Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 06:30 pm  I am sorry and you may all disagree with me but Arreal's latest post about asking for a voluntary walk out is nothing but a big play once again for sympathy. She is playing that house like a fiddle. Now they are all swarming around her saying please don't go. I am ready to throw up. I am telling you this is like watching a bette davis movie. |
Bijoux | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 06:47 pm  While I agree that she is making a play for sympathy, I don't believe that she is consciously setting out to manipulate people a la Eve in the Bette Davis movie. I have a lot of respect for how open she has been about her life and how hard she has had to work to get where she is now. I also think that she has a lot left to work on and is on an emotional roller coaster. This game is probably not good for her emotional health and I'm hoping that she's realizing it and does leave voluntarily. |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 06:47 pm  Watsamatta doncha like Bette Davis er sumpin? |
Vasix | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 06:50 pm  Which one of Arreal's alters wants to walk out? Do all the Arreals want to leave? Then wouldn't that be a mass exodus? Neil: Crowd control to the House, Arreal is on the move! Arreal may or may not have multiple personalities but she must think we are multiple dummies to not see thru her pandering sympathy ploys. She sounds more like her dominant alter is a Drama Queen that needs a lot of attention. |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 06:53 pm  Ah HA! The ArReal bashers FINALLY show up! I was just waiting for that one, with my stopwatch. It's not her fault that the administration and its helpers put her in a difficult place and I think she did well to do what she did. |
Nikkid | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:14 pm  Amen Ocean. |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:31 pm  amen ocean amen nikkid |
Digilady | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:33 pm  Twould not be a bad thing, should she walk. I for one would be GLAD to see her participating back here! |
Vasix | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:36 pm  Ocean I'm not bashing Arreal, just pointing out that if you play to sympathies you get the rap of being a player. If Arreal is truly a multiple she should focous on her care and not drag it out to become her focus. I'm certain her therapist wouldn't approve of her playing an e game and going on about her multiples. And if you got a stopwatch, keep timing all of us. We spot phonies a mile away. Look forward to catching another ocean wave. Arreal is a drama queen looking for attention. Give her all the attention you want, she won't be in the game long. |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:38 pm  why is it that if you post anything negative against Arreal it is Arreal bashing. yet everyone was posting against Vykin earlier for something that as near as I can tell Arreal started. All I am saying is that I am not sure I buy all this sugar and spice stuff. And if the tables were turned would you feel the same way. Quite Frankly, if I was Vykin I am not sure an I am sorry would suffice. Now I think her talking about leaving is a play for sympathy. If that is bashing then fine. I am not going to be on eggshells with one player and not the other. Nobody accused me of bashing when I posted pretty negative stuff about Xenia. |
Vasix | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:39 pm  yes digilady it would be nice to get some of the players out here who obviously have been denizens of this site for awhile and have a lot of friends out here in the posts. |
Katie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:43 pm  I would like to say it is not a sympathy thing. She told me that she asked the admin about it hours ago. |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:46 pm  Katie, I am new to this. I didnt realize that players could talk to people on the outside. |
Vasix | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:47 pm  Katie you talk to Arreal? I thought she was sequestered? Whats up with that? |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:50 pm  No, Norequerdo I think the issue is starting to blame ArReal for something that she actually had nothing absolutely to do with. |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:52 pm  I am sorry. I read in a post of ArReals that she said she started it and she apologized to Vykin. If I a wrong correct me. I was just going based on Arreal's post. |
Katie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:01 pm  ArReal is my friend and has been since before this game began and we talk about emotional issues not the game. I tell her I am supporting her and I tell her I care but we don't discuss the game. We talk about other things in our life just like friends do. We are still talking about the BB show and who were liked and why and who we didn't like but not about the game. I created her fan site for her and the email address on it is mine not hers. She wrote me hours ago and told me she was going to leave the game because he was hurting about it and so was going to write to admin and ask about leaving. She was very upset and just wanted out. She has been waiting for an answer from the admin since. I hope that clears that up. I don't think there is anything wrong with talking with a friend as long as it isn't about the game. I am in email contact with several people from this board and I don't think that should stop as long as we keep the game out of it. |
Kpritch | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:05 pm  Why is ArReal contacting people discussing the game? I understand she may want to leave, but why not wait to contact people after she is gone..if she does leave? Nor, is this the post from ArReal that you're referring to? VyK--- I am truly very sorry for having caused so much difficulty for you in the house. I should have trusted you and for that I apologize. I apologize for raising questions about your honesty and about your honesty towards me. I was wrong and I hope in time you can forgive. |
Lafatme | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:05 pm  kearie is a doll. she has posted on the mental health thread of her illness well before this game was even thought of. those of you who believe she is a drama queen, self absorbed, and looking for sympathy are just flat out wrong! most of the arreal bashers have admitted just arriving lately so they obviously don't have any idea who they're talking about. to have questions is understandable, to pretend to have the answers is simply ignorant. |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:12 pm  First of all I admit I am new but I also come from a place where I have significant experience with mental illness. My husband has suffered from a bipolar disorder for over twenty years. I have sat in more shrink sessions over twenty years than you can imagine. So dont say I am ignorant. I think I can tell when someone is playing for sympathy and that is what I am seeing on the board. I am not insensitive. I can tell you more about how to live with someone who is mentally ill than I bet any of you posters can. This game is not about the mentally ill. This game is about what is going on in the house and how we as observers interpret it. I am not bashing. yes I am new. Perhaps because I dont know any of the players I am not influenced by any past discussions about people's individual struggles. |
Muzzy | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:13 pm  Katie, listen-like Vasix stated a multiple needs to work out problems with therapist who would not recommend she discuss her problems to players in a game who only know her by what she tells them and this game is about challenges and discussions not pity> I am sure other game players have problems and keep them outside of game, a reall friend to arreal would advise her to get out and get help, even you Katie, referr in your last msg on Arreal as he and then she, maybe you are just to close and need therapy too.PITY is a PLOY!! |
Streetjaie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:17 pm  I think this is a play by arreal to get everyone to help her win. I can't believe that some of these people are saying that she did nothing wrong. She posted an apology, I SAW IT!! I know that if that happened to one of you, and it was a false accusation or something and everyone wanted you to get the boot, you would feel diferently. You might say she has multiple, give her a break. I say that one of her multiples have gone ga ga. Lafatme, you can call me a basher all you want, but I am stating my opinion. There is no law about stating an opinion. I have know people to have multiple and seem fine, but all it takes is a split second for them to go off. I used to work in a mental health facility. I've seen patients who were fine for 5 years, and when something happens that they don't like, they can't handle it and one of their personalities takes over. If she want's to leave, let her, no sweat off my back. But I think this is a sympathy ploy. I've seen them before, I KNOW. You can call me what ever you want, but that's my story and I'M STICKING TO IT! |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:18 pm  No one is saying self-pity is a good thing. ArReal does skirt around that at times. But that is not the issue here. So let's deal with the real issue, and leave side issues to the side. |
Norequerdo | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:20 pm  The issue that was brought up was that if you posted anything negative about Arreal you were a basher. That is what got me going. And Ocean you were the one who said the bashers have come out. So what is the real issue. |
Katie | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:21 pm  Katie, referr in your last msg on Arreal as he and then she, Haven't you ever made a typo? Must be nice to be so perfect! |