Archive through January 14, 2001
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Topic 1: Finders Keepers?:
Archive through January 14, 2001
Digilady | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 10:29 am  You go to a party at a friend’s house. As usual, you park in their driveway facing the street, so you can easily leave when you wish. It comes time to go. You go to your car, and just as you’re digging out your keys, you hear sirens wailing in the distance. Approaching, even. Puzzled, you look towards the road, which curves just in front of the driveway. The sirens get louder, and now you can hear the roar of engines, as well. With a loud screech, a car flashes into view. As you watch in amazement, a window opens, and something is thrown out, just as the car rounds the curve. It accelerates and vanishes. Seconds later, a police car flies past. You stand for a moment, then curiosity gets the best of you. You make your way to the spot where the first car opened it’s window. You discover an unlocked briefcase. In it are: about half a pound of cocaine, roughly $250,000 in cash, and a handgun. What do you do? |
Spamgirl | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 10:32 am  1. Don't touch it. 2. Turn around and walk away. The cops will radio to their little headquarters that something was thrown out... if it disappears, they'll know about it. Besides, I don't need cocaine or a handgun... and who's to say the money isn't traceable? No thanks... if it was just the money, and a smaller denomination, I might think about it... but I don't think so! |
Newamush | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 10:44 am  My first response was "Hell, yes, I'd take it." But breaking it down: I wouldn't want to take the handgun. If the gun was used for a crime, I wouldn't want it found on me. The cash is iffy. There are plenty of ways of getting around "traceable" money, but still kind of risky. Being from NYC, the cocaine would be easy to get rid of and probably carry a large cash value. So I guess I would have to say, I would probably take the coke and leave all the rest. I think I would probably be able to get out of there before the police came back to check. I never realized I was so law-breaking minded.... |
Juju2bigdog | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 10:50 am  first of all, you shouldn't know about the gun, the cocaine, and the cash, because you don't touch the thing. It is pure idiocy to go open a briefcase that was tossed out by someone being chased by the police. You keep an eye on the briefcase, while concealing yourself in case somebody comes back to retrieve it. Have someone at the party call the police. You only come out of concealment when the police arrive. If somebody comes back to retrieve it before the police arrive, make note of the license plate and the vehicle occupants. |
Spamgirl | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 10:52 am  Hey New- I'm sure you're confronted with this situation daily in NYC ROFL! Just kidding You're right Juju - I wouldn't be dumb enough to go over and look... sirens? I'd be running... For what reason would I run from sirens? That just might be another story for another day... |
Cammie | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 10:53 am  I'd report what I found to the police. Keeping any of it is not worth the risk and ignoring it wouldn't help apprehend the criminals. |
Newamush | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 11:01 am  I think I come to it from the point of who cares about the criminals. They don't really concern me. I see a bunch of criminal running past me in the general course of the day, so the whole situation is a daily situation. (Maybe not to this extent, but kind of close). As I stated, that would be my first reaction, in the long run I probabaly would go back and tell everyone about it and then move the party outside to see what develops. Then again, most of my friends would want to take the coke for party favors. Someone has to bring the toys |
Guruchaz | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 11:12 am  Wipe my fingerprints off the case, keep half the cash, throw the briefcase in self disclosed location and make an anonymous tip call from a payphone to the police where it can be found. Please. This question is a setup for everyone to do the right thing and turn it all in but that's not reality. It's drug money and you really don't know how you will react until it happens to you. It's way too easy to speculate. Also, those that say they wouldn't touch the case are copping out. The scenario says you already know what's in it. Therefore, you have already opened the case, right? |
Spamgirl | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 11:33 am  See, opening the case means I'm pretty dumb... so the question should be "If you're a moron who opens the case..." Well, if I'm a moron, I can't say, can I? 'Cuz I don't think I AM a moron... (although I'm sure there are people who disagree.. but the question asks my opinion, not anyone elses) the question should have stopped before opening it and asked if we WOULD open it. But if it had popped open when it hit the ground, and this stuff was laying around, I still wouldn't take it... not because it's not the right thing to do, but because I don't want to jeopardize my life for some material things... But would I call the cops to tell them it's there? Nah, can't be bothered being involved at ALL. |
Guruchaz | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 11:37 am  This is going to be a hoot. I think everyone will suddenly get the picture of what I was talking about. Stay tuned folks. |
