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Sandyc | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 11:13 pm  10:32PM -- Moondance (on her way to bed) stops into MOST DIFFICULT LESSON DA and says: "Vykin ... The length was perfect and I know that I am so glad you picked us to share it with... again thank you. I think the Prez is all right!" HOT TUB -- 10:35 PM Arreal : "okay....I was trying to remember. But I guess you had it memorized." Roger_Ramjet: " oops let me catch up on reading posts wrote while I was writing--and waiting forever to get to review mode!" Xenia: " The reason why I got so angry with Man was because we had been siting there for hours trying to work on the puzzle and everything was going so well.. I totally suck at puzzles, but at least I was trying. he breezes in and basically said, this doesn't interest me. I had more fun yesterday. I'll come back when it's more fun and less work. And that totally pissed me off!!!!" Arreal: " My day has been fine other that whole frustrating incident. I didn't like the name calling. It was childish and unsettling. totally uncalled for. I'm sucking at them too, but it was fun trying, guessing and being a part of it this time when I felt I couldn't particpate in the last one." Xenia: " Arreal: Memorized??? LOL It's the magic of copy and paste... I wanted to also apologize to you Arreal, I had said yesterday that I would protect you from anyone who would say anything insulting and Man said some really mean things in three seperate posts. I left and did a RR visit rather than sticking around to come to your defense, and I am really sorry for that... By the way, the reason why I'm sharing all this with you is because I've never had an issue with either of you. And I've appreciated the way you've both treated me." Arreal: "I can see how you may have took it that way. I just saw him as being whiney. lol And I agreed with you that he had the option to leave or go start a topic." Xenia: "I've been really nasty toward various people here. But from my perspective, they gave as good as they got, and I knew where to draw the line. Man's comment was really mean and hurtful on a personal level that I just don't think was appropriate for him to go to. Also, I have another confession I wanted to share. I'm obviously getting banished first, so I thought this would be a good time to explain... cont..." Arreal: " thanks Xenia. I appreciate the honest and your wanting to stick up for me. I really don't need it. I am one tough cookie. I found his outburst frustrating but also amusing. Funny how a grown man can be negative and call me fragile all the while bashing me for saying his name calling was childish. It was frustrating and amusing. Iteresting seeing peoples characters come more into view. from my stand point, I just always found you were a bit harsh. Easy to anger. but you also apoplogized when you realized you were wrong. After I nominated you I wanted to change it to someone else...but I didn't. Me bad. I knew it was cut and pasted. I was breing silly." Roger_Ramjet: "I got caught up--sorry for the timing. Well, that was an education form the both of you. I remember asking everyone fighting to either not attach each other--just the differences in issues, or just admit you're fighting. I didn't get flamed for it, although it sounds like you did, Arreal??? wow, I wonder why I didn't get it too? Xenia, for sucking at the challenge, I thought you did great!! btw, I don't agree at all of Man's description of you. Xenia, I earlier told Arreal that I think you are a little reactionary--just a triat you have. I don't think you mean anything by it at all. Just your nature. If you do mean it to be personal, I've mis-read you big time! Frigid??? huuummm I appreciate you guys telling me what you experienced from your point of view (not implying it's wrong or anything--just saying it's what you had to say). I'm glad I can count o you guys to say your piece. I respect people who are willing to do that." Xenia: "Weeks and weeks ago, Moondance mentioned in a BB thread that she was into anstrology. I e-mailed her and asked if she'd do my chart for me. When she said yes, I sent another e-mail and told her a lot of personal stuff about me and my life. Then fast forward to now. We both got picked for the game and right from the beginning I felt uncomfortable with her because she knows things about me and I know nothing about her. I thought I could handle that, but obviously I couldn't. Ok...I think that's about it. From now until I get banished on Friday, I'm not going to participate a whole lot. Man's comment was like icing on the cake. This went from being not very fun to being hurtful. And maybe I asked for it because of the way I behaved. But I was just so fed up with him. I'm done. Any thoughts before I go to bed?" Arreal: "I'm sorry it hasn't been much fun for you. There is no reason this should have gotten ugly and mean. I hope when and if you get out you will have people to support you. You deserve support. A hug for you, even though I know you hate them, I want you to know I care and think you're a neat gal. have a good nights sleep, Sweet dreams" 10:56 PM Roger_Ramjet: " Xenia, yes, I have some thoughts. I can appreciate you feeling uncomfortable with Moon and the information balance (lack of balance). I can also understand that the comments you quoted could be hurtful. I don't know if it was really him that said that, or the character he brought into the house. I hope it was the character. Next, I don't know that it will be you for sure. You have a lot of good qualities, and many people support the folks who keep things going. Not a bad combination! Next, I enjoy having you in hear and playing the game. You have energy, get intense, and also can be very reflective. I have a high level of respect for you. I want you to do what you really want to do, although I know I'd enjoy it more if you continued to participate. Information to do with as you wish--it is how I feel." Xenia: " Thanks Arreal and thanks for reading all of this and commenting on it. Your kindess touches my heart. And good luck to you!!!!" Arreal: " I didn't get it either. I didn't find that I attacked in my inital post. He must have felt attacked for some unknown reason by me, or he was being very defensive. I do admit, after I was attacked I slung one back his way." Xenia: " And thank you to you as well Roger. Your thoughts are also deeply appreciated. I knew you guys were the perfect tow to come to, to explain myself. Again, thank you. Have a good night." Arreal: " Thanks Xenia, means alot." Roger_Ramjet: " Thanks Xenia--I hope you have a good evening. We will be seeing you tomorrow---I hope. I always look forward to your inclusion to this game. Arreal--you and I again--you staying around for awhile to talk??? " Arreal: " I don't know. I did find Man's nominations interesting also. He said he didn't know anyof us really to base nominations on, yet he nominated 3 males. I just found that interesting. Maybe a tie in to why he bashed me and not you. Can't really speculate fairly. ONLY if you aren't tired and DON'T need sleep." Xenia stops in the Challenge Discussion Area on her way to bed: "I'm off to bed. But just in case I don't get back here by 3, I just wanted to state that if you guys want to go with the "Jane is the architect that build the building" or any other variations. That works for me." HOT TUB -- 11:09PM Roger_Ramjet: " I shouldn't have said flame--I thought I'd get a "butt out" kind of comment from the ones involved--I could certainly see them saying that. Not that bad if they did. Nothing like having someone trying to ref when it's the heat of the moment. I like the end of the day conversations. I like to reflect at the end of each day--try to put something into perspective." |
