Archive through January 27, 2001

The ClubHouse: The Game II - Discussions: Game II Discussions: Player Discussions: Spammie ~~~ Genius or ^&%$#%: Archive through January 27, 2001

Soeur

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 11:40 am Click here to edit this post

Not a very nice question to ask though, Tuk. Is it?

Vitresse

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 11:49 am Click here to edit this post

I think that, no matter who it was she said, somebody would find a reason to slam her for it.

At least she answered the question, unlike other people who we all know really would like to do that, but said nothing so they wouldn't get attacked.

What about Guruchaz, who chose Spamgirl? Has she done anything to him in the game to deserve that kind of treatment?

Soeur

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 11:51 am Click here to edit this post

I think it was a horrible question to ask people.

Vitresse

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 12:00 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree! Who came up with it? Was it another "viewer question"?

The other problem with that question is you don't know if an answer was said in honesty or in jest, because sometimes people don't make these things clear. Then again, if you had to follow up each message with "Such and such was a joke, but such and such was meant the way it was written, and such and such was sarcastic, and such and such was really just a big pile of smelly fly-infested fecal matter", this place would get very full, very quickly.

Bamagirl

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 12:30 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree too!!

I am hoping it was meant as a fun topic but was not follow up with asking why?

Vitresse

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 12:34 pm Click here to edit this post

That is a problem! I have seen that most questions include a why, but this one did not.

Then again, many questions which are followed up by a "Why?" are answered with cryptic or really nonsensical answers, which completely defeats the purpose.

Maybe The Interrogator had a feeling that if the question was answered at all, the "Why?" would not be answered in a way that he would approve of? I guess we should ask him!

Mishamisha

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 12:44 pm Click here to edit this post

I find it interesting that you guys fail to recognize that at least she ANSWERED the question, something most of the BG's have failed so far to do. If you're going to slam her for that, why not attack her for her answer to the other question, about blowing up a country for world peace?!?!

She has the right to have issues about Merlin. She apparently feels he has betrayed her. None of us know how she FEELS unless she says so. It's really none of our business why she no longer trusts him, it's her prerogative to decide who to trust and who not to. The fact that she was willing to answer those two questions (silly though they were) shows to me that she has more balls than those who refused to even attempt to answer them.

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 12:47 pm Click here to edit this post

Tuk--I notice Guru had an answer right away too, yet you didn't indicate that being a problem. Is it ok for one, and not the other?

She brought up an interesting question. Guru acted certain ways the whole time he was here, and was not appreciated by a lot of people. Now he's been "nice" since in the game, and many are saying he's a decent guy. She also points out that he assumed OI was faking it (or at least using being sick as an excuse), and came down on Juju by assuming what she meant by her comments. I'll throw in when he said that New was his token pin cushion. Not many have even questioned these comments as being inappropriate.

If one of the approaches is to use facts when making comments, should one also make comments to the facts??

I throw this out not because I'm for or against Spam or Guru. Just trying to shed some light on things and promote discussion. I see nothing wrong with saying that someone you're rooting for screwed up. So far, not a lot of that has taken place---IMHO most have made a couple mistakes along the way.

Moondance

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 01:04 pm Click here to edit this post

Misha... you are right... I was way more bummed that she wanted to get ride of the US then how she felt about Merlin!:)

Resortgirl

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 01:06 pm Click here to edit this post

I guess the only BG that really stands out in my mind, positively or negatively is Spam. I can't really put my finger on it but I don't think half of what she says is true or who she says she is for that matter. And as I said, I have no concrete proof, just an instinct about her. I guess there is probably no where in the rules that says you must be who you say you are. So she really hasn't done anything wrong. I guess when I interact with people here I just trust what they say is the truth. As I do. Oh well, time will tell with Spam... as the saying goes "Oh what a tangled web we weave...."

Mishamisha

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 01:07 pm Click here to edit this post

Moon, you totally missed the point.

Moondance

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 01:16 pm Click here to edit this post

I was joking Misha... I put a smiley but I guess that got lost too...

Vitresse

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 01:19 pm Click here to edit this post

What do you not believe, Resortgirl? I think I am probably the one person here who knows the most about her.

I have yet to see her lie about herself within or outside The Game II.

