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Archive through October 23, 2000
Ocean_Islands | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 01:39 pm  Here's the banner that ran yesterday: BROKEN RULES: PRIVATE TALKS W/TALI & VYK--I DIDN'T DESERVE TO WIN. KEARIE The implication is that Vykin does not deserve to win, and since he is still in the game, perhaps his chances are now reduced. I'm far from being a Vykin fan, but in the interests of controversy, we must ask ourselves: Was it fair to run this banner? Was this Kearie's attempt at executing a post-exit strategy -- a strategy executed AFTER having left the game? |
Spamgirl | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 01:45 pm  Well, it makes Vyk look bad for staying in the game, but he does ANYWAYS to all of us on the outside... we've already had our discussions about Vyk and cheating, so I don't think it affects us... Does it affect the BG's? I doubt it... by this point they've all made up their minds abut the subject anyways.
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Norequerdo | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 01:45 pm  In my opinion it was pretty low but not surprising. |
Ocean_Islands | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 01:53 pm  I think we need to hear from Kearie on this matter. |
Katie | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 01:54 pm  She was trying to explain to the other players why she left. Leave out Vyk in the banner and you have a messed up message that would make no sense. Vyk would still be implied. Even if you left out Tali and Vyk they would be implied. First of all he is guilty of the same things that she is. He was also in that private chat and he was the one that brought her into it. If she is guilty then he is too. If he didn't do anything wrong, then she didn't either. Can't have on guilty and on innocent. There have been several banners flown that are controversial, for example the two for Tali just before she was banished. In the BB game a lot of the banners were controversial. I think this is just ArReal attempt to reassure the BGs of her reasons for leaving. |
Vasix | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 01:55 pm  IMHO this is another example of the "contact" where we all get into trouble. Obviously the boundaries between what constitutes sequestered and/or fair differ depending on how close you are with the host and and the TVCLUB itself. Gail even got confused about the rules. And now Kearie blurs the line between whether she is in or out. If she felt so strongly about it why didn't she say that's why she was leaving to the HG's WHILE SHE WAS THERE? And of COURSE the Host flew that banner of the hundreds of suggestion because it was from Kearie. IMHO |
Norequerdo | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 01:58 pm  I may do a banner and see if the Host flies it. it is all about contact Vasix. If an outsider Kearie can fly a banner which could lead to in house discussions why couldn't someone else. Let's see. |
Katie | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:07 pm  Her comments weren't anything she hadn't already said before. She said this when she tried to quit before. |
Whit4you | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:09 pm  I felt the same way you do about this banner, as I did the "Much ado about nothing" banner that was chosen by the host to fly for Gail prior to her leaving. The Banner didn't seem to bother the BG's at all - seems to bother those on the outside more, which surprises me since it isn't anything anyone didn't ALREADY know. Whit |
Norwican | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:15 pm  I agree with Vasix that she should have shared this with the BG's before leaving the house. After she left she should not have mentioned the others on the banner.... appears to be sour grapes to me. I do believe that the private messaging that Vykin was involved in will hurt his chances to win... but I won't vote him out... he is still my personal favorite! |
Vasix | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:16 pm  Well many people posted that in the NEXT game we have to figure out how to select the banners in an independent fashion. It constitutes a type of outside contact that isn't "fair" because banners are "selected" and its already pretty obvious that some of the players have better connections than others. |
Whit4you | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:17 pm  Norwican what was said in that banner that wasn't said IN the house by both her and vykin? What was said in that banner that she couldn't have left IN the house as her last post? That I am confused about. Whit |
