What are Talisker's contributions to the game?

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Ocean_Islands

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 06:41 am Click here to edit this post
Why should she stay?

Teebird

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 07:21 am Click here to edit this post
Good question Ocean!!!

I have been lurking since all of the "stuff" came to a head Friday night!!! I have a couple of threads I would like to reply to but things seem a little out of hand on those, so will come here.

At this point I don't think Tali is contributing at all. She seems to be jumping in and out and not connecting with anyone. I have heard mention that ArReal wants to leave because she knows she was wrong. What do Tali's actions since everything has come out say for her?

Norequerdo

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 07:45 am Click here to edit this post
I think Tali should stay because it seems the players want her to stay. So why not just start over. The first vote won't matter much. After the first vote the players themselves can put forward who they think should be banished. We can find out what they really think.

I really only supported tali because it seemed like the people outside the game went more nuts about it than the players themselves.

Solos

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 07:49 am Click here to edit this post
I think Tali was just in The Game to help iron out the kinks and rough spots. Tali was never in it to win it...but rather to learn from this new idea and see how to better it and help carry the Game to its fullest potential as a new virtual reality Game, that was well thought up and took alot of time and effort on Lisa's part , Neil ect. to work out several problems that have come to the surface. Too many rooms, the nics / names of BGS. Many of the problems Tali/Gail posted to Host and what was done only made The Game better.
Gail was first placed in the house and a Mole, and she monitored The game on that basis for several days, making it better and less confusing.

Wcv63

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 08:37 am Click here to edit this post
Once again, I have no problem with Gail being in the game and can even forgive the private convos and IMing. However, she has not accepted any sense of responsibility for her part in it and has taken to sniping at Arreal in every one of her posts. Her actions are petty and childish and she is the one keeping this thing going with her poor little me internet cam addresses. She is acting like a victim. Poor Tali, Arreal didn't keep your confidence and ratted you out to the world.

Whit4you

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 08:58 am Click here to edit this post
People seem to be forgetting it was Gail who made the banishkearie website prior to the start of the ame and made kearie (ArReal) aware of that. She also voted for ArReal for banishment. She also tried to instigate a chat ON this board knowing full well it was against the rules. And then convinced two other BGs ArReal and Vykin to go private "because she was upset about her mother" - then disclosed to ArReal her real identity (Gail - the person who had planned the BanishKearie website and also the person who nominated her for banishment)

She's never admitted to any wrong doing to the BGs in anyway and has allowed ArReal to take all the heat. She's posted alot of very mean things to them and even more so in the red room.

I never had a problem MYSELF with the fact that she was a moderator here, but I do have serious issues with the fact that a BANNER was selected out of ALL the other options including ones supporting ArReal that says

TALISKER - ITS ALL MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING - HANG IN THERE.

I do not believe this choice was made in malious (just a tired BH trying too sooth a friends feelings)

I have to hope that ArReal really is a "mole" in this game and we on the outside are the "real" game - if not then that choice by the BH was definately out of line. Because of the conflict of interest it should NOT have been flown unless one of the many supporting ArReal was as well.

Imagine how THAT banner must make ArReal feel??? The Banner I assume was choosen by the BH to appease a friend's feelings, after all that friend has been through do to the cheating she's done I guess?? . Do to lack of sleep/ a fried brain from all of this/ or who knows however - I can't see that the BH thought for a second how it might make ArReal feel - as if she hasn't gotten enough flak already from those INSIDE the house, now she sees the BH post that this is "much ado about nothing"

As mentioned this game is a "learning" experience for everyone. I think you can add "letting the folks OUTSIDE vote on banners to be flown" should be added to the list of lessons learned here. The BH "controlling the sky" with a banner like that has already in my opinion caused at least somewhat of a conflict of interest when a moderator is involved in the game. <sigh>

I hope someone is keeping track of the "lessons" learned here!

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 09:46 am Click here to edit this post
A poll should be set up for the banners.

Digilady

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:03 am Click here to edit this post
A poll should be set up for new polls.

Nikkid

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:07 am Click here to edit this post
What has Talis contributed? Not a damn thing... From the first all she did was simper how she wanted to jump all the male members, and not bring it into the game. Is it just me that gagged when reading her RR? The only time she came close was when she read mantastics sexual consent thread and got WET (as a verb - so gross - still not over the trauma). Then she banished females cuz they were her "competition for the men." It was old by the second day. I have no clue what her mole duty was - but if it was portraying women in the worst light possible, she nailed it on the head. She didn't sabatoge a single thing. If I had to choose a mole before this came to light, vykin and xenia would have been at the top of my list, and yet, I'm a xenia supporter so it has no bearing on my vote.
All that she has contributed past this point is a shady meeting with WG's (yes, they are all guilty - but it was instigated by her), a bad xenia on vykin impression - but she cast arreal in the role of vykin, no apologies, an outright lie about not coming to this side of the board, and lack of responsibility. She is someone I would cross the street to avoid.

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:08 am Click here to edit this post
Pas ca quand meme!

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:10 am Click here to edit this post
I'm wondering if someone is cheating on the voting in a major way because I find it hard to believe that some want to banish ArR over Talisk.

Wcv63

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:16 am Click here to edit this post
Well I have my suspicions. However, they are still suspicions and therefore will not share them until and unless they pan out.

