The Red Room Sessions
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The Red Room Sessions
Ocean_Islands | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 07:43 pm  In the interests of transparency, here are all the red room messages I have sent to "interrogator01@hotmail.com". I was thinking about how I disliked the interrogator editing and adding commentary to Red Room messages in Game I, and since I have a great number of nominations, I wanted to ensure that the spectators have unedited Red Room sessions from me. You the players may also see them, I've really nothing to hide. I've been getting more frustrated with the lack of interactive discussion on the board, and last night's chat was disappointing. We actually were getting to some issues, when someone named "Sexy Voice" came on and started talking dirt, which put the kebosh on any further discussion. If this stimulates discussions, I'd be happy. If you are wondering about formatting, I began embedding formatting code into my messages hoping that interrogator was cutting and pasting. I have no idea if the codes were kept in the messages or not. Yes, these are all of my red room sessions. No, none have been altered. Yes, they are complete. O. Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:22:09 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Re: First Impressions Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Impressions of my fellow players in Game II: Spam-- making an effort Libra-- having fun Azriel-- readying issues Juju-- revealing deeper hilarity Cammie-- sincere Ocean-- curmdgeon Elitist-- ill, not at 100% Guru-- making an effort Merlin-- normal Newamush--learning Here is what I am wondering: Who will meltdown like Xenia, and when. As far the game goes it seems to be going pretty well, but at the risk of Moondance calling me a grump again, the virtual house rooms suck. It's hard to find anyone. If you ever have a conversation regarding a certain subject, you can't find it, because it has no title but is in 'living room' or some s**t like that. Ok, I'll be nice now (donning superficial smile for entertainment purposes). What is the point of the secrecy regarding your identity, interrogator. Fess up. What do you have to hide, anyway? Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:44:36 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Re: Interaction Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> 1) You had, and passed, your first challenge. What are your thoughts on it? It was fun. On working together to solve a problem? On the prize? Those who worked on the puzzle seemed to work together quite well. The prize was a fun symbol. 2) What do you think of the chatroom, and the way it is used to allow you to interact "publicly"? It's a lot of fun, but as in all chats it allows a lot of inconsequential stuff to be said. It's not always a true conversation about anything. I would propose that a conversation topic be assigned to one or more chat sessions. Sometime you just want to hang around in the chat without anything much to say; that's ok but it's probably very boring to read. 3) A hypothetical: Through some quirk of fate you have to nominate someone NOW, based on the last few days of interaction. Who would you nominate and why? Or for those of faintheart, who refuse to think of that who would you NOT nominate and why? I would not nominate Juju2 and Guru. Why? Because they are fun. Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 04:27:47 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Re: Interaction Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room, I have a tendency to want to nominate Elitist, but I won't. I do like him and we get into some interesting conversations from time to time, but I find it a bit irritating that he's managed to get into the Game with his admiration society intact and in the game with him. It's all very well and good to have such a society, but for those who aren't a part of it, it's simply a distraction. That said, I'm not nominating him at this point. In planning for the Game and gathering ideas, one which came up was to ensure that the time zones are equally distributed. When a much smaller number of people applyied for the game than expected, that wasn't possible. The players are very heavily weighted in the Central Time Zone this time. Being on the east coast still has its disadvantages; at least, if you want to get any sleep. For my part, I was going to be working out of my office for two weeks, with computer access all day. However, my schedule has changed and I don't have access to a computer until I arrive home at 6:30 pm. The first two challenges have been solved by the time I got home. I'm sure I don't need to tell you that arriving late to a conversation makes it pretty difficult to enter in -- it even takes a long time just to catch up on what is going on. I said in my previous message that I won't nominate Juju or Guruchaz this time around because they are fun. I think that what they are is mostly unpredictable, and Guru is certainly not always fun. But being unpredictable is fun, at least in my mind (I might change my mind before this is over!). I don't think that the point of this game is to lay around and make "in" jokes or innuendos in the hot tub. I, for one, find that pretty boring -- I don't know about you. After all, if that were the most interesting thing, we wouldn't have movie stars in movies at all -- they'd just be on Hollywood Squares all the time! I nominated Merlin because there are entirely too