Bijoux | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:18 pm  Kaerie's case is different than Vykin's because there were two separate cases of contact. The first was the Tali/Vykin/ArReal contact. All three equally guilty IMO. The issue was brought out and resolved. Case closed. Then after that there was another instance of ArReal privately contacting a HG, despite the "clarification" of the no contact rule. (And no, contacting Vykin because he wouldn't reply to her board posts is not an extenuating circumstance that justifies the behavior.) Whether its fair or not to fly the banner? It's her reason. Given that they flew Snave's reason, seems only fair that they should fly ArReal's. Whether the HGs see it as valid, a last statement on an issue, or petulance on ArReal's part for Vykin outing the second round of contact is up to the houseguests. At this point I doubt that the banner will have much influence over the other's opinion. |
Ocean_Islands | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:22 pm  Isn't it a matter of OUR opinion, Bijoux? After all, WE'RE the ones who will be voting. Who is influencing who here? |
Vasix | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:23 pm  Bijoux thats an interesting take. Perhaps after a 48 hour period, each HG could be given the opportunity to post a "I'm home and unpacked and here are some final thoughts" postcard or banner to the HG's. |
Bijoux | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:27 pm  Ocean Islands Yep, applies to us too. Maybe I assumed too much believing that most people have pretty much made up their minds about the Tali/Vykin/ArReal thing. Question to others - has the banner/Kearie's statements since leaving influenced who you will vote for? |
Whit4you | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:31 pm  Bij, nope her statements since leaving the game have not influenced who I will vote for. I think those who are ok with Vykin's actions have been since prior to her exit, and her confirming what we already knew isn't going to change their minds. Whit |
Vasix | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:39 pm  Whit I haven't changed my mind a whit. I am fascinated that we have found another way to get another thread to discuss the "Great Cheating Scandal". Do I have to sign my name to all these posts or will you just assume that 16point BRIGHT BLUE name next to EVERY post is the author of the post? |
Ocean_Islands | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:42 pm  My mind is not made up yet so it can't have been changed on this issue. |
Katie | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:43 pm  Here are all of the banners.I think some are questionable but this is a game and the host is going to pick the ones that will stir up controversy. Why would she pick a boring one? Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 08:08 am DEATH PENALTY SUPPORTERS CHOOSE XENIA AND ZEB ------------------------------------------------- Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:48 pm THE OLD MAN HAS A WEAK -------------------------------------- Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 07:41 am THE GAME MAKES NY TIMES - NEIL & ZEB HIGHLIGHTED ----------------------------------------------- Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 02:00 pm XENIA=HATER MANTASTIC=SLACKER --------------------------------------- Monday, October 09, 2000 - 07:24 am HAPPY THANKSGIVING VYKIN, XENIA AND MANTASTIC! ---------------------------------------- Monday, October 09, 2000 - 05:18 pm Himay10ns - CABANA BOY SPOTTED CRUISING IN ADULT CHAT ---------------------------------------------- Monday, October 09, 2000 - 10:30 pm Vote Mantastic - Save The Local Library ----------------------------------------------- Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:15 pm MARRY ME HiMay10Ns! - AFFINITY --------------------------------------------- Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 05:05 pm ArREAL, SINCERE APOLOGIES IF I OFFENDED YOU IN LAST NIGHT'S CHAT. I AM BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY. Norquerdo ------------------------------------------------ Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 05:00 am CURT AND JOSH TALK ABOUT ANGELS ON RADIO SHOW -------------------------------------------------- Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 06:07 pm GAME STOPPED BEING FUN - SNAVE -------------------------------------------------- Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 08:26 am WE LOVE YOU ALL TVCH.COM ------------------------------------------------ Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 02:20 pm TALISKER -- IT'S ALL MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. SOME ON THE OUTSIDE HOPE YOU SURVIVE ------------------------------------------------ Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 08:32 am GO VYKIN! YOU MAKE US PROUD! TVFC http://hometown.aol.com/vykinfanclub ------------------------------------------------ Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 06:50 pm ROGER RAMJET - AMERICA'S HEART THROB - WE YOU ------------------------------------------------- Monday, October 