Archive through October 20, 2000

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Yankee_In_Ca

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 09:19 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm sorta hesitant to post here because I have only been casually observing the game. But I have noticed Xenia repeatedly calling Zebulon a woman abuser, and I'm a little confused. Now, if there's some concrete reason for this accusation, could someone clue me in?

All I can figure out is that by some of his posts she thinks he is passive/aggressive. But where does that translate into Woman Abuser?

I've noticed when she says it, no one (including Roger) responds, so I'm wondering if there is something more concrete that I've missed. Was this brought up by Zeb or others in a different thread, and is Xenia just commenting on something that has been said in the past? Did I miss something?

If NOT, I have to admit that I find this accusation very disturbing.

I have no problem with Xenia's stated desire to "rile things up" -- I find many of her posts entertaining and enlightening and have nothing against her; HOWEVER, I'm concerned that this type of accusation is being made. It seems quite serious to me.

Am I missing something?

Katie

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 09:29 pm Click here to edit this post
The only connection I see is that abusive men are usually passive agressive but just because a man is passive agressive it doesn't make him abusive. I don't understand what she is saying or why.

Chatman

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 09:30 pm Click here to edit this post
Xenia is just out to fight with someone. She used to fight with Vykin but now that's over so she's started on Zeb. The Internet Camera is full of fights tonight. Vykin & ArReal are going at it, and Xenia and Zeb. Getting interesting in there now. Hope it continues.

Tvfan

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 09:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Any truth to what Xenia posted or is this spin?


WOW!

Xeb has really got his shit in a knot today!

I personally think he needs to chill out and focus on much more important things. For example, since he's floating around here trying to impress any woman he can (Gail and Moon for starters) probably because he wants to replace what's-her-name--the chick who woke and realized what a twit he was and moved to get away from him.

And if he's going to be doing that, then we should be telling about all the RESTRAINING ORDERS past girlfriends have taken out on him. I think women who get involved with Zeb have the right to know.

Then again, didn't he say something about living in Texas? How hard would it be to find out his true identity--all his personal info--and do some digging myself?

Look how upset and angry he gets. Don't you think this guy is dangerous?

I'll start by finding out his ISP and work from there. And an e-mail address wouldn't hurt. All those hours I read about hacking and social engineering are going to pay off.

That's the evil of the Internet--you're never truly anonymous.

I'll keep everyone updated.

Zeb will never hurt another woman again.

Wcv63

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 09:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Xenia doesn't like Zeb and is doing her very best to yank his chain. This is a little overboard though.

There is absolutely nothing posted within the confines of the game that would lead me to believe that Zeb is abusive.

Yankee_In_Ca

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 09:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Yanking someone's chain is one thing.

Calling someone a woman abuser is another.

Again, I have no problem with her stirring up trouble, but this seems to be to be a serious accusation, whether or not she's actually serious.

Sorry, but it bugs me...

Wcv63

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 10:02 pm Click here to edit this post
This will probably answer your question. From Xenia's latest red room visit:

Do I really think Zeb is an abuser? I highly doubt he is. But I am enjoying getting under his skin.

But for the record, passive/aggressive men do make me uncomfortable and I do see Zeb as being one. At least with me, you can pretty much predict how I
will react in any given situation. With someone like him, you just never know. That is scary.

Adven39

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 10:08 pm Click here to edit this post
I usually put in the ear plugs and turn down the volume whenever Xenia bleats, but if she is actually accusing Zeb of being passive/aggressive and an abuser of women based on her assessment of his personality, then she is even more inane and mindless than I thought was possible. Although I know her extensive experience as a telephone psychic makes her particularly qualified to speak on the subject, I am surprised her usual understated professionalism hasn't won over her desire to play pop psychologist.

Sandyc

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 11:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Don't forget she also was a telephone sex talker.
I read that somewhere. Maybe she dislikes all men. And pretty soon it will be Roger's turn. The poor man will probably just duck and run.

And I'm the pop psychologist in the group. Only because I couldn't be a policeman.

Roger must have seen something on these threads about what we think of Xenia's bitchiness. Is he going to tell her? I think not, but we will see.

Digilady

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 12:03 am Click here to edit this post
And this from an Xenia supporter.

Is it just me, or did she rather distinctly threaten to stalk him? Hack him, call the police, the whole 9?

I just read where Xenia is just yanking Zeb's chain, as usual (right as I am posting this!)

Even if she is =playing= at the stalking thing, I don't appreciate that part of the convo. Had it been a man writing that, all h*ll would have broken loose.

I like the spark and the entertainment as I have mentioned. But is there not a line somewhere? And if there is, did she cross it?

Guruchaz

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 12:12 am Click here to edit this post
Zeb's not a woman abuser. Xenia is just pressing buttons. Zeb talked about his last long term relationship yesterday and Xenia is twisting it and saying he was dumped and all that. She's probably the one who's been repeatedly dumped. I couldn't imagine why.

He did write a funny limerick about her in the Discussion room. LOL!

Guruchaz

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 12:27 am Click here to edit this post
On another note, I bet TuKuuL will press Xenia's (or whoever she is) buttons when they are back out here. You watch.

