Did these players read the rules?????
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Did these players read the rules?????
Noslonna | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:30 pm  Just when it was starting to be fun... |
Whit4you | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:34 pm  Well I am in NO way mad at Neil for any of this, He's taken hundreds of hours to put this game together for OUR enjoyment!!! This is a unchartered territory and we all went into it knowing this, the players AND us the "viewers" although at this point I'm no longer questioning my belief that we are players in this game as well. Possibly more so then THEY are because we are getting "Way more involved" since we are involved on this side AND watching the other side. As far as the new prize well I think it's awesome but - because it's a desireable prize, what then happens is rules would or should be made more clear. I am sure the contract with those houseguests regarding rules was 20 pages long. This game was meant to be in fun. There are a few players there who would really like to win that prize, so now there's alot more issues involved. Namely what is and isn't cheating. The rules state that they are to be sequestererd, I think there is no way that Gail can ethically state she didn't know she was breaking the rules here. My guess is if she stops and thinks about this she will voluntarily resign. I hope the outcome for her is good and that we all understand that we were not "THERE" at the time so we really can't judge her. The other two well - based on the converstations as they came down it's clear they both became increasingly aware that it was wrong, ArReal decided to fess up and has left it up to the moderator. I hope that he leaves it up to the players involved since there is a prize of value involved here. This is a learning experience for ALL involved, the rules were not stated clearly enough I guess, I think as you can see by all the guests reactions and our reactions - we clearly believed that them chatting in private amongst themselves was against the rules. (Neil we luv ya - good luck!) Whit |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:35 pm  the part about no special priveleges is wrong. gail posted OUTSIDE on 10/8, after being sequestered. the bgs should know this or they aren't making an informed decision. not telling this fact is further deception. |
Katie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:07 pm  I feel that we were all lied to here. Gail has posted here since and to me that is clearly breaking the rules. I would like her to voluntarily leave the game because of this but if she did I would have no problems with her. I just don't like lies and deceit. ArReal has come clean about everything and without anything being forced out of her while the others have only revealed what they know when forced to. |
Noslonna | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:27 pm  Katie what is the "lie" we are being told? |
Katie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:33 pm  First of all we were told that moderators couldn't and weren't going to be playing the game but one is. That is a lie. Next Vykin denied knowing anything but then had to tell that what ArReal was saying did happen. There is another lie. We were led to believe that Vykin was just one person just like the others when in fact he is more then one. That is another lie. They weren't open to us and that to me is lying. |
Whit4you | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:40 pm  Look I have not seen ANYWHERE in the posted rules, or even implied rules where moderators were not allowed to play this game. To begin with the prize was for a TSHIRT for goodness sakes- so why say someone who volunteered 50 hours a week here to make this a better place was not allowed to play the game??? I have to assume that since several of you are saying that it was stated that a moderator can not play that you read it in a post somewhere. I'd like to SEE the post and who was posting it etc. Gail has made it clear now that she will not accept the CD player prize so that solves the conflict of interest situation that reared it's ugly head the second it became an issue. I personally appreciate the time the moderators spend here and do not for a 2nd think that they should be disqualifed to play a game on this board - not if the prize is something like a tshirt. If the prize is for something bigger - then yes the person writing the rules has some issues to decide on "about appearance of playing favorites" etc. Anyhow I just don't get all this saying she broke the rules because of being a moderator on this board. I'd like to see it in the rules or even as an implied rule. Guarantee the no chatting in private amongst themselves was an implied rule so - and roger made it clear to her before the ArReal / Vykin chat that it was against the rules - there we have it. Whit |
Thoughtpolice | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:50 pm  Gail was the poster who told Kearie that moderators were not going to be allowed to participate in the Game - due to unfair advantage. (October 3rd - Big Brother Archives). |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:54 pm  Excellent research, Thoughtpolice. The business about T/R/Gail should be allowed to play because she deserved to because of all her time spent is bogus. That is not the issue. Certainly she deserves to play -- but not like this. I saw her long, long post but I don't have time to read it now. But it doesn't matter because the damage is done. She broke the rules on more than one occasion. Unless Host is playing favorites, she must be taken out of the game or withdraw. |
