My impressions

The ClubHouse: Temptation Island 2 : My impressions

Joan

Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 11:03 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't get why Andy and Shannon being the couple getting married was supposed to be a surprise?! They said at the end of the last episode last season that they got engaged as soon as they got off camera at the final bonfire. I guess all the viewers were supposed to have forgotten that over the summer? I think the real relationship trial happens once the show airs though so it was good to see what had happened since, to not say would be to cut the story short IMO. (Oh and why did Billy grow hair? *sobs* He was so hot!)

As for the new couples...did they even change anything? lol They look like the same couples to me!

Thomas and Nikkole--the black couple who bickers right up until Mark splits them up. I was having Ytossi and Taheed flashbacks. I wonder if Nikkole will burst into tears the first night and send snide videos to Thomas too? The only thing different is the chick was a huge TI fan and just seems starstruck to be on her favourite TV show.

John and Shannon--she looks like Shannon and she's even named Shannon. She's super sweet like Shannon too! Oh well, at least she's a money grubber, that might spruce things up a bit.

Genevieve and Tony--here we have this season's effeminate guy ala Kia who will probably get the majority of the chicks for some mysterious reason. She's a little too assertive to be Valerie though.

Edmundo and Catherine--speaking of Valerie, is that her brother? Catherine is our token aspiring singer ala Mandy using the show as a springboard for her fledgling career. Fake as all hell but will probably be one of the most dramatic. Notice how she was directing Edmundo on how to sit even? lol Gotta make a good impression for those MTV scouts. Let's talk more about Catherine...her smile is so plastic I want to smack her through the TV. At least I'm not alone, the "temptresses" thought so too. Gee, I'm in such great company.

Single Girls--I won't go into every single one of them but Amanda...*kak* A poor imitation of the pink haired wild child from last season. Caneel was a good choice to boot IMO. I was trying to see which one I would block if my bf were on the show but I lost track. I think I picked Kristin because she was adventurous (?) but on the website I saw she has a nosering so he would never in a million years touch her. He hates noserings more than my navel piercing. Hillary might be my next choice. I wish they had their profiles online and not just the pics.

Single Guys--Juleby...are they kidding? He'll probably be a total ham though. Ali looks the coolest so far. I think Brian was a good choice to boot. I would probably get blocked from Rossi or Jeff. I am a sucker for those beat up bullriding hats.

(Disclaimer: No one really knows how any of these ppl are IRL. It's all how the network decides to portray them, some will get the shaft and some will be depicted accurately, we'll never know which is which.)

Tomorrow...another episode AND Survivor. Have I died and gone to voyeuristic smut heaven?

PS--Did I mention how incredibly cheesy the robes were?

Grooch

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 03:53 am Click here to edit this post
Great summary, Joan.

I thought Thomas was a very serious guy at the beginning. They showed him paying the bills, taking the house seriously. Then he complained to Nikkole how he didn't want to be there, it was all her idea. Well when the girls came out, he looked the most excited of all the men. I was shocked. And I agree, the arguing between them before they left, reminded me of Ytossi and Taheed right then. (Notice how they weren't in last night's reunion show.)

I think Genevieve made a big mistake in not choosing Tiffini as the one to block. She would have been the girl I voted off the island. She looks like trouble with a capital T to me. And boy was Genevieve pissed off when her bf didn't pick the same strategy as her and block the least attractive one because they are there for the "experience" What a load of crap! She'll be eating those words soon. Plus it was so rude of her the way she said to the girl, "I'm blocking you because you are the least attractive to him."

How rude!

Fruitbat

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 05:29 am Click here to edit this post
I didn't watch this show last year but saw the last episode. I would bet that no matter how many of these are produced they will not get a couple splitting up on the show. For that to happen someone would have to fall madly in love almost at first site and be very sure. They could split once home but I doubt we will see it.

I liked Katherine but was not crazy about her partner, Edmundo. (thanks Joan, for supplying the names) She wanted to connect in their last moments together but he seemed unwilling.

I liked Nicole and thought her partner, Thomas, arrogant and mean spirited. The deal of living together for the rest of his life and having children but not wanting to get married is a lie. He has one emotional foot out the door. It is easier to stay so that is why he is still there. I think they will split after the show at some point down the road.

