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Misslibra | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:25 pm  Ocean, we need another news story, in light of the developing situtations going on with (The Game). I think some interesting things have been going on within the last 48 hours. Well actually since Mantastic left the game. It started then I think, and should be reported ! Would you please give us one ? Your such a good reporter ! |
Vasix | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:25 pm  lafatme kearie/arreal will spend the rest of her life talking about her multiples if that's what gets her attention. If she's a doll, fine. But just because she is mentally ill doesn't mean that she can't also be a drama queen and a manipulator of sympathy. You see, mental illness doesn't mean that there is no room for anything else. She can still have good behaviors and bad behaviors. As for saying us "late arrivals" don't have any idea of what we are talking about, thats just nonsensical. Sorry we crashed you teaparty, when Arreal/Kearie is out here she can join your table and you can know all the answers us Johnny Come Latelies can only hope to know. I do applaud kearie/arreal on her apology. It was very well said. |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:28 pm  Can't write a story till you know the end. |
Kpritch | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:32 pm  Laf, there you go again! Fine we don't know ArReal from the time that you do, however, we can say the same about you not knowing Vykin. All of us \clipart{viking} fans have been reading the game since day one. So, yes, we don't know ArReal from before, but we are going by what we've read since this game has started. Fair enough? |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:35 pm  Hell I dont know either of them. I will say this much though after today, Vykin has got my sympathies so I feel like I want to stand up for him. I also liked his posts when I first came on the boards. |
Misslibra | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:38 pm  Ahhhhh Ocean, just say nope I don't feel like it. Boy, you sure do treat me bad ! |
Streetjaie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:44 pm  I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU VASIX AND NOREQURERDO!!! You all say ( you others) that you know poor arreal, she is too sweet to do a thing like that. Boo hoo hoo. Well, we don't know anyone else from a hole in the wall!!! And as for us laties, we have been around since the beginning. I don't think the game started five years ago. So don't tell me I'm uninformed. |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:56 pm  But I DO feel like it! You can't get a take until it's over, trust me. |
Misslibra | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:03 pm  Ok Ocean, I saw your thread on coming in the chatroom, the private one right ? My brain can't remember how to get there ... somebody help !! |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:39 pm  vykin fans: i apologized for misreading vykin on another thread. keep in mind, in spite of my apology, that i never "bashed" vykin, or any of you. that is, until you began bashing arreal. i asked questions that i had about vyk. i didn't make psychological evaluations of him from his posts to a board. seems more than one of you have mentioned your experience with mental health issues. then i hold you to an even higher standard on this matter. if you have experience you should be well aware of how insensitive it really is for you to talk this way about someone you don't know. i think you all owe arreal an apology too. i made mine, neil made his, are you stand-up enough to admit your own postings were out-of-line? |
Norequerdo | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 06:59 am  I don't feel I need to make an apology. I still stand by my statement that I was not bashing. I believe that I said from my perspective that the player seemed to be making a play for sympathy. Did I make any jokes about her illness, no. I just don't see her illness as an excuse. Her illness is her reality. Even a perfectly healthy person can make a play for sympathy. For me, I am making observations of what I think about the players. I think Xenia is too vicious. But i have also changed my opinions on various people over the past week. Early in the week I didnt like Zeb. I grew to change my opinion on Zeb and kind of like his posts. I liked Vykin from the start after reading the post on sexual experience and though Vykin was pretty funny. I do admit that I seemed very pro Vykin through the recent turn of events because it just seemed very strange this whole focus on who is Vykin and it seemed that paranoia was running amok inside the house. Right now the only two players that I see as being above the whole fray is Roger and Luke. They seem to have managed to keep their integrity. Maybe I come accross too harshly but I that is probably out of defensiveness. I have felt that Ocean at times was attacking me personally for expressing my views. I have enjoyed Ocean's posts and it bothers me that I can't be critical of a particular player without someone attacking me and calling me a basher. I apologize if I have offended you but I don't think I attacked you. You know it is all one blur and if I did let my fingers get ahead of my logic. I do apologize. I cannot say that I will refrain from posting questions about Arreal or any player's sincerity. My view is the whole issue is over and lets get on with the game. Good Luck to All. |
Guruchaz | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 07:13 am  Everyone's bitching and moaning is ruining this game...inside and out. No wonder Neil doesn't want to do a second one. Do I have to be the only one to set a good example? Jeesh! |
