Vykin: Questions Asked.......Questions Answered

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Vykin

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 12:23 am Click here to edit this post
Host has kindly posted the chat transcript under the Message Board for us inmates. Including my reward of 5 extra minutes. I have set up this folder in complete honesty and truth, I believe you, my housemates, especially the 4 of you left, need to have the opportunity.

I will answer any questions put forward to me and answer in the most honest and direct way that I can. Do not think any question is too tough, I will answer all - so I invite you to post.

Roger_Ramjet

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 12:24 am Click here to edit this post
Vyk---mention the one topic you told me that was off limits----we should all know that one so we don't accidently go where you want untouched.

Vykin

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 12:31 am Click here to edit this post
Oh sorry, Roger, I was referring to the Arreal questions, but yes, NOTHING is off limits, except what Roger referred to. The only thing I won't discuss on these boards is the reference to one of my secrets for the challenge that is the one about "I once lost a child" (too painful and not related to TheGame)

Roger_Ramjet

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 01:57 am Click here to edit this post
Vyk---one thing that seems to be the case, although I could be missing a lot of information. Maybe not though. From what I've heard from you, Arreal, and Gail while in here, it seems that Host has known about whatever happened.

I personally didn't want Arreal to walk, just as I would not have wanted anyone to walk. Such issues are taken care of by a number of conditions in place...1) our voting, 2) the outside folks voting, and 3) Hots/Interrogator ability to intervene when they feel the need.

Having said that, from my perspective, for wahtever happened, I think could have/would have/will be taken care of.

My philosophy about chatting with each other or other folks. Personally I don't care who talks to who if the game isn't a factor in the conversation. This isn't real life where we can be placed in an actual house and kept away from everything. We have lives to deal with...relatives and friends with life threatening news, kids that have so much going on, work, etc. These things can just as easily get in the way of the game.

Host has to trust us to a certain level to begin with. If we come in here to screw with the game, we're going to find a way to do it without getting to contact other people.

If it's not possible to keep people from communicating (and let's face it--it's not possible), don't make a rule that can't be enforced.

With all that said, I don't have any questions for you at this time. I wish Arreal was here, becuase I wouldn't have any questions for her either. If anyone should be gone for knwon communication, it would have been taken care of long before now. All this is MHO

Vykin

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 05:53 am Click here to edit this post
thank you roger

Vykin

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:11 am Click here to edit this post
HouseGuests: I said I am willing to share everything. The following is an email I found that Arreal sent to me. I had forgotten about it. I can only ask if Arreal had sent this to me back on October 8th, I wonder how many of these emails she was getting on a daily basis. She cannot say they were unsolocited because the email starts out "To answer your questions". I only wish I had remembered this email or I would have posted it a lot sooner when ArReal was in the room. Its from someone called Lafatme.

<< Subj: Re: Hey guys
Date: 10/8/00 1:47:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Lafatme
To: A******4u

hi hon,

nice to hear from you!

to answer your questions: xenia seems to be one of the least popular("hater"), moon is popular. vyk is also popular. mantastic is being dissed for absence-("slacker")

admin told about the pic, no one has posted any negative comments about it. mostly things like "is that real? i wanna meet her"
somebody claims to have "pitched a tent" when viewing your self portrait!

you, moon, vyk, & roger seem to be liked. you have the second most fanmail to moon right now (her pic is popular), vyk is third. i think moon may have lost a few points for whining about not getting recognition in the plane challenge, but maybe not.

quite a few comments about xenia being anti-christian, not sure why.

also, your story about ex-hubby and your death penalty take are both well received. people like that you are honest and passionate about your views. btw, i wholeheartedly agree with your DP take. there has been concern expressed that you may later regret your honesty-folks are concerned about you-that's good.

the BGs who i have not mentioned have little attention so far. i don't think we've heard enough from them to form an opinion yet.

i hope this helps a little. i miss you, although it is nice to email you but i miss you posting on the board. in the meantime, i check the playroom often to see what you're up to. you're doing good, i'm proud of you

Himay10ns

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 08:46 am Click here to edit this post
Damn, that really pisses me off!!