Genevive and Tony. I found neither compelling. He is very passive and probably sweet but too low key to be an active participant in a relationship with a partner wanting more. We may see a softer side to Genevive but first impressions showed her to be angry and stern.

John and Shannon. I like John a lot. He is my favorite personality. I like Shannon too. I think they are the strongest couple despite their major issue of money.

I liked some of the tempters very much. There seemed to be quite a few genuine, solid people there. The woman from Las Vegas will remain to the bitter end. Talk about no threat! She seems out of place.

Wink

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 07:51 am Click here to edit this post
I was going to watch during commercials on West Wing. What the hell was the deal with the March of the Druids? That gave me the creeps.

Max

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 08:55 am Click here to edit this post
Not a bad start. Great summary, Joan!

I have to say that when the singles first appeared around the pool, my eye settled on Brian first thing! I was bummed when they booted him, but I understand why!

Yes, Thomas and Nicole have a definite Ytossie and Taheed flavor. They seemed so disrespectful to each other. I don't understand how people can be "in love" and then talk to each other so rudely, especially in front of cameras on a show that's supposed to test their loyalty to each other. He seems afraid to commit--or maybe just afraid to commit to her. In any case, why would he marry her when he can have all the benefits with none of the commitment anyway?

I really liked Shannon and John and I hope this works for them the way it did for Shannon and Andy in the first season.

And, yes, I wanted to slap the fake smile off of Catherine's face. She seems SO plastic. Her relationship with Edmundo seems sort of superficial, although it's hard to tell. They "fell in love" either at first sight or in three days time, depending on which one you listen to. Gag! Seems like that's a vulnerable relationship that might be built on convenience (Mr. or Ms. right now instead of just plain right) rather than on anything substantial.

We'll see. This is the ultimate in guilty pleasure reality shows for me--the Jerry Springer genre. Always interesting, that's for sure!

Joan

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 10:38 am Click here to edit this post
Let's be real...no one who is genuinely "in love" and having a wonderful time with their SO would be on a show like this. I think Mark pointed that out nicely last night. hehe Happy couples don't run off to test their relationship.

I think the final bonfire is not really the best way to see if a couple will stay together or not. The decision they make there is pretty premature IMO. I think they ought to do an episode after that where they show the couples once they returned home--that is the telling bit. Bonfire is just too emotional, too short (and too uninformed) for a real decision. I suppose that is what last night's special was for though.

Muse

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 01:28 pm Click here to edit this post
All the suspense for "who's going to get married" actually made me question if it *would* be Andy and Shannon. After all, we all knew that they were engaged. So I started second guessing myself when they kept trying to build up the suspense.

Anyway - I still think Andy's kind of a moron. But I think Shannon is a good influence, and I think he did learn something from going on the show - namely, that he's lucky to have her! :) If they got through the show and the press/recognition factor afterward okay, I'm guessing their marriage might work out too.

I liked Billy with hair. I don't know about the sideburns, though. And what's the deal with Mandy's hair? The dark made her eyes stand out and look very pretty, but the dye job was awful.

Thomas and Nikkole - Oy. Obviously going to break up. If they can't even get along when they're about to be separated for a long time, they obviously have major issues. By the way - were they the couple where the guy leaned over and told the girl while they were waiting for the singles that she must love the drama/suspense? I don't even remember what couple that was...but I do remember thinking that the girl annoyed me. She got all snippy at him for it, and it seemed like a justified comment since it sounded like she wanted to be on the show for that very reason (the drama). But if that *was* Thomas and Nikkole, that means I don't really like either one...his argument about being willing to live with her forever, have kids, etc but *not* get married made no sense. I don't think he's ready to commit to her, but just won't admit it.

John and Shannon - It's kind of scary how she sort of looks like TI1's Shannon, and even has the same name. Anyway, I don't know if things bode well for them, based on the previews. I think the money issue is a big one for them. John seemed nice most of the time, but he obviously is a bit ticked that Shannon places so much emphasis on money. I can see both of their arguments, though - Shannon seems too focused on it, but John does seem a bit too carefree. They need to compromise a bit.

Genevieve and Tony - Tony's purty. :) He seems pretty easygoing, but I got the impression that he's just dying to break free from her control. So he might end up being a little more wild than Genevieve expected. Also - did anyone notice that Tony seemed to look over to her a lot at various points during the show, but that she was usually staring straight ahead or even just ignoring him?

