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Noslonna | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 01:24 am  Topic # 7 - Banished Players Luke Tues Oct 24 - 10:59 pm I just got done reading the 5 minute chat conversation with Zeb. He came across as concerned about us in here. I think that's good. I'm not quite sure if Xenia would have done the same. Therefore, I don't think she would have been as good or as objective a choice as Zeb was to chat with. As for Tali -- the more info we get from the outside -- through banners or through chats, or through Zeb this evening -- I guess that people didn't like the idea of a Mole or someone with a double identity here. Therefore, it was fitting that she be banished first. The success of this game lies in the hands of the outside viewers. I feel the worst about the two that walked out by themselves -- Arreal and Mantastic. I say that because I am having the time of my life in here and I would have liked them to have experienced this to the fullest as well. If they're happy with their decision to leave -- that's cool too. I'm glad the other HG's chatted with Zeb and I am really sorry I missed it. He sounds like a real cool guy. Topic # 8 - Fly on the Wall Luke Tues Oct 24 - 11:04 pm If I were a fly on the wall, I would love to fly into the secret quarters of a select few (mostly bishops and cardinals) who live in the Vatican. I think the Vatican is a strong hold of so many secrets, conspiracies, and scandals... and have only been successful in hiding everything through the blind faith of so many people. I believe that religion has a lot of control over people. I've experienced that control first hand, and I've also seen how that "power" can be abused. It is this same power that has hidden and continues to hide many secrets from the billions of believers. Discussions: Dr. Kevorkian Discussion suggested by Zeb in Live Chat and started by Moon. Moondance Tues Oct 24 - 8:27 pm I will come back and post but wanted to post the topic ... compliments of Zebulon! Vykin Tues Oct 24 - 9:04 pm Dr. Kevorkian has left the building. His last known whereabouts were that he is in jail. Oh oh -- hold on, perhaps he hasn't left the building, we too are in jail. Could it be Dr. Death is in this same prison block as us? Moondance Tues Oct 24 - 11:17 pm I don't feel he should be in Jail. That said... waiting for backlash. After you have witnessed a death from suffering, first hand, it doesn't surprise me that someone would make this choice. I have talked about my Father and his death. My Mom followed his wishes. He choose to die at home. He might have lived a few more months in the hospital but wasn't that his choice. It was completely his right to make this decision about his last few days on this earth and he had the right to choose what quality of life meant to him. I also lost my Grandmother last year. She talked about Dr. Kevorkian many times but he just represented to us & to herself, she was ready to let go. She also suffered too much for one person. So, I have empathy -- sympathy for patients and their families that are suffering and are in this position. Who am I to say what their quality of life is or is not? I don't know if I would be brave enough to choose this nor do I know what I would have done in My Mom's position. It was one of the most unselfish acts I know. As his daughter I wanted him to be around as long as he possibly could have. I look back and I thank my Mom for having the courage and strength to follow through for my Father. I Love & miss you Daddy. I love you so much Mom, both are my Angels, Topic # 9 - Inferiority Complex Luke Tues Oct 24 - 11:18 pm I took the IQ test. I scored 130 something. I didn't put a lot of effort into it and I still scored genius level. Don't think I'm another Einstein or something cuz I'm really not (I know, hard to believe, huh? hehehe) This is one of a dozen IQ tests I've taken in my life, so they tend to get boring. I even had the opportunity to take a whole battery of IQ tests as the guinea pig for a friend of mine getting his PhD in psychology, and still he said the results wouldn't be 100% accurate. I've seen people suffer from a wide array of inferiority complexes for various reasons. I think what makes a person stand out, what is admirable about a person, more than that person's intelligence . . . is that person's ability to appreciate himself in light of the fact that they are both superior and inferior to others. Everyone has different gifts. Everyone has different disabilities. A teacher in high school said something that has stuck with me throughout the years, "It is sad to see so many people who are content with mediocrity." That sentence sticks in my mind when I get into a competitive mood and continues to challenge me to do better. It is a healthy thing to continually seek a balance between striving for something better and also being at peace with what one already is or has. Discussions: Birth Date Tree Started by Moondance. She gives list of birthdates and the associated tree and it's meaning. Luke Tues Oct 24 - 11:39 pm Fig Tree [the Sensibility] Very strong, a bit self-willed, independent, does not allow contradiction or arguments, loves life, its family, children and animals, a bit of a butterfly, good sense of humor, likes idleness and laziness, of practical talent and intelligence. hmmm... i LOVE laziness! hehehehe... practical talent? well... i guess music is practical... Love children... love animals... not bad! it's pretty much on track... |
Noslonna | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 01:28 am  Tuesday, October 24 Challenge 8 - Guessing Game Answers and Winner 1. --I'm allergic to spearmint. --My favorite TV Channel is the Food Network. --I skipped second grade. HiMay10ns aka Dilligaf 2. --My real life name is posted somewhere in the playroom by someone other than myself. (Another game player) --I once lost a child. --I was stopped for speeding once by the police and wearing nothing but a bathrobe which unknown to me came undone. Vykin aka Optics 3.-- I hate the sound of other people brushing their teeth --I was trapped in a garage metal gate. It closed on my body. --I played in little league - catcher ... because I had a catcher's mitt given to me by my Aunt personally signed by Johnny Bench ... she was dating him at the time. Moondance aka Zelda 4.-- I haven't seen many popular movies like ET, Jaws, Star Wars (any episode), or even Gone With the Wind. --I sleep in the nude (it feels uncomfortable with clothes on!) --I am scared to death of spiders. Can't stand them, never could. I go ballistic if I accidentally walk into a spider web. They're the most horrifying creatures on this planet. Luke aka Kino1234 5. --My second toes are the exact same length as my pinky fingers. --I am half Russian, my father was from Russia. --I am a P.A.D.I. certified SCUBA diver. Roger_Ramjet aka LanceCrossfire Host: Roger - 1 correct (#5) Moondance - 2 correct (#3,5) HiMay - 2 correct (#1,5) Luke - 3 correct (#1,3,4) Vykin - 5 correct !!! All Players correctly guessed who each other were - good job everyone! Vykin - your prize for a perfect score will be announced in the Chat Room tonight. [Vykin's prize announced in Chat was an extra 15 minutes in chat after the other BGs had to leave. He choose to use the time to let viewers ask him questions.] Challenge 9 - Rock the Vote New Challenge This is a 2-part challenge. Once the first part is completed, you'll receive additional instructions. It's election season and the next U.S. President isn't the only thing being decided. The Game has it's own set of "initiatives" that need to be decided! Following is your ballot. Please vote for one Player in each category. Players you vote for must still be part of The Game; you cannot vote for banished Players. You can vote for yourself, if you're so inclined. You can also vote for the same Player in multiple categories. Sorry, but abstaining isn't allowed. You must cast a vote in every category. When you've made your selections, please copy the categories into an email, with a Player's name next to each, and send it to the Host no later than 6:00 p.m. PST Wednesday.- Which Player has the best sense of humor?
- What Player would you most like to meet in real life?
- What Player has been the most open about his/herself?
- Who has been the most guarded?
- Which Player seems to be the most even-tempered?
- Who seems to be the most volatile?
- Who seems to be the oddest?
- Which Player do you think is most gullible?
- Which Player posts too often?
- Who posts too little?
- Whose posts ramble the most?
- Whose posts are the most succint?
- What Player do you think has the most interesting real life?
- Which Player do you think will be part banished next? (We know two Players will be banished. We just want to know who you think one of those will be.)
- Which Player do you think will win?
Banner: WARNING BGS - ANNAGATOR VOWS, "I WILL FINGER THE MOLE" |
Noslonna | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 03:02 am  Tuesday, October 24 Living Room Moondance 7:20 pm That was fun! Roger Yes, it was! You and May are just little vixens! Himay Did you see the new banner? Moondance Zeb took control. I love smart men. Such a turn on! Himay Moon, time for our evil laugh!! Muuaaahhhhaa!! Roger Yes, I saw that. Did you see what I just called you and Moon? For the record, Kearie gave me her email address -- I wanted to ask her about her leaving. I wanted to do it away from the game. I won't contact her till AFTER I'm out. Himay Guess we'll wait on Vyk. He's probably asking more questions about the IM -- Mole issue. Moondance Muuuuaaahhaaa with May! Sure Rabbit, you are the Mole aren't you? Roger Moon -- I feel a "bite me" coming on! Moondance LOL, FH. Not the 'B' word! Himay 7:30 pm If Roger's the Mole, he's doing a sh*tty job at it! LOL Roger I hope Vyk gets that issue put to rest. Himay Man, Gator didn't waste any time! Anyone seen Vy? Moondance May... LOL Roger you have an answer to give so we can get the game started. Roger I missed that about Gator -- what???? Vykin Hi folks I'm back. I have sent an email to the Host to request that Host post the full chat transcript in our house. Also I have asked to post the transcript for the 5 minutes I had alone. I don't want anything hidden from any of you. I am waiting to see if its possible. Now I'll catch up and join in. Roger 7:35 pm I have an answer to a type of question he was going to ask... he said he had questions to ask. I don't know what the are yet. Himay Check your email Roger! He's already asking about the chat. Roger Oh, ok! Got it! Himay So the last banner? Annagator is going to point out the mole? Is there a mole? Anybody want to fess up? Roger I have nothing to fess up about -- although I've got this wound that is festering --- wanna see the puss???????? haha Vykin I don't know why it keeps eating at me but it's really wearing at me. When Host didn't respond to Rogers request, I just had a feeling Arreal might be saying something that I can't respond to. Thats why I asked the question to zeb. It seems I was right. I think we ALL know that Arreal was angry at me and vice versa. Himay 7:45 pm Vyk... you know the truth. Don't listen to what the others are saying. If you are playing by the rules, then this is a dead issue. Right? Vykin Oh god, I just saw the new banner, who is Annagator? I Am NOT a MOLE, I'll take a lie detector test if I have to! (Sorry folks, I got news today of a friend who is riddled with cancer, it wasn't a good start to my day! I'm feeling wiped by an 'unknown force' on the outside.) Only good thing today was I won the challenge. Even I didn't know what the reward would be. But when they flooded me with additional questions about Arreal, I could see there is some battle on the outside that she is waging against me. Okay trying to refocus. How about if we each said how we came to our conclusions on the challenge? Roger Hey Vyk---did you feel you got your concerns addressed to your satisfaction during your extra minutes???? You seemed pretty worried? Vykin Roger, yes, I too am human after a while it wears at a person. Okay what about my idea. Do each of us want to say how we thought the topics matched to the person? and even tell or talk about our "secrets" in the challenge? Himay I posted my conclusions earlier. I thought Moon lost the child, Luke played Little League and Vyk hated spiders. boy was I wrong! LOL Oh, and I know Annagator. She's tons of fun and very sweet. You never know about the banners, they could be lies! [ed. :o)] Moondance Sorry it wearing on you Vy. You really don't need anything more on your plate! Roger Vyk -- I thought Moon had her real name revealed by someone during BB and thought that the basesball glove thing was either Moon or May -- so I picked May for the glove and Moon for the name being revealed. Figured it was you that hated spiders. Figured eith Luke oor May for the food channel, although had May already in the glove -- so picked Luke for the food channel. That will teach me!! Moondance I did so bad on this. I thought spider was Vy because of obvious reasons so I almost changed that but then May's name has been said in other threads. I thought for sure Luke would list an allergy since he talked about allergies. urrghh Roger mentioned Russian dressing so... Vykin Okay here's how I did it: First I went back to original folders, (I guess thats why the Arreal thing ate at me cuz I re-read some earlier posts) anyways, I knew they had to be secrets. So the spider thing was out. I knew Moon talked about an Aunt, so I put two and two together, plus Moon had said she was a tomboy in younger years. Luke, seemed logical never talked about well known movies. I got mixed up between Himay and Roger. I had you switched originally cuz in kitchen Roger referred to spices for prime rib. Then bingo, I read bathroom threads, realized Roger made an odd comment about his toes. So there it was. Roger Vyk -- wow, that was great!! excellent job!! Moondance You are brilliant! That is great Vy. Vykin I was checking the emails from interrogator, I got two of them. The second one is lengthy. Okay Roger, further, the Russian issue, when I first saw that I thought wow, I knew I said I spoke fluent Russian and that wasn't my secret. I figured that's you because 2 years ago a group of rotary students came from Kemchatka to my area and they had (a dance troupe) just