Talisker (Moderator) Discussion Started

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Guruchaz

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 12:45 pm Click here to edit this post
Catch up on it and a few others in the HG's Discussion area.

How did a moderator get into the game anyway? Was that planned from the beginning?

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:00 pm Click here to edit this post
I think so and I thought the rules said no moderators. If a rule was broken to put a moderator in, were other rules broken?

Karuuna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:04 pm Click here to edit this post
Katie -- I have looked at the "rules" specifically and there's nothing about "no moderators". Anyone else find that anywhere? Maybe in the early game discussions?

Petunia

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:18 pm Click here to edit this post
One of the moderators told us they weren't allowed to play - I took that to mean it was a rule.

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:33 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes we were told that by Neil and some of the other moderators a few times. Now it is funny that no one can find it after Gail is in the game.

Ocean_Islands

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:05 pm Click here to edit this post
They were deleted.

Noslonna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Talisker has a "Plan!"

Ocean_Islands

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Host has finally admitted that they knew who Talisker/Ryder/Gail was before players were chosen to participate in the game. See this post from The Game posted by HOST:

Topic #5 - What do you think about Talisker?
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The ClubHouse: The Game - Play Room: General Discussions: Topic #5 - What do you think about Talisker?
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Players, you have realized that Talisker(Ryder) is actually Gail, a TVClub Moderator. Discuss what you would like to do about it if anything. After you have discussed this issue, a poll will be conducted over the weekend to decide if you would like Talisker booted out of the Game. Majority Rules in this respect.
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Host
Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:41 pm
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There are 2 issues at hand here:
1. Talisker being a moderator, and
2. Players receiving outside information.
The Host can not prevent issue #2. We specifically asked that you be sequestered to the Play Room, and to not address any E-mail messages being sent to you from the outside... Since this is an online game, we have no control whether you chat on other programs, or send or receive E-mail from your friends... If you are breaking the rules, and we don't know about it, there's nothing we can do.
Regarding the first issue, I will respond to your questions.
Big Host was aware of Talisker's situation prior to choosing her to play the Game.
Talisker has no special privileges as a Player of the Game and is treated just as the 8 of you are. All rules apply to her, just as they do to you.

Karuuna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Noslonna -- LOL!

Lafatme

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:46 pm Click here to edit this post
did you guys read tali's post? she says she has no special advantages but is playing as any other player. then she says she has been emailing big host with comments about what should be changed-isn't there a suggestion or request thread for her to do that ?

and again i question how she knew what optics aol screename was. why didn't she chat within the game instead?

why put the pressure on arreal of her secret? arreal was then in the position of having an unfair advantage over the other BGs. she didn't want that so she told the truth, as EVERYONE should have from the start.

Admin

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:59 pm Click here to edit this post
RE: Question from Players asking if Vykin is two or more players

This question was answered YES in error. The actual answer is NO. Sorry for any confusion. This was not meant as a deliberate attempt to stir trouble, it was a legitimate error on MY part.

Please accept my apologies and don't judge the entire game based on this false answer.

Azriel1104

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 05:16 pm Click here to edit this post
I have no problem with a moderator playing the Game. I just don't like that they have had an AOL chat outside the game and emailed each other.

Since Neil, doesn't want to banish all the players or replace then with Beth(Neil, it might be your only chance to put Beth in!), then I guess it's up to those of us that don't like what happened here to vote out the people that we think have cheated.

Admin

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 05:21 pm Click here to edit this post
I will confirm that Gail is playing by the rules. I cannot guarantee this 100%, it's her word against ours. Can we guarantee anyone is?

She does indeed retain her moderator abilities (because I need the help with administrative tasks) but she has pledged to play by the rules.

Ryder was created so she could enter the game with a clean slate, undercover if you wish.

She was originally selected as a 'Mole' to make sure the game did not get boring. She was going to inject the odd bit of juicy info once in a while and stir the pot.

Instead, the game started and she voiced her desire to play like anyone else. As far as I know and can tell she has been doing this. She is excluded from any behind the scenes discussions on the game and its organization.

