Archive through January 18, 2001
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Archive through January 18, 2001
Merlin | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 11:04 pm  nope azriel, but I sure wish I had known how to. |
Guruchaz | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 11:26 pm  Viewing someone as two-faced because they make human mistakes and then ranting all over the board about it seems childish to me. Blowing things out of proportion and screaming inside about the lack of personal attention seems to be childish to me. Ranting about how you could have probably ran this game better than anyone else on this Earth seems childish to me. Taking care of a baby seems very responsible to me. Running a company from home seems very responsible to me. Having pleasant chat without being paranoid seems very responsible to me. Being open and having great conversations like in the hot tub seem very responsible to me. Maybe that's why people treat you differently. You act differently from moment to moment. All this conversation is going to lead to is animosity and that would be sad. |
Azriel | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 06:15 am  Well, darn Merlin, that looked exactly like what Spam said in chat. I was hopin we could log so I could look back later on conversations that get confusing. |
Azriel | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 06:21 am  Guru, Spam isn't ranting. She's trying to resolve something that came between herself and Merlin. Yeah, it has nothing to do with us, but they can't go in private chat. So if they don't talk about it here, then feelings simmer and fester. I'd rather see someone get their true feelings out. If Spam didn't say what her problem was with Merlin and then treated him cooly, we would really think she was a because we wouldn't understand her behavior towards him. |
Merlin | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 06:29 am  Azriel, the quote for spam I posted at 10:57 is something pasted off this gameboard. I also wanted to go back and look at that conversation in chat. Funny thing is I left so pissed off, I didn't close out the mIRC screen when I quit chat. When I was shutting down the computer last night, guess what was there for me to read over again. Yep, you guessed it. It is good to go back over a confusing and rapid conversation and be able to look again at exactly what someone said. I wished I could do this in real life. |
Juju2bigdog | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 06:51 am  MERLIN pissed off? Merlin? man oh man, things are really cooking in here. Missed it again. <throws down handful of tinkertoys and leaves> |
Spamgirl | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 07:45 am  I didn't say the thing he pasted in CHAT, I said it on the board... but no, you're not from the first one... And what i saw you say was in a chat with you, me, #1, and... misha? I think... it was in #clubchat... and #1 said something like "It's all my fault, all the uproar... but she's the one that told them" and you said "I agree, she did the wrong thing completely"... I was blown away that you'd say it infront of me... Guru - there IS animosity, and that's what I'm trying to resolve... I could have gone through the game disliking Merlin behind his back, but I decided that it was best to resolve this... I'd do it off the board, but he and I have no interactions off the board to do it in... I think it's pretty responsibile to try and sort this shit out... it would be childish to hold the grudge forever... Besides, the person I am on here is not the person who takes care of my daughtr, or my company, or is a pleasant chatter... the person I am now is the one who has been hurt by something and wants to resolve it... which is better than many, because I have it in me to forgive, and am trying to do so with Merlin... AZ - exactly... lots of people here think I'm rude and a and stuff, because I've been mean to some people in here... so I'm trying to get it all on the table... I'm dealing with my shit with OI over in the TorD thread, and I'm dealing with my shit with Merlin here... IF YOU WANT TO LOG CHATS IN MIRC - all you have to do is click on the little blue and white icon in the top left corner and choose "Logging"... when you want to turn it off, do the same. |
Merlin | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 08:53 am  Thanks for clearing up the question about being two-faced. It is difficult to understand who you are referring to in a post if it is not addressed to someone in particular. What I am understanding you to say, and please correct what I have wrong, is that you dislike me. The reason is because I said something in front of you and you think someone else. You are crediting me to being on record as agreeing that what someone did was wrong. You feel I should have taken a neutral position and supported both of these people. Okay, in addressing this. Is this the only thing I have done to cause you to dislike me? I will go on record in front of everyone, I still feel the betrayal of a confidence is wrong. What you are not remembering or aware of is that both parties betrayed a confidence and I also told the other person I felt they were wrong for the very same reason. Would this count as supporting both parties equally? There is still a contention in my mind as to the location of this conversation that blew you away. There were too many details in the chat last night where Azriel was still present that were duplicates of a supposedly private chat. Even factoring in senility, I just do not see myself having two extensive conversations that were identical. |
Spamgirl | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 09:02 am  I know Merlin, but I'm dealing with everyone one at a time... I don't DISLIKE you... I never intended that to come across... I just disliked what you DID, and it upset me because I thought we were pals... and so it made me think about being pals with you, and if this thing that I disliked about you was enough to not be pals anymore... That is the only thing you've done infront of me, anyways, that I disliked so far... I didn't see you tell #1 you thought what she did was wrong too! That would make it alright in my mind, as long as you said that to both... but from what I saw and heard, it seemed to be one-sided... but if you say you said that to #1, I believe you... and that makes it better in my eyes... What did I say last night that was identical?? All my info I got a) from that one chat and b) from #2... #1 never said anything to me about it... unless you're mistaken and the "private" chat you had was really not so private? I'm pretty sure Misha (or someone else, I just can't remember who) was there too... There, I just asked Misha, and she remembers it too... but she and I were talking in #spamgirl at the time, so you probably didn't even notice us in #clubchat |
Spamgirl | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 09:20 am  Quote from Misha: That was weird. He must've forgotten we were in there, since we hadn't posted in so long. I guess it's easy to forget who's in the room when you're in a deep conversation. I didn't know what he was talking about, and I'm still not sure if I get the whole thing, but we were both there whether he remembers it or not. |