Vykin

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 02:39 pm Click here to edit this post
My current in house friends, as I said, I will share everything with you. This includes my RedRoom Interrogation. Gator really had me in forever. Preamble: During the Arreal/Tali/Vykin Dragged in Crisis, I had somethings I could have said that occurred. I held them back because no matter how angry I was at Arreal for disrupting this house. I wasn't going to try better "my case". I feel comfortable in sharing somethings with you now.
You've most likely read the Chat Transcripts Host posted. There are 3 emails I will post in 3 separate parts, they will appear in reverse from the latest to the earliest (last nite)

Vykin

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 02:41 pm Click here to edit this post
As "Al" on Letterman would say: LETTER NUMBER
ONE:

Subj: Re: Your Second Set of Questions - RedRoom Response
Date: 10/25/00 11:45:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: interrogator01@hotmail.com (The Interrogator)
To: E******@aol.com

Vykin;

Thanks for the quick, and detailed reply. I will post it in the Red Room
area ASAP, so your side of this can be made public. You are free to discuss
anything you and I talked about with the other BG's.

On behalf of myself, and I am sure Host will back it up, please pass on my
apologies to your friend who was harassed by some of these ... people. It is
things like that which give the 'net a bad name.

If you have anything else on the matter which you would like to say through
the Red Room, or any other matter, please feel free to email me. Conversely,
if I have any other questions be assured I will ask them.

The Interrogato

Vykin

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 02:43 pm Click here to edit this post
LETTER NUMBER TWO:

Subj: Your Second Set of Questions - RedRoom Response
Date: 10/25/00 9:57:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: E*****@aol.com
To: interrogator01@hotmail.com

Good Evening Vykin; - Good evening now morning to you Gato, wow "privilege you beckon me twice in one nite! (Are you out of cigarettes?)

You have already received the general email about the chat sent to all the
Board Guest's. However, you also received an additional 5 minutes of fame
because you won a challenge. There are some questions left unanswered during
that chat. Okay Gato, I said I am willing to answer any question.

As I asked during the chat, you have been accused of cheating not only
through IM, but also by getting information from friends, your "advisors".
How do you respond to that?

Who coined the word "cheating" are you referring to the question about the NY Times article? I emphatically state, "I am not cheating" Gator I have set up
a folder in the Discussions to answer any and all questiions my housemates may have. I am also including any emails I may have received. I have nothing to hide.

NYTimes article was emailed to me by a BB chat friend, innocently. It was the only email I received, aside from Arreal, about the Game. It came in the first week of the game before Host clarified emails. This was a new friend registered who told me they wanted to support me before I became sequestered. In that first week, while Arreal and I were just IMing, - when most of my IMs asked about website technical stuff, i.e. how to do clipart etc. My friend inadvertently emailed me about the NYTimes article, I assume now, which was posted on the public side of the boards.
I got "sucked" in. (Hell I even phoned my real world friends and told them - they thought I was nuts!). Just as I got the email, Arreal coincidently, IMd me. I told her apparently "we've made the NYTimes", so we both talked about that.
Shortly afterward I came to my senses. I emailed my friend and said: "Are you sure its not a Hoax?", I also referred that it "smells" of the false news articles the BigBrother ppls got in tennis balls. My friend responded, they felt it was real, cuz someone named Ocean had posted it. I said, I'm gonna search NYTimes (I am a registered user with them) and see if I can find it. They said they wud also search.
I searched found nothing. Only other email I got about that was a one liner from my friend: "Its a Hoax, even the Host got taken". Not long after, a banner flew in the house about NY Times article. By then I knew its likely a hoax and I posted that. End of Story.

Second Part: the "advisors", in all my online discussion groups, since 7 years ago, we have this "rapport", when the situation calls for we call ourselves different things. It keeps the humor in our chats. The term, "advisors" is reference to friends, we've also used words such as "doctors" (this was new "invention") coined after BigBrother was over, my new group of friends from BigBrother Chats, wanted to stay in contact. To do so, we created a private chat room Called BBB Therapy this is simply a place for all of us to go and commiserate about how we miss BigBrother.
so, we would always say, I need to go visit the doctor, I need therapy. That is our way of saying, "lets go chat about anything", we are bored". Heck we even have one guy who goes and chats about his flower gardens! I have other friends with other chatrooms where a bunch of us go for privacy to talk about Politics, Also about JonBenet, Martha Moxley. My oldest discussion group is called ProJayers, it refers to stragglers from the OJ trial (sorry gato we still despise the man). We use private chats because AOL has a lot of perverts and lurkers stalking the public chat rooms, who spam alot.


