Archive through January 15, 2001

The ClubHouse: The Game II - Mysterious Puzzler: Discussions/Challenges: Challenges: Challenge #1: Archive through January 15, 2001

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:54 pm Click here to edit this post

I would assume that a confirmation letter could be sent by an assistant.

We could approach a question as:

Is Jack Hal relevant?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:58 pm Click here to edit this post

Notes:
- Handwriting is all different
- Timeline
…25-Sep-92 sent letter requesting addition to policy
…1-Oct-92 got reply asking for signature
…12-Oct-92 reply from audrey
…15-Oct-92 changes effective
…12-Nov-92 confirmation
…25-Jul-93 ernie dead
…29-Jul-93 death told to company
…18-Mar-94 letter to company from irene
…31-Mar-94 new address effective
…2-Apr-94 complaint lodged
- Gibralter is in Ireland and Kenya is in East Africa
- The one off spain is GibraltAr, The one in ireland is GibraltEr

Things in RED have been answered no, BLUE answered yes

- Does Ernie Buckle is anagrammed to Irene Clubek mean anything?
- Is the fact Audrey specified Renee as the benificiary and Irene is the one asking for benefits significant? Is the fact that Audrey signed her name Audie significant? (nicknames)
- Is the fact that the cousin took 7 months to ask for money important?
- Is the spelling of the word Gibralter significant?
- Did Christine Cooper notice something about locations?
- Is there something wrong there because Christine didn't actually sign the authorization?
- Is Jack Hal relevant?
- Is the crossed out "beneficiaries" important? (i.e. a Freudian slip?)
- Does it have anything to do with Audrey and Ernie not filling out the 22A form properly in the first place? (At first Audrey forgot to put a beneficiary if she and Ernie died together - maybe another Freudian slip?)
- Is the fact that Audrey's body wasn't found important? (i.e. she ain't dead)
- Did Ernie really request the additional insurance or did his wife claim it was him? (The insurance company was doing their communications with him, but It seems the wife was the one doing all the communicating with the company on her own)
- Does it have anything to do with Irene's signature? (Even though WE didn't see the signature, Christine did (on form 22A or whatever)... maybe it looked like Irene's?)
- Do the rules/laws in Gibralter or Kenya matter?
- Was Irene informed by the insurance company of a claim? (i.e. she wasn't informed, therefore how did she know?)
- Does it have to do with the above BECAUSE IF SHE WAS REALLY IRENE SHE'D STILL HOLD THE HOPE THAT AUDREY MAY STILL BE ALIVE??

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:00 pm Click here to edit this post

Spam, I think we can eliminate the one about Irene's signature. If it was important, they would have shown us, right?

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:01 pm Click here to edit this post

Don't forget guys....We also get one hint

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:03 pm Click here to edit this post

done

Azriel

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:09 pm Click here to edit this post

Irene Clubek and Jack Hal's handwriting look close to me. The capitol C and small k are alot alike. I dunno I might be stretching for something though.

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:14 pm Click here to edit this post

What about a question to the effect:

Is a document missing?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:14 pm Click here to edit this post

I think you're stretching it ;)

Seeing it had files attached and yadda yadda, I think that's a non-issue :)

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:16 pm Click here to edit this post

I also notice in the fax from the police the first sentence says:

"Your telephone message of 27/07/93 handed to me this a.m."

What message? Is that relevant?

Azriel

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:19 pm Click here to edit this post

What I'm saying Spam is that Jack Hal could be defrauding the company and added that file after seeing that these people died together with no beneficiary listed.

Guruchaz

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:21 pm Click here to edit this post

Interesting red herring with the anagrams.

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:22 pm Click here to edit this post

New - the Gibralter thing would be it it was actually Gibraltar, then Audrey and Irene misspelled it the same. Irene probably would not misspell the name of the place she was living.

It makes sense it was Gibraltar, not Gibralter, since she is moving to East Africa which is just south of Gibraltar.

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:24 pm Click here to edit this post

Should we pose that as the next question:

Did Christine Cooper notice the Gibraltar misspelling?

Guruchaz

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:26 pm Click here to edit this post

Oh man, don't tell me this was a "spelling bee" puzzle. How funny.

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:27 pm Click here to edit this post

OH AZ, that's good... you're right, didn't think of that

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:27 pm Click here to edit this post

Notes:
- Handwriting is all different
- Timeline
…25-Sep-92 sent letter requesting addition to policy
…1-Oct-92 got reply asking for signature
…12-Oct-92 reply from audrey
…15-Oct-92 changes effective
…12-Nov-92 confirmation
…25-Jul-93 ernie dead
…29-Jul-93 death told to company
…18-Mar-94 letter to company from irene
…31-Mar-94 new address effective
…2-Apr-94 complaint lodged
- Gibralter is in Ireland and Kenya is in East Africa
- The one off spain is GibraltAr, The one in ireland is GibraltEr