Sandyc | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 11:24 pm  HOT TUB -- 11:15PM Roger_Ramjet: " I'm always tired---don't sleep well at night normally. Been that way for a year now. Actually I've gotten the best quality sleep (if not the most) since starting this game. Need sleep?? I can do well without a lot as long as I have focus. These conversations provide it, and I like them better than sleep. Much nicer! That means I'm up for more chat! Arreal: " lol....I like late night convos too. I was bothered by the comment made....(from my post on camera)... I do find it amusing that I was called boring, and fragile. They are certainly not things that have ever been attributed to me by people who know me, not even pissed of boyfriends. "I should feel blessed that I have many 'boring' personalities, rather than one." (paraphrased) Boring? Interesting choice of words. He also said that I lived in a different reality than he did and I should take my whiny fragile self elsewhere. this is where I said I'm glad my reality didn't include living in delusions of granduer. Me bad. Like I said, both amusing and frustrating. So in all honesty I am not sad he is gone." Xenia went to SEXUAL ADVANTAGE DA -- 11:17PM "I think the advantage women have over men is that they are raised to believe it is socially acceptable, and expected, for them to be vulnerable and expressive and emotional. This is advantageous for women on so many levels. For example, it gives women a chance to deal with their internal struggles much more openly and freely. The advantage men have over women is that their social expectations are higher. Because men are expected to have more and succeed more than women, women's abilities are underestimated and often overshadowed while the opportunities afforded to men are more plentiful. And their goals and ambitions are taken much more seriously. " (Ed note: I have to go to bed. Roger and Arreal are going to be up for awhile. Anyone out there up to it???) |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:04 am  Internet Camera Xenia: I will behave and be nice to everyone for my last day here. Moondance: Things started out shaky today but it is definitely better! Thanks to all out there! Hot Tub 11:00 PM Roger: Arreal, you staying around for awhile to talk? Arreal: ONLY if you aren't tired and DON'T need sleep. Roger: I'm always tired, don't sleep well at night. I can do well without a lot as long as I have focus. These conversations provide it. That means I'm up for more chat! Arreal: I like late night convos too. Roger: I like the end of the day conversations. I like to reflect at the end of each day, try to put something into perspective. The coversations during the day don't get like they do at night. Like we have to shift gears to have them. Arreal: I noticed that. With more than three the conversation goes in too many directions. I think attention is more focused in the evenings, simply less distractions, less people. I have problems sleeping too. Roger: I sleep much better with someone I care about in the same bed. I haven't slept well in the past year. Arreal: I used to sleep better with someone but now that hubby insists on a water bed I don't sleep well. I find it frustrating to roll to his side of the bed. I sleep better when he is away or works nights. I like some of the side effects of my night time meds too. I hope it improves for you soon. Sleep is a good thing. Roger: I don't figure it will improve until I am involved with someone. Hasn't happened for quite awhile. I miss what comes with a relationship. 11:15 PM Arreal: I want to hear why you are going to win this game. Roger: I can't really know that! My approach to this is to go in with the intention of winning. I project to myself that I will win... that I know I will. I believe I will. If I don't believe it, how can I expect anyone else to belive it? I am serious about the win being important. Arreal: Good old fashioned positive thinking. Roger: Positive thinking, I may take it to a new level at times! 11:30 PM Roger: Intensity is involved in serious conversations about people or ourselves, we use a lot of energy toward them. I also get energy from them! Arreal: I like intense conversations. They also energize me. I know people who are intimidated by an intense conversation. There is no way to avoid discord in a situation like this. Discord is okay, intensity is great. I like people. I like life. 11:45 PM Roger: That winning thing, I was over at a work-mates place talking about Survivor and winning and the money. At the same time we both said out loud, "the most important thing is just winning!" It's how we both feel about competition. My intensity and drive to win and never quit are things he can relate to. I'm the only person he knows of my age with those traits so strong. He seems to respect me for that. Arreal: I understand the competitive thing. Roger: Maybe that's why we end up having these most nights. To participate takes intensity and focus. Seems like it's almost in person at times. I find that amazing in itself and maybe why this is so successful. I don't know how much you get into it while sitting there. I get energy and I also relax. Intensity and relaxing at the same time. How does it affect you? I don't pay attention that there can be people listening. I notice that there are late posts on the watching thread. I guess since I don't mind anyone seeing it I forget it's there! Arreal: I also get so wrapped up in it that I forget about it being posts for others to see, in the evening especially. A lot less going on to distract me. I am very easily distracted unless totally engaged. I can get totally focused in the evening. I know what you mean about feeling like it's almost in person. Roger: I knew I could get into it with someone who had the same traits. There are a couple in here like us. It would be interesting to know what others think of these late night talks. There must be some feeling about it! |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:09 am  Internet Camera 11:50 PM Moondance: Hey you guys did Xenia go to bed? I want to talk to her about being uncomfortable with me. I guess I could post it for her if she gets up. Roger: Xenia did turn in for the evening. Did you want to talk? We can include you in our convo. How did you hear she is uncomfortable with you? Arreal: (((Moon))) She went to bed a while ago. Moondance: Thanks for the hug. I needed that. (Hugs Arreal and Roger) Sorry to interrupt you guys. 12:05 AM Moondance: I was restless and just sat down and started reading. I feel terrible. I can understand her feeling that way, I just had no idea! If she gets up will you tell her it's on this thread? We aren't suppose to email or I would do that. 12:10 AM Arreal: I will tell her. Don't worry until you have a chance to talk to her. (((Moon))) Roger: Kind of weird how it all happened. Completely innocent of any intentions. That's what makes it so unfortunate. How are you doing? You sound VERY sad. Sorry to hear about this. It's not a problem if you'd like to join in or if you want to talk about how you're feeling about this. (((Moon))) 12:15 AM Moondance: I just wish I knew she felt like this. The last emails we exchanged were awhile ago. She said to take my time on the chart and I said after BB. Then this happens. She is very special and I understand her feeling that way. She didn't know me well enough to know that anything would stay between us and I told her I had a lot to share with her. The timing sucked! Sometimes she gets up during the night. If she does please tell her to read my posts. I'm glad I read every post in this game! I would not want to have missed hers. Thanks you so much. Good night, night owls. Moondance's Message to Xenia: I wish I would have caught you before you turned in. Xenia, first I completely understand why you would feel that way. I am so sorry we didn't converse before we got in here. I have your transitional chart almost done but I put it aside until BB was done. Now this. I will send it eventually because I told you I would. (I think we even mentioned both of our schedules were booked) I didn't realize it would be uncomfortable for you so let me apologize. I hope you know that anything you told me was strictly between us. That's why I haven't said anything in here. I won't do that to a friend especially if it is personal. I do consider you a friend which kind of confused me when you seemed annoyed with me in here. Please let me know if you want to know anything about me. I had already told you that there were a couple of things I could relate to and I still want to share that with you! Okay, I am going to try to sleep again. Nite All |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:23 am  Correction to post above: It was in Hot Tub NOT Internet Camera. |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:50 am  Hot Tub Conversation in Hot Tub continues... 