Topic # 3 - Eyes Wide Shut

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Not all of us saw this controversial last movie from Stanley Kubrick, but we know something about it based on the media coverage. Several explicit scenes were the main focus of the controversy because they dealt with orgies.

The Love Bed hasn't quite heated up to this level yet, but what if it did? Would you participate or find a cozy, private place on the couch and try to sleep? What if you found out that a co-worker regularly attended orgies? Would it change the way you interact with that person? What if he or she invited you to attend? Would you go? Would you go alone or take your spouse/significant other with you? What if you did participate and other co-workers found out? Would you care?

Not everyone can look like Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. However, if you were guaranteed that all the participants did look that good, would it change your mind about joining in?

Oh, my! We're getting mental images now and we're not sure if we like them or not! We just know we can't stop watching!!! :)

Moondance

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 02:41 pm Click here to edit this post
I am in general a very generous person but their are limits to my sharing. I do not think I would be comfortable with sharing a partner on an intimate level. I pretty much want to be number one to them and vise versa. Usually this doesn't leave much room for number 3 -? This doesn't mean that I haven't had fantasies of a threesome or other but I am comfortable with leaving it as that. Sometimes you just have to keep them in that fantasy form because it would be as fun ... of course there are some that must come true.... Role playing ... toys... Okay, you get my drift.

As far as the participants look ... well when you are in the true passion of it ... does that really matter? It's talent not looks at that point!

Let me think some more on this...

Roger_Ramjet

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 03:08 pm Click here to edit this post
"The Love Bed hasn't quite heated up to this level yet, but what if it did? Would you participate or find a cozy, private place on the couch and try to sleep?"

I wouldn't participate--I'd be in my bed. (as far as I know the love bed is in the girl's BR?) If it as in the guy's BR, I'd go somewhere else. Orgies are not for me. I'm strictly a one-one-one type of person when it comes to sex.

"What if you found out that a co-worker regularly attended orgies?"

Hey, if it works for them, that's what counts. I would be curious about a number of things (concerning how they feel), although would not bring it up in the work place unless they offered information on their own and seemed to want to talk about it.

"Would it change the way you interact with that person?"

No--I've actually had this come up. For the question above, I did not discuss it with them, as they seemed to want to not go into it any more than it had happened.

"What if he or she invited you to attend? Would you go?

I'd politely decline and state my reasons, letting them know that my reasons are for me only--not trying to put them onto someone else.

"What if you did participate and other co-workers found out? Would you care?"

I'm not sure what to answer--since I said I wouldn't, yet the question says I did go. If I did go (even though I really wouldn't), since I try very hard to keep my work life and my non-work life separate, I'd not want this to get out. Not because of what it's about--hell, I don't say anything about my non-work activities during work.

"However, if you were guaranteed that all the participants did look that good, would it change your mind about joining in?"

Nope, I wouldn't change my mind. For me, looks have little to do with sex. I base how I feel about a person with little regard to looks. Since I base having sex with a woman on how I feel about her, then looks are not an issue. For me, sensuality and sexuality have little to do with physical appreance.

Himay10ns

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 03:33 pm Click here to edit this post
The Love Bed hasn't quite heated up to this level yet, but what if it did? Would you participate or find a cozy, private place on the couch and try to sleep? As far as the Love Bed is concerned, I do love affection but I am a very light sleeper. I have slept alone for 36 years and think it's best I keep it that way in the Play Room.

What if you found out that a co-worker regularly attended orgies? Would it change the way you interact with that person? No

What if he or she invited you to attend? Would you go? Would you go alone or take your spouse/significant other with you? What if you did participate and other co-workers found out? Would you care? I wouldn't participate, so the rest of the questions don't apply

Not everyone can look like Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. However, if you were guaranteed that all the participants did look that good, would it change your mind about joining in? I have to agree with Roger on this one when he says that sensuality and sexuality have little to do with appearance

Sorry this is so mundane, but you have to know a little about the way I was brought up. I was born in a small town in Alabama and my father was an officer in the military. I lived a rather sheltered life, most of which was spent on military bases. I've been in the southeast all my life and most of what I have experienced has been rather conservative. At present, I live in Arkansas and haven't seen or heard much about orgies since I've been here. LOL Oh, and by the way, I rented Eyes Wide Shut and I turned it off after the first 30 minutes and returned it to the video store. Just a little too weird to me. I couldn't get into it.

