Positive & Negative about the GAME II

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We'd like to know the good, bad and ugly about Game II. As Hostess 1, I can provide all 3, but will wait for responses for others until I add one.

I ask Nos, Sis and Flint to wait as well.

As long as we're at it, we'd like suggestions for an abbreviated version of the GAME.

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Noslonna

Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 11:20 pm Click here to edit this post

The Good - The fun we had - the laughs, the friendships formed or cemented, the comradarie in GameDiscuss and on the board, getting to know people more and liking them anyway. It is always nice to find you like people even when you hear more about them.

More good stuff was some players finding connections and feeling closer to other members or players. Overall I think there was more goodwill than bad felt in the Game. I know I was not the only one that enjoyed it.

The Bad - Suspicions of cheating, gossip, innuendo and unfair biases. Dramatic theatrics resulting from things not going the way someone wanted. Hours and hours of time. (Not only the players experienced lack of sleep!)

The Ugly - Accusations, email bombing, frustration and hurt feelings. Emotional attacks, blackmail and lack of consideration for others top my list on the ugly side.

The Opinion The way the Game is played here is not always emotionally healthy for a lot of people because it is not played like a GAME. This was supposed to be fun. Just like the first game was supposed to be fun. (I think Game 2 was for the most part, thanks to Digi.)

However, when we engage real people's, real emotions, experiences and time in this kind of game it crosses the line from game to reality. I guess we did pattern it after a reality show... but if we want to have more games that involve us all then I think they need to be less a popularity contest based on personality and more a game contest based on stategy and skill.

I love a cut-throat game... RISK for one example. I hate losing and get right into any game I play. I have fun even when I get too competitive with my opponents and even when (horrors) I lose... but when the game ends I know it was just a GAME!

Maybe we need to do future Games in a different format, as Elitist suggested, that are less intense for players and viewers alike, maybe we need to think of a future game as less an "experience" and more as a Game.

Guruchaz

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 08:42 am Click here to edit this post

My thought is that people hate the feeling of being voted out based on who they really are. It's not very good for self-esteem.

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Ok, here's an idea. All the future Game participants will change their names and act completely differently than they do on the outside boards.

That way, the whole experience is one big game and nobody gets hurt because nobody is really being themselves. It's just one BIG GAME.

<ducks and runs>

Lancecrossfire

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 08:48 am Click here to edit this post

Hey, why not have it both ways? This board might be big enough for trying both (although not at the same time).

For those that want to have it based more on challenges and quizzes can sign up when that one is run, and the folks who want to go through what game's I and II are about can sign up when one of those are run.

Anyone see any problems with something like that?

Guruchaz

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 09:16 am Click here to edit this post

The best thing to do is throw out ideas on games and the procedures for running them and get a collective idea on what else we could do around here that would be less harmful to the atmosphere of the TVCH.

Of course, you won't be able to please eveyone and trying to do that will be a downfall.

Willi

Friday, February 23, 2001 - 10:29 am Click here to edit this post

For me personally, I would enjoy letting you all get to know me better. I would like to open up about who I am, what makes me tick, what I'm passionate about, etc...

Having said that, I don't want to do that based on others "voting me out." That in itself would hamper me personally from opening up. This is, of course, just me speaking about why I never would be in a Game that was run in that way. I just am not "up for that."

I give all you Game players a lot of credit for having done what I couldn't.

I would like to see more fun group games and interactions. Guru started a great thread on this in "General Discussions." I would much rather play with all of you than vote against you.

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 10:27 am Click here to edit this post

Hi all,

I am still here but just barely. Computer still in shop and library time scarce and have to use the time to make plans for Australia trip, so haven't been either reading or posting much. And Elitist, that may be the answer to your earlier musing about how Juju and MissLibra didn't seem to be much affected by the game. When I first got out, I purposely did not read most of the discussion threads, because I thought they might upset me. I stumbled across a few hurtful ones by mistake and pretty much stopped reading anything that predated my release.

I am not sure I have fully processed how I feel about the experience, except to say that I was awfully glad to get out of there when I did and start getting some sleep.

Whit4you

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 07:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Well - personally I miss game 1 as much as I miss big brother.... I laughed so hard sometimes during game I that my tummy hurt. I also got very very frustrated and very concerned at times. If I could have my wish, I'd wish for another Game I with the rules being absolutely NO rules and that would include cheating, bribes and so on (basically like game I accept that all going in would go in KNOWING that anything truely does go)

I think those who put game II together worked their buns off and as a lurker I appreciate that, the one-on-one chats between those on the inside were the best part for me personally. And thank you for going with the letting those on the outside vote on banners, I think that was important. I am waiting for the downloadable archive of Game II to catch up on the 60% of posts I missed, they are so easy to read off my own hd.

