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Wink | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 11:34 am  Lance I'm not going to defend Spam until she gives me a "valid" reason to and I fear that will never happen. You chose to bring up the banner thing (and didn't we already have a go around with banners over Merlin?) in my mind as a shot at Spam. I agree she didn't tell Elitist that others hate him, however, he said "Yeah if there is really a hate Spam/elite faction we will know." The banner was to "let him know" that one did not exist. And I totally agree with Moon on this one. Her comments in that last oneonone were totally outrageous and vile. And I would have expected a comment from you about that before you get your back up about a banner. Perhaps you have said something to address what Spam said about Moon in another thread, but I haven't caught up today, so if you have fine but if not, get busy. |
Norwican | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 11:43 am  The difference as I see it Lance is that Guru, Spam, and New were in there together and could defend themselves whereas Moon is out here... so it was completely unfair. I am also not one to run to anyone's defense... just not my style. I happen to feel very capable of defending myself as I feel most people on this board are. However, if I feel something is very unjust... I will normally add my 2 cents. I do not take sides based on the people involved... I base it on the issue at hand. I am sure Moon would concur that her and I have not agreed on some things... but in my opinion we have disagreed in a civilized manner. Spam totally showed her a$$ yesterday as I wrote in my banner and once you've showed your a$$ to that exent, it is impossible to cover "it" which is probably why she vanished. I am not into flaming, bashing or as you put it "jumping" anyone and I don't feel I did. I called it as I saw it... and I don't think even Spam would deny that. And yes, of course Spam has some good points. |
Moondance | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 11:57 am  No we haven't always agreed Nor but you seem to always make me laugh when I need to! Thanks for the last post I always try hard to state my point but it seems Wink and now you have done it like I wish I would have |
Wink | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 12:11 pm  Well Lance I went and caught up on posts I was missing and I don't see any comment from you in either "How do you make your voting decisions" or "These chat logs are great" where the discussions were going on about the things Spam said about Moon in that oneonone with Elitist. Now perhaps you've been busy and haven't had time to get to those but I still do not understand how you could have read that oneonone and not had a comment to make about Spam's behaviour and the absolutely horrid things she said about Moon. As for being negative about Spam Guru made two good points in his RR this morning. "Im not sure if she's able to learn from this experience let alone any experience that puts her in a bad light." And "If she doesn't care how she comes across then why should she expect perfect understanding from others?. Why should she expect graciousness?" The difference between Spam and Guru is that Guru TAKES as good as he GIVES. Spam only GIVES, and then asks everyone to overlook it or forgive because she's playing a game. |
Resortgirl | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 12:48 pm  I can't seem to find the oneonone that everyone is talking about in here. Could anyone direct me? Nobody had better said anything mean to my bud, Moon. Or I'll have to kick some A$$....  |
Tukuul | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 12:57 pm  There is a oneonone (actually an impromptu 8 on 8) in the regular chat logs. I'm a bit lost on that particular subject myself. So much to filter through. |
Dilligaf | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:04 pm  Well, not that Moon wants to read this again, but here is Spam's convo with Elitist. It was atrocious. Monday, January 29, 2001 - 11:33 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One-On-One - Monday, January 29 11:40 am - 11:50 am Elitist & Spam - Spam gives advice <spamgirl> and if I were you, i'd clear the air with OI <Elitist> ah fear it is good - makes you a killing machine <spamgirl> i dunno elit... 'cuz they're watching you <Elitist> i agree about OI <spamgirl> even if you still think he's a ••••••••, just pretend you don't <spamgirl> pull a guru <spamgirl> because moon seems to be big out there, with her memoires and everything <spamgirl> kiss ass, elit ;) <Elitist> yeah, but that was the whole point in the first place <spamgirl> i know elit <spamgirl> but it's not good to piss off moon <spamgirl> she seems to want to control everything here... she IS a part of this game, you know <Elitist> LOL <spamgirl> oh gee, sorry moon <spamgirl> didn't mean to offend you <Elitist> brb <spamgirl> did you read digi's post out there about moon trying to leave or something? digi said "please come back to the game, moon"... and they ••••• at me for coming back <Elitist> i read that *** Leap has joined #oneonone <Elitist> I think <spamgirl> nod <spamgirl> pretty sad <spamgirl> they ••••• at me, but I bet NO ONE said anything to her <Elitist> your mean, spam. You know I can't say anything <spamgirl> grin <spamgirl> i'm saying it all for you <spamgirl> she's such a sob story, that moondance <spamgirl> "boo hoo hoo elitist said something that i construed as mean so he's a bad boy" <spamgirl> "and because i was a moron and took it as being mean i get to attack him" <spamgirl> "boo hoo hoo" <Elitist> LOL - the problem was I got in here and took it to the limit <spamgirl> "and then spamgirl said that i was a moron BOO HOO HOO i can't take criticism BOO HOO HOO" <Elitist> well maybe not the limit <spamgirl> not the limit <Elitist> and it was part of the Game, anyway <Elitist> didn't realize OI would take it so personally <spamgirl> i think what you said about her was true, anyways... she IS self absorbed... reposting horoscopes she didn't write... reposting quizzes... she doesn't even do her oh-so-wonderful charts by hand <spamgirl> it's a website... anyone could go there <Elitist> did I say that? <spamgirl> say what? <spamgirl> oh <Elitist> that she was self-absorbed <spamgirl> you said something, about her knowing about self love <spamgirl> and my point is she loves herself too much <Elitist> Oh that - LOL <spamgirl> i mean, really <spamgirl> posting pictures that are like 20 years old <spamgirl> saying how she knows everything about diet becuase she's a nutritionist <spamgirl> please <spamgirl> she's so full of herself <Elitist> well gotta go - phone <Elitist> later <spamgirl> ok elit <spamgirl> bye ;) <spamgirl> (this chat in no way reflections the opinions of Elitist) <spamgirl> reflects <spamgirl> let me try that again <spamgirl> (this chat in no way reflects the opinions of Elitist) *** Elitist has quit IRC (Quit: Bye Bye for now freakazoids) *** spamgirl has quit IRC (Quit: Catch me on the outside, AZ, EL, have fun in the game) |
Dilligaf | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:05 pm  Resortgirl.....kick away!! I'm right behind you. |
Wink | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:14 pm  And bring a barf bag with you Rgirl. This stuff is absolutely sickening. |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:16 pm  First, my comments about the flavor of things is a general one, not related to any one or two people. So, it wasn't directed at any one person. I also said she does things wrong, and I've said so before. So, my answer to what I consider her doing can be found in previous posts, to answer that question (as well as saying I'd be making a summary of the whole thing--both good and bad).(I'd like to sit in quiet time to do so, and make it a god post about the whole experience--it isn't quiet time right now) My reason for bringing Guru up was because you asked me why I didn't address one thing and not another. My point in what I said was to indicate that happens all over the board by all sorts of people. If you want to call me on it, call out everyone else as well. I brought up the banner thing because I didn't know if it was meant to be serious or not, and said so in the original post I even asked--I never claimed I knew it was a shot at her. I said I didn't know, and that the whole thing may have gone over my head. And I agree with Guru's evaluation. She may not be able to. Although maybe she will someday. Some folks never thought Guru would get to the point he's at now either, yet he's there. It's possible Spam will, and it's possible she won't. His RR was done after my message, btw. I never said Spam's comments weren't mean or anything else. I only spoke of her comments dealing with the banner, since that is what I originally posted about, and also said that he has brought up valid questions/points before. Those are two separate issues. I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to not bring up two different things at the same time. The posts I made were at the very beginning of the game and weren't in either of the two threads--so that doesn't mean I didn't make them. True that Moon can't defend herself in there with Spam, and none of the players (Spam or any others) can defend themselves about what we say. And Guru has shown his a$$ every bit as much as Spam has in the past (more actually). I have no issue with pointing that out--where did I say that I did have an issue????? (the question I raised was about only 1 banner) The only thing I posted about in that banner message was that I said the banner wasn't accurate. I also said it may have been a joke. I covered every possibility and said I didn't know which was being used. I also provided information that showed me saying she never said that had accurate basis, just in case it was meant. And guru hasn't always taken as good as he gives. He has both lashed out and ignored those how have given to him. I have first hand knowledge of that one--and he is asking to be forgiven. Ok, so, when I wrote the post about the banner, I asked if it was a joke--and I said it all could have gone right over my head. Then I said IF it was believed to be true, here is what I think, and included proof right then and there of what I was talking about. Can someone tell me why it's not ok to ask if something is a joke or not, and provide information that IF it's not a joke what the accurate information is???? From my 12:24 post: "Ok, I could have had everything fly right over my head." "Maybe the banner was a joke? I don't know." What is wrong with this??? |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:20 pm  Ok, folks, where did I say what Spam had to say to Moon was ok??? I NEVER said Spam was being appropriate in her approach to talking about Moon or anyone else when she attacked. |