come from performing in cities around where you live. I figured there may be a Russian speaking population there. Roger 8:20 pm There are a couple of Russian speaking folks in the community, although they are scientists here at work! haha. You said you had questions to ask me??? Vykin 8:19 pm Okay my turn last correct? Roger I told you I was gonna ask you about your possible belief in god so I will ask you: What are your religious beliefs or spiritual values, and do they play a significant role in your life? Roger Sorry about the above!! First, yes, my beliefs are important to me... as are everyone else's. I prepared an answer last night, so can copy it over and not take too long as not much to change based on what you just asked. I would like to say -- 1) it's long--a conversation is included as part of what I want to say. 2) it may cause some problems beacuse it's a bit out of te norm from waht you folks haves said about your beliefs (they wanted me to be more controversial!) Vykin Roger, screw the outsiders, I am honestly interested in hearing. I await your response. Roger Well, you raise a heck of a question. To answer it though -- no, I don't believe in God. I don't believe there is a supreme being out there watching over us. So, you might ask, what do I believe in?? A fair question! I believe in me!!! I mentioned awhile back that I put myself through this self acceptance exercise quite sometime ago. Out of that I came to be a person who decided to believe in himself--and what comes with that. Include with that is being responsible for what I do and how it affects everyone and everything. I go to bed with that each night. Now, let me explain a couple of things. First, my views are for me ONLY! I don't go preaching my way of living being right for anyone else. I will share, as I'm doing with you now. I look to the person to see what I feel about them. Their religion is less important to me than if they live it. I respect someone who follows whatever set of rules they believe in. That is why I step into the church here -- because of the messages -- not who's name they are in. I will not burn if I say God or Jesus. For me, God is my own mind -- and so is the Devil. I am good and evil -- or the potential for each. I have a story to relate as an example of how I'm looked at for my beliefs. this is by far not the worst I've been treated, although it does provide an insight into how many view me. When going to school, I worked full time in a local grocery store. This was a family owned store, this family was Catholic. One of the sons managed and the mother/father owned it and worked the check stand or stocked once in awhile. Jack, the owner, was doing stock with us one night and we were on the same isle. He asked what religion I believed in and I told him I an atheist. He just stopped dead in his track, put his case of stock down, and came over to me. He said to me, "Wow I never new that about you. I've got to ask -- why is it that you don't back your car up in the middle of the night, use your key to get in, open the safe, take all the money, and all the food you can fit in your car, and drive off?" I said, "Huh??" He said, "Well, if you don't believe in God you don't believe in heaven or hell either, right?" I said, "No, I don't believe in either of those." He then said, "Well how is it you avoid doing these things, since you have no incentive to do the right things in life so you can get to heaven?" I asked him, "So, what you do in your life is for the purpose of getting to heaven?" He said, "Well of course -- that's where all people who believe in God want to go! If you don't believe in God, where do you think you go after you die?" I answered, "I believe that when I die that will be it -- I'm a big electrical cell -- my body is electrically run. When I die, I'm basically a discharged capacitor, or a drained battery. My energy will just dissipate -- become random like so much of the energy is around us." He looked so worried, as he said, "Well now I really don't understand how it is you don't back up to my store and do all the things I said and worse. You have nothing to get to that requires good behavior in life." I said, Well, have you seen me do anything wrong yet?" "No" he said "and why is that?" Well, I said, "It's really pretty easy. I have a set of rules for myself just like you do. After all, that's what a religion really is -- a set of rules by which to live life by. I do the right things because I believe they are right. I take responsibility for the rules I set for myself -- and hold no one else at fault for them or what I do in terms of them. It's all on me for the rules I made for myself." He said, "So you can do nice things and do them believing you can't go to heaven?" "Yes" I said. He reply, "I just don't understand how anyone can do the right things without a reward for doing them -- it just doesn't make sense." I said, "No problem Jack, I don't expect anyone to understand or believe what I believe in. I just hope that I am judged by people by my words and my actions during the course of my life -- for I feel that is what's important while we are alive." He says, "Well what if by chance you are wrong and my God does exist? What will you say when you die?" I told him, "Well, it's also possible that if I'm wrong, it could be one of the other religions are correct about who/what God is. In any event I would let my actions speak for who I am. IF there is a God, that God will decide what is to happen to me and I will accept that. I'm still going to believe the way I do and I'm going to treat you with respect, honesty and fairness, just because it's in my rules that I do so." He walked away, shaking his head, saying, "You can't be human -- no human can take that on themselves." I worked silently the rest of the night, thinking I would be fired. He never did fire me. I hope that my beliefs in this area have not caused you to think less of me. I hope that you can still respect me and believe that I am a good person. I hope it is the person I am that if you must judge, you use as a measure. Here is the essence of who I am as far as how I approach everyday life. This is what I try and live by. These stem from my beliefs. I do not push these upon anyone else, they were made for me, by me. This is the truth you asked about:- Be true with yourself and others
- Be consistent
- Act with integrity
- Look at the whole picture
- Ask questions
- Listen carefully
- Take responsibility for your actions and choices
- Don't blame -- be part of the solutions
- Define the problem before attempting to solve it
- Know the rules -- follow them
- Don't compromise your principles
- Don't expect others to be you-only you are
- Be fair
- Develop a team ego, not an individual ego
- At any given moment do the very best you can do
- Know your limitations, yet try to increase them
- Don't believe you can do it all
- Strive to improve; help others to do the same
- The easiest way will often not be the best way; be willing to take the harder road
- Conflict should result in improvement and should be dealt with in a no or low risk environment
- Be true to yourself and others
Moondance 8:47 pm Thanks for sharing Roger. I hope this is a lesson to some who might judge you. This is what know about you:- You always have a loving response to anyone's opinions and posts.
- Even when you disagree, you are first to recognize it is your opinion and they have theirs.
- You are a caring soul.
- You are unselfish with your time & energy
- You have always been open to information
- You are excepting of all
I may call that spiritual, some would say, it is of God. You may say it is you. As long as the point of goodness is not overshadowed with judgment. Thank you for being so open! Vykin Roger, thanx a million, I read your post, re read it and then wanted to copy it to show a friend. I have friends who are atheists and friends who are catholics. Your statements are very similar to the beliefs of my ethnic heritage. Though I believe in God, I did A Course in Miracles (it doesn't refer to god but applies to anyone's higher source, what ever it may be. Xenia referred to it. It talks of the same things as you refer to. Moondance The Native Americans... They had religious beliefs forced on them and stripped of their heritage. Only now are the tribes getting their strengths and beliefs back to their own. Roger I just don't get how we can do that to each other. It's like we try to punish and hurt a person or group of people to the maximum amount we can dream up. We do some pretty sick things sometimes. Vykin Okay Rogerramjetmrrodgerslethargic You're next! Its your turn to ask. Roger Is it just you and me Vyk?? Anyone here besides me and Vyk????? Vykin 9:00 pm LOL Roger. The Ghosts of Xenias Padded Cell. Roger Vyk -- truth or dare? Vykin I'll take a Dare. Roger OK! If you are familiar with Jesse Ventura, Gov. of MN, please provide your views of his approach to politics. He seems to be a "bit different" than the typical Rep/Demo. Do you see his style of politics catching on, or is a little too honest for most politically oriented people. If you aren't familiar with him, I'll give you a different dare!!!! Vykin Okay roger, give me time to answer yes, I know Jesse Ventura, sorry for your long wait still trying to answer Interrogator. I will take that Dare and response quick as I can. Roger No problem Vyk!! I wonder what Luke will have to say about my response -- he has studied the heck out of various religions! He might think me a nut case! Maybe not though --- and May, what of May? Vykin Yes, I believe in Ventura's style of politics. (You know Roger this really is a question not a dare) I said before my involvement in politics as a strategist and elected official made me disillusioned. The known parties (I'll try keep it just to the USA but it applies in Canada too) are all long time ingrained parties. In the USA, there is a high criteria for being formally recognized. The Democrates and Republicans had a firm hold of power. NO Chance for third parties. Though I don't necessarily agree with everything of the Reform party platform, I believe they should rebuild themselves since "pointed ears Perot" has left the helm. They should push to be a party worthy as a third option. What I loved about Ventura is all the professional pollsters, all the strategists for the democrats and republicans basically - Screwed up - in their ridicule of him. They mocked him for having been a WWF wrestler, yet at the same time didn't consider some of their own former candidates, i.e. Reagan the actor, etc. (I'm not picking on Republicans). So, with all their expertise, Ventura proved them wrong. And he did so because he was frank and honest. He didn't use political "weasel words" to try win votes, he said Take me for what I am. I respect that in politician. He has no aspiration to prepare himself as a President, whether he applies the "Peter Principle" to that decision I don't know. He calls it like it is, or actually, like it SHOULD BE. Politicians have become too comfortable in their positions of power. That is not a good thing. Remember I said when I first ran for office, I only vowed to three, 3-year terms. I strongly believe new ideas should be allowed, fresh minds. We, the People, DON'T need Lawyers and Millionaires running the country who think they know whats best for the common person. Ventura is like that, he is credible. He showed an Independent can win, there is hope and there is a chance for others in other states. The political world needs drastic re-vamping, too many old people, mostly men making all the decisions. Vykin Okay Roger, should you and I compare Lengths of our responses? roflmao Moondance 9:35 pm Agreed Roger Rabbit. Vykiness, I thought of you when RogerMan asked this question. The styles seem to be the same. Different from the usual rhetoric in politics. Roger 9:35 pm LOL!@!!!! Is that what you call it these days?? Vykin Helloooo? This is the 4th time I've checked back here? Did everyone leave the building? Roger I'm here! Are my posts showing at all? I switched how I'm getting in here. Are my posts showing?? I switched how I'm getting into the board. Vykin Yes roger your posts are showing but you're starting to repeat yourself. Vykin 9:40 pm Okay i'm just gonna go ahead, MOONIEE YOUR NUMBER is up(damn capital locks) Truth or Dare? Moondance You are stuttering RR. Vy go ahead and ask someone. Vykin Moon, I just did I asked you! But let me follow Roger's style and Repeat the question: Truth or Dare Moon? Moondance Dare Vykin 9:45 pm Moon why do you put yourself into these types of situation? Here is your Dare: I Dare you to go to the Internet Camera and pretend you are a man, and explain in detail how you approach Lukor (too bad Luke you snoozed, I took advantage), and try to pick him up for sex. addendum Moon, You also have to describe your sexual encounter with him. Roger Ooh, good dare! Sorry about the double post... I need to get used to this difeerent system. I restarted my computer and got in from the old way then it screwed up again and. My computer sucks and so do I!! Moondance OMG!!! Vykin Oh moon, I hope this isn't gonna be just a "wham bam thankyou man" post, you better follow the dare completely, my friend, while Roger and I sit back and laugh ourselves into oblivion. Vykin Roger if your trying it through the New Msgs search I tried that I found its easier just to continously post in here cuz it refreshes the fastest for me. Rog between you and me, I can't understand why Moon would take a Dare at the risk of having to once again "moon" herself. roflmao I will await this one. I wish Luke was here. Roger Moon has got guts, I'll give her credit for that! Vykin Roger, while Moon prepares her performance, I'm curious, do you yourself speak or understand Russian? How was it for your dad when he came to the USA, probably in the days when USA and Soviet Union didn't get along. Was it hard for him? Roger Don't speak or understand a word of it. My mom booted him out when I was 2. My sister is 10 years older than me -- he raped her when I was 2 -- he liked to hit me from what little I'm told. My mother doesn't allow me to speak of him. So, I have no answers... my sister told me the other couple of things when she was plastered once. Vykin 9:55 pm Gee Roger, I'm sorry, I wouldn't have asked if I knew that, I assumed he was around and you got along. My apologies. If there is anything you don't wish to talk about just type the subject is not up for discussion. Actually, while I'm at it I should say, in the challenge one of my "secrets" was I once lost a child. That is the only topic thats not up for discussion on these boards by me. But everything else is. Roger Glad you mentioned about that topic not being up for discussion! I will not bring that up to you. As for me, anything is fair game. My father's actions are on him, not me. And any of my actions are on me and I'm willing to own up to anything I've done -- good or bad. Or anything that has been done to me! Roger 10:11 pm Moon posted her dare on Internet Cam!! Great job Moon!!! |
