What is the player's problem?
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What is the player's problem?
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 05:52 pm  For people who have never been in the game, it's hard to understand. It actually is very hard to make connections. It seems ridiculous, but its true. I actually never had a conversation with Merlin, which I regret. He seems like a very interesting person. Here's a quote from his latest post, with which I can relate very much: "I had hoped that I would be able to make a personal contact with more of the players than I have. I realize now, that was unrealistic to think that I could make a personal contact with all of them. ... If all of us had been on the board for 12 hours a day at the same time, I can see where it would have been more likely to have happened. With different schedules . . . it limited the time one could get someone into a conversation. . . . I realized something that occurs in real life for me also happened in here. In real life if I meet up with someone whose mind is occupied with some issue that I am not sure I should get into, I generally limit what I say to some very neutral subject. The player that stands out in this category for me is Ocean_Islands. Understand that I am saying this is my assessment of Ocean and it may not be factual. I found that I limited what I would attempt and that is something I regret. I also realize now that I had more focus on the players that I had no previous outside contact with, or I should say very limited contact. This was Azriel, Juju, MissLibra, NewAmMush, and Guru. I found that by previous Tvclubchat with Elit and Spam gave me an idea of who they were and I had more of my focus on the ones I didn't know. " For whatever reason, this seems like an intelligent person willing to face his shortcomings. |
Tukuul | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 05:59 pm  What problem do you have with it? Too accurate? |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 06:01 pm  I'm starting to think you have the same bug up your ass that Guru does. That is, when you're happy, the world is great. When you're unhappy, sheesh does that bug itch! Only someone like that could turn a compliment into an insult. |
Kady99 | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 06:24 pm  Ocean, I see what you mean about making connections. Since you were in the Eastern Time Zone, chat was late for you. Chat starts for me at 9:30 which by the time it is over it is late to me since I have to get up early. I would propose if there is a game 3, chat times should be at varied times and limited to 1 hour. Also I agree that some topic should be discussed during chat. Sometimes an open chat would be fun but not all the time. |
Spamgirl | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 07:39 pm  Well, OI... you didn't want to make a connection with me anyways... because if you want people to listen to YOU, you would have to distance yourself from ME anyways |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 07:47 pm  Oh yea? Is that why I invited you to do the first One on One of all? I don't care who listens, get real. I care about expressing myself, haven't you gotten a clue about that yet? That's why I lost the game. |
Spamgirl | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 07:50 pm  Well, that's a direct quote from you, OI. "if you want people to listen to YOU, distance yourself from (Spamgirl). it does you no good." So it's obviously your opinion, right? Well, OI... you sure as hell express yourself. |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 08:01 pm  Yes, that is my opinion, for Misha's well being. I of course was idiotic to think that Misha had a mind of her own! Little did I know she'd paste and copy you on our private conversation of only 60 minutes ago! How stupid of me! I do believe that if anyone wants to be taken seriously, they should stand on their own two feet. Would you wish anything different for her? Or do you always want to control her mind? That's why I had a hard time respecting Flint when he was in your shadow. For all I know, you're hiding behind another alias again. |
Spamgirl | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 08:03 pm  She isn't controlled by me... and I honestly have no idea what facts you might have to support that. Neither is Flint. Bring me some facts and MAYBE I'll buy your story. Otherwise, keep it to yourself... because it's old, and it's boring. I think the issue is that when *I* was speaking my own mind, you were the one twisting my words. If I see something, I'm going to call you on it, no matter who your BS is being focused at. Oh, and prove I've ever hid behind an alias. Again, you spewing assumptions... making an ass out of yourself. |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 08:08 pm  Don't get me started on that Sgirl. The saddest part of this whole thing is that these Thursday night banishment histrionics are going to convince Elitist that you have been defending him all along. When you haven't been around since I was banished last week. Oh yes, I know. A momentary appearance in post-midnight chat doesn't count. |
Spamgirl | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 08:14 pm  Actually, I haven't been in chat because, good god, I have other things to do... I've been on the board, but not constantly because, again, I have other things to do... My support for Elitist is personal, and doesn't have to be posted here for all the groupies to read for it to be proven. My working instead of posting doesn't prove that I didn't support him. Besides, no point in posting words that fall on deaf, biased (or affected by bias) ears. |
Lancecrossfire | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 12:53 am  Ocean, hope you don't mind if I set into your discussion with Spam for a minute to give some input to your thoughts in the post you used to start the thread. I can see that you meant it as a compliment to Merlin for being able to put his finger on the connection issue. There is one part that I see as being just a little bit different from what Merlin said. I think that it's possible for a connection to happen easily. I think it did in the case of Guru and Merlin, and possibly in a couple 3 cases is game I. I can only speak for myself on the ones that came easier than the rest. I'll let other players from either game giver their thoughts on what Merlin has said. I also agree that it's a sped up version of how it would happen in real life. That may account for some of the difficulties--there isn't much time to make adjustments, try over, or completely regroup and take a new approach. Yet if one happens, it's this rush that hits fast and hard--well, from my experiences that is what happened. I also believe sharing your short comings also increases the chance of making a connection. It's usually a sign that you've let your guard down in some respect. That you are stating things about yourself that show you are willing to take a risk with someone else. I think it can allow for a couple things. First, since most of us have short comings, it's one way to be able to relate to someone with a similar trait. It can also draw in someone how's had experience with that trait. And finally, it can just be telling someone those guards are down and they see that as a welcome mat to interactions. Well, those are my thoughts on it. My thoughts and my opinions only--not anyone else's for those who may have a concern of such issues. Anyway Ocean for your consideration, since you posted about it--and the consideration of anyone else that wants to consider it. |
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