Apparently she began to enjoy herself so much that she decided to disclose her true identity to some others. This was not planned. It was planned that she may be found out and would probably get voted out as a result, but we didn't plan when or how...we just figured it might happen.

There was never any intentional attempt to mislead people or players, no intentional attempt at deceit (except her identity). It was all meant in fun, and I hope it can end that way.

Please see my other post in "I'm trying to remember, is this a game?"

Noslonna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 06:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Admin for reminding everyone THIS IS A GAME!

Judy

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:34 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't mind her being in the game -

I DO mind that she posted as GAIL in the Discussion area -Live Feeds after the Game had started ...on OCt 8 th to be exact

Quote:

Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 01:11 pm
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Looks like the board guests won the Airplane challenge! The Host rewarded them with a couple of links to some fan websites.

(Ed. Just got back from a quick trip out of town. Great Job all you live feeders! It is almost like the show is back on again.)

Ryn: let me know if you need help with archiving live feeds or anything. Nice to be back.


Ocean_Islands

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 05:52 am Click here to edit this post
Here is Talisker's posting of why she was chosen to play in the game. Friday 10/6

Talisker
Friday, October 06, 2000 - 06:50 pm
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I'll go - someone has to show some backbone (and whatever else) around here!

I think I was chosen to play because I am special. I didn’t do any sucking up like others did, I was just being “real” and the hosts liked what they saw. They probably thought I could spice things up with some of the guys! Sure, I can do that! My pleasure! Bring them on! I don’t know how to play naked twister but I can sure play a good game of strip poker.

Nance

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 09:43 am Click here to edit this post
I don't have a problem with a moderator having some fun and being choosen to go into The Game. I don't even have a problem with the instant messenger, icq,msn,yahoo etc. that seems to have added more of a dramatic spark to the game.SO long as nothing about The Game is revealed, ie: backstabbing another BGs,plotting,game plans, BGs taking about nominations ect. in these chats. I don't see what Gail said as having any affect on the Game other then to give Arreal an advantage,that she in fact was told of Gail's id by Gail herself.
Vykin choose to keep quiet about this, not sure if this information was true, yet Arreal knew this information to be true was caught up in a delemma....what to believe ? So Arreal asked the Host ??? IMHO I think Arreal could of handled this differently,but did the best she could with what she had at the time. My thoughts would be to confront Ryder/Gail on this in front of the other BGs and let the others air their opinions,keeping the information where it belonged in the house,working it out among themselves.Letting us as spectors view the interactions and then forming our own conclusion. Instead,the Host was notified and put on the defense RE: Mole ? I just think this was a "MOLE" hill that has now become a mountain. I don't see where either Ryder or Arreal did anything wrong. Ryder trusted Arreal to tell her who she was ? Please help me to see what it is that was so wrong, that either of them might have done ?
I expect people to be honest and if they are saying they are playing the game honestly who are we to question this ? I appreciate the entertainment. may the best Bgs win !

Lafatme

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 12:18 pm Click here to edit this post
well, tali's latest post really frosted me!

let's see...she came into the game under less than honest circumstances, she then chose to reveal that dishonesty to another BG, now she blames the other bg?

whatever happened to taking responsibility for your actions? gail made all the choices and put the responsibility on arreals shoulders to continue the charade.

arreal, not knowing what would be right, asked the host what to do . in an email from host to arreal she was told she could tell the secret to the other BGs. now it's arreals fault???

what kind of logic is this? i posted many times yesterday that i had no problem with gail playing as i've never had anything but positive thoughts about her. NO MORE! if she isn't willing to say "i made some bad choices and i'm sorry" then she shouldn't be playing. she has my vote for banishment.

arreal has posted many times that she is not as fragile as some think, that she can take care of herself and doesn't want sympathy. gail chose again to accuse arreal of playing for sympathy instead of honesty. gail has taken absolutely NO RESPONSIBILITY for this fiasco although she has been involved in every bad decision which led to it. UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Wcv63

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 12:22 pm Click here to edit this post
Lafatme- need a little heat to melt that frost? Go read the thread Talisker's Internet Address (or something like that)

Nikkid

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 12:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Eating Cherries flambe (sp) as I read... :)