Topic #5 - What do you think about Talisker?

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Players, you have realized that Talisker(Ryder) is actually Gail, a TVClub Moderator. Discuss what you would like to do about it if anything. After you have discussed this issue, a poll will be conducted over the weekend to decide if you would like Talisker booted out of the Game. Majority Rules in this respect.
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Arreal

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:36 pm Click here to edit this post
We did have a so-called informal alliance and that is why I trusted him to tell the truth about Gail also. Shnookered again.

Host

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:41 pm Click here to edit this post
There are 2 issues at hand here:
1. Talisker being a moderator, and
2. Players receiving outside information.
The Host can not prevent issue #2. We specifically asked that you be sequestered to the Play Room, and to not address any E-mail messages being sent to you from the outside... Since this is an online game, we have no control whether you chat on other programs, or send or receive E-mail from your friends... If you are breaking the rules, and we don't know about it, there's nothing we can do.
Regarding the first issue, I will respond to your questions.
Big Host was aware of Talisker's situation prior to choosing her to play the Game.
Talisker has no special privileges as a Player of the Game and is treated just as the 8 of you are. All rules apply to her, just as they do to you.

Luke

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Wow... the Host has spoken!

Xenia

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:47 pm Click here to edit this post
How truly pathetic.

Out of all the people who applied to play the game, someone out there decided it would be more fun to have a moderator, someone with inside information no doubt, play this game rather than a legitimate contestant.

Why???

So one day we could end up discussing it in a thread?

Is this supposed to be DRAMA?

And what really disgusts me is the stress, yes actual stress, this childish mind game caused Arreal.

Why have a a game at all when it's created so that no one can play it fairly?

Moondance

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:52 pm Click here to edit this post
OMG... I go to work and get back.... WHAT happened???

I will get it together and give my post in a few

Himay10ns

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Damn Xenia, I'm glad you're here. This place has gone nuts....I'm interested to hear more of your take on the situation. I hope you've read the threads....it's worse than pathetic, it's villainous. Lyin', cheatin', stealin'...what next?

Arreal

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:55 pm Click here to edit this post
(((Moon))))

Luke

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:56 pm Click here to edit this post
Hello Moon... Lemme know what you think.

Roger_Ramjet

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:59 pm Click here to edit this post
"Arreal has created this quagmire of suspicion and paranoia, I'm not going to be a party to her antics. I told her before, I'm not gonna treat talis any different from the others, If I feel like nominating talis I will, if I don't, I won't." ---From Vyk's above message

Parnoia--fear with out basis. It would seem that there as basis for Arreal's concern Tali is Gail. Suspicion as well about that--yep. Was she/we wrong about Vyk being Neil?? Yes, we were--note that Arreal asked if I thought it was possible--I said yes, just about anything is. So, she was 50% on her concerns.

Vyk, you asked a good question about you being two people--that was a question I thought up, not Arreal. If you would like to know why I thought to ask that, I'd be happy to tell you. I believe thaht based on your question of it beingVyk/Optics, it may well not be two others like I thought--although it's still a posibility. You didn't say Tali is Gail--of course you didn't hvae to, although you had the option of doing so. By not, you run the risj of others thinking you hide things...not saying you do it--just you run the risk by the choice you made.

Tali, hey, I have no problem with you playing, as long as you are kept off the chat and other boards the same as we are. It was mentioned, if memory serves me right that moderators wouldn't be included..the written rule counts though, not the verbal. I still go by verbal things people tell me (or don't tell me) though.

I could give a rip about them talking on AOL. If I'm up at 3:00 and talking to someone, you can't hear me. So I say something about nominations--notice how they come out anyway??!! lol

HOST----based on your response to one question, it would seem you would have to know Gail was going into the game. I'llconsider it one of your little tric you are to play on us over the month. You have done nice things as well, and I am confident you are trying to make it a good game. Hell, you didn't have to answer the questions, yet you did!!! Thanks

Hey, Arreal, Xenia, waht did I say concerning if you don't ask, they won't get answered--if you do, there is a chance they will!!!!

May, I like your style on this.

Arreal, I have to say we have developed a friendship, and I want to say that all the things you point out above are valid points---but not because we are friends--it's because the are valid points!!!!

I say let Tali stay. I feel it was within the rules.

Himay10ns

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:02 pm Click here to edit this post
Roger, I've liked your style since Day 1! Thanks for the vote of confidence....amazing what can happen in a day!

Arreal

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Roger. I to consider us friends.

Hey, my GRE's gave me well above the 50th percentile in logic...kewl. It shows occassionally. :)

One question, I love a mystery.

Did Host say that Vykin was at LEAST two people???

Roger_Ramjet

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks for liking my style--and the vote of confidence came from what you did! Be sure to thank yourself as well!!

Arreal--I really blew asking that quuestion. I said two or more people. SO, if he is two people, then a s yes answer...I did nothing additional by including the rest of it--damn! I usually ask thoes better. I could use, lack of sleep as an excuse--I'm not going to though--it was a pertially wasted question. As Vyk points out, posting at Vyk and, say Optics, would yield a yes answer as well.

So, Host wanted to know about letting Tali stay--has anyone been keeping count of our votes?? We have 10 people (I feel as Talu is a BG, she gets a vote as well!!!)

