Holy Cow! Speculations anyone?
The ClubHouse: Temptation Island 2 : Holy Cow! Speculations anyone?
Joan | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 07:12 pm   Did you guys see the teaser for next week's show? Genevieve makes a tape for Tony but "due to the nature of the content" of the tape, Mark cannot show the tape to Tony in front of anyone else. Then it shows Mark and Tony talking at bonfire alone and Genevieve joins them. I am betting it is one of 3 things: 1. She has threatened to walk off the show. (Although others have said they wanted to leave last season and Billy even tried to get away from the cameras but I have a feeling Genevieve would be harder to deal with if she set her mind to this.) 2. She has threatened to do something harmful to herself or Tony (not necessarily seriously but even an idle threat would cause FOX to take action). 3. She has revealed something which would disqualify them as a couple (obviously it wouldn't be the presence of a child since she is "fixed" but there could be something else). I am wondering what this "content" was. Argh! I am looking forward to TI2 next week more than Survivor! This is most unusual! |
Grooch | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 07:19 pm   I'm thinking that she has decided to leave the show. But it is Tony's choice if he wants to leave with her. She starts to look upset, so I am guessing that he is doesn't want to leave, or he is very undecided about leaving. --------- As to the tape, the only thing I can think of that they won't show is that she is doing a sexual act or threatening suicide. I am going with the first choice. When did they make these tapes. After the events that happened last week, when they were given th eoption, or after the events of this week? |
Kizz | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 07:22 pm   I also got very psyched when I saw that tease, I am going to guess that she said she didn't need any more time to make a decision, confident that Tony would jump at the chance to just get back with her. But Tony has indeed finally grown the balls that everyone tried to tell Gen he didn't have and he's not ready to leave. Oh the irony. That girl is a real piece of work, and I'm not surprised that the single guys have "shunned" her. The funny thing is, I really would have picked Catherine for the type of attitude that Genevieve is displaying. Valerie redux, anyone?? Ewwww Grooch, I never even thought that she would be doing something sexual on her tape. Yuk, what a thought.  |
Joan | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 07:24 pm   Those were my thoughts too Grooch, to the T--sexual content or suicide. I don't think that she is the suicidal type but if she even said something like "omg I'm gonna kill myself!" it could send the producers into a bit of a panic. Maybe she strips for the camera? Who knows. I think you are also right about them giving him a choice about whether to leave the show with her or not. She said "you're scaring me!" so your hypothesis makes sense. I didn't even think that they may let her leave and let him stay on. As for when they made the tapes, I am not sure. They got offered the chance at the last bonfire before this episode but I don't know if that is when they actually completed them. |
Comeonguys | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 07:47 pm   Ok I saw some gossip about this on another site a few days ago (before this episode) it said that tony and genevieve leave the show early stating that they don't need to prove their love to anyone and fox replaces them with another couple. Not at all sure this source is creditable but I have a gut feeling that they do leave. I do believe tony will have second thoughts but since they have been together for years I doubt he would throw that away to stay on the island. Personally, I wish he would. Genevieve seems very controlling and it appears that everything was fine as long as she was having fun, but as soon as she saw that tony wasn't locking himself in his room she freaked and had to become the puppet master again. |
Avrey | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 08:38 pm   I agree Comeonguys. I think that's why they showed the whole "journal" thing. Genevieve realizes she really loves Tony, yada, yada, yada! I still don't know what could be on that tape! It seemed as though the others were viewing tapes of their partners experiences. Why would Genevieve be doing something on tape if she is so committed to Tony? It better be something good. That was a great teaser though! |
Joan | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 10:03 pm   The tape is not of her doing anything, it is the tape she recorded as a message to Tony. |