many people from Texas in this game. I nominated Cammie because she seems to have nominated herself, being quite absent. I did want her in the game but she may have extenuating circumstances preventing her from participating. Sincerely, O. Islands Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:40:47 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Re: Interaction Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room The site is down this morning so I thought I'd drop you a note. I had just enough time to post the site of the day, "BSU"! I see that I got the most nominations, that's not very much fun. I also don't know why people nominated me, I might try to find out when I get home from work tonight. I'm having fun and getting a bit more used to being in the Game. It's quite different to suddenly be cut off from the entire site, and not be able to respond or comment on a lot of the discussion going on in the threads that I can see. It seems like there is a lot of things going on in the Game. Unfortunately, if you happen to miss chat, or you leave at a certain time, you can miss entire interactions which then make up a large part of the discussion the next day. We have no access to chat logs, so once the discussion has ended, there's no knowing what went on. I was sorry to hear that Cammie left the game. So I'm glad that I nominated her, since it didn't count for anything. Is it time to visit BSU, and to think about putting in an application? O. Islands Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:44:33 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Hello Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room, Here is a late breaking report from the daytime working world, recorded in nonpersonal time: "With the lack of access at work, I am in withdrawal every day. But that doesn't mean that I can't goof off off-line. I've had a bit of time to think about my nomination; while I still am not quite sure what to make of it, an examination of the game itself seems to be in order. What is our game? What does it mean? How do you play well? How do you play poorly? From inside the game the tempting attitude is to feel that playing the game is posting and responding to your fellow game players. But as in life, I don't believe things are quite that simple. I think playing the game well involves a holistic approach to technology and to the other players. I've tried to express myself not just in my responses to the other players, but to the game as a whole. This is why you may have seen my Game II player group photo, which is a kind of visual representation of the game. I was happy to use the same 'room' as a setting for the photograph that I did for Game II. And with the time that has passed since Game I, I've gone through extensive training; as you can see, I've been better able to reproduce people's images. The Game I photo had some blurry and overly pixellated areas. The Game II group photo has produced some astonishing likenesses that have had even the game players themselves remarking with surprise -- and yes, even consternation! You might say that I might have better spent my time in the Game posting, instead of working in the darkroom. You may be right, you may be wrong. As I'm sure you know, artistic pursuits take time. Contrary to what you might be thinking, the 'site of the day' thread is not just a platform for publicizing Buttscratch University, no. It is yet another expression in holistic gaming. I'm very pleased to announce that I'm preparing yet another technological advancement in TV Clubhouse Game evolution. When taking breaks from chat and from posting, I've been preparing and consulting with my technological advisors -- and be assured that they are totally independent of the game and site. This next step in Game II avuncular evolution is truly a Leap Forward for the year 2001! But for now, it is under wraps, and will be revealed only when completely 100% ready and cybertronically verified! Watch for it soon! O. Islands P.S. Concern is mounting over troublesome reports that have been coming over the cosmic continuum. Stay tuned for news. Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:36:13 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Sun. Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room, I had a bit more going on yesterday than I could deal with, hence this late message. I hope they are being posted as I email them rather than on a delayed basis. I think it has changed the dynamics of the group largely because we had one nomination which was voided. We know a bit more the lay of the land now, so to speak. I think that is one of the reasons that Elitist has been bouncing offthe walls since nominations were announced. I don't think it has affected my strategy for winning, though I'm not sure my approach is a strategy to winning as much as an approach to the game. I believe I discussed that in my previous message about holistic gaming. Some of you may be wondering, 'Just what is Ocean Islands up to? Is he off his rocker? And just where is this avuncular evolution he's talking about? I am happy to report that research in the laboratories is coming along apace and, in particular, Saturday evening experienced a breakthrough of outstounding proportions. I can't wait to reveal this all to you, dear Red Room! But first, patience is necessary and in fact, an attribute. Some also consider it a virtue. Murmurs of consternation were recently heard in the chat room upon the revelation of the new OneonOne chat technology. Would this