Archive through January 15, 2001

The ClubHouse: The Game II - Mysterious Puzzler: Discussions/Challenges: Challenges: Challenge #1: Archive through January 15, 2001

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 09:56 am Click here to edit this post

Juju...I checked. Kenya is in E. africa.

Does anyone think the laws of Africa or Gibraltar might have something to do with it?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 09:57 am Click here to edit this post

Kenya IS in east africa

Note: I've made an enlarged copy of the letter from Audie and it's available at http://www.spamgirl.com/gameii/challenge1/drown2.gif

Juju2bigdog

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 09:58 am Click here to edit this post

as to chatting, I think it will quickly get bogged down if all ten of us try to decide on something in chat, particularly if it is at New and my bedtimes. I like the idea of getting some preliminary questions mapped out and answered before chat. ten questions might be too many, but let's keep going for a while today and see how many good ones we come up with in the next few hours. we might have some of the other players weigh in by then.

Like, where is cammie?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 09:59 am Click here to edit this post

Another thing -

Even though WE didn't see the signature, Christine did (on form 22A or whatever)... maybe it looked like Irene's?

Juju2bigdog

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:00 am Click here to edit this post

and, in case y'all can't tell, we have made a LOT of progress so far.

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:00 am Click here to edit this post

New - I think the laws is going a bit deep :) Maybe we should keep that in mind, but I don't think we should have to do research for the answer :)

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:01 am Click here to edit this post

Nod ju...

OK, i'm going to back through everything... and file it and post it... just so we have a progress check

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:02 am Click here to edit this post

Audrey says in her letter "Ernie is the usually the one to do this." Why isn't he doing it now? Could Ernie be dead already? Might be way too soon.

Juju2bigdog

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:05 am Click here to edit this post

thanks for enlargement, spam, it is great. didn't inspire me to any great thoughts, however.

Elit - you are saying both gibralters are spelled the same? gibralter (in Ireland) and gibraltar (near Spain)? I would have said "ar" for the one off spain. but I'm not even real sure her letter spells it gibralter. May be too fine a nit.

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:11 am Click here to edit this post

- Nicknames: Irene/Reenee, Audrey/Audie
- Handwriting is all different
- Sister took 7 months to ask for money
- How did sister know where to ask for money? (possibly answered by: Audrey told her)
- Buckle is anagrammed to Clubek
- Is the crossed out "beneficiaries" a Freudian slip?
- At first Audrey forgot to put a beneficiary if she and Ernie died together - maybe another Freudian slip?
- Timeline
...25-Sep sent letter requesting addition to policy
...1-Oct got reply asking for signature
...12-Oct reply from audrey
...15-Oct changes effective
...12-Nov confirmation
...25-Jul ernie dead
...29-Jul death told to company
...18-Mar letter to company from irene
...31-Mar new address effective
...2-Apr complaint lodged
- Audreys body wasn't found (i.e. she ain't dead)
- Did Ernie really request the additional insurance or did his wife claim it was him? The insurance company was doing their communications with him, but It seems the wife was the one doing all the communicating with the company on her own
- Gibralter is in Ireland and Kenya is in East Africa
- Even though WE didn't see the signature, Christine did (on form 22A or whatever)... maybe it looked like Irene's?

- Maybe rules/laws in Gibralter or Kenya matter?

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:12 am Click here to edit this post

Oh wait one minute. Irene is an anagram for Ernie

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:14 am Click here to edit this post

We also have to keep in mind that the title is "The Case of the Buckle File." Seems to mean that the answer is in the file.

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:14 am Click here to edit this post

The one off spain is GibraltAr

The one in ireland is GibraltEr

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:16 am Click here to edit this post

Spam, aren't you Canadian? Does all those Canadian addresses and such make sense?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:17 am Click here to edit this post

NEW!!!! You're an anagram genius TOO

Irene Clubek
Ernie Buckle

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:18 am Click here to edit this post

I think that's the answer!! But i'm not always right :)

What do you all think?

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:19 am Click here to edit this post

But what does this prove? Are we sure the body found was Ernie. Would explain the beneficiaries/beneficiary query. Could they be in it together?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:23 am Click here to edit this post

I think, and this is just my opinion, she needed a name quick... so she anagrammed his... makes it easy to remember

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:26 am Click here to edit this post

So here are a few ideas for questions:

Is the answer in the file?

Is Christine Cooper curious about the anagram name?

Does it have to do with Audrey Buckles body missing?

Juju2bigdog

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:31 am Click here to edit this post

spam, change sister to cousin.

good going, New, on ernie anagram.

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:33 am Click here to edit this post

Yes, the answer is in the file... the file are the letters that were provided...

I like question #2

Can we assume that the missing body is sort of the "dead giveaway" that she ain't dead??

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:34 am Click here to edit this post

Nicknames: Irene/Reenee, Audrey/Audie
Handwriting is all different
Cousin took 7 months to ask for money
How did cousin know where to ask for money? (possibly answered by: Audrey told her)
Ernie Buckle is anagrammed to Irene Clubek
Is the crossed out "beneficiaries" a Freudian slip?
At first Audrey forgot to put a beneficiary if she and Ernie died together - maybe another Freudian slip?
Timeline
25-Sep sent letter requesting addition to policy
1-Oct got reply asking for signature
12-Oct reply from audrey
15-Oct changes effective
12-Nov confirmation
25-Jul ernie dead
29-Jul death told to company
18-Mar letter to company from irene
31-Mar new address effective
2-Apr complaint lodged
Audreys body wasn't found (i.e. she ain't dead)
Did Ernie really request the additional insurance or did his wife claim it was him? The insurance company was doing their communications with him, but It seems the wife was the one doing all the communicating with the company on her own
Gibralter is in Ireland and Kenya is in East Africa
Even though WE didn't see the signature, Christine did (on form 22A or whatever)... maybe it looked like Irene's?
The one off spain is GibraltAr, The one in ireland is GibraltEr

Maybe rules/laws in Gibralter or Kenya matter?

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:37 am Click here to edit this post

Maybe a question to narrow down which piece of correspondence hold the clue. Maybe:

Is the clue in a piece of correspondence from Irene (insert another name)?

Juju2bigdog

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:07 am Click here to edit this post

Just got back from lunch. Didn't realize spammie had already articulated this: I also think the anagram is the answer. The one item in the file that made Ms. cooper suspect fraud and a felony is that the name of the claimant Irene clubek is an anagram of the deceased ernie buckle.

How about that? If we get the answer without asking ANY questions.

Uh oh, gonna make digi paranoid her puzzles are too easy.

Okay, proposed question:

Is the item that raised Ms. Cooper's suspicions of fraud (false claim) and felony (murder of ernie buckle) the fact that the claimant's name, Irene Clubek is an anagram of the name of the deceased, Ernie Buckle?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:12 am Click here to edit this post

You've got my vote, Ju