Edmundo and Catherine - I agree about Catherine being fake. I can see her being as emotional as Mandy, but less sincere about those emotions. Her little smiles (smirks) irritated me - I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. Edmundo - didn't make much of an impression either way.

Single Girls - Amanda is the one that Genevieve blocked, right? Man - I felt sorry for her. That was pretty cold of Genevieve to say what she did. She could have worded it so it was much less hurtful. Plus it was just a stupid move, especially since Tony went and did the exact opposite by finding the type he thought she would find most appealing. Anyway, Caneel was gorgeous, so I think the girls made a good choice.

Single Guys - I felt a little bad for Juleby, too...lol. I wasn't that impressed by Ali, but Brian - yum. :) Another good choice to eliminate by the guys. And Rossi seems very amusing, so I think blocking him from the girls who enjoy a sense of humor was probably a wise decision.

Overall - I think the couples are slightly more attractive than they were last time. I also think that *none* of the relationships seem that solid, so I predict major drama because of that.

Realfan

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 01:33 pm Click here to edit this post
<<And boy was Genevieve pissed off when her bf didn't pick the same strategy as her and block the least attractive one because they are there for the "experience" What a load of crap! She'll be eating those words soon. >>

Believe it or not, I understand what she's saying, whether it was genuine or not. I always thought it was dumb to block the most "tempting" single. What's the point of taking part in this show, if you're not willing for the "best" competition to compared to you to see if your partner still returns to you? Wouldn't that be the truest "test"? After all, once they're married, they'll have to say no to everyone, including the most "tempting."

I thought Vegas Biker Girl looked pretty skanky with those unzipped cut-offs.


<<I was going to watch during commercials on West Wing. What the hell was the deal with the March of the Druids? That gave me the creeps. >>

Someone was inspired by Eyes Wide Shut, apparently, and thought it was sexy. Ugh.

I missed last night's special. What was on it? Where are all the couples now?

Joan

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 03:27 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes Muse, that was Thomas and Nikkole. When she was bubbling over talking about how she watched TI1 all the time and couldn't wait to be on it, I got the impression he was largely being drug along on her little TV adventure.

Realfan, I see your point but I think Tony saw her actions as an attempt to make him do the same thing for her and that isn't exactly cool.

Grooch

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 03:37 pm Click here to edit this post
So would that be passive aggressive behavior on Thomas's part? He got dragged along, so now he is really going to enjoy himself because he was forced to go. I'm telling you, he looked the most excited when they were leaving at the end of the show.

And if Geneviere wanted the most desirable one to be available, she should have discussed it ahead of time with Tony. Not spring it on him at the last minute.

Kizz

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 03:58 pm Click here to edit this post
<<I thought Vegas Biker Girl looked pretty skanky with those unzipped cut-offs.>>

Amen to that...and why was she standing there with her big gut pushed out?? She looked pregnant...I was fearful someone didn't show up at the last minute and they had to recruit one of the local working girls, tho' later when they showed her talking to the other single girls, she didn't look so bad...she'll probably end up being the most popular one!! Also, Mandy doesn't pull Goth off very well. Shannon looked lovely in her wedding gown, Kaya also looks well (and he's obviously not as vapid as we all had him pegged, did everyone catch him winning the Newsmakers edition of The Weakest Link?), I too preferred Billy bald. Were we supposed to surmise that he and Mandy were the couple that broke up, which left Kaya and Val as the two who were still dating?? They never really made that clear, but it seems to me that with all the stuff I saw Kaya doing (Cannonball Run for one), they couldn't have spent a lot of time together. She probably just refuses to let him break up with her Looking forward to the awesome double feature of Survivor and Ti2 tonight

Joan

Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 04:16 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes Kizz, Mandy and Billy were the broken up pair although Billy doesn't seem to really be over her. And I agree on the hair...if you're going to go goth, at least be sure the dye job is a professional one. At least she made sure her eyebrows matched. I liked her better with orange hair...wow, that sounds wierd.

Lancecrossfire

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 10:39 am Click here to edit this post
Joan, great thread, and great summary on your part.

I have just a couple things to throw in along with what others have said.

I'm with Realfan about Genevieve--kind of the Colby approach to the game. Go against the best competition to make sure you deserve to win.