be an avenue paved with gold for those alliance builders from the First Church of Rich? I was pleased to be one of the first to brave this new technofeasibility with Spamgirl. I'm sure some of you might have been thinking, "What were they thinking of?" I'm wondering that myself now that I have learned, as of last night, that Spamgirl nominated me. However, it went pretty well. I am always wary of Spamgirl's temper, but her behavior is always intriguing. Not having a log of that chat, I can't peruse it in detail. I forgot to ask Spamgirl why she nominated me (as a matter of fact I didn't even know she had at that point, I forgot to ask if she had). Interestingly enough, last night in chat as I received my reward for winning the latest puzzle, I asked regarding the nominations. Some of them explained why. Spamgirl said in chat to the others that she had told me why. However, I do not remember that conversation. I would have pursued that but I forget because I was trying to think of my other questions. I think Spam has a lot to offer but needs to cultivate a healthy balance to temper her reactiveness. I'm not planning on nominating her right now. Now that Spamgirl has requested a OneonOne with Elitist, alarm bells are going off. I would rather trust Spam when she said she is not interested in forming an alliance than not trust her. I might change that view, however. None of this stops the alarms from going off. Elitist, unfortunately, hasn't lived up to my feelings regarding our interactions. He doesn't seem to be really engaging me, just kind of throwing replies back. I have to admit that I was sad he had nominated me, as I learned last night. It's clear that we are coming from two different ends of the spectrum as far as relationships with people go. So I feel I have to return his nomination to him; I didn't ask for it and I don't want it. I repeat my nomination of Merlin; I nominated him just as a matter of mathematics. Someone has to go; there will be time for more strategic nominations later on. Sincerely, O. Islands Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 04:35:59 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Re: Saturday's Red Room Session Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room, Just a short report from the land of the living. I'm expecting a courier delivery from the Ocean Island Laboratories in Seaside Corners, Florida, this afternoon. I'm looking forward to it. It should be a report on progress being made on the latest innovation, and hopefully there is good news. The laboratory is thrilled that I was not nominated for banishment this weekend. I granted them a day off to celebrate. Herman, however, decided he just had to work all day. I'm grateful to my faithful employees. Sincerely, O. Islands Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book Subject: Dream of the Red Chamber To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room: The clockwork mechanisms of the banishment machine have been set in motion, and the spectators are the watchworks. I shall refrain from reading the clock to know the precise hours of doom and to keep from speculating on future as yet unknown victims. One can foretell the future and in doing so set in motion a tide of events that quickly falls out of one's control. That tide is as relentless as the ocean waves on the shores of oblivion. Sincerely, O. Islands Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 04:39:38 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Re: Some mroe questions. Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear RR: I'm sorry I ruined everyone's fun last night. Spam todl me that they forfeited. I"m feeling somewhat better this morning, I think it was food poisoning. On my way home from work, I stopped at an Indian carry out place, a place I had never been but had heard was good. I ordered chicken biryani, which they prepared and when I got home and ate it. I have to admit it tasted a bit iffy but I ate it anyway. Then I laid down for a few minutes to rest before the game started. I woke up at 10:20 (7:20 BT) feeling absolutely awful, but I went to the computer anyway to do the game. Sitting up made it worse and I puked. That's when I dashed off an email to my team to say I couldn't do thiis game tonight. I'm sorry again. I do'nt know whats goign on hte board today, I have to rush to work because one of the partners is showing up today for review. Ocean Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:58:26 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Communications Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room: It has come to my attention that there may be some questions that you have posed that I have not yet had time to answer. With this message I hope to address those outstanding issues. 1) Why do you think a compromise wasn't able to be reached? I'm tempted to believe it's because my team couldn't do without me. However, that would be egotism at its worst. I would propose that, the other team being given powers beyond its due, my team TidalWave saw no other alternative but to give in. Serious questions must be answered about why the Grassyknoll was given such powers. It did not seem warranted. It is a mystery. Is this due unwarranted advantaged due to a mole amongst us? 2) Considering the headaches that Hostess1 was given by some players over the issue of Cammie leaving and Joni entering, players who seemed to feel she wasn't trying to go by consensus or compromise, do you think it is hypocritical of those same people to refuse to compromise last night? I see the issues as completely separate. The Hostess1 is all-knowing. She knows how to properly deal with us underlings. 