12:20 AM Arreal: I have always liked jabbering into the night. I get a huge burst of energy at night. I don't give the outsiders much of a thought at all unless I'm talking to the camera or the RR. I hope they are enjoying the game like we are. I hope they aren't being too negative. It would be fun to be out there. 12:25 AM Roger: I don't mind them being negative so much. You may feel a lot different about that. I just wait to see what they had to say. I'm sure it will be as interesting as what we are feeling in here. I'd much rather be playing than watching. I like being an active participant if possible. 12:25 AM Arreal: Xenia will probably understand Moon. You are a very sweet person and people can see that. She didn't know you that well so was unsure about the trust issue. It's understandable for her to feel cautious and uncomfortable. Being in this place didn't allow much room for you two to talk openly about it. She didn't need the added stress of the name calling. She may feel better about things in the morning. I hope you can get some rest. (((Moon))) Roger: Moon, I second what Arreal just said! Moondance: Thanks Roger and Arreal. I know she doesn't like them but I wish I could give Xenia a hug too! 12:40 AM Arreal: When I said negativity towards us I was really meaning being nasty, mean and hurtful. I read some of the post to various HG's in the so called LOVE THREADS that were brutal and just plain mean. I hope we don't have much of that out there waiting us. It does bother me. I won't like not being seen as honest. I won't like being seen as self absorbed. I won't like seeing the term "crazy" used in reference to me. That would bother me. I can be sensitive, but not fragile. I have breaking points with my mental illness but those are my defense mechanismism. That doesn't make me weak or crazy. I don't want to see people assuming that I have talked about my illness for a pity vote. 12:50 AM Roger: It's weird that someone would use weak as a descriptor for you. I have never thought of you in that manner. Sensitive with the ability to have your feelings hurt but not weak. Wow, you used the "P" word! I never would have thought of it in those terms for you! It's like the joke about driving, anyone going slower is a weak bast@ard and anyone going faster is a maniac. In other words, anyone different than that person is wrong. 12:55 AM Arreal: Pardon my ignorance, but why does that come up looking like a link? Roger: Not a clue and I'm not going to click on it. Arreal: Had to ask. It brought up a self addressed email to someone named Bast@ard at AOL. LOL |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:08 am  Hot Tub Conversation in Hot Tub continues... 1:00 AM Arreal: I want to expect the best, yet be prepared for the worst. If there are mean cruel things I need to be able to shut them out. The honest negative posts that are intelligent judgement calls I can handle. I have to keep an open mind about myself and other people. I also need to protect the vulnerable side of me. Different isn't wrong. Have you read Brave New World or any of the novels that try to create a Utopian society. Differences in people make life enjoyable and interesting. 1:10 AM Roger: I haven't read much for quite awhile. Work seems to take up most of my time. I love my job! "Open mind" reminds me of something: "We are not borm with maps; we have to make them and the making requires effort... But many do not want to make this effort. Their maps are small and sketchy, their views of the world narrow and misleading." - M. Scott Peck The Road Less Traveled. 1:15 AM Arreal: I liked that quote. I need some rest now. Wish I had more stamina. I enjoy talking to you very much at night. Big hugs, good niters and sweet dreams... no tossing or turning. 1:25 AM Roger: Good night. Hugs to you as well. It has been great shooting the breeze with you. 1:30 AM Arreal: Night... |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:18 am  Internet Camera 1:20 AM Arreal: (((Nor))) thank you for the banner. It was really sweet and I appreciate it very much. All is fine okay? I will talk more to all in the morning. I'm really pooped right night now. nigh-night. Bathroom 1:40 AM Roger: That was great! Relaxed, feeling damn good. I enjoy talking to Arreal. She seems to stay up later than the other BG. Time to hit the rack and get some sleep. The Esseence of Success: Sucessful is the person who has lived well, laughed often and loved much, who has gained the respect of children, who leaves the world better than they found it, who has never lacked appreciation for the earth's beauty, who never fails to look for the best in others, or give the best of themselves. I have something to strive to! |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 11:40 am  The Virtual House New Banner: CURT AND JOSH TALK ABOUT ANGELS ON RADIO SHOW Boy's Room 7:00 AM Vykin: Another restless night. Too many conflicting emotions. I see Roger, Luke and I are the only ones who are using the bathroom. I wonder where the others go? I'm ready for another new day. 8:20 AM Luke: Time to get up! What's this... kinda wet.... Wow I haven't had one of those dreams in awhile! Locked up in this house for how many days now? Shit! Better wash the sheets too. 9:20 AM Roger: Time for me to get up! Bath Room 7:05 AM Vykin: HiMay, lol on the cigarettes. Has someone been leaking my RR confessions to you my friend? I dropped by the Pickle site last night. I should have a site today. I will let you know. Luke: I can wash these sheets off in the shower. I wish I could remember the entire dream! 9:25 AM Roger: Shower, brush teeth, brush hair (a 10 second job). Let's get busy! Internet Camera 7:30 AM Vykin: My peoples, this is your Canadian Prez. Xenia really gave me a run for my money yesterday. This afternoon we go to supreme court. Today we should have our official website up. Weird things are happening around here since the nominations. Mantastic pulled a "premature ejaculation" from the house. Didn't even say good bye. I would have liked him to tell us why. I did enjoy him and read all his posts. We're one guy short now and a Canadian at that! The pressure mounts. Xenia is nuts! I was glad to see a banner for my pal Arreal. Be gentle with her my people, she's a good person. Roger is working away at our challenge. He's good at that. I know this isn't an exciting address but I have legal issues to deal with today. I had a "moment" yesterday in Lessons Learned discussion. Who said the Big Kahuna doesn't shed a tear? I miss you all. Stay tuned for a 15 minute infommercial by HiMay, who will take you through the 13-step program of How Not To Quit Smoking Without Really Trying. Public Service Announcement: Tell someone that you love them. If you can't do it in voice, do it in writing. Renree this one's for you. 9:10 AM Arreal: Morning everyone! Again, thank you to Nor for the banner. Thanks also for your support. I honestly understand your fear of having someone with my disorder being a care giver of a loved one. The only real harm, is the harm I could cause to myself. I admire Xenia and can now see past her harshness. I hope you all take a second look and find the value of keeping her in the house. I would like to see Xenia stay. My opinion of her has changed. Watching her react is interesting and educational. I wish I could ALWAYS stands up for myself. Watching her express anger makes me feel stronger. I saw the web pages for me and I appreciate them. I wish I could ask you guys questions. I would like to know: - Do you get passionate about the BG's like we did about the HG's?
- What things frustrate you about this game and us in here?
- What topics would you like to see dicussed?
- Are you fighting and bashing each other?
- How do you pick favorites since you know us on some level prior to entering the house?
- Have opinions of people changed in the past week towards particular BG's? Why?
- Are you having fun?
