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Whit4you

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 06:39 am Click here to edit this post
I'm so confused reading the latests posts from the BGs. I was watching "live" when Tali tried to lure Roger into a private chat - live chat where we couldn't see it. Roger refused a # of times, and made it clear that it was against the rules. According to ArReal, Tali then convinced her and Vykin to join her in a private chat on AOL. I do not know if ArReal or Vyking knew it was a rule or not - but Talisker clearly did at the time. Regardless of if ArReal or Vyking knew it was against the rules, they certainly SHOULD have read the rules prior to joining the game. In addition - I think it's obvious the point of this game is "no outside contact" about the game which is why they can't read the posts on the game outside the board. They were all BB Fans and they know from thousands of commercials etc "no privacy" was a key point in the game.

I'm not going to assume that what ArReal is saying is the "truth" here but - it just shocks me that grown-ups can't play a game by the rules.
And regardless of who Tali is or isn't - what did she think she was doing trying to get them all to talk where WE couldn't see what was going on.

It seems they are all getting extremely paranoid "in there" and it's really unfortunate. I wasn't even PLAYING the game and I took the time to read the rules. Even if she DIDN'T read the rules however, Tali clearly knew that going to a private chat with two other players on AOL WAS Against the rules at the time she did so.

<sigh>

Whit

Teebird

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:11 am Click here to edit this post
Whit
I agree wholeheartedly!!! I think that Tali should be immediately disqualified. I have no idea if what ArReal is saying is true about her identity and personally that is not the issue. The issue is ......they are not suppose to go somewhere that is "private." I am not even totally convinced that Vykin and ArReal shouldn't be disqualified for the same reasons!!! Just because Tali was the instigator doesn't mean it was any more right for Vykin or ArReal to go to the chat room!!!

Whit4you

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:29 am Click here to edit this post
Well, I am not sure about ArReal and Yykin myself as far as disqualifying, but I know for a fact based on her posts with Roger, that Tali KNEW clearly SHE was breaking the rules and trying to get two others to do so as well. Don't know if she made it clear to them that they would be breaking the rules or not. If ArReal and Vykin can honsestly say they did not know they were breaking the rules, personally I'd not want to see them disqualified - but I think that we should leave up to the other remaining contestants.

Unfortunately I don't have time to scroll back through ArReal and Vykin's first few days posts to see how clearly they knew the rules - I mean the rules were posted even I had read them. But if it was clear they knew that emailing each other - or having one on one private chats in secret that the viewers couldn't see etc, was against the rules, then I think they too should be disqualified. At the very least I think Tali should be disqualified - or we should all be allowed to REVOTE knowing what we know now! I think she'd just be voted out.


Whit

Noslonna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:34 am Click here to edit this post
I already stated my reasons for voting to banish Talisker the first hour polls were up. She is not being honest.

Digilady

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:54 am Click here to edit this post
Personally, I think all who were in the private chat should be exited from the game.. BECAUSE of the RULES.

This could possibly be a solution to other issues, Nos. And Nik, if you're reading this, and Nor.

Norequerdo

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:02 am Click here to edit this post
I still feel much like an outsider since I am new and I don't know the players at all so I feel it would be presumptous of me to put in my two cents about how the game should be run. I also don't want to come off as some sort of puritan, which I am not. I can swear like a sailor at times too. I have enjoyed reading this stuff as well but my immediate reaction after reading the post by Xenia which pretty much graphically stated how she would like to rape another player I found to be the most offensive thing I have ever read. It had so much violence in it and it didn't seem like it was a game or to "liven things up". It truly did offend me and I do think that the Host or whatever is running this game has to set some sort of standard, not censorship but to let people know the gloves can come off but there is a point where you go over the line and it should not be tolerated. If the game continues to slide down this path, I am sure I am not the only one who will abandon this and also for the future who on earth would want to join in a game where they know they are going to be verbally abused with the foulest language and threatsm (maybe they should have a Jerry Springer online show). IMHO. Sorry if I am long winded.

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:37 am Click here to edit this post
I think that who Talisker is, is important. If she is a moderator, were't we told that a moderator couldn't play the game? If it was ok for a moderator to play the game why the secret new name? I think that is the real issue here.

Noslonna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:37 am Click here to edit this post
She was a phone sex operator for goodness sakes! It was a fantasy that she has probably used many times for drooling men. Is there no humor in that?

Noslonna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:40 am Click here to edit this post
Katie, maybe she is Mrs. Moderator. She does seem to know "him" more than her RR talks would give us reason to believe. Don't some of the other BGs think the Host is female? Yet Tali continues to flirt openly with "him."

Norequerdo

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:44 am Click here to edit this post
who was a phone sex operator????

Digilady

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:46 am Click here to edit this post
From the Game Rules:

Players may be disqualified for any of the following reasons:
* attempting to create a secondary user ID on the TVClubHouse (this is against Club rules and could also result in you being suspended from the entire board)
* not posting when required
* chatting in the Chat Room when not designated

The last one. I assume that includes chatting in private elsewhere, or not? Host?

