Serial Killers - What do we Think?

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Vykin

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 11:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Arreal, I hope u can add to this about Robert Yates. For other game players, Robert Yates is a serial killer from Spokane, Wash. where Arreal lives.
What do we think possesses them to do multiple murders? What should be done with them? Thoughts, Opinions, even experiences in regard to them.

Zebulon

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 11:12 pm Click here to edit this post
Xenia should be good at this. She's a serial killer in the making...admitting she wants to stalk people down.

Vykin

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 12:19 am Click here to edit this post
lol zeb, perhaps that one should go under the true real life stories folder

Arreal

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 10:26 am Click here to edit this post
Yesterday in court Robert Yates plead guilty to 13 counts of murder. He avoided the death penalty by pleading guilty and helping the police locate and recover a girl buried in his front yard. He is still accused of the murders of two other girls in the Seattle area and may still get the death penalty over there.

Most of his victims were local prostitutes and drug addicts.

I was actually talking to my hubby last night about this. I think it would be amazing to get into Mr. Yates' head. What made him do this? The murders weren't as in the case with Dahmer, the girls weren't 'tortured' or beaten. They were all prostitutes. This doesn't make the murders easier to take, but it does make me wonder why? He didn't seem psychotic, or angry.

While Yates was giving his guilty plea he was trembling and shed tears. Was this remorse?

I find that Yates is more disturbing to me than killers like Dahmer because Yates seems sane. I realize there is something seriously wrong with the man, but it is harder to put a finger on it.

I don't know why he did it and I doubt we ever will. Did he choose prostitutes to 'rid his town of scum?' Was he on a 'mission from god?' How crazy or insane is he?

A few years back I was very worried about a friend that I grew up with in Montana. She moved her and became a prostitute and got addicted to heroine. I didn't have much contact at the time, but I did think about her and worry, knowing a seriel killer was out there. She actually told me she wasn't worried about it, she was safe.

Yates will spend the rest of his life in prison if he doesn't get the death penalty for the other two murders. For me, that is just punishment. I do hope that he is not transferred to an out of state prison though. Yates was a prison gaurd here in Spokane County, let him serve his term here.

Vykin

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 12:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanx arreal for posting it. As arreal said, Yates, on surface appeared sane, he was married had 4 kids I think, Killed over 20+people. He has plea bargained.

In the late 70's, early 80s, (I forget but it was when Ted Bundy was arrested). Anyways, a female friend, Jill, of mine went with her best girlfriend, I call her Sara, on a road trip to California. On the way back, they stopped in a small town in Oregon. They checked into a motel and went to a local pub or lounge for a drink. My friends friend was a little bit "psychic" she would get premonitions that most often were very accurate. They sat chatting, in walked a man. Sara turns to Jill and says, "gee, i just got a really cold feeling", they continue their drinks. At some point, the man who walked in wander over to the two girls and began a conversation. Sara began feeling cold sweats, felt something very strongly not right. The man was good looking, charming, nothing in his conversation to indicate he was anything but pleasant. Jill notices Sara's demeanor has changed to nervousness. Jill is used to "seeing the signs" in Sara. Jill spoke with the man a bit longer and they made excuses and left. (He had asked whether they were from the town, etc.)

They get outside the pub, (Sara grabs Jill and says, Let's get the hell outta here." They ran to their motel, not far from the pub. Jill is trying to ask Sara, whats wrong. Sara is saying, "Quick, lets get our suitcases, we are leaving this town!, we can't stay here, I'll explain when we are gone". (It was close to 1am).
Jill listened to Sara. They left the town and drove a 100 miles into the late night, till Sara finally said, "Okay, I feel its safe for us to stop and rest in another town".

Then Sara told Jill. She said, when the man came in the lounge, I got a freezing cold come over me, I FELT evil, evil presence like I've never felt before." Sara continued, "There is something about that man that frightened me like I've never been frightened before."

Now, they concluded their trip home. The subject pushed to the backs of their minds.

Now skip forward a few years, I am working with Jill by now. Previously she had regaled us with stories of her friend Sara, and some of her premonitions, but not this particular one. One day, lunch time, Jill went out to do some errands. She comes back to work, nearly runs into the office. Jill has a copy of Cosmopolitan Magazine in her hands. She can barely breath she's talking real fast.

That copy of Cosmo, had a feature article in it on Ted Bundy who by the mid 80's had been arrested as a serial killer. It had a picture of him. THE MAN WAS THE SAME MAN WHO JILL AND SARA HAD ENCOUNTERED YEARS BEFORE.

I thought it was an incredible amazing story, and it is true. This was the first time Ted Bundy's photo had appeared that Jill or Sara wud have seen. They had remembered clearly Bundy's face when they had left the town in Oregon, those few years before.

Jill also checked further and saw that around the time they had been thru Oregon, one or more of his murders of the college co-eds had occured.

Moondance

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 12:52 pm Click here to edit this post
Wow Vy... that's amazing... I love it when people listen to their intuitions... I am sure Sara & Jill are glad too!

This subject is fascinating to me ...

Vykin

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 01:42 pm Click here to edit this post
Moon, me too, gotta fight battle for zeb rite now in abuse folder, but will be back to post thoughts later.

Moondance

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 01:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Vy... I just went back and read your post in Zeb's folder... you are eally good with getting your feelings across.... I agree with what you said... makes one think about stepping up when we see abuse...r