Guruchaz

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 12:38 am Click here to edit this post
LOL! Here's the rest of the conversation that was posted above:

Zebulon
Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 10:17 pm

Xenia, don't be such a drama queen. You have no idea who I am. You don't take time from your ranting to find out.

Xenia
Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 10:22 pm

Zeb: Stop this anger. You're starting to really scare me. Please don't take your rage against me out on an innocent woman. That is what I most fear--that when you're away from your computer you find an unsuspecting woman to hurt. I will call the police, Zeb. If you continue
to let this get out of hand, for the safety of all women, I will call the police.

Please stop verbally abusing me. Please leave this thread.

Zebulon
Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 10:26 pm

<the curtain falls as the crowd cheers>

oops...no crowd

Xenia
Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 10:42 pm

Thank you. I appreciate that you can take a step back from your rage to consider my feelings and respect my boundaries. You truly do frighten me and when you attack me I feel vulnerable and unsafe (even if it is just on the Web). I hope one day you can embrace you anger and your pain and come to terms with it. I have a feeling there's a loving person deep inside of you. But the monster who hates women and wants them all to suffer keeps the loving Zeb at bay. Please get help. PLEASE.

Zebulon
Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 10:51 pm

Xenia,

Suzanne and I still keep in touch. I doubt that would happen if I was the person you said I was. Get help yourself. I'm so over you.

Vykin
Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 11:14 pm

(slips another note,: Xenia, I knew eventually I would infiltrate your real life! Canadian Tire, the locals in my area call it: Czechoslovakian Tire)
p.s. I didn't know you are living in my country - how did you sneak by immigration?)

Zebulon
Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 11:24 pm

I guess they don't search livestock trucks.

Nadi

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 04:48 am Click here to edit this post
What's wrong with you people???!!! Xenia is just being her usual sarcastic, interesting self. She is just having fun.

First she posts about fantasizing about raping Vykin; now she accuses Zeb of being an abuser of women. That's hysterical! Please don't vote her out of the house! We need her wit and controversy in there.

Now excuse me while I go throw up.

Echo

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 05:50 am Click here to edit this post
OMG...Tvfan....you cannot be serious about hacking into someone's computer. When people come here to TVFC, we come here to enjoy this great site, but we do not come here to feel insecure about the fellow members here maybe trying to hack our computers. Is anyone as outraged by Tvfans post as I am?

Adven39

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 05:58 am Click here to edit this post
Yes, Echo, I am. But I think it falls into the "yanking our chain" category. If it isn't, then I think Admin should take a closer look at Tvfan's membership.

Echo

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 06:01 am Click here to edit this post
I agree totally with your statement Adven39. If it is true it is a total breach of trust for us here at TVFC.

Misslibra

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 06:15 am Click here to edit this post
TVFC, is quoting what Xenia said to Zeb. You guys misunderstood the statment.

TVFC, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Adven39

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 06:23 am Click here to edit this post
You may be right, Misslibra, and if so, I apologize to Tvfan. If this is the case, Xenia's membership should be examined.

Kpritch

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 06:53 am Click here to edit this post
Tvfan posted what Xenia posted. It's on the Internet Camera from 8:52 p.m. last night. Pushing Zeb's buttons is one thing, but talking about tracking him down and stating that he abuses woman is pathetic. She has crossed the line, imo.

Azriel1104

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 06:56 am Click here to edit this post
Xenia must have spent too much time in the clothline thread before the Game started.

I think it's ironic that she is just as, if not more, verbally aggressive as Zeb. She is afraid of him? Damn, she scares the hell out of me!

She is going to get a vote from me soon if she doesn't chill on this thread. I can't stand to see a person get trashed on the basis of some idiot psycho-babble.

Tvfan

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 08:04 am Click here to edit this post
Adven and Echo: My post was an exact quote of Xenia's taken from the internet cam folder. Xenia is a psycho stalker/hacker wannabe, not I. Misslibra and KPritch, thank you for attempting to set the record straight.

Affinity

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 08:06 am Click here to edit this post
I think I would be terribly offended if someone called me a woman abuser based on my personality. Its a very harsh term and to think someone thinks that way of you is just upsetting. Its not something to joke around with, this stuff DOES happen. Why can't Xenia just play nice?

Vasix

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 08:09 am Click here to edit this post
Azriel: "idiot psycho-babble" is Xostile's world. Its her job (if she really is a pschic hotline worker) and it apparently is her game style. I can't imagine her being fascinated with good literature and wanting to be a writer or photojournalist or whatever. She seems more destined to be a bitter old person who collects cats and talks back to the voices. Hopefully when she gets out she'll revert back to sparky and snarky and get off the inane and insane jag she is on. But whatever: somewhere there is a man for her. And as soon as he gets out of lock-up, they'll meet...I'm betting that guy ain't Zeb!

Wcv63

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 08:36 am Click here to edit this post
I think Xenia is playing up the poor scared female role because Zeb called her a drama queen.

I agree that the abuser accuser should not be so loose and flippant with what is a very serious situation. Domestic voilence is an insidieous and dangerous problem. Some of the mildest mannered people have the capability to abuse.