Girl's picks? (and my thoughts on today's show)
The ClubHouse: Temptation Island 2 : Girl's picks? (and my thoughts on today's show)
Joan | Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 10:42 pm   Ok, place your bets on who the ladies will choose! Catherine--Brian Nikkole--Tommy New York Kelly--Ali Shannon--Kevin (Really I think she is the only one for whom there is any question left.) I was a bit surprised by Tommy's pick but I think he listened to John and picked someone who would set his mind at ease rather than tempt him to do something out of revenge. John is a good guy. I think I would be insulted by a pity date though. lol I know I would have smacked Amanda if she had wiped my tears away thus showing all of America what I wore sunglasses to hide! I don't know if I want to see John with Nyla or with Shannon. I don't like Shannon AT ALL but if she cares that much for him... I just cannot figure that girl out. Did ANYONE else hear plastic and see Tommy reaching for a condom or see Nyla "wiping away tears" in the clips? I know I sure didn't! I think Tommy may just have been taking his jeans off to sleep in his boxers from the way he was reacting to Nikkole's dry humping session. And again Shannon pretended the clip didn't bother her but those horrified zombie faces were priceless. You could tell she was about to go numb. Why does she try so hard to pretend it doesn't affect her when it is all on national TV? She also cracked a smile a few times during the other girls' clips. I like Nikkole's attitude though. She just knows she is going to be shown something terrible. I hope her cynical attitude is an indication of what she will do at the final bonfire. I am happy to see Kelly with someone other than Tom. Poor Tom! Her bf seems kind of torn though, who knows what will happen? |
Muse | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 12:13 am   I think you might be right on with your predictions, Joan. The only possible exceptions, IMHO, are Shannon (just because it's obvious that she's not really interested in anyone - I'd also guess she'd choose Kevin since she's comfortable with him, though) and Kelly. Kelly might choose Tom instead. I really hope not, though. I like Ali. Tommy's pick was a little strange. I like Katie (from what little we've seen of her), but it didn't seem like Tommy to pick her. I guess maybe he's hurt that Nikkole has found someone else, and wants to look like he's taking the higher ground. He certainly wasn't holding back from sleazing it up before... Anyway, I guess I'm glad he chose Katie, but he could've come up with a better reason than effectively saying it was a pity date. I'm assuming John and Shannon will stay together, but I wish that he'd dump her instead. She's really devoted to him, but there's just so many little things about her that seem annoying and/or weird. It was interesting to see how she shared her video this time. Anyone else get the impression that the girls - or at least Shannon and Nikkole - had a little discussion about that at some point? And it was also nice hearing Kelly's take on Shannon's misinterpretation of what she saw. It was about time someone commented on how Shannon was just swimmin' in denial. And no - I didn't see Nyla crying or Tommy reaching for a condom, either. I'm hoping that Catherine's stoicism at bonfire indicates that she's ready to break up with Edmundo. Same goes for Nikkole, although I think she already decided that long ago. Yay for Amanda and White Eyeshadow Girl leaving, btw!  |
Sunshinemiss | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 03:37 am   The comment that struck me the most (and would be interested in finding more about) was the statement at the men's final selection that they had banished the sleazy stripper some days before... I wonder what happened? She did take the skank cake, so to speak, but some of the guys seemed to like that.. I actually thought from what Tommy said, that she was going to be his choice for a final date (being the "outsider" etc).. anyone hear anything about it anywhere else? Most of the date selections were, as you stated, very predictable. I think the producers are trying to bait us a bit about the Catherine and Brian/Rossi situation but I'm pretty certain it will be Brian. (Hubba hubba, I'll take him if she doesn't want him). Shannon doesn't bother me, I hd a friend that was very like her in that she had trouble expressing her feelings in a "socially appropriate" way, and it does put a lot of people off. You just have to get to know them well enough and then it just becomes one of those things where you say "oh, that's just Shannon". How she feels is not what she shows on the surface. I am going to be very curious to see what couples make it or not. I was suprised last year too, that they all came through together. I really hope Catherine dumps Edmundo... but sometimes what is best for you and what you want/need are not the same thing. Maybe Edmundo fulfills Catherine's need to feel superior and or martyred? Not healthy, but who am I to say. I even more so hope ( and believe) that Tommy and Nikkole are done. Is next week the last episode? |