Luke

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 03:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Hmmm... okay... um... how do I phrase this...?

Luke

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 04:04 pm Click here to edit this post
Well, in response to this question, please allow me to say the following...
Having grown up in a very Catholic household, I think I was pretty traditionally-minded whe I was in my teens, and I used to put a high value on traditional sexual relationships. Coming out DRASTICALLY changed my views on sex (as well as what turns me on sexually).
Not to get into too much detail, I've done a lot of different kinds of sexual things, and after my 27 short years on this planet, all I'm sure of is simply to be careful not to judge others, LEAST of all on what turns them on sexually.

Arreal

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 04:13 pm Click here to edit this post
The Love Bed hasn't quite heated up to this level yet, but what if it did? Would you participate or find a cozy, private place on the couch and try to sleep?

I would not join in on an orgy here on the board.
I might be willing to cozy up with one person in here on the couch while reading, talking or watching tv. Last night, I had a desire to crawl into bed with a BG who was already asleep. I would have kept my clothes on. I think it would be amusing to see their reaction to me in bed with them when they woke up.
There would be no cyber horizontal hula going on.

What if you found out that a co-worker regularly attended orgies? Would it change the way you interact with that person?

I would be curious about it and if we were close enough friends I would ask them questions to understand what they find in it. It would not change my opinion nor my interactions with them. I would think to myself "weird" though. (Weird in an interesting way, not a judgmental way)

What if he or she invited you to attend? Would you go? Would you go alone or take your spouse/significant other with you? What if you did participate and other co-workers found out? Would you care?

I would not participate. Next question...what if I did participate...I would care if co-workers found out. I would be horrified that I did. I would be ashamed of myself and wouldn't want people to know what I did.

Not everyone can look like Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. However, if you were guaranteed that all the participants did look that good, would it change your mind about joining in?

Not a chance. Looks are surface. IMO sex is for two people in love to share. Love knows beauty of the heart, not of the surface.

Mantastic

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 05:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Ah-ha. An interesting, question--finally. No pilots and fields.

I have been involved in multiple partnerings all at once before, more than once, and probably would again. Depends on who, where, and what mood I'm in.

I would pursue whatever I felt like doing, and regret nothing. I am easily able to say no, if it doesn't feel right, and I won't bloody lie to you--a lot of that's based on looks. Not Cindy Crawford/GQ type looks--if what the world considers a total ghoul has enough oomph/personal style/captivation factor for me, then sure, I'd be intimate with them.

Regret nothing. Fall hard.

Style is everything. Everything else is secondary. I think morals are highly scaleable. I don't care about anybody else's convictions of right and wrong, outside of the bed, the room, the reality I and the other person (or people) are creating.

Xenia

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 05:31 pm Click here to edit this post
"Not all of us saw this controversial last movie from Stanley Kubrick, but we know something about it based on the media coverage."

--I saw the movie and it was so disappointing. All the media hype made it out to be something it really wasn't.

"The Love Bed hasn't quite heated up to this level yet, but what if it did? Would you participate or find a cozy, private place on the couch and try to sleep?"

--I'd laugh, roll my eyes and take my comforter and pillow and go sleep on the couch. Considering the posts I've read here so far, watching an orgy here would be more comical than sexually arousing for me.

"What if you found out that a co-worker regularly attended orgies? Would it change the way you interact with that person?"

--Yeah it would change the way I interacted with that person--for awhile--because I'd feel conflicted. I'd want to ask them a million questions and find out why they participate in orgies. When I was around them I'd be trying to envision what they do at these orgies and a million questions would come to mind every time. But I wouldn't know whether asking would be appropriate. That all would wear off after awhile though and I wouldn't care either way.

"What if he or she invited you to attend? Would you go?"