You mentioned that a friend was threatened after the IM's with ArReal.
Please elaborate.

Certainly Gato, Let me put this into perspective. This question correlates to the one about me pulling out of the game. When Arreal went ahead with exposing Tali, she had first IMd me because I came into LR int the middle of some discussion btwn her and Roger and she said, "Vykin, tell roger the secret, tell him tell him". I had no idea what she referred to, I hadn't read the previous converse btwn her and Roger. I posted, "What secret?"
I honestly didn't understand, then I saw Tali enter the Livingroom and saw something about "someone's head under water", Regardless, I thought Arreal was just playing a game, so I played along, posting a "fake" story about seeing tali go into the church the nite before. I think Arreal got angry, she then IMd me, she said something to effect of, "You have to help me, I want to set Tali up and expose her, the Host is not listening to my emails". It was then, I realized Arreals reference to a "secret" meant exposing Tali. I responded, "Arreal, I have told you a number of times, I'm not gonna question what the Host decides. I don't know anyone here." I also said, "Arreal, if you want Tali's role out in the open, then you have to deal with Tali and get her to tell the other housemates" I think I even posted something to that effect when I saw Arreal start LR posts calling me a liar or hiding something.


Kearie mentioned in the chat that you promised to back her against Talisker,
but withdrew your support. How do you respond?

This is a flat outright lie! I have NEVER promised her anything like that, in fact,
I told her she should ask Tali to reveal her role it was not my place to do so, but Tali's. Arreal was getting more angry at me, she couldn't resist, she twisted things to Roger, and pulled him into her devious plot. To the extent that he went to Challenge area and posted a ton of questions about me. Wondering if I too am a Mole, etc. (it's all on record)

Shortly after all this began to unfold, I think the next day, I get a frantic email from my friend who said, "What's going on??? someone just IMd my husbands screenname and made threats against you!" I thought "What the Hell? " . My friend was worried didn't know how the screenname had been found. Then I remembered - when before the game started, I doubleclicked on the user names and some had email addresses. I said to my friend, "Go to the site and check your user name, you may have put your email address in the Profile portion of registration". Yes, my friend had done that thinking it is private, not realizing anyone can click and see it. Especially people familiar with TVClubhouse. I asked who the person was that IMd my friend. I was told someone named SARA. I then remembered in one previous converse with Arreal that she had referred to a friend on the outside boards called "Sara". Gato, I didn't fall off the turnip wagon yesterday!! With all the other weird IMs from Arreal taunting me. I got angry. I also knew that only AOL members know that they can IM to a screenname that is also an email address and Arreal is an AOL member who would also know this.

This "Sara" person, said something to effect of, "We are gonna get or nail Vykin, ....There is a Mole in your group of friends". (I think there was more). I was LIVID, I almost pulled out of the Game. Call me what you want, hate me in the posts on the outside, hate me in posts on the inside. BUT NEVER ATTACK MY FRIENDS, USING EMAILS, IMS, ETC.

Some feel that you should pull out of the game, as ArReal did, because of
the IM cheating. How do you respond?

Gator, How am I cheating?
The Host has responded clearly & concisely about the use of emails & IMs. I even posted somewhere that Host clarify the use of emails/IMs. I believe Host re-stated the Rules and said he can't stop it and its not part of the official rules.... However, I immediately stopped when I saw there was confusion about use of emails/IMs. I also sent emails to anyone and everyone on my mail list not to refer to the game. This was during the escalating conflict btwn Arreal & Me. However, Arreal STILL tried to contact me via IM at least 3 times, The first time, I responded, "Arreal please do not attempt to contact me anymore via IM or email, I am complying with the Host's request".
This may have angered her, because then her next two IMs were "Vykin - Remember : Cut & Paste, He He He", "You are a liar, i'm exposing you" - this implied that she was threatening me with something. I didn't respond. During this same period of time, a number of other things occurred almost simultaneously.
1. I received an email from a friend, who I think may have posted on the outside
boards, very confused and worried because someone named Sara had IMd
2. Shortly thereafter, in the chatroom Friday nite, I saw a full screenname of
another friend, I thought it was odd, because before the game started (this
person, (who by the way, is 59year old female, breastcancer survivor, and I
met during BigBrother) I had told Arreal about cuz she had asked me
a question about someone named muzzy , cuz I had referred to muzzy
in an internet camera address one night. I said, "Oh you mean,
muzzyg***" Arreal was the ONLY person who knew muzzy's full
screen name. Muzzygra** kept disrupting the chat. I recognized the name,
if I recall, I asked muzzy to stop more than once, 2 or 3 times, the Host
also asked this person to stop disrupting. I couldn't understand, that was
totally out of character for the muzzy that I knew. Then I remembered , during
BB Days that going into a chat you can use any name u want, it
doesn't have to be your clubhouse user name. I thought with all the other
weird stuff perhaps someone impersonated my friend, I don't know if its true. I even thought for a brief moment that Arreal could be impersonating Muzz,
I don't know if its true, but Arreal had missed two chatroom discussion during
the Tali explosion, and was fighting with me on the boards.

