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Lafatme

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 12:44 pm Click here to edit this post
spam, i believe she said she had the old version loaded on her old computer. i think that's why she's having problems.

Norequerdo

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 12:47 pm Click here to edit this post
I remember aol bills of $400. Can remember sitting at computer late at night with clock next to it. Good thing those days are over.

I have to wonder too about ArReal's obvious absence from chats. She was in the first chat so what happened? I don't really believe the story. Lets say she is using an older computer (mine is five years old so I dont know what is old these days) She has had plenty of time to download a later version???

Spamgirl

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 12:48 pm Click here to edit this post
OOoohhh I missed that :) 'Cuz you can't download AIM Express for a computer that doesn't support java, and you can't use AIM QuickBuddy on a browser that doesn't support Java... but if she already had it on the computer, that changes things :)

Miss one post by the lady and all hell breaks loose :)

Digilady

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 12:50 pm Click here to edit this post
I thought I read that she was using a 486. I could be wrong.

Spamgirl

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 12:54 pm Click here to edit this post
Nor - she says her computer is 6 years old... even a 6 year old computer can handle win95, which can handle NN4, which can handle java... the only reason I could see for her not being at the chats is because she has a slow modem and can't be bothered... technologically impared? she doesn't really seem like it... all she would have to do is grab a copy of NN4 to be able to chat... you can run AOL browser and NN on the same computer, as far as I know (oh no, did I miss something about that too??? :) )...

Unless she's on a 386 or less, she has the resources to chat... if doesnt have a 386, she doesn't want to chat/can't be bothered figuring out how to chat.. all it would take is a "could someone tell me how to fix up my computer so I can chat?" message on the general board to get her hoards of emails helping her out...

(I'd just like to mention that my computer is 6 years old (a P1) and I run nn4.73, IE5, and win98... so just because she has an old, slow computer, doesn't mean anything...)

Nikkid

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 12:55 pm Click here to edit this post
OMG - I remember the old aol days! Remember when we started quibbeling about them "averaging up" to the nearest minute? Anyone get money back when they lost the suit?

BTW - Got you beat on highest bill. When I first moved out here to the bush, they did not make it clear they were charging an extra $6 per for long distance. OUCH I still owe $500 and it's been about 5 years.

Whit4you

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 12:59 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL Well it was 2.95 an hour for me back then :)

All totalled, I could have gotten $120 back but I never actually sent for the refunds. :)

Whit

Nikkid

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:00 pm Click here to edit this post
Back on topic - as to the computer problems, I would take it with a grain of salt. The explainations her shop has given her (or she has given us) are completely ludicris (sp). I can pull up a point by point description if you would like, but anyone who has handled hardware/software issues can see these as fairy tales.

remember if it's not a hardware or software issue look at the meatware. :) My mentor gave me that quote.

Katie

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok lets try to sort this out. She has two computers. One is 6 or 7 years old. One must be 3 because she said she hadn't used the old one for 3 years which to me means that was when she got the new one. What version of AOL was out then and what version of AIM was available then. As I said I don't know because I refuse to run AOL. She has posted the computer won't let her update so that is what she is running on. What hardware and software was available on a computer 6 or 7 years ago which is probably what it has. Why did she get a new computer? Probably because the old one was very outdated, and didn't work right and wouldn't let her do what she needed to do and she couldn't update it.
Now some people are good at computer and can do computer stuff and some can't. We have all different levels of computer skills and she has posted that she has tried to upgrade and the computer won't let her.

Spamgirl

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:06 pm Click here to edit this post
http://home.netscape.com/download/0927100/10000-en-win16-4.08-base-128_qual.html

That will run on win3.1/486, and will support the chat... doesn't take much space, so that wouldn't be an issue...

Karuuna

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:08 pm Click here to edit this post
Before all this paranoia breaks loose into a full tidal wive, Kearie's story is at least believable to me. I had a friend with an old IBM clone that was about 6-7 years old (I believe it was equivalent to a 486) with a built in 14.4 modem, that we upgraded to W95 and AOL 3.0. It "ran", but it was abysmally slow. Java had to be downloaded as a plug-in, since it wasn't built into AOL at that time, altho AOL Instant Messenger was built in. We did d/l the JAVA plug in, but it was extremely buggy, and crashed the computer most times. There was also the issue of not enough RAM to run AOL with Navigator or Explorer -- combinations that caused lock ups due to memory overloads.