--I wouldn't go to an orgy, but I would organize my own. One of the things I absolutely want to do one day is have, like, 4 guys in a room having sex with just me being the only female. I could really get into that.

"Would you go alone or take your spouse/significant other with you?"

--If I had a "significant other" I wouldn't go to an orgy. When there's love involved and I'm watching the person I love having sex with another person, that would upset me.

"What if you did participate and other co-workers found out? Would you care?"

--If I was working at Starbucks or some place like that, I wouldn't give a shit. If I was the vice president of AT&T I would.

"Not everyone can look like Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. However, if you were guaranteed that all the participants did look that good, would it change your mind about joining in?"

--Not under these circumstances.

Talisker

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 10:05 pm Click here to edit this post
I did not see this movie. Didn’t look like the plot would interest me.

The Love Bed hasn't quite heated up to this level yet, but what if it did? Would you participate or find a cozy, private place on the couch and try to sleep?

I don’t think I would participate. I don’t share men. I am selfish enough to want all the attention for myself and not to have any other distractions so I can concentrate on the man I am with. I would probably go find somewhere else to sleep.

What if you found out that a co-worker regularly attended orgies? Would it change the way you interact with that person? What if he or she invited you to attend?

I can’t say . . . I don’t know anyone that has attended an orgy. Well, at least nobody that has fessed up to it. I do have a friend who went on a campout for swingers. He and his wife did not participate though. I don’t think I would be comfortable in an environment where you screw around with someone you don’t know. Don’t get me wrong, I like sex – a lot – but without feelings from both partners, it is meaningless. I like just having one partner at a time

Would you go? Would you go alone or take your spouse/significant other with you? What if you did participate and other co-workers found out? Would you care?

I wouldn’t go. And, if I did, I would hate it if anyone found out.


Not everyone can look like Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. However, if you were guaranteed that all the participants did look that good, would it change your mind about joining in?

I don’t think that looks are as important as feelings and how you get treated. Some of the most beautiful people can have the coldest hearts. Good grooming is important though. But, even if all the participants were good looking, I would pass on this event. I only want one person that wants me. No sharing.

Vykin

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 10:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes, I saw the Eyes Wide Shut, as well as the rest of Kubrick's movies. I think, those who thought the movie would be a climactic experience as with a porn movie, were highly disappointed. For me, Kubrick stepped into the most inner, private, perverse sanctum of every human's mind. He dared to step into the vault of one the darkest parts of our mind, unlock the door, we so cleverly guard, he stepped inside our brains, grabbed our private most inner thoughts and fantasies about sexuality, and forced us to watch them thru the lens of a camera.
Big "H" raises interesting questions, which I believe were ones we all asked ourselves if we saw the movie. They are disturbing questions most
people don't like to have to ask themselves about themselves. Sometimes its almost "shameful" to even think about things like orgies, simply based on what ever religious upbringing a person has had. (i.e.: same as when arreal told us her ex-husband was raised to think same sex is evil)
Kubrick took the viewers on a disturbing psychological trip of their own minds.

Eyes Wide Shut is the: Sodom and Gomorrah of our minds. Do we want to go back there? Most of us humans are afraid to ask ourselves the question.

Now, at the risk of sounding "Mantastic", I will succinctly respond to Big H's questions:
1. So what
2. Find a quiet place to sleep
3. Wouldn't matter
4. Possibly
5/6/7 No
8. I wouldn't
9. I'd care
10 Not worried bout my looks - I look good
but even if I didn't, wudn't matter
11 Wouldn't change my mind

I suppose the only other comment I have is those would participate in orgies need to do so for the right reasons. Myself, I prefer a monogamous sexual relationship.

Zebulon

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 11:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Due to technical difficulties beyond my control and the fact that Java sometimes sucks total ass, my thorough answer to this discussion topic has found it's way into the Lockup Void after trying to post the message.

I'll reformulate my thoughts and try to repost on Mon.

<grabs a drink of water and heads to bed>

Roger_Ramjet

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 11:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Zeb--sorry to hear that happened. I look forward to your thoughts on it. You've always got something good to say!! Or at lest you say it well!! lol

Roger_Ramjet

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 11:08 pm Click here to edit this post
SHIT--least, not lest! damn

Zebulon

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 11:28 pm Click here to edit this post
<walks back in again>

Yeah, it sucks but it's not the end of the world.

