Challenge #9 - Are Moondance & Luke cheating?

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Max

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 03:39 pm Click here to edit this post
The discussions between members of the two teams--Team A (Vykin, Roger, and HiMay) and Team B (Moondance & Luke)--have been going on trying to determine which BG received the most votes for each of the various categories.

Team A's discussions, however, are obviously being observed by Team B since both Moondance and Luke have posted in the thread.

Is this cheating? The rules don't specifically prohibit looking at what the other team is doing, but isn't there some common sense involved here? The rules do say that the team members aren't allowed to simply compare individual votes to determine their final choices.

How does this compare with the outside contact discussion? Email and IM contact were not specifically excluded in the orginal rules, yet the general consensus is that common sense deemed that kind of conduct to be cheating. Is this a similar situation?

I'm just wondering what folks think about this situation.

(Hey, Guru isn't the only one who can rattle cages around here, right? :))

Wcv63

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 03:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Well Max...I think they are just teasing Team A and as Himay has posted in Team B's folder as well I guess the playing field has been leveled.

Anbis

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 03:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Well if you noticed,the other team has posted in Moondance's & Lukes folder too, so they are all cheating!:)They are just having fun!

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 03:54 pm Click here to edit this post
I think this is totally inappropriate.

Guruchaz

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 04:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Max, it's not that big a cage to rattle.

There's nothing wrong with Team A looking at Team B and vice versa. They can do so anyway regardless if they post in the opposite area. I'm sure the host could have set flags to lock each team out of the opposing areas.

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 04:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Are you saying cheating is acceptable?

Affinity

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 04:45 pm Click here to edit this post
I am agreeing with Guru on this one

Anbis

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 04:53 pm Click here to edit this post
Who are we to say that they are cheating. I went back to look and the only thing that was posted was clipart. Both teams did this. Who is to say that they even read anything? Both teams are working on the challenge differently. I still think they are only having fun.

Max

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 06:29 pm Click here to edit this post
"Who are we to say that they are cheating."

Yes, that's exactly what made me post the question. After the ad naseum discussion of cheating in regards to IMs and emails with BGs, it seemed there were some parallels here.

Outside contact issueChallenge issue
No explicit rule barring IMs or emails Ditto
When controversy started-no knowledge by "audience" of message content No "audience" knowledge of whether opposing team actually read discussion threads or just posted clipart
BGs could have just been having fun for all we knew Ditto
Perhaps BGs were playing the game with individual approaches Perhaps the teams are working on the challenge differently
Individual BGs might have been using these communications to increase their chances of winning The Game Teams might be sneaking peaks at the other team's answers to increase their chances of winning the challnge

Is it just me, or are these situations, at least at the outset, rather parallel?

I'm not interested in calling anyone a cheater. I'm more interested in the audience reactions and analysis of what seem to me to be somewhat similar situations.

Like I said, just stirring the pot. All reactions are welcome (except for bashing me because I posed a simple question). :)

Anbis

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 06:51 pm Click here to edit this post
Both teams cheated posting clipart in the other folder. What do want the host to do?

Tukuul

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 06:55 pm Click here to edit this post
I think the host should take their clipart privileges away. That'll teach them! What fiends!


OK! OK! I admit it! I'm peeking at everyone's answers, but I just can't control myself!!!

Noslonna

Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 08:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Max, I am just in awe of your Table Tabloids!

btw... if you put the \ and the -1 before every attribute in the table, the text will not be so large.