Resortgirl

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 01:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Vitresse,
I guess I read where someone asked her about being a member of "Mensa" and she was really vague about it, saying she was "really young" when she was a member which at 21 years of age she is really young now! Also she listed the companies she is affiliated with and as I said I can't put my finger on it it but it doesn't all ring true. And I guess it doesn't matter enough to me to "investigate" my suspicions. I was really just stating an opinion about her and it's worth about

Vitresse

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 01:55 pm Click here to edit this post

Resortgirl - Her experience with MENSA was a very negative one, and she tries not to talk about it. In fact, the only time I saw her mention it in here was when Ocean_Islands directly asked her about it.

She was very young when she was a part of it, but if she hasn't told you the age, I don't feel it is my place either.

Yes, she does own both Cosmic Productions and Aurora Design Group. If you want proof, you can contact her at the email addresses there and ask for her information - I'm sure she would give it all-too-freely.

Well, I really don't think it is fair for you to say you believe she is being dishonest if you can't be bothered investigating it. By mentioning someone to people who hold you in high regards, it tends to plant a seed in their minds. Sometimes it's important to make sure what you said is based on facts.

In fact, people were upset at Spamgirl because they believed that what she was saying about Merlin wasn't based on facts. That is a very good example.

Resortgirl

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:03 pm Click here to edit this post

Vitresse,
Are you saying that you never have an "opinion" of someone based on your gut reaction or instinct? You only base your "opinions" on concrete evidence?

I sincerely doubt that anyone here holds me in high regard and even if they do they are all bright, articulate people. I doubt that I could plant seeds or anything else in there minds or sway them. They all seem to do very well thinking for themselves.

I am sorry if I hurt your feelings by talking about a close friend of yours. Spam knew that by participating in the "Game" that everything she said would be analyzed and put under a microscope. I will be careful in the future on voicing my most humble opinions though.

Vitresse

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:09 pm Click here to edit this post

I'm saying that I never share an opinion, especially one as negative as yours, without first pointing out that it was only an OPINION. Typically, if I don't have proof of my opinion, I keep it to myself.

You have never hurt my feelings, I'm just questioning whether or not it's appopriate to state an opinion so damaging without first researching it OR stating very clearly it IS an opinion.

Rereading your post, you do say somewhat that it is opinion. I just don't believe it is a fair opinion, seeing it has no basis, and the proof shows that it isn't correct (at least about MENSA and her associations).

Bamagirl

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:09 pm Click here to edit this post

A post was said about attacking Spam...for the record..I do not feel I have!

I posted to your one post (on the other thread) saying I thought that Spam and Merlin had worked things out is all...so it was hard to understand why she is upset with him again.

Guess not!!!

I do hope they can talk and settle things...

I said in that post also..

I just do not see Merlin as the type to do that...again *JMO*

I still feel that way!!! (might be totally wrong)...I am entitled to what I think.

Cammie

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:11 pm Click here to edit this post

<holding Resortgirl very highly in regard>

Vitresse

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:16 pm Click here to edit this post

Bamagirl, I am not saying that everyone attacked her, or that the attack was in here. I'm just stating some posts here do seem to be incredibly mean, and seem to be honest attacks.

I also hope they talk about it, but I don't think we will see it. I'm fairly sure Spamgirl will wait until they are all outside the game and on level ground.

Resortgirl

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:16 pm Click here to edit this post

LOL... thanks Cammie... I was just about to return to lurking....

Vitresse,
On a board like this if we only shared what we knew to be absolutely, positively true I am thinking there would not be much reading material. I really don't think what I said in my original post was that damaging to Spam. I guess I have seen "meaner" things said about her. And I will tell you that they didn' sway me... I formed my opinions about her on things that came straight from her. Again, if I stepped on your toes, sorry!

Vitresse

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:24 pm Click here to edit this post

That's OK, Resortgirl.

Moondance

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:27 pm Click here to edit this post

I am holding RGirl there too...

Vit... if you have been around then you should be aware of how much hurt Spam has caused and to say we are attacking... it could be that we are defending because she has gone on the attack too many times...JMOpinion

There are too many posts to post here for proof

Vitresse

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:40 pm Click here to edit this post

I don't feel she has attacked people very often. I've only seen one situation where she attacked people, and they seemed to bring it on themselves. Otherwise, I think sometimes she is a little too honest about her opinions, but rarely attacks for attacking sake.

Moondance

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 03:00 pm Click here to edit this post

That is your opinion Vit... I beg to differ and is my right to do so... and I am sure I am not alone on this one!