I think it's possible she did tell Tony before hand that she was going to do this. maybe not in those exact words, although she could have said she was going there and play to the limits.

I wonder if the couples being rehashes of last year's people is inherent to the game? If you pick people that are will to put themselves through this, yet have any potential TV value, will they just get the same types over and over?

It really bugs me that they "can dish it out, but not take it". Same thing happened last year. Any one of them does their thing with the singles, and that is ok, yet when they see their partner doing the exact same things, they freak out. Hey folks, if you can't take it, get the heck out.

Of course they've got to be about 4 bottles short of a 6 pack to be there to begin with, so maybe I shouldn't be too surprised and anything they are or are not capable of.

And to trade a career for a person. Wow, just goes to show what some of them think a human is worth.

Grooch

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 10:48 am Click here to edit this post
Did it seem to anyone else that when they were watching the tapes and when the host was discussing the tapes, it felt like a marriage counseling session?

Grooch

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 10:50 am Click here to edit this post
P.S. I agree with your post Lance. Esp the parts about the dishing it and not taking it, and how they seem to be last year's couple.

When that girl started crying that all she wanted was her boyfriend after the 1st date, that was Val to a tee. They even look alike.

Grooch

Friday, November 09, 2001 - 10:57 am Click here to edit this post
And yes, you have to be short a full 6 pack to even consider going on that show.

I can excuse the people from the 1st year. I'm sure they had no idea what they were getting into, or to what extremes the producers would go to to seduce them. And what lies they told these people. But come on. This new group has had a chance to see the show and know exactly what is in store for them. They won't get much sympathy from me.

I think Nikkole wanted to go because it would be a good excuse to break up with her boyfriend and she can have some fun and possibly meet her next boyfriend.

Grooch

Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 11:51 am Click here to edit this post
One more thing I forgot to mention.

Why did the guys send home the guy they did for El Mundo? Because they thought it was a threat because he spoke spanish to Catherine?

They actually did all the girls a favor. Who the h*ll would want a guy wearing shorts and knee high socks and thinks that it is cool? And was he wearing loafers with that getup? I can't remember.

Plus he didn't even have a full goatee. Just a pinch of thick fluff. It looked like a piece of food stuck on his chin. Please tell me that this will not be the next fashion statement.

He's a loser because he dresses like this on purpose and thinks he's cool. What a dork.

Joan

Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 01:26 pm Click here to edit this post
hehe I was thinking the same thing Grooch--I would be so happy that that dude got sent home. He looked sleazy!

My guess is the other guys were worried that his speaking Spanish and trying to be suave would be attractive to the girls or at least to Edmundo's gf.

Max

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 08:29 am Click here to edit this post
Okay, what's up with that blonde chic that likes Edmundo? She was all upset because one of the other gals started macking all over him and he responded. She thinks he likes her and he shouldn't be doing that if he likes her.

H E LLLLLLLLL OOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

She seems to have forgotten that he has a long-standing relationship coming into this thing. It didn't bother her at all that he was macking on HER, but somehow, paying attention to the other girls makes him bad?! Geez, get a clue.

I think what he said about her being immature is too true. From the preview, though, it looks like he might be fairly interested in her as the show progresses.

Grooch

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 08:41 am Click here to edit this post
Thank you, Max! I was thinking the same exact thing. The girl is cluless.

At least Tiffini & Kishi understood this is a game. And they were laughing at the blonde girl.

Maybe Edmudo should go for the blond girl. After Catherine sees that he wasgetting lapdances on national tv, I don't think they will be tother any longer.

Tksoard

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 08:51 am Click here to edit this post
Not to mention, he WAS on a date with someone else when she tried to BUTT in on his date!! She is just too much. Can't stand her!! She's Hillary, right?

Teddybear

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 09:00 am Click here to edit this post
But I just want to know what up with that NASTY redhead chick!! Come on Edmundo, you can do better than that!! The girl he went on a date with and the crybaby blond haired girl are both like 40 million times better! I guess he proved all men go for the easiest girls (no matter what the look like!)

