Archive through October 25, 2000

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Brumie

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 08:42 pm Click here to edit this post
Hi, I have been busy with other things, so I haven't followed TheGame. I would like to tell you all, for whatever it’s worth, that I am Vykin's longest and best online friend. Though we've never met in person, I’ve found Vykin to be an honest person, and in all those 7 years, I’ve never known him to lie about anything.
A few weeks ago, Vykin sent an email to everyone he knows and told them not to email or IM him about TheGame. As far as I know, we have all complied.

Tukuul

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 09:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Shhhhhhhhh...

Be careful or you might be targeted as the "mole".

Lafatme

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 11:20 pm Click here to edit this post
perhaps after 7 years he is a great guy, i doubt i could stand him that long so i'll never know.

after 3 weeks he just seems to be arrogant and self centered.

"what about ME, zeb? what are they saying about ME?

actually, he sounds like a politician. he does nothing wrong and nothing is his fault. maybe he really is the prez.

Kearie

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 11:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Hey there sexy...:)

Norequerdo

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 11:30 pm Click here to edit this post
he shouldnt ask what about me when he sees that banner flying. Come on you wouldn't ask the same question????? I know vykin is going to lose but I hope he goes down swinging. He isnt going to slink away with a self serving excuse. At least he stuck it out to the end rather than quitting because he knows he is going to lose.

Katie

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 11:46 pm Click here to edit this post
He sounds a bit paranoid to me !Maybe from guilt?

Kearie

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 11:50 pm Click here to edit this post
what is the difference between excuse and reason?

Norequerdo

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 11:59 pm Click here to edit this post
If the "reason" for your quitting was that you didn't deserve to win. Why did it take you a whole week to find religion on this one. As i see it you used it as an "excuse" to try and redeem your character and at the same time nail the only person in the house who questioned your character.

That is pretty much the difference between reason and excuse.

Kearie

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 12:08 am Click here to edit this post
It was my reason. It was not an excuse. sometimes people struggle with guilt. I certainly didn't want to quit the game. I miss the people in there. Vyk's verbal taunts at me were humerous to me just as Tali's were when she used the name ArReal in such creative ways.

I find the taunts funny. I find the lying funny and the fact they he is skirting the issue of who he WAS getting info from on the outside.

I find people's blind loyalty to him interesting.

My reasons for quitting were because I felt bad for doing wrong. I waited a week, because I didn't want to quit. I struggled with the decision to quit.

Norequerdo

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 12:19 am Click here to edit this post
I dont know that I have a blind loyalty to Vykin anymore than Katie has a blind loyalty to you. Is he skirting the issue? seems to me he was willing to answer any questions that were posted to him. He seemed willing to answer anything. Too bad he didnt have more time. I hope the house guests raise the issue with him tomorrow and let's see what he says

Affinity

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 05:01 am Click here to edit this post
I think I'm with Brumie and Nor on this one. Vykin is a great guy. I am young, I would sort of look up to him as a father figure. He seems honest to me. Go Vykin!

Nadi

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 05:17 am Click here to edit this post
Kearie
I know this may sound dumb but how exactly did you do wrong? The IM thing? How exactly was this against the rules? Was there some specific rule against this? When you actually had the IM conversations did you feel you were breaking the rules? Or was this a decision you reached after. If it wasn't against the published rules but it was based on your perception of the rules do you think it fair to judge anyone else based on your perceptions?
Furthermore if you didn't believe you were cheating at the time why did you feel the need to leave the game?

Vasix

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 06:56 am Click here to edit this post
Kearie! PLEASE! Stop listening to your dear and beloved TVCLUB friends. YOU DID NOTHING WRONG according to the rules. The whole cheating scandal is just a ruse to purge certain players from the game. Kearie, you didn't cheat. You I/M'd someone. And according to your own testimony it was to see how they were doing. You weren't scheming to bring down the game or trying to get an unfair advantage. It was a whole big deal about nothing, and if they were your true friends they would have flown hourly banners saying Kearie STAY IN!!!!!!!!!!!. The only cheating that occured was YOU KEARIE GOT CHEATED OUT OF STAYING IN THE GAME! You should have stayed in. You didn't cheat. Your "friends" are using the cheating scandal to target people they don't like.

Affinity

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 07:47 am Click here to edit this post
Well said Vasix
clap clap

Whit4you

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 07:48 am Click here to edit this post
Kearie, pssssst they are now saying "you did nothing wrong" I guess they just gave you 50 votes on the REVOTE, to convince you of that. (37 more votes then you recieved the day before the IM/Chat stuff came out)

Whit

Affinity

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 07:50 am Click here to edit this post
I never thought she did anything wrong. The same with Vykin, which is why I am rooting for him. But the underdogs never win :(

Norequerdo

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 07:51 am Click here to edit this post
Whit, not sure if that was the point. Is there anything wrong with sending IM's, I dont see the big deal. Arreal wasn't talking to outsiders about the game. I don't think Arreal should have quit, I would rather have seen her voted out. I dont care for the way she has behaved throughout this whole thing with talisker. I dont think she behaved honorably there.

Vasix

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 07:54 am Click here to edit this post
Whit: yes she got 50 votes. Now how many DIFFERENT voters does that vote total reflect?? Kearie got a bum rap.
The Host never said Kearie cheated. The Host never took action. Kearie should have stayed in. Now we just have slog thru a week and annoint Mr.Rogers-O-Blessed-Being the winner.

Spamgirl

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:00 am Click here to edit this post
Nor: "Arreal wasn't talking to outsiders about the game."

No, she was talking to BG's about the game... and any discussion between them was supposed to be done IN the game.

What's the point of the game if all the BG's discussions aren't going to be visible to us??

Ocean_Islands

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:02 am Click here to edit this post
Kearie left because Vykin accused her of lying and she was sick and tired of it.

That banner was just a way to get back at Vykin and she's hoping he gets nominated and voted out on his bum because of it.

Spamgirl

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:08 am Click here to edit this post
I don't think the banner is what's going to get Vyk out... I think Vyk is what's going to get vyk out... the banner didn't reveal anything, and really was nothing more than a stab at Vyk's guilty conscience (which he doesn't seem to have one of... psychopatic?)

Vasix

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:09 am Click here to edit this post
Well OI the point is Kearie had wonderful relationships with others in the house. And if she was called a liar then thats not as bad as being threatened with rape, or called a spouse abuser or had her deceased relatives memory assualted. I think one reason that Kearie quit was she missed all of her friends and would rather believe in their friendship than doubt herself around strangers that were playacting in a game. We keep assuming Arreal "ran" FROM something. Maybe she ran TOWARDS something: the companionship of amiable friends she adores.

Norequerdo

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:14 am Click here to edit this post
Oh GANG?????? Check out Vykin's post in Questions asked and Answered. Lafatme is a star!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am laughing so hard, this is just too great.

Drdude

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:43 am Click here to edit this post
Now this is the kind of work I am used to. The case of paranoia has been sinking in to the skins of everyone involved, which makes for compelling reading. Kearie, it is my duty to let you know that nothing was your fault. You should have stayed in the game. As for banners and such, it is the same as in the tv show. People like to stir the sauce so to speak. Everyone should understand when you have a certain amount of subjects sequestered in one area, this is bound to happen. I feel for those who feel that they have been betrayed. Vasix, you have made a good point. Kearie, did Arreal try to discuss her feelings with Vykin while they were both in the house together (before Arreal left)? It's just a question. If it bothers you, then you don't have to answer. :)

Affinity

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 09:02 am Click here to edit this post
It appears this game has its own dr drew.