Spammie ~~~ Genius or ^&%$#%
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Luckygal | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 03:12 pm  Just My Opinion also. SpamGirl attacks at the least whim. Whenever she perceives an insult, for example, she leaps before she looks. I feel a lot of people are trying to say just that. As far as I have seen in the Game (and before, when I was just a lurker), Spam has a hair-trigger temper. Credit where credit is due, she apologises a lot. Does that always make things right, I wonder? Insult people continually and then apologise? In my book, I don't think so. I think SHE should think more carefully about what she says, before she says it. |
Moondance | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 03:15 pm  Nicely put LuckyGirl... thank you! |
Gail | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 03:24 pm  Spam lost my support when she said those terrible things about Joni (in chat with Azriel) before Joni entered the game. Then She decides that Joni is her new best friend. Sorry, saying you hate someone and calling them a b1tch before you even meet them isn't cool. Would love to know though . . .what did Joni do to Spam to deserve being called a and why did she earn Spam's hate? To me, hate is a pretty strong emotion. I suppose being brought into the game as an alternate is a pretty horrible thing to do to another person. Thank god I am not so touchy that a crime that evil, mean and disgusting doesnt bother me. (i am being sarcastic by the way) |
Resortgirl | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 03:31 pm  I too agree with you Luckygirl.. Vitresse In your post you say "Otherwise, I think sometimes she is a little too honest about her opinions, but rarely attacks for attacking sake. My question to you is: are her opinions based on fact? That was your problem with what My opinion was concerning Spam... I just want to know if you hold her up to the same scrutiny? |
Vitresse | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 03:38 pm  Ok, Luckygal. How come there is a thread here for you to discuss Spamgirl "attacking" at the least whim, but not one for Guruchaz? He's been doing the same thing. Gail, I don't believe she meant them about Joni (and, in fact, she has appologized to Joni and JONI is really the only one who should be offended by them) but about the situation in general. She was saying they were bringing in a , not that Joni was a . As usual, it's all about how you read things. And, if you'd watched their One-On-One, she didn't hate Joni. In fact, they seem to be pretty good friends. If what she said about Joni was really intended to hurt her, how come Joni is friends with her now? Anyway, I did not unlurk to fight, I just unlurked to add a link to help out. <relurk> |
Resortgirl | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 03:45 pm  Maybe it's because we kind of expected it from Guru because that's how he always has been. Maybe we expected more from Spam. The truth is that you have a right to see Spam the way you see her and (we) have a right to see her the way we do. I think it's great that as her friend you want to defend her actions. I simply haven't liked what I have seen so far from her. OK? |
Luckygal | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 03:53 pm  Vitresse: We are not discussing Guru in this thread. If you feel there should be such a thread, start one! I'd gladly post a thing or two there, also. As for the Joni thing, that's what I meant about "look before you post". Later Spam regretted saying this, and said so. Don't you dare relurk! I can't believe I unlurked... maybe I should relurk too? |
Moondance | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 03:57 pm  Nice RGirl and Luckygirl as Wink once said to me "you stay right where you are!" the board needs you and your insights about everything! |
Soeur | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 04:05 pm  I have one comment to add. Spam has the worst language on the boards. I don't care for that. It is too strong in a public forum where we all have different standards of what is acceptable & it is below my threshold. Her chats are often spoiled for me because of the comments. It often makes her sound much harsher than she (perhaps) realizes...JMHO |
Tukuul | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 06:37 pm  Lance, Spam's basis for things are all over the map. One second she's saying one thing and the next she says something else. I don't see how she can keep up with her own complaints. She surely doesn't give Gu a benefit of the doubt and he senses that. At least I noticed Gu gives reasons and sticks with the same reasons for his actions. What gets me is that she rants more about Gu than anyone and wants to suffocate Merlin with the bag. See? All over the map.  |
Tukuul | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 06:39 pm  As for the question, who's more at fault: the person who jokingly asked it or the person who used it in the RR interview instead of throwing it out? |