16, 2000 - 02:55 pm TALI - DON'T BE SO SURE YOU ARE THE ONE GOING! -------------------------------------------------- Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 04:55 am XENIA - YOU'RE GETTING SOAP WHEN YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE -------------------------------------------------- Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 06:03 pm ZEB MAKES THE HOT TUB SIZZZLE!!! TALI ------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, October 18, 2000 - 05:01 am CURT & BRIT LEARNED ABOUT GAME ON RADIO SHOW!! -------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, October 18, 2000 - 05:21 pm HANG IN THERE LUKE-WE YOU Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 05:07 am ANGELS LOVE YOU MOONIE! http://moondance-fans.50megs.com/ ------------------------------------------------- Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 05:02 pm ROGER, MY ARE ON YOUR ASS, BUT I WON'T LICK YOUR TEETH! www.angelfire.com/weird/goramjet ------------------------------------------------ Friday, October 20, 2000 - 08:39 am ROGER KNOWS THE TRUTH: FESS UP NOW ------------------------------------------------ Friday, October 20, 2000 - 01:13 pm ZEB, XENIA SAID IN RR SHE'S YANKING YOUR CHAIN http://www.spamgirl.com/zeb/ -------------------------------------------------- Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 07:32 am THE INTERROGATOR GETS JOB AS REGIS' CO-HOST! -------------------------------------------------- Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 07:50 pm VYKIN - TALI MISSES YOU!! -------------------------------------------------- Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:49 am APOLOGIES FOR WHOEVER IMPERSONATED ME IN CHAT. TO ALL - GOOD LUCK WITH GAME - MUZZY -------------------------------------------------- Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 05:27 pm BROKEN RULES: PRIVATE TALKS W/TALI & VYK--I DIDN'T DESERVE TO WIN. KEARIE ----------------------------------------------- Monday, October 23, 2000 - 05:05 am LUKE & MOON WIN KUDOS FOR SHOWING US THE NAKED TRUTH |
Norwican | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:49 pm  You made my point Whit. Since the private messaging was already discussed in "the house" it appears to me that her only reason for mentioning Vykin and Tali on the banner was "sour grapes"... and if she felt so strongly about it she should have started a conversation in the house prior to her quitting... even if Vykin refused to discuss it with her... she could have let the other BG's know her reasoning. |
Katie | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:55 pm  I think she posted that she started a post At one point I went into the living room and started to write a confrontation to Vyk. I was still fuming about his camera post about the previous night's chat. I got the first paragraph written and changed my mind. (It wasn't a very nice post) I wasn't sure WHEN Host would pull my 'Game Posting Abilities' and didn't want to leave midstream. I also was concerned about my computer doing stupid stuff. Finally, I also had concern about the other BeeGee's and how they would react to what I had to say prior to quitting. I didn't want anyone in the house to know I was quitting prior. Perhaps it was mean and selfish of me, but it was my decision |
Karuuna | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:59 pm  oh, posh. the banners have never been fair. the BG's already knew all about Arreal's and Vyk's scuffle. They thought all that was behind them, that's why they were surprised at her rapid departure. Nor was the private conversing the only reason Kearie left -- she was under continuing fire and decided to hightail it from the battlefield. I think it would be fun to have us OSer's compete for the right to fly banners... Funniest post? Most posts? Longest posts? Most vituperative post? Hmmm.... |
Kearie | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 03:23 pm  "she was under continuing fire and decided to hightail it from the battlefield." Poor, poor Kearie dearie. Had to run like a chicken. Bawk! Bawk! Bawk! People were bashing her on the inside and she had to run. Too much for the mental case to handle. I bet she flipped and and had an emotional breakdown. Hell, I bet she got on the phone and called her shrink right away. Wonder why that doctor didn't lock HER up in a rubber room and throw away the key. And then, the nerve of that chicken sh*t, she won't even come into the discussion threads where the real bashing is. See how chicken she is. All you lame supporters of Kearie's...don't you feel stupid now. Kearie is just a pitiful, whining, won't stand up for anything, nut case. No wonder why she runs from the game and us. <Rolling eyes> Gawd! What a chicken! |
Katie | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 03:31 pm  LOL!!!!! WTG! |
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