Did ya vote for ArReal? If so please share why?
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Whit4you | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 09:08 pm  I feel that if ArReal does get banished that she will have a right to know why. I really feel that after all that's happened, and all she's been through here. That she should have a right to know why after disclosing that herself - and two other board members were breaking the rules that she was the one banished. I'd like you to please state it as gently as you can ok? She's a real person with real feelings and I think you can just offer her an explination without causing her any more hurt/ pain etc. This isn't a "bash" ArReal thread - please DON'T use it as such your vote - spoke for itself. I just feel that if it were me in her shoes and I were banished over two other folks who broke the rules and so on and so forth etc that I deserve to know why. So far she's recieved 23 votes - and it would be nice to see all of you offer, a civil explination so she does not have to walk out the door and feel she's been persecuted. |
Tvfan | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 10:09 pm  Now I am confused. Earlier this week, people were posting to please vote her out because of her mental health. What do you think ArReal will think about that? Now, it's banish Gail. So, it now looks as though the people that were concerned about her think it's better for her to stay in? I don't have a problem with any of the players or about the Tali/ArReal/Vykin thing. I think they're all cool in their own way. |
Whit4you | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 11:56 pm  A little confused here - I thought the majority of posters who were requesting a revote - were doing so because thier first vote was done prior to learning of one of the posters violating at least one (if not more of the rules) For some reason - I thought that they were referring to Gail - ( the three of them broke an implied rule - she broke that and at least one clearly stated rule) Now it appears based on 27 votes that perhaps you were all demanding a re-vote because you wanted to vote ArReal out instead??? I asked for any of the 23 (now 27) who voted ArReal out to help clarify this for me but not one has posted here yet. So now I am just trying to figure out IF - all of those who were requesting the board be reopened were in fact doing so to vote ArReal out not Tali??? Seems a little strange to me - I was under the impression that the re-vote was called because of a BG (Tali) Breaking a clear rule, thus giving the voters a chance to decide if she should be banished because of it. I can't quiet understand if that is the case - why in the end it looks like ArReal may be banished because the vote was retaken do to Gail's rule breaking. Could those of you who were asking for a revote - please clear this up for me before I totally lose my mind. LOL Where you asking for the vote to be reopened because Tali broke the rules - so that you could then vote out ArReal???? I fully understand that ArReal and Vykin broke a rule that unfortunately can be twisted to make them appear to have not intentionally blatantly broken it. I also understand that while Gail having been told clearly 2 nights prior that chatting in private was against the rules (as another houseguest understood them) Ok? I do understand all this. What I do not understand here is how the 27 of yuo who voted for her - can justify requestiong the reopening the board because of Gail's breaking the rules - in order to then vote ArReal out. I personally thought that Gail should be given all the info she needed to either make full amends - to those she's hurt and resign. That didn't happen. Now it appears that ArReal may be banished because Gail choose to break the rules thus allowing a revote (for ArReal???) Um - it'd be alot of help to me at least if SOME of you who voted her out could clear this up for me. I think once you address this - it will help in trying to sort this out if ArReal DOES get banished on Monday - when in fact she wasn't GOING to be banished had the board NOT been reopened because of ANOTHER BG breaking the rules. Definately think regarless of how you feel about her personally - this is going to cause alot of confusion on HER part. I appreciate your time in clearing this confusing situation up for me. (Have to assume I am NOT the only one confused by this turn of events!!) Whit |
Norequerdo | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 05:21 am  I will start by saying I did'nt vote ArReal out. I actually voted for Xenia. But I am the one that put in Game suggestions that there be a re-vote. I did it because people were getting all bent out of shape over the Talisker thing. I felt and still do feel that it is much ado about nothing. Even the players seem to want her to stay in the game. It could be that people are voting her out because they support Talisker and want her to stay in the game and I am speculating that perhaps they think that ArReal started the whole mess. I don't know. She is probably better out of the game anyway because if it gets this ugly on the first vote imagine how ugly it is going to get down the road. |
Ocean_Islands | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 05:24 am  So I guess you finally figured out how to vote more than once and you voted 35 times for ArReal. |
