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Adven39 | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 03:51 pm  I'm not sure when it happened, but this game has detoured into the twilight zone. Xenia, who was the friend of a number of people on this board, has turned into a gargoyle released from the bowels of Hell. Mantastic, a man who has always been respected, has just said things that he intended to be as cutting and cruel as he could make them. Vykin is in overdrive trying to entertain us with his glibness. HiMay, because she is required to, throws out an opinion and then, wisely, ducks and runs for cover. Roger and Moondance are like two people at a dinner party who are desperately trying to ignore the fact that all the other guests are farting. And we're out here behaving like a WWF audience. It reminds me of one of those surreal dreams you have that makes little sense, but leaves you feeling vaguely disturbed when you wake up. |
Jana | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 04:45 pm  i agree with this post. |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:37 am  I wish they would make us laugh more. Where is the fun? They are so serious most of the time with the deep discussions. It is losing it's game aspect and becoming more of an encounter group. |
Wcv63 | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 09:45 am  I agree that what we are beginning to see is conflict as sport. I've noticed that both inside and outside The Game it is becoming commonplace to argue a point by beginning with the inference that the statement being argued is the only right opinion. Then insults get hurled at anyone who dares to disagree. |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 09:52 am  It is mostly an outcome of the people who were chosen for the game. They weren't much "fun" in the traditional sense when they were "live" on our board, and now they are simply being themselves. You get what you pay for. |
Wcv63 | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:00 am  After getting caught up on all the events I'd like to share a few observations. Xenia "confessed" that she came into the game with the uncomfortable feeling because she had divulged much of her personal information to Moon some weeks back so that Moon could do her chart. That has colored her attitude in the game and there were some trust issues. She also said it has stopped being fun. Mantastic lashes out and then abruptly quits stating that he had stopped being fun and he hated to be intentionally cruel. Luke made a plea to the internet game about all the bickering and seemed very uncomfortable being in the middle of a war zone. Vykin and Xenia constantly sniping at each other has overtaken their ability to have any other conversation with each other. Arreal seems pensive about some of the comments made and seems to be sifting them over and over in her mind, hours after the incident has ended. Tali and Himay haven't been around as much, probably trying to avoid the tension. (Perhaps real life has reared its ugly head) And Roger and Moon try to pacify and soothe and generally be a shoulder to any who need it. Perhaps with Man quitting and Xenia confessing things will even out and cool down. One can only hope. |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:12 am  It'll be new again when the banishees leave, just like it was in BB. |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 12:41 pm  Wcv63 you said, "Tali and Himay haven't been around as much, probably trying to avoid the tension. (Perhaps real life has reared its ugly head)" Just to clarify, both Talisker and HiMay have said in Discussions that they don't access The Game from work which may explain why "real life" prevents them from participating as much. Ocean, I thought Dilligaf/HiMay10Ns was "fun" when she was "live" on our board, especially in the Club Chat. Snave/Mantastic and Optic/Vykin are also funny. Maybe some people have lost their sense of humour. |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:09 pm  Snave and Optic posted very little, it seems to me, before they joined the game; yes, they were funny. I think HiMay is more of a fun poster but also got into the heavy stuff a lot too. Do you mean some of the game players have lost their humor or me? |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:46 pm  Ocean I did not mean you in particular. I just meant The Game in general. Attempts at humour/wit seem to be attacked by some viewers and some game players. |
Azriel1104 | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:58 pm  I think you all worry too much. Everyone is worrying to death about Arreal's fragility and now you think Xenia has 'changed' Calm down and take some deep breaths. It's all going to be okay. Watching people interact and making judgements on their behavior is what we did the whole time we were watching BB. We didn't just do that with the HGs, we did that with the people that we interacted with here on the board. We all survived that, didn't we? All this becomes personal only if you make it personal. I know each of you can name people that posted on the board that you passionately disagreed with all through BB, some of them might be in the house now. The people in the Game are being scrutinized closer than they were when they were just posting on the BB board, but still all it boils down to is one person's opinion against another's. If they could survive negative replies to their posts outside the Game, they will be able to handle it in the Game. Everytime we make a post someone on the board is looking at it and thinking negative thoughts. Someone right now is saying Az is an idiot and they will probably be posting it right under this very soon. I'll survive and so will the Game players. |
