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Norequerdo | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 07:54 pm  When I read vykin's post about lessons learned I thought this was by far the best I have read since I came into this whole thing. It is not self serving, isnt about gaining support, isnt about how nice I am. It was real. It was about all of us. |
Wcv63 | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 10:28 pm  Norequerdo I agree. |
Nadi | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 04:44 am  I also agree. Hopefully we will get to read more posts like this. |
Streetjaie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:52 am  I totally agree nor. It was cool. Posts like this are better because they are real. That's why I like Vykin, he is real. |
Noslonna | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:48 am  He made me cry and that takes a lot! (unless I'm PMSing) |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:55 am  okay, sorry to have to say this but... who is streetjaie? this person has only posted to the game boards, never before the game started. almost every post from street is in support of vykin too. what's going on? are people registering under assumed names out here? street says she wants vyk to stick around so we can get to know him better but then acts like he/she already knows him. why are there so many new names on this board since the game and where have so many of the regulars gone? i read flints disclaimer that he was gonna be lurking but flint always had a lot to say and, prior to the game, expressed interest in it. now he doesn't have ANY interest? he has NOTHING to say? flint, if you are lurking, say hello at least. |
Katie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:57 am  Very good points Laf! |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:02 am  I am a new poster and have freely admitted that I was never on before. I found the site when I was surfing the net. Actually it started when I got into the British show Castaway, I recommend it and I was always into Survivor. I never followed big brother but If figured I would check outthe Big Brother site. I did a search and found this. I thought it would be fun to check out how this would work on the internet. I will say this as an outsider sometimes I feel that people who know each other are prone to bashing newcomers as though we don't have a valid thing to say. I know that I was personally attacked for raising questions about one game player. I will say that I am very reluctant to post negative stuff about players because I want to enjoy myself and I dont feel like reading ten posts on what a jerk I am and how I am evil. I have recently posted negative comments but really my comments were related to content and I stand by my statements. So that is why my new namne is on the board. |
Noslonna | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:26 am  Welcome aboard Nor. I found this wonderful site almost by accident. Someone from here (Ewing I think) was in a BB chat room trying to confirm something reported from Live Feeds. I was curious because I liked that a BB site was trying to be accurate so I visited and lurked around ever since. |
Whit4you | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:37 am  It makes alot of sense to me that there would be a # of new posters/ lurkers here since BB went down. I ended up a full time lurker here only after I lost my Survivor. Prior to that I just occasionally lurked here. Those totally hooked on BB - searching for more information, looking for information on their interviews etc, would have found this site in no-time. And seeing this game started - of course they would stick around to see how it develops. In addition a true addict is going to go back and read the posts from the players (I can tell you I did!) Whit |
Kpritch | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:42 am  I was a lurker of the live feed transcripts during BB also. I did not post on here until this new game started. While you may want to believe there is some big conspiracy going with new names, I tend to believe the new names are like me....fellow lurkers from BB. As far as the questions about Vykin, go look at the website for Vykin. After reading through the posts and fan websites since the start of the game, it appears that posters on here know who the other players are, so what is the problem with posters knowing who Vykin is IRL? ------->heading to the confused couch now.. |
Katie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:53 am  The other players have been around long enough to have a fan base but Optics just appeared about the time the game started so how does he have this fan base? |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 12:00 pm  kpritch, my point is that people seem to KNOW vyk. he claims to be optics on the outside. optics only posted twice out here, ever! how could anyone get to know someone from only two posts? my question is "who was optics before he became optics?" more than one name is not allowed-that's the conspiracy i'm worried about. i extended that to say that , if vyk is using more than one name out here, how do we know his supporters aren't too? in his internet cam ramblings he never mentions anyone's name but said "you know who you are" once. he also mention xisav, which is vasix backward. vasix is also new. |
Kpritch | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 12:18 pm  Fair questions. Ok, I know Vykin from the AOL Big Brother Chatrooms. Vykin was a huge fan of BB, so a few of people called Vykin "the Prez." The addressing to the internet cam is to people that know Vykin and miss not chatting during this game. If you look at Vykin's fan website, you'll see who "the fans" are. When Vykin posted on this site during BB, it was under the name Optics, yes? I still am confused on why there is a problem. Is there some rule that if you were not a BB poster on here, that you're not allowed to participate now? As far as Vykin's supporters using more than one name on here, I do not believe that to be true. We're just friends of Vykin that are showing out support. |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 12:19 pm  Laf, I have to admit I have no idea what you are talking about. But it sure sounds a little paranoid to me. I do not say this to insult its just coming accross that way. |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 12:38 pm  nor, i know. SOMETHING is wrong here. i'm gonna look at the BB board and see what vykin was doing there and what posts are archived, maybe there's an answer there. there is a lot of support for vyk, compared to other BGs. my curiosity is where it's coming from? read vyks internet cam posts. they are not directed to us, they are directed to "insiders" who are they? are you saying that you, and others, just came here to support vyk? i understand that's possible. i also question if vyk is not someone the majority know of under another name and if some of his supporters fall into that category as well. nothing specific, just questions at this point. but yes it does sound paranoid. however one is not paranoid if he really IS being followed. which is it? |