Guruchaz | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 12:05 pm  Besides, there's a high percentage chance that any money found with drugs will be laundered and untraceable. |
Spamgirl | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 12:11 pm  Still, I won't take the chance that there is a cop around the corner watching me... And even if I had x-ray vision, and long distance glasses, or anything... There is no certainty in not being caught, and therefore the risk would be too great... |
Guruchaz | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 12:14 pm  lol |
Ocean_Islands | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 12:15 pm  It's pretty simple. Take the money and run. No touch gun. No touch coca cola. When you get home, it's time to cook. Follow this recipe: Take one stash of $250,000. Remove rubber bands. Dump in bucket. Carry to washing machine. Dump in machine and add the following: one fifth of vodka, two measures of laundry detergent, and a rosary. Set on gentle cycle. When it's done, remove and dry between sheets of newspaper. Serve in small portions across the next twenty-five years. = = = = = This reminds me of the other day. I went to the post office to mail a package. As I was at the one open counter, I noticed a bank envelope by my right hand as I stood there. Peeking out from the envelope was the slightest flash of dark green. I picked up the envelope. In it were fifty twenty dollars bills - $1,000. There was no one else there except the clerk, and fifty people waiting in line behind me. Did I take the money? Did I leave it? Did I report it? Did I regret it? What do you think? Now you're wondering, why would you put vodka in the laundry machine? To remove the traces of cocaine from the bills. And why would you put in the rosary? Because you'll want it to be clean for when you get to prison. |
Juju2bigdog | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 12:16 pm  case popped open, contents in plain view does not change scenario for Juju. |
Merlin | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 01:49 pm  If I witnessed someone tossing a briefcase out of a car that is being pursued by the police, absolutely would result in my looking/opening the briefcase. The curiosity would be too great. As far as keeping anything found in it, the cash would be the temptation. Some things that would make me hesitate from keeping it are : 1. the people who ditched it probably will remember where they tossed it and send someone to retrieve it. 2. that would leave my friend that I was visiting in a bad position if I just split and didn't say anything. 3. I would expect enough *pressure* could be put on my friend to reveal who was present when the briefcase was tossed. Bottom line is that *I don't think* I would keep anything and I would report it to the police. Reality is, I don't know what would happen until I was in that position. |
Misslibra | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 02:14 pm  I would call police, and tell them what I found. Then they would come and get it ... end of story.  |
Azriel | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 03:12 pm  Guru, you say those that say they wouldn't touch the case are copping out? I wouldn't touch it and believe me I NEED the money. It's evidence that could convict some sleezebags who have committed a crime. My dad is a retired homicide detective. I have a lot of respect for police officers and I'd try to do what I could to help them do their job. That's no cop out. That's plain fact. |
Juju2bigdog | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 07:38 pm  very nice entry, by the way, Ocean. You are giving us something to shoot for.
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Guruchaz | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 07:52 pm  My ESP would kick in and I would know what was in the case before it hit the ground. Then, my ability to predict the future would tell me to take half the money. uh huh huh  |
Elitist | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 08:03 pm  So this is a question on ethics, right? So there are two thoughts on this - one is there is a hard ethical code that should not be violated, no matter what. Then there are situational ethics which says it really depends on what the circumstances are whether something is right or wrong. So some say (for instance) eating human flesh is wrong no matter what, whereas a believer in situational ethics would say there may be reasons such that eating human flesh are correct - say if you were the Donner party and starving to death, or stuck in a lifeboat at sea. So the question really asks us two things - do you believe in hard or situational ethics, and would you live up to your ethics in a situation that would benefit you greatly. So for me I would do the following: Grab the briefcase, make a fast getaway in my car. At the first bridge I came to, toss the gun. The first homeless person I found, give the money away. To the first prostitute I found, give the cocaine. Then I would keep the briefcase, cause a good briefcase will always come in handy. And I apologize if I offended any homeless, prostitutes, or bridges. |
Ocean_Islands | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 08:16 pm  Get your butt in chat Elite |
Elitist | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 08:24 pm  Working on it but didn't have mIRC on my home machine. How big is that file, anyway? |
Guruchaz | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 09:15 pm  I found a penny. Can I keep it or do I need to call the authorities? |
Elitist | Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 07:30 am  It depends Guru - was there a gun and a pound of cocaine nearby? |
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