3) What do you think of the free for all chats, like last night after the abortive debate, where all the viewers are allowed to chime in? It must have due to a momentary glitch in the chat software. I see no reason why it would have been done deliberately. On the other hand, I'm sure it was entertaining for all concerned. For my part, I was worshipping the porcelain goddess and cannot comment. 4) Do you prefer the old Guruchaz, kinder-gentler Guruchaz, or kung fu grip Guruchaz? I see no contradictions in Guruchaz' behavior in the least. He is as consistent as Saddam Hussein, and as dependable as Bill Clinton acting as headmaster of a girl's boarding school. What other language(s) do you speak, and how did you learn it (from your parents, grandparents, travel, school)? I am fluent in French. I began study of French in 8th grade. When I arrived in France in 1992, I was quite rusty but had an astounding base which served me well. I must also add that my ability with the French accent has impressed all and laid waste to my enemies (which are few). What other countries have you travelled to? I have travelled to Canada, which is a strange and foreign land that has provoked fear and consternation in my countrymen. I have also visited: Ireland, England, Belgium, The Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Italy, and France, and also Switzerland. I have not been to Burkini Faso, to my detriment. What country would you like to travel to? I would like to visit Russia, Argentina, Chile, Australia, China, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and South Africa, among others. If given the choice, what period of history or time period would you choose to live in? I think the Roman Empire would be incredible. Also, the Greek Empire would be amazing. Egypt would be astounding. I would only want to live at these times and places if I were extremely rich and/or of royal blood. If you were to suffocate one player (currently in the game)with a bag until they pass out, who would it be? Would you use paper or plastic? Does not compute. you discovered that your closest friend at work had for years forged records and stolen from the company, what would you do? I would recommend my most trusted legal counsel. If permanent world peace could be gained by obliterating one country, would you be willing to select the country to be sacrificed? If so, which would you choose and why? Does not compute. I would not make such a decision. However, if there were a country of one person, and that person were willing to be sacrificed, I would consider it. Mrs. Cravitz from Salem Mass asks: "I would like to know who had the most influence in their lives and how that person influenced them." I think that would be my grandmother, who was an angel living on earth and who died at a young age. She somehow taught me to believe the best of others, even though they are seldom able to live up to that belief. George Dubyah Bushnell of Armadillo Tx writes: "if you could ask ONE question to the new, fully legitimate President of The United States, what would it be?" The new fully legitimate president of the United States? Who is that? Jes kidn. I would ask, are you a liar, or telling the truth? Soleil Moonbeam Fried from Wallawalla Washinton asks: If each one could speak to a famous person, living or dead, who would they choose? And what would you first question be? I would speak to Cleopatra, Queen of Egypt. I would ask her what is the essence of true love? Ima Crankovitch from Springfield ** asks: "Would the players like the viewers to lessen the name changing in chat - what do they think about this?" This is, indeed, an earth shaking and serious controversy, whose answer must be found. Identities are a serious matter. No identity changing should be allowed by game players or spectators. After all, it is NOT, "All Optics". One last question, this from a Reggie Fillbin, from NY NY, who asks: "Imagine you were a finalist in a contest paying a million dollars to whoever did the most good in the coming year - as judged by a panel of certified philanthropists. If the rules allowed you to spend no more time and money than you could comfortably afford, what would you do? This is a difficult question. I think I would write to the most important charities in the world, and give them my advice; we can, in the end, only give of ourselves. Barring that, I would volunteer to the extent possible to youth organisations in my community. Who do you think is your biggest rival, or rivals, in The Game? I believe (and I could be wrong) that my truest rival is the person who is playing the game more holistically than myself. Not knowing all (like Digilady), I cannot guess as to who this person is. Sincerely, O. Islands Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 04:42:03 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Re: Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room: As promised, the unveiling of my new technology has taken place. Players in the game were intrepreted in an auditory format which is now available to be heard by users of Real Player at the following address: New Advancement in Game Technology It has been 12 hours since the banishments were announced, and MissLibra and Spamgirl left the game. What are your thoughts and feelings on banishment night? How do you think it will affect the dynamic of the game? I think the interactions