Gail | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 02:51 pm  i am with lance - may the best game player win - man or woman, it does not matter. |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 02:53 pm  Either way it's discounting one gender in a game that either can, AND deserve to win at. Just because a person is a male is no reason to say you shouldn't want them to win. Moon, you didn't answer my question above---would it be ok with you for any man to say "I don't care who wins, as long as it's a man"? Saying you want a woman to win is the same as saying you don't want a man to win. I still hold the winner of the Game shouldn't be based on the gender of the player. Do you think it should??? |
Wink | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 02:57 pm  Absolutely Lance it worked in game I didn't it. LOLOL. |
Soeur | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:00 pm  No, of course it should not. I really liked Moon's point, though. Like Marlon Brando in On the Waterfront... "ah jus wanna be uh contenda..." |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:01 pm  Lance...I think you have your answer already so that would redundant... I have not said one or the other BTW... I really want the one who deserves to win, win, period |
Wink | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:03 pm  Lance may the best man/woman/kinkaju win. |
Tukuul | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:03 pm  Yes, you had your female winner so there. J/K Don't throw trash. |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:07 pm  Lance said >seems it's ok for females to talk about the competition in terms of gender...even saying to the point that a female should win< whhaaatttt????? I did not see in any of the redrooms that a female said that a man could not be a rival... we were talking about Merlin making the point about females were not his rivals and he worried about the males instead... we were making a counter point...lighten up |
Hostess1 | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:09 pm  And, speaking of Voting... Nominations are posted (here). Gamers will not know until tonight in chat! MUAHahahahhahah |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:15 pm  Just noticing that non of the females raised a voice or any banners (3 already for Merlin's comment) when gender based comments are raised about women winning, or should win. Plain and simple, it didn't happen. Disrespect of a gender (or dismissal of one) is just that, no matter how it's stated. And no, the question I asked didn't get answered. "Moon, you didn't answer my question above---would it be ok with you for any man to say "I don't care who wins, as long as it's a man"?" It's a yes or no answer. Getting tired of double standards in this male/female issue. I didn't bring it up in game I, and wasn't going to here (by either gender). Merlin makes one comment about feeling his competition is from the men, not the women, and some folks (not all) get riled up and start sending banners. I don't remember any revolt when the woman discounted the men (and saying you want the winner to be desired by gender is discounting the other gender and any abilities they have in the game) So much for equality. |
Lalavoom | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:17 pm  Excellent point Moon! Merlin is the one who brought gender into this by discounting all females as potential rivals SIMPLY because they are females. People are only reacting to Merlin's comments. Anyway, gender always comes into play in life's little situations. If it SHOULD or not is a different thing entirely.
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Wink | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:18 pm  Lance you probably don't remember any revolt when the women discounted the men cause it didn't happen. |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:20 pm  You have stated your point for Merlin now state what you are talking about as far as the women saying (you said whining...what you think men can't) about men and the game ... I need to facts and proof so I can comment... And Lance I did answer your question and I am not 3 |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:22 pm  What Lala said! |
Wink | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:25 pm  Yes Lance state it like Moon said and I am 1. |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:26 pm  lol... would make me older then Wink by 4 years |
Wink | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:33 pm  Oh Moon now I'm the goof. I thought you were using Az's numbers from the flirting thing!!ROFLMAO |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:35 pm  Thats even funnier! |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:37 pm  So noms are: Elitist Merlin NewAmUsh Joni |
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:38 pm  Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:18 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lance you probably don't remember any revolt when the women discounted the men cause it didn't happen. Wink, my exact point--no one stood up and said it wasn't ok to say. That is my issue! Merlin make a comment and women fly off the handle. Yet, when the women make the game about gender, no revolt. Moon, I didn't say it was in a current RR that a woman said that. I said it occurred in game I when you and May both said it. And my reference to this game was a post by one of us--it was an off-handed comment made. |
Wink | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:39 pm  Lance please read Azriel #1 to Merlin. |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:44 pm  I remember talking to Himay about how it would be nice to see a woman win since a man won BigBrother and they have not have had a woman to win in any of the other ones either... I don't see how that is offence to any gender, please explain.... |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:45 pm  I would have expected a Man to say that if it was the other way around... just nice to see a balance, that is all |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:46 pm  I don't understand why you have made this such a gender issue.... seems like the men in this game.... inside and out have it one not the women! |
Moondance | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 03:50 pm  BTW... When Wink answered to "I am not 3" she thought I was referring to the Az thread in the game ... but I wasn't ... she was just being nice and funny! |