Is a re-cast vote, a changed vote?
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Is a re-cast vote, a changed vote?
Vasix | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 08:59 am  Okay viewers: The votes were cast for the first banishment by a lot of people. Then Neil declares a misfire, and re-sets the vote. How many votes do you think will chang? Will anyone keep their vote the same on principle? And if the vote changes, what caused it? More reading of the posts? More reading what the players said? What Neil said? Whaddya think? Extra credit for effective use of clipart or any amazing poetry. |
Azriel1104 | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 09:35 am  I actually voted for Talisker the first time. I didn't think she was very interesting. ~shrug~ I felt like all she did was try to interject sex and conflict on the board. (It's interesting now that I find out that that is what she was put there to do ~snicker~)I just had an added reason to vote for her again. I have no problem with a Moderator playing the Game. They should enjoy the board and have fun, too. They work hard to keep our board a decent place to meet and interact. I don't doubt that Tali has a basically honest character. I just think she and some of the others made some very stupid mistakes in judgement. We are all human. I don't want to beat this to death. My only concern is that Lisa and Neil feel bad right now. I don't want them to feel that way. This is just one of those stupid things that happens. Lisa, anyone can see that you have worked your butt off on this project. THANK YOU! I enjoyed it before the 'incident' and I will keep enjoying it. I hope this is all a distant memory soon and you and Neil change your mind about The Game II, but I can't blame you if you don't. |
Vasix | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 10:00 am  I voted for Xenia. I just think her comment about raping Vyk was just too much. Even in the confines of an imaginary game. Maybe I'm too old for this kind of wordplay but that imagery and her savageness in saying it displayed a lack of character IMHO. It completely contradicts Xenia's hope for a mate and the type of person she seeks. Perhaps that explains why she isn't with someone, has never been married and lives alone. Perhaps she chooses to hold off on finding a partner as she is wrestling with who she WANTS to be and the anger that defines who she is. She even stated how she hates her past. So she seems to be trying to re-claim her self and her anger is her demon. But even if I give her that much, I still say: fantasy rapists get my vote for banishment. And altho I find it admirable that Vykin lets it drop and lays it off on PMS or the full moon, I still see Xenia as being very hostile and that is not acceptable behavior. I'm going to have a hard time recasting my vote. Sorry Xenia. And I also vote for amnesty and for Neil and Admin. Arreal (who I don't care for at all but that doesn't matter) apologized eloquently for jumping Vykin and he was gracious to all about being jumped so I say: water under the bridge. Play on! |
Digilady | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 10:25 am  Me: I outted Miz Mod. I'm not into lying. Vas: X was =playing=. Remember Eddie and the clothesline incident? X is honest. And loyal to her friends. Protective. Funny. And real, and a gentleness sneaks into her posts when she lets it slip. Again, don't remember the 2nd one... just did it cause I had to (Shit, sound like Jamie! BARF) |
Vasix | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 12:10 pm  digi: respect your respect for your friend Xenia but even in playing, people like Eddie who "joke" about clothelining women and watching them writhe on the floor with bruises on their necks or people like Xenia who "joke" about violent raping of people get my vote for banishment. I'm a funny guy (yes, looks included) but I don't joke about graphic violent assault. Sorry, but Xenia and her angry "humor" doesn't cut it. I'm still leaning towards voting out Xenia for callousness towards victims of sexual assault and generally lack of class. But I'm holding off voting until LATE Sunday if anyone wants to try to sway me. |
Nikkid | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 12:22 pm  Vasix - Another Xenia Supporter here. Also outting myself as a victim as someone else did. That was not callous towards myself - that was a S&M fantasy. If you look at some of us, we would rather have the power then be powerless. I feel closer towards Xenia as she writes - I think she has had a difficult life and is stronger for it. You may not agree, but I'm quite impressed with her. Haha, and I voted out Talisk the first time for using WET as a verb... She just makes me wince. |
Lafatme | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 12:23 pm  i voted for tali the first time, and again the second. the first time because i didn't think she added anything interesting, the second time because she has made some bad decisions wih her subterfuge and refuses to accept any responsibility for her mistakes. |