Digilady

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:47 am Click here to edit this post
Nor, Xenia was! (Ergo "Call me" by Blondie on her web site)

Petunia

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:51 am Click here to edit this post
Digi, I have a cold and my head's stuffy, so help me out here: "Xenia was!" what?

Norequerdo

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:52 am Click here to edit this post
O.K., now I get it. We are dealing with trailer trash here.

Ocean_Islands

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:53 am Click here to edit this post
It also says, "MAY" be disqualified, not "will be".

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:54 am Click here to edit this post
maybe she is Mrs. Moderator. She does seem to know "him" more than her RR talks would give us reason to believe. Don't some of the other BGs think the Host is female? Yet Tali continues to flirt openly with "him."
Or BH is female and Mrs. Moderator. All of the RR comments fit a pattern. It is like a formula with different words fit it. I suspect that the host is taking the BG answers to questions and filling them into the formula and the actions are from the host and not the game player. The flirting could be to hide who the BH really is.

Ocean_Islands

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:03 am Click here to edit this post
Please click on this for more information:


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Or follow The Game-Playroom/General Discussions/Topic #5 -- What do you think about Talisker?

Noslonna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:05 am Click here to edit this post
Ahhh Katie, that's it!

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:06 am Click here to edit this post
Error message??

Lafatme

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:15 am Click here to edit this post
vyk is sending cryptic messages on the net cam. in one he mentions "xisav," who i think is vasix backward. vasix USED to post here too but seems to be mysteriously gone for the game.

re-read vyk's messages. who is he talking to? what is he really saying? why the hell does he have any supporters when he never existed prior to the game?

i don't care who is playing or not playing but i don't like that SOME posters seem to have INSIDE INFO and are playing an entirely DIFFERENT GAME than the rest of us.

is there a "clique" of INSIDERS who know what's really going on? are they amused at the ignorance of the rest of us? i don't think that's funny!

are some of the "new" names on the board old posters who re-registered? will they now be banished as promised? we'll see.

Norequerdo

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:17 am Click here to edit this post
HUH????

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:19 am Click here to edit this post
Laf again very good points. I don't like this!

Nikkid

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:23 am Click here to edit this post
The rules did not mention sexual fantasies, but they DID in fact mention not chatting unless designated. Talisker was warned by Roger so she is twice guilty, but honestly folks - who here thinks all three did not read the rules, I believe most of us not in the game did, so why would they be oblivious? Digi - I'm in total agreement.

PS - to help the ot readers, the red rocket rider was a sex phone operator.

Whit4you

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:26 am Click here to edit this post
My thoughts - they are progressing as I see this all going "down"

It's very clear that Vykin did not seem to grasp the concept that chatting amongst themselves outside "The Game" is not a huge problem or a clear breaking of the rules. Why do I say this? becasue his concern here is with ArReal disclosing private information about those private conversations, and also he seems to have no problem mentioning his other Private conversations he's had.

I think the same holds true for ArReal her problem doesnt seem to be with Tali breaking the rules by having private conversations - but with the stuff she says during those conversations. In addition - she's sending private messages to at least one other player even still.

Now here's my thoughts on this.

I know based on a conversation with Roger - that Tali KNEW clearly that having private chats outside the house would be cheating - I will post the chats that I am referring to on this thread asap.

Now - I've re-read the rules a # of times and unfortunately I think at least ArReal and VYkin can and maybe should be able to claim that they thought talking "in the chat room" meant only the chat room on TVclubhouse.com - both of them know what big brother was all about. Saw hundreds of times when a houseguest was attempting to say something in private being told to put their mics on, know that even the toilet was bugged in case they decided to go there to have a private chat.

They all know I believe that it is totally against the spirit of the game - but based on the convo's they are having, I do not believe those two were blatantly trying to break the rules. Because if they were why would either of them be going on and on about something that happened WHILE they were breaking those rules.

Tali however knew - she was blatantly breaking the rules, had tried and tried to get Roger to go private and chat where "we" couldn't see it. She was told then by Roger it was against the rules and he refused to break them. She then convinced two others (or more who knows?) to break the rules with her, from their conversations I don't think she made it clear to them that it would be totally against the rules.

I get the impression she went on and on about this chat being "secret" but the impression I get is that they thought the secret was "her identity" and not the fact that they were breaking the rules.

I think Neil or someone needs to make it clear IMMEDIATELY that anyone wishing to remain in the game should have NO contact outside "the game" with any other player - or participant in this game except the Host.

Personally I think that Tali should be disqualified - and that the 6 remaining houseguests should be able to vote anonymously as to if they think Vykin and ArReal should be disqualified - based only on the facts presented IN the house itself (the posts they can see)

Whit

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:28 am Click here to edit this post
To me a question is why would they go into a private chat with her. Did they suspect she was a moderator or host and had important information for them and so they should follow her?