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Roger_Ramjet | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:17 pm  Moon--if I get my mind ot of the gutter, that means I have to drag the rest of me out as well! Sorry, too far in the gutter to try and get out now! lol |
Roger_Ramjet | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:20 pm  Vyk is writing his answer to my question (for T&D) Luke is either not here yet, or again fallen asleep. Not sure which! |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:20 pm  Lukey.... WAKE UP! |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:22 pm  who does he think he is... Eddie? |
Vykin | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:23 pm  First, know that our political system in canada is a bit different. How it began: I worked in finances for a neighboring school district for 9 years. When I left, people in my town felt I had something of value to contribute they urged me to run for schoolboard. I did (son was just about to enter kindergarten). 5 ppl were scheduled to run in my area. When I filed papers, they withdrew knowing I wud do good job. I got elected. Did an exceptional job. (not bragging) 3year term. (I was also 2nd youngest trustee to ever be elected). During this time I was asked to help in a provincial political campaign, for a left wing party. I assisted, became a card carrying member. By 1990, I was heavily involved at the local, regional, provincial level in school board, mainly dealing with contract negotiations w/CEOS, management, teachers, non-teachers etc. Also involved in of course kid related stuff. Provincially, we had a rightwing govt in power which fell apart because of scandal. Provincial election called, I was asked to manage a campaign for a local candidate, Idid so 200%. The only thing I told candidate is that, if he or the party crossed my own beliefs and principles I would drop my support. Our candidate received a landslide victory, largest #'s of votes in province. WE were happy. The prov. govt changed to left wing. The future looked bright. For the education system this meant finally opening doors of communication with prov. Minister of Education, Premier etc. Within six mths of the party in power, things changed. My own candidate unbeknownst to me had a heavy drinking problem, was useless. Life went on. My involvement in education increased, much travel to the coast for meetings, and at home. 1992, Federal election, I was asked to manage and be a political strategist for federal candidate, same left wing party. It was hell, the grassroots members provincially didn't come out to help, especially those of my local provincial cand. that I worked so hard to elect. There were dirty internal politics at play, that I did not like. AFter the federal candidate lost. I pulled away from those politics, handed in my party card, and went independent. Next provincial campaigne, local candidate knows he lost my faith in him. I worked with the Liberal candidate. Leftwing party was still popular, they got back in. During this time, havoc began within the Education system. WE were in major conflict with our leftwing govt. on many issues. A party who we as school trustees originally had faith in, made things ten times worse than the right wing govt in the 80s. Around hmm 94-95 leftwing govt needed something to use as a sacrificial lamb. On literally a comment by another party member, they panicked and decided to amalgamate school districts. Without any consultation process whatsoever. WE were livid. Demanded a process. Govt gave in. During this time I was the Chair of the Board in our district. First the govt took away local autonomy of school boards to negotiate union contracts. This created enormous conflict amongst schoolboards and govt. Trust was gone. Then the amalgamation. So we worked literally nite and day to propose options for govt. They smiled said thanx we will consider. In the end, they amalgamated districts strictly based on political expediency. In other words. They left the larger metropolitan centers in tact and amalgamated districts outside of the lower mainland selectively. Ours was one such district. (our MLA member of the legislative assembly and govt in power) used to be a former school trustee. He was a total pansy, he sold out our school district. It was bitter upon bitter. And he sold out our district to the worst neighboring school district in the province, which was $10million dollars in debt. Unfortunately the Government ORder was passed before (conveniently so), we had received a Freedom of Information of Privacy ACt, report, which proved the govt had acted selectively and without any basis. This was the beginning of the end for the left wing govt, the next provincial election scheduled for the spring, they won't get back in. The Premier (like ur governor) of our province has just been charged with criminal charges for fraud regarding a casino scandal. Okay sorry this is so long, Now then Roger, why haven't I run. When I first ran for school board, I vowed not run run more than 3 terms (9years). I strongly believe, that 9 years is long enough to do what one has to do, then its important to step aside and let new and fresh ideas in. So in 97 I did not run again for the now "amalgamated district", though I was under heavy pressure to do so. My view of provincial and federal politics? Not at this time, I am disillusioned, though federal election was called today, and I will support the Liberals. (the canadian govt party). AS for municipal elections i.e. mayor, council etc. I live just outside the city limits, so I can run for anything there. And finally, after 10 years of heavy involvement (long stories and this one is long enough) I put so much of myself into it, that eventually you feel burn out. Lots of travel, lots of meetings, lots of decisions to be made, lots of media interviews etc. I needed to make sure that as my son approached high school his critical years, that I would be more available. (I still however do get called for advice, opinion on issues and actually some speech writing) Now roger, I BET YOU'RE SORRY YOU ASKED! |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:23 pm  okay Vy is writing a tome! |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:23 pm  OMG he did |
Himay10ns | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:26 pm  Ok you two....here's a couple while we wait for the other guys... 1. If you squeeze my tube, I spurt. 2. I'm the first thing you put in your mouth in the morning. 3. I'm usually spit, not swallowed. What am I? 1. I stick carrots in my hole. 2. I'm always jumping from hole to hole. 3. People have a fetish for my feet. What am I? |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:27 pm  Wow, that was great... now will you come help Gore please! |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:28 pm  Okay Vy your turn |
Vykin | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:30 pm  'I live just outside the city limits, so I can run for anything there.' sorry I mean can't not can. Again apologies for length, i promise i won't do next question that long. by the way, addition, I also saw the discussion in education turn away from kids and their needs to mainly having to deal with employees and their contracts. While salaries increased, books and needs for children were decreased. |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:31 pm  tooth paste |
Roger_Ramjet | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:31 pm  Vyk--no, I'm VERY glad I asked!!! It says a lot about you, and I asked because I wanted to learn more about the person you are. Your answer allowed that to happen. That is my intent with every question I ask--I just take different routes with different people. thank you!!!!! ok, who's next? |
Vykin | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:31 pm  Okay sorry sorry sorry again. let me see okay Himays Truth or Dare? |
Luke | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:32 pm  Hello everyone! How's everything? Ugh... what an evening... I'm so glad I'm here... I'll play along, but I'll be simultaneously venting somewhere else in this house... We're on truth or dare, right? |
Roger_Ramjet | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:32 pm  rabbit |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:32 pm  don't apologize ... that was great Vy... I learned so much about you and your other passions Prez... Don't make me like you more! |
Himay10ns | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:33 pm  I'll take Truth! Hit me with it.... |
Roger_Ramjet | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:34 pm  Vyk--you're going to owe me big time if you get to date Moon!!!!! I can keep the questions going on that! |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:34 pm  Now it is Vys turn to ask someone a ? HI LUKEY! |
Vykin | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:34 pm  (I'm still a political animal, though i prefer being an observer) Is HiMays here? Or should I ask someone else? |
Himay10ns | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:36 pm  Moon and Roger, you were both right. I'll have to pick some harder ones next time! Hi Luke, Vyk is getting ready to ask me a Truth question.... |
Vykin | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:36 pm  HiMays you live in Little Rock, have you ever seen Paula Jones, and whats your opinion of Clinton? |
Moondance | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:36 pm  Vy is taken Roger Rabbit! Quit teasing |
Luke | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:36 pm  shoot Vyk... give her the best you've got! (hehehe... j/k May!) |
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