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Luke | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:24 am  You bet I did! I haven't heard anything yet... have you? So many of my friends tried out for Survivor II, and were laughing at me that I liked BB better. I'm like... Sorry...! I don't do snakebites in the Outback very well! |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:25 am  I don't feel I really had any personal connection to those two players. Really haven't had a chance to talk to Man at all. I've read his posts but that is it. Tali I haven't talk to either. I may have made small judgements about her, but those are based on my insecurities. She seems to have an overpowering personality that kind of fills the room so I tend to back away and not get close. I don't mean over-powering in a negative way...more like center stage. Probably like Brittany tended to do. She seems bouncy and fills the area with her presence. That kind of person causes me to feel shy and intimidated until I can really get to know them. In that case...I hardly will ever make the first move. |
Luke | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:27 am  Hey did you guys see Vykin's post in the internet camera? |
Luke | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:29 am  No Way!!!! it's 12:30! I gotta get some shut eye (I have work tomorrow! aahhhh!) You guys gonna chill here for a while more? |
Roger_Ramjet | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:31 am  Luke--I haven't heard a thing. I'd like to do survivor, although BB would be a much tougher challenge for me. The bigger the challenge, the more likely I am to go after it. One of those who takes everything head on!! <<beer time--glug, glug>> Arreal---thanks for sharing. Hard to make the move sometimes! Nothing wrong with letting a person "come to you". Did you want to talk any more about the stuff we were talking about last night?? I hope it didn't bum you out, or anything like that. |
Luke | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:33 am  Everyone... I bid you all a good nite! Looking forward to more challenges tomorrow! |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:35 am  That's okay. I understand that the Bible was written centuries ago and is interpreted in many different ways, this is seen in the various different religions that all study the same Bible. I do veiw homosexuality a sin based on my understanding of the Bible and God. My own personal view is also that it is not a sin greater or lesser than the fact that I smoke. I was saying man views things as acceptable or unacceptable, society changes what it sees as right or wrong. Time tempers all that we find shocking. I see God as viewing everything considered sin, sin. Period. I also don't believe I, or anyone else has the right to pass judgement on others just because it doesn't fit with their perceptions of what okay is. I don't condemn you for being gay. I admire the fact that you as a person can stand up for what you believe is right. I don't agree that the behavior is Biblically correct. But that is my opinion. |
Roger_Ramjet | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:36 am  Luke, see you tomorrow!! Arreal, how much longer you willing to go? |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:38 am  No, not at all. I wasn't bummed a bit. I felt alittle hostility towards me in the chat room today. That bothered me. |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:39 am  lol, another hour??? |
Roger_Ramjet | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:45 am  Where were you getting the hostility from?? I think I could have had 3 people beat the shit out of me and I would have missed it!! I don't know what the general take of me is--guess I don't worry too much about it. I'll hang out and gab a long as you want the company. Were you surprised at anything you saw on the nominations?? |
Luke | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:54 am  Okay, last post and then I'm really going to get some shut eye... hehehe Thanks for your post Arreal... I think the best way to interact with people is to respect their beliefs, whether or not they are in line with yours. Not only is it the proper way to treat one another, but it also allows people to grow from one another as well. I guess I just have always seen sin as knowingly and willingly doing something to harm another--whether it be against God, or against another human. And in all honesty, I grew up believing that being gay was a sin. But then when I realized that being gay is so much more than sex--like commitment, honesty, integrity, and in fact, love, with another person of the same gender, then sex falls into its proper place as being an expression of all that. I even have an ex-lover who had trouble reconciling the fact that in the church's eyes, we were living a sin; but I just couldn't believe that a love that I really felt could ever be sinful. On the contrary, love of any type is, in my opinion, the exact opposite of what sin is. The bible is a little more complex of a matter, and Xenia was right in stating that I've come across the issue of the Bible and homosexuality many times before. Actually, she doesn't know just how right she was. I don't want to get deeply into it, but I guess different people have different ways of interpreting Scripture. I just would love to know what the authors of the Bible, those 1st century Christians who had a specific audience and place in mind, would say were they to know how the Bible is being used in the 21st century. Ugh... now it's really past my bedtime... you guys still got some energy left? |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:55 am  I was surprised that May is up for banishment. That really shocked me. I was Surprised also that Zeb didn't nominate me. lol Muzzy was saying stuff that I didn't understand, about me; such as give it up, get real, get a clue. I asked him waht he was talking about and they just said you'll never get it. That bugs me. I like to know what I do that people find offensive. Just saying stuff like Muzzy did, what's the purpose. It just causes confusion. |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:58 am  Always Luke. ((Hugs)) |