Realfan | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 08:31 am   That name was the sleazy stripper? I heard a name, but was confused about what Mark was talking about! ITA totally about Shannon swimmin' in denial. She can't be honest about her feelings at bonfire, now she's making up stories to make herself feel better! Bizarro!! And going on and on about that phantom condom sure couldn't have made Nikkole feel better, even if she's feeling "numb". And I SURE didn't see any tears being wiped away. Her rationalizations would be funny if she wasn't so completely able to convince herself of their truth. She's the sort of woman whom a cheatin' man would love to have as a wife. Devoted, and never seeing what's really going on right under her nose. She would just explain away the "lipstick on the collar." ITA that Catherine will choose Brian despite the scenes of Brian saying he thought he went too far. I, for one, was glad to see him talking "real stuff" with Catherine, and if she is anything like me, she would like that in a guy. But then, her brain is probably spinning right now. I just hope that hint about her breaking up with Edmundo comes true, but after the first show had us believing all kinds of things that never happened, who knows? LOL about Catherine's comment that Edmundo wasn't eloquent. It took TI to figure that out? One positive sign to future dumpage was that neither Catherine nor Nikkole felt as bad as they thought they would. They're starting to disconnect, an important step in breaking up. I couldn't tell for sure whether next week was the last, or if they're going to string this out yet another week. I'm expecting two more shows. Yes, Muse, I also got the feeling that Shannon had been convinced by the other girls to share her tape. Good for them! And yes, Joan, I couldn't believe Shannon's zombie face. It was amazing! I think she was finally showing her real feelings about the whole thing, and thinking the camera wasn't on her because one of the other girls was talking. LOL!!! Finally, I was SO not surprised Amanda was one of the girls to run around naked. Were any of the naked girls chosen as final dates? Maybe this was their last ditch attempt to get selected? |
Ark | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 11:18 am   The look on Shannon's face while watching Tommy's tape was my favorite part of this show since the beginning. I think it perfectly described how she has viewed everything that has gone on around her since the beginning of this show. If there was any adventure in her soul before this show, I'm sure it has been totally squashed and she will never venture into anything out of the "norm" again in her lifetime. I also wondered what happened to the skanky stripper. I'm don't even want to guess what these couples are going to do in the end. It just amazes me that anyone would stay together after being on this show. I'd love to see Nikkole and Cathrine ditch Tommy and Edmundo but I'm afraid that Cathrine will disappoint me. I'd like to see John dump Shannon, just because she made him come on the show to "prove himself", but I doubt he will. For some reason, I don't even care about Kelly and whatever her boyfriends name is. For the record, I did not see any wiping of tears or hear a rubber wrapper but I'll watch the tape again and watch for them. I also got the impression that the other girls talked to Shannon about sharing her tapes. |
Crazydog | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 12:03 pm   The funniest line was Catherine saying "I am so disappointed I am dating an idiot". I thought I had seen every episode since the girl from Haiti, aka "the skanky stripper", had arrived. I think her name is Migali. What happened to her? I even missed what was supposedly said about her. Did they boot her off-camera? For what reason? Did the girls boot a guy as well? I actually thought she had a great "I'm just here for the fun, nothing serious" attitude. One of the naked girls was definitely Caneel (LOL the show is almost over and I am still having trouble with identifying the singles). I only recognize her because of her "the bizatch is back" comment, the fact that she looks like one, and that annoying voice. Like most everyone here (well, the few people here) I would like to see Catherine dump Edmundo, Nikole dump Tommy, and John dump Shannon. I would like to see Kelly and Mark stay together, they seem like good people. 3 for 4, not bad, hopefully there won't be a predicatable and disappointing snooze fest like last year. |
Joan | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 04:26 am   I got the same impression about Shannon sharing her tapes by the way Nikkole nodded to Kelly when Shannon said "no headphones." I am glad I am not the only one who didn't know what happened to the stripper. I thought maybe I had missed part of an episode or something. If the guys voted off the stripper, did the girls get rid of anyone? As for whether they will stay together or not, I personally think the real determiner is time. They have been apart from one another for a long time now so just seeing each other again for the first time could stir up emotions intially and make them not want to separate. As we saw last season, 3 of the 4 couples didn't break up until after they got home. Since a lot of them (all of them?) live together, it would be even harder to go home split up. Ultimately I think a lot will depend on whether these new people are close enough to continue a relationship with. I think Nikkole and Catherine are not as sad as they thought they would be because, right now, they have distractions. Shannon is going nuts because she is alone. |