Max

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 10:24 am Click here to edit this post
Yup, the redhead was acting like a strip club employee for sure. She also seemed to be getting at least a portion of her enjoyment from seeing the blonde (Hillary?) be upset by her actions. I got the impression that there's a bit of cattiness going on between some of the gals. (Wow, like that's a surprise in this scenario! :))

I think Edmundo is only "going for" these gals on a fooling around basis. He keeps saying he's going to enjoy the complete experience and I think he means that. Didn't Kaya have that attitude last season? It kept looking like he was going to change his mind and hook up with someone new, but in the end, he was just having flings and intending to go back to Valerie.

I'm not so sure Catherine will be waiting with open arms, though.

Lancecrossfire

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 10:51 am Click here to edit this post
Teddybear--by Edmundo going for the redhead, how does he prove all men go for the easiest girls??

I don't see how the action of one shows what to expect from everyone else.

Moondance

Friday, November 16, 2001 - 11:58 am Click here to edit this post
Teddybear... what happened to your deadpool votes?... we missed them... hopefully, you can vote next week... any vote is better than nothing... thanks:) It helps the team!

Oregonfire

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:58 am Click here to edit this post
I just read in my weekly dose of tabloids that TI2 is being criticized for having too many "dogs" on the show. Excuse me? How are these people dogs, especially the women? How are these standards created, and who are these harsh critics that judge anyone a "dog" who isn't their ideal of perfection? I think that of the female half of the couples, Catherine and especially Nikkole are very attractive. It just bugs me. I mean, if these buff people are grotesque "dogs," than what the hell am I?

Tillie

Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 09:24 pm Click here to edit this post
I also wonder what 'standard' is used to determine the player or tempter definition of beauty. To be honest, the 'tempters' for the most part, exceed in the beauty category when compared to the game players. JMHO.

Joan

Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 10:02 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree Tillie.

I wouldn't call them "dogs" but I don't find any of those couples attractive. *shrugs* Billy and Mandy were the only hot ones last season though IMO so... I can see why Kaya would be attractive to some although I am not turned on by effeminite guys. Andy was just average as average comes as were Shannon and Valerie.

I have to be honest and say when I saw the pics on the site for this season, my first thought was "when are they going to find some hotties?" I honestly think Genevieve looks like a man in the face and Tony has very girly features coupled with that high nasal voice. Thomas is average, I would even say Nikkole is unattractive. I thought it was funny when one of the guys said he didn't find her attractive until he had spent time with her. Ouch! Catherine's features are too pointy but I think that is just the way she applies her makeup. Edmundo is unattractive. John is average, Shannon is average. There is my ultracritical review of their looks this season. heh A few of the tempters/temptresses are good looking but maybe I am just extremely picky. One thing I do have to admit, they all have figures.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 04:09 am Click here to edit this post
I would be shocked if any of the couples broke up at the end of this show. I know production would absolutely love that! Maybe down the line the stress of this experience could drive them apart but not directly as they have been reunited.

Realfan

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 09:27 am Click here to edit this post
<<I think that of the female half of the couples, Catherine and especially Nikkole are very attractive. It just bugs me. I mean, if these buff people are grotesque "dogs," than what the hell am I? >>

ITA, Oregonfire. It's ridiculous. Remember when the Survivor 2 contestants were blasted for being too "pretty"? Now on TI2 we have some regular, yet attractive people, and they're not good enough?

I think Catherine is very pretty. It finally struck me last night who she reminds me of--Phoebe on Friends. But she has a more voluptuous body.

Nikkole is also pretty, and much too good for her guy, too.

I heard a scientist explain that a "beautiful" face is really a compilation of average features, i.e., no extremes (big nose, too long of a chin, close-set eyes, etc.) If all of these people were perfectly beautiful, they'd all look alike! LOL!! And that would be pretty boring.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 09:38 am Click here to edit this post
Anyone else find it odd that the only 2 threads on this show are not under one heading?

Joan

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 01:04 pm Click here to edit this post
Fruitbat, I agree. After not having seen your bf/gf for 2 weeks, you are not going to come back to them and dump them right there unless you really just didn't like them from the start or something. The telling part is what happens when they get home and especially what happens when the show airs and they watch all the stuff they didn't see. That wedding special, overdone as it may have been, was the REAL Final Bonfire for those couples. Each decided to stay together on the last night but only one has actually decided to marry.