Now, I can't say that ArReal is telling the truth. All I can say is that her story is plausible. I can also see why she might not want to spend money and time upgrading the old computer if she thinks she may get her new one back any day. I'm frugal enough to agree that would be a wise plan of action.

Karuuna

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:09 pm Click here to edit this post
And I too remember the old "pay by the hour" AOL! Could have made a house payment with my monthly bills!

Nikkid

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:13 pm Click here to edit this post
OT Question... What rooms did you hang out in "Back in the Day" Pre-AOL 3.x?
I was always to be found in a general, or... Men Suck! LOL always the coolest place to meet guys - funny and thick skinned.

Katie

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:14 pm Click here to edit this post
If you have the computer skills to know this.
Spamgirl I consider myself fairly computer literate but I have no idea about most of what you are saying. You have above average computer skills and not every one does. Some of us just get on the computer and use it and when something goes wrong we get someone else to fix it because we have no idea what to do. I think she is like that.

Karuuna

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:17 pm Click here to edit this post
Nikkid -- I hung out in the philosophy chats. Mostly people would just tell each other how stupid they were and call each other names (kind of like some of the BeeGees), but every now and then, would find an interesting discussion.

You have now been online for 1,287 minutes.

Norequerdo

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Why couldn't she just download a later version of AOL. I dont get it. I had IM years ago, I remember.

Karuuna

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:32 pm Click here to edit this post
Nor -- there are lots of issues with "older" computers -- d/l time can be up to 2 hours on a 14.4 modem for a newer (and therefore larger) version of AOL. The newer versions take more hard drive space and they require more RAM. Then one needs to be comfortable enough with working with computers to know what/how to upgrade. I don't know anything about the specs on ArReal's computer or what she knows about computers, but I think it's plausible that she could be limited by one or all of the above.

Katie

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:39 pm Click here to edit this post
She posted that she tried to d/l a newer version of AOL and the computer said she didn't have enough space.

Norequerdo

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:42 pm Click here to edit this post
I guess none of us will ever know if her story is true.

Digilady

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:42 pm Click here to edit this post
Not to mention the usual size of an HD with a 486. Mine sure was measly. I have no clue how big the bloatware AO-H*ll has gotten, but she could be out of storage.

If it doesn't have sufficient RAM, that precludes running a lot of stuff together. That IM is what we used to call a TSR... she loads that, the AOL browser, and that could be it for her. Java requires sufficient RAM or it simply won't fire up.

Unless she were to give the specs on her box, this speculation is farting into a windstorm!

She sounds pretty clueless about computers in general. It could simply be massive user error, as Nik wisely suggested.

NOW will y'all go look at the new thread under Game discussions, Challenge to Enb & EnbWife? And leave responses!! Iffen you wants a Game II, that is!!

Chat B*tches/Pr1cks, this involves you as well as everyone who'd like to be a BG in the next game.

Nikkid

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Orders heard over and out (+ how many brownie points?)

Digilady

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 01:54 pm Click here to edit this post
+10.000, evil twin!

(Totally off-topic, but I am stuck doing QA on a load of 10,000 PDFs today. ARGGGGGG)

Nikkid

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 02:00 pm Click here to edit this post
EWW! Hey, is your email up and running? :) Got a question for ya.

Digilady

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 02:09 pm Click here to edit this post
yes indeed!

Fire away.

Sandyc

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 10:20 pm Click here to edit this post
Dililady -- What did you say in english please?

Sandyc

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 10:20 pm Click here to edit this post
Dililady -- What did you say in english please?
Sounds almost as bad as posting live feeds for this game.

Digilady

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 10:28 pm Click here to edit this post
Sorry, Sandy. Just geek speak.

ArReal JUST QUIT!

Sandyc

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 10:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Ya. I saw that. Can't find any info on it anywhere. It happened just after noon didn't it?
Just saw that Roger requested some info too or a chance to meet with ArReal. I hope she's okay and everything in her life is okay. Hope she didn't let all this stuff get to her. Come on in Kearie. We've missed you!