Arreal | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 10:26 am  Hey! No fair, all the peices are shaped the same AND the same color.  |
Arreal | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 10:42 am  To get the thoughts rolling, my first thoughts were-that grazing land, with livestock, show that people are definitely around and will check on the area. The pilot and the crew/passengers will be more likely to get help sooner once the aircraft lands. Therefore, since both areas are unknown, and considering the worst possible scenerios, the best chance of survial lies with the cows. (hehe) Just an assumption that where livestock roam ranchers aren't too far away and help will be more easily accessed. help me out BG's |
Talisker | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 10:50 am  I can't stay long -I have other obligations in real life in a bit (the other show where I am a character) Need to check to see if there are roads, water (island) what kind of plane - is the pilot having an emergency or is he helping out in an emergency (brainstorm as I am writing) I can't stay and ask questions til later (still snoozing with Roger I think). Anyways, just a guess . . . |
Luke | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 11:00 am  Thinking out loud here... could it be that since the pilot is in unfamiliar territory, he isn't sure about how firm the flat open plane may be? Like maybe it could be a flat marshland or something? I dunno...Maybe it's flat... but squishy! But then at least the cows grazing on the uneven site would at least signal the pilot that it's solid ground...right? Any other ideas? |
Himay10ns | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 11:10 am  I'm thinking that they might be able to EAT the cows/DRINK the milk if they get hungry/thirsty, especially if they are stranded for a long time without being rescued. It would be better than eating each other! hehehe |
Arreal | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 11:10 am  Luke, I like the squishy ground thing....sounds like a good concern, depending on what part of the counrty he is in. Keep it up. |
Talisker | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 11:20 am  I posted a few questions in the questions area. I will be back in about three hours after I deal with an errand. Then maybe we can come up with an answer. In the meantime, we need a spokesperson for this. Can you guys come up with a name for the group leader for this challenge? |
Arreal | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 11:21 am  I still think where there are farm animals there are farmers near by...thus help. Kill a cow to eat while we wait and don't wander to the unstable, squishy flat land. This is assuming we survived the crash and can still walk. Mooooo---bye George---I think we're getting somewhere. |
Himay10ns | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 12:03 pm  Tali---I definitely choose you as the group leader. Since you are a pilot, you will have insight that we don't have. You are a wise woman and we trust you to take our questions and suggestions and present them to the BigHost. I'll be thinking about this one today and I'll post some ideas in a few hours. |
Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 12:38 pm  An interesting puzzle. Thinking about loud, I have a couple of questions to consider. Different planes take different lengths of runway to take off and land safely. While neither provide a runway, is it possible the clear area isn't big enough for the plane in question (maybe not even close), where the second site would provide a long enough area to land..and maybe have an extra cushion to warrant taking a chance with livestock and rough terrain. Notice the Host didn't mention how rough the terrain was! Arreal, Tali, Luke, you bring up valid points. May, your thoughts bring great mental images---killing and butchering a cow, then eating it raw!! Of course if it was in the dead of winter.... Considring it's an emergency situation, and the pilot sees two different areas, it's possible they are close to each other--making both close to people intervention within a decent amount of time. I'm going to post a couple of questions for Host, and see if we can narrow down the conditions. That could make a difference in what we need to consider. |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 12:41 pm  Hey guys I am back! Here are my thoughts The pilot was confused and meant to land on the flat surface... The pilot Has a hang up about cows and wanted to kill them... The pilot just saw a "Got Milk" advertisement… Okay Okay... When a plane that lands on a flat surface or terrane they would need the use of brakes and in an emergency situation more than likely they are not available so the pilot would have to land on a terrain with something to stop the momentum the plane would have when landing... Just a thought ... flying scares me anyway! |
Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:09 pm  Moon--excellent point about the brake issue. Maybe they were not functioning. Ah, the power of advertisement!! lol |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:26 pm  Hey Roger ... guess it would depend on how much of an area they would have to land in ... if smooth... there would be no way of stopping with no use of the brakes . As sad as it would be... the cows would be a small bump to a big plane and slow them down. Who knows, maybe the flat surface would be long enough to come to a slow hault. |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:27 pm  Can we use a lifeline? ... my brother knows a lot about planes! |
Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:32 pm  Moon, et al--I'm doing a little brainstorming question-wise in the area that Host will answer yes or no to. Join in if you want--the more the better!! |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:32 pm  Here's another thought ... the plane would slide around a lot ... even do a tailspin if it didn't have anything to take away from the momentum? |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:36 pm  Then ... maybe this is it RogerRam.... It is an enemy invasion! |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:45 pm  So that would make sence ... the best choice would be the open smooth terrain(sounds like a landing strip) so why would you not pick that one othter than not wanting to be seen in a open area! |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:49 pm  I posted that first one on a whim, Ram... then went to read your wondeful questioning and it confirmed it for me! Lets continue with this! |
Himay10ns | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:52 pm  Think about this...if the smooth area belongs to the enemy force and there is some sort of "enemy base" there, the pilot would have nowhere to eject and once he hit ground, he would be captured immediately and his plane and all its technology would be in enemy hands. If he lands on the "safe" side of enemy lines (rough terrain), he would at least have underbrush to hide in while he waits to be rescued and the plane would burn. This is all assuming the pilot lives after the ejection. |
Roger_Ramjet | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:54 pm  Nice whim Moon!!!!! I am truly impressed. I agree, let's press forward. Join in with questions if you have them---remember make sure they can be answered with only a yes or a no. We don't want to give Host a chance to throw us off the trail!! lol  |
Himay10ns | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:55 pm  My father is a three star general in the Air Force and he flies F16s...BigHost can I use a lifeline and "phone a friend"?? |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:56 pm  Plus ... some times when A military leaves or abandons a camp or landing site they will leave landmines so it can not be inhabited by others |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:57 pm  There would not be land mines where the cows are! |
Moondance | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:59 pm  Okay, I got excited ... not an invasion because it is an emergency landing but the pilot cannot land in a place that would be seen or have possible landmines or traps... |