Crazydog | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 01:25 pm   I didn't watch the TI One "Wedding Spectacular" because I so disliked Andy and I knew it would be him and Shannon that got married. Joan, is that right, did all three of the remaining couples break up? Even the couple that had the child? I liked them, especially her. I also liked Mandy and the bald guy. That's too bad. But good for that feminine looking model that was stuck with that sleepy-eyed bore of a girlfriend. I can't remember these people's names, I'm not sure why. I just went to the TI website at Fox and there are obviously only 4 single girls left... there had been 8. But there are 9 single guys left, so it seems there was not a matched boot. I'm betting there was some behind the scenes infraction or something similar that we are not privy to. Maybe the guys all decided they didn't like her, there was no way they would pick her, and she just decided to pack up. Just like the whole 5th grade secret note stashing. I fail to believe that there were 4 notes left there, presumably on different days. I think the producers collected and saved them all and replanted them for "good television". Pbbbbllllttt. As mentioned elsewhere, they didn't even show us the resolution. If Migali simply disappeared and they will never tell us why, this show is truly poorly edited. |
Kizz | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 07:19 am   Well they did show Magali getting the "boot necklace" in a little blink-and-you'll-miss-it snippet. It flashed in my mind that she probably got on everyone's nerves, boys and girls alike, with her superior, "he's either gay or the stuff doesn't work down there" attitude when whoever she dated didn't try to jump her (Mark?), so maybe they all just complained until the producers agreed to get rid of her. Anyhow, I think Shannon is a psycho, that whole thing with the "phantom rubber" was too strange, and the wiping of the tears, too. But the thing I really want to know is, in the clip the girls saw that showed Tommy getting busy, did anybody else think it looked like there was another guy in the bed? No one commented on it but I know I saw someone...didn't I? |
Grooch | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 08:39 am   Unfortunetly, I was having tv trouble at the beginning of the show. I could only hear them watching the tape, I couldn't see what was going on. One thing I did have to laugh about last night, was how all the single girls were so sad the last day there, and they were saying how this experience changed their lives forever for the better, that it was a soul searching thing, yada, yada, yada. The whole time I was like "what?" You came to the island and acted like sluts. What was there to soul search about? And then they showed Edmundo throwing the football and saying how the girls were over there acting like girls and crying because they were all having to say goodbye. And you could tell none of the men felt the least bit the same way the girls did. They looked glad to get rid of them. |
Grooch | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 08:43 am   Crazydog, that was a great line by Catherine. I know a lot of people don't like her, but I do. And I hope Kelly dumps her man (and Nikkole and Catherine too) I think she only agreed to come to the island because he insisted on it. And that he can't commit to her. I believe he has cheated on her a lot but it is ok for him because he is a guy but she is not allowed to. Dump his *ss! She deserves better. |
Ark | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 09:50 am   Yes Kizz, there was a guy in the bed next to them. I assume that it was so dark in the room, he couldn't see what was going on. Then again, maybe it was light enough for him to see and those two just have no shame. |
Llkoolaid | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 11:09 am   I think I must be in a minority, but I like Shannon. I think she realizes she made a big mistake coming on this sleazy show and is just trying to get through it. I think her and John will stay together and I can't stand that clingy Nayla girl or what ever her name is that he keeps picking. The only other person that I like is Nikkole. In the previews for next week they showed bonfire where Catherine and Edmundo meet so I think it is the last show. The olympics start the next day so I hope it is finished next week. I don't want to have to wait until the olympics are over. |
Seamonkey | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 11:20 am   Why worry about the guy next to them (I saw that too) when they have no shame being shown to anyone who watches on tv?? The only "shame" is being involved (oh yeah, and watching it, like I do) |
