Archive through October 10, 2000

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Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:08 am Click here to edit this post
Are you saying that Moon and I both have passion, mine is in relationships and hers is in....I'm really confused what you are saying/asking?

go ahead Xenia

Xenia

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:09 am Click here to edit this post
I just came from the Internet Cam area and read Moondance's post. When she referred to me, she mentioned something that I have spoken about in my RR visits but never really expressed openly here.

Do you think it's possible someone from the outside is contacting her and letting her know things?

And if she is getting tidbits of info, are you guys cool with that?

I could just be being paranoid. I just find it to be a huge coincidence. I also know she has many friends (and obvious admirers) on this Web site, so it could be possible.

Thoughts?

Xenia

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:10 am Click here to edit this post
Just to add to your convo: What I interpret from Roger's words is that he sees your passion as manifesting itself internally and Moon's comes out externally.

Moondance

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:12 am Click here to edit this post
Xenia... I left you a message at the Internet camera ...

your posts here have been obvious to me (looking at your wrist) asking for razorblades ... sarcastic about hugs ... doesn't take sherlock! :)

Xenia

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:15 am Click here to edit this post
Ah! So it was my imagination!

Well, I'll just have to be more cryptic from now on...

Sorry for interrupting guys...

Moondance

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:15 am Click here to edit this post
I really do not want to get into it but someone who has contemplated suicide ... (in the past) things like that sticks out like a sore thumb!

Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:17 am Click here to edit this post
Xenia--thanks...I bet your understanding of iit was better than mine.

Outside information--I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it was happening in here, not saying Moon specifically, just anyone. I'm not going to worry about it though.

Xenia--stop with the wrist slashing or I'll have to take you to my shrink.

Moondance

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:19 am Click here to edit this post
Sorry guys ... I swear I am going to bed now!

Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:20 am Click here to edit this post
I think I'm missing an inside joke of some sort

Roger_Ramjet

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:20 am Click here to edit this post
Xenia, I think anything is possible in terms of data trnsfer. Kind of an honor system here with everyone being able to email each other if they want to. I read her response to what you said. I don't know exactly what RR information you are alluding to. She commented on you posting about looking down at your wrists (I remember that post), and your comments about razor blades I remember that comment you made about them, yet not razors to, I think Vykin or Zeb??

I could draw a connection there at laest interms of meaning (not having to be action). Since I was no where near the bathroom when you said it, I leave it (and posts of others just like that) out of the game.

I believe the spirit of the game is not to have outside contact. That is how I hope everyone plays. Yes, I know I'm anal about the rules. (that would maen I would not like that if that were going on with anyone)

Not knowing all the information, I don't know that this has even been of use??

Moondance

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:28 am Click here to edit this post
I am not getting any outside info ... it won't be any fun then
it was so obvious to me what she was alluding to so I made a comment to the Internet camera to send over some presents for the BGs ... I was trying to be funny and nice too. I said to send a letter from your daughter(arreal) and prime rib for you Roger but you can go read it anyway I said to send over a hug for Xenia ... she has been pretty apparent to me that she doesn't like them ... she was kind of sarcastic about it a couple of times ... even said she was looking at her wrists during a hug feast ... just my observations … I was just kidding with her ... oh well sometimes my humor???

Roger_Ramjet

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:29 am Click here to edit this post
Arreal/Xenia(if you are still there---

I apologize for bad communication. You both got the same message from what I said, and it wasn't waht I was saying. I'll accept that one, as you guys got the same thing.

I wsn't trying to compare Moon's (or anyone elses)to yours. I was strictly addressing the type of passion that is specific to close human relationships. Passion for things like jobs, or a sport, are different in nature than the passion involved in taking those huge risks involved in that total sharing/trusting/supporting relationships that are so rare. It takes first a passion for yourself. many people have passions for, well, most anything. How long has it been since you've heard someone say the have intense passion for themselves?? I'm not doing a good job here at all, am I??

Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:31 am Click here to edit this post
There it is!!!! I figured out why I like you.
It's that anal thing, reminds me of my hubby.


My elbow is getting sore from being on the puter so long today...it's actually bright red/pink.

Roger_Ramjet

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:35 am Click here to edit this post
You just like Roger. LOL!

Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:46 am Click here to edit this post
Okay, I think I got you. Never thought that I might be passionate about myself, but since you brought it up, or saw it...I am passionate about understanding myself as much as possible so I can heal. I have often wondered if people speculated about themselves as much as I do. I try to figure out and analyze pretty much all my behaviors. I want to know not only what I think, but why I think it. Is this truly different? Is this really a passion for me?