Norwican | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:20 pm  Lance, although you are really good at analyzing things... I think that a god post is even beyond your reach  |
Wink | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:27 pm  Okay Lance let's go around this again. I understand fully your point about the banner and what you have said about GuGu doll. What you haven't answered is why you have had no comment on the specific comments she directed at and about Moon. As a friend of hers I assume you would have some opinion on such horrid things being said about Moon and since the Elite/Spam faction comment (which led you to raise a question about the banner) was contained in the same oneonone log as the attack on Moon I assume you have read that log. So why no comment about Spam's rantings about Moon? I find that very odd. |
Resortgirl | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:27 pm  Wow! That bites! She is soooooo jealous of you Moon! Now I agree with her decision to lay low. She is in TROUBLE!!!! Moon, you are the reason I came out from lurking and I feel that I have found a special friend in you. Please don't let anything spam has said or may say ever get you down. Consider the source! |
Wink | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:30 pm  Lance you also didn't say it wasn't okay specifically related to those particular comments. Nor might I add did you ever come to my defense when I raised the question about Spam reading threads to get her info to direct her mud slinging at me. If I am wrong please correct me. |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:32 pm  My inaccuracy--a good post. Seems a few here believe either is beyond my reach. Thanks Nor, for pointing that out--my spell checker did miss it, since that is a correctly spelled word. (and yes, Nor, I know YOU were kidding me)(oops, that is an assumption though) I want to say for the record that I would not presume to post the way any deity--minor or major--could post. |
Norwican | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:35 pm  Wink - what is your question to me? |
Wink | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:37 pm  Sorry Nor . I was using the word "nor" to begin a sentence not referring to you. LOL |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:40 pm  Wink, I didn't come to anyone's defense about HOW anything was said by anyone.(including Spam, you, Moon, Guru...anyone). I just commented on accuracy of statement about who hates Elitist, and that she's had a couple of valid points) HOW you say something and WHAT it said are 2 different things. I was addressing the WHAT in my banner message, AND said I didn't even know if the banner was a joke or not. Why is everyone saying I am saying it's ok that Spam speaks HOW she does about people?? Where did I say that? |
Bamagirl | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:40 pm  Stopped in and do not mean to make light of anything here...but that tickled me!!! Nor hehehe |
Norwican | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:42 pm  Gotcha Wink. Lance, you are safe in assuming that I'm kidding when I use the  |
Resortgirl | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:44 pm  It's weird that Spam's "toxic" personality is affecting this board even when she is no where to be found. I hope we can all get it out of our systems and go on from there. |
Tukuul | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:47 pm  I disagree Lance. Yes, Gu and Spam have both shown their a$$ in one form or another, but which one of them chooses to run away from that fact? Spam knows how she's acting and can't own up to it as hinted by her repetitive disappearances and "jeckyl" masks in chat. She knew her comments about Moon would be recorded for all to read (hinted by her little disclaimer at the end). Also, if you actually want to have a conversation with Gu when he gets out then I would suggest you think a little more before you post some of the things you say out here. He may continue to not give you the time of day. Just an observation. |
Wink | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 01:47 pm  Okay Lance short and sweet. Why have you made no "specific" comment about the "specific" things Spam said about Moon in this "specific" oneonone. As her friend I assumed that you would be more interested in speaking about the "accuracy" of that than the "accuracy" of the bleeping banner!! |
Willi | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 03:14 pm  Reading that #oneonone made me feel nausea. I know Moon can "handle herself" but I wanted her to know, as someone who cares about her, I was sorry to read it & it upset me. So, I let her know. <Flu has hit so I need to catch up on this board> |
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