Noslonna | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 03:06 am  Tuesday, October 24 Moon's Dare - Internet Camera Moondance 10:07 pm Yo ... your name Luke... ummm nice name dude. I just call ya Lukester. Hey man, I gotta great ride out front. Wanna check it out? Oh okay, yea man I'll talk. I can get in to talkin. So I am a friend of Rogers and he said you're pretty cool. So hey man, yeah I have to tell ya I watched you in the hot tub... I do landscaping on the grounds and I was workin' late the other night... Nice package man! Yeah, I'm not the flexible type... I bench 400lbs in the gym and all. So I could do a couple push ups for ya... aaaa okay, I'll wait til later. So yeah dude I kinda got you know ... excited when you showed that thong and all! Hey man, I have a pink one ya know. So listen, I think we have had a decent convo, lets say we go for a ride on my Harley and I fix ya some fondue (sp?) and uhh yeah we can dip some strawberries... Okay great, my ride is right outside ... it is the big shiney one right over here. Come on dude lets go!... Here I'll help ya... hey man, you cold ... your chest feels... I mean looks kinda good under that shirt.... Here man just slide in ... wow hope we have room for that oh yeah...hold on! Okay the Dare Masters have struck again... Luke you know I love you and this is a parody Vykin ROFLMAO MOON YKM, Consider your Dare complete and successful, proceed back to the livingroom its your turn to ask now. |
Noslonna | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 03:29 am  Tuesday, October 24 Living Room Moondance 10:13 pm You are a butt Vykinesss! Roger Hey, Moon, who was it that said Dare????? hehe Moondance I didn't want to offend Luke so I did something far out there. Vykin Moon this is the second time today I laughed, still laughing you did an excellent job. Now we wait for lukester to give his assessment. He is gonna kill us. Or I should say me. Roger I don't know Vyk -- he's got to stop laughing first before he can hurt you much! lol Moondance I am glad you enjoyed it... I hope the Lukester does too (and doesn't kill me!) Roger Your turn Moon? Moondance Okay Roger... truth or dare Roger Truth Moon. I don't want to have to put any body parts in some animal or vegetable... wait, the vegetable doesn't... never mind, truth still. Moondance 10:24 pm What is your favorite sexual position and why... explain. Roger Ok, this will take a couple of minutes to get down since I hunt and peck (no, that isn't a position). OH WAIT---CLARIFICATION--INTERCOURSE OR ANY SEXUAL ACTIVITY???? That will affect my answer haha Luke OKAY OKAY OKAY... I JUST SPENT THE PAST 15 MINUTES READING EVERYTHING IN HERE. The chat with Zeb, the banners. BUT MOOON!!!! OH MOOOOOON!!!! I WAS BEGINNING TO WONDER... WHAT THE HECK IS THIS!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Moondance Lukester My Man!!!!!!! But I love your package! Rogert Welcome back Luke--how did it go tonight??? Luke Tonight went okay. I had a conflict about the gay issue again... and believe it or not--the conflict was with a gay guy! Ug. I will probably post it somewhere in here. What else is up? We playing T or D? Roger Moon, since the posts are moving up so fast, did you see my question? Moondance Sexual position ... you take it how you perceive it. Roger_Ramjet 10:34 pm Ok, be back in a bit. Vykin Okay Roger is it your turn? LUKOR all I have to say is: Roger Made Me Do IT! Luke Roger made you do it? Moondance was the one that did the... um... "impersonation"... hehehe. Oh Roger. I'm reading your religion / atheism beliefs. Moondance 10:41 pm Roger said he will be back. Hey Lukey Luke. I didn't do it! Luke Roger had to leave for a bit? Hmmm... maybe he's going to research "various sexual positions"... HEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!! Vykin Guys I still have to respond to the second email the Interrogator sent me. If Host doesn't post the chat room transcript of my extra 5 minutes, I will post my response in here to gators questions. I may be a while but I'll check back in. Luke 10:44 pm Oh Vyk -- Congrats on the challenge!!! Woo hoo!!! But I thought you were the one who was Russian... you said you speak it... Ugh! :-) Moondance 10:45 pm I think the Vykiness said it last night that we are good about jumping around from deep feelings to deep in the hot tub! Roger 10:46 pm For intercourse, woman on top!!! Sex for me is about sharing each other, using as many of the senses as possible. With the woman on top, I can touch and rub her body in more places. I can see more of her body. With the woman on top, she can move just the right way, no lag time in me figuring out what’s needed. She can do some many different things from that position. Lay down on me, to touch in more places along our bodies -- lean back -- sit up straight -- she has more say in how things go. For oral sex -- this is even better than intercourse as far as I’m concerned -- me giving that is! Position would be on her back. I find giving a woman oral sex more intimate than even intercourse. It’s a way to get very close and to try to learn very small details about my partner. To feel each reaction to what I’m doing -- without regard to type of reaction. There is also plenty of chance to let hands roam over her body, or hold any part she wishes to be held. To caress lightly all over her body from feet to head. Luke Okay Roger. You won the contest for Sexiest Man Alive, hands down. I'd even vote for you! Roger Huh? You haven't seen your glasses for awhile, have you!! lol. Moondance Okay it has been way too long for me. I am ready for the dating scene after that. I'm turned on! Roger Moon, you think it's been too long for you?? How do you think I feel!!?? lol Ok, not to much left to the imagination about what I like... geezzz Luke,any concerns about my belief post?? You have studied about every religion?? Am I a danger to society?? Luke I am thinking a lot about your post. a lot... but first -- are we playing T or D? or whose turn is it? or should I start a religion thread? It doesn't matter to me waht we're doing -- I just don't want to divert any energy if i arrived in the middle of something. Roger We are doing T&D! It's going pretty well. Join in... who's next by the way??? |
Noslonna | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 03:45 am  Tuesday, October 24 Living Room Roger_Ramjet 11:06 pm Who's next? Luke 11:08 pm You're next aren't you, Roger? You just described sex... um... sexual position... yeah... hehehe Roger 11:10 pm Hey, it's Moon's fault!!!! Moon made me do it!! Folks, do you want me to ask, or should we have Luke jump into things??? Moondance 11:22 pm Roger ... it's your call. I am so sorry but I need to get some sleep! I can't wait til tomorrow and meet up with my favorite men. Sweet Dreams. Luke 11:23 pm you take care Moon... get some rest... hopefully tomorrow we both will be back to 100%... sweet dreams my dear! Roger 11:24 pm Goo night Moon! have a good night's sleep, and why not take the rabbit with you to night!! See you tomorrow!! Lkue, Vyk -- are both of you here? Luke 11:28 pm I am here, mon commandant! Roger 11:29 pm Do you want to continue with T&D?? Luke 11:30 pm Hey--I have a question. What made you think that I have studied different religions? (I have, though) Roger 11:34 pm You talked about all the different classes you'd taken in that subject when you talked about your classes in philosophy. Luke 11:35 pm Well, actually... I guess I'll come clean about something. Which has a lot to do with your post on religion. Roger 11:37 pm I was going to ask your opinion on that post. Go ahead and confess my son... no wait, that's not me!! Luke 11:43 pm Hehehe... how ironic that you say that! I actually spent 4 years of my life studying to be a Roman Catholic priest. That's where I did my undergraduate coursework -- in a Catholic seminary. I graduated and got my BA in philosophy, but I didn't continue towards the priesthood -- mainly because I fell in love with one of my classmates. (Kind of a no-no on two counts, first on the celibacy thing and second on the gay thing.) I guess I don't really mention that a lot because in all honesty, it's something I'm not really proud of... studying for the priesthood, that is. I learned a lot about religion, about Roman Catholicism and it wasn't that great of an experience. I wasn't kicked out or anything, though. I left on my own after graduating. It would have taken me 4 more years to be a priest and my classmates were ordained last year. I also found the seminary to be the worst place for a guy to come out of the closet as gay. That was the most difficult part. It's a pity that religions like Catholicism have such an unhealthy approach to sex and sexuality and such abusive and demeaning position towards gays and lesbians. It's even worse knowing how many priests are gay, yet hypocritically preach against it. Roger 11:48 pm Hey, sometimes things just don't work out! I believe a person can contribute to mankind in lots of ways. Luke 11:50 pm Now I'm still involved in a church, as a music director, but now I don't even see myself involved in that for much longer. The more out and proud I am of being gay, the harder it gets for me to remain quiet about who I am at church. I'm out to other priests, nuns, and to a lot of my choir but in all honesty, the Catholic Church is a great place for people who are homophobic and who descriminate against gays. All of this has caused me to look differently at religion. Roman Catholicism in particular. I've been a catholic all my life, but these last few years... being in a relationship with a guy who was homophobic himself... and who couldn't reconcile being gay and Catholic, all that has caused me to question my beliefs. Cuz a lot of what I had been taught as a child has just been wrong. Simply wrong. Roger 11:53 pm Luke, I think that every set of rules has a down side. Mine does, if I take it that way. Although I had the davantage of tailoring the rules to fit just me!! Other religions have to capture a large number of people---giving them a set of rules/standards to go by. The question becomes which is more important--the letter of the rule, or the intent of the rule??? That may be where humans have trouble with any given religion---having to come to terms with that both as individuals and as the group. Just grasping at straws here. Luke 11:55 pm I didn't really want to bring up the issue of religion and homosexuality up in a separate discussion or anything. I guess I didn't want to call attention to it. I basically agree with almost everything you wrote about atheism. You're a very rational person, Roger, and I think that however we came into existence in this world, we arrived with a brain, and that brain ought to be used to discover things, not simply accept everything we're told without questioning it. |
Noslonna | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 04:22 am  Wednesday, October 25 Living Room Luke Wed Oct 25 - 12:02 am That story you told about your boss in the grocery store, I encounter those people every day.I think that's pretty sad. I used to need the stability of religion and of that church environment, if that meant denying that I was gay, then so be it. But that was f**ked up thinking. Now, I think about how much I've come full circle and still getting more extreme, but in the other direction. Not only in coming to terms with being a gay man, but also realizing that there isn't a "right" way to approach religion or to believe in a higher power, or even in the lack of any such figure. I don't know. Roger 12:04 am Luke, one of the things I see most organized religion doing is to not say it's ok to feel what you've that right all this time is now wrong. We don't always make the right choices and sometimes the choice is right for the time, then later things change and we need a new choice. So many people are made to feel guilty for experiencing either. One of the thinsg I've noticed about religion is that one of the few beliefs they all have in common (and I mean religions from all over the world) is the golden rule---we know it as "do one to others as we would have done to us". It seems to be a universal message in each....yet is probably the most broken concepts of all. Seems more people have been killed in reigous wars than in all the other reasons for war combined. Where was that concept all those times. It's humans doing it to each other all through history. IMHO Luke 12:13 am Basically, things came to a huge halt last year with the end of the relationship with my first lover. I mentioned somewhere in here that it was an abusive relationship but it also made me see a lot of things in a different light. I was still heavily involved in church. My job and my school were all church related. Then I put a screaching halt to all of that and got a Silicon Valley job, and am loving it. I feel like I've been freed out of some chains that have held me all my life -- religion. Seems for some people, religion exerts a lot of control and has a lot of power. It sure did over my life for a long, long time. In regards to religion, I see a lot of my life as overly involved in religion for too long a time. It was a source of stability in my life. Even when I began to grow and realize that I'm gay, I'd seek stability in a church that considers me a disorder. When I read your story, I related with your boss, but I also related with you as being what I am basically aiming for, and that is having the set of beliefs that is free from religion. Sorry that took so long to post. Roger 12:21 am I'm not bothered by length of posts -- notice mine exceed anyone else's! LOL As cheesy as it sounds, I hold that you should be able to sert up any conditions you want (or anyone else too--including