Karuuna | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 12:49 pm  Laf -- Vyk also points out that he knew a lot of folks from other BB discussion areas. I can understand that he might tell them he had been accepted into this game and tell them where they can watch/participate. Which brings up another question: once you're in the game, how many contacts in your life do you have to be sequestered from? How much do they have to know about the game before you can't communicate to them? What if you'd been talking to them before you were in the game, then somewhere during the game you told them about it and then they started coming here to read the discussions? Do you break off contact then? All of this seems rather fuzzy to me... |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 12:51 pm  No I didnt come to support Vykin. I have posted positive postings about Vykin as observations of the posts that I have read. I also think I have made other positive posts. I only intentionally posted negative posts about one player and that started yesterday and it was against Xenia. I have always said why I posted the negative post and I do stand by what I said. I guess what is striking me is that there seems to be all these smokescreens both outside the game and also inside the game, to what end I don't know. People on the inside are just bashing other players and not even about substantial issues. It has sunk to a level of name calling, etc. Now it is coming out on the observer boards. If you write a positive post about something suddenly you have an ulterior motive. The poster is attacked. So what is the point in all this. I am still hanging around because I want to see how it turns out but you know what, I don't think the game is progressing down the road the creators intended. I could be wrong but it sure is looking more like Jerry Springer to me. Why not just let them fight amongst themselves inside the room and those of us on the outside can at least have some intelligent conversations about any posts that we see. Right now, I think the only one with any redemming qualities is Luke. AND NO I DONT KNOW HIM PERSONALLY> |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:09 pm  nor, please re read my posts. i have not ATTACKED, nor called anyone NAMES on this board. i have tried to communicate questions i have. if i had the answers i wouldn't ask. something doesn't FEEL right. i DON'T KNOW what it is. i think someone probably does know and i'd like that person, or persons, to fill the rest of us in. that's all. i have no animosity toward ANYONE here. i'm just asking and trying to point out why i have questions. hope you understand. |
Whit4you | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:19 pm  I think the thing that doesn't FEEL right is that Optic/Vyking seems to think there is NOTHING whatsoever wrong with comminicating with anyone else about this game "outside" the game. He's very upset with ArReal for making a "big deal" out of the fact that the two of them have been having private little IMs while chatting on the boards. I'd like to know how they found out each other's AOL screen names (hmmmm) So perhaps a few of his fans - people he told he was going to be involved in this game. Are here watching and posting and so on (no problem there) But perhaps what isn't feeling right - is that if he's chatting with THEM about this game "away from the board" getting inside information, and knowing alot more about what's going on IN the game then the rest of the guests. Then it would seem confusing to us. A big piece of the puzzle was missing and we were not aware of it, till ArReal decided to bring it all up. (let me point out if his friends/fans ARE telling him things then I don't think THEY are the ones doing something wrong. If I were in the game I would not discuss anything going on regarding the game with any of my friends that I am in contact with that are watching this transpire) Whit |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:21 pm  Laf, I didnt mean to imply taht you attacked. I was just making a general comment that this was getting such a negative feel to it. It isnt you but I have been in and out of the boards and see a common thread developing. I just wish we could all just focus on the game and if they are doing all this plotting in the game and there is subterfuge wouldnt it be great if we could all agree to pick the best man/woman. Lets talk about who we believe is playing the game honestly. |
Noslonna | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:25 pm  Karuuna you said, "All of this seems rather fuzzy to me..." I think you have hit the proverbial nail on the head. I like fuzzy logic. It's a departure from classical logic, instead using simple True or False decisions and assignments. Formally, fuzzy logic is a structured estimator that approximates a function through linguistic input/output associations. Fuzzy logics solves many types of "real-world" problems, especially when controlled by a human operator or where ambiguity or vagueness is common. Typically fuzzy logic consists of a rule base, membership functions, and an inference procedure. |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:42 pm  nor, that's all i wanted to do WATCH THE GAME enjoy the competition. i just read where vyk is MORE THAN ONE PERSON! so what am i watching? it turns out that i don't know what i'm watching at all. i'm actually being "played" by being deceived by the game organizers into believing i knew the rules, the players, etc. it is quickly ceasing to be fun for me. i am truly disappointed because i've been so into it. now i have no idea what i'm seeing. i am feeling deceived and disrespected as a tv clubhouse member. that's not right. |
Wcv63 | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:46 pm  Maybe part of The Game is figuring out what we're seeing and hearing? |
Wasdav0683 | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:46 pm  Well seems like alot of talk so I'll add my thoughts! I like Vykin from the BB chat rooms and even tho I didn't always have the same opinions I found him to be a very interesting person-I read the BB posts but never became a member until this game-I do not think Vykin has or would be the kind of person to break any rules of this game-He like the other players is just out to have a good time-I like his style and sense of humor and hope he wins because he is a good fella and a great player! |
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