Archive through January 15, 2001

The ClubHouse: The Game II - Mysterious Puzzler: Discussions/Challenges: Challenges: Challenge #1: Archive through January 15, 2001

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:18 am Click here to edit this post

Might as well post it, but maybe word it such that if it isn't the direct item, that it has something to do with it. Such as:

Is the fact that the claimant's name, Irene Clubek is an anagram of the name of the deceased, Ernie Buckle any way related to the item that raised Ms. Cooper's suspicions of fraud (false claim) and felony (murder of ernie buckle)

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:20 am Click here to edit this post

Elit, you gotta go post it in the questions thread...

Here

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:22 am Click here to edit this post

Are we agreed to post it? And I think Juju or New should have the honor - since they got the anagrams.

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:23 am Click here to edit this post

Nod - Ju, New, one of ya post it :)

I think it's a good start... and we can't wait for everyone to get home

that leaves us with 14 more questions anyways :)

BUT we are a group

I'm not going to say :)

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:25 am Click here to edit this post

Do we want to do it without talking to everyone else?

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:26 am Click here to edit this post

Yes - there are at least 4 of us here, it is a good question, and we have 14 left.

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:26 am Click here to edit this post

Should I use question as you wrote it Elite?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:27 am Click here to edit this post

I'm scared (biting nails) ;)

Well, let's see...

Votes yes: Juju, New, Elit, Spamgirl
Aren't here for sure: Guru (out with Fiancee), ML (out until 5pm), OI (??)
Are here but haven't answered: CAMMIE, Azriel (should be here momentarily?!?)

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:29 am Click here to edit this post

Send it as I wrote it - I think it has the best chance to give us info if we are incorrect.

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:32 am Click here to edit this post

It's posted

Congratulations on our first semi-group decision

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:32 am Click here to edit this post

NO WAIT! Don't send it yet Newa!

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:41 am Click here to edit this post

Well there goes that theory. Back to the drawing board.

Next set of questions?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:45 am Click here to edit this post

OMG no... insane

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:48 am Click here to edit this post

I think our solution was too complicated - why would someone be looking for anagrams like that? We have to look for something simpler, some way the crook slipped up in what they wrote or what they knew. Still think the Gibralter thing is a possibility.

Juju2bigdog

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:49 am Click here to edit this post

Whoa!!!! blow me down. I was sure that was it. back to the drawing board.

and now the dang spouse is wanting on the computer to check a recipe!!!! thinking about food at an important time like this. can you believe it?

Juju2baffleddog

Juju2bigdog

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:53 am Click here to edit this post

back to spam's chart. can you post it again, spam?

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:10 pm Click here to edit this post

Notes:
- Handwriting is all different
- How did cousin know where to ask for money? (possibly answered by: Audrey told her)
- Timeline
…25-Sep-92 sent letter requesting addition to policy
…1-Oct-92 got reply asking for signature
…12-Oct-92 reply from audrey
…15-Oct-92 changes effective
…12-Nov-92 confirmation
…25-Jul-93 ernie dead
…29-Jul-93 death told to company
…18-Mar-94 letter to company from irene
…31-Mar-94 new address effective
…2-Apr-94 complaint lodged
- Gibralter is in Ireland and Kenya is in East Africa
- The one off spain is GibraltAr, The one in ireland is GibraltEr

Things in RED have been answered no, BLUE answered yes

- Is the fact that Audrey refers to nicknames for both herself and her cousin (Irene/Reenee, Audrey/Audie) important?
- Is the fact that the cousin took 7 months to ask for money important?
- Does Ernie Buckle is anagrammed to Irene Clubek mean anything?
- Is the crossed out "beneficiaries" important? (i.e. a Freudian slip?)
- Does it have anything to do with Audrey and Ernie not filling out the 22A form properly in the first place? (At first Audrey forgot to put a beneficiary if she and Ernie died together - maybe another Freudian slip?)
- Is the fact that Audrey's body wasn't found important? (i.e. she ain't dead)
- Did Ernie really request the additional insurance or did his wife claim it was him? (The insurance company was doing their communications with him, but It seems the wife was the one doing all the communicating with the company on her own)
- Does it have anything to do with Irene's signature? (Even though WE didn't see the signature, Christine did (on form 22A or whatever)... maybe it looked like Irene's?)
- Do the rules/laws in Gibralter or Kenya matter?

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:20 pm Click here to edit this post

I still think it has something to do with the fact that there is no notice telling "Irene Clubek" she was getting a claim.

Azriel

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:22 pm Click here to edit this post

I'm here going to the site to read it now

Spamgirl

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:33 pm Click here to edit this post

- Does it have to do with the fact that the cousin tried to claim the money even though she hadn't been contacted about it before?
- Does it have to do with the above BECAUSE IF SHE WAS REALLY IRENE SHE'D STILL HOLD THE HOPE THAT AUDREY MAY STILL BE ALIVE??

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:35 pm Click here to edit this post

That's kind of the direction I was going in. How did she know she was the beneficiary?

A question could be, Was Irene informed by the insurance company of a claim.

Elitist

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:48 pm Click here to edit this post

I think we should get the discrepancies out of the way:

Is the fact Audrey specified Renee as the benificiary and Irene is the one asking for benefits significant?

Is the fact that Audrey signed her name Audie significant?

Is the spelling of the word Gibralter significant? (sorry, had to throw my pet theory in).

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:50 pm Click here to edit this post

I don't think the first two would draw attention. They are both nicknames. Since her husband usually did all the "important" stuff, she would probably use nicknames for family.

The last one, I don't know. What could a mispelling of Gibralter mean tho?

Newamush

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:52 pm Click here to edit this post

A question could be:

Did Christine Cooper notice something about locations?

or along those lines

Azriel

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:52 pm Click here to edit this post

Okay on the letter from Christine Cooper authorizing the beneficiary it says Jack Hal for Christine Cooper

Is there something wrong there because Christine didn't acutally sign the authorization?