those that have a religion work for them). I took the step a long time ago....at the price of being placed as a loner in society. Imagine a 15 year old being so bold as to establish his own "religion"---his own rules to live life by. I say that not to gain sympathy---I say it to show that it happens...for me at 15. For others at whatever age they choose to take steps away from the previous beliefs. Luke 12:23 am When I was in the seminary, I used to do a lot of travelling. Languages were my thing, and so I've picked up a few languages in my life. And when you can communicate with someone in a different language, you have a special view into the culture and environment in which that person has lived. There are so many different types of people in this world. But there are some common values--its a sad thing when differences separate rather than unite. Why so philosophical--well because I think that's just the point of this game, throwing 10 of us in this place that are basically different. I definitely don't agree with a lot of the beliefs of the people in here and the attracting point, is how we react to the fact that we are different. How we choose to respect -- or not respect -- each other's differences. Roger 12:27 am That point, Luke is a key to this game, for insiders and outsiders!!! It isn't the differences that are that important... it's what we do with them that is of importance!!! Luke 12:30 am Oh... just for the record... being out and proud and not having religion as a "crutch" anymore is something I would never give up. Oh no... i'm wondering if i should call it a night... i feel that old familiar headache and sore throat... (I'm actually thinking of calling in sick tomorrow!) Roger 12:38 am Luke, call it a night if you are getting the symptoms back. I wanted to direct you to a part of the chat where Zeb gave you a piece of advice from the outside -- and I don't know that it's valid from what we are experiencing. He indicated that some feel you are holding back about yourself just a little bit. You can probably find it in the transcripts. He had a piece of advice like that for each -- except Moon I think. take care of yousself, and hope you feel bette in the morning! Like I said in my app... life is 10% what you're given, and 90% what you do with it! I still believe it... and you may be living it! Luke I did read that, Roger... and I do think that I will be taking that advice... but honestly, not in order to please the outsiders, but especially after talking with you, I feel like this is a comfortable and safe environment to be more open... (i could be wrong, though... but what the heck... I'll take my chances!) Luke 12:39 am Actually, Roger... I do think I will call it a night. I could talk to you all night long if I were feeling better. My head is killing me! Roger 12:43 am Good night Luke--see you tomorrow, and we will see what nominations bring for the wait till Friday night! Luke 12:44 am Oh... and one more thing, then I'm turning in. About being attracted to you. Well, I'm attracted to a lot of things about you, that's for sure. And to tell you the truth, if you were gay, I'd probably be exremely attracted to you. I mean, I haven't seen you, and you did once mention that you are older... but I usually find myself attracted to more mature guys--mature emotionally and mentally, but that usually turns out being chronologically as well. But, you're not gay, so just take that as a compliment rather as a pass... hehehe Roger 12:46 am Hey, what can you lose--you've only got a couple hundred or thousand people listening to your every word!!! While we feel all wrapped up in here, we are indeed in a very fragile bowl. I would challenge anyone to step in here and let it all hang out and not have a concern. Vykin 12:44 am Hi Roger, Luke, this is such a good conversation. I want to share some thoughts on organized religion as well with both of you. Unfortunately its almost 1 am, I have to get to bed. But I want you to know first thing in the morning, I'm coming back to jump into this discussion. Which is fascinating for me. I will share with you some experiences I've had and seen, some negative aspects from within my own faith. In passing, I want to tell all of you, tomorrow our nominations go in. I suppose that will be the final banishment roll call. I know we all have to nominate 3 people. I can honestly say that this round of nominations will be the hardest for me cuz I truly don't want to nominate any of you. I sincerely in the past few days have enjoyed the talks we all have had THE WHOLE HOUSE! all 5 of us. Probably the best discussions. Good Night. Luke 12:48 am Vykin--I really appreciate your honesty, and your approach to the way you've been questioned by those people. I'll be looking forward to chatting with you more tomorrow as well. Good nite, all! Roger 12:56 am Vyk---I look forward to your thoughts!! I'd like to hear all of them! I agree about nominations---actually I was thinking today that I'd like to see all of us up for banishment! I say that not because I feel it will help me win. I think we'd feel on equal footing from each other and would feel that the outside wold truly by the only judge... something that us voting requires us to be... a judge to some degree. Luke, I will take your thoughts as a compliment. Something I've found out is that a positive is still a positive, no matter where you stand on things. I would say the same if a married woman was attracted to me... it's not a place I would ever go, however it was still nice of tem to feel positive toward me... hell, there are plenty that don't!! LOL! Good night my friends!! Roger 2:24 am May, I hope Zeb's message of posting more often as raised by some folks got to you. No matter what it's ahrd to win with everyone... write posts when no one is around, some might appreciate, some might find lame. You stay up late, you post when you get up, and check in during the day -- pretty good to me. Just hope you aren't too bummed out -- I sure enjoy you being here!! Internet Camera Roger Wed Oct 25 - 02:19 am First, in looking at the posts from tonight's chat, there was one person who said hi to me that I didn't say hi back to -- Hi Deedra. Kearie -- thanks for your e-mail address. I will be writing you after I am out of the house -- be that Friday or Monday -- obviously I hope it's Monday. You are welcome to ask Host for my address as well. I have given permission to her or Admin to pass it along to you. Hope all is well with you. Some information to cover with you. Take care. In Your Opinion, What Would Make THE GAME Better? Discuss Roger 1:39 am An addition of an internet camera that when the player posts, no other player can see. Keep the one where others can "hear" the post as well. A place where BGs can go to talk to each other without other BGs being able to "hear". This would increase the chances for alliances if the BGs so chose to try forming them. Without regard to if I think they are good or not, in real life they can be formed---so they should be allowed here too (in private). Whatever is set up, the oustide folks should be able to see everything---no secrets to them!!! Discussions: Vykin: Questions Asked - Questions Answered Vykin 12:23 am Host has kindly posted the chat transcript under the Message Board for us inmates. Including my reward of 5 extra minutes. I have set up this folder in complete honesty and truth. I believe you, my housemates, especially the 4 of you left, need to have the opportunity. I will answer any questions put forward to me and answer in the most honest and direct way that I can. Do not think any question is too tough, I will answer all -- so I invite you to post. Roger 12:24 am Vyk -- mention the one topic you told me that was off limits -- we should all know that one so we don't accidently go where you want untouched. Vykin 12:31 am Oh sorry, Roger, I was referring to the Arreal questions, but yes, NOTHING is off limits, except what Roger referred to. The only thing I won't discuss on these boards is the reference to one of my secrets for the challenge that is the one about "I once lost a child" (too painful and not related to TheGame) Roger 1:57 am Vyk -- one thing that seems to be the case, although I could be missing a lot of information. Maybe not though. From what I've heard from you, Arreal, and Gail while in here, it seems that Host has known about whatever happened. I personally didn't want Arreal to walk, just as I would not have wanted anyone to walk. Such issues are taken care of by a number of conditions in place...1) our voting, 2) the outside folks voting, and 3) Hots/Interrogator ability to intervene when they feel the need. Having said that, from my perspective, for wahtever happened, I think could have/would have/will be taken care of. My philosophy about chatting with each other or other folks. Personally I don't care who talks to who if the game isn't a factor in the conversation. This isn't real life where we can be placed in an actual house and kept away from everything. We have lives to deal with...relatives and friends with life threatening news, kids that have so much going on, work, etc. These things can just as easily get in the way of the game. Host has to trust us to a certain level to begin with. If we come in here to screw with the game, we're going to find a way to do it without getting to contact other people. If it's not possible to keep people from communicating (and let's face it--it's not possible), don't make a rule that can't be enforced. With all that said, I don't have any questions for you at this time. I wish Arreal was here, becuase I wouldn't have any questions for her either. If anyone should be gone for knwon communication, it would have been taken care of long before now. All this is MHO |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:52 am  Morning Noslonna. I am here today. |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 10:09 am  VYKIN'S QUESTIONS ASKED, QUESTIONS ANSWERED DISCUSSION Vykin - 05:53 am thank you roger Vykin - 08:11 am HouseGuests: I said I am willing to share everything. The following is an email I found that Arreal sent to me. I had forgotten about it. I can only ask if Arreal had sent this to me back on October 8th, I wonder how many of these emails she was getting on a daily basis. She cannot say they were unsolocited because the email starts out "To answer your questions". I only wish I had remembered this email or I would have posted it a lot sooner when ArReal was in the room. Its from someone called Lafatme. << Subj: Re: Hey guys Date: 10/8/00 1:47:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: Lafatme To: A******4u hi hon, nice to hear from you! to answer your questions: xenia seems to be one of the least popular("hater"), moon is popular. vyk is also popular. mantastic is being dissed for absence-("slacker") admin told about the pic, no one has posted any negative comments about it. mostly things like "is that real? i wanna meet her" somebody claims to have "pitched a tent" when viewing your self portrait! you, moon, vyk, & roger seem to be liked. you have the second most fanmail to moon right now (her pic is popular), vyk is third. i think moon may have lost a few points for whining about not getting recognition in the plane challenge, but maybe not. quite a few comments about xenia being anti-christian, not sure why. also, your story about ex-hubby and your death penalty take are both well received. people like that you are honest and passionate about your views. btw, i wholeheartedly agree with your DP take. there has been concern expressed that you may later regret your honesty-folks are concerned about you-that's good. the BGs who i have not mentioned have little attention so far. i don't think we've heard enough from them to form an opinion yet. i hope this helps a little. i miss you, although it is nice to email you but i miss you posting on the board. in the meantime, i check the playroom often to see what you're up to. you're doing good, i'm proud of you Himay10ns - 08:46 am Damn, that really pisses me off!! THE LIVING ROOM Himay10ns - 04:53 am Thanks Roger! I appreciate that... He said "no more excuses", so here are the facts: I get up at 3PST and the first thing I do is sign on and catch up on the late night. When I get to work, I pull up the Play Room even before I read my email! I'm in the Play Room ALL DAY. I usually tell you guys when I'm leaving to drive home and you can see that I sign on at home about 30 minutes later and I'm on until I go to bed. I've been seeing a family physician because of insomnia and he has given me some medication to take at 9:00pm each night. By 10, I'm a zombie and can hardly keep my eyes open. It would be kinda silly for me to seek help with insomnia and then stay up until 5 in the morning every night!! My alarm goes off at 5!! So, if the fans take that as an excuse, then I'm sorry. I'm doing everything I possibly can! Thanks for noticing that I was a little bugged by that comment. I'm going to hit the shower and head to work. I'll see you guys in a bit! Hymay10ns - 07:16 am GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY!!! Wakey, wakey!! Time to get up! <I guess talking to yourself is better than playing with yourself, hehehe> Hey Roger, the Dairy Queen is open for business....wanna place your order?? Would you like fries with that shake?? Luke - 08:53 am Oh my gawd... i feel sooooo sick... Don't you hate those kind of headaches when you feel like your brain is expanding to the size of a watermelon and throbs thump-thump..... thump-thump.... Aaaaahhhhh!!! And my throat feels like the Sahara desert! I want medicine right now!!!!!! Like any pill that will send me into outer space... please!!! (I love being dramatic when I'm sick in bed! ) Roger_Ramjet - 08:57 am May--my question was ....here is comes...get ready... does that make you a Dilly Bar???? LOL--slapping knee!! Roger_Ramjet - 08:59 am Talking with yourself is better than playing with yourself???? I could tell you wich one I'd rather watch you do! hehehe Luke - 09:20 am Good Morning Roger Rabbit! How are you doing today? (Yes, i'm in bed again with my laptop... not a good combination, I know... hehehe) Roger_- 09:26 am Hey there Luke---have you done nominations yet?? I figure it's going to be everyone's favorite chore! (kidding of course) Hey, at least if you go to sleep, it shouldn't ake you long to catch up when you