Tali, please come out and vote. Host, if it's 5/5, would you be the deciding vote?

Xenia

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:29 pm Click here to edit this post
You were right Roger!!! Brilliant thinking regarding asking the questions!!!

HiMay: I left you a message in the livingroom.

Granted this is the first time this game was played and there needs to be kinks worked but, there should have been that standard rule; "Employees of TV Clubhouse and their families cannot qualify to play The Game" (employees meaning moderators.)

What raises my suspicion about Gail being planted is that she really hasn't participated that much. She had enough time to moderate the BB board, but doesn't have enough time to play the game?

What the hell is her purpose for being here?
And Giblets, you get my next post all to yourself...

Moondance

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:34 pm Click here to edit this post
{{{Arreal}}} [[[Luke]]]
Hi… Roger, Xenia and May
I will catch up but so far what I feel is this....

I like Gail, she was very dedicated to the BBFC board and worked really hard but I have my questions about Talisker. I think that is why I jumped behind Arreal on the questioning before I went to bed (now I wish I didn't)
Tali seemed to have ulterior motives (just a feeling) and just bonded with the guys. Not until last night has she really stuck around as long as she did with women in the room!

Arreal, thanks for being so straightforward about everything ... again, I stand behind you.

As far as Talisker in the game ... pretty funny the Host played with us on that one... If the rules are followed here on out with Tali, I say to the Host...go ahead and let her stay, we'll take care of her :)

My verdict is still out on Vykin ... if you knew about Gail, please just come out and say so like Arreal did (if you did, please disregard then, I haven't caught up on everything)
Also, one of the questions in the challenge thread, Roger asked if more than two people were posting for you and The Host answered YES.... uummm, not sure what to think there.

I am still playing catch up so I will be back!

Arreal

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:37 pm Click here to edit this post
Xenia---

After I posted my application to the Game, I was Approached by Neil and asked if I would consider being a mole in the game. I said sure, why not.

A day or so prior to the game he sent me an e-mail saying they decided against using a mole.
He thanked me. Just thought I might add this tidbit of info into the equation.

Ah, Roger you didn't blow the question...we now know that there are questions concerning Vyk as we questioned. All was not wasted. HUGS

Moondance

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:38 pm Click here to edit this post
If you think about it though ... wasn't Vykin the one so interesting in Arreal's multiple personalities?... Maybe that explains him being more than one person!

:)

Xenia

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:42 pm Click here to edit this post
You know, Giblets the more I think about you, your behavior and the underhanded way you have been playing this game, the more I want to take the tennis ball you mentioned in front of the Internet Camera and ram it down your throat.

Stop bashing Arreal. She wasn't being paranoid, she was accurately assessing the situation.

You are a liar, Giblets. Now that has been proven, why would anyone have any reason to trust you or take anything you say seriously?

Arreal

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:47 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL MOON...sure!!!! (note the sarcasm there) :)

(((MooN)))

Xenia

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:47 pm Click here to edit this post
Arreal: So maybe Neil didn't change his mind regarding having a mole, but changed his mind regarding who that mole was going to be?

But here's my question to you all: Knowing that there's all this behind-the-scenes manipulating and lying going on, does this make the game less fun to play for any of you?

Xenia

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Sorry, did mean to ignore you Moon...

Hey Moon!!!

You should have been here last night. You are way better at solving puzzles than I am. We could have used your help. :)

Moondance

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:50 pm Click here to edit this post
Makes me want to win more, Xenia....

How are you doing Arreal?I can't believe all of this

Arreal

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:52 pm Click here to edit this post
It honestly makes me more determined to figure out what the Hell is going on.

I was accused of being paranoid. I was accused of being cunning. Man accused me of being whiney and fragile. HA! HA! HA!

I think they did decide on a different mole. But now I want to know who that mole is....Gail...or... Vykin.

Moondance

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:53 pm Click here to edit this post
I know... I am hardly ever not here and this happens ... damn

One of my fears come true ..."I might be missing something"

Moondance

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Yeah... I won't use weak, whiney or fragile to discribe you, Arreal... you go girl!

Arreal

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:57 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm doing great. I feel like I have a little focus in the game now. I feel like we are in a group challenge and I HAVE PARTICIPATED LOL

I feel like even thought I did chat with Vykin in IM's and in the AOL private chat room with he and Gail, I still have been honest with all my housemates.

I feel good!

How about you?

Himay10ns

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes Xenia, I think liars and cheaters take the fun out of anything!

But just like George and the slanderous banners, it just pisses me off and makes me want to win more!

The gloves are off....

And Xenia, don't be so sure you're going to be the one who leaves. I for one, hope you stay. I think the public will certainly decide and I think the voting will change because of the recent revelations.

Himay10ns

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:03 pm Click here to edit this post
And Xenia, I got your message in the LR. Here's a {{{cookie}}} right back at you! I know the true meaning of forgive and forget....

Moondance

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Go May!!!!

Arreal... I am pretty good. I need a shower but now I can't leave !

Moondance

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:11 pm Click here to edit this post
BTW ..I was inspired by Xenia & May's exchanges... that was a great path you both took.

Arreal

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:12 pm Click here to edit this post
lol Moon. Oops. :)

Good thing you can reread the threads.

Moondance

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:15 pm Click here to edit this post
yes but my luck... I will miss something again!