I fear being judged harshly or unfairly. I fear anger and the expression of it. I want to face this experience completely and get the most out of it. That includes risking judgement. It includes facing things that are uncomfortable for me. It includes being open enough to learn from others and change my opinion of them. I will let you get back to reading other posts or work. Whatever floats your boat. Thanks for the support out there. HUGS Living Room 7:35 AM Vykin: Did you get a look at that new pic Xenia put up on her profile. Man that woman needs lesson on makeup application. Is she related to Tammy Faye? 8:55 AM Talisker: Hi everyone!. Hope everyone is having a great day! See you afterwork in the hot tub. Roger, I agree with you on Mantastic. I wish he talked to us before he made that decision to go. There is much more we could have learned from him. I understand life and obligations get in the way. We were only required to post in the discussion area once a day and to make an effort to help with the challenges. Mantastic upset a few of the group because he was honest enough to tell us that he took a day off to surf. Not sure why others would have a problem with one day. I feel a little guilty that I am not here as much as some of the rest of our group. I can't get to the house from work and don't get back to the house until around 4:30 pm. In the evenings I have to sleep. Anyway, Mantastic, hope you are doing okay and the surfing is great! 9:30 AM Luke: Anybody around in here? 9:40 AM Talisker: I have to get back out pumping shit. 9:40 AM Luke: I'm about to post our final answer to the challenge. Here goes nothing! 10:40 AM Roger: Here goes a win! That's something! |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 12:16 pm  General Discussions Problem With Our House? 7:45 AM Vykin: I would like to sing the following: "Our house, is a very, very, very fine house, With  in the yard Life used to be so hard..." Requests 8:45 AM Arreal: I'm in. Consolidate church, hot tub, living room, and camera. Challenge 4 - Group Puzzle 8:45 AM Luke: Final answer: Jane is the architect of the building, therefore she knew exactly how to get to her destination. 8:55 AM Roger: Luke, do you want to submit it? 9:15 AM Arreal: WAIT,that doesn't explain why she sees no one or talks to no one! 9:20 AM Luke: Doesn't the question simply ask how she was able to get to her destination? Not to worry, I didn't post anything yet in final answer. 9:25 AM Roger: Arreal, we are supposed to explain how Jane can get to where she went in the building without having been there before, talking to anyone or seeing signs. 9:30 AM Arreal: Okay. I just thought explaining that should be addressed. Your call. I trust you two. 9:35 AM Talisker: Luke: Trust the force! Do what your instincts tell you do young Jedi! 10:00 AM Moondance: I am at work so I can't stay but I wanted to say it all sounds good. Good luck! 10:20 AM HiMay: At work also Moondance. I say go ahead with the final answer. Challenge 4 - Group Puzzle: Final Answer 10:50 AM Luke: Host, here's our Final Answer: Jane is the architect of the building, therefore she knew exactly how to make her way around the building without reading the signs or seeing or talking to anyone. |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 12:22 pm  Requests: Suggestions 10:05 AM Moondance: Hi Host! Arreal agreed to the downsize. the only person so far who has not checked in is Zeb. I will try to find him later. Do you think we can do this soon. It makes it easier to get around and read everything for every one! Thanks, I know you are busy General Discussions Topic # 4 - Sexual Advantages 11:55 AM HiMay: I agree with Moon regarding men's advantage over women. In my experience, men are capable of separating sex and emotion. Men can "enjoy" casual sex and feel it is a positive experience as long as they are physically satisfied. I do not enjoy casual sex and find it difficult to climax if there is no emotional foundation to the relationship. I would go as far as to say that casual sex is a "performance without feeling". It gives me the feeling I have given up a part of my sexual soul without getting any sense of emotional nurturing in return. I don't have sex to feel sexy or loved. I can feel sexy and loved without a partner. The biggest advantage that I have over a man is that I KNOW my own body. |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 04:36 pm  Virtual House Internet Cam 1:50 PM Moondance: Hi Everyone. I want to apologize to Xenia and to you all out there. I am sorry if I have made Xenia uncomfortable. I understand why she is uncomfortable so I am sorry and hope to work it out with her. Hope all is well out there! Living Room 12:30 PM Roger: Folks, I'm not sure when I'll get back to you today. I've got a potential reactive chemical "emergency" to deal with at work. Sorry for this. I'll be back as soon as I can. 1:45 PM Luke: Good luck, Roger. We'll be here when you get back. 1:55 PM Moondance: Hi Luke! What's up? 2:00 PM Luke: Moon! There hasn't been much conversation in here. Roger is out, and I'm waiting for the answer to the challenge. Have you heard from Xenia yet? 2:05 PM Arreal: Howdy there Moon, Luke. 2:10 PM Luke: I like the discussion topic you posted. I'm working on it right now. 2:10 PM Arreal: Thanks Luke. I thought it would be interesting to see how people answer. 2:15 PM Luke: I want to respond to this one because mine will be the only same-sex partner description. My gay-dar hasn't gone off with any of you! Not much conversation was going on so I thought I'd work on the discussions. What have you been up to today Arreal? 2:20 PM Moondance: Very interesting topic Arreal. Hey Luke! I haven't seen Xenia yet today. Your gaydar hasn't gone off! LOL Arreal: Thanks Moon. I hope Xenia shows up. I feel bad for her. She's taken a lot of crap in here. 2:20 PM Arreal: Luke, I've been surfing about, just hangin out online. The board had been kind of slow today. Those first few days everything was so busy here. Now it's getting laid back, quiet. 2:20 PM Luke: I don't want to give the host too many ideas, but early on BB the HG had that round-the-clock challenge: the bicycle. It'd be difficult to have a challenge like that but at least it would keep people talking round the clock. 2:25 PM Arreal: Hey Luke! Shhhh! Luke: hehehe. I won't suggest too many things. Something tells me they've got a lot planned for us anyway. 2:25 PM Moondance: I wish Xenia would have said something sooner. I was clueless and I am so sorry for that. 2:30 PM Arreal: (((Moon))) Try not to feel too bad, this place didn't provide privacy for you two to talk it through. 2:30 PM Luke: Arreal, I had a dream about you last night.(for those of you who read my other post, this was ANOTHER dream) I didn't see you, but I did see your name in big block letters: AR REAL! A surreal dream where I was walking around big block letters and they seemed to be floating. Strange. 2:30 PM Arreal: Please, no dream interpretations on that one. I had a dream last night, I was trapped in the BB house and couldn't get out. Scary. Luke, if a person doesn't have gay-dars do they have stra-dars? 2:35 PM Luke: Arreal, I'm not so sure about the straight-dars. It's socially acceptable to assume that a person is straight. If another man was wearing a wedding ring it's okay for me to assume that he's straight and married to a woman. If I went up to a man wearing a wedding ring, he most likely would be offended if I were to assume that he's gay and married to another man. I do believe in the existence of a type of gay-dar but not a straight-dar. Out of necessity, gay men and lesbian women can develop a sort of "sense" of whether another person is gay or straight. 