wake up. Luke - 09:29 am Actually, Roger, I usually procrastinate on nominations... I want to take up till the last minute to make my decision... i'm not looking forward to it, though... Sometimes i do like my company's benefits... I just email them that I'm sick, and that's it... we have unlimited sick days... so nobody keeps track! I feel the tylenol starting to kick in though... i'll probably doze in and out of consciousness, and make a post or two every time I'm coherent... |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 10:25 am  THE INTERNET CAMERA Himay10ns Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 07:52 am Good morning all...I'm going on 5 hours this morning in here by myself. Zeb said you guys are kinda frustrated that I'm not around for the late, late night. He said to stop making excuses so I won't. But just remember, I've been here for 5 hours alone this morning so far! It's hard to carry on a "decent" conversation with yourself, LOL. I give you my word....I'm going to pull out all the stops and stay up late for the next few nights. I hope I can give you more insight into my life and soul....and make you laugh at the same time!! Hi Nos, Digi, Anna, Ocean. Keep the pickle in the jar!! I'm having soooo much fun with everyone!! I guess I'll talk to you guys on Friday night during the live banishment chat. OH, how I want to make it to the final three!! XOXOXO NEW BANNER Host -- Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 05:06 am VYKIN: ARREAL GETTING BASHED OUT HERE. STAY IN GAME! |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 10:54 am  THE LIVING ROOM Himay10ns - 10:22 am ROGER!!!! Dilly Bar!!! I'm LMAO!!!!! You are hilarious!! I haven't done my noms either....I think I've figured out my strategy so it's just a matter of sending Host my decision. Lukey....stay in bed and get well!!! Hey, did you guys read the email that Vyk got from ArReal. He posted it in the Discussion area. She was getting all kinds of info from the outside. Not much I can say now, but that really pisses me off!! Himay10ns - 10:45 am La, La, La, La....humming to myself....La, La, La, La.... Hey guys, we had a pharmaceutical rep bring lunch today and he gave away these cute little favors. Furry, purple, vibrating cows....they are hysterical. These things can really VIBRATE!! But the string that you pull to make them vibrate is just too short. It's only wiggles for about 10 seconds. hehehe |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 12:28 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Himay10ns - 11:13 am Ok, I think I will invent an imaginary friend to talk to during the day. Everyone...meet Fred, my imaginary friend. Perhaps Fred can ask me some questions to stimulate conversation when everyone else is gone.... Roger_Ramjet - 12:02 pm May--LOL I tried to write back to your message concerning the messages...however I had a work thing come up so had to wipe it out. I wonder if it wouldn't be a good topic for dicussion when we all get together next. Just to see where people are at with this, and to share perspectives. I see the point about the "rule"---that can't be enforced. I question the worth of having a rule that can't be enforced. Heck, actually I guess we have a number of them. (I'm writing what I think of as I go along--sorry) We have to be able to trust each other to make good choices. In looking at the message Vyk posted, I have to ask myself---Ok, what in that message could put a BG in a better position than any other BG??? At least for that aprticlar message, I didn't see anything. Maybe just piece of mind?? I don't know. For me, I hate to draw conclusions and make too many judgements without hearing from all sides. We currently have Vyk in here, so we can hear from him. At least for me, I'm missing the following people to put it all together---Host, Interrogator, Arreal, Gail, and anyone on the giving or receiving end of any messages. I hope we learn more when we get out (or maybe I should change the "we" to "I"????). Anyway, I've really rambled! I got it all mulled through my mind though!!! (now you guys see how I think)LOL! Vibrating cow??? Anything like Moon's vibrating rabbit??? hehe So, who all is around from time to time??? Luke, you alive still?? DQ, I'll take a shake with that order--and I'll explain that later! Himay10ns - 12:06 pm Fred, have you seen any warm bodies around?? Me either... Roger_Ramjet - 12:12 pm OUCH!! Hey, I'm not frigid! May, will you be willing to give me your e-mail address so we can communicate after the game (or ok Host or admin forwarding to me)??? I'd enjoy some individual converstaions with you if you have any interest. Let me know how you feel about that. Did you get to look at that challenge yet?? What did you think about it?? Himay10ns - 12:18 pm Roger.......I was getting sooooo lonely!! I've just been here talking to Fred.... My feeling is this....we were told "no outside contact". Come on....we're all adults. It appears from Vyk's post of the email from ArReal that she was getting "game summaries" from fans, and worse than that, she was passing them on to other BGs. That's just common sense to me. I'm interested to know if she felt this info was helpful to her in any way. I can't see how knowing all that stuff can help you play the game any differently, especially if you are being yourself. Roger, are you talking about the Rock the Vote challenge? Yeah, I already submitted my choices, you know they are due today! Roger, I would be happy to give you my email address after the game is over. When I return to the outside and begin posting under Dilligaf again, you can click on my username and my info will come up. I'd love to keep in touch! Roger_Ramjet - 12:25 pm All your points are what I feel also, if I understand you correctly...I look forward to asking Kearie about this and why she left without saying anything. Time will hopefully tell. Hey, have the people that set you up on your blind date said anything to you?? More importantly, have you said anything to them? lol |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 01:06 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Roger_Ramjet - 12:31 pm I remember the challenge was due this afternoon, so I did it last night after we all broke up. Same with nominations. Because I can never know that I'd have even a few minutes free during the day, I always send everything in during the middle of the night. I don't want to miss a deadline! Besides, I figure between 2:00 am my time and 3:00 pm the next day, not much is going to happen that I'd change my mind!! lol I hope Host allows my request to include all my text that went with my nominations. I've always been able to separate the two issues--nominations and how things are going with everyone. They have never been personal to me. I don't know if anyone else has atken them that way (just ecause we are all so close) or if everyone has been like me--it's just part of the game. btw, glad you'd like to converse after the game! Luke - 12:42 pm (wandering in aimlessly) Uh... hello... my name is Luke... Mommy, is that you? I have a huge headache.... Oh wait... we're in the viertual house... Hello everyone... I feel like I'm about to ..... um.... eeerrrrrpppp.... (runs to the bathroom) Roger_Ramjet - 12:43 pm Luke---that was nice of you to share! lol Himay10ns - 12:46 pm Oh Puke....I mean Luke!! Shall we get you the red bucket?? Roger, I appreciate your views on the contact thing. I'm with you....it's hard to point fingers when you don't know all the facts. I hope we can talk to Kearie on the outside. Yeah, my friend Judy (the one that fixed me up) sent me an email yesterday and asked if I was still speaking to her, LOL. She said that next time she would find a nice-looking, christian man....wooohoooo!!! I have to head to a meeting at 3. Will you guys keep Fred company?? Luke - 12:49 pm I hate being sick... yuck... I'm about to go get something to eat, then I'll have to do those nominateions and the challenge... i've been asleep all morning--what have you guys been up to? morning--what have you guys been up to? Roger_Ramjet - 01:02 pm May--that was funny---Puke/Luke Luke--haven't been up to much. Fred, May's new imaginary friend, seems to be good competition for us---she likes him better than she likes us!! So much for loyalty! Luke--so much for you feeling better today! |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 04:07 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Moondance - 01:08 pm HI May dilly bar! Hi Roger rabbit! Hi Pukey Lukey! I want a vibrating cow to add to my Rabbit collection Luke... It doesn't matter how old we get... Moms will always make us feel better! I hope you get to feeling better! Roger_Ramjet - 01:28 pm Did you two (Moon/Luke) see the banner? May already said she did. I'm going to ask Vyk if he was thinking about going.(because of what it said) Moon, I'm concerned where that vibrating cow's tail is going to end up!! Luke - 01:37 pm Yeah... I don't think Vyk would leave on his own. I think he's trying to play the game well, and wouldn't quit at this point (or at least I hope he won't).... Mmmmm some hot chicken soup with rice... just hit the spot... i'm already able to sit up in bed now... It's kida dreary weather, rainy and cold here... so I guess it's a good day to be at home cuddling underneath the covers with my trusty laptop! Moondance - 01:39 pm Hi Roger... I saw it... I don't think Vykiness is the type to quit... How are you today? Roger... don't go there... cow tail not good! Roger_Ramjet - 01:41 pm <<so I guess it's a good day to be at home cuddling underneath the covers with my trusty laptop!>> So, that's waht you call it these days! I don't think Vyk wold either, although I've beeb wrong before. I'll ask if he just brought up the idea--I didn't mean to indicate he will actually wolk--just thinking about the issue....he said he had lots of questions from Gator last night. Well, Moon, I had to ask! Inquiring minds.....you know how that is! hehe Luke--sounds like you're feeling better...ready t take a couple laps around the block? Moon, ready to give that vibrating cow a...wait..sorry. lol Moondance - 01:47 pm Vy had a rough day yesterday... hope today is better for him You being bad today Rabbit! Luke - 01:58 pm believe it or not, i´m having a glass of wine... one glass of wine always makes me feel better... no matter what... Moondance - 02:03 pm Lukey being bad today too! Vykin - 02:09 pm Hi Friends, ( i sincerely mean that) can you believe I've missed you today??? Give me time to catch up on your LR posts. I was up early this morning, as some of you may have seen. Then it took me close to two hours to respond to a email from Interrogator with a bunch of questions. Then I had to see the doctor, re my tests. Thats the Good news. No operation required. I was exhaused because as u can see from last nite chat, and again fallout (my apologies) I was exhausted. So I fell asleep for an hour and it turned into almost 3 hours. Regarding leaving No I'm not unless I am banished or the Host pulls me out. Will explain in a bit. Probably in the "other" folder (I also will share with you the long converse with Gator I meant when I said I have nothing to hide., meantime I want to catch up with you guys, in here and see if ur playing truth or dare or still talking religions (which I have taken page from Roger, I'm compiling in my Word file and will cut and paste to here) Okay (out of breath) What challenge? Oh darn is there another one I forgot about? Moondance - 02:24 pm Vy... that is great about the not having the operation... congrats! Hope you are feeling better today! Vykin - 02:28 pm Just tired moon, and actually ticked off that I haven't had a chance to post my latest "John" story. I just did the new challenge (saved by half hour) That was fun!!! Gee good thing I catch up on reading posts, otherwise I would have missed it. Luke - 02:31 pm ugh! i have to do the challenge... and i think i'll take one last short nap... i'll be back in an hour or so... hopefully with more energy to chat good to see you vyk! Moondance - 02:36 pm -Hey you guys... I just sent in my nominations... and I started to cry... sorry to be a baby but I didn't want to do it. You guys are like family so I am sorry for who I nominated. Know that if I had it my way we would all stay until Monday. Each one of you are so special... please know that. Okay now I get to finish the challenge... that looks like more fun! I will be back! Luke - 02:42 pm -I just got done with my nominations too... I need a rest after that... BRB in like an hour... Himay10ns - 02:45 pm -Hey Everyone! It's 4:45 and I'm heading home. Gonna stop by the Wine Cellar and pick up a good bottle of vino. I'll see you guys in about 45 minutes! I'm raring to go!! I've been all by myself today....except for Fred and the fluffy, purple vibrating cow! hehehe OK, Fred IS the fluffy, purple, vibrating cow!! Moondance - 02:54 pm Drive safe May! And put Fred in the back seat! Vykin - 02:55 pm HiMays! I just saw Fred!!!!! Perhaps he's the Mole in our house. You watch out for him!!!! Here's how to check, if you start milking him (and yes I know male cows/bulls don't give milk) Check the color of the milk. If its purple, we're all dead meat in here! Moondance - 03:00 pm Vykiness!... your b-day is coming up... Sunday, do you have any plans? Vykin - 03:03 pm Well Moon, it will be two things: I will either be on the outside watching you guys. I will be on the inside with you guys. But I think I'm gonna get some hiking in before the snow flies. Just to let you all know, I will be out for dinner for a bit, but will be on through the evening now that I'm rested and the caffeine has kicked butt with me! Moondance - 03:12 pm See you later Luke - 03:42 pm You still there Moon? How are you feeling today? Hymay10ns - 03:42 pm Yoohooo....I'm back! Have a nice chilled glass of Chenin Blanc and watching Martha Stewart carve some pumpkins on the Food Network. I'm ready for the night. We're all gonna need a big group hug when the nominations are posted. Hi Moon! How was your day?? Pukey Lukey, are you around?? Moondance - 03:47 pm Hey guys... go check out your name analysis in the general discussions Luke - 03:47 pm I am feeling a little woozy, just waiting for my afternoon Tylenols to set in... I didn't like the challenge today... didn't feel like juding others in here on that criteria. But I think the whost or whoever tried