My Final 2 cents
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My Final 2 cents
Norwican | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 09:56 am  I see your point Zelda. I personally don't feel any of you need to defend yourselves any more. IMHO, the five of you that remained towards the end especially ...all played incredibly well. I am truly saddened that there are residual hurt feelings... you all were great in there! I don't have any answers for you Zelda, because I cannot speak for Optics.. I do not know if you will get your apology... but I still do wish peace for all of you  |
Zelda | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 09:58 am  Thanks Norc! |
Nikkid | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:01 am  Zelda - don't leave, just go to the "nice" theads or other parts of the board. I haven't responded to any of the threads that get my ire up, or I only have something rotten to say. I've posted to some of the controversial ones, but only if I have a view point, and it's not just a "I'm pissed off rant". The mystery guests thread is fun, I guess the challange one is fun too - but I suck at riddles. LOL, besides, we were all at a semblance of peace before this latest happened. It will happen again (proof? guru has friends now).
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Misslibra | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:09 am  Can I get a AMEN to Guruchaz post ?? Guruchaz if no one else will give you a Amen I will ... AMEN my friend !! Hey by the way do you have some drugs I can borrow ? I need help with the sedation part.  |
Digilady | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:12 am  Zelda: Nope! I know where you're at, girlfriend. I, in fact, was backing you and Adven. Trying to, anyway. I'm so d*mn exhausted from this horsey bootcamp... LOL! In fact, another of your posts: --- Don't bring me into your mess...I have come clean, taken responsibility, made an apology and can sleep at night. You have chosen to do things in theatrics to fog over the truth. All we wanted was your explanation and an apology. --- Is absolutely perfect. This is what Optics has done to yourself, to Adven, and to anyone else who doesn't toe the Vykin line. Gawwd hep em, in fact. Norw: I'm another one who knows nobody here. I do happen to be in a place where I know a few things, though. All is not what it seems. In fact, it's a quagmire of deceit. And threats. Do you see, that's where problems happen. I could care less about all else: this is wonderful entertainment! But, and i mean BUT. When someone gets threatened on the phone, that's where the buck needs to stop. Matters have gone too far. We need to kill this d*mn discussion, if we can. We need to be in soothing mode. B1tches, b*stards and pr1cks, help me here. One of ours is having problems from this. RL. Nikkid, Anna, Nos - take over, try to smooth this out. D*MMIT I would be away right now! Lance - you have a calm head, too. Let's put this to rest. Leave old Optics alone. Karma. What goes around... But for now, peace. CEO-CB |
Karuuna | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:14 am  zelda -- I truly hope you won't leave. I would miss you and your gentle, insightful and caring ways greatly. I really liked your idea of setting up an area in the members room -- kind of a virtual house. WE could have a living room for chatting, a hot tub for goofing off, maybe even a discussion area for more controversial topics. Perhaps we could even have a gaming area, where we could move SpamJam, if Spammie and the others were okay with that. I don't know what the protocol would be for that, and how it would need to get set up, but I think if you and I some of the others would promise to support it and frequent it, maybe we could get Neil and Lisa to set it up? What do you think? |
Digilady | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:22 am  Zelda ain't going nowhere. I'm learning how to rope this week: Moon, I'm up for practice! Zelda, you have comported yourself bravely and with honour. We need MORE like you, for gawwdsakes, not less. Kar: Great idea!! I could sure use the hot tub right about now. |
Misslibra | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:24 am  Zelda, where are you going ?? I hope that you stay. Maybe if we all have a group meeting in chat, with all the players of the game, Optics you to, and really express how we feel face to face, without personal attacks, and in a mature adult way, maybe we could mend this whole thing. You think ?? |
Twiggyish | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:24 am  I second Karuuna's post to you Zelda! |
Spamgirl | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:25 am  Zelda - don't leave! Ignore these idiots and stick the puzzle thread
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Norwican | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:28 am  Digilady, I was not aware of any threatening phone calls made by anyone (must have been offline that day) I am passionately opposed to anything like that. I really don't know what you are referring to though. Karuuna, I'd be up for that! |
Thoughtpolice | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:29 am  I third Karuuna's post Zelda. My last post for this afternoon - for a lurker I posted way too much today. It's a beautiful day in Massachusetts - won't be many more like this. I'm going out to take a walk. |
Guruchaz | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:30 am  More challenges and truth or dare!! |
Luke | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:32 am  Just reading through all these posts without commenting for the moment...  |
Digilady | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:50 am  Norw: No one is aware. Thanks for picking up on it. It HAS happened, and recently as well. That is why I reiterate, this has gone too far. Luke: I'm so mad I'm out of town! As one of my fav BGs, I'd love to get in chat with you!! |
Affinity | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 11:03 am  Thoughtpolice, it IS a beautiful day in Mass. the whole weekend is forecasted to be beautiful, all this after the snow and horrible cold btw i live just outside of Boston |