between Spamgirl and Guruchaz were unfortunate and certainly not what I had in mind when I proposed the three of us meeting in a one on one chat. It got a bit out of control. And it was perhaps optimistic on my part to think we could get beyond anything. I'm not clear how it played out to spectators, but since one of the two parties is no longer in the game, there may be fewer fireworks. Sincerely, O. Islands Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:39:41 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Re: Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room I am in an incredible crunch time right now at work, so I'm not too happy and playing the game is pretty difficult. It would help if a schedule were posted instead of these surprises. When my team won I didn't think I was going to have to be scrambling to answer a challenge for a plum prize given at midnight and due at 4 the next day. Of course, there are some trivial details to take care of like sleep, work and eating. Sincerely, O. Islands Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:43:06 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: none Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room: I learned this morning that all of the other players nominated me. I'd like to think better of that, for instance that because we had been offered a chance at immunity, and, having won it, the coin flip loser was punished by everyone. But I really don't know if that's the case. I never said that my feelings wouldn't get hurt and I have to admit that it doesn't feel too good that they all nominated me. There are as you know certain people that I had said I would not nominate, and it does hurt to know that they nominated me. That is probably a dumb kind of strategy to have I suppose. The last two days have certainly been crunch days for me at work but the weekend is looking more open than previously so I hope to have moments to take up the slack. I thought it was very curious in chat when I started talking about my feelings about losing this 'coin toss' and people started acting as if I was leveling accusations of cheating. It had actually never entered my mind and I have to admit I'm wondering why people were jumping down my throat about it. I reserve my right to express disappointment and felt some of the people were trying to shut me up, which seemed inappropriate. I am continually frustrated in chat because nobody actually wants to talk about anything. Anyway... hope all is well with you! Sincerely, O. Islands Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 19:21:30 -0800 (PST) Top of Form 1 && From: Ocean Islands <ocean_islands@yahoo.com> | Block address | Add to Address Book &&&&& Subject: Re: Good Morning. Bottom of Form 1 To: The Interrogator <interrogator01@hotmail.com> Dear Red Room: 1) Why did you enter The Game? For fun. 2) What pre-conceived ideas did you enter the game with, and how do you think they have changed? My preconceived idea was that the game would hurt me. It has not changed. 3) Of all the players left, who is your least favourite and why? Elitist is my least favorite, because I used to enjoy him and the reality clashed. 4) Of all the players left who is your most favourite and why? I prefer Guru and Juju2. Juju has made some recent comments that could be taken two ways. Of course I've given her the benefit of the doubt, but who knows. Also, she nominated me. Guru is great but quite unstable. I prefer the funny twin to the evil one. 5) Do you believe in reincarnation? If yes, do you know of any of your past lives? I'm open to the possiblity, but that's about it. 6) If because of intolerance you were going to miss a wonderful chance at a promotion, might you lie to hide your religious beliefs? No. Some things are too difficult to live through, and intolerance is one of them. 7) If you had to be a twin, would you prefer your twin to be of the same sex or opposite? If you pick the same sex would it be more fun for him/her to be identicle or would you not want to look like someone else? Where are you getting these crazy questions? A fraternal twin is actually just like a regular brother and sister and so in that sense is hardly even a twin. I'd prefer an identical twin. If you're going to be a twin you might as well go all the way. 8) Rosa Parks courageously refused to give up her bus seat to a white man. If given the circumstances, would any of you do something noble, in order to prove a point? Of course. 9) What was you favourite movie of the last year, and why? I don't believe I've seen any movies in the last year that came out in the same year. Is that what you mean? Or any movie I saw in the last year? Of any I've seen, I'd have to say "Coral Sea Dreaming" is the tops. Sincerely, O. Islands |
Elitist | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 01:18 pm  Just as a service I thought I would post Merlin's Red Rooms below: |
Guruchaz | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 02:21 pm  I would post mine but I don't save every post I make in a text file for later regurgitation. |
Elitist | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 02:35 pm  I thought we were doing regurgitation in another thread? |
Guruchaz | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 03:50 pm  Really? I thought it was in the chatroom. lol! |
Merlin | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 04:00 pm  I can tell by Elit's post of my red rooms that the Interrogator has done no editing. |
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