Archive through October 25, 2000

The ClubHouse: The Game - Discussion Room: General : General - Archives: ** Newsflash** Mole Discovered: "It's Lafatme" <-- Vykin says: Archive through October 25, 2000

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:27 am Click here to edit this post
See Vykin questions and answers in Playroom.

Affinity

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:28 am Click here to edit this post
I knew you'd be the first to create this thread Oc
don't ask me how

Azriel1104

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:35 am Click here to edit this post
I can't believe this. GEEESH!

Why is Vykin posting that? He thinks that makes Kearie look bad? It makes HIM look bad.

Why did Kearie pass this on to him? Why was he emailing with Kearie discussing the game?

If he knew that Kearie was getting outside emails why didn't he tell Host as soon as he found out? Was it because they were sharing all the info they found out from their moles?

This is crazy. It's like Vykin is saying he smoked it but he didn't inhale!

Affinity

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:37 am Click here to edit this post
"This is crazy. It's like Vykin is saying he smoked it but he didn't inhale! "

And what's wrong with doing that Az?

Norequerdo

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:38 am Click here to edit this post
Come on Guys, Bottom Line is Arreal has been lying. You all have been saying that Vykin is Lying. Admit that Arreal lied, and not only that her supporters have been lying.

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:43 am Click here to edit this post
Do you think this document is real or fake?

Norequerdo

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:45 am Click here to edit this post
Well I am sure someone will try and say that Ocean. I just hope this is going to be a daily thread of Vykin's. I wonder what else ArReal has sent to Vykin. This is just too much fun for me.

Whit4you

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:00 am Click here to edit this post
Well the game started on the 7th I believe? According to Vyking she sent him that on the 8th?

Seems like Laf had a heck of alot information about a heck of alot of questions that Kearie had apparently asked him? (In a email titled "Hey Guys"????? )

Not sure how any of you feel about posting private Emails to a public board, but in "my little world" it's definately NOT ok without the authors permission. I'll assume for now he got Laf's permission however.

I am wondering if he's implying by her sending that - that he HAD to read it? If I were playing in that game, and someone sent me "outside" info, I'd stop reading it as soon as I realized what it was, and ask them to refrain from any further attempts.

As far as her "lying" about it, I'd bet she forgot about it. That was apparently written the first day of the game - alot happened since then. HE forgot about it, yet you don't believe SHE could have hmmmm....okdokie.

It'll be interesting to hear the reason why she'd send Tom an Email - asking him questions about the game and address it as "Hey Guys" :)

Azriel1104

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:01 am Click here to edit this post
Aff, I might have voted for Clinton if he had just said, 'Yeah I smoked marijuana.'

I would have respected him then, because everyone does things in their lives that are not wise or sensible. I have no respect for someone that tries to wiggle out of a bad situation with such a lameass excuse.

Vykin is doing the same thing with his 'I was wrong but I didn't know because it wasn't written in black and white in the rules and Arreal was worse than me so pick on her!'

Spamgirl

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:04 am Click here to edit this post
Kearie already said that she recieved outside info FROM vykin... maybe, at the time, she was also sharing it...

Both of them were involved in the chat... now, possibly, both of them were readily recieving outside info... (I thought arreal was because she left the game at just the right time, but I never said anything about it)

I don't know how much I believe this document... first of all, the formatting of it doesn't look like he cut and pasted it.. so it's been retyped at the least... until host verifies it, I won't believe it... vykin has told TOO MANY LIES.

Whit4you

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:13 am Click here to edit this post
Yup I think Vyking is leaving out a few things here, perhaps to make her look bad and not him?

I mean the others were people she knew (accept Ryder/Tali) so why did she single HIM out to send that email to in the first place? Unless he's leaving out a few things that happened PRIOR to the mailing of that letter to him?

Tangled web going on here eh?

I liked Vyking as a person, didn't agree with his part in the cheating etc, but did like him as a person. At this point I am really beginning to dislike him. He's never admitted or apologized for any involvement in this, has lied and denied most of it - and tried to place the blame on anyone but himself for HIS choices. My son learned better then that by the time he was 6 years old.

Spamgirl

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:15 am Click here to edit this post
I don't think Laf gave permission...

But on to the email:

This was sent on the 8th... that whole thing about IMing came out on what - the 13th?

If Vyk can use the excuse "I didn't know it was cheating until Host told me to stop", so can Arreal...

Norequerdo

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:16 am Click here to edit this post
Spin Spin Spin

Nadi

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:20 am Click here to edit this post
The game started on the 6th. There were already 24 topics in the game discussion area that ended by the afternoon of the 8th. There were countless more that may have been started prior to the 8th that ran longer. The topic list only gives the date/time of the last post for each topic not the start.

Its not unreasonable to suggest that there was ample information to be passed on. However that doesn't mean the email is true. I'm not going to comment on whether I think its true or not without hearing the other side to this.

