Wcv63 | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 10:55 am  Nor: "you people got outcheated that is all." Nor, going around haphazardly accusing people of cheating will do nothing except start the entire debate again. Someone cheated. True. No one really knows who, do they? The statement "you people" is pretty inflammatory based on the fact that I take it to mean "you people" is anybody that doesn't agree with you. The point is moot. The vote is being done by email and the results will not be tainted by "cheaters". |
Bearcatuc | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 10:55 am  Spam, if Moon didn't read the email, then how did Jana know Moon was "crying her eyes out"? |
Vasix | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 10:56 am  Spam: NYT article to Vykin is bad? Heck what Vykin needed was Lafatme to give him updates like he did for Arreal. Shoot, everyone on the US side of the border knows: The NYTIMES: The Paper That Can't Refuse Ink is a fishwrapper! <----Vasix The Washington Post reader (and gosh its sooooo biased but that's a thread for another time) PS I'm just having fun here Spam and even tho you can't bring yourself to adore Vykin I still want to tell you thanks for all the techno help you have been. I appreciate all your time answering all of our bits and bytes questions and I'm glad no one with a cool head would ever think you would cheat. Heck, I suspect if you wanted to you could have seized control of our happy site (oh yeah I can't say "our" cause I like Vyk) long ago! It could be called SpamLand.com Viva SpamNation! |
Spamgirl | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 10:57 am  Whit: exactly... but i don't think it will happen Just like to say again - YAY HOST!
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Spamgirl | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:01 am  Bear: Yeah, i'm asking the same question to myself either jana was exaggerating in her rage... or moon did read it... either way... it wasn't a smart thing to do and I think, somehow jana should get some sort of "punishment" for it... for giving the password, at least... rage or no rage, we need to control ourselves That being said, what the host does is what the host does... the game is almost over, and i'm sure they just want to be done with it Jana appologized, so I'm just done with the whole situation from now on... blah! Vas: You're telling me that you think the only ARREAL was getting updates? Please... i'm sure at least 3 of them were... You're welcome rofl... spamland.com... hmm, you got me thinking now ;) (and yes, i could do that... but i wouldn't... 'cuz I like neil )
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Jasper | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:04 am  Spamgirl et al... Ok I consider myself a neutral observer. I did not even send an email because I really don't want anyone out. So let me see if I got this straight OK? 1)"Jana didn't really cheat she just sort of... bent the rules for a second." 2)Moon didn't cheat because, after all, she says she "didn't read it anyways..." 3) Arreal admitted to getting outside mail and ICQing other BG's but she didn't really cheat because she felt bad about it and finally admitted it. 4) but Vykin is a liar and a cheat because he got an email re the New York story and told the people in the game it was a hoax?? then refused further ICQing and emails when told it was outside the rules..then tried to defend himself Have I got the story straight yet? I seem to be missing some logic here somewhere? |
Vasix | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:07 am  Spam: You Mole-Detector you! I'd love to know which three and what led you to that conclusion? But that would get the thread all gnarly with stuff, but wow, three of them? I only have proof of one. The other mystery is what happened to Mantastic? But again, all fodder for another folder. I've had a ball. And could you clear up something. Everyone keeps saying this is a 'free site'. That means of course we aren't charged but I see it has advertising so it isn't an all volunteer site. Are Host and Admin EMPLOYEES of the site or are they volunteers to the company that runs the site. Do Host and Admin get paid by the site? I'm new here so I'm so unclear on all of this. |
Whit4you | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:08 am  Jasper your missing a whole LOT of the story darlin But I realllllllllllllllllly don't care anymore spin it anyway you wanna hun |
Norequerdo | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:11 am  Listen if we didnt have this stuff to talk about it would be just as boring inside the house. You all know I love to stir things up. |
Jasper | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:15 am  Whit I'm not trying to spin anything. I'm trying to get a feel for what is happening. Everyone seems to hint at things but I can't find any facts and I hate to vote someone out without facts, that's all. So what are the facts, if I am missing something??? |
Vasix | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:15 am  Jasper you are missing the key rules of the TVCLUB that only some folks got: Rule 6.V.1 Vykin is a stranger to site. Everything about him is suspect. He may even be TWO people. If he says a statement it is wrong until proven right. If he gets crossways with someone, he is wrong and the other person is a victim of his lying. If he is honorable about something he is lying to cover up the fact that he is an outsider. Its really a simple rule and if everyone had it read to them at the beginning this would be much more fun. |
Spamgirl | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:20 am  1. cheating is only cheating if there was an intent to cheat... she thought moon was out anyways 2. moon didn't cheat because she didn't do anything actively... recieveing an email isn't cheating 3. arreal cheated, but i've forgiven her... doesn't mean it wasn't wrong... just that i've forgiven her 4. vykin is a whiney little turd... not just a cheat... i dislike him for many reasons vas: yeah, i won't say which three 'cuz i don't want to go through THAT again.. and mantastic is a whole other ballgame I think host and admin get advertising revenue, but it's mostly put back into the site... i could be wrong
