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Elitist

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 12:52 pm Click here to edit this post
Ruu - I think the softly but firmly was just his spin doctors take on his life.

I agree he was somewhat the pacifist. Look at the violence surrounding him (stonings, Peter going after the soldier, etc.) that he pretty much kept out of. But was he doing this out of an innate nature or to prove a point?

Karuuna

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 01:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Eli -- first on Hinduism, my take is that it's no more or less violent than many others. The most sacred work the Bhagavad Gita is the story of Krishna (one of the God reincarnations) speaking to the great warrior Arjune on the battlefield. Like Christianity, Hinduism has its many facets -- those who are more warlike in metaphor or thought, and the mystics who are of an entirely different ilk. Ghandi fell on the mystic side.

I do think Jesus fell along the same lines. For the most part, he was passive nonresistance. He said what he thought, but he never raised a hand to anyone (and especially not a weapon) to prove his point. He even healed the soldier, when Peter cut off the soldier's ear in an attempt to protect Jesus.

And finally, everything we know about Jesus didn't come from him anyway. All of it is spin to a certain extent, since they are the memories/stories of other people, not Jesus himself. But my best guess, given the stories since that's all we have, is that he was non-violent out of his nature.

Karuuna

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 01:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Vas -- let me know where you're planted, and I promise to sprinkle you daily with chocolate chip cookie crumbs, as fertilizer! And quit that smoking stuff. Eat chocolate instead! This is the end of your public service announcement.

KarG3

Vasix

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 01:19 pm Click here to edit this post
KarG3, I'm trying to stop the evil weed. Didn't smoke a single puff until I was 25 years old but thats a story for another day. I'm really afraid of trying to quit because I've tried so many times before and couldn't. Failure is tough, repeated failure is debilitating. Paul said, "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." I think it was Paul. Thanks for the cookie crumb fertilizer! I'll be a Casa Blanca lilly when I come back, I plant them under windows. Great scent and they mask the smokey smells!

Karuuna

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 01:31 pm Click here to edit this post
A story for another day, eh? I'd love to hear it, u can Email it if you like. Chemical addictions are rough, aren't they? I can't give up caffeine for anything, and no one would like me much if I did.

Vasix

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 02:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh no! Caffeine counts as an addiction????? Oh I am so screwed.

Karuuna

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 02:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Vas -- I'll pray for you. This is the Jesus thread after all.

Zelda

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 02:17 pm Click here to edit this post
I think he is here already... maybe on the board going under the name........ Guru-Mr. Magoo

Misslibra

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 02:18 pm Click here to edit this post
I think some of us would know him. The very first tip off for me would be, him not asking for money to put into his pocket, disguise as tithes. I know it does take a certain amount of money to run places of worship. But some of these so call Men of God are disgusting.

I don't think he would be on tv performing his miricles, but yes I know some of us would believe him, if he told us who he is. WE would know him by his actions.

And I don't think he would be hanging out in any churches, but would be instead doing his work on the streets, around people some of us wouldn't even go near. And he would be doing this 24/7.


In fact I could see Jesus going in places of worship today, and completely taking them apart. Telling the people, who run them in his name, how they have not been representing him, and his beliefs.

JMHO ... but I could be wrong.

Jesus is

Princessjill

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 02:38 pm Click here to edit this post
wow what a great thread...read revelations if u want to read some scary shit....see how pissed off God is....and you better know the diff between Christ and the anti-Christ in the end....so pay attention

Wcv63

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 02:39 pm Click here to edit this post
I think if he presented himself as Jesus and/or the Jewish Messiah/Savior people the majority would think he was just another cult leader (remember Koresh?) However he quietly and humbly worked his miracles whilst saving souls ala Ghandi...well you get my point.

I know I would have a healthy amount of skeptism for anyone claiming to be Jesus. But I would pray every night asking God to forgive me if he is the real thing. Cover all bets is the name of the game.

Twiggyish

Monday, October 30, 2000 - 05:45 pm Click here to edit this post
Would we think he was the Anti-Christ, or would we accept him?

As to your question, I don't think people change, as each person would draw their own conclusions.

I believe skeptics would doubt, agnostics would question, atheists would deny (he doesn't exist) and fanatics would overwhelm in their zeal.

As to your question, I don't think people change, as each person would draw their own conclusions.

Drdude

Monday, November 06, 2000 - 09:07 am Click here to edit this post
Why do I have that song "WHAT IF GOD WAS ONE OF US" by Joan Osborne in my head?

Misslibra

Monday, November 06, 2000 - 09:20 am Click here to edit this post
Drdude, I like that song too ! What if God was one of us, like a stranger on the bus, just trying to make his way home ... I'll hum the rest.

Sandyc

Monday, November 06, 2000 - 09:18 pm Click here to edit this post
That's because God is one (or more) of us.
hi drdude.

Sandyc

Monday, November 06, 2000 - 09:23 pm Click here to edit this post
Just a note found a couple a thousand years ago somewhere by someone...

"Be Still, and Know That I Am"

and it was signed God.

Drdude

Wednesday, November 08, 2000 - 07:59 am Click here to edit this post
God isn't just in the people who walk the Earth, He is in the animals, the trees, the air we breath....

My question is, why as a civilized people, do we justify our hurting each other and this fragile place we call home? This is not the definition of civilized that I learned as a child. We must all understand that life is precious. I disturbs me to hear how someone could cold heartedly kill someone over property, differences of opinion, and the like. To dump on people because they don't have the same social stature, because they work two jobs to support a family that they love so dearly, to hit an innocent child because his father is angry that the dishes aren't done, to rape a woman because he needs to feel her touch even though she thwarts his advances. Think of all the little children and the legacy that we are leaving behind for them. Can we honestly say that this world that we live in is perfect for the children that we hold so dear in our hearts? And what about God? What about the children who will never know the beauty of the Creater and Giver of Life, because their parents' believe that Cristians and the like think that He doesn't exist? I say, let them know about Him and they will form their own opinions. I am not a devoted Catholic, but by having parents show me a structured religion, I know about morality and the love that I give others, including people that I have never met, because they are living souls. I would never push my beliefs on anyone. I just feel that we should all show compassion for everything and everyone. You don't have to believe in God, you don't have to believe in any organized religion, but you do have to respect yourself and the lives of others. I hope that you all read this in the manner in which it was intended. My respect for you all.

Sandyc

Wednesday, November 08, 2000 - 04:50 pm Click here to edit this post
Thanks Drdude. Well said. We were talking about race relations in Canada and came to some of the same conclusions. For some things we see and hear we just have to have faith that they'll get their just desserts.