Vasix

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:24 am Click here to edit this post
Vykin's posts said He was interested in debates. And I think Vykin has decided that "I'm a tree" or "Truth or Dare" doesn't have enough debate potential. Folks, I think we are being played like a drum! Isn't it interesting that the boards are crackling with debates that mirror Monica-gate. Unspoken rules broken, leaks, deception, moral outrage...if a blue dress with stains on it shows up, I'm outta here!

Snare Drum Vasix

Petunia

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:28 am Click here to edit this post
>If he knew that Kearie was getting outside emails why didn't he tell Host as soon as he found out?

That's a very good question, Az.

Spamgirl

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:30 am Click here to edit this post
The game wouldn't be fun if there wasn't a mole to be found, a liar, a cheater... if they were all good, moralistic, law-abiding people, we'd be bored to tears.

So what if we're being played? We're also being entertained... and the whole fun of it is to join in...

Norequerdo

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:32 am Click here to edit this post
Iam with you there Spam. I am loving every minute of this. I cant wait to hear what Lafatme has to say about this. It will be worht the price of a ticket. I wonder if Lafatme will feel betrayed by Arreal?

Whit4you

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:33 am Click here to edit this post
Well first of all on the 7th - or 8th (when Kearie sent, or supposedly sent someone a list of questions about the game) the prize was for a Tshirt, so I doubt she figured "cheating" was really going to hurt anyone BUT herself. She wouldn't get the real feel of The Game if she were "reading the board, via someone else telling her what the board said" but it WAS in my opinion cheating, even if it was for a Tshirt at the time - cheating herself. She is the one who admitted that her and Vyking were IMing - even when he tried to lie to the other BGs and claim it was "technical" stuff, she admitted it was more then that. At some point she had to come to the conclusion that with all the "outside info" that she had recieved, that she didn't deserve to win the game. I posted something to that effect a while back, that they should disqualify themselves.

Vyking should have just told the truth, admitted what he'd done. Taken responsibility and apologized for it. Instead he's STILL trying to hold Kearie responsible for his actions.

He said he forgot about that Email. I have to wonder - how many other Emails/ IMs and "outside info" he's gotten that he's forgotten.

Spamgirl

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:33 am Click here to edit this post
He didn't tell host for the same reason I'm not afraid to kick someone's ass who has a warrant out for their capture - I'm not going to go to the authorities to tattle on someone who's doing the same damn thing I am...

Vykin is a Hyp-o-crite

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:38 am Click here to edit this post
This is all very puzzling because now BOTH Vykin AND Talisker are holding Kearie responsible for the whole thing and pointing fingers.

Norequerdo

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:38 am Click here to edit this post
Well gang you have to admit this is fun, if nothing else this is a whole lot of fun. What about the issue though, of the outsiders and outsider contact. Sure looks to me that Arreal sent an email to Lafatme asking what people thought of her on the outside. Looks like Lafatme was giving her inside information. I wonder whether Lafatme was giving daily reports, I wonder if Lafatme was the only one giving ArReal reports?????? Remember Arreal felt guilty about involving herself in IMs. I don't recall seeing a full confession of her crimes. Did I miss the thread where she said she was asking people what was going on???

Arreal is exactly what I thought she was. Now Vykin, who knows. I sure hope there is a lot more to follow. I cant wait. I think vykin probably figures he has nothing left to lose at this point and he thinks that Arreal is trashing him on the outside, so why not go after Arreal from the inside. This is great stuff. Cant you guys enjoy this.

Spamgirl

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:39 am Click here to edit this post
Oh my! We're adding BETRAYAL to the mix! I totally never even thought about that!

I don't think Laf will be betrayed... I'm surprised at his/her (I think it's a him) actions, though...

Well, at least Laf wasn't in on the mole threads :) that would be just too much! ROFL

In the end, I'd have to say - ArReal left the game, and if this email is truth, I'd say that she had more on her mind than we thought. I agree with whit - this was when it was for a tshirt, so the stakes weren't so high. But now that they are that high, she took herself out of the game. ArReal has a CONCIENCE, that's more than I can say for Vyk.

I'd just like to say if I was in the game and I got outside info, I'd forward it to host and tell the person who sent it to stop. Better yet, I'd have my husband monitor my email for me. I can understand the temptation, but what fun is a game if you're cheating? REALLY?

I can't understand it... I truly can't.

Spamgirl

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:43 am Click here to edit this post
Nor: "Hey guys" implies that it was probably a farewell letter from arreal to her friends...

ArReal left the game without admitting everything she did - nothing wrong with that! She said she cheated, and if the things she didn't share didn't involve other BGs directly (I don't think forwarding that email was part of a large diabolical scheme) then it doesn't have to be discussed...

And yes, I'm enjoying this greatly :)

Hell, I haven't read the virtual house in 2 days... no time! ROFL

Norequerdo

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:45 am Click here to edit this post
what was the date on arreals email? Does it say? Certainly by the time Arreal left, I dont think the outside feeling on the boards was that everyone liked Vykin. LOL