Norequerdo | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 05:40 am  LOL. Does she have 35 votes already???? Seriously I thought this thread was a serious one and one that whit wants to stay on topic. Why don't we take this mutual bashing society to another board. You can start the new folder. I started the last. LOL |
Nulovesire | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 06:21 am  I voted because I want Talisker to stay in the game and ArReal was the person who was closest to Talisker in votes. If someoone else had been closer I would have voted for them. |
Ocean_Islands | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 06:40 am  You're not explaining why you want Talisker to stay in the game. |
Solos | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 07:05 am  I never voted in the first round...I was still trying to catch onto the game and BGs. With all that has been revealed I "think" Arreal could of handled things differently. I think it was much to do about nothing,and all three of them were chatting on IM. One is as guility as the other. Now the question remains ? " what was said about the Game " ?? From what I understand NOTHING was said about the Game, only that Gail confided to Arreal & Vykin who she was....What Arreal choose to do with that information imho she handled poorly! Vykin stayed true to himself and this information made no difference to him. I also find it odd that Arreal contacted one of the spectors to tell them of her possibly exit from the game.Again, imho this should of been done AFTER Arreal was gone from the game? This was in direct reference to the events of the Game and its outcome. Why admit defeat and want to leave if you have done no wrong ? I can see where Arreal would be confused,but this is a Game and Arreal should of confronted Gail on the information she was given in front of the other bgs. I voted for Arreal, for not handling the situation well and also violating another rule by contacting someone outside the house in a private e-mail, after the main situation came to light. |
Notbored | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 07:28 am  I'm normally a lurker here. I don't come in very often but decided to see what it was like. I can see it's not much different than the whole BB thing. I voted for Arreal for several reasons. 1. I don't think she is very real. 2. As a former nursing ass't in a nursing home, I know what it is like to have someone not show up. Nursing homes are not overly staffed. When someone calls in it means that they have to scramble to find someone to cover, if they even can. That or it means you work short and that is hard not only for your fellow workers but for the residents as well. For 10 days? I'm not belittling her depression but did she call every day or did she let them know this was a case where it was going to be awhile before she could be back to work? Did she have a doctor's excuse? Even if she did I can understand where the management is coming from, they need people who can be there. As far as having to be supervised when she came to visit. It makes me think there is much more to this story than the one-sided view we are hearing. 3.She went way overboard on this whole Tali, Vyk thing. Reminds me of back in grade school when someone would know something and keep going on about "I know something I won't tell!!" Putting others on the defensive. Childish. 4. If Arreal/Kearie is truly as mentally ill as she would like everyone to believe I think she needs to spend her time working to get well, not playing a cyber game and pusing the limits of her paranoia. I'm sure this will all be considered bashing by the Arreal supporters. I don't think it is and don't really care what all of you think. Just letting you know how I see it. |
Whit4you | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 08:27 am  Ok I so far 3 of the 30 people who voted for ArReal have responded. Thank you for the feedback. Still totally confused however - have to assume there aer a whole lot of regular posters here who voted for her as well, since they were the ones demanding a revote - would be very helpful if you could sound off here. At this point I don't even think I need a "reason" just that you requested the revote to select ArReal. At least then I'll know that my interpretation is correct (that those requesting the ReVote wanted a chance to vote ArReal out - after she'd already cleared the last vote) At least then we will know that a several of the regulars here really did want to revote to vote ArReal out of this game (based on what I don't know but at this point just knowing that was what you wanted the poll redone for is enough to clear my mind on this) Thank you to the three who took the time to respond - any response from the other 27 would be greatly appreciated. Whitney |
Digilady | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 08:38 am  Nor, you weren't the only one who requested a revote. So did I, so did Nik and several others that I can't remember. As to how it turns out? Fairly. If ArReal goes, so be it. Tal: so be it. At least it was a fair thing to do, that re-vote. |