Joan | Friday, February 01, 2002 - 04:18 pm   I think he was just taking his jeans off because he didn't want to sleep in them. From his reaction to Nikkole and some of the things he said, it does not sound at all like he had sex or even came that close. I am wondering about Magali too. Then again, she was a stripper so who knows what she may or may not have done? I cannot imagine what would get her kicked off though since other people ran around naked. There WAS one guy who had to leave due to a family emergency so maybe that would explain why the girls didn't vote off a guy when Magali left? |
Ark | Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 04:59 pm   Joan, he didn't have jeans on. He had those baggy shorts on that come to the knee or just below the knee. They kind of look like cargo pants but short ones. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he just wanted to take his jeans off to sleep but I watched again and they are loose fitting shorts so that can't be his excuse. |
Muse | Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 01:29 am   I'm not positive, but I don't think any of the "Sarong Bandits" were picked for the final dates. It was Amanda, Caneel, and White Eyeshadow Girl, right? I also think that they were making a last minute ditch to either catch one of the guy's attention (so he'd pick one of them for the final date), or - even more likely - just to get their last bit of air time. You know, it's sad when someone (Magalie) is voted off of Temptation Island for being too skanky. Pretty sure it was Edmundo in the bed, by the way. |
Madelane | Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 01:04 pm   Crazydog, Kaya and Valerie from last season are still together - they live right down the street from me and I see them walking their dog together. I would comment on the last episode but everyone already said everything I was thinking. Can't wait for the final bonfire - bets on how much of it will be in slo-mo? |
Crazydog | Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 06:30 am   I remember at last year's bonfire the "foreboding new age music" that utterly drowned out about half of what was said. I wonder if the same thing will happen this year, how many black and white flashbacks there will be, and how many stupid looks on Mark Wahlberg's face we will see. How about bets on cryers? I'd say everyone but Tommy cries. |
Crazydog | Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 08:38 am   Here's an article from TVGuide.com that makes it pretty clear that Catherine chooses Brian tonight and that no one chooses Rossi. Not that there was ever any doubt. Poor Rossi |
Joan | Friday, February 08, 2002 - 12:10 am   I say Edmundo doesn't cry but everyone else does. |
Resortgirl | Friday, February 08, 2002 - 05:16 am   I think It's really odd how subdued all the men have become compared to the first couple of weeks.. it's like they sowed their wild oats and are now shaping up in preparation to return to their old lives and loves. Do they honestly think that their earlier antics are going to go unnoticed? The girls on the other hand (with the exception of Shannon) have developed real bonds with the men they went on their final dates with. I'm not sure if they let themselves get into it out of revenge and now their realizing what jerks they came to the island with, or maybe it's because woman have a harder time having "no strings attached" intimacy. I think all the guys are in for a bit of suprise at bonfire. I predict that Catherine AND Nicole will dump the dudes! And that is a good thing! |
Enbwife | Friday, February 08, 2002 - 08:42 am   I think Catherine will stay with Edmundo because she’s too needy to leave him. I also think Nicole will dump Tommy for Tom-NY and move to be with him. Tommy was really down on the final date. I figured he’d go all out one final time. Shannon seemed to have a great time on her date. Catherine & Brian seemed depressed. I could see her withdrawing from him. Can’t wait until next week! |
Realfan | Friday, February 08, 2002 - 12:04 pm   <<I remember at last year's bonfire the "foreboding new age music" that utterly drowned out about half of what was said. I wonder if the same thing will happen this year, how many black and white flashbacks there will be, and how many stupid looks on Mark Wahlberg's face we will see. How about bets on cryers? I'd say everyone but Tommy cries.>> LOL!! I remember that LOUD music!! I couldn't believe how loud it was. So annoying. They had better have learned their lesson. I had to STRAIN to hear the "all important dialogue" between the participants. |
Grooch | Friday, February 08, 2002 - 04:17 pm   That's why you need a tv with closed captioning! You would be amazed at how much can be missed in some shows. |
Realfan | Friday, February 08, 2002 - 05:00 pm   I didn't think to turn on the CC with TI 1. If they do that to me again, I'll have to, though. I prefer to hear the people, so I can hear their inflections. |
Joan | Friday, February 08, 2002 - 10:48 pm   You can hear people with CC on, you just see subtitles at the bottom as well. |
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