Oh, by the way, a new room has been created under Requests. LOL!

<grabs another drink of water and laughs as it squirts out his nose then heads back to bed>

Zebulon

Monday, October 09, 2000 - 12:59 pm Click here to edit this post
<Ok, let me try this again without the technical difficulties>

Personal sexual relationships are very private to me but I will share what I feel comfortable with. In my life, I have had meaningful sex and I have had meaningless sex (once). I say once because it didn't involve any emotion and was basically a mutual masturbation session...to put it bluntly. It wasn't a feeling I was used to and it didn't feel right within my being. Meaningful sex for me contains emotion and respect and a deep feeling inside that is just pure bliss between both partners. It's really indescribable.

To me, an orgy would be nothing more than the empty feeling I described above. I am also very careful to protect my personal sexual health and I really don't see an orgy as an acceptable environment when it comes to that, even if condoms were handed out at the door. How many of those have broken in the past? I don't have time to gather up personal medical records of each of these individuals involved. It's too risky and I can't see myself ever participating.


If I found out that a co-worker regularly attended orgies, I wouldn't be judgmental. What they do on their own time is their business. Since I've never personally attended an orgy and I have a natural curiousity, I would probably have some questions to ask the person but I wouldn't attend if asked to go, especially if I was in any kind of relationship. If the person I was involved with wanted to attend, I would have to seriously question the strength of our relationship. I would also realize she is an adult and old enough to make her own decisions and also old enough to handle the potential consequences.

If I was to decide to participate and my co-workers found out, there's not a whole hell of a lot I can do about it at that point anyway so why worry about it? I would not care. It would be wasted energy on something that's already done.


<then I get hit with the zinger question>

If I was single, horny, and decided to attend an orgy with Nicole Kidman type girls humping their brains out and one was to come over to me and ask my to join in then I would definitely have to think about reconsidering everything I said above. It would be the ultimate fantasy. <smile> But, it still would be an empty emotionless experience with possible health risks. If I was truly interested in getting to know her, I'd ask her to get out of there and go on a real date. As for the orgy, I'd have to decline. (knock on wood)

<no pun intended.....ok, well, maybe a little)

Zebulon

Monday, October 09, 2000 - 01:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Let me add to this that an orgy on this board is just a fantasy situation. It's not real life. A fantasy orgy seems harmless to me...although I've never participated in one of those either.

There's just something about a meaningful sexual relationship that makes cybersex seem like a waste of time. No offense.

Talisker

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 01:07 pm Click here to edit this post
In case anyone is interested - the sizzling box office burner, Eyes Wide Shut starting Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, is playing on your loacal Home Box Office (HBO) tonight. I can't be sure of the times but I think that it is one HBO at 9 pm and HBOw at Midnight and then will repeat itself later in the evening/early morning hours.

Think I'll pass on this one and instead, check out Gabriel Byrne's smoldering good looks in Stigmata on Showtime.

Roger_Ramjet

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 01:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Tali--caught you when it's legal for me to see a post!! You coming over to help with the challenge??? {{{Tali}}} Damn good to see you. If you've been reading messages you know how I feel about you or any other moderator playing. You also know I feel about you specifically playing....so, you joining in??!!

Talisker

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 04:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Hi Roger! - I just posted in the challenge folder. Except for my Tali folder, I haven't really read any messages yet. But thanks for the hug! Appreciate it! :) A lot!

Hope you don't hold all that snuggling with Vykin the other night against me! He was just trying to give me a hand. (And what a nice hand it was!)
He's pretty rascally though - told me he was going to bail me out and left me hanging with that silly fountain in the church situation. Can't believe I came up with Xenia's little red dildo! My bad!

Roger_Ramjet

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 04:51 pm Click here to edit this post
Tali, you can snuggle with whoever you want!! I could see Vyk being a rascal!

Are you going ot post a new profile to for the non-mole player, or was that one for the real you, and you juat played with the Ryder name??