Nance | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 08:39 am  Arreal to Vyk, Vyk.... I have not had any contact with my fans or anyone other than you house guests at all since yesterday evening. I know you doubt my trust and I can understand that, however, I have no idea what is happening on the outside. My computer is giving me enough trouble today. I switched my vote to Arreal last night for the above reason. Someone is lying and I know it's not me!!! Vyk is suspect and Arreal seems to be the one caught up in lies. Tali is letting the chips fall where they may, the bgs don't want her out. I don't really care if Tali goes or stays. All 3 were in a chat, but I doubt that has anything to do with the root of the promblem,I think there is more to this and I can only go off of the information I have.Arreal is NOT telling the truth and I have to agree with gail even with her keeping a low profile now...that several of the bgs are getting information. |
Lisduane | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 08:43 am  I voted ArReal out because there is something about her that just annoys me. I can't say what it is, she just annoys me. |
Kimber1011 | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 08:58 am  I agree with Lisduane. There was something about Areal that irritated me. I think the deciding factor for me was some of her discussions in the homosexuality topic. (i.e.- equating being gay with having a disease). I voted for May for the similar reasons. Arreal's mental health had little to do with my decision and the recent scandal had less because I voted early. |
Whit4you | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 09:15 am  Nance - Thanks No need for further explinations (do not want this to turn into a "who done it" thread (You already addressed the issue I needed addressed) However if you care to would you clarify if the cut and paste - was in reference to your reason "lying" given? Unsure if you mean that because she was had talked to a friend regarding her computer being down that meant she was lying to Vyk in that post. That post was in reference to him posting in their game some inside information regarding her "fans" making fake names to vote Tali out. Her response was to let him know she hadn't been discussing the game with anyone outside the board. As I said you don't need to clear this up - just unsure what the "cut and paste" was regarding - My concern her is if the true intentions of revoting here was to banish ArReal who'd already passed the orignal vote. You've given me the information needed thanks for your time. Whitney |
Whit4you | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 09:23 am  Kimber1011 "(snip) I voted for May for the similar reasons. Arreal's mental health had little to do with my decision and the recent scandal had less because I voted early" Kimber - Hi! Thank you for the response. That's 5 of the 30. Getting somewhere now. You've already addressed the issue I needed addressed. If care to though could you clear up one thing I don't understand? You said you voted for May - and ArReal. This Revote is only for one person, just wondering if you are referring to your original vote (the two person vote) or THIS Revote? |
Katie | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 11:19 am  I also find it odd that Arreal contacted one of the spectors to tell them of her possibly exit from the game.Again, imho this should of been done AFTER Arreal was gone from the game? This was done AFTER she had contacted the host asking about leaving. She hadn't heard back from the Host yet but in her mind she was as good as gone. Then her computer went down and we were out of contact until the next day. At this point, I was in contact with her at the request of the Host to find out what she was going to do because the host hadn't heard back to her from the email they had sent her during her computer problems. The host had asked her to stay and that there was a revote going on but hadn't heard back from her and needed an answer. I hope this clears this up. |
Lafatme | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 12:45 pm  katie, i don't think it's against the rules for a BG to give info to an OS. it's the other way around that breaks the rules, i think. also, when josh got info from brit posters were BEGGING for him to tell. now that arreal got info from gail she's being put down for it. either ALL BGs should know or NONE should know. that keeps it fair. arreal didn't want the info, never asked for it, and asked host what to do with it. what did she do wrong? she told the truth, after being told to do so by host. at the same time gail broke at least 3 rules and yet it's arreal's fault for telling, not gail's for doing. no honest person should be expected to preserve a secret when it pertains to something dishonest which could affect others. unless you're a priest or attorney. if an acquaintance tells you he murdered someone, in confidence, do you keep that secret? doesn't that make you an acomplice? seems like people have screwy values these days. |
Janrudsen | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 02:39 pm  Long time Lurker....first time poster here. First vote was for Xenia. Revote was for ArReal. |
