Archive through November 02, 2000
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Archive through November 02, 2000
Adven39 | Wednesday, November 01, 2000 - 10:17 pm  No problem, Z. Me, too. |
Katie | Wednesday, November 01, 2000 - 10:20 pm  I am getting tired of running back and forth between the court room and the hot tub trying to find all of you. pant pant pant lol Thanks Zelda, you are a sweetie. |
Digilady | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 12:44 am  Well, sunnovab1tch! A woman won after all! <snark> |
Lafatme | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 01:35 am  sorry to keep this up but how did vyk keep up with the voting polls? they were in the member area. was this , perhaps, a slip on her part? did you guys read her posts? man she thinks a lot of herself. does she even OWN a mirror? |
Notbored | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 04:32 am  Vykin won. Vykin participated in the game. Vykin deserves the cd burner. If host truly called Vykin a cancer then host should be ashamed. The last two votes were by e-mail...so there could be no cheating. Moon was voted out...Vykin was voted as the winner. I can't believe how often people take any little rumor and make it into some big conspiracy. Actually, I hadn't voted the time that the numbers were run up so high. I ended up sending in an e-mail and voting for Moon to be banished because of the way her "fans" acted. Jana even said that she e-mailed Moon and told her that she was going to be banished and gave Moon her password so she could read the boards. But of course, that is okay, because it was "Zelda" and Jana. But, God forbid if Vykin had IMs and e-mail from anyone. IMs and e-mails wouldn't have changed the outcome of this game at all. I didn't vote for Vykin to win, voted HiMays, but I didn't feel cheated because Vykin did win. Who cares if Vykin is female? I didn't see any affirmative action notice on the applications. And if host didn't specify that applicants must state their gender then host made a mistake. I'm sure that IF host runs another game that will be changed. Actually, if host does decide to have another game I truly believe she should only allow the few posters who are constantly here to enter. Anyone who hasn't been on this board and participated enough, by e-mailing host, posting to every thread and running down anyone in the game who hasn't been their "friend" in the regular boards will be vilified. Most of the posters here remind me of Sue from Survivor. A bunch of sore losers. WAY TO GO VYKIN!!!!! |
Affinity | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 04:56 am  Hey adven, i owe you an apology for doubting you at the start of this thread. You were right Notbored, very well said |
Twiggyish | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 05:15 am  Muzzy, we were deceived. To me, this whole game was unfairly influenced. Throughout Vykin's postings in the game, she led us to believe a male was posting. Also, the friends who were making negative posts about the other BG's in the game were influencing others. (Note posts made about Roger and Kearie during the game) Their whole objective was to sway votes towards Vykin. My friends would have identified themselves as such and not sneakily try to maneuver others. I also thank Adven for his post, as it opened my eyes! |
Adven39 | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 05:45 am  Thanks, Aff and Twig. No need to apologize. I would have doubted it myself. |
Sbw | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 06:57 am  Lafatme: That is what I would like to know. Maybe I am reading something into it more than was there. But I didn't realize numbers had ever been released, I thought it was percentages. How did she find out the numbers? Personally I don't care if she is male/female but I know some people feel differently and I do respect those feelings. Adven: I never doubted you, I just couldn't figure out what purpose it would serve. I guess I now know at least part of it. |
Mishamisha | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 07:17 am  This is a game, right? The rules never stated you had to reveal your gender, did they? As a matter of fact, I went back and re-read several apps, and see that several people didn't specifically mention theirs. This was for entertainment purposes, and as long as the rules weren't broken (I don't know enuf about the IM thing, so I won't address THAT here) I don't see Vky being a woman as a problem. I'm damn proud a woman won! Dear God, I found myself agreeing with some of Muzzy's post above...does anyone have a thermometer? I feel woozy. |
Adven39 | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 07:47 am  Sbw and Mish, there is a lot more to this than just an issue of gender. There were issues of integrity, manipulation and personal attack. For me, I'd like to put this sorry mess behind us and reclaim some of our innocence. |
Katie | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 09:08 am  Actually I do think gender matters. The host said 5 female and 5 male. Host thought the Vyk was male and so listed Vyk under the males. This prevented a fifth male from playing. This might have been Affinity or Ocean Islands. That was the time that Vyk should have cleared it up but didn't. Why? Because she thought that if she told the truth she wouldn't get to play because there were already 5 females and so a 6th one wasn't needed. By doing this she entered the game on false pretenses and prevented another name from taking his rightful place in the game. This was not good game playing but deceit and lying non of which belongs in this game. The honorable thing to have done would have been to have corrected the error at the beginning. If she had the host could had the option of replacing her with Ocean or Affinity or could have had her as the 6th female and adding both Affinity and Ocean and having 6 of each gender in the game. |