2:35 PM Moondance: In my dream last night Arreal and I were helping HiMay sneak out of the BB compound. I have no idea where she was going but we were coaching her, "Now when you come back, knock on the wall and we will catch you." LOL I had a dream about Roger, Luke and Talisker the night before last but I couldn't remember it! 2:40 PM Arreal: How funny Moon. We ought to make up limericks about each other in here. I think that would be fun and a challenge. How was class today Moon? Moondance: I didn't have one today. I worked. Arreal: Luke, a question for you: Why then, are some gar-dars wrong? Why do some assume that people are gay. I've been hit on by ex-co-workers. Curious as to what the gay-dar sees or senses? 2:45 PM Luke: I never said it was 100% fool proof. I was simply admiring a man seated on the other side of a restaurant and commenting to my friends, "Now there can't be a more perfect example of a good-looking, but TOTALLY STRAIGHT guy." I think very highly of my gaydar abilities so I was floored when he came over and gave me his phone number! Effeminacy is a very weak judge of a man's sexual orientation. Just as there are very "butch" gay men, there are also numerous "femme" straight men. My gay-dar picks up on a lot of different things... it's not 100% fool-proof but mine is at least 90% certain. Arreal: Lucky you. I'm just curious as to why some straight people seem to be hit on more frequently by gays. It sucks for women that such a high percentage of gay men are DAMN FINE! 2:50 PM Moondance: You are right Luke, sometimes hard to tell. I think you have just good intuition! Luke: Arreal, you're right about that! I have female friends who love coming to San Francisco with me just for the eye-candy! The question I ask myself is, with all the fine gay men out there, why is it that almost all of the gay men I know (myself included) have had the unfortunate experience of falling for a totally straight guy and getting our hearts broken, or beat up! I experienced the former, not the latter. 2:55 PM Moondance: Maybe because you are not ready for a relationship. I believe we bring into our lives what we are ready for. What do you guys think? 2:55 PM Arreal: I wonder if I have to limit the 'physical attributes' of my ideal man to just three? hehehe I best not get myself going, I'm a married woman. 3:00 PM Luke: I was thinking the same thing, Arreal! Moon, there's a lot of truth in your statement. Not to get too philosophical, but my personal quote in my AOL profile is, "Nemo dat quod non habet" by Aristotle meaning "You can't give what you don't have" That was something I learned in my own life in college. That falling-for-a-straight-guy experience was during my college years! 3:00 PM Arreal: Moon, I think a lot of things come into our lives that we are not ready for. Many things in life are out of our control. In relationships. I've been ready for one and gotten involved with a man who turned out to be all wrong for me. He was keeping a verbal abusive side hidden for a while. I was not ready for that. It's not always a conscious choice. When a person gets into ANOTHER abusive situation, they are still hoping this one will be different. Subconsciously they choose comfort. Moondance: I think we are attracted to the non - committable types when we are not ready for that committable relationship. This is not to blame a person for bringing in that person or people because there is a reason, a lesson etc. If someone is abusive it doesn't mean it is your fault. It means you have a choice to learn and get out of that abusive situation. He didn't just become abusive, he always was. You happen not to see the signs. Please, I am not putting the blame on you it is just part of life. Most things are out of control except ourselves. There is a reason we have people in our life. It is not a question of why me it is a question of why? Sorry, am I downer? 3:05 PM Vykin: Hi Arreal, Luke, Moon. Did I come in the middle of something? Moon did something happen to your with another housemate? Sorry, I've been distracted with building my Website, man didn't realize how much work it takes! I'm gonna grab a glass of wine and join the conversation if you don't mind. 3:10 PM Arreal: Vyk, got a question for you: Why were you being so mean to Xenia yesterday? I didn't see anywhere that she could have deserved your attack. I would like to understand. I honestly didn't understand where she deserved either Man's wrath or yours. Am I missing something? |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 07:00 pm  Living Room Discussion continues... 3:20 PM - 4:30 PM Arreal says she has subconsciously chosen to be in bad relationships because they are like a "comfort zone" for her because she is used to being treated badly. She says she could quickly turn a good thing into a bad thing. She says she has learned to break "the cycle of bad relationships." Arreal says she had to learn to learn not to fear good relationships and see herself as worthy. She thinks we have to push ourselves to be ready so it is not picking non-commital types but a willingness to take a risk. Moondance thinks it is a combination of both hers and Arreal's outlooks. She says Arreal is right about the comfort zone and agrees about learning to take the risk. Moon says that is what she was talking about with choice. Luke tells Moon she is not a downer and he says being able to talk about things with people is one of the things that attracted him to the game. Moon tells Luke she feels like she has known him a long time and he reminds her of a male friend she adores who is also looking for "Mr. Right." Luke says he feels the same. He wants her to hook him up with her friend. Arreal laughs and says they are silly. Moon tells Luke if he is ever in the LA area she is hooking them up. Vykin tells Arreal that Xenia should talk to him if she is really upset. He says he just gets annoyed with her sexual overloads. Arreal tells Vykin she hasn't talked to Xenia about it but wanted to understand. She says Mantastic got "out of hand" and Vykin "jumped on the bandwagon." Moon tells Vykin she is partly responsible for Xenia feeling uncomfortable so she can understand why she has been defensive. Roger says he is back because his work day has slowed down. He says hi to the others present and asks if it is a private conversation or do they want more company. Moondance says hi, "the more the merrier!" Arreal says "howdy" to Roger and laughs, Private conversation? "That was hysterical to me considering where we are." Arreal says, "I hope I didn't make Vyk mad" with her comments to him. Moondance says, "LOL Arreal, you are pretty confrontational!... Not." Vykin says he is not mad. Luke tells Roger he posted the final answer to the challenge. He says he had a laid back day at work. Roger comments that they have been talking about Xenia and asks if anyone has seen her today. He tells Arreal she "hit upon a very important insight that people have a tough time with." Arreal tells Roger they haven't heard a word from Xenia and asks him what point she made. Roger answers, "Your point about doing things that are comfortable." Moon asks what he thought of her thoughts on having choices. Roger says, "Moon, yes, I neglected to mention that you had said that and it's a very true situation -- choices." Roger says, "There are many people that seem to not like making choices. I have a few opinions on that issue too. Gee, seems like I have lots of opinions! LOL I'll leave them out of this for now." Roger tells Arreal "one of the great advantages of going through that process we talked of the other night, coming to be able to completely accept who you are, allows a person to never go with comfort again if the comfort is not positive." He tells Moondance she had a good about learning from experience. |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 07:47 pm  Living Room Discussion continues... 