Nikkid

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:16 am Click here to edit this post
I was thinking that as well Ocean. Only admin and co can look at the voters. Too bad there are not break-downs by name. :) At least it would give us a good idea. Hiliarious when you think what the BG's are thinking (that we out here are ballot stuffing out talisker). By the way - I know who emailed Vykin - they were in chat last night lisduane.

Digilady

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:24 am Click here to edit this post
Agreed, all. Ah well, like Host said, nothing can be done =this= time.

Next time?

Login to vote. I dunno about =new= members, but still - I doubt all of a sudden 30 new members would want to vote!

Has to be a way...

Whit4you

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:29 am Click here to edit this post
FOLKS - regarding the vote - if you voted for ArReal please take a moment to post under the thread "Did you vote for ArReal? If so please explain why? "

It's not a "bash" ArReal theard - a very simple reason is fine. I appreciate you taking the time to do so.

Thanks

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:32 am Click here to edit this post
Few people are going to respond to that request, Whit. Voting is usually a private matter.

Whit4you

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:34 am Click here to edit this post
I read that bout them thinking that we are "ballot stuffing" Tali. I thought that was so funny. The logic behind someone making fake names because they feel so strongly that Tali's cheating was wrong, and that cheating shouldn't be done that they would cheat to prove how wrong they feel cheating is. Um OK.

Logic to me would dictate that anyone who thinks cheating is NOT wrong would have no issue with Tali staying IN this game - and have no problem cheating to ensure it.

This does not imply that I think anyone is really cheating and I think my "polling the jury" on why this revote was really one - will also resolve THAT question as well. (the Did you vote for ArReal thread)

Whit

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:34 am Click here to edit this post
Besides, people -- wake up. The site says 'Anything goes.'

Whit4you

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 10:43 am Click here to edit this post
No Ocean I don't think so - the revote was done because those who'd already voted felt that because of events that transpired there should be a revote. Look at all those who say they are voting out tali, or xenia etc. Would make not sense that the only ones who wouldn't want to share their views on this are those who are voting to ArReal. If this revote is indeed because people who had already voted feeling strongly enough about what ArReal did after the intial vote to demand a revote - then they must feel pretty strongly about what SHE's done - don't see many regulars around here afraid to voice their opinions on the BGs LOL. I am not really concerned about the lurkers who don't feel strongly about this enough to respond - they weren't the ones who requested this revote in the first place LOL.

Whit

Whit4you

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 11:00 am Click here to edit this post
Well I tossed up a "Quick Poll of the Jury - did you vote for Talisker" thread. Just to test my theory thta those of us who voted for her feel strongly enough about it to say it right in front of Big Brother and everyone LOL - lets see if my theory is correct?? :)

P.S. I don't like the implication of "anything goes" makes my mind think Host says "anything goes - host doesnt feel a need to disqualify one member for blatantly cheating, and two others for cheating. Perhaps he doesn't have a problem with cheating?? That would be interesting concidering he's the one monitoring the ISP of those voting. I'm just kidding here - somewhere somehow some ethics have GOT to come to play in all of this DON'T they?? LOL.

Whitney

Nikkid

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 11:04 am Click here to edit this post
LOL I just thought anything goes meant they could have sex and swear! hahaha...

Katie

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 11:52 am Click here to edit this post
That was what I thought too. Not that cheating is allowed!

Nikkid

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 12:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok a new reason:
Talis on the domestic thread-
Perhaps if someone had gotten involved (there are 2 neighbors who did nothing up there) the wife would be alive and the husband could have been getting some help. Instead, the wife is dead, her 2 year old daughter is without a mother and the husband is in jail being tried for 1st degree murder.
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she followed it with a grumpy face. (btw I do agree that the neighbors should have done something) but here she is, the husband is being tried for 1st degree murder and it's the neighbors fault! She thinks he would have "gotten help."

I'm gonna put myself up for bashing here. I lived next door to an abuser and his spouse. I've watched the kids as the police went in to get his gun away from him. I've listened as she said she was never going back to him. And, I've watched as the police took his guns and his wife away. Yep, took the wife to a shelter, away from her home while they "helped" the husband. She was back a week later. Hey when he kills her, it will be my fault, because maybe after watching this play out again and again - I'm slow on calling the cops, it becomes white noise after awhile.

Katie

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 12:35 pm Click here to edit this post
I will stay out of that discussion

Sbw

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 12:52 pm Click here to edit this post
Talis got the big host to give them an extension on their challenge so she could go rollerblading. :) I really feel sorry for Roger at this point, he has been very, very active in solving the challenges and receives some help, but it is not a completely shared effort. (Sounds kinda like Curtis, huh?)

Don't yell at me, yes I realize Roger has had some help with the puzzles, but not a completely shared effort. (To keep from getting yelled at, I wonder if I need to put any other disclaimers in here?)

Lafatme

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 01:07 pm Click here to edit this post
nekkid, if the neighbor got involved he'd be banished for "snitching" if the people voting for arreal had any say in it.

Lafatme

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 01:09 pm Click here to edit this post
sorry, meant to say nikkid

Lisduane

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 01:39 pm Click here to edit this post
I normally lurk but will step in to say, I do not know Vykin and have never been in a chat with vykin.