. I didn't tape it so would like any input from someone who did.

Resortgirl

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 05:10 am Click here to edit this post

I see on another post it was Charlie who packed the one shoe so that shoots my theory about Jim. I was really thinking it was Kathryn at first though. I wish the show was on more then once a week.. the suspense is killing me! And I'll be gone for next weeks show, darn!

Fruitbat

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 05:10 am Click here to edit this post

It was Charlie who packed one shoe. I don't remember Jim re packing. Wendi Kathryn Charlie Henry and someone else I think. I am not sure about Henry but the others are correct.

While you are at it wanna tell me a little bit about the arrrows. I got the idea but 4 of em?

Fruitbat

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 05:12 am Click here to edit this post

Nevermind...got the arrrows.

Cinnamongirl

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 08:04 am Click here to edit this post

Why would they not be allowed to talk to each other about what they saw on the screens during the last challenge? What would be the reasoning behind that? I think it was a total setup to let the mole "go to work". "Under no circumstances talk about what you just saw". How easy it would be for the mole to accidently slip up after an hour or so of mindless banter and not have someone suspect it was on purpose.

Mishamisha

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 08:07 am Click here to edit this post

Oooooh Cinnamon, good point! Either Wendi's the mole or she's just not very bright :)

Cinnamongirl

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 08:08 am Click here to edit this post

I also didn't buy into the crying episode by Wendi after Manuel was executed. It seemed a bit staged to me. I'm keeping my eye on her. Shes up to something..I know it :)

Fruitbat

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 08:34 am Click here to edit this post

The reason they did not want them to discuss what they saw: In the event that Kathryn and Afi couln't remember something, they could call in someone else. This would cost them money but it was an option. Had everyone discussed it there was opportunity for knowledge to be gained beyond the alloted 15 minutes and give them a greater advantage.

It is difficult to fake real tears. Mole or not they all liked Manuel. I think it is irrevelant.

Cinnamongirl

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 09:01 am Click here to edit this post

Good point about the gaining knowledge.. I didn't think that far..
But it's NOT difficult to fake tears..Not in the least. Kathryns seemed totally genuine.. Wendis did not.. IMHO

Fruitbat

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 10:39 am Click here to edit this post

Even if her tears were not genuine, what does that mean? The mole is as much in this game as the players and capable of forming attachments to the others. Some people are criers, some are not.

I am not expecting the mole to take on a different personality. He or she will be and act and react as him or herself. There is no definition of a mole personality. If this show continues, each one will have a mole totally different from the one before. The possibilities are as endless as human variation.

Guruchaz

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 12:41 am Click here to edit this post

Yes, after one episode, I know who the Mole is.

Willi

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 08:43 am Click here to edit this post

I always said that you were smarter than the average Guru.

Uh huh.

Speculating is part of the fun...I missed the Gold Rush. :)

Scribe

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 07:45 am Click here to edit this post

I got absolutely nothing out of the First episode; EXCEPT (I speak french fairly fluently) I too heard Jim speaking french in the village and he definitely heard one thing and translated it to his partner another way. His french accent sounded fairly good so I would be surprised if h had "misunderstood" the villager. EXCEPT, so what? They did get to complete the mission.

Scribe

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 09:38 am Click here to edit this post

Ok, so Jim's french conversation bugged me after I read Nos' translation of the french Woman's directions.

I couldn't remember exactly what she had said so I went back to the episode (I did tape it). I listened several times to the conversation between Jim and the french Woman. Jim asked her is she knew where "this" was and offered her the Mole Paper. She looked at it and told him to "allez" (go) ... and then he acknowleged her directions and talked OVER her so I could not hear if she said "droite" or "gauche". She did point towards the left and seemed to say "over there'..but her words were drowned by his acknowlegement of her directions. Then when he and Afi approached the signs that said Parking (Left) and Sortie (exit) (Right). Afi and Jim had the discussion about sortie meaning exit but that Jim told her that the lady had said to go left. So we really don't have confirmation that the woman did or did not say left. I did see her sort of motioning in the left direction...and it seemed that she was saying go up that way (not exactly go left)...Maybe that is the way she goes because she goes into parking or something...I don't think Jim is the Mole because of that confusion.

Also his suggestion that Afi and he and the one at the chateau hold the money hostage doesn't tell me he is the Mole just that he is playing the game and had already decided that it is a game and not a group hug. He said so much when he was called on it. Now Charlie seems kind of a simp even though he is a former detective. I don't see him as the Mole. Yeh he packed one show for Steven but then Steven faked (imo) fear when he did the sky dive so all I know about those two is that law enforcement folks are not perfect. DUH.

I also don't think Wendi's talking about what she was not supposed to talk about and making them lose $10,000 makes her the Mole.

I kind of would look for the most unobtrusive at this point and select him or her.

I need more to make even a long shot guess though.

This is a clever show so far. I watched part of Temptation Island (I'm a West Wing watcher so TI will lose even if good..but it was not particularly captivating...give me BB anytime for that kind of stuff).


Mishamisha

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 10:26 am Click here to edit this post

Well, whoever the Mole is, they didn't successfully sabatoge this mission in any way that I could tell. They're probably laying low for now, waiting for the others' little mistakes (or are they mistakes?) to lead us in the wrong direction as far as suspicion goes.

Hehehe, this is kinda fun. Looking forward to the next episode. Thanks for the effort, Scribe, you put into trying to decipher the convo Jim had. I guess it's fair to say it's too close to call at this point :)

Wink

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 10:29 am Click here to edit this post

Scribe I didn't tape the episode but when the incident happened I also thought she said "droite". Thanks for the clarification. I don't want to have Jim in my head as a possible Mole cause I just don't like him. I'm a West Winger also and only watch Temptation during WW commercials. Definitely wasn't impressed with what little I did see.

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 12:00 pm Click here to edit this post

Scribe--welcome back!

Fruitbat

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:04 pm Click here to edit this post

Hi Scribe and thank you for the clarification.

Enbwife

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 04:15 pm Click here to edit this post

Good job Scribe. I can tell you're going to figure this out before any of us do (hehehehe). Can't wait for tomorrow's episode! :)