Now regarding your question about pulling out and IM cheating. Arreal refers to everything BEFORE Host clarified for us. It wasn't in the rules not to IM, I was new to the Game, still stumbling around. If people feel that constitutes cheating, the question I ask is: Why haven't they requested that the Host pull me out? It's been more than two weeks. To pull out is to "cave in" to my Haters. I feel they've probably destroyed me enough. What do they want from me? I am sure they have the Host's email address to formally request that I be pulled for what they see as "cheating".

Is there anything else on the subject that you wish to say?

Yes, one final thing, Any of my friends I've referred to I am absolutely willing to email the Host with their emails to verify whether my response is accurate. I will not reveal them here because, my friends, IF I HAVE ANY LEFT, don't deserve any further spamming or threats. But if the Host requests I will comply.

Also, I will be posting some questions that I would have asked Arreal if she was on the hotseat in chatroom last night, and I was the outsider wondering about her character.

I posted a letter I found that Arreal had sent me. Last night, I decided to do a search of my emails to see if there was anything that could back me up and I found the letter. To tell the truth I dont even remember receiving it. At the time I was getting so much email and IMs from ArReal that I don't even recall receiving it or what prompted her to send the email to me.

Finally, what more can I say to those people on the outside who are my "Haters"?
Do they want me to take a Lie Detector Test??? Or do they want to Impeach me?

Okay Gator, I have work to do. Have a good one! Thanx for the coffee!

As always it is your perogative to answer or not answer these questions.

The Interrogator

Vykin

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 02:45 pm Click here to edit this post
Letter Number Three (From last Nite)

Subj: RedRoom Re Chat With Zeb
Date: 10/24/00 11:29:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: E*****@aol.com
To: interrogator01@hotmail.com

Hey Gator, Sorry I didn't send redroom yesterday, I got caught up in the truth or dare, and time ran away. Personally GatorAidMan I was glad we got that reward. I have missed Zeb in the house because he would always set up discussion folders. He always had thought provoking ideas. I enjoy that. Seeing Zeb in the chatroom was like seeing a long lost friend. I hoped I would see Xenias name in the crowd but I didn't. Zeb did a great job.

I was worried about the conflict with Arreal. Then she sent the banner, she didn't deserve to win? I couldn't understand what she meant. Then Roger asked Host to tell us why she left, and no response.

Gatester, I had a continous run in with Arreal. I suspected she left because of me to the extent she realized the whole truth was going to come out if the conflict escalated even more. I had almost reached the point where I was going to post a very detailed account of the background of her IMs to me and the detail of what she had asked me to do. I felt confident that once the other guests knew exactly what went down, the questions would stop.

The problem was I'd seen questions raised about me before and I rode them out, thinking its best not to answer them. I probably should have been more open - concerning the truth of Arreal's IMs to me. Angry words had exchanged btwn us these past few weeks.

I really felt she would take her vengeance out on me on the outside, which I wouldn't see and couldn't defend. So, since she left on Sunday, and Host didn't give reasons like he did with Mantastic I felt I had to ask.
Unfortunately from the questions in the chatroom, my suspicions were confirmed to some extent.

Gator, this game is really stressful, I am not immune to feeling the stress transgress into my real world.

Okay later gator, if I have "vascilated" I'm sorry buddy, but her sudden departure did impact me.