Lancecrossfire | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 06:56 pm  Tuk, I agree with you that Spam is all over the place with things. My question though, had to do with one person answering (and getting a comment made for the fact they provided an answer) and another person answering (and not having a comment made). For me, the path at which either arrive at an answer is a different issue than giving the answer. (that was the reason for my comment) Not saying either was right or wrong for answering, just that both should be viewed the same for that point, as both did answer. In looking at the 6 of 8 who've responded to the RR voting, it would appear Spammy is up for consideration no matter what the last 2 have to say in their votes. |
Bamagirl | Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 09:12 am  Tuk...yesterday you wondered as I did..why Spam picked Merlin to smother... From her chat with Az last night... <spamgirl> i suffocated merlin, but i meant to type guru... it was a freudian slip, i think <spamgirl> rofl az, how sweet <Azriel> lol <spamgirl> i was sure it was guru until i looked it over again today (of course, the logger keeps copies ;) With their feelings (Spam and Guru) towards each other...I can see this more than I could Merlin...just showing cause of all the talk yesterday on this. Still a not so nice thing to ask either way. (JMO) |
Tukuul | Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 10:40 am  Yeah, she always has an excuse for everything. Again, all over the map. See? It changes daily. Does she keep logs of everyone's RR conversations? She is such a liar and I don't see how that can slip by people. |
Tukuul | Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 10:42 am  I read that transcript. If Spam leaves the board after this is all over and doesn't come back, it's because the logs prove she's the liar she is. It all comes out in the wash. She'll probably make up some excuse like that was her "in-game character". What a smart yet lame individual she is. Sickening. |
Tukuul | Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 11:00 am  Ok, one other observation. Spam knew in her heart going into this game that she would be the big winner. Now, she's not so sure and she's freaking out. Heaven forbid if she was to lose any type of game. She is so jealous of Gu that it shows. That's the honest truth that she will never admit. Ok, I think I'm done in here for now. LOL! |
Dilligaf | Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:02 pm  I just have to say I'm truly sickened by the remarks Spam made today about Moon. Can you say "unfounded"? |
Lancecrossfire | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 12:48 am  As I indicated I wanted to do, I've created a summary of how it seems things have gone. There seems to be this good/bad thing she can show in a flash--either way. The bad has caught a lot of people's attention. When it's been bad, it's been pretty darned bad. It's this portion that needs resolution in order for some to move forward with Spam, and probably for her to move forward with them (I can't speak for her--this is mere speculation, and I know that) I have given some consideration to Spam and how she played in the game. Note that all of these are based on my observations and are my opinions. I may through in a few things others have said, although am not trying to speak for them, decide how they should feel or think, nor do that for anyone else living or dead. I think that some of the things that make Spam a very positive, driven, high energy person also allow her to be the person that some people just can’t get along with sometimes. Quick to react and quick to act---this has been a good thing and a bad thing. In puzzles and in challenges, this trait has been a big help. Spam’s mind seems to work a certain logic track very well and very fast. It can also be a part of Spam blowing up quickly as well. Add that passion she has, that fire, and sometimes what seems like (I said seems like, not is) a lack of thinking a scenario out in her mind, and she lets her emotions and her mouth run away. Case in point—saying she hated Joni before Join got into the game and they even met. How can you hate someone you haven’t met??? Thinking Digi is not organized based on a simple mistake. It is these seat of the pants evaluations and proclamations of her feelings and beliefs before checking things out even just a fair amount that seem to cause such consternation with so many people. Also her swearing on the board gets high volume with just a little raise in her concern of things. I understand this as I used to take this approach, thinking that such words would bolster my thoughts, as they are strong words. Yes, they are strong, although are hurtful when used against someone. Comment made in regard to Moon weren’t riddled wit these words, although where quite strong, caustic, and hurtful. So many people, including Spam, attach a trait to the actual person. I’ve done stupid things before, although they don’t make me stupid. Spam has indicated that she does things for various organizations to help them out. This is wonderful! She uses her computer skills to match up needs and things available to many groups. She has a deep care for animals, and for kids. These are all compassionate caring traits. Yet this caring side seems to go away when she is bothered or someone questions her. She has stated that she wants to be trusted, yet has a tough time trusting others. Listening to her life, I can understand why she might be very slow to trust—although she should also realize it works both ways—others may be slow to trust as well. To gain the kind