Archive through October 13, 2000

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Norequerdo

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:46 pm Click here to edit this post
Wouldn't it be hysterical if this was really the game and the last poster to remain wins!!!! Now that is an idea.

Lafatme

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:49 pm Click here to edit this post
was, according to the answer in the questions section of the game vykin is more than one person!

that isn't breaking the rules? i don't get it.

Kpritch

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Laf, you've stated:

there is a lot of support for vyk, compared to other BGs. my curiosity is where it's coming from?

read vyks internet cam posts. they are not directed to us, they are directed to "insiders" who are they?

are you saying that you, and others, just came here to support vyk? i understand that's possible. i also question if vyk is not someone the majority know of under another name and if some of his supporters fall into that category as well. nothing specific, just questions at this point.

My answers:
I can only answer for myself here. Other Vykin supporters can jump in at anytime. Again, I know Vykin from the AOL BB chatrooms. During the time BB was on, there were a few of us that got along well. That's where the "prez" thing comes in about Vykin. If you look on Vykin's website, you'll see the people that I'm referring to. I'm on there as KP...having fun. Once again, the "Insiders" are the group of people that know Vykin from the BB chatrooms and some of them are posting on the game discussion boards, and others are probably lurking.

Karuuna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Kpritch -- well if you know Vykin so well, perhaps you can explain the answer in the challenge area, the question is whether vykin is more than one person, and the answer is yes. Can you fill us in?

Noslonna - I agree, and this just keeps getting "fuzzier", doesn't it? I find it all just a tad amusing.

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:03 pm Click here to edit this post
But WHO is Vykin?? He is more then one person!!
How can that be and why and who??

Norequerdo

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:04 pm Click here to edit this post
check out challenge board in the game area and click on questions, they talk about who Vykin is. I dont understand one of the questions about more than one person. very strange.

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:07 pm Click here to edit this post
Well if Vykin is more then one person how is that arranged? Has to be done with moderator help or is a moderator or more then one of them! If that is true then that is cheating because moderators are coming here and isn't it unfair for one person to have to play again more then one person as one.

Kpritch

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Kar, I honestly do not know about that. As far as I know, Vykin is one person playing, and one person only. None of the other game player's post like Vykin, so I am now wondering if the Host stated "yes" to that question to throw the players into more of a tizzy. ------>I'm heading back to my confused couch until the Host clears this mess up.

Norequerdo

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:11 pm Click here to edit this post
me too. Doesn't seem like Vykin would be two people. Didnt the host say you couldnt be two people at the same time in the game? Seems to me the host has to clarify that whole thing.

Vasix

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:11 pm Click here to edit this post
Lafatme: I'm touched! You mentioned me. That's the greatest thing that's happened to me since I've been paroled. WHOHHHHHOOOOO. And yes my name spelled backwards is still imposible to pronounce. You bet I'm a new poster to this site. Found it the last week of BB where I met 442 people. I would have had a higher number but I ran out of room on the wall to write them down. Thanks for being suspicious of me. My PO told me everyone on the outside would be suspicious of me.

Wcv63

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:12 pm Click here to edit this post
Vykin asked host to clarify that answer as he obviously does not agree. This was in the Requests thread. So let's see if a clarification takes place.

Kpritch

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Hey Vas and Was! Welcome to the folder of confusion and paranoia. Pull up a chair by me to wait for the Host to come clean.

Nor, you're more than welcome to join us.

Lafatme

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:30 pm Click here to edit this post
vas, no, not suspicious of you at all. i just questioned why vyk "hid" your name in a post, so i guess i'm, suspicious of vyk.

i have no problem with you at all. i don't have aproblem with any vyk supporters. i just want to know what's going on.

if people are new to this board because they came here to support vykin/optics, welcome, nothing wrong with that.

i was curious where all the support came from since optics only posted on this board twice before going into the game.

would like to also how vykin/optics, being a relative newcomer, had arreal's screename on aol also. perhaps he is psychic?

Kpritch

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Laf, I don't know how Vykin and ArReal know each other, but then, I don't know what ArReal's AOL screen name is either. Perhaps they know each other from the BB chatrooms?

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 02:56 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't have AOL and I don't know anything about it but if you had her email address couldn't you do a search on AOL for her??

Nadi

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Regarding Vykin being more than one person; well technically he is, as are all the BG's. He's Vykin/Optics just as Xenia is Xenia/Wendy. The question was worded poorly. I don't think anyone should condemn him based on that question.

Lafatme

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:09 pm Click here to edit this post
yes katie you could. but i still ask how gail or vyk or arreal had each others aol addresses.

i guess gail emailed kearie prior to the game so that mystery is solved. how did she know vyk/optics? how did he then know kearie's?

i'm no genius but i know when information is being kept from me.