Norequerdo | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 07:15 am  Guru, you are the only voice of reason. LOL |
Vasix | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 08:29 am  LAFATME: sorry, troll for aplogogies for Arreal somewhere else. She joned the game she gets the flack. If you want to go around protecting the "injured and agrieved" you've found a good person to do that with in Arreal. People like you are perfet targets for people that need constant support and have people constantly soothing them and "making it all right". By the way, do some investigation in psychology and you will find a few interesting facts: true multiples are rare and far between. And therapy to "recover" lost memories has been discredited as harmful and not of therapeutic value. Good luck in your endeavors to always be there for Arreal, you have a life long job cut out for you. Keep your eyes wide open and keep leading with the heart but let the brain have a vote as well as the heart. I know you think I'm cynical and jaded but take a look at things critically. My guess is EVERTYONE that comes in contact with your friend starts hearing her stories of her multiples within days of meeting her. She is all about it. It gives her power and mystique and yes: a constant reliable source of sympathy. Read her posts about how she was "unfairly fired". She admits that she has uncontrollable, unstoppable flights of alters yet she puts herself in a job where others depend on her. And then she chafes at supervision when its attention that she wants to begin with. After awhile you will see a repeating cycle of re-enforcement of the status quo. Sometimes the need to change is overcome by the need to keep the problem becuase it is her identity. I'm not saying that is the case here, but since you are so cocksure of your view of things, I'm just suggesting you crack open a window and let some fresh air in. Read up on co-dependency and examine your needs to be "the protector". Its all a discovery and the only time it stops is when you think you've looked under every rock.<-------------And Ill leave that juicy opening for any of the snarky posters out there! |
Wcv63 | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 09:57 am  This whole thread is like an explosive that if jiggled the wrong way will explode. I'm not touching it! |
Vasix | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 10:26 am  WCV63 LOL! Yes, anytime the word "jiggle" is used, its a dicey area! Thanks for the smile. |
Lafatme | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 12:41 pm  nor, moon has been pretty honest and above it all too. vas, i think you misunderstand something. one thing i'm not good at is sympathy. in real life people don't come to me for a shoulder to cry on-they'd be disappointed because i'd probably tell them to "get over it" i have NEVER posted that arreal deserved any sympathy for her mental condition, never even mentioned it. second, arreal is not my friend. no one on this board is my friend. i have real friends who are not a drain on me. i "met" arreal about 2 days before the game started and thought she was funny, she brought a smile to my face. i knew nothing about her problems until all of you did. my point is this..she has a good sense of humor and she's fun to watch. i think this entire fiasco has weighed heavily on her since gails secret was revealed to her.i believe it caused her much stress, unfairly. gail made all the decisions which led to this happening and host told arreal she could tell the other BGs. the attacks on arreal seem like shooting the messenger for the message. it's not right. my support for arreal is not BECAUSE of her problem, but IN SPITE of it. take arreals problems out of the equation completely. was it right that gail told her a secret that affected the entire game? did arreal ask host for direction as how to proceed before spilling the beans? was she given permission to tell? is she now being blamed for seeking sympathy by gail? didn't she just tell the truth? shouldn't she be praised for her honesty? i continue to support arreal because she's been honest and is playing fairly. she hasn't attacked anyone and she's interacted with everyone. someone above mentioned her words that it was her fault, when she apologized to vyk, as proof that it was. then also accept her words that she doesn't want your sympathy, which she has also said many times. don't judge her either way based on mental problems, judge her based on how she plays the game-she HAS been honest. |
Sara | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 01:16 pm  so, like, here's what I think: Some of us on the board accept the posters and game players at face value. We don't examine every little nuance of every single post. We look at the big picture and accept the folks as they are. Sometimes we like 'em and sometimes we don't. But, the point is, we just accept 'em as they are. Then there are others who think it's necessary to pick apart every single post, every single thing about the post, the poster, the subject of the post, and how the poster was directly speaking to them, even if the poster wasn't speaking to anyone in particular. It is possible to have a good, spirited discussion without making personal attacks on other people, being judgemental and being rude. I wish you second group folks would figure that out. 'nuf said. |
Katie | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 04:33 pm  I agree Sara! |
Sara | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 04:53 pm  katie, of course 3 hours after I posted that, I proceeded to blast someone on the other thread. Funny thing is, though, that's who I was talking about when I was talking about the group 2 folks. LOL |
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