to model the questions after BB... and it seemed to raise some pressure in the house... maybe that was the host's point... I dunno... I'm still in bed... but getting a lot of rest... hopefully I'll feel really great by tomorrow... I expect banishments on friday to be quite emotional... stacey... wow! Moon-what a beautiful name! |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 04:12 pm  VYKIN'S QUESTIONS ANSWERED DISCUSSION Vykin Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 02:39 pm My current in house friends, as I said, I will share everything with you. This includes my RedRoom Interrogation. Gator really had me in forever. Preamble: During the Arreal/Tali/Vykin Dragged in Crisis, I had somethings I could have said that occurred. I held them back because no matter how angry I was at Arreal for disrupting this house. I wasn't going to try better "my case". I feel comfortable in sharing somethings with you now. You've most likely read the Chat Transcripts Host posted. There are 3 emails I will post in 3 separate parts, they will appear in reverse from the latest to the earliest (last nite) As "Al" on Letterman would say: LETTER NUMBER ONE: Subj: Re: Your Second Set of Questions - RedRoom Response Date: 10/25/00 11:45:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: interrogator01@hotmail.com (The Interrogator) To: E******@aol.com Vykin; Thanks for the quick, and detailed reply. I will post it in the Red Room area ASAP, so your side of this can be made public. You are free to discuss anything you and I talked about with the other BG's. On behalf of myself, and I am sure Host will back it up, please pass on my apologies to your friend who was harassed by some of these ... people. It is things like that which give the 'net a bad name. If you have anything else on the matter which you would like to say through the Red Room, or any other matter, please feel free to email me. Conversely, if I have any other questions be assured I will ask them. The Interrogato LETTER NUMBER TWO: Subj: Your Second Set of Questions - RedRoom Response Date: 10/25/00 9:57:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: E*****@aol.com To: interrogator01@hotmail.com Good Evening Vykin; - Good evening now morning to you Gato, wow "privilege you beckon me twice in one nite! (Are you out of cigarettes?) You have already received the general email about the chat sent to all the Board Guest's. However, you also received an additional 5 minutes of fame because you won a challenge. There are some questions left unanswered during that chat. Okay Gato, I said I am willing to answer any question. As I asked during the chat, you have been accused of cheating not only through IM, but also by getting information from friends, your "advisors". How do you respond to that? Who coined the word "cheating" are you referring to the question about the NY Times article? I emphatically state, "I am not cheating" Gator I have set up a folder in the Discussions to answer any and all questiions my housemates may have. I am also including any emails I may have received. I have nothing to hide. NYTimes article was emailed to me by a BB chat friend, innocently. It was the only email I received, aside from Arreal, about the Game. It came in the first week of the game before Host clarified emails. This was a new friend registered who told me they wanted to support me before I became sequestered. In that first week, while Arreal and I were just IMing, - when most of my IMs asked about website technical stuff, i.e. how to do clipart etc. My friend inadvertently emailed me about the NYTimes article, I assume now, which was posted on the public side of the boards. I got "sucked" in. (Hell I even phoned my real world friends and told them - they thought I was nuts!). Just as I got the email, Arreal coincidently, IMd me. I told her apparently "we've made the NYTimes", so we both talked about that. Shortly afterward I came to my senses. I emailed my friend and said: "Are you sure its not a Hoax?", I also referred that it "smells" of the false news articles the BigBrother ppls got in tennis balls. My friend responded, they felt it was real, cuz someone named Ocean had posted it. I said, I'm gonna search NYTimes (I am a registered user with them) and see if I can find it. They said they wud also search. I searched found nothing. Only other email I got about that was a one liner from my friend: "Its a Hoax, even the Host got taken". Not long after, a banner flew in the house about NY Times article. By then I knew its likely a hoax and I posted that. End of Story. Second Part: the "advisors", in all my online discussion groups, since 7 years ago, we have this "rapport", when the situation calls for we call ourselves different things. It keeps the humor in our chats. The term, "advisors" is reference to friends, we've also used words such as "doctors" (this was new "invention") coined after BigBrother was over, my new group of friends from BigBrother Chats, wanted to stay in contact. To do so, we created a private chat room Called BBB Therapy this is simply a place for all of us to go and commiserate about how we miss BigBrother. so, we would always say, I need to go visit the doctor, I need therapy. That is our way of saying, "lets go chat about anything", we are bored". Heck we even have one guy who goes and chats about his flower gardens! I have other friends with other chatrooms where a bunch of us go for privacy to talk about Politics, Also about JonBenet, Martha Moxley. My oldest discussion group is called ProJayers, it refers to stragglers from the OJ trial (sorry gato we still despise the man). We use private chats because AOL has a lot of perverts and lurkers stalking the public chat rooms, who spam alot. You mentioned that a friend was threatened after the IM's with ArReal. Please elaborate. Certainly Gato, Let me put this into perspective. This question correlates to the one about me pulling out of the game. When Arreal went ahead with exposing Tali, she had first IMd me because I came into LR int the middle of some discussion btwn her and Roger and she said, "Vykin, tell roger the secret, tell him tell him". I had no idea what she referred to, I hadn't read the previous converse btwn her and Roger. I posted, "What secret?" I honestly didn't understand, then I saw Tali enter the Livingroom and saw something about "someone's head under water", Regardless, I thought Arreal was just playing a game, so I played along, posting a "fake" story about seeing tali go into the church the nite before. I think Arreal got angry, she then IMd me, she said something to effect of, "You have to help me, I want to set Tali up and expose her, the Host is not listening to my emails". It was then, I realized Arreals reference to a "secret" meant exposing Tali. I responded, "Arreal, I have told you a number of times, I'm not gonna question what the Host decides. I don't know anyone here." I also said, "Arreal, if you want Tali's role out in the open, then you have to deal with Tali and get her to tell the other housemates" I think I even posted something to that effect when I saw Arreal start LR posts calling me a liar or hiding something. Kearie mentioned in the chat that you promised to back her against Talisker, but withdrew your support. How do you respond? This is a flat outright lie! I have NEVER promised her anything like that, in fact, I told her she should ask Tali to reveal her role it was not my place to do so, but Tali's. Arreal was getting more angry at me, she couldn't resist, she twisted things to Roger, and pulled him into her devious plot. To the extent that he went to Challenge area and posted a ton of questions about me. Wondering if I too am a Mole, etc. (it's all on record) Shortly after all this began to unfold, I think the next day, I get a frantic email from my friend who said, "What's going on??? someone just IMd my husbands screenname and made threats against you!" I thought "What the Hell? " . My friend was worried didn't know how the screenname had been found. Then I remembered - when before the game started, I doubleclicked on the user names and some had email addresses. I said to my friend, "Go to the site and check your user name, you may have put your email address in the Profile portion of registration". Yes, my friend had done that thinking it is private, not realizing anyone can click and see it. Especially people familiar with TVClubhouse. I asked who the person was that IMd my friend. I was told someone named SARA. I then remembered in one previous converse with Arreal that she had referred to a friend on the outside boards called "Sara". Gato, I didn't fall off the turnip wagon yesterday!! With all the other weird IMs from Arreal taunting me. I got angry. I also knew that only AOL members know that they can IM to a screenname that is also an email address and Arreal is an AOL member who would also know this. This "Sara" person, said something to effect of, "We are gonna get or nail Vykin, ....There is a Mole in your group of friends". (I think there was more). I was LIVID, I almost pulled out of the Game. Call me what you want, hate me in the posts on the outside, hate me in posts on the inside. BUT NEVER ATTACK MY FRIENDS, USING EMAILS, IMS, ETC. Some feel that you should pull out of the game, as ArReal did, because of the IM cheating. How do you respond? Gator, How am I cheating? The Host has responded clearly & concisely about the use of emails & IMs. I even posted somewhere that Host clarify the use of emails/IMs. I believe Host re-stated the Rules and said he can't stop it and its not part of the official rules.... However, I immediately stopped when I saw there was confusion about use of emails/IMs. I also sent emails to anyone and everyone on my mail list not to refer to the game. This was during the escalating conflict btwn Arreal & Me. However, Arreal STILL tried to contact me via IM at least 3 times, The first time, I responded, "Arreal please do not attempt to contact me anymore via IM or email, I am complying with the Host's request". This may have angered her, because then her next two IMs were "Vykin - Remember : Cut & Paste, He He He", "You are a liar, i'm exposing you" - this implied that she was threatening me with something. I didn't respond. During this same period of time, a number of other things occurred almost simultaneously. 1. I received an email from a friend, who I think may have posted on the outside boards, very confused and worried because someone named Sara had IMd 2. Shortly thereafter, in the chatroom Friday nite, I saw a full screenname of another friend, I thought it was odd, because before the game started (this person, (who by the way, is 59year old female, breastcancer survivor, and I met during BigBrother) I had told Arreal about cuz she had asked me a question about someone named muzzy , cuz I had referred to muzzy in an internet camera address one night. I said, "Oh you mean, muzzyg***" Arreal was the ONLY person who knew muzzy's full screen name. Muzzygra** kept disrupting the chat. I recognized the name, if I recall, I asked muzzy to stop more than once, 2 or 3 times, the Host also asked this person to stop disrupting. I couldn't understand, that was totally out of character for the muzzy that I knew. Then I remembered , during BB Days that going into a chat you can use any name u want, it doesn't have to be your clubhouse user name. I thought with all the other weird stuff perhaps someone impersonated my friend, I don't know if its true. I even thought for a brief moment that Arreal could be impersonating Muzz, I don't know if its true, but Arreal had missed two chatroom discussion during the Tali explosion, and was fighting with me on the boards. Now regarding your question about pulling out and IM cheating. Arreal refers to everything BEFORE Host clarified for us. It wasn't in the rules not to IM, I was new to the Game, still stumbling around. If people feel that constitutes cheating, the question I ask is: Why haven't they requested that the Host pull me out? It's been more than two weeks. To pull out is to "cave in" to my Haters. I feel they've probably destroyed me enough. What do they want from me? I am sure they have the Host's email address to formally request that I be pulled for what they see as "cheating". Is there anything else on the subject that you wish to say? Yes, one final thing, Any of my friends I've referred to I am absolutely willing to email the Host with their emails to verify whether my response is accurate. I will not reveal them here because, my friends, IF I HAVE ANY LEFT, don't deserve any further spamming or threats. But if the Host requests I will comply. Also, I will be posting some questions that I would have asked Arreal if she was on the hotseat in chatroom last night, and I was the outsider wondering about her character. I posted a letter I found that Arreal had sent me. Last night, I decided to do a search of my emails to see if there was anything that could back me up and I found the letter. To tell the truth I dont even remember receiving it. At the time I was getting so much email and IMs from ArReal that I don't even recall receiving it or what prompted her to send the email to me. Finally, what more can I say to those people on the outside who are my "Haters"? Do they want me to take a Lie Detector Test??? Or do they want to Impeach me? Okay Gator, I have work to do. Have a good one! Thanx for the coffee! As always it is your perogative to answer or not answer these questions. The Interrogator Letter Number Three (From last Nite) Subj: RedRoom Re Chat With Zeb Date: 10/24/00 11:29:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: E*****@aol.com To: interrogator01@hotmail.com Hey Gator, Sorry I didn't send redroom yesterday, I got caught up in the truth or dare, and time ran away. Personally GatorAidMan I was glad we got that reward. I have missed Zeb in the house because he would always set up discussion folders. He always had thought provoking ideas. I enjoy that. Seeing Zeb in the chatroom was like seeing a long lost friend. I hoped I would see Xenias name in the crowd but I didn't. Zeb did a great job. I was worried about the conflict with Arreal. Then she sent the banner, she didn't deserve to win? I couldn't understand what she meant. Then Roger asked Host to tell us why she left, and no response. Gatester, I had a continous run in with Arreal. I suspected she