Karuuna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:19 pm Click here to edit this post
AOL screen names and Email addresses are the same, so if you have one, you have the other.

The most plausible theory about how they got each other's screen names that I can come up with is that the TaliGail Mole had them both, and then once Arreal and Vyk had joined her in the private chat room they would obviously have each other's. Just a guess.

Whit4you

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Well no because according to the three of them the way Gail hooked up with ArReal to have a private chat, is because ArReal was in IMs (private messages) ALREADY at the time with Vykin. How did Vykin get her AOL screenname? And why was he messaging her in the first place? He claims technical things, she claims they were discussing alliances, and banishments etc. (He didn't deny her claim)

Gail spent dozens of hours posting live feeds she clearly understood that we (the audience) wanted to see/here all that went on amongst the sequestered guests in the BB house. She seems to be acting like the whole issue here is ArReal confiding to the rest of us something she did "behind our backs"

ArReal agreed to be sequestered, it's obvious her having inside info the other guests didn't have was bothering her a great deal. It's obvious to me that Gail should not blame her for choosing to 'come clean' and let the rest of us know about their secret chat.

I honestly believe that she will be able to see all this clearly once she is out of "the game" - at least that's my hope, till then I am withholding judgement of her. If once she gets out and thinks this entire thing over, she still thinks that ArReal was the one in the wrong - then my opinion of her will be clear.

Gail just doesn't get it - she wanted to be a nobody there, so that everything would be equal. And it was and it was fine. However the day she started enticing people into breaking the rules, and telling them secret things and expecting them to be a part of that - she changed the whole game.

Well, I hope when this game is all over with - nobody will come out of it not having gained in a possitive way. Even Gail, even if she doesn't conceed in the end that she was in the wrong, for breaking the rules and blaming ArReal etc.

Whit

Karuuna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:35 pm Click here to edit this post
Whit - I do agree that if Gail/Tali posted here after the start of the game, she ought to be disqualified. Anyone know where and what she posted? (I don't know her previous name so I can't search for it).

Also, while it's not specifically in the rules of the game that the BGs can't speak in other areas (IM, other chats, etc), it does seem to be a violation of what everyone expected. In other words, if the rules are read exactly, it's not against the letter of the law, but it is against the spirit of it. I think that disqualification of the three who admitted that behavior might be considered because of that as well. However since at least one of those three, Vykin, has pointed out that it wasn't specifically stated that way in the rules perhaps some leniency is in order. The host has now clarified his intent, and all future outside conversations should be banned. JMO

Whit4you

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:49 pm Click here to edit this post
I've read/ and re-read the rules of this game. It states in the game that they are to be sequestered. It also states that they are not to chat "in the chat room" unless told to by the host. I am sure that the intent could be disputed (for sure it would be thrown out in court of law - thank god this game is only for a cd player and not a really major prize)

BUT the point I've continually made is that if Tali wasn't aware in the beginning of what the rules meant, she certainly was when she tried to get Roger to go private with her and he repeatedly refused to and made it clear it was against the rules. Ok? If she didn't know it was against the rules then why didn't she disagree with Roger's assesment that it was? I guess I am also being a little judgemental here though, let me fess up and be honest perhaps (she deserves it) ok IF she really thought it was wrong and totally unethical etc, then why would she have mentioned IN the chat room with all of us her trying to lure Roger to a private chat. (Ok that's said, I believe in being fair - but I don't think I have to say it again - because I think as a live-feed-poster on the BB board she SHOULD have known clearly how we'd all feel if they were having a buncha chats WE couldn't hear)

Whit

Lafatme

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:56 pm Click here to edit this post
karunna, gails board name was gail. she posted outside on 10/8 regarding live feeds. in the post she mentioned being out of town for a few days.

if she could access to post then she could also be reading-not fair!

Karuuna

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:12 pm Click here to edit this post
Whit -- you make good arguments, I think they're valid. I think most folks thought the intent was to have no outside conversation. I didn't see the convo with Tali/Roger and any way I look at it from what little I've read, it doesn't quite make sense. Maybe she was role-playing at the time, or who knows? Curiouser and curiouser...

Laf -- well that throws me. Gail specifically stated in her "Tali speaks out" thread that she had not visited the boards in any way. Perhaps that info ought to be reported to Host, for an executive decision?

Lafatme

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:14 pm Click here to edit this post
i think my posts have already reported it, i'm waiting for an executive decision, and explanation now.

Katie

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 04:18 pm Click here to edit this post
And why Gail is in the game after being the one to tell Kearie that moderators couldn't play in the game?