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Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 09:47 pm  Roger, that question was for you. |
Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 09:48 pm  Zeb: I am now going to ignore you. Go away. |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 09:50 pm  Not always. There are a few things that get me going--instantly. The most frequent one that happens is me making a mistake. I hate doing that..especially one well within my abilities. I usualy call myself a couple of names, get pissed at myself for a bit, then try and learn from it..then move on. Next is when someone honestly attacks my honesty or trustwoorthyness without just cause. I take offense and am hurt, although don't lash out. I let my passion and intensity show through while calling the person on issues only..no names, no attacks..juts issues. For emergencies--fires, heated battles between people, people bleeding to death, when I had to chose my son's death or life (vegetable most likely), when I got myself and another person out of a death situation last year....all of those things..total calm, and get to business..with intesnity. Why???... |
Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 09:55 pm  I just wondered if you were exhibiting your true temprament or if this was the way you consciously chose to play game. I have another quesiton for you. You know when I mentioned the thing about people around here not having any problems wiht someone insulting the way one looks? And you said you had never done it, and I said that you had never done it, but that you also don't condone it. I have to wonder, when you are watching a heated argument and you see something that isn't right, why do you choose to stay out of it rather than get involved? Is that something you'd do in normal life as well? I have to ask because I am the exact opposite. If I see an injustice, I jumpr all over the person who is being unfair. I can't imagine ever being passive. I just wonder if you can explain to me what that is like. (I'm not going to proofread these posts...I'll just post them...) |
Vykin | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:10 pm  Xenia, on the looks thing, I wanted to explain to you at the time but was scared of you to be honest. I meant that as a joke. YOur picture really is attractive. I'm sorry if i really offended you. Sometimes we type something in here thinking its a joke, but in type it looks different. Apologies on that. Arreal are you saying wednesday will be Custards Last Stand for your computer? Finally, sorry about being away past hour, unfortunately one of my real life business associates got my online nonbusiness screenname and wanted to discuss a presentation I'm doing later this week. Distracted me and I have now ensured that individual is blocked. Can't stand when my real life interfers with my virtual life at the same time. |
Vykin | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:12 pm  Look out zeb, it looks like its your week to get beaten up by Xenia, don't worry you'll survive it. |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:13 pm  No problem with the proof reading..I make some many mistakes I don't catch I could never jump someone for it! First, the person you see here is the person I am. I thing I have about myself. I'm me, and I wish to be liked or dislike for that. I can repect either one...and feel that if I am not honest with evreyone, I'm not honest with myself. Next, my level of involvement is decided by what I experience seeing. I will step in immediately for physical attacks. I will step in where situtaions involve unfair advantage 5 on 1. In here, I let people fight their own battle pretty much. People need to do that. They need to succeed on their own fail on their own, make up with each other on their own if possible. This group of people, IMHO, is a sharp group. All pretty stong, all with their own opinions. If they want help, I figure they can ask. I don't do well with attacks behind the back. I respect a fair face to face battle. Besides, there may well be things I don't know about between the two people. If I jump into something like an arguement, I may make things worse. Also, by jumping in, sometimes people will take offense if they feel they are looked at as being weak. Not many of us need protectors---and if they do, it is their responsibility to make it known---not mt to guess or decide for them. Would I prefer an issue oriented discussion??? You bet!! From my perspective, the more a perosn strays from the issues and makes it personal, the less interested they are in solving the issues. A great approach for me, although in cases where people aren't getting hurt, is it any better that I'm forcing that view on them?? I might make a request...in some cases, I might point out what I think is hapening, and ask them to juts come out and admit it (I've done that once here already). Tonight I called you on going after family that wasn't here....inmy opinion, I saw a great likelihood you were going after the person and not the issue---even if you weren't, it was still over the line because the family person was not here to address what you said. If we had a child in here, and I saw a verbal attack like I've seen from some, I'd be all over that. Here though, we are all pretty capable of holding our own. I really like Arreal. I also think she is very strong, and 1-on-1 can hold her own with any of us....and I want to give her the chance to do so. Now if she gets "knocked down" and someone "kicks" then..or that situation with anyone..again, I'm all over that. Did that help explain things at all??? I have no problem with you having a different view and saying so, btw. I'm happy to discuss such things. Right or wrong.....an interesting issue. When you and Zeb argue, who's right?? Sometimes it seems obvious to me, someimes it doesn't. |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:15 pm  Vyk--hi there--I was a bit past 9:00 getting back. Sometimes helping out takes a bit longer than planned. Where is everyone--I was hoping to get to say hi and discuss the reward. I have something I want to say about priorities and see waht others say... |
Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:18 pm  What has been your favorite part of all of this so far, Roger? Do you enjoy the discussion or the conversations? Do you think you have a strong feeling for who everyone really is? I can see your perpsective about getting involved vs. not getting involved. The sifference between you and I is that I react from emotion. You react from logic. That's cool. |
Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:21 pm  Thank you Giblets. I am very grateful for your apology. I was hurt because sharing photos and details about myself was a big risk for me. I've given you tons od stuff criticize within my behavior. But your post did read as an insult not a joke. It's Ok though. And I aplogize for the dildo comment. I went too far with that one. But it was very dramatic, wasn't it?? Giblets... I'll only do this... ONCE... (((ICE CREAM CAKE))) |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:27 pm  Xenia--bothe emotion and logic are good..,idealy they rae blended at just the right amounts for any given case. I have emotions..just sometimes they do more harm than good. IMHO, wisdom is in partm knowing what that right blend is!! lol Heck, I know I get it wrong plenty!! My favorite? Getting to interact in any form. Litening is something I work really hard at doing when people want to talk. Sure, I enjoy giving my opinions--although in hopes of getting the other person's back in return. What's been your favorite part of being a BG?? btw, you seem pretty bright, high energy, driven for success.....why is it that in bringing up excellent points, you let the personal side of thing distract from what good points you have??? is it just your emotions taking over?? Oh, I figured out who everyone was after a cople of posts from each---except Moon--her picture is the same as one of the angel pictures...didn't need any posts. Part of that is from peole doing so well in beinging 1)themselves to match up to waht they said, or 2) the same way they were on the outside. |
Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:32 pm  But you don't seem to judge people. How do you not do that? My favorite part? When I write these posts I'm very conscious of the way I write and form sentences. Sometimes I get sloppy, but for the most part it's been a good writing excercise. That's been my favorite part. You have said so many flattering things to me. And as always I thank you for them. I think I'm just an all-around complicated person. |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:47 pm  Not judging people is easy...I just think of every time it's been done to me and how I felt about it. That is a feeling I would not want to be responsible for imparting to anyone!! That is great about your point of a great writing exercise!! I write the way I think (I was telling Luke that after I'd really made things sound weird..plus it was the middle of the morning. It sounds like you have worked had based on the way you described how much you try. So many people in the world don't try hard at much of anything---I always respect a good effort in anything. You are welcome for the words. I do not say them to be flttering though. I say them because I've seen them in your profile, the way you post, the things you say. Of course I could be wrong every time I think I see something (or don't). I juts don't say that with every post, although it is how I approach each one---that I could be wrong. Communications--two way, and deifficult at best! A sender, and receiver, the back the same way. Lots of room to read something wrong. (i.e., the thing between you and Vyk tonight) Communication error--and you guys straightened it out quickly!! I think that is COOL! I agree about complicated....! I wish you were at a point in life where you really did want to be here. I believe you have a ton to offer...to teac me as well as others. I think you can learn from others...mostly yourself probably.....we tend to be our own best teachers if we take the time to listen to ourselves!! LOL Do you have any plans for the week as far as participating??? I see you made a room for yourself. Nothing wrong with that---a great communication tool IHMO. I won't enter...although if you ever want to interact )with me anyway--I can only speak for myself) I'm willing to chat with you any time. And especially listen if you need an ear. just one request though----if you want only an ear and no words, let me know...I'm a problem solver by default. Just need to a nudge if the other is wanted. Is there anything I can do that would make your stay better for you!? |
Arreal | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:47 pm  Hello, I ventured to this wild side again. Yes, Custard's last stand. hehehe cute Vyk. So Rog, what do you think of Yate's plea bargain? Strange...these are the kinds of things that makes me wish I could condone capitol punishment. Xenia-is you room padded walls or rubber walls? |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:54 pm  Arreal---hi!!!! I haven't gotten to speak at you all eveening...are you sticking around?? I was just talking to Xenia---from my perspective a very good chat!! Xenia, would you mind Arreal talking too??? Plea bargain?? Huh??? I've been inside my building just about the past week...missing 5 dinners over the course. What happened? I'm not familiar with much of the details fo what's happened at all from the beginning..is he the serial kiiler?? |
Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:58 pm  Arreal: Padded with books!!!! Roger: Ok, my next question: How do you feel about the restrictions of communicating just wiht text. You mentioned miscommunication. It is so easy for miscommunication to happen especially when you're only mode of expression if text. Do you find it frustrating? I wish I could be in a better frame of mind as well. To be honest, I had made a major move in May thinking it would change my life. It turns out that it hasn't been what I thought it would be. I'm living in a city where I don't speak the language and I can't get over the language barrier and it sucks. I used BB as a way to distract myself from my conflicted feelings about living here. Now that's over and I have to go back to facing reality. And I'm not happy about it. But that and PMS seem like excuses. I'm just totally frustrated wiht everything right now. And being part of a virtual reality isn't helping me cope with my real reality. Arreal: I want your last wrod on thei Gail thing. I know you guys made up and that's cool. But I'm still pissed off over the whole principle of it all. We don't have to discuss this at length. I just want your final thoughts on it. If you're over it...I should be. |
Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 10:59 pm  Of course Arreal can chat!! We can do some mismatched bonding. |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:12 pm  Xenia---frustrations and distractions don't help this situation at all. In the big scheme of things, communicating in the twon you live in is pretty damn important!!!! I like the restriction, personally. You are correct about the limits it poses and the diffiluties. I like a challenge though, and learning to better communicate under such conditions can only help me out from this point forward!! It alsohelps take the emotion out of things--unless you intentionally add that in--usually easy to tell when it happens. SO, one might ask, how does evreyone get so much emotion of the posts?? It's by them adding it in themselves!!! Much like your writing excerces, a great exercise in not adding something that isn't there without asking first. (for me anyway) I saw some of your stuff on BB posts---live post feeds, right?? Good objective work, if I remember correctly! Hey, if this is causing a distraction in your real world, then you have to deal with that other stuff the beast you can. There is no crime in bad timing!!!!!!! It happens to all of us, and usually isn't an issue of anyone being at fault. Hell not too many people knew waht was going to happen once we got in here!! Look at some of the posts on how surprised people have been about how it's affected them... not good or bad (except to those people)...just a data point. You mentioned the PMS thing a couple of times before... your hormone imbalance really gets you I take it....is it going any better yet??? Were you honestly pissed about not bing the one to go?? You seemed that way, although wasn't sure if it was you being caught up in the moment--your reaction thing. |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:15 pm  btw--where did everyone go??? It looks like it cleared out just after 9:00?? Anyone coming back?? Anyone else here??? |
Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:17 pm  I thought Arreal was here... |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:19 pm  Was here!! Arreal??? |
Xenia | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:22 pm  My next questions for you: Do you already own a CD burner? And why did you apply for the game? My PMS: Yep. It gets bad. Not only that, but I refuse to put any kind of intense drugs in my body so I just rely on Tylenol. You are so luck you are a guy. It sucks having to rearrange your life for a few days to accomodate pain and mood swings. Was I really angry about not leaving? Yes. And I am convinced if the Gail thing hadn't happened I think I would have gone. I envisioned myself put this behind me and just doing other stuff. I've calmed down though. Do you do anything with Photoshop? Also, if you like this kind of communication, have you ever taken an online class or have thought about it? |
Arreal | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:25 pm  Yes, Yates is the serial killer. He plead guilty to 13 counts of murder...they are extracting a body from his front yard today and tomorrow. Because he pleaded guilty he avoided the death penalty in spokane county. He still had to go to Tacoma and face two murder chargers there...he could get the penalty there. Final thoughts on Gail---I misunderstood a great many things in that situations. I did not understand that she told me because she truly wanted a friend to talk to. I was confused when she asked for my trust...I wasn't prepared to give it to her...that was obvious by my letters to Admin. Looking back I was paranoid and confused. I felt like I was getting the run around from Neil and from Gail. It was a very frustrating situation that I did not handel very well. When I did finally tell Roger what I knew, it wasn't my intent to tell everyone at the beginning of the hot tub thing. I was being silly. Like I said, the more Vyk and Gail denied, the more challenged I felt. I feel as though my lack of trust hurt a few people in here. I was hurt as well. As for Gail being a moderator and a 'contestant', I would have felt better had it not been announced prior to the Game that moderators were not eligable. But that was announced and I felt betrayed by that. To put blame for the entire situation on one person, I can't do that. I will say I think many things were handled poorly in the entire situation, from Gail being in the game to the trust issue to the name calling. I don't think Vyk, Gail, Admin or myself handled things vey well. I hope we all learned a little from it. I regret the hurt it put in our group and the strain it put those on the outside in. I hope Gail and I can work at building a friendship. I hope she can understand how I got so confused and how I was hurt also. I hope she forgives me. For me, it is over and I harbor no ill feelings towards anyone. |
Arreal | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:33 pm  I'm here, just slow... |
Roger_Ramjet | Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:34 pm  I'll assue that first question for Arreal, since it asn't me that said I own a CD burner?? LOL about guys not having PMS condotions....we do!!! For us, it happens all at one time!! Between the ages of 12 and 19!!!! We go through in a few years what you have spead out over most of your life. The whole Gail thing was unfortunate...like life though, they crop up every once in while and must be worked through. Sorry that it caused anger for it. I also remember your comments about why you couldn't walk out. A tough situation to be in. I leave it to you to figure out what is best for you to do... What is Photoshop??? (I guess that would mean I don't do anything with them)lol Never taken an oline class..never thought about it. What caused you to ask those two questions?? With working all the time, I haven't had time for much else.....his completely takesmy sleep time away, although it's more than worth it to me!!! Will you still stick around for the week?? Actaully till Frday evening...or are you looking at packing it in?? Curious is all--no feelings about what you should do--that is yours alone to decide! |
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