Katie | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 04:20 pm  AZ is an idiot!! lol j/k Actually what you posted makes a lot of sense. I find nothing wrong with peope disagreeing with me. I actually think I learn a lot from people doing that. I just don't think they need to call me names to get their point across. I will respect them and listen to their point of view a lot easier if they just tell me what they are thinkng on the issue and why. When someone starts attacking me it makes it hard to read past the attack and try to understand what they are trying to say. Sometimes all there is, is an attack and to me that is a waste of time. |
Lafatme | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 04:22 pm  az is an idiot! just kidding az, you have to admit you invited it. they do need to laugh more though. |
Wcv63 | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 04:41 pm  Maybe the next discussion topic can be something to lighten the mood and interject a little levity into The Game. |
Norequerdo | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 06:29 pm  Hell, If I worried about people attacking me I would have bailed out on my second day with this. The key to it all is entertainment. As a newcomer what intrigues me most is a common thread I have seen throughout the various posts and that is how many of the players are totally different than when they were mere observers and posters. I would be curious if anyone had an opinion as to what makes people apparently change like that. It certainly isn't for a great reward. Also, since they all knew each other outside the game what has prompted the apparently new conflicts. My thought is that since it isnt a chat room environment and there really isn't any direct interaction except through posts, the players feel perhaps more powerful. There isn't a possibility of immediate criticism from five members at once. They make their post in a somewhat isolated state. I could be reading it all wrong. As I said, I am new so I don't know what it was like before the game and I don't know what any of the player's were like before. The next big question will be how will these players interract after the game is over. Will it be one group again or will the experience end it for the players. Sorry if long winded but would love to hear peoples thoughts on this. |
Misslibra | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 06:39 pm  Az, you have made some good points. And I agree with all of them. Well said my friend ... well said ! See not all of us think negative thoughts. It all depends on what you come to this board for to have fun, or to be a party pooper ... and boy have I seen a lot of poopers. |
Adven39 | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 09:25 pm  Norequerdo, I think there are a few reasons that these people seem to change their personality now that they are BG's and not just regular posters. One is that they are forced by the nature of the game to post more frequently and on topics they would likely ignore if they appeared on the regular message board. This change in the quantity and variety of their posts, and the added attention we pay to them, fleshes them out a bit more and exposes strengths and weaknesses we previously hadn't seen or noticed. More importantly, though, they can't help but be aware they are being judged and evaluated by us and each other. This changes everything about them. It's like having to debate or argue or converse with someone on the street with a crowd there watching. The crowd intimidates - conversation becomes superficial, debate becomes personal and argument turns into the need to save face. All of them, even Xenia, are trying to present a picture of themselves that they want the crowd to see. Some become overly aggressive, defensive and confrontational because they feel this picture is being threatened by another BG. Others seem to offer little but small talk and "safe" opinions, not because they lack substance, but because they don't want to draw too much attention to themselves and, again, have the picture questioned. Still others perform for us with jokes or stories - again, in order to help maintain the picture and to keep it from being questioned. The bottom line is that if you put people in an unnatural situation, they will behave unnaturally. |
Guruchaz | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 09:35 pm  I eventually think they will get bored and the communication will drop. I hope it doesn't but I see it waiting to happen. They need more activities or induced disruption from the outside. |
Wcv63 | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 09:58 pm  Adven I agree with you completely! Well said! |
Katie | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:33 pm  Want to check out the hot tub thread no? Seems that something is up there. What kind of secret does Tali have that she isn't telling. What does her make up hide?? |
Wcv63 | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:46 pm  LOL...looks like they are playing a tell a story game where each player picks up and continues from where the last player left off. |
Lafatme | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:52 pm  nor, just one question. if you weren't here before the game, how could you know they are acting different? just curious. katie, i'm also curious as to tali's secret. hope we find out. |
Azriel1104 | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:56 pm  Adven, you are right on the mark. These people were with us through BB and they heard the remarks people made on the board about what they wanted out of BB. One of the phrases I heard most often was 'we voted out the people that caused conflict and were interesting' I think it's very amusing that Xenia is giving the BBFC public what they complained that they wanted the most and in appreciation of her efforts they are going to banish her ass!  |
Katie | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:59 pm  I think it must be something pretty important. Any idea? |
Wcv63 | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 11:01 pm  Maybe Tali is really Admin in disguise!! |
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