Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 02:46 pm  Moon--are you still here?? Anyone else around?? Roger thinking to himself--<I sure hope no one is pissed that I've been asking these qusetions without the whole group being around...> |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 02:58 pm  My Mom called! Okay I am back... |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:00 pm  The thing I can't get out of my mind is that... the host's answer to my ? about it being a successful mission by landing where it did... |
Xenia | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:04 pm  I think Luke's theory is brilliant. From my experience with cows (I grew up on a dairy farm) wherever cows graze the ground seems to be extremely solid with the dirt being packed down because of their weight. Landing there would almost be like landing on pavement. I want to agree with Moon's theory about the brakes. I think there's something to it. But what exactly would "stop the momentum the plane" if he landed amongst livestock? The livestock? I don't think so. As far as there being military operations nearby, I think that's a bit of a stretch. There is a simple logistical reason why the pilot would land on rough terran not some dramatic one. We just need to figure out that reason. Let's let Tali be the leader on this one. |
Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:06 pm  Moon--glad to have you back from whatever "chores" you were doing here in the house. (hey, I'm not supposed to know you have a life outside of the house! I asked a couple more questions and Arreal jumped in as well. Host had closed the questioning, indicating we have enough information to supply an answer. I'd like to suggest getting everyone together at some point, going over all the questions/answers, and seeing what the consensus is on what we want to give for an answer. Based on what we have there are still acouple of possible answers to choose from. Is it time for a cold one? |
Xenia | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:07 pm  I screwed up. I just came from the Question area and realized this challenge does have a military theme. I have to ponder this a bit more... |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:07 pm  Xenia ... have you read the ? area...? Tali would be great but she is not here right now |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:11 pm  sorry Xenia we posted at the same time you are right Roger... lets get them over here so thy can check it out |
Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:15 pm  Hi Xenia! Glad to have you here. Did you read all the questions/answers yet?? We have a lot of information at this point--yeah Moon-I saw that--seems the mission a success when he lands there--and also that there are landmine/traps. One thing we haven't been able to find out is if these landmines/ traps are on the clear area, the rough area, or both. (the question was are there landmines or traps left by the other military unit. Considering that both areas can handle the jet landing and that there are no people on the clear area, it seems logical to think that the traps are on the clear area...although maybe the rest of you guys can add some additinal thoughts/options to consider. |
Vykin | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:17 pm  Roger I think you should take the leadership on this one. Could it be the pilot who landed near enemy lines in Kosovo? |
Xenia | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:17 pm  Just off the top of my head... What if this military plane was flying close to the border of two countries. The flat-area terrain belonged to a hostile country and the one with the rough terrain belonged to an ally? |
Xenia | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:19 pm  Yay Vykin! You know what they about great minds! |
Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:21 pm  I just checked our challenge. The question we must provide an answer to is why the pilot chose to to land in the rough terrain area. We just need to be sure our answer addresses that specific question, and not hit on other issues. Me thinkst we have a sharp Host, and need to be aware of how she/he/they will take our answer and match it against the question posed. Just MHO |
Xenia | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:21 pm  Tali still isn't around? Then Roger, you be the leader. |
Vykin | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:23 pm  Okay give me a minute and I'll put all the Yes's into order for us to go over |
Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:26 pm  Xenia (others)--we have till noon Sunday?? Unless you folks see any problems, we can wait for Tali--and the others--to join in?? Would that be better, since it's a group challenge, or do you guys feel compelled to get an answer worked up right away? Vykin--an interesting possibility. Not being very familiar with that incident, was there a reason he landed where he did?? (wow, great grammar) |
Arreal | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:27 pm  I nominate Roger. I think you two, Roger & Xenia, are doing a great job with questions and thinking things out. I apologize for not being more help, I just don't have very many ideas when it comes to military things. I'm impressed by both of you. I hope I can be more help in the next group challenge. |
Vykin | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:27 pm  Here is what we know: 1. There's an inflight emergency 2. Pilot is flying the plane 3. Both landing sites have enuff room to land 4. Aircraft has mechanical problem 5. Aircraft has jetplane engine 6. Its a Military Craft 7. Landing in rought terrain as choice cuz of issues needing to be addressed on the ground 8. Military Equipment in Clear landing area 9. It is a Tactical Fighter craft 10 Equipment in Clear area belongs to another govt. It is a weapon 11 Time of year is summer 12 Aircraft has Live ammo on board 13 Pilot aware of enemy equipment 14 It is Wartime 15 Clear area in same country, as rough terrain area 16 Mission will be successful if pilot lands in rough terrain |
Vykin | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:31 pm  Roger perhaps Arreal can assist us a little more with the Kosovo pilot, he was from her area. I think his first name is Scott. If I recall correctly he ejected from the plane, plane crashed within enemy lines, but he was safe. (sure wish I could call the Pentagon on this one to confirm, but Host took away my satellite phone) |
Arreal | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:38 pm  Wasn't it Scott Grady? |
Vykin | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:40 pm  The pilot I referr to is Scott Grady, however, anyone with psychic powers, Xenia perhaps you could jump in with all the potions and crystals you brought and draw on the powers that be to confirm or deny if this is situation to whom BigHost refers to |
Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:41 pm  Vykin--how can anyone get by without their atellite phone--that meany Host! hehe One thing to include in your list that might be important was that there are lanmines or traps left by the enemy. We don't know where they are (which landing area) I wonder if the plane was hit by weapons?? The pilot was not injured, based on an answer porived(we should verify what I just said) by looking back). By landing, the pilot would successfuly complete a mission of not crashing! Without any people on the clear section, it would seem that 1) it's mined/trapped, 2) the weapon on the clear area could automatically track the plane (maybe it shot the plane??) he weapon wasn't atomic or thermonuc, still lots of possibilities on that. We never asked if there was another aircraft in the area, nor did we get a chance to sk if the aircraft that landed had been hit by some type of weapon--I was going to head that direction with questions, although it got shut down before I could do it...sorry I didn't make it. |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:53 pm  It could be a sucide mission??? Yes, we need to wait to get everyone's opinion! I vote Roger to be team captain too! |
Vykin | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 03:57 pm  Roger, thats exactly why I think you should be the leader on this one. "By landing, the pilot would successfuly complete a mission of not crashing!" Well technically if the pilot ejects he isn't crash landing, though his aircraft may. Don't know why the Big H cut off the questions so quickly either. |
Xenia | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 04:03 pm  LOL Vykin! I remember Scott Grady. I don't remember the details of why he went down. I just remember he ate bugs to stay alive. Do we agree that the pilot's landing choice has more to do with what is going on politically on the ground than for the sole logistic reasons of wanting to land the plane safely? Because if we do, then that's a good place to start narrowing down the choices. |