left because of me to the extent she realized the whole truth was going to come out if the conflict escalated even more. I had almost reached the point where I was going to post a very detailed account of the background of her IMs to me and the detail of what she had asked me to do. I felt confident that once the other guests knew exactly what went down, the questions would stop. The problem was I'd seen questions raised about me before and I rode them out, thinking its best not to answer them. I probably should have been more open - concerning the truth of Arreal's IMs to me. Angry words had exchanged btwn us these past few weeks. I really felt she would take her vengeance out on me on the outside, which I wouldn't see and couldn't defend. So, since she left on Sunday, and Host didn't give reasons like he did with Mantastic I felt I had to ask. Unfortunately from the questions in the chatroom, my suspicions were confirmed to some extent. Gator, this game is really stressful, I am not immune to feeling the stress transgress into my real world. Okay later gator, if I have "vascilated" I'm sorry buddy, but her sudden departure did impact me. |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 04:40 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Moondance - 04:02 pm Thank you When I did it... I forgot I had not told you my name! I like Ray & Luke! Stay in bed... drink warm liquids! What else are you doing to feel better! Hey May... pour one for me! Luke - 04:08 pm i'm probably going to sleep for about an hour... i don't think things will pick up here for at least another hour or so... if i miss anything, fill me in, okey dokey? Thanks, Moon... I'd give you a hug, but I could be virtually contagious! hehehe Himay10ns - 04:11 pm OK, guess I'll cook some dinner and check back in about an hour. See you guys later.... Moondance - 04:12 pm -Have a good Nap! Roger_Ramjet - 04:14 pm Ok, just got caught up after being in a long meeting this afternoon. Is anyone currently around right now??? Moondance - 04:19 pm Here! Roger_Ramjet - 04:24 pm Just the two of us?? You cried from nominations? Does that mean you couldn't keep them from being personal?? (I don't mean like you are personally attacking--I mean you take it personal that you have to do them) I hope you are ok----we should be seeing them soon, and for what it's worth, if you included me, I have absolutely no problem with that. I know you didn't come in here to lose!! LOL Hey Rabbit/Cow girl, what do you think of Vyk's posts under his discussion board topic about the game?? Do you have a take on it, or anything? Moondance - 04:30 pm I guess it becomes personal when I like you guys so much... Of course we nominate each other... that is the only fun out of it I haven't really concerned myself with the Vykin thing... I guess I have been busy playing the game and didn't really deal with it... I will get back to you on that one... how do you feel about it? Roger_Ramjet - 04:37 pm I made a big long post last night after he set it up, although before he posted all the stuff today. See if it's explanitory, or if I leave questions as to what I think. Is I mentioned to May earlier today, I tend not to form a strong judgement either way without hearing from a few others that have knowledge---Arreal, Host, Gail, Gator, and all the folks who sent and received messages. I didn't see anything I'm Vyk's first post that could give any edge to anyone. I know that for me, I could get all the messages in the world--hell I could have access to their whole board--and wouldn't do a damn thing any different. I came in here being me, and nothing is going to sway me doing that. |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 05:36 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Roger_Ramjet - 04:43 pm Intersting about the names and what goes with them. Some of all of those are me. Actually when I first signed up, I wanted Opus for a name, although it was already taken!! Can you believe that is from a cratoon as welll?? LOL Only it's a cartoon strip---well, was Berkley Breathed stopped making Bloom County, then Outland a number of years ago. The picture that I used as me in my profile is Opus. Someone I identify with very much. Sorry, that would be Berke Breathed Moondance - 04:55 pm <I know that for me, I could get all the messages in the world--hell I could have access to their whole board--and wouldn't do a damn thing any different. I came in here being me, and nothing is going to sway me doing that.> I completely agree! Same goes for me Opus! Roger_Ramjet - 05:00 pm There is one factor that for me is not a concern, although for some may make a difference. Some people are more comfortable knwoing what's going on "out there". That could make a difference in the stress levl of a BG....I don't know how much of a concern that is for any of us (as far as that being an advantage in gerneral--or not) btw, the Purple Snorkelwhacker is from Bloom County....I like him....he has stuff he brings out at night that challenges everything about you. At night, when all alone in bed, with only covers between you and him..... hehe Moondance - 05:07 pm I am thinking everyone needs a 'Purple Snorkelwhacker'! Roger_Ramjet - 05:09 pm Moon, Vyk, May, Luke---a couple of us have made posts about what would mke this game better--they all are about this group staying together in here longer!! I offer that you consider what that says about what Host has created and we've "brought to life". I think it makes quite a statement! Next on that topic, when we walk out of here Friday for some, Monday for others, we will experience huge...something...in how we will miss each other. I'll call this "paying the piper". Just think what "paying the piper" would feel like if we had 2 more weeks that were anything like the past couple of days. Those on the outside may question how real this virtual reality game is....I'm pretty sure we have a very good FEELING for that answer. Thoughts anyone????? Moon---I think everyone does have one. Just different levels of success in facing and/or dealing with what it brings! Moondance - 05:13 pm As long as we don't have to nominate or banish any of us in those 2 weeks We have have really bonded and like I said before ... I feel like you guys are family! Roger_Ramjet - 05:16 pm Moon, I think we all fell that way...I know that I can say that for sure!!! How would you feel IF you had to make nominations and banish after those two additional weeks?? Could you do it??? Moondance - 05:17 pm I guess I should have said we need to embrace our 'Purple Snorkelwhacker'! No it would make it worse... Roger_Ramjet - 05:20 pm I believe your first statement is true as well. We all do need one. Most everyone could benefit from a little internal humility. Well folks, nominations are posted! All of us are up for banishment! |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 06:06 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Moondance - 05:36 pm -Wow... we are all in it together! Hey did you see the challenge? Roger_Ramjet - 05:41 pm -Yes, I was just looking at it. This will be fun, I believe. Hey Moon, I thoght was pretty amazing what Luke wrote about you!!! And Luke--in BB and Survivor, you couldn't vote for yourself--it was a rule. I think the same would apply here. Moondance - 05:47 pm That was such a sweet thing Lukey wrote ... funny because I feel the same way... hard to explain but I feel a connection with him... he reminds me of my good friend... the one I want to set him up with...LOL and we have a brother-sister relationship. Notice Luke & I have never nominated each other and now we are a team... hey how did you guys get to have three? It is going to be an emotional day friday... Luke - 05:53 pm Hello everyone... I'm back again... although I'm going to jump in the shower... usually showers make me feel better after a day of lying sick in bed... nominations are in? i haven't seen them yet... Roger_Ramjet - 05:55 pm Yes, I see that you two didn't nominate each other...hell, except for me, you only got one vote the entire time before now!. That shows me how well you connect with everyone in here. To explain me voting for you, it's strictly knowing that you are so very popular, hence, my competition!! Luke - 05:56 pm what? all are up for banishment! hahaha! Roger_Ramjet - 05:57 pm Hey Luke!!! Good to have you back. CHALLENGE 9 - ROCK THE VOTE NOTE: This is a 2-part challenge. Once the first part is completed, you'll receive additional instructions. It's election season and the next U.S. President isn't the only thing being decided. The Game has it's own set of "initiatives" that need to be decided! Following is your ballot. Please vote for one Player in each category. Players you vote for must still be part of The Game; you cannot vote for banished Players. You can vote for yourself, if you're so inclined. You can also vote for the same Player in multiple categories. Sorry, but abstaining isn't allowed. You must cast a vote in every category. When you've made your selections, please copy the categories into an email, with a Player's name next to each, and send it to the Host@enbcom.com no later than 6:00 p.m. PST Wednesday. Which Player has the best sense of humor? What Player would you most like to meet in real life? What Player has been the most open about his/herself? Who has been the most guarded? Which Player seems to be the most even-tempered? Who seems to be the most volatile? Who seems to be the oddest? Which Player do you think is most gullible? Which Player posts too often? Who posts too little? Whose posts ramble the most? Whose posts are the most succint? What Player do you think has the most interesting real life? Which Player do you think will be part banished next? (We know two Players will be banished. We just want to know who you think one of those will be.) Which Player do you think will win? -------------------------------------- CHALLENGE 9 - ROCK THE VOTE PART 2 The ballots are in and counted, but our accountants from Price Waterhouse haven't given us the envelopes yet. You've each voted individually. Now, it's time to guess who won each category. You're divided into two teams: Team A: Himay, Vykin, and Roger Team B: Moondance and Luke Each team has been given a discussion area. Use your team's area to discuss who you think won each category. You may not simply say "I voted for.." and then tally things up to make your decision. Appoint a team captain and discuss who you think will receive the most votes for each category. When you have reached a consensus for your team, the captain will post your final answers in the folder provided. Deadline for final answer posting is 6:00 p.m. PST Friday. The team with the most correct answers wins. |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 06:30 pm  TEAM A -- HIMAY, VYKIN, AND ROGER Roger_Ramjet - 05:49 pm Well, I'll set up our board to work with. How about one of you two being captain?? After that last challenge, I'm going to be corporal Agarn (Larry Storch--F Troop) TEAM B -- MOONDANCE AND LUKE Moondance - 05:41 pm Hi Lukey Luke... looks like we are a team Luke - 05:58 pm Oh my gawd! this is going to be interesting! hehehehe THE LIVING ROOM Moondance - 05:59 pm -How ya feelin' Lukester? Luke - 06:00 pm yeah... again, i have to admit... I love tylenol! It does wonders for me--for some people i know, it doesn't do a thing... today it made me feel human again! Oh boy! new banner! I agree with it too!!! Roger_Ramjet - 06:01 pm Hey, did you guys see the banner?????!! ROFLMAO!!!!! Hey everyone outside---that was really funny--thanks for that! Luke - 06:04 pm BRB... shower time... "Gotta wash that man right outta my hair... gotta wash that man right outta my hair...!!!" Moondance - 06:07 pm -lol... luke! I used that shampoo in Feb. Roger_Ramjet - 06:08 pm Hey, quick run for food! be back shortly Luke - 06:15 pm Moon... I think that banishments this friday are going to be harder than i had originally anticipated... i imagine either me on the outside this weekend looking in on the people in here... or me in here, with one of you looking in from the outside... both options are getting me down! Luke - 06:16 pm vyk or may, are either of u around? Moondance - 06:25 pm I agree.. either way is going to be tough! May May... are you there? How about the Vikiness? |