Roger_Ramjet | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:58 am  Some energy...it's hard for me to walk away from someone who has something to say. |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:00 am  Well, walk away and get some dern sleep...I also find it hard to walk away. lolol |
Luke | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:01 am  {{{hugs right backatcha, Arreal!}}} Now, I seriously tip my had and bid you an adieu! G'nite! |
Roger_Ramjet | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:03 am  If you are turning in Luke, have a good night. Arreal--get real?? If you are real, then nothing anyone says about that should matter. Who should know better than you! Now the get a clue--guess that depends on the context. It didn't sound like he provided much of that for you. Is he someone you've interacted with a lot during BB?? Why were your two surpises that way for you?? Why would you think Zeb would nominate you?? |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:15 am  hmmm... I am as real as I can be. I have different moods that can shift at the drop of a hat. On the outside I was very quiet at first, then I got passionate and later silly. Now I'm back to being more quiet and introspective. I ahve also dealt with people not believing in certain mental illness. I question if people are questioning that. I still have insecurities about being a likeable person. I have fears of the mental illness stigma. Statements that were made like those from Muzzy cause me to question a lot of things in myself and in others. Are they ignorant to issues around mental illness. Is it fear of mental illness? Is it just plain meaness? Or was it because he had valid issues with some aspect of me? If they were valid issues, I would like to understand them. I've never interacted with Muzzy as far as I know. With May, more suprized that so many nominated her. I guess I'm looking for possible personal issues as being criteria for nominating people. Zeb, more so because we flipped each other sh*t out there and in here, seem to view things similar, but to different levels. I thought he was an obnoxious a$$ out there. In here, I kinda like him. |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:17 am  What do you think about the nominations? |
Roger_Ramjet | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:28 am  Well, I thought/still think that you match up very well between how you were out there and how you are in here. All kinds of people will question. seems we are good at that (humans in general). We seem to have been down a wrong road too many times, and are wary of just about everyone at first. Then of course as the learning curve kicks in, various levels of learning take place. If switching around in moods or feelings is who you are, then...well there you go! It's you! No judgement if good or bad--just who you are Based on what people wrote, the criteria people used seems to be all over the board, so to speak! I figure as varied as the people placed in here, there will be as varied of ways at looking at nominations. IMHO Zeb--I could be wrong about him (and I'll be happy to have him correct me) although it seems he's pretty close to being a match to out there. Out there he just had more who would get him going. He has an edge about being stright up and a bit in your face--although pretty much from an issue manner. He might pick up on an issue that most won't--just him noticing something a bit different. I think he has no problem someone having a very differnt view, as long as you keep that view. He is leary of somone who wavers, and pounches on it if he sences it. Keep the chin up if you can. It seems you are doing well in here, and hope you are doing well out there as well!!! The proof will be in the pudding that not everyone will let you down!! |
Roger_Ramjet | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:29 am  In what way or ways?? (about your nomination question) |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:34 am  Were you surprized at all by any of the nominations and those who are up for banishment. What is your take on it? |
Roger_Ramjet | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:43 am  I wasn't sure how Tali was going to approach them. An interesting criteria!! hard to take that one to personal?? (she didn't include you though) Probably figured since you are married, you won't be going after the guys! I thought Vykin might pick me because he ws concerned I ws switching our contacts--of course I think I took care of that right off the bat, as he has soft lenses, and I have hard lenses. Other than that, I thought it panned out about like I figured. I did think I'd geta couple votes, although I was looking at it from my angle--in that respect I figred Zeb would include me--he knows I want to win, and told him so on the outside. We had a little back and forth about that. Just some comptetitive jousting. On voting, I have no idea what to expect. I can't see tem out there. Just have nothing to base it on. Like I said earlier, I liked the approach of showing us all. It's another form of communication to help us deal with each other. Not from the perspective of who got nominated--in the respect of its' another data point on how "real" we are being with those! |
Arreal | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:49 am  I didn't mean on who you thot would get banished, we can't know that. I hope I don't, but it's up to them. I can see good things either staying or going. Looks like Xenia is begging to be banished. I thot Tali did nominate me. I could have swore. |
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