Bearcatuc | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 01:44 pm  My first vote was for Xenia (I hate conflict and voted for Mega & Jordan when they were up for banishment). Due to the recent revelations, I changed my vote to Tali. I do not like the way she has played the game and do not feel she has been honest with the BG's & the TVCH members. |
Riviere76 | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 02:38 pm  Voted for Talisker once and seen nothing to change my mind, just more that explains my intuition about her. My second vote, I don't think will be changed either. It's obviously not Mantastic, Snave, who already quit, it's somebody who might well go the distance regardless of votes. I just have to stay true to the feelings I had on Wed. since little has changed gamewise to sway my vote to anyone else. |
Whit4you | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 02:57 pm  Well, my vote definately changed. I personally have no problem with Gail being in game and moderator, and under an assumed identity, but she clearly knew that private chats were against the rules prior to inviting Vykin and ArReal to go private - she put ArReal in a very bad position and rather then take the blame she laid the blame on ArReal. I plan to post a very kind heartfelt post to Gail for her to read when she is out of the game, because I believe once she understands everything she will accept responsibilty and do whatever it takes to make amends for her actions. And at that point it's said and done - she should be able to be here with head held high - once she understands and takes responsibility for her decisions. However - no matter how good her intentions were and how much she just got caught up in this and didn't realize the ramifications of her actions. I hope when all is said and done she is welcomed back here. |
Thoughtpolice | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 03:07 pm  I debated a bit over my vote this time. I voted for Xenia the first time and finally decided to vote for her again. In Brittany-speak, I have questions regarding Tali and Arreal. I don't think either of them handled the Gail/Tali incident well. Tali: Her explanation for revealing her identity to Kearie doesn't ring true. During pre-game convos, Gail and Jana were already taunting Kearie with a BanishKearie.com site. Most of the convos seemed to be in gest, but there was an underlying tone of sincerity that they would do everything possible to get her banished. Gail had to have realized how this information would affect Kearie. I suspect she was playing head games with her. She continues to try and make Arreal the total scapegoat for the incident. Arreal: As another poster already said, Arreal should have been upfront and told Tali/Gail that she was uncomfortable knowing this information. If Tali/Gail refused to confess to the other BGs, then Kearie would tell them all. She didn't need to make such a brouhaha over it. That said - at least Arreal's mature enough to take responsibility for her part in the incident and apologize. So since I can't vote for two BGs and feel that both have been at fault, I'm giving them both the chance to make amends and move on from here. Besides, I'm really tired of Xenia bashing Vyk all the time. |
Vasix | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 05:01 pm  Wow, some really great posts here. Let's keep this board up as the voting goes on. Nekkid. Thanks for pointing out Xenia could have been channeling an S&M fantasy riff. It still makes me uncomfortable. I'm not into S&M (I have a rule: sex shouldn't hurt) and I don't think Xenia was speaking in terms of sexual gratification. I think her comments were pure hatred, humiliation and pain. S&M or not, still not appealing or acceptable. As for that "nice" side of Xenia I haven't seen it, and since she is going to be around for at least another week, could you help point out when she is being sweet. I'm gonna need some coaching to get to like her. |
Nikkid | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 05:12 pm  Vasix - I'm in agreement that you can feel that way. I read my post and my feelings, and I have the same problem with Talis. Not S&M of course, but just the way she has to be the *sexy* one, and then expect to be taken seriously. I hate the word WET as a verb, and the RR where she said "more people should be like me" just floored me. It was a byegone conclusion for my vote, this scandal has just been icing on the cake. Vote with your gut and you won't be wrong - and I hope Xenia redeems herself, and you folks see her like I do. |
Nikkid | Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 05:14 pm  Ooops! Big mistake - my other vote said the quote! Arrgh! |
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