Max | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 04:24 pm  Geez, I go away for a couple of days and all he11 breaks loose! I have no idea what preciptated all this as I haven't had time to read all the threads. I'll just respond to why I voted the way I did. First time, I voted Xenia and ArReal. Second time, I voted ArReal. This is simply based on who irritates me the most. ArReal/Kearie's posts irritated me during real BB, too, so at least she's consistent. In the category of "who is most in need of a real life", ArReal wins, hands down. This is supposed to be fun and people who start taking everything they read from other posters as serious, life-changing stuff, need to get a grip. None of us can be sure who the other posters really are. It's VIRTUAL reality and imaginations, creativity, and role-playing are all susceptible to running rampant. That's half the fun. Just my opinion. Perhaps if I met ArReal/Kearie in real life, I'd like her just fine. |
Azriel1104 | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 04:52 pm  Lafatme, if Arreal had never gone into the chat she wouldn't have had the 'big secret' I don't care who asked who to join them in chat, anyone that went into that chat should have known it was not in keeping with the game and would be looked upon as cheating. Tali, Arreal and Vykin are all equally guilty of doing this. I find it hard to see it as 'honorable', as some have suggested, that Arreal had a guilty conscience afterwards and spilled the beans. It was good for us that she did so we know who is cheating, but I don't think it makes her look better in this than Tali or Vykin. |
Lafatme | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 05:18 pm  az, wait. my point is that , let's say "joeschmoe" invites arreal into a chat, how would she know it had anything to do with the game? how would vyk recognize WHO was asking him into a private chat room? do you see what i mean? it's not against the rules to enter a private chat room on aol. did any of theBGs know the aol screenames of the other BGs? how? especially vyk's? gail had to know she was inviting vyk somehow but how did he contact arreal to invite her? and did she know it was him? HOW? |
Whit4you | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 05:30 pm  Hmm ok my intentions here wasn't to start any ArReal or Tali bashing posts when people post. Instead of just asking for a "reason" - I guess I just need to ask the specific question I am addressing here to those who did vote for her. So far of the 8 who voted for her who've posted here - only 2 appear to have changed their vote do to the revote. So let me try this again in a way that might ease the potential for someone bashing your reason for banishing her. This is more of a poll the jury to determine if all those who voted for her - WANTED/ or requested this revote in order to change their vote and vote her out. For the remaining 28 who wish to contribute to this - you can either explain your reason - OR state if A) Your vote didn't change so therefore the revote was not necessary B) You wanted/ or requested the revote because your vote DID change, and you wanted to vote ArReal out based on facts obtained AFTER you'd already voted. I hope this will make it easier for the other 28 who wish to help resolve this to post their response. Attacking the persons reason was never my intention - I only wanted to know the reason to determine if the voter WANTED this revote - to change their vote (Vote ArReal out) If A or B don't fit for you feel free to reword them LOL. Thanks again for your time Whitney |
Azriel1104 | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 05:43 pm  How? I don't know how they arranged to meet in the chatroom. I don't know who initiated it, it could have been through email, I really don't know, but it sounded like they knew they were going into the chatroom to talk to Talisker. I believe that Arreal said she thought they were going to talk about Talisker's mother. Katie made a good case that she should have the right to go on talking to Arreal about personal things. They were good friends and talked before the game, but Arreal, Vykin and Talisker were not friends before the game. If they answered some unknown chat request and then got in the room and found out 'Hi it's Talisker' they could have disconnected immediately. It doesn't matter to me who engineered it or how. They made the choice to go in when they could have said, no thanks. Roger was asked to go into a private chat and he very wisely said no. |
Lafatme | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 01:50 am  yes az, it doesn't matter to me whi initiated it either. i talking technically how do you go into a chat with someone whose name you don't recognize? and how do you invite someone whose name you don/t know? the only answer is that they knew each other's aol names. i can understand gail and kearie having this info since they emailed one another prior to the game. vyk says he knew no one so how did he know it was gail inviting him and how did he know how to contact kearie? the above scenario is how vyk explained it in one of his posts. gail invited him, he asked if kearie could join them, gail said yes. seems there must have been some type of communication regarding screenames somewhere. i, for one, would like to know when and where and how they contacted each other. oh well, it's probably one of those never to be solved mysteries. |
Something | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:21 am  The first time yes, toss the whiney wacko wench. The second time I had to go for a moderator or I would have voted the same way for the same reason. |
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