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Spamgirl | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:21 am  Hey, i was a stranger to the site pre-game... does that mean i'm suspect too? (ducking and running away )
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Norwican | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:21 am  Jasper, in my opinion you are correct in your synopsis of what has transpired thus far... and I think Vasix "hit the nail on the head". That's the only reason I could think of also for all of the Vykin bashing. |
Gail | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:22 am  nobody gets money here vasix - everyone who works here is a volunteer . . . believe it or not, we do it for fun (haha) |
Whit4you | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:22 am  Vasix - that's your story and your sticking to it eh? I guess Gail was an outsider too? After all a large % of the folks here were "out to get her" must be because she's an outsider. And all those who were out to get ArReal - she must be an outsider too eh? But then Moon got 122 votes (with only 225 people signing onto this site in the last 3 days..) So I have to assume it's because she's an outsider as well. Roger must be the only one who's not an outsider - since he doesn't seem to be getting targeted. That's my Roger! |
Norequerdo | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:23 am  tell ;you what Jasper, give me your login and I will vote for you. ONLY KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Vasix | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:26 am  Jasper When she calls you darlin, she has run out of thoughts ( word of warning: she never runs out of words) And she picked up a new word "spin". Spin is her way of saying "your opinion doesn't count". Get used to it. |
Jasper | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:32 am  Thanks for the warning Vasix. I guess I got my answer from Spam's last post...the facts I asked for seem to be that: "the vykin is a whiney little turd... not just a cheat... i dislike him for many reasons " so because Spam & Arreal/Kearie/Katie et al dislike him...that's why we should all feel he is a liar and a cheat. That seems to be what I am getting so far. Again, have I missed something? |
Norequerdo | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:36 am  If anyone is interested I was tracking the votes from wednesday thursday friday. I can post what they were at midpoints in the days. 11:50 am Roger - 8 Moon - 11 Luke - 14 Vykin - 9 Him - 22 1:15 Roger - 8 moon - 12 Luke - 15 Vyk - 10 Him - 23 3:00 Roger - 10 Moon 17 Luke 19 Vyk 14 Him 30 11:00 am Roger 11 moon 17 luke 19 Vyk 14 him 30 4:00 roger 13 moon 20 luke 20 vyk 16 him 34 last count I did was on friday at 11 Roger 23 moon 57 luke 63 vyk 51 him 65 Now the way I see it, votes stayed close. Moon at no time had less votes than Vyk so when exactly did the cheating occur. Did the cheating start when the first vote was posted because Moon was ahead??? |
Whit4you | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:43 am  "Jasper Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:15 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whit I'm not trying to spin anything. I'm trying to get a feel for what is happening. Everyone seems to hint at things but I can't find any facts and I hate to vote someone out without facts, that's all. So what are the facts, if I am missing s something??? " Ok Jasper, my apologies. I figured you might have been around enough to know more of the Vykin story then just what he did prior to the "no contact" order. Things like, posting outside info into The Game, chatting with folks on the outside about the goings on out here, posting private emails, lying about outside contact and so on and so forth. It's all been said endlessly I don't see a point in rehashing it. I just thought you were trying to put on a spin - didn't realize you just were not aware of all the other stuff. Take care Whit |
Vasix | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:45 am  Gail: send me the sites postal address and I'll send you guys a box of homemade choclate chip cookies. You can't continue to work under such inhumane conditions... |
Norequerdo | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:46 am  Now whit dont forget to add the other stuff like Arreal receiving email updates from the outside, Moondance receiving email from the outside, who in the boardsw are arreal supporters and would do anything to get Vykin out, posters who previously admitted to voting more than once and I wont say whose supporters they were but they werent Vykins. lets be fair here. Jasper my advice is to just vote as best you can. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:49 am  Jasper, my advice to you is to run (don't walk) from this thread as fast as you can and make your decisions as you see fit. That's what I'm gonna do..... |
Whit4you | Saturday, October 28, 2000 - 11:51 am  Nor who knows when the cheating started? The host said there were only 225 folks who've logged onto this system in the last 3 days, over 160 votes in the last hour shows clearly that SOMEONE was cheating. The revote is done by email, nobody knows who's pulling into the lead. Seems to me there are only a couple of people here who don't think the vote was bogus... seems to be the same people who don't think Vykin has cheated. Coincidence I suppose. Chalk it up to Syncronicity eh? The funniest thing of all those couple people are the ones who were crying the loudest "It's just a game" yet now they are going on endlessly about this. LOL I'm telling you now regardless of the outcome I will be fine with it - if Roger gets 90% of the votes, or Moon or whoever... at least I know it wasn't cause someone was "watching" the vote and manipulating it accordingly. It's a shot in the dark now. Whit |