Sbw | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 09:34 am  Katie - Don't overlook the fact that if Host had stuck with 5 females only, Vyk may still have been in the game and one of the other females might not have been included. (Just food for thought.) Katie the gender part was an honest mistake by the Host. You don't know what Host would have done when it was discovered Vyk was a female. The Host probably doesn't either. That part was a simple mistake. |
Katie | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 09:37 am  on host part yes but not Vyks when it came to telling the truth |
Digilady | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 09:59 am  Adven: Reclaim our innocence? When were we (moi) EVER inncocent? Too many years ago! LOL Ya done good, ya. You're right, time this was buried. On to the next scandal! |
Muzzy | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 11:17 am  All who feel decieved---what does "anything goes mean to you?" In a game that states anything goes. anything and everything did and what is the biggest laff in whole game, not the mole stuff, not the cheaters accusing cheaters, but the best darn player winning and also pulling off the biggest Spoof. IT IS OVER-VYKIN WINS-LET'S NOT HAVE SORE LOSERS. AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GAME!! |
Katie | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 11:25 am  I guess honestly doesn't count then. I have been reading the fan pages. Anyone notice that people who are friends of Vyk and knew that Vyk was female, helped along the deception by posting ideas of Vyk being a stud, manly and such in her fanmail posts? I would never have been involved with the game if I had known cheating and telling lies was allowed. I assumed that playing the game meant always telling the truth. I know some other believed that too. I don't think the host meant lying and cheating was ok. |
Adven39 | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 11:29 am  Muzzy, I have heard the "Anything Goes" excuse used repeatedly on the board for justifying all kinds of dubious behaviour. If Admin had used the header, "Paint Your Butt Orange And Squawk Like A Chicken", would you do it? Actually, in your case, don't answer that. |
Noslonna | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 11:55 am   |
Adven39 | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 12:13 pm  Nos. What on earth are you doing? |
Wcv63 | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 12:22 pm  Looks to me like Nos is having some kind of physical distress in every thread. Maybe it is related to withdrawal from The Game. I have been laughing myself silly everytime I see it! |
Affinity | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 12:57 pm  Look at that face, its the face of constipation! |
Lafatme | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 01:01 pm  my issue with optics has nothing to do with gender, cheating, or voting. for alli care SHE could have voted, that's not the point. please listen: she came here, afraid of not being accepted, yet she NEVER accepted us. she brought her FRIENDS here, instead of trying to make new friends. muzzy said the gender thing was just a JOKE, muzzy doesn't understand that the JOKE WAS ON US! we were not insiders on this inside joke-she came to OUR HOUSE to make US the OUTSIDERS, and her "friends" the insiders. optics never respected the title of "member"in her recent case she talked of moon's "friends" but she never took responsibility for treating the TVCH members as "enemies" her friends came from elsewhere and they are the only ones she felt any obligation to. finally, right up until she left, she placed all blame for the situation on others. arreal, moon,tali, neil & lisa, voting fraud, and all of us out here. some of us knew SOMETHING was wrong, we speculated about it and tried to put our fingers on it. many times we had it wrong. we were bashed and ridiculed for trying to bring up the question of "who is vyk"? we were accused of sour grapes because our favorite didn't win. we were accused af "attacking" vyk just because our instincts told us SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT. one of the main resons kearie quit is because she, too, KNEW something was wrong. vyk convinced her it was her fault, it wasn't. and she has taken far too much abuse for trying to call it to our attention early on. she didn't know the truth, but she recognized there were lies. no, i could care less about the cd burner, she can keep it, if it's up to me. maybe one day she might look at it and feel some tiny twinge of guilt for treating people as she did to get it. SHE CAME TO OUR HOUSE AND DISRESPECTED IT, AND IT'S MEMBERS! we never received an apology, instead we were blamed for it. that is the ONLY thing i have an issue with. thank you all for listening. |
Zelda | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 01:12 pm  Thank you Laf! The points I have been trying to make myself... It has nothing to do with gender, voting, cheating ... it is the fact she was an outsider and kept herself an outsider from day one along with her supporters. |
Norwican | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 01:20 pm  I resent that Zelda. Are you telling me that I am an outsider and am not allowed to be a part of this board? I did support Vykin in the "Game" but do not feel that I mistreated anyone at all. I did come to this site hoping to make new friends... but apparently some of you are going to make that difficult for me. |
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