Sbw | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 11:19 am  Hmm....When I posted my last novel I also went to the Vykin Revealed thread and picked up her email address and sent her an email and asked her to read my post. She did and has answered my question to me by email. DUH.... I feel stooooopid. She reminded me that not only did Host give percentages but that she also gave the total number of votes before she started. (I am now scraping that egg off my face.) I also emailed her and asked for her permission to apologize here, obviously I received that too. ****Optics, I am sorry I accused you of cheating like this. Obviously I made a big mistake.**** I am ONE person. I have my point of view. With the facts I can see.... Optics played the game well as Vykin. She made mistakes like others. But ALL the board guests were entertaining. I appreciate the time and energy all 10 put into The Game. I know this is not a popular opinion and I know there are things I don't know... but I also know there are two sides to every story. But I don't want to detract from the main purpose of this post... to aplogize to Vykin for my accusation that she "cheated" from information I have. |
Lafatme | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 12:00 pm  i find it interesting that people have enough respect for optics to ask for her permission before posting her PRIVATE emails. her post mentioned asking for, and giving permission. seems this courtesy was not in her repetoire when she chose to post my email to arreal. do you think i'll get an apology? (yeah, when hell freezes over). she has also posted, many times, that her outside communication was before neil clarified it-mine was too, she never pointed that out. why? because hers are to be excused but arreals were a capital offense. isn't it also interesting that max thinks we should stop all these juvenile posts but only after he gets to post one of his own. everyone else, we put our time and hearts into the game. many of us would like to know the truth as to what we saw. we need it for closure, and we deserve it. the results don't matter, the cheating doesn't matter, gender doesn't matter, the burner doesn't matter. all i, and others, want now is TRUTH. i've given up on ever getting an apology from optics, she doesn't have the capacity to say "i'm sorry" unless she's telling us she's sorry for what WE DID TO HER! arrogance!!! zelda, please don't leave. we love you. why? you're kind and nice and add a heart to the board that it sorely needs. optics, don't go away mad, JUST GO AWAY! take your sorry, arrogant, self-serving, paranoid, ass somewhere else. |
Sbw | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 12:11 pm  Laf: I stand by my decision to ask for permission. I hope I will ALWAYS afford EVERYONE that courtesy. |
Lafatme | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 12:29 pm  sbw, i commend you for your courtesy.my comment was that some people expect to be treated with courtesy but don't feel required to extend it to others. to be courteous, i won't name that person. (LOL) |
Sbw | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 12:47 pm  Laf: Optic didn't ask/demand for the courtesy. I extended it. |
Wcv63 | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 01:03 pm  I'd like to give my two cents but I can't scrape together enough money. |
Sbw | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 01:09 pm  WCV... maybe you could pawn that prize you are going to win the challenge thread and scrape the cents together! I can't loan you any of my sense, because I don't have enough to go around. |
Wcv63 | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 04:28 pm  LOL Sbw....that's how I feel sometimes! |
Norequerdo | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 06:02 pm  Since the board is being shut down I thought I would offer my final thoughts on this whole experience. I have spent the last two days giving serious reflection to the game and my participation in it. I enjoyed quite a bit of it but more disturbingly, I got sucked into it to the extent that I lost sight of the fact that it was only game. I said things that I regret more than you can imagine. It was not characteristic of the person that I hope that I am and if I hurt feelings I apologize. I have extended my apologies to the Host and others whose email addresses I was able to obtain for my part in the ugliness that developed. They worked very hard to give us an enjoyable time and they did it selfelssly. I feel I disrespected them in their efforts by some of my behavior and I regret that. |
Wink | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 06:20 pm  Nor I think we all need to take responsibilty for "the ugliness that developed". I commend you on putting yourself out there and hope your apology is accepted by all. I'm sure many of us said things that we would never dream of saying in a face to face conversation . Hopefully we have all learned a new perspective on the harm the written word can sometimes generate. |
Soeur | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 06:21 pm  That is the most beautifully worded and sincere apology yet to be written. You must be a pretty decent individual to have the capacity to open yourself and speak with such simple nobility. My sense is that a lot of people really did feel challenged by your presence on the boards and will be sad to see you go. Maybe you should stick around for whatever comes next...  |
Azriel1104 | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 06:42 pm  Nor, I admire you for sincerely apologizing. I don't really know that you did anything wrong other than denying that you knew anyone playing in The Game. It's refreshing to see that you realize that people other than your friend were hurt and that you have the courage to acknowledge it. I could tell that you were just as caught up in The Game as some of the rest of us. I don't think that was entirely a bad thing. I had alot of fun disagreeing with you. I do hope that you reconsider and keep posting on the other side. |
Adven39 | Friday, November 03, 2000 - 06:55 pm  Under the circumstances, Nor, I may not be the best person to extend this invitation, but I think it would be a healthy thing for everyone if you were to stay and contribute. Despite poking fun at you on occasion, I did admire your willingness to stand your ground. As you've probably noticed from the posts of the last two days, nobody feels good about what has taken place on either side. I think you could play an important role in putting this behind us. I hope you'll consider it. |
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