4:40 PM - 5:15 PM Moondance says has suffered from an eating discorder and was stuck in an vicious cycle. She tells Roger he hit on an important point, recognizing it is the first major step. She says there are different options out there and people have a choice. She says there are people beaten down so much they feel that this is the only way but asks, "Are they just choosing not to see the way out? It is the longest, hardest journey to a better place. Are they just choosing not to make a choice?" She believes it is "more conscious than subconscious choice." She says she is going to The Improv now because she needs a laugh. Roger tells her to "watch out" for his joke. Talisker joins conversation. Asks if there has been an answer about the challenge and posts a rhyme:Work is the same, Life is the same. Just taking things easy Except for the game. Luke says, "Hey Tali, nice Rhyme. Do you think we're going to have our own song like BB does? Talisker thanks Luke and says she just made it up accidentally. Moondance says, "Luke you are full of challenges that the BigHost can give us." Lukes says, "Oh Yeah! I forgot that was a challenge for the BB guests! They just sounded so stupid, it seemed more to me like comic relief rather than a challenge!" Roger says hi to Talisker and tells her no word but he feels confidant they have won the challenge. He says he has a 20 question challenge that could stump the Host. He asks if anyone wants to challenge the Host. Moondance says the BigHost wrote the Daily Updates, "I don't think I want to challenge her! " Roger says, "Luke, the BB song! It didn't sound too good. I suck at "signing." <sic> Moondance laughs and quotes Roger, "I suck at "signing." Roger jokes back, "Moon, I suck at singing too! LOL Hell, I should just type with my forhead!" Roger asks Tali, "So nothing new? Keeping it comfortable? lol Sorry, too easy to take advantage of, just giving you a bad time." Talisker responds, "Roger, you can give me any kind of time you want! And what do you mean you don't sing? I know for a fact you were out singing that Bruce Springsteen song the night we met outside. Wasn't it I'm on Fire?" Roger says, "Tali you are such the tease!" I wasn't singing was I? I thought I was just saying the words. I make Jamie look like Pavaroti (sp?) -ok, maybe not look. How about sound? LOL" Moon--it sucks to be me! lol Luke says, "Wouldn't it be cool if somehow we could all get together in person once the game is through? I just remembered that I suggested that to the Interrogator in my last RedRoom update. I just thought it would be a great idea to meet all of you. I'm sure we will eventually." Roger says, "Luke, I think that would be fun! Would we still feel the same once the game is over though?? I believe I would." Luke asks, "Don't you think that by the end of October that we're all going to know a lot more about each other?" |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 08:11 pm  Living Room 5:15 PM - 5:45 PM (summary) Talisker: Luke, you play the piano, what kind of music do you play? Are you mostly classical? I used to play some but mostly these days I just play classical guitar and sometimes the alto and tenor recorders. Moondance in reference to Luke's suggestion they meet in real life after the game, "Like Luke, that is your new name! We could say this; if any of us are going to be in the area of one of the BGs then we should call on them! I am not speaking for the BGs, just inviting anyone that is close to my area. Roger: Hey! We won Talisker: Hey! Big H just posted that we won the challenge! Yay! Congratulations everyone! Well done! Vykin: LUKESTER Congrats! We won the challenge. You did great! Talisker: Hi there Vykin! I wonder what kind of reward the Big H will give us this time. Information from the outside world. I hope it is something we can all appreciate this time. I am hoping we can get a message from Mantastic, just something to let us know that he is okay or why he left without saying goodbye to us. Moondance: Doesn't matter to me. I would appreciate any info or anyone's web sites! Bring it on. |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 09:39 pm  Living Room 5:45 PM - 6:30 PM Arreal: Hey Roger, wanna play nekkid twister? Roger: Arreal, look at me! The question is, do YOU want ME playing nekkid twister? LMAO Like I said, keeping it real. Arreal: Well, Rog, you're right. Perhaps you may want to play nekkid Twister with Tali. (she grins) Arreal: I want to have some fun. Stuff that makes me LOL. (ed. Me too) Roger: I was thinking any woman would not want me to play nekkid twister! LOL Arreal: But of course we do. We're stuck in here with four guys, one is gay. We can't be too picky. Moondance: Arreal, what about Nekked hide and seek? Arreal: Moon, that sounds good but the seeker has to be blind folded. Got to find by touch. hehehe It's all good. Are you nekkid yet Roger? Guys go first. Talisker: You said it Moon! Bring it on now! Roger, I don't know about playing naked twister, but I'm sure we could find some way to have fun. Maybe we could pour some bubblebath soap into the hottub and play naked hot tub. Roger: Arreal you'd know if I was nekkid! You'd be blinded by the pain! Arreal: No way Roger. We changed plans to nekkid hide and seek didn't we Moon? Roger: Yes way Arreal! Talisker: The Interrogator is on vacation. Now, I am sad! I like the Interrogator! He's alright! He helps me relieve the stress of being cooped up in the house. Roger: Tali, you are still such a tease! Yep, gone for a week to parts unknown. Five days actually. HiMays: Hey, everyone, just got in! Congrats on the challenge! Woohoo! Moondance: Arreal, naked hide & seek. In the dark! Arreal: Guys all get nekkid and go hide. hehehe. Ya ready Moon? Talisker: Hi May! How are you doing this evening? Yes, we won the challenge but we still don't know what we won yet. Moondance: I am a little worried about Roger with it being in the dark. He is not good with "signing" and all. Roger: May hello! Join us for a celebration. Moondance: Hi May. Did you hear about my dream about you last night? Arreal and I were helping you to sneak out of the BB compound and told you when you wanted to come back in to knock on the wall and we would catch you. I wonder where you were going? HiMay: Moon, do you think I was sneaking out for a conjugal visit with Affinity? hehehe Moondance: May, first thing I thought of when I woke up! HiMay: BigHost just posted our reward. We're FAMOUS! Luke: OH SHIT! WE'RE IN THE NEWS! This is toooo cool! We ought to pick up some extra viewers.. er.. surfers cuz of that article!