Guruchaz | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 09:28 am  Fine, I said how I feel and now I'm out of it. |
Merlin | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 09:44 am  Spam, in a post you made to Guru in this thread. Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 07:45 am ... I could have gone through the game disliking Merlin behind his back, If you are now saying that this was not the wording that correctly communicated what you were trying to say, then consider this cleared up. I accept I will do things you dislike. Will that be a problem for our relationship on your part? How about telling me it is a problem when it becomes a problem? That is the only thing you've done infront of me, anyways, that I disliked so far... This implies that you suspect I have done something not in front of you. I am asking you, is there something you suspect? Am I guilty because you have seen other people do this with you? If you suspect something, then ask. I don't mind answering. Consider the question about where you heard me say the thing that blew you away as being complete. It has been answered now. |
Elitist | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 09:59 am  I don't want this to seem like "Pick on Spam Day" but did she just contact Misha to confirm something about an outside conversation which is being discussed in this thread? And didn't she mention something about a discussion with the Hostesses about the running of the game? Did I miss something or aren't we supposed to be sequestered when it comes to talking about anything that has to do with the game? |
Elitist | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:02 am  And while I am at it, it seemed last night in chat that when anyone said anything that could be remotely construed as being from outside information, one or more individuals would pipe up with "How do you know what is going on outside?". Do you guys think someone is cheating or are you just as paranoid as I am? |
Merlin | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:10 am  I would like to talk about the mind construct thing you dropped on us in chat last night. You had me thinking it was real. The concept could be a good topic. You want to start it over again? |
Elitist | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:19 am  I don't know if I want to start it over or not. After all in the light of day things always change. What would you like to know? |
Merlin | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:29 am  It was hard for me to follow what you were saying. With so many posts from so many people at the same time, I have difficulty in following the conversation. What you were posting was coming across as being real things you were aware of. Then at the end, you replied it was constructed. I assumed you had something in mind when you did this. If it was to make us think about possibilities, you have my attention. How about creating it again from where you started and allow us to consider what you say and respond to it. It went so fast, or I am so slow, I dont remember the response you got. Are you just being coy, Elit? Ya wanna get a room? |
Elitist | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:30 am  OK I will start a discussion thread. Look for it soon. |
Juju2bigdog | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:38 am  And how was it that Merlin, spam, digi, and MishaMisha were in clubchat together? Or are we talking pregame? aren't we banned from clubchat? Or, is spam as gu using gSP? |
Elitist | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:40 am  And how was it Juju was trying to get Merlin into #oneonone? Is that one of our chats, or were you trying to hide your secret plans from us? |
Spamgirl | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:53 am  I'm just saying that there may be things about you I might dislike in future, Merl, that I hacn't sen yet I contacted misha about a conversation that happened OUTSIDE the game that has carried over here... I did not discuss the GAME with her, I asked her "Where you the one that was in this chat with me?" and that was OUTSIDE the game... BTW - we're allowed to talk to outsiders, as long as we don't discuss the game... AND YES, I talked to a hostess about my complaints about the game - that's more than permitted! How do you think they make this place better? Elitist - define cheating. I think as long as the information you're getting doesn't give you any help in the game, OR isn't conversation from the discussion room, OR isn't about vote counts or something, it's not cheating. Really, that doesn't leave you with much. That was pregame, Juju... this happened when the whole "Second Coming of Optics" fiasco was on... And no, #oneonone IS NOT ONE OF OUR CHATS. |
Spamgirl | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 11:03 am  And, I'd like to reiterate, that this discussion is only being held within the game because a) he wasn't around BEFORE the game and b) I don't have any contact with him OUTSIDE the game... I just wanted to clear this whole situation up so that the game wouldn't be affected by it, or at least the interactions between he and I wouldn't be affected... I thought it would make for a better game in the end... If you feel that my communication with Misha was illegal, I'm more than happy to resign from the game and you can replace me too. I'd also like to say that this isn't a FIGHT, this is a discussion... I'm trying to resolve something, and so is Merlin... in fact, this is going a lot further than I'd expected because Merlin is reading things into everything I say That's OK, Merlin, at least you're asking me about these things! |
Spamgirl | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 11:05 am  And, lastly... I'm not doing this for the game in the end, I'm trying to repair a relationship... I only contacted Misha to prove to Merlin that I wasn't ghosting... and I only did it so that he would be able to believe me... this doesn't benefit me in the game, it benefits my relationship with him in the long run... As long as I can fix this with him, I'm happy... |
Elitist | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 11:11 am  I wouldn't say what you did was cheating, just bending the rules - essentially since what you asked Misha did pertain to something you were talking about in the game, therefore making it a discussion about the game. Don't know if a jury would convict you though. Cheating in the game would be deliberately breaking the rules to gain an unfair advantage. And speaking of replacing, is Joni really coming in, and if so when? Shouldn't she be here by now? |
Spamgirl | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 11:27 am  Joni will come in after banishment if they find her. Well, bending, breaking, it's all the same to me. As I said, follow the rules to the letter. Banish me, I broke the rules! |
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