I assumed I grew up normal, had a normal family...I learned I was wrong. I thought it was normal because it was my reality.

Now as an adult I get frustrated when I ask what he's thinking and he says...oh nothing. It drives me nuts, I can't believe people can actually sit there and think nothing...not even rambling, senseless crap. Which is normal?

Are you saying a passion for self awareness is out of the ordinary. I know people have many valuable and personal passions...Dance, music, football, sports...heck, Karen was almost passionate in her concern for her kids.

Could we interchange the word passion with ambition or drive, and still have the same meaning?

Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 02:49 am Click here to edit this post
Yea, you're probably right. I liked the Roger out there on the real virtual reality boards.

Roger_Ramjet

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:06 am Click here to edit this post
Ah, definitions!! Important--very important. They are what we use to relate to and have that undertanding in communication you mentioned awhile back.

I believe I know at least one person who 'speculates" about themselves at least as much as you do. Something I've been woring on since I was 13. I figured out few things at that early age, and took off from there.

Somethng on passion at the end...until then, let's wait to answer your question. Something else to consider. looking at yourself...trying for that acceptance...many who try it do what your words say...figure out and anlayze. That is a function of thought. I offer that doing such things takes a bit of thought and the rest is feeling...you have to feel what is there.

"says nothing" LOL! The reason I LOL is beacuse he's a guy, and I'm a guy---I know what he is saying!!!! it's different than what you are thinking (at least I believe it enough I'd bet a beer!). I used to do this to the ex. I'd cme home, and she asked what happened during the day...I'd answer "nothing". man, that would send her after a while. Turns out what I meant by nothing was what she wanted to hear--only in diffeent words!!

To me, nothng meant nothing different than a typical day. Nothing especialy good or bad, nothing super busy or dead. No big stressful interactions with anyone...nothing out of the ordinary. Found out if I said the words above I used to say what nothing meant to me, she was very happy!!!!!! woohoo So, I thought ok, I don't undertsand what the big deal is, however if it helped that much, I'd say the extra words.

From my experience, I feel that passion for self acceptance is very rare. It takes a lot of work, and it puts you through things most people don't ant to try facing---everything about themselves, and everything about themselves ending up being ok. Well, that is puting too simple--I think I may have screwed that up by not giving more.

Passion--let me provide you something and you can tell ne who you FEEL about it.

"Passion is powerful...nothing was ever achieved without it, and nothing can take its place. No matter what you face in life, if your passion is great enough, you will find the strength to succeed. Without passion life has no meaning. So put your heart, mind and soul into even the smallest acts...this is the essence of passion. This is the secret to life."

Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:07 am Click here to edit this post
Roger, I do believe after about 5 1/2 hours of conversation, my fingers are tired...my elbow is rebelling, my eyes are dry and fuzzy...and this darn headache. I think my body is hollering at me and telling me to get my arse in bed.

I must conceed.

I had a wonderful time chatting with you. I feel like I almost monopolized the conversation, so next time it's your turn to ramble and babble, k?

Roger_Ramjet

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:08 am Click here to edit this post
Roger wasn't out there--or if he was by name, that wasn't me. Out there my name was much different.

Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:13 am Click here to edit this post
Okay, so by that definition of passion I have spent many years passionately trying to understand ME...like in the movie...The Never Ending Story...The third challenge Atr*** had to succeed in was to face who he REALLY was to pass and succeed on his mission.

Do I got it? :)....maybe...give me something so I can go to bed...lol

Roger_Ramjet

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:16 am Click here to edit this post
Yes, it would seem that you have indeed!!

How are you doing on that total acceptance thing??

Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:16 am Click here to edit this post
smart ass! :)

gonna wave nigh-night now or I'll never get any sleep....


Nigh-night

sweet dreams, good day at work tomorrow...be happy and thanks again. I'm going now. I really am....bye bye Roger or whoever you are.

Roger_Ramjet

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:18 am Click here to edit this post
In here I'm Roger. Out there I figure you know my name??

have a great night!!!!!!

Arreal

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:19 am Click here to edit this post
Can we pick this up later then? I'm on my way to that total acceptance thing.

Really I'm gone.

Roger_Ramjet

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:21 am Click here to edit this post
We can pick it up any time you want. On your way is better than most. The biggest risk, the biggest reward.........