Ed. Referring to the spoof NY Times article written by Ocean_Islands and posted as a reward for winning Challenge #4. Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 04:00 pm The ClubHouse: The Game - Discussion Room: General : OMG - New York Times article mentions "The Game" ! Arreal: What do you propose we do Moon? I'm open for suggestions. Roger: Luke, any more wine? Luke: You bet Roger! I'm pouring some glasses right now! Are we all getting naked now? HiMay: I'm celebrating our challenge victory and maybe my last night in the house. Has anybody else wondered about Mantastic leaving? Does this mean that they will only banish one person tomorrow night? Do you think they'll send in a replacement? Roger: Arreal, Luke mentioned it would be fun to meet each other, and I agreed. Two hour trip like the rest of the BG, I'd want to meet you someday as well. Arreal: Roger I still wanna play hide n seek, nekkid in the dark. HiMay: In my application I mentioned meeting in person when I applied for this gig. I think it would be a blast. Wouldn't it be cool if we could all meet on the Oprah or Rosie show? Luke: OMG May, for something like that I'M TOTALLY THERE! I love both those women, Oprah and Rosie! Hehehe, talk about letting our imaginations fly, wouldn't that be something! (ed. Is there some sort of Star Syndrome that psychologically infects BB type contestants?) Talisker: May I have been wondering that myself. I would hate it if two have to leave tomorrow night. Not just because one of them might be me but because we are finally getting things coordinated in this gigantic house and we are connecting. We already have too many times where we are wondering around looking for someone to talk to. Being just seven would suck! Banner: GAME STOPPED BEING FUN - SNAVE Luke: We got a weird banner. What do you think? Does anyone know who Snave is? (ed. geesh!) HiMay: Hey guys, did you see that last banner. What's up with that? I'm having a blast! Talisker: Snave is Mantastic! Is he okay? Luke: WAIT A SECOND! SNAVE IS MANSTASTIC! He sent that message to us from the outside to tell us why he quit! That's it! (ed. puzzle winner brain kicks in.) Roger: Mantastic, sorry to hear it was that way for you. I hope you have fun surfing. Luke: Mantastic/Snave, I'm re-reading your application. Looks like we're neighbors. We should get together sometime, maybe Santa Cruz or something! I wish I could've gotten to know you better in here but I wish you the best of luck! HiMay: Oh Luke, I'm just giddy!! I'm so glad things have settled down and we are really getting to know each other. I feel the hate is diminishing. I think we are all gaining respect for each others differences. BigHost just consolidated the Virtual House. Good for the game but it's going to be hard to play naked hide and seek. Less rooms to hide in! Luke: I'm so happy we won I'm doing the Trinitron dance! Talisker: Thanks Big Host for letting us know about Snave/Mantastic. While it was kind of sad, at least we know why he left. HiMay: Doh! I thought Mantastic was Tukuul, LOL! (ed. dilli doh!) Arreal: LOL May. Oops. Take care Snave and thanks for the banner. Roger: Arreal, I almost thought for just a micro second that you eventually wanted to meet just to say hi. (being so close) Then remembered your security with the computer. Close in geography! I seem to be digging a hole... LOL Arreal: Roger, I flew to Cali to meet someone from the puter! I ain't that enclosed. HiMay: New message from BigHost: Board Guests - As requested, an archive of your Virtual House has been created. We hope this tidies things up for you all. Also, since Mantastic voluntarily withdrew from The Game yesterday, and an alternate was not named, we have decided to banish only ONE player from The Game this week, rather than two. Talisker: Cool! Good luck to all of the nominees! Moondance: Hey you guys. I am trying to find the article on the web and I can't. I wish we could have gotten a link! It said the New York Times but it's not on their web page. I hope you are catching a wave Snave! |
Noslonna | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:21 pm  Living Room 6:30 PM - 7:00 PM Moondance: Hey, did you you catch the other banner? Josh & Curtis talked about the Angels. Pretty cool! [Ed. Moondance is referring to banner flown early in the morning: CURT AND JOSH TALK ABOUT ANGELS ON RADIO SHOW] Roger: Moon, I saw that banner as well. It would seem the board and some of the people are getting some good press! Go angels! Roger: Luke, time for some champagne and a glass to tip to Neil and Host. Luke: KEWL! Banishments are still gonna be hard, but at least it will only be one. HiMay: Hey Luke, I'm watching Will and Grace, my favorite show! Just curious, do you watch it and do you feel like it does the gay community justice or do you see it as just another sitcom? Luke: AHH! Himay10ns, I'M MISSING WILL AND GRACE! I love that show too! I think it's been toned down but I'm glad there are shows like that now. The gay community still has work to do through the mass media. Hmmmm. Maybe I should post on that. Moondance: May, he's LikeLuke, it's the CDWriter dance! That is one of my favorites! I love Thursday TV! HiMay: OK, if you guys watch Will and Grace you know me well. Everyone says that I'm just like Karen! Too funny. Luke: Mmmmm nice bubblee, Roger. Here's to Neil, Our Host, Our Interrogator, and to all the house guests and also to Snave/Mantastic! CHEERS! Arreal: I couldn't find it either. Anybody else try to find the article on the web? Talisker: I think that article might be a few days old! Remember the banner we saw a few days ago: THE GAME MAKES NY TIMES - NEIL & ZEB HIGHLIGHTED Is this the same article? We might have to go back to last weekend. Moondance: Thanks Tali, I checked and I can't find it. Arreal: MOON, I couldn't find it at all. Luke: Moon and Arreal, I couldn't find it anywhere either. Moondance: You don't think Host would trick us do you? (ed. Never!) Luke: Nah. It looked legit. Moon I even checked up on the author's name, Mark Franberg, he's a legit columnist. (ed. WTG Ocean!) Roger: Arreal, let's see what you think of me after the game. Since you are the closest distance it would be easiest to meet you first. See if you want to say hi for real after we are done here. Arreal: Sounds Good Roger. I think it would be fun to meet people. Roger: I'll get back to you at the end of the game (or when we both get banished). We shall see if you still want to then. I would look forward to it. Arreal: LOL Okay. Talisker: Hey! Does anyone feel like going over to the hot tub and having some fun?? Roger, Luke, Moon, May? Luke: OOOHH BUBBLLEE BAATH! Talisker: LOL Luke. Okay, I am heading over to the hot tub with bubble bath and a bottle of cold Auslese! HiMay: Last one in has to clean the hot tub in the morning! See ya there with nothing on but a smile! By the way, Luke, did you get that splooge out of your sheets yet? Luke: OH NO! You weren't supposed to see that! Roger: Arreal, are you up for late night talk again? Hot tub is where the action is. Are you going over or staying? (ed. No answer from Arreal, apparently she has already left) |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:22 pm  Sandy... I'll take over at 8:30 board time so you & Nos can go into Member's Chat. Quite the debate. K? |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:01 pm  (Ed: boy what a time I picked to begin. Hang on while I catch y'all up!) |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:20 pm  10/12 9:56 PM Bath Archive (Synopsis to date, no quoting) ArReal pushes Talisker under the water. Roger asks her why. Ar says it is a secret. Tal asks if Roger ever sleeps {ed: diversionary tactic}? Vyk is also there. Roger wonders why there are secrets. Moon laughs, asks Tali if she held her breath while underwater. Vyk says he wishes Ar had her foot on Xenia’s head, as he is upset with her right now. Tal flirts with Vyk. Roger, determined to find out about the secret, asks Ar why she held Tal’s head under water. Then he asks Tal why Ar did it. Ar responds that she cannot answer, as it is a BIG secret she promised not to tell. (beer passed around) Roger, still intent on the secret, asks Moon if SHE knows. And asks Ar who she promised not to tell. Moon jokes around a bit. Tal says there is no secret, really. Then adds that ar was trying to cover up for Tal and Vyl sitting in tub naked. Ar complains that Rog is twisting her arm over this, and that she promised not to tell. Vyk asks Ar to tell him if X enters, as he is naked and doesn’t want to lose anything before it’s time. |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:36 pm  10/12 9:56 PM Bath Archive – end for this date (Synopsis to date, no quoting) Roger asks Vyk why Ar was holding Tal’s head underwater. Tal & Moon are joking around. Ar says that Vyk promised not to tell secret either. And that Tal knows the secret. They promised not to tell, and she doesn’t want to break that. Vyk says he doesn’t know the secret, but Tal has big lungs and will survive. Then asks if anyone fell for the prize to the challenge they won. Moon not sure she believes it. Moon says she might stay, as she thinks Tal has something to say. Roger says Ar isn’t nice intimating he twisted her arm, and that folks will think he attacked her. Ar responds that it’s a cliché. Later, Rog says he’s sensitive to anyone thinking he would hurt them. Ar explains that Vyk knows, as he was with her when.. when… then she says she’ll tell Roger later. 