Azriel1104 | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:32 pm  How many people are registered here? Does anyone know? I know that alot of people saved their votes to the end. |
Jana | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:35 pm  There was never this much voting before...also, there are people on here that have said they don't like Moondance and have also mentioned that they know how to cheat....i think this is so bogus.....way to screw up a game guys, thanks! |
Whit4you | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:36 pm  Jana, well there isn't much that can be done about it at this point is there. Those who think cheating is perfectly fine will have no problem cheating to make that clear via a vote. It's a live and learn process here. My suggestion that people register to vote a week prior each weeks vote went undiscussed here. |
Jana | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:46 pm  and then when i call that "cheater" on it....all of a sudden the votes start evening out...what a scam |
Whit4you | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:46 pm  Just for kicks and giggles it'd be really fun if the admin had the time to give the stats on say all the "regular" voters... nothing wrong with new lurkers and such but it'd just be fun to see for example # of votes for each of them from anyone who's logged onto this board more then say 3 times LOL I'd have to guess the totals would be quite a bit different |
Nant | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:47 pm  Obviously cheating is going on in the voting here. Maybe this vote should be ignored and all five should stay. Then we vote between all five for the one winner? |
Jana | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:53 pm  something should be done....this is such crap....all of a sudden moondance will have five more votes, but NOBODY else will have any more votes....now how could that happen? someone has it in for moondance and she still is running close with all of them.... |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:53 pm  Must be Roger pumping up the votes!!!! Hasnt anyone told him he is fine |
Jana | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:55 pm  i don't think it is any of the players that are cheating..it is people on the outside...or more likely, ONE person......i think i have a good idea WHO! |
Vasix | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 02:56 pm  Whit: there was a technical discussion on one of these boards about the limited security features of the Free Polling mechanism currently in place. Preregistration would have been a nightmare EVERY week for the poor Host/Admin. So mulitvoting problem was discussed, but since there wasn't a DARN thing we can do about it (from a software fix) they let it tacitly drop. Yes the votes seem to be running wild and everyone but BlessedBoringBeing Roger is AMAZINGLY neck and neck. When the unfixable mulitvoting issue became clear several diffent posters said: vote once and play on. I think people hoped that everyone would play on and vote once and we'd muddle through. Apparently, with 400 votes and counting, we were very wrong about that. Now all we have to do is find someway to blame one or more of the players and we'll be right back where we were. A bummer way to end a Beta test but hey,sometimes the test rockets fail. We'll fix it in the next game. |
Whit4you | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:02 pm  Ok well now that you see 230+ voters voting - you might understand why I went through all the trouble I did (and pissed a few people off) by my "Polling the jury" - it was to help curtail what's happened this time. Seeing the current vote results I'm pleased at how successful I was then. Well I imagine because of all this Neil will not want a game II. But then I personally don't think those involved in potentially rigging this vote would care. Would they. I would really like to convince them however - (not to change the outcome, we'll have to accept the vote as it stands) but I'd really love to see the stats on only those voters who've logged onto this board say...3 times... I'd place bets on the % each player recieved in those stats. LOL |
Jana | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:06 pm  I think he should have some kind of re-vote where we have to email in our votes...i know some people were saving votes, but there have been over 75 votes in the last 45 minutes...also, like i said, Moondance will get five extra votes while nobody else is voted for....what is the point of having the contest if you are going to let the vote stand and allow cheating? this really pisses me off |
Vasix | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:09 pm  Jana. Don't get mad. We will fix it in the next game. I've been doing poll tracking. How's this for odd: in the last 90 minutes: 131 votes have been cast. ONE was for Roger!!! Hmmmm.... |
Affinity | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:11 pm  Somebody definitely stuffed the ballot I know because its not possible I myself avoided doing it |
Whit4you | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:13 pm  Well I suppose if Neil believes that cheating was going on... and wants to do something about people cheating in the game he created there are ways to resolve it. Does he have a record of who voted in the last vote? Couldn't we limit the voters in this vote to those who voted in the last vote? Or is there a way to tell how many times people have logged on and only allow people who've BEEN to this message board say 5 or more times to vote in a revote? Or perhaps we could form a "jury" of only those people who've participated in this game ie posted to one of these message boards. (That seems a little harsh to some lurkers I suppose but it's better then allowing cheating to win I think....morally and ethically I think it's better to hurt a few lurkers feelings then to allow a win based on cheating) I am sure there are other options I am just thinking of a few.... (I hope a few of you can now SEE why I went on endlessly to "poll the jury" it was for this exact reason...to avoid THIS obvious problem - and while it may have irritated some of you it DID work...) |
Affinity | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:15 pm  You know what. I think a better way to count the votes (well it may be a little tougher for Host) is to start a thread. Everyone that is a registered member will then enter two names as a post. Host will go through and manually count, or write a Perl script to do it. I can help if possible. I'm decent in Perl |
Norwican | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:15 pm  Where did the poll go for Banishment III go? I can't find it. |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:15 pm  whit as long as you dont vote me off because you didnt like any of my posts. |
Affinity | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:16 pm  dont worry Nor, we wont vote you off
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Vasix | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:19 pm  Look. We just got to tighten up some voting security and get the rules straight and this is a great thing. Of course, Neil is laughing his butt off right now because we the PARANOIDS are INSTANTLY assuming its vote fraud because of the increase in votes. What we don't know is how many people told their friends: "hey there's this really wacky game going on and all you do is register and the you can watch and vote." Before we are certain of vote fraud Host/Admin can tell us how many folks are registered. My bet: in the last three weeks our happy little site has grown. |
Affinity | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:21 pm  Vasix, what do you think about my idea posted above? |
Kearie | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:23 pm  Host already puts tons of time and effort into this game. It is a shame that the obvious cheating occured. I certainly don't expect HOST to put more time into counting the polls by hand. I'll be glad when this whole fiasco is over. It's certainly a shame that something as well intended and fun like this was ruined by cheating voters. I'm stunned, but I WILL NOT blame Lisa and Neil. They did awesome. |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:27 pm  but who benefitted from the cheating, it sure likes it was pretty close overall to me Everyone except roger got over 100 votes. |
Affinity | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:27 pm  Heck I'll count the damn votes
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Kearie | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 03:29 pm  Email Lisa and Neil....see if you can.... |