Whit4you | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:57 pm  Unfair advantage to what? Win a Tshirt???? LOL (That was the initial prize here) Unfair advantage to be picked to play? That'd be my guess? Personally I have no problem with someone who's put 50 hours a week into this chat to make it better for all of us having a weighted chance of getting a spot in the initial game. But that's me. Whit |
Whit4you | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:01 pm  No I personally think she should voluntarily withdraw, and make a formal apology to everyone involved NOT for being gail, for playing as someone "else" or any of that. But for breaking the rules, no matter how you can try and twist them she knows. If she doesn't voluntarily withdraw I think the other BGs should take a poll and decide if she should remain or not. Regardless she wont win - not now, so if they wish for her to remain then they do, I'd say. |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:12 pm  the "rule" that she broke, which concerns me, is not a game rule anyway. i'm talking about a BOARD RULE which can be found under "join the club" at the top of the screen. it clearly says "only one board name will be allowed per member, anyone breaking this rule will be banned from the club" (i may have the quote a little wrong since i'm posting from memory, but the intent is accurate-look it up) gail has posted ON THIS BOARD as both ryder and gail! clearly this demands her banishment from the club. i think she deserves a second chance myself as i have nothing but respect for her. clearly, neil knew it and allowed it. how many others are also allowed more than one name? and shouldn't we be told? in addition, gail posted outside the game on 10/8 and that's against the game rules. so who are the rules for? are they rules or only suggestions? shouldn't all members have to abide by the same rules? if we don't all have to follow the same rules then there are really TWO CLUBS, one for those with SPECIAL PRIVELEGES and one for the rest of us peons. what we seem to have is upper class members and lower class members, some more important and priveleged than others. if that's the case it should be stated clearly in the board rules. gail, as a moderator is charged with the responsibility of enforcing the rules of the club, not breaking them. make the club fair for all of us, please! |
Katie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:14 pm  I think that she shouldn't have been put in this game this time. It should have been for just the regular board members and when it was done there should have been a game for the moderators to play. They could shut down a lot of the board and just leave the game portion going. I think it would be more fair for a moderator to play against moderator. I guess I personally don't know what they can and can't do to this board and if how and if they can get in here so I would prefer it all being equal. |
Maiden | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:18 pm  Just got my account here and wanted to say hi and how much I appreciate the maturity of the post on this board. I love the game and wish I could participate more. I hope that the few times I do post will be as fun and thought provoking as most of the post I've seen here. You guys, please keep up the good work. As for the game, what a pleasure! It has helped feed my hunger for personality studies. I think the Host made a good call in letting the BG decide what to do with Tali/Gail/Ryder scenario. Do Not Kill The Games! |
Admin | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:27 pm  RE: Question from Players asking if Vykin is two or more players This question was answered YES in error. The actual answer is NO. Sorry for any confusion. This was not meant as a deliberate attempt to stir trouble, it was a legitimate error on MY part. Please accept my apologies and don't judge the entire game based on this false answer. |
Noslonna | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:41 pm  Et tu Brutenb? |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 06:52 pm  ROFLMAOWMP Nos!!! No, don't kill the Game!!! (I'm addicted). Get Gail to resign, and =consider= enforcing the rules. JMO |
Wcv63 | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:36 pm  Actually since Gail could never at any point win the game what is to be gained by her resignation? A sense of fair play? Perhaps if the others want her to stay in she should stay and then attempt to make a mark based on everyone being on the same footing. Additionally, Gail should explain how she posted on 10/8 if her access and advantages/disadvantages are the same as every other player. |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:54 pm  Sense of fair play. Obviously, when she posted 10/8, this is proof her access is different than the others. It usually is, what with being a moderator and all. |
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