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Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 06:56 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Luke - 06:29 pm Looks like it's just us too for right now... have you eaten yet? I was able to drag myself to the local Filipino restaurant for lunch, and I ordered enough to have left overs for tonite... Vykin - 06:29 pm hey roger, luking @ moon, just back i'm free all nite, what are we doing? I just read nominations. Congrats to us all!!!! ROFLMAO luke you mentioned that I was thinking same thing when i sent my stuff in, Seriously worst ones i had to do. I'm just gonna check back at the challenge which I almost missed today and checkk back here to see what our evening plans are. Himay10ns - 06:31 pm -Hi, just got off the phone with my sister. I see that noms are in...not so bad. I like the fact that the public gets to decide... Luke - 06:32 pm sounds good.. i've been here all day, except when i was sleeping... i'm pretty sure i'll be able to go into work tomorrow... so mooon, when are we gonna work on the challenge? gonna work on the challenge? Vykin - 06:41 pm -Great HIMays! listen Go check Challenge RIGHT NOW!!!! HIMAYS WR u will know what it means when u get there Moondance - 06:41 pm I don't know you guys feel up to truth or dare or do you want to try something else... I was thinking that we should all ask a question one at a time and everyone has to answer... if not up for suggestions Vykin - 06:42 pm Lukester forget the challenge, yours and Moons job is to fine tune your strip teases, leave the challenge to my group to deal with. Besides you're too sick to do the challenge properly. Moon I like that idea better than flipping back and forth wasting time waiting for response whether to take truth or dare. I need to catch up on some posts, so your idea sounds great I'm all for it! Himay10ns - 06:44 pm I'm WRight there with you Vyk!! hehehe Moondance - 06:45 pm -Vykiness... stop your tactics!... it won't work on my strp buddy! Roger_Ramjet - 06:46 pm Hello, back with food--I see evreyone is here!! Cool....hey Vyk--anything more you want to cover about the message thing?? I read all your posts. I hope that you weren't ever thinking about walking....frankly, I didn't want Arreal to. I still hold there are lots of mechanisms in our game to decide who should be here. Himay10ns - 06:47 pm Hey Moonie....do you think Host goofed when she said we tied for 4th? Don't you think she meant we tied for 3rd??? Hey WRoger...go check out Vyk's post in the challenge folder....hehehe Vykin - 06:49 pm Moon are you "mole ing" on my conversation with HiMay10ns? Roger good ur back read my message to HiMays follow instructions, watch out for Lukor and Ms. Rev. Sun Yun? Moon too, Luke - 06:50 pm Oh Vyk Vyk Vyk... please... you'll need to do better to be able to fool me that easily... (or at least get someone who looks better! hehehehehehe) HEY I just figured out how to BOLD! Vykin - 06:52 pm -Roger haven't I said enough? I will check that folder later, if any questions u have. However, Roger yesterday, yes I felt like it. Especially after the chat when my suspicions were confirmed. But Roger, let me be clear, I would NEVER have walked out without telling the 4 of you in here first. Okay I have an idea for Moondances suggestion: How about discussing Cults, and our opinions, or if we've had friends, or even ourselves ever pulled in. This includes groups such as the PromiseKeepers, Moonies, Hara Krishna Movement, any others? |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 07:15 pm  TEAM A -- HIMAY, VYKIN, ROGER Vykin - 06:37 pm OKay Sgt. STORCH 1. get that padlock out from Xenias Cell, I don't trust the opposition. 2.We will now designate this TheWarRoom!!!! OUr code on outside for only HIMay10ns, me and Roger will be: I have to go to the WR (dont' worry Moon and LUke will think we mean the washroom) but this shud be our signal for a meeting in here. 3. We have an advantage of 1 extra brain -lets use it! 4. Let's Whoop us some Butt! Himay10ns - 06:40 pm Woohooo! I get the ménage a trois!! OK, I have the code phrase memorized....we can sooooo win this one!! Roger_Ramjet - 06:42 pm I'm up for this one.... and! Himay10ns - 06:55 pm Team A sounds kinda boring.... I think we should be: Team Ménage "A" Trois I love this game..... Moondance - 06:59 pm (clipart of toothy grin) Himay10ns - 07:01 pm Moon...up for a little voyeurism tonight?? hehehe Roger_Ramjet - 07:01 pm Mole!! We gotta MOLE!!!!!!! A Moon-Mole! --------------------------------- TEAM B -- MOONDANCE AND LUKE Moondance - 06:49 pm Okay Lukey... things are nasty over in that 'other' folder... we will just win this on goodness They are bad.... very bad! Luke - 06:52 pm True... all we need to do is put our brains together... You and I have better instincts anyways as to how each person answered these questions... let me post them again... (Ed. note: See above where host posted challenge for questions) THE LIVING ROOM Moondance - 06:53 pm How Luke? Luke - 06:53 pm Believe it or not, I don't know what Moonies are... what kind of cult are they? Roger_Ramjet - 06:54 pm May, I saw that...hehe You are quite the DQ Dilly Bar! Vyk--I see you're ready for a battle! I love the smell of cooked oppenent in the morning! ok, that isn't true at all! burning flesh is bad! Moondance - 06:54 pm Hey leave my people out of it Vykin - 06:54 pm Hey LUKE TELL ME HOW TO BOLD? oops sorry about the caps, took me two weeks to figure out the clipart How can I be Bold? Lukester (side whisper to roger and himays for intelligence purposes I will refer to lukester as lukester to his face' but in relation to challenge i will call him LUKOR) Moondance - 06:55 pm so is that your question for the group Vy... we each get to respond with our answer <whispering>Luke don't tell him Roger_Ramjet - 06:58 pm Vyk--I was just offering a chance to say anything else after reading what we thought about your posts. I have no issues in term of tat stuff--just didn't want you to think you could say anything else if you had responses to our words. Himay10ns - 06:58 pm Bold....it's easy!!!! Just type a backslash \ then the letter b then a { then your text then a } no spaces between any of it! Try it! Roger_Ramjet - 07:00 pm sucks to be me haha works well! Luke - 07:01 pm -just goes to show you, Vyk... you may have three brains at work on your team, but the intelligence that Moon and I have outweigh all you three! I can even color! Hahahaha! Vykin - 07:01 pm Sgt Storch, I figure we have it nipped in the bud, after all we are dealing with: 1. A scaredy cat of spiders 2. A Gate crasher How can we lose? Luke, Moonies follow the teachings of Rev. Sun Yung?(damn i forget middle name) Moon, but there are so many other cults out there. There was the Heavens Gators (No pun intended against our fearless "Gator") and others One i know of is Children of God, and I will refer to that if we've decided on this topic Himay10ns - 07:03 pm MOON IS A PEEPING TINA!!!! Luke - 07:04 pm EXCUSE ME!!! I prefer the term "arachnophobe", thank you very much! Moondance - 07:04 pm Okay naked cop lover... are we playing Vykin - 07:05 pm Who cares Not Look Magazine Lookie, I'm color blind Roger_Ramjet - 07:05 pm Hey, May, ya feeling a little "feisty"?? hehe Moondance - 07:06 pm I just use my angel wings to make sure the things are on the up & up May |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 07:25 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Roger_Ramjet - 07:08 pm WE all have puffed our chests out a little (don't worry, I'm not looking in THAT way..right now). T&D tonight, or something else?? Vykin - 07:09 pm What are we playing I thought we will post thoughts on one topic are we now back to truth or dare? Are my feelings of being in a house full of schitzophrenics valid? Whats our plan? Cults to talk about or something else.??????? Himay10ns - 07:09 pm OH, we're just having some good clean fun. I was just teasin ya' my friend! Moondance - 07:13 pm Okay Vy you first You ask a question and we all have to respond It can be a truth or dare... everyone has to do it Himay10ns - 07:13 pm Let's have some FUN!!!!! Or are you guys up for something serious?? Roger_Ramjet - 07:14 pm Hey Luke, you ever seen the kind of spiders that don't need a web to catch their food??? They just jump on it and wipe it out....hehe...BIG spider...BIG spider...JUMP....yum yum May...kind of bummed you said CLEAN fun...lol! Luke - 07:17 pm I'm having a lot of fun with this! hehehe Himay10ns - 07:18 pm OMG, I just thought of the greatest DARE for everyone. I can't wait til my turn! muuuaaahhhaa Luke - 07:18 pm Okay... I'm ignoring anything that comes out of anyones mouth regarding those HORRID creatures with eight legs... (covering my ears with my palms) Vykin - 07:18 pm Okay give me 1 minute to think of question, oops never mind, my mind went into Cable Modem mode: If you were an animal what would you be and why? Moondance - 07:19 pm Vykiness where are you it's your turn! |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 07:58 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Himay10ns - 07:21 pm I would like to be a deer. They are the most elegant and beautiful creatures. Can't you just picture a gorgeous doe drinking water from a stream in the springtime? Ahhhhh..... Moondance - 07:21 pm Okay everyone has to answer I would want to be one of my cats ... first my cats eat & live better than I do! Cats are flexible, they get to nap any time, they can get anywhere and no one can find them... I love purring, they pay no rent and pay no taxes! Vykin - 07:24 pm LUKOR THE KOOKOR IS SMOKING CRACK AGAIN Luke - 07:26 pm easy... an eagle. I don't think there could be a more exhilarating feeling than to be able to soar so gracefully above the earth... I've even had recurring dreams that I'm an eagle... and I hate it when I wake up... It feels soooo wonderful to be able to fly like that... Roger_Ramjet - 07:26 pm whale---for how big they are, they are very gentle. Fairly smart, silent creature of the world Vykin - 07:28 pm I would like to be an eagle. I could soar over mountains and streams, through the sky, free, I swoop over oceans. My eagle eyes always sharp would take in all the majestic beauty this earth has to offer. Moondance - 07:28 pm -Okay who wants to go next? Roger_Ramjet - 07:29 pm you go Moon Vykin - 07:30 pm Oh Help Me Jesus! Lukor and I are now thinking alike! (I HAVE TO GET AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE!) Roger_Ramjet - 07:31 pm Vyk--Luke--hey, I can't tell them apart! Moondance - 07:31 pm Say one nice thing about each BG and one thing you wish they would do more and less of Luke - 07:32 pm -EXCUSE ME!!! I happen to be much better looking, thank you! Himay10ns - 07:33 pm ME ME ME ME ME!!!! This is a dare for everyone!! hehehe Go to www.adameve.com and pick out something from their online catalog that you would like to purchase. Come back to the LR and post the details about your pending purchase. WARNING: This site contains nudity and vile plastic projectiles. Roger_Ramjet - 07:38 pm Moon--very passionate inside more--talk about your experience in the business...no not THAT business, the Hollywood one! less--be less popular--I wan to win! Vyk--great insight! more--talk about what you've been through in life. less--worry about the message thing--you're fine! May--very loving heart more--talk about the thinks you like to do. less--worry about how many posts you do just because of the outside folks Luke--a fantastic person more--talak about the changes you are seeing in your life (like what you talked about last night) less--don't be as afraid of spiders! (they eat flies, and anything that eats flies is good!!) Vykin - 07:40 pm Ok who do i listen to Moon or Himays (thinking yep schitzophrenics they are!) Himay10ns - 07:41 pm Moon - A beautiful woman with such a sweet, sweet spirit! Roger - A very mild-mannered gentleman with a cool head in all situations. Vyk - A wonderfully funny and creative individual. Luke - A bright, talented, enthusiastic and witty soul. There isn't really anything that I want you to do more or less of. I just want you all to be yourselves and enjoy the next few days together. Roger_Ramjet - 07:41 pm May, when we get to yours, I won't be able to play. Our firewall prevents getting to such places. Moon, you read my post for your truth question last night...you pick something you think I'd like to see a woman in....if you'd be willing. Moondance - 07:42 pm RogerRabbit ... love his acceptance of others - more of his wildside ... be less popularity! MayDQ ... love her witt - more of togetherness(time permitted) ... less of a time zone MOVEVykiness ... Very Charming and want to know more - more of his jokes and Vykinfunniness ... less of the VykinGate Lukey ... I love him as a brother - more of his stripping ... less of his bedtime laptop (we want him awake)! Himay10ns - 07:43 pm OH, Roger!! I forgot you were at work. I retract my dare...I'll think of something else... Roger_Ramjet - 07:44 pm May cheated!! haha she didn't finish her peas Moondance - 07:45 pm -you guys were nicer than me ... sorry Himay10ns - 07:46 pm -I HATE peas!! They are little green sacs of GOO!! Roger_Ramjet - 07:47 pm May, that's fine---wouldn't you want to see what Moon picks out based on my response to her question?? (not to mention what everyone has to say) I'm fine with that and wouldn't mind a bit!! Luke - 07:48 pm Moon-you always know how to find the positive side of everything! I want you to assert yourself more, and eat less B&G to keep your beautiful figure! May-I know you have a caring and compassionate heart... I want you to make more daiquiris, and make less connections between food and sex... Hahaha! Vykin-I love your wit and sense of humor. I want to have more 1on1 chats with you, and I want you to worry less about that "outside info/IM" thing... I don't care what happened, I'm just glad you're in here. Roger--what can I say... I consider you as a very close friend. I want to hear more of your life experiences (all so far have interested me greatly), and be less perfectionistic (and I say this only because I think you're already perfect.) Roger_Ramjet - 07:48 pm I don't know Moon--look what I said about "less of" for you! LMAO!! Luke - 07:49 pm 15 minute dinner preparation break.. be right back! Moondance - 07:49 pm Roger is that your question for everyone... thats the game |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:06 pm  THE LIVING ROOM Roger_Ramjet - 07:51 pm What question..I didn't ask any question yet....huh Hey, Vyk hasn't answered Moon's question yet Moondance - 07:52 pm I don't know what I am talking about! wheres vykinesssss? Vykin - 07:52 pm AlphaBetical Response: Himay - understand busy schedule, Good posts its not the quantity but quality of posts which count to me. Loosen up, its a game! Have fun. Luke - In real life, I would probably like you as a friend. Wouldn't matter that you are gay. You can take a joke and not take offence. Stop Fretting about the Ex! Moon - In early days, you were one of the few inmates to post in my folders I appreciated it cuz I knew I was an "unknown" factor. Your list of hi's to ur friends seems similar to those of Arreals. I'm not sure how to take that, bcuz of the damage Arreal caused for all of us not just me. Roger You are philosophical in many of your posts. I would probably enjoy a philosophical discussing w/you in real life. You don't have to acknowledge people in compliments so often. We know in essence "your thoughts are there" Vykin You Rock Prez, u are funny, (at least to yourself) and serious other times Enough said about the Arreal/Tali crisis. You had your day in court move on. Its up to the Tribe Council to decide the verdict now. HIMAYS IS A CHEATER (oops can't say that she is teammate in the challenge. Moonie explain the illustrious title of Vykiness? is that HRM Vykiness? Also I promise another John story tonite which is almost done, and other funnies. The Laughter Does Nut Stop Here! Moondance - 07:58 pm Yes your hinneyness! MayDQ did you think of one Roger_Ramjet - 08:01 pm Do the one she suggested...if you are willing to pick for me Moon Himay10ns - 08:03 pm -GEEZ....you guys are tough nuts! Remember, I'm the non confrontational one!! OK, OK.... Roger - More food sex and less clothes. Moon - More cat stories and less flirting with Affinity. Luke - More stories about your life as a gay man and less sniffles. Vyk - More real life and less ArReal. |
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