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Moondance | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:24 pm  I know... I feel very bad about it I wish she would have said something sooner ... I was clueless and I am so sorry for that |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:27 pm  (((Moon))) Try not to feel too bad, like you said, you were clueless and this place didn't provide privacy for you two to talk it through. |
Luke | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:28 pm  hehehe... I know... I won't suggest too many things... Something tells me they've got a lot planned for us anyways.... Hey Arreal--I had a dream about you last night--well actually about your name... (for those of you who read my other post, this was ANOTHER dream-- I had 2 dreams last night) I didn't see you, but I did see your name in big block letters-- AR REAL!!! Kind of one of those surreal dreams when you're walking around big block letters and they seem to be floating... Strange... just strange... |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:29 pm  If a person doesn't have gay-dars do they have stra-dars? |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:32 pm  Uh-oh!!---please, no dream interpretations on that one. Thanks I had a dream lst night also...lol...that I was trpped in the BB house and couldn't get out. Scary.  |
Luke | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:36 pm  You know, Arreal, I'm not so sure about the straight-dars.... You see, it's socially acceptable to assume that a person is straight. If I were to approach another man, and if he has a wedding ring on, or a picture of a woman and children are on his desk, it's okay for me to assume that he's straight, and that he's most likely married to a woman. Now, if I were to go up to a man, and if he were wearing a wedding ring, and I were to approach him, he most likely would be offended if I were to assume that he's gay and married to another man. What I mean to say by this is that I do believe (to a certain extent) in the existence of a type of gay-dar and not necessarily a straight-dar. Out of necessity, gay men and lesbian women can develop a sort of "sense" of whether another person is gay or straight. |
Moondance | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:36 pm  OMG... My dream last night ... Arreal you & I were helping Himay sneak out of the BB compound ... I have no idea where she was going but we coaching her... "now when you come back, knock on the wall and we will catch you" LOL I had a dream about Roger, Luke & Talisker the night before last but i couldn't remember it! |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:41 pm  How funny Moon. lol Luke a question for you...(I was joking about the stra-dar) Why does it occur then, that some gar-dars are wrong. With no ring, why do some assume that people are gay. (I've been hit on by ex-co-workers) Just curious as to what the gay-dar sees or senses? |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:44 pm  I think we ought to make up limericks about each other in here. hehehe I think that would be fun and a challenge. How was class today Moon? |
Luke | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:44 pm  Well, I never said it was 100% fool proof. I've had the experience actually of simply admiring a man seated on the other side of a restaurant and commenting to my friends "Now there can't be a more perfect example of a good-looking, but TOTALLY STRAIGHT guy..." Now, I think very highly of my gaydar abilities, so you could just imagine how floored I was when he came up to me and gave me his phone number!!!! |
Luke | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:47 pm  Also, effeminacy has proven to be a very weak judge of a man's sexual orientation. Just as there are very "butch" gay men, there are also numerous "femme" straight men. I guess my gaydar picks up on a lot of different things--how a man interacts with another man, how he interacts with another woman, his clothes, his hygiene, his hair, his vocabulary, different mannerisms... but I gotta repeat, it's not 100% fool-proof. But for me... mmmm.... I'd give myself at least a 90% certainty... |
Moondance | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:48 pm  I didn't have one today ... I worked from 5:30-12:30 |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:48 pm  I bet...lol Lucky you huh? I just am curious as to why some straight people seem to be 'hit on' more frequently than others by gays? |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:50 pm  It really does suck for women that such a high percentage of gay men are....DAMN FINE!!!!
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Moondance | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:50 pm  I think you are right Luke...sometimes hard to tell... I think you have just good intuition! |
Luke | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:52 pm  Oh yes!!! You're right about that... I have some friends who are girls who love coming up to San Francisco with me just for the eye-candy! The question I keep on asking myself is that with all the fine gay men out there, why is it that almost all of the gay men I know (myself included) have had the unfortunate experience of falling for a totally straight guy--and consequently getting our hearts broken... (if not beat up)! Oh--I experienced the former, not the latter... |
Moondance | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:55 pm  Because you are truly not ready for a relationship...maybe I believe we bring into our lives what we are ready for... What do you guys think? |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 02:56 pm  I wonder if I have to limit those 'physical attributes' of my ideal man to just 3? hmmm. hehehe I best not get myself going, I'm a married woman. |
Luke | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:02 pm  I was thinking the same thing, Arreal! hehehe Moon... there's a lot of truth in your statement. Not to get too philosophical, but in my profile under my real name on AOL, where it asks for a personal quote, I put "Nemo dat quod non habet..." a phrase by Aristotle (but translated into Latin) meaning "You can't give what you don't have" That was something I learned in college... not just what the words meant in English, but what it also meant in my own life... (needless to say that falling-for-a-straight-guy experience was during my college years... ha!) |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:02 pm  I think a lot of things come into our lives that we are not ready for. Many things in life our out of our control, how we deal with those things is in our control. Like in relationships, I've been ready for one and gotten envolved with a man who turned out to be all wrong for me. Like keeping a verbal abusive side hidden for a while. I was not, nor will I ever be ready for that. I may not be following your question completely Moon. |
Vykin | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:03 pm  Hi arreal, luke, moon, did I come in the middle of something? Moon did something happen to your with another housemate? Sorry, I've been distracted with building my Website, man didn't realize how much work it takes! I'm gonna grab a glass of wine and join the conversation if you don't mind. |
Luke | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:06 pm  Hey Vykin--can you get me a glass of wine too? I could sure use one right now! |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:08 pm  Hi Vyk, how's it going? |
Moondance | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:12 pm  I think we are attracted to the non - committable types when we are not ready for that committable relationship This doesn't all entail what life's lessons have for us This is not to blame a person for bringing in that person or people because I feel there is a reason ... a lesson etc..... What Luke quoted "You can't give what you don't have" ... pretty powerful.... If someone is abusive … it doesn't mean it is your fault ... it means yo have a choice to learn and get out of that abusive situation. He didn't just become abusive ... he always was... you happen not to see the signs. Please, I am not putting the blame on you it is just part of life... Most things are out of control except ... ourselves. There is a reason we have people I our life ... it is not a question of why me it is a question of why? sorry... am I downer? |
Arreal | Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 03:12 pm  Vyk, got a question for you? Why were you being so mean to Xenia yesterday? I didn't see anywhere that she could have deserved your attack yesterday. Was your anger towards her left over from the day before? Just would like to understand. Perhaps I am so lost, but I honestly didn't understand where she deserved either Man's wrath or yours. Am I missing something? |
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