I say for game III put me and Vyking in - with a TRUE anything goes (short of LIVE physical violence) while I say anything goes - honestly I would like to see an agreement between the players in a game III to not talk to any of the other PLAYERS IN the game accept in the live chats. So game III would be similar to the Josh/ Brit thing where he had "outside" info but the others didnt.

With the exception of morals Vyk and I have alot in common, could be very intersting :)

I am dying for a Big Brother II - maybe we can start a petition?

Here's the only problem I had with game I and really had with Game II - all the chats those on the outside had in the Chat rooms - those of us lurking miss SOOOOO much of the game when you guys are chatting and working out all the issues in chat rooms. At lest have someone log and paste them or something....<sigh>

Whit

Digilady

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 09:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Whit..

There are mountains of chat logs! LOL

Wait till you download the archive. Every chat the players had was logged. TONS of it!

Guruchaz

Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 11:08 pm Click here to edit this post

Hi Whit! The chat logs are in this Discussion Area and are labelled. It's easy to miss, thinking it may be another topic or something, but they are there along with the Player Folders, Player Discussions, Quotes, and so forth.

I know a lot of outside onlookers didn't like the chats because it detracted from posting, but we got a lot accomplished through chat. Yes, one can organize thoughts better in a post, but you don't have time to do that in real life when you have a conversation with someone. I'm trying to picture someone standing in front of me organizing their thoughts for 15 minutes before they speak. It's a conversation, not a speech. Chat was more like a virtual face to face conversation.

Anyway, I'm sidetracking. You'll definitely have plenty to read. I'm really glad I was a part of Game II. It was more than I expected.

Elitist

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 07:35 am Click here to edit this post

I think Whit was speaking of the chat logs of #gamediscuss, not #groupchat or #oneonone.

Hey Whit - I would like to see those too. Well then again, maybe not.

Guruchaz

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 08:15 am Click here to edit this post

Oh definitely! Was #gamediscuss ever logged?

Norwican

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 08:24 am Click here to edit this post

Whit, very brave of you to disclose that you don't have morals .

Digilady

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 08:52 am Click here to edit this post

#gameDiscuss is indeed logged.

No one ever wanted to see it... and we'd have to get the OK from posters involved, as we told them #gameDiscuss would not be logged.

There is much private chat in there, IE not pertaining to the Game.

More I think about it, better to leave #GameDiscuss alone.

Sorry.

Soeur

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 09:47 am Click here to edit this post

when I rattled on with friends in gamediscuss is was with the understanding that it was not being logged. I would not have participated as freely as I did if they were going to be shared outside the group of people I was talking to at the time. So you <most definitely> do not have my okay to share texts of any discussions I particpated in.

Soeur

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 09:48 am Click here to edit this post

the above being noted, I would like at this point to say that nothing I said would rock anybody's world...

Digilady

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 10:08 am Click here to edit this post

You're not the only one, sis... ME TOO!!

LOL

Don't worry, and thanks for the response. That's what I was looking for.

Whit et al, sorry. The most interesting discussions were in GroupChat and especially OneOnOne!

Truly, GameDiscuss often had a small group of people discussing very private issues.

Ocean_Islands

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 11:54 am Click here to edit this post

Gee, sounds like an automatic Game III! Let's turn the tables on ye! Whoever comes across the best wins. Is that a good idea or what? It wasn't moderated, either.

Mishamisha

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 12:00 pm Click here to edit this post

Digi, the hush money you requested will be wired this afternoon to your Swiss bank account.

Digilady

Monday, February 26, 2001 - 12:26 pm Click here to edit this post

I knew there hadda be a way to make a buck or two of this game thing.

MUAHahhahahaha!

Twiggyish

Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 06:12 pm Click here to edit this post

Most mirc chats are logged. Anyone can log them. I have never done that, as it seems like a waste of time. Plus, things can be taken wrong, when said in chat..and people who pass on things said there are looking to cause trouble. Just my opinion. Unless it is part of a game..so I am glad Digi, you aren't sharing it.

Digilady

Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 06:38 pm Click here to edit this post

Refuse, Twigs. Private is private.

I set Mirc to log. SO it logs everything... I maybe could set it to log only rooms x and y, but who knows how to do that?

One thing we all need to remember is to delete the things. Man do they take up space!