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Kearie | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 12:52 am  Well, I still can't decide. Ahh, yes I can, who am I kidding. Let's just say I wouldn't trust her with anything...especially with my words, my thots or my opinions. I find her tactless, rude and extremely juvenile...no matter how many wonderful trivia games she puts together or how many candles she gives away. I would never want her as a friend...I wouldn't need enemies if I had her as a friend. |
Lafatme | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 01:06 am  i'm just tired of her arrogance-is she ever wrong? the answer is "yes, often" will she ever admit it? "no" too bad. |
Maddie | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 02:05 am  I can understand the feelings Kearie and Laf express above but I can't help thinking this is a misunderstood young woman. I see a spark that will not be easily extinguished even if she is voted out. Spam is being herself. Maybe we should try and hear her instead of writing her off. She does have something to say if you listen. :o) |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 02:24 am  Maddie, I agree that Spam is not one who will be extinguished--nor should she be (well...). I also agree that Spam is being herself, even though she says she is different outside of the game. As far as being misunderstood, Leona Helmsley was also possibly misunderstood, and he had something to say. |
Kearie | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 09:01 am  Misunderstood? Okay, How bout we just say that she is a hot headed, judgemental person who has really crappy interpersonal skills...and she can't communicate her thoughts in a thoughtful, articulate way. Does that work for you? |
Maddie | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 09:44 am  ... or what Kearie said. :o) |
Tukuul | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 10:22 am  Personally, I think Spam is smart, but a fake and a truth-twister (liar is too harsh). It feels accurate. I don't think she is who she says she is and I certainly don't think she has the temperment to "run companies" like she says she does. Her new thing is that she now has had poetry published. I'd like to be directed to those publishings and the titles. |
Lafatme | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 11:14 am  right on tuk, a "truth-twister" fits. she reminds me of will mega, in that she says something, is challenged, then backs off and re-states her position. that re-statement is usually different than what she actually said, then she blames others for misunderstanding, or misquoting, what she said. put simply, she's giving us a runaround. she may be a wonderful person in real life, but i can't see it. she plays with people, says downright cruel things, then tells us how smart she is. hopefully she has people in her life who love her, she needs it. something tells me that she pushes anyone who cares away. she's just sad. |
Luckygal | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 11:25 am  Oh no, I may have changed my harsh opinion on SpamGirl. I just read the last chat posted, the late night one that Digilady put up this morning. SpamGirl has issues I didn't know about. It was interesting to read about her and people she spoke with before the game, Kearie and Laf and something called the "CBs"??? I think she may feel she has been hurt by these people and Merlin too, and she is afraid to let her guard down. If she does she thinks she'll get hurt even more. I'm going back to see if I can understand about this Laf and Kearie thing, and WHO are the CBs? |
Moondance | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 11:30 am  LuckyGal... I read it also and have a better understanding where Spam is coming from ... Hurt, pain and abandonment issues are tough ones but it still gives no one any right to hurt someone before you think they are going to hurt you. |
Lafatme | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 11:45 am  i just read the same chat lucky, and i need to explain something... first, i don't hate spammie, i don't HATE anyone here. there are a few people i like and a lot who i have no feeling about either way. second, spammie was one who i didn't know. i probably felt a slight leaning toward liking her from the brief interactions we had. third, it's been 12 years since i allowed myself to have any strong feelings. kearie came along and changed that. yes, i love her. she is more important to me than everything else in the world combined. spammy chose to attack my feelings and i refused to stand for it. fourth, she challenged not only my morality and integrity, but kearie's also. i refused to stand for that either. she doesn't know either of us. fifth, she took something beautiful and tried to make it dirty. she did all this with assumptions, not facts, although she posted them as facts. i'm not out for blood, nor do i want to attack her. i DO want her to take responsibility for the way she treats other people and stop blaming others for the results of her own actions. i can honestly say that i don't think about spammie at all, until she posts more bs about others and blames them for her being misunderstood. she needs to grow up and accept responsibility for her own words and actions. if she doesn't want to be judged harshly maybe she should learn to stop forming judgements of other people first. especially when she doesn't have the facts. if she thinks that i wake up in the morning thinking about how i can "get" her she has an exaggerated idea of her importance to me. she is just a name on a board who talks a lot but says nothing. |
Kearie | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 12:37 pm  Lucky The thread that Spam refered to...that she started was entirely removed by the Admin. You will not find it. It was a thread concerning "Is cheating okay" which was started the day after Laf and I expressed feelings for each other and our intentions of meeting in Phoenix. Spam managed to drag Laf and my name into this thread as an example. Yes, Laf and I posted in this thread...our opinions on cheating...and she began attacking us saying we were cheating and assuming we were going to have a sexual affair. This all occured about 2 months ago. The CB's were a group a females formed in GAME 1, otherwise known as 'Chat '. They rallied for their favorites and became friends. I really don't know much about how they formed since I was in Game 1. I must question why Spam thinks Laf and I are here 'bashing' her and trying to do her in. Neither of us posted much on these boards in the past month or more and never having anything to do with Spam. We weren't even around when Game 2 started. The Game 2 began while we were in Phoenix...we got back on the 16th of this month. As for Spam copying a private chat with me for the CB's...Wow! I never knew that. I do recall that I tried to trust her at one point and she asked me into her chat room. I went, hoping to start a friendship. She asked me about the CB's I believe...although I'm not definite. At the time, I didn't get along with some of the CB's. I will say, that no matter what I said...I have always been honest and twisted truths for NO ONE. Hope this helped a little. |