of trust she wants she will have to give someone that kind of trust. Maybe she does it in real life…it doesn’t seem like it happens here. (is everyone still remembering that I’m throwing out opinions???) Spam is bright smart, driven, passionate, strong, caring person. She has made connections with a number of people around here. She has also exploded without information, taken things to fact that aren’t, and reacted to it. I hope she comes back, as she has added to what Neil’s board has become. I also hope that like her situation with Joni, she can find a way to make those kinds of friendships with someone she has said some pretty bad things to. In order to do that, she first has to be here. And for those on the board, I do reiterate that she has said some bad things about some people. He’s been mean and depending on your definition cruel. I also want to say that she has come at me full force yet done so with respect. I consider myself glad to have gotten to experience that with Spam, and I hope that she affords that to everyone else, and everyone else affords it to her. It does take both ways to make it work---and it seems that for some she might well have to make that first step in treating them with respect before she will get it in return. Spam if you are listening out there, take care. I’ll be mailing you to see how you are. I didn’t like that you left the way you did, and as you said, since it’s my issue with you, I should be the one to contact you. So I will. Spam, I hope we can talk about why you said some of those things...I just don't understand it right now. |
Tukuul | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 07:29 am  I agree Lance but I wouldn't kiss her ass like that. That's what she thrives on. Remember, she's always right. She needs to slow her mouth down and own up to her actions and take responsibility for them.
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Norwican | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 07:34 am  Lance, I would like to say that I agree with you on Spam having some very good qualities and that she has added much to this board. I have not personally had any negative interaction with Spam as I have stated before. She, like everyone else, is free to dislike or like anyone she chooses. I do not however appreciate flaming whether displayed by Spam, Guru or whoever. I choose to ignore flaming or as Elitist referred to it "blowing off steam" (understatement IMO) and usually do not respond to such posts unless it is directed at me, which has never happened to my recollection. The problem that I have with Spam that caused me to write my banner (which by the way I know you were not referring to in the other thread) was that I cannot tolerate lies being told about someone... especially when the person they are lying about cannot defend themselves "face to face" so to say. That is just wrong no matter who is involved... and in my mind cannot be explained away by age, passion, or anything. JMO |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 07:39 am  Right Nor and I agree with Tuk, too. She needs to learn to curb her temper. |
Bamagirl | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 07:49 am  I agree Lance... I hope that Spam knows in her heart that some of the things she said were very hurtful to others. She can not have the passions for so many things and be so willing to help people and not know. I hope after she reads everything that she will come back and mend fences. Spam has many wonderful traits and can offer a lot here. |
Willi | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 08:23 am  Norwican...Exactly. By the time I get here to post, usually one of you has summed it up better than my rambling-mambling self could do. You are all a neat & diverse group. I remember Tukuul saying it's like a bowl of "Chex Mix" here at TVCH. How very true. Some of us pass on the pretzels...Others pass on the peanuts...But, enjoyable none the less. |
Lancecrossfire | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 08:24 am  Yes, Tukuul--I didn't say it outright, however I firmly believe Spam (and everyone) needs to take responsibility for their words and actions. |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 08:32 am  Bama, exactly! |
Leap | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 11:08 am  Thanks to all of you for putting in words what I have been thinking. I have enjoyed much of what Spam has contributed to the board both inside and outside the game. However, I also believe that she went way too far, too often while in the game. Just as I hope that no one else disappears for any reason, as I have grown to greatly enjoy the folks on this board, I hope Spam can come back and mend fences. |
Joni | Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 10:23 pm  For some reason I have waited to post here. It's true that Spam did not want me in the game. Think of BB.What would they have done if Beth was brought in when one of their own was taken out? Spam and I have made friends. |
Tukuul | Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 11:42 pm  For how long though? |
Joni | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 08:22 am  From now til whenever. We may not have known eachother before the game but we do now and that is what counts |
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