10/12/10:46 PM Bath Roger tells Ar that he wouldn’t want her to break a promise, which is why he asked who she made the promise TO so he could ask them. Adds later he doesn’t want anyone to break a promise. Moon adds she wants to know what Tal has to say. Tal makes another joke about lungs. Vyk says house is running rampant with secrets and that he’s just there to relax. Ar explains that it happened early one morning when she & Vyk were up early. They both saw it and promised not to tell… that she was wearing no makeup. Tal asks Moon about her eating disorder that she had told about earlier. Ar says she can’t keep a secret such as this. THAT is why she held Tals’ head under water. And that she doesn’t know why Vyk is fibbing about it. Roger is totally confused by now. (joking around) Vyk plays like he doesn’t understand where Ar is coming from, having had too many beers. Ar says she has proof, pics that Vyk was there. She BEGS Tal to tell the secret. Roger guesses that Vyk & Tal are an item. By now, Moon is intrigued. Ar thanks Moon, and begs Vyk to tell the secret as he also was in on it. [ed: she’s tortured at this point]. (more joking around) |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:47 pm  10/12 11:25 PM Bath Archive – end for this date (Synopsis to date, no quoting) Ar wonders where Tal went. Then says she feels bad that Tal is running from truth, along with Vyk. Roger asks Ar if she thinks HE would lie to her. Vyk says: tell me no secrets I’ll tell you no lies. He says he is confused. Then he goes into a spiel where Ar say Tali climb into the fountain and find the red rocket. Roger now more lost. Ar tells him she’d never think he lied. Tal jumps back in, says Vyk now told all. (Goes on about rocket) (unrelated jabber) Tal tries to drag Vyk out to be alone and says good night. Ar is still playing, joking about. Vyk is lost, so says he’s going to the Internet cam and to bed. Now, Rog is totally lost. Ar says she’s sad she ran them off, she just wanted the truth from both of them. She says (Yes this is a quote) “I don't think bending the rules of the game is fair for anyone in here. Not even certain contestants.” Ar now thinks she’ll get bashed by the Internet cam, as Vyk is so good at that. And that she now plans to tell the truth. Roger BEGS to know what is going on. Moon backs up Ar. Says that secrets are not good. She says she might turn in early. Roger says he will leave t alone as it is frustrating him. He’s hoping for an answer though. |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:02 pm  10/12 11:04 PM Bath Archive – (Synopsis to date, no quoting) Ar says she really wishes she could tell. She will leak info as Vyk won’t back her up and he’s the only one who knows, other than her. She so hoped he’d back her up, but now she knows who she can’t trust. She thanks Moon for backing her, and apologizes to Rog for not telling him. Rog then says he might find out the hard way who to, or not to, trust. Ar admits it sucks not knowing who to trust, and is sorry the issue is bugging him. She thought one of the others would tell, and says she hates knowing it herself. She says that she’s mean keeping it secret, but she wants everyone to know. She is sorry she upset Rog. Then she wants to check and see if Vyk wrote bad stuff about her, and is sure he did because she put him on the spot. They discuss moving to the LR. Roger says that all he can control in terms of truth is what he provides. He can’t control what others do, truth-wise. Asks her if she’ll be up a while. And admits it’s his choice to be upset. Vyk re-enters, says he has never written anything negative about Ar. And that she is welcome to check that out. About the secret, he tells her that, as he told her in private, she can share anything and everything she knows about anyone. He’s not there to play head games. He also says he’s not there to spread rumors about people. If Ar has a problem with that, she must deal with it. But not to drag him into it. He tells her that if she chooses to share things with others in there and if she has validation or two sides of the story, then go for it, but not to make him the “whipping boy”. That he’s been whipped enough by X. Ar says she’s sorry that he feels she’s spreading a rumor. She only wants what “TALI TOLD US HERSELF” [ed: emphasis hers] revealed. That it is a secret, not a rumor, unless Tal lied to play headgames. She reiterates that Tal herself told them, and what more verification is there? Then she adds that Vyk had clearly said in private that he would tell the truth, then he lied and made up a lame story and let Tal finish it [ed: about the rockets and the fountain]. Vyk says if she wants Tal to to reveal something, she (Ar) must deal with it. And not to call him a liar. That he is not a liar. Then he says that Ar chooses to believe whay she wishes, but leave him out of it. If she wants to share something about Tal, do it but leave him out. Ar says she’s sorry he feels the need not to tell the truth. And hopes that that is better wording. |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:31 pm  10/12 11:04 PM Living Room Archive – (takes up where the Tub one left off). (Synopsis to date, no quoting) Luke is in LR, getting buzzed. He wonders if he is in a private convo. Rog says no, and tells Ar that leaving it alone or not won’t make trust issues go away. He thinks he himself needs to be more observant from now on. AR agrees that it’s not private. Wants to talk about something fun. Then she segues back to being cautious about who you trust, and that she has gotten screwed because of that. Luke brings up Friday 13th. Ar talks about horror movies, Roger says he’s not superstitious. He adds that he’s sorry Ar got punished by someone on trust. Tells her he is true to his word, at least. Then wonders if it is him she’s not trusting? Luke jokes around. Ar tells Roj that she trusts him completely, and respects him. She’s frustrated by Vyk not backing her up because she DID trust him. She says that Optics and Ryder were two names she didn’t know from the boards, and they’re the ones who hurt her trust. |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:41 pm  10/12 12:22 AM Living Room Archive (Synopsis to date, no quoting) Ar says she trusts Rog & Moon. And Luke & Zeb, until they betray it. Rog talks small talk. Then says to Ar that he doesn’t know what they did to her, and that if she’s correct, he’s sorry. Adds that if she ever trusts him 100% she can tell him. Luke figures out something is happening. But goes on with small talk about spontaneity. And that he wants to bungee jump. Ar says she’d tell Rog to his FACE if she could, away from board. She adds that she thinks the night Tal wanted to talk to him in a chat [Ed: ??? I missed this!] that she had maybe wanted to tell him. It was later that night that she (Tal) told Ar and Vyk. (Ar and Rog laugh at Luke’s bungee jumping) Rog tells Ar he has respect for someone who can keep a secret. He would do same. Ar tells Luke that she is also spontaneous. (Discussion of hair color – AR had hers striped. Then discussion of chat Sat. morning.) Discussion of piercings, Ar has one. Luke says he knows someone with a pierced weenie. |
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