Lafatme | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 01:58 pm  okay, now i AM mad! in her one on one with ocean, spam says she heard, before the game started, that kearie and i were gonna bash her... THAT'S A LIE!!! neither of us even knew she was in the game until we returned from phoenix and began reading. prior to the game we were too busy with each other to even give a thought to spam. she's reading the discussion boards, that's the only way she would know we're back and posting. either that or someone is giving here info. neither kearie nor myself has posted a bad word about spam since that thread she started 2 months ago. now that we respond to her inaccurate statements in the game about us, she claims we've been "out to get her"? is there a therapist in the house? spam needs one badly. ps: kearie's husband knew we were meeting and spam knew that but chose to ignore it in her ramblings. |
Kearie | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 02:07 pm  "I'm ready to say "haha what a trick i pulled on you" and be a little more... real me-ish... and although, I'm sure, many of you on the outside (especially 2 people who did something that most of us consider awful, but blame me for making it awful by telling them what it was) think this IS the real me, so be it..."...quote from Spam's latest RR Report. I still want to know what Laf and I did. My husband is well aware of the fact that I met Laf in Phoenix. He knew before I went to Phoenix that Laf would be there and he said it was okay. (My best friend also lives in Phoenix and I went to visit her also...which I do every year.) My husband is aware of all the gifts that Laf has gotten me...for my birthday and Christmas. My husband is aware that Laf loves me and that I have very strong feelings for Laf. My husband is blind about nothing that concerns Laf and I. How is this cheating? Gosh oh gosh...why am I defending myself again? Spam's opinion on cheating reflects my own. Cheating is WRONG!!! I have been so honest on these boards and opened myself up to everyone...prior to Game 1 and in Game 1. I have been honest about my mental illness, about my family and about Laf and I came clean when I was cheating in Game 1. I don't hate Spam, I hate her assumptions, her judgements and her behavior. I don't hate people who like her, nor do I hate people who think that I am cheating on my husband. Who is the REAL SPAM? I honestly don't know...and I seriously doubt she does either. I find that sad. I do know that if she were to allow herself to be vulnerable, open and honest about herself, I for one could and could find compassion for her. Not pity, but compassion. The girl is definitely hurting very deeply and needs to learn to trust. |
Lafatme | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 02:25 pm  the situation which spam keeps referring to as "wrong" is a difficult one and not to be taken callously. we never talked to her about it, as she claims. we talked to digi and, i think, nos in chat one night when spam was lurking there, so she overheard part of the conversation and ran with it. the thread she started was based on the partial information she had, the rest she just assumed in order to arrive at the conclusion she desired. she knows NOTHING except that kearie and i met in phoenix. she continues to ignore the fact that kearie has told her husband about us and how we feel. that doesn't jive with her foregone conclusions so she dismisses it. she never mentioned either of us since november until we started posting to the game discussions-why? one answer comes to mind-she is reading this board. SPAM, STOP IT-IT'S CHEATING AND YOU'RE AGAINST THAT-REMEMBER? so my question now is "who is the real cheater?" where is all that integrity now, spam? get a life and leave kearie and i out of it!!! (i know you're reading this or someone is reading it to you, how else could you be replying?) |
Mishamisha | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 02:29 pm  Lafatme Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 08:34 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hi everyone, we're back! Oh, get a grip Laf. She has access to the non-game related threads like all the other BGs. I found this in General Discussions, and I'm sure she saw it too. Stop being so paranoid. |
Lafatme | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 02:31 pm  mish, where is there any bashing of spam by me on the general board? why does she think kearie and i are "out to get her"? we hadn't even thought about her until now. |
Gail | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 02:32 pm  i guess i am paranoid too |
Lafatme | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 02:46 pm  thanks gail |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 03:52 pm  I'd like to step back and take a little "bigger picture" look at something then pose a question to people--especially people that interact with Spam in ways that go beyond posts on this board. In her RR, she makes comments about being bored, about her approach to the game and how she's going to stir things up. She talked about how she cares (or doesn't) about other's feelings and how they feel about her. In the game, she provides a different story. There are a couple consistencies, however for the most part the stories don't match (for now I'll leave out pasting in all the comparisons, unless asked for). This reminds me of the Star Trek episode where Spock overloads Harry Mudd's robot by telling the robot he is a liar, then says he's lying. So, my question is, which is the real truth? Does she tell us one thing in RR to test the people she cares about, or is the RR the truth, and she's really jerking around her fellow BGs?? She can't be doing both, from what I can tell from what she says in RR and in the various parts of the game. So, is Spam being Spock, and does she consider us or the BGs the robot? So, those of you who interact with Spam, would you please speak up?? |
Moondance | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 04:07 pm  Not exactly sure what you are asking Lance.... simple, please, Mr. Spock! |
Kearie | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 12:42 pm  Errr, Thanks for the apology Spammie Girl. Not sure I understand what you're saying about how a misunderstanding occured due to a third party...but thanks. |
Norwican | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 08:48 am  Haven't had much interaction with Spam (I am not good at the type of riddles she had in her contest - so I did not enter)... I am not into playing "mind" games and it does appear that she enjoys that especially when she is bored. |
Tukuul | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 11:12 am  This is one of the ways I make my decision. On what basis does Spam have to be slamming Merlin? I don't get it. Spam is off her rocker. Maybe nobody likes her because she IS being herself and nobody likes that either. lol! The only reason she likes Elitist is because he puts up with her shit. She likes everyone who will bow down to her and kiss her ass and tell her all the things she wants to hear. From this morning's RR: "If you were to suffocate one player (currently in the game)with a bag until they pass out, who would it be? Would you use paper or plastic? Spamgirl snaps: Plastic. Merlin." |
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