No Game 3---Petition
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No Game 3---Petition
Kearie | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 02:59 pm  It is obvious that some people at the TVCH can't play fair. It is obvious, from both Game 1 and Game II that the members of the club that this game gets too real and people get hurt. The Game Players take the game seriously...to win or to share about themselves. We spectators get into battles with other spectators. The game makes everyone suffer! We didn't learn from the first game, and Game II just reinforced that playhing this Game is not a good idea for the sight. Neil and Lisa deserve more than what we members are giving them. They work hard on this sight and don't need the grief this game causes. I think some of the posters forget that real people are on the other side of the computer. Responses like "tough sh*t" and "stop whining" are immature and show little respect for others on this board. Since we can't play nice...I say we agree to have no more Games. There are bad apples on every message board. The Game just allows the bad ones to shine. Mean people suck. Cheaters suck. The Game sucks. Misrepresentation sucks. Thank goodness... ...Neil rocks! and TVCH rocks! Oh, Lafatme asked me to add this.... "Come on people, can't we just play nice?" |
Lafatme | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 04:26 pm  thanks for posting my message kearie. i got way too emotional in game one so have chosen to keep game two at a distance as much as possible. from this perspective it has seemed a bit harsh. what's going on? why is everyone so upset over a game? step back a bit and tell yourselves "it's a game" and relax a bit. there's no need for people to be hurt by it or for others to attack. it's not real! i know it feels real to the players and i admire them for playing, but there's no need for cheating or editorializing in the RR. just "let" it happen, don't "make" it happen. if a game isn't fun what's the point? |
Twiggyish | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 04:29 pm  ((HUGS)) Kearie! |
Kearie | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 04:30 pm  Oops...I forgot to add, that Admins of anything also have to shoulder responsibility. If problems are perceived by observers or participants...Admins are responsible to give an objection explanation. "Responses like "tough sh*t" and "stop whining" are immature and show little respect for others on this board." and show NO administrative qualiities. TVCH is better than this, isn't it? They are responsible for screw ups---yet at the same time, they get to take credit for a job well done...is such is the case. This isn't a petition to sign or anything...just my biased opinion which I hope some people will agree with and say having a Game III just isn't worth the damage it can do. |
Moondance | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 04:31 pm  Thanks KK... nice post once again!!! |
Kearie | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 04:36 pm  I hate that Laffy..."It's just a game"!!! Life is just a game. climbing the coorporate ladder is a game. When we die we can't take anything with us. Who cares who wins. What matters is how a person feels while they are alive. Accepted, loved, cared for, important. Anything that involves real emotions should not be minimized, because in the end...all we have is ourselves, our lives and our experiences. |
Lafatme | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 04:39 pm  okay honey, you're right again. i have been corrected.
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Digilady | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 04:42 pm  Kearie: You're right. I apologise for the tone and wording of my last post. I have worked myself near to death, and I blew my stack. Moderators should never do such: You ALL have my apology. |
Kearie | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 04:48 pm  Thanks Digi---- (((Hugs)) Your hard work is appreciated very much. If I'm correct...I recall another Admin of a similar Game losing his cool a time or two also. hehehe Thanks again Digi...and from me, it is accepted. |
Misslibra | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 05:34 pm  {{{{{Kearie}}}}} {{{{{Digi}}}}} |
Kearie | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 07:10 pm  Hi MissL and hugs to you also. |
Soeur | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 07:12 pm  So, we can all agree to begin assembling our team for Game #3?  |
Tukuul | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 07:32 am  I wasn't in Game I long enough to have a major connection with anyone (sorry but it's true), but I can tell a lot more is happening in Game II just by watching it happen. Why people are getting so uptight out here is beyond me. I can't see future Games being anything but a good thing for the people involved inside. |
Hostess1 | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 09:19 am  Announcement Hampster out of cage tonight at 6PM board time! Please make Azriel welcome. She has 10 minutes only |
Lancecrossfire | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 10:05 am  Kearie, thanks for sharing your views. I think that it's great that we can look at a topic and see it from many different angles. It is what helps to make this place so great. I'm more in line with Tukuul about future games being good for those in the game. Kearie has provided 4 different groupings that she feels suck. I'll go along with all but one of them. I don't think the game sucks at all. It's a game--it just sits there, waiting for us to do something with it. The game can't make us do anything, say anything or react a certain way--those are all about us. There are two different games as it were--just like BB. The actual game, and the "game" created by the watchers watching the game (that was brought up a few times in the BB days). The games are shielded from the watcher game (or at least were in game one because of the lessened contact. I think they are somewhat shielded from it in this game, although not entirely so. One thing that both games have shown us--we get passionate about the Game. We being collectively as a group. If we weren't passionate about it, there would be no controversy, no strong feelings/emotions from the gamers (just ask Guru or Az about that from Game II). I can't imagine what it must be like to proctor the Game, as every action will change the course of the gmae from that point on--and there are endless ways to conduct the game. Chat, no chat, limited chat, unlimited chat, ways to hold voting and banishment, banners being chosen and sent, discussion/puzzle ratio, group or individual challenges--the list is long. And everyone has their opinions about what would be best for each--and these opinions are as varied as the members of TVCH. With many of us not being afraid to share those opinions, I can't imagine what a proctor must see in a day from all of us. Maybe Digi will share what that is, maybe she won't. If she does, I'm thinking I'm going to be surprised at what she was hit with by all of us. I say that not in a bad way either--just what she must get in terms of suggestions, reasonings, etc. I'm wondering if it ends up being a job you just can't win at doing. Of course that may be influenced by how you look at what a "win" is to the proctor. I look forward to there being a Game III. If we keep making the same mistakes (notice I said if) then it's us not learning from hitroy--something that has happened a lot over time. The game doesn't cause us to make the same mistakes. (all of this is just MHO, and does not reflect what anyone may or may not feel) |
Wink | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 10:45 am  Lance couldn't agree with you more re "One thing that both Games have shown us - we get passionate about the Game." I also think we are passionate about fair play and the fact that there are valuable prizes available to the winners makes us all accountable to learn from history. |
Digilady | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 10:49 am  Agreed Lance. Not the time for a response... gimme a week or so. About those valuable prizes, as you said Wink, it's been my intention all along that honesty and fairness wins those prizes. Especially in view of the company donating #1 and #2. |
Wink | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 11:03 am  Yup. The cream will rise to the top. |
Rollerboy | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 11:38 am  Well said Lance. I think Kearie has forgotten that we (as individuals) are all responsible for our own feelings. No one makes me mad, I allow myself to feel anger. They call it "self-control" or the lack thereof. |
Lancecrossfire | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 11:44 am  Oh, she did make two points I neglected to address that I agreed with...Neil and TVCH rocks. It isn't so much what we are given as it is what we do with it. (IMHO) |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 11:04 am  This has, indeed, been one knock-down, drag-out, moth-eaten, words-in-your-mouth-putting juice-up electric kool-aid acid test and warm your buns on the stovepipe after-burner kinda game. Yagottalovit. Viva Las Game! |
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