Things in RED have been answered no, BLUE answered yes

- Is the fact that the claimant's name, Irene Clubek, is an anagram of the name of the deceased, Ernie Buckle, any way related to the item that raised Ms. Cooper's suspicions of fraud (false claim) and felony (murder of Ernie Buckle)?
- Is the fact Audrey specified Renee as the benificiary and Irene is the one asking for benefits significant? Is the fact that Audrey signed her name Audie significant? (nicknames)
- Is the fact that the cousin took 7 months to ask for money important?
- Is the spelling of the word Gibralter significant?
- Did Christine Cooper notice something about locations?
- Is there something wrong there because Christine didn't actually sign the authorization?
- Is Jack Hal relevant?
- Is the crossed out "beneficiaries" important? (i.e. a Freudian slip?)
- Does it have anything to do with Audrey and Ernie not filling out the 22A form properly in the first place? (At first Audrey forgot to put a beneficiary if she and Ernie died together - maybe another Freudian slip?)
- Is the fact that Audrey's body wasn't found important? (i.e. she ain't dead)
- Did Ernie really request the additional insurance or did his wife claim it was him? (The insurance company was doing their communications with him, but It seems the wife was the one doing all the communicating with the company on her own)
- Do the rules/laws in Gibralter or Kenya matter?
- Was Irene informed by the insurance company of a claim? (i.e. she wasn't informed, therefore how did she know?)
- Does it have to do with the above because if she was really Irene she'd still hold the hope that Audrey may still be alive?
- Is a document missing?
- Is "Your telephone message of 27/07/93 handed to me this a.m." relevant?
- Did Christine Cooper notice the Gibraltar misspelling?

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:27 pm Click here to edit this post

I think it is a good question (maybe rephrased) but there are other good questions out there also. It could be a red herring, just like the anagrams, though.

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:33 pm Click here to edit this post

In the chat room, I suggested that maybe we should pick four more questions and then ask for the hint....what you guys think?

Azriel

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:34 pm Click here to edit this post

Christine said the case might also involve a felony. Perhaps, she thinks that Jack Hal (and/with Audrey Buckle) murdered Ernie Buckle.

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Jack Hal = Jackal

Azriel

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:37 pm Click here to edit this post

I don't think the rules/laws in Kenya or Gibralter have anything to do with it. Sounds like a waste of a good question to me. :)

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:40 pm Click here to edit this post

Notes:
- Handwriting is all different
- Timeline
…25-Sep-92 sent letter requesting addition to policy
…1-Oct-92 got reply asking for signature
…12-Oct-92 reply from audrey
…15-Oct-92 changes effective
…12-Nov-92 confirmation
…25-Jul-93 ernie dead
…29-Jul-93 death told to company
…18-Mar-94 letter to company from irene
…31-Mar-94 new address effective
…2-Apr-94 complaint lodged
- Gibralter is in Ireland and Kenya is in East Africa
- The one off spain is GibraltAr, The one in ireland is GibraltEr
- Jack Hal = Jackal

Things in RED have been answered no, BLUE answered yes

- Is the fact that the claimant's name, Irene Clubek, is an anagram of the name of the deceased, Ernie Buckle, any way related to the item that raised Ms. Cooper's suspicions of fraud (false claim) and felony (murder of Ernie Buckle)?

- Is the fact Audrey specified "Renee" as the benificiary and "Irene" is the one asking for benefits significant? OR Is the fact that Audrey signed her name "Audie" significant?

- Is the fact that the cousin took 7 months to ask for money important?

- Is the spelling of the word Gibralter significant? OR Did Christine Cooper notice the Gibraltar misspelling? OR Did Christine Cooper notice something about locations?
- Is there something wrong there because Christine didn't actually sign the authorization?

- Is Jack Hal relevant?

- Is the crossed out "beneficiaries" important? (i.e. a Freudian slip?)

- Does it have anything to do with Audrey and Ernie not filling out the 22A form properly in the first place? (At first Audrey forgot to put a beneficiary if she and Ernie died together - maybe another Freudian slip?)

- Is the fact that Audrey's body wasn't found important? (i.e. she ain't dead)

- Did Ernie really request the additional insurance or did his wife claim it was him? (The insurance company was doing their communications with him, but It seems the wife was the one doing all the communicating with the company on her own)

- Do the rules/laws in Gibralter or Kenya matter?

- Was Irene informed by the insurance company of a claim? (i.e. she wasn't informed, therefore how did she know?) OR Is a document missing?

- Does it have to do with the fact that if she was really Irene she'd still hold the hope that Audrey may still be alive?

- Is "Your telephone message of 27/07/93 handed to me this a.m." relevant?

- Did Jack Hal have anything to do with the murder of Ernie Buckle?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:52 pm Click here to edit this post

Map of Gibraltar | Map of Kenya

Guruchaz

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 02:05 pm Click here to edit this post

Irene is Audrey trying to collect on both deaths (her husband and faking her own) since, as Elitist pointed out, Gibralter is misspelled by both Irene and Audrey. If Irene had lived in that country, she would know how to spell it properly.

Juju2bigdog

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 02:08 pm Click here to edit this post

spam, bless your heart. I just spent a whole bunch of time trying to get maps of kenya and gibraltar.