Elitist | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:18 am  Might as well post it, but maybe word it such that if it isn't the direct item, that it has something to do with it. Such as: Is the fact that the claimant's name, Irene Clubek is an anagram of the name of the deceased, Ernie Buckle any way related to the item that raised Ms. Cooper's suspicions of fraud (false claim) and felony (murder of ernie buckle) |
Spamgirl | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:20 am  Elit, you gotta go post it in the questions thread... Here |
Elitist | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:22 am  Are we agreed to post it? And I think Juju or New should have the honor - since they got the anagrams. |
Spamgirl | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:23 am  Nod - Ju, New, one of ya post it I think it's a good start... and we can't wait for everyone to get home that leaves us with 14 more questions anyways BUT we are a group I'm not going to say |
Newamush | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:25 am  Do we want to do it without talking to everyone else? |
Elitist | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:26 am  Yes - there are at least 4 of us here, it is a good question, and we have 14 left. |
Newamush | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:26 am  Should I use question as you wrote it Elite? |
Spamgirl | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:27 am  I'm scared (biting nails) ;) Well, let's see... Votes yes: Juju, New, Elit, Spamgirl Aren't here for sure: Guru (out with Fiancee), ML (out until 5pm), OI (??) Are here but haven't answered: CAMMIE, Azriel (should be here momentarily?!?) |
Elitist | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:29 am  Send it as I wrote it - I think it has the best chance to give us info if we are incorrect. |
Newamush | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:32 am  It's posted Congratulations on our first semi-group decision |
Elitist | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:32 am  NO WAIT! Don't send it yet Newa! |
Elitist | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:41 am  Well there goes that theory. Back to the drawing board. Next set of questions? |
Spamgirl | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:45 am  OMG no... insane |
Elitist | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:48 am  I think our solution was too complicated - why would someone be looking for anagrams like that? We have to look for something simpler, some way the crook slipped up in what they wrote or what they knew. Still think the Gibralter thing is a possibility. |
Juju2bigdog | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:49 am  Whoa!!!! blow me down. I was sure that was it. back to the drawing board. and now the dang spouse is wanting on the computer to check a recipe!!!! thinking about food at an important time like this. can you believe it? Juju2baffleddog |
Juju2bigdog | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:53 am  back to spam's chart. can you post it again, spam? |
Spamgirl | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:10 pm  Notes: - Handwriting is all different - How did cousin know where to ask for money? (possibly answered by: Audrey told her) - Timeline …25-Sep-92 sent letter requesting addition to policy …1-Oct-92 got reply asking for signature …12-Oct-92 reply from audrey …15-Oct-92 changes effective …12-Nov-92 confirmation …25-Jul-93 ernie dead …29-Jul-93 death told to company …18-Mar-94 letter to company from irene …31-Mar-94 new address effective …2-Apr-94 complaint lodged - Gibralter is in Ireland and Kenya is in East Africa - The one off spain is GibraltAr, The one in ireland is GibraltEr Things in RED have been answered no, BLUE answered yes - Is the fact that Audrey refers to nicknames for both herself and her cousin (Irene/Reenee, Audrey/Audie) important? - Is the fact that the cousin took 7 months to ask for money important? - Does Ernie Buckle is anagrammed to Irene Clubek mean anything? - Is the crossed out "beneficiaries" important? (i.e. a Freudian slip?) - Does it have anything to do with Audrey and Ernie not filling out the 22A form properly in the first place? (At first Audrey forgot to put a beneficiary if she and Ernie died together - maybe another Freudian slip?) - Is the fact that Audrey's body wasn't found important? (i.e. she ain't dead) - Did Ernie really request the additional insurance or did his wife claim it was him? (The insurance company was doing their communications with him, but It seems the wife was the one doing all the communicating with the company on her own) - Does it have anything to do with Irene's signature? (Even though WE didn't see the signature, Christine did (on form 22A or whatever)... maybe it looked like Irene's?) - Do the rules/laws in Gibralter or Kenya matter? |
Newamush | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:20 pm  I still think it has something to do with the fact that there is no notice telling "Irene Clubek" she was getting a claim. |
Azriel | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:22 pm  I'm here going to the site to read it now |
Spamgirl | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:33 pm  - Does it have to do with the fact that the cousin tried to claim the money even though she hadn't been contacted about it before? - Does it have to do with the above BECAUSE IF SHE WAS REALLY IRENE SHE'D STILL HOLD THE HOPE THAT AUDREY MAY STILL BE ALIVE?? |
Newamush | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:35 pm  That's kind of the direction I was going in. How did she know she was the beneficiary? A question could be, Was Irene informed by the insurance company of a claim. |
Elitist | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:48 pm  I think we should get the discrepancies out of the way: Is the fact Audrey specified Renee as the benificiary and Irene is the one asking for benefits significant? Is the fact that Audrey signed her name Audie significant? Is the spelling of the word Gibralter significant? (sorry, had to throw my pet theory in). |
Newamush | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:50 pm  I don't think the first two would draw attention. They are both nicknames. Since her husband usually did all the "important" stuff, she would probably use nicknames for family. The last one, I don't know. What could a mispelling of Gibralter mean tho? |
Newamush | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:52 pm  A question could be: Did Christine Cooper notice something about locations? or along those lines |
Azriel | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:52 pm  Okay on the letter from Christine Cooper authorizing the beneficiary it says Jack Hal for Christine Cooper Is there something wrong there because Christine didn't acutally sign the authorization? |