Misslibra

Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 07:41 pm Click here to edit this post
I can't get into this show, but I'm trying. These couples go on the show knowing what the show is all about, but when they see their partners hooking up with someone they freak all out...HELLO PEOPLE!! you knew it would be like this before you went on the show, now suck it up and deal with it!

For some reason I find it annoying when these couples start to throw a hissy fits when they find out their partner's are getting freaky with someone else. I still watch the show but it definitely don't have the same attraction for me as the last TI did.

Grooch

Friday, November 23, 2001 - 11:30 am Click here to edit this post
MissL, I figure these people are convinced that their mates would never be tempted. That's why they get upset.

Why they think this, is beyond me.

Crazydog

Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 01:08 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree with MissLibra, I can't get into the show either. Last time I watched every episode like it was a train wreck - the little voices told me that I shouldn't be looking at it but I couldn't tear myself away. This time around, I've only seen it once, because I think something else is on TV at the same time that I'd rather watch. I could not stand that guy Edwardo - not only is he repulsively ugly but he is as annoying as $hit.

I also do not understand why they freak out and weep at the bonfires. On TI1, they didn't know what they were getting into. They should be prepared for it this time, even if they don't want it to happen. It'd be like going on Big Brother 2 thinking you'd get a phone or TV or on Survivor thinking you'd have an all you can eat buffet every night. Silly silly silly.

Joan

Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 04:10 pm Click here to edit this post
I think Grooch has hit the nail on the head. People go on that show thinking their mate will never be tempted and thinking that they are going to totally kick butt. Who knows what drugs these ppl are on when they think that but... :P

Resortgirl

Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 12:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Maybe it's because I live in the North Woods and there are mostly guys in flannel and women in, well flannel too, but I think all the contestants are good looking. The women in particular. Hmmmm....maybe I should move.

Joan

Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 07:21 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok, after the "dog" discussion here, I was paying particular attention to looks tonight. Shannon is pretty but she has bad hair. It looks like she swims a lot or had a chemical treatment gone wrong. I don't think she is ugly at all though.

Catherine is starting to grow on me more. She seemed VERY fake at the beginning but I am starting to agree that maybe that is just how she is--really prissy. Speaking of fake though, her boobs cannot be real. If they are, I am jealous. lol

I thought it was so weird that Genevieve was the one who was so insistant on dating guys different from Tony and keeping around all the guys she was tempted by so she could have the full experience and now she has shut herself down totally. When she was arguing with Nikkole and the guys, she said she would be having a good time if people wouldn't keep trying to change her mind about things. Hello? Isn't that the whole point of the show? To be "tempted" to change your mind? I can understand her thought process on this one--she has been there over a week, she knows she misses Tony, she has made her choice--but it is just ironic coming from her of all people. She is this season's Valerie in this respect.

Anyone else notice the flexing and strutting when the single guys and single girls were standing next to each other by the pool? lol Talk about sexual tension! I don't think they were doing that for the couples. And the guys appearing behind Mark on the beach was almost as cheesy as the robes. Ah, but cheese is why we love this show, right?

Cheese and tease. Did he or didn't he? Maybe we'll never know about Edmundo and Hillary, maybe we will find out next week. I know I'll be watching which means I just swallowed that worm hook and all.

Comeonguys

Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 07:56 pm Click here to edit this post
I can't get over genevieve's actions tonight either! Why oh why did she argue so much with nicole about NOT kicking off the guy she(genevieve) liked (Jeff I think) if she doesn't even want to play the game anymore? That seems really mean to me, that she would get rid of someone nicole may have liked when genevieve doesn't want to be there anyway.

Muse

Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 10:33 pm Click here to edit this post
I agree that most of the people there (contestants and singles alike) are quite attractive. Nikkole and Catherine are gorgeous, and Shannon's very pretty as well (although yes, she does have bad hair :)). I think all of the guys are attractive, too. The only one that I don't think is very good looking is Genevieve. Of course I think her seemingly horrid personality really makes me more critical than I would be ordinarily. :)

Anyway, now that I've gotten to "know" these people better, I have to say that I actually like Catherine. She's a little prissy, but she seems sweet. I also like Nikkole so far, too...I felt bad that Genevieve *insisted* on voting Omar off. I don't have much of an opinion of Shannon or John one way or the other thus far. I think Thomas and Edmundo are both jerks. And I just feel sorry for Tony. He needs to learn how to stand up for himself.