Muse | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 10:11 pm   Yep, I agree. Genevieve has decided she's ready to leave, and she asks Tony to go with her. Total speculation here, but I bet he'll probably think about it for a minute (and want to stay), but will eventually go with her. Even if he's realized their relationship isn't that great *and* really wants to stay, he'll go just because he's been with her so long. Maybe he'll feel sorry for her, and won't want to look like a jerk (or make her feel bad) by dumping her by saying he wants to stay. Of course I really hope that I'm wrong, and that Tony does decide to stay. Or that he goes but also dumps her, or whatever. I know we're only seeing an edited version of her, but I can't stand Genevieve. I got annoyed with Valerie when she started acting all mopey, but at least she stuck it out, and let her boyfriend have his experience and make his own decision. Genevieve probably went on the show thinking the singles would fall for her, and that she'd toy with them a little before ultimately going back to Tony (who would never EVER be tempted, of course, despite all the girls wanting him). When she realized that the single guys *weren't* that interested in her, and that Tony seemed to be having a good time and possibly slipping out from under her control, she probably threw a hissy fit and demanded to leave. Pretty unfair to Tony, IMHO. She shouldn't have agreed to go on the show in the first place. And about the tape - the first thing I thought was sexual content, too. But after seeing the rest of the preview, it seems more like that it was just her saying she wanted to leave, and they just wanted to show it right before she arrived in person? They might not have wanted the other guys to have influenced his decision, or taken away from the shock value of the scene. |
Joan | Friday, November 30, 2001 - 09:45 am   That is probably it Muse, they didn't want the other guys to talk him out of leaving so that the producers could capitalise on the drama more. |
Sawheel17 | Friday, November 30, 2001 - 11:03 am   I agree Muse. At first I thought it might have been a cat-fight between Genivieve and Nikkole or they showed a tape where she was telling the guys and Nikkole off. She just wants to control everyone. Sheesh.When they showed the journal entry, I thought she was actually human and then Bam, back to the real Genivieve. I wanted to slap that smirk off her face when they voted off the guys. She just had to have her way, knowing she wasn't interested and Nikkole WAS about exploring her possibilities. I hope she leaves because she doesn't want ANYONE to have fun. What a B____!!! |
Realfan | Friday, November 30, 2001 - 02:06 pm   I never once thought Genevieve sent him a sex tape or threatened suicide or anything that dramatic. I think she merely tells Tony in her taped message that she's already figured out what they came there to learn, and she is ready to go home because she loves him above anyone. Since Tony needs to agree with such a decision, Mark will pull them both aside to hash it out privately. I really think that's all there is to it, but it's still an interesting development. I highly doubt that one can stay if the other goes. That defeats the purpose and premise of the show. BTW, I thought it was amazing that Genevieve felt jealous over Tony holding hands with another girl--sure didn't take much, did it? And this is the first time she's felt jealous in the entire length of their relationship? Weird! She really needs him under her thumb, doesn't she? |
Kep421 | Friday, November 30, 2001 - 04:13 pm   I haven't been watching this show and last night I flicked the channel chaser over to TI2 and watched a few moments. I got there just as the girls were deciding who to vote off and as I watched the drama unfold, I had this thought: "OMG, Nicoles' little sister is on TI2!!!" The person you all are talking about reminds me of Nicole from BB2... I watched a little more off and on during the rest of the show. I think I'm going to read the rest of these threads and try to catch up for next weeks show... |
Corriecat | Friday, November 30, 2001 - 04:21 pm   I think the tape is just her saying she has decided to leave and for drama they decided to not let the other guys see it. If she has had enough and threatens to leave they should let her go and allow him to stay if he wants. I would love to see her face if he said go ahead but I'm staying. |
Kiersten_Love | Friday, November 30, 2001 - 07:46 pm   Hi, I know for sure that Gen and Tony decide to leave the show, and that they are replaced with another couple. I feel bad that Tony doesn't have the balls, {can I say that word? hmmm...} to let go of such a manipulative and obsessed girl...but when you think about it he is quite weak and needs someone to lead him along lifes many miseries...hope he opens his eyes one day. Kiersten  |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 04:21 am   Kiersten, how do you know for sure? The content of the tape may contain reference to someone or people not on the show. Someone from their life. For privacy reasons they cannot show it. I can easily see her talking about a flirtation, an affair, or an incident and naming this person. |
Carigsby | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 06:23 am   While I was watching Ally last night, there was a new (new as far as I hadn't seen it before) preview for TI2. It said <not verbatim> "one couple gets eliminated and you'll be shocked to find out why". Could it possibly be juicer than her just wanting to leave? |
Moondance | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 07:11 am   MsBat... it is on all the promos... Gen & Tony leave the show and another vouple repleaces them... they are making a big deal about why though... |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 07:21 am   Thanks, Moon. I have only seen one promo leaving it to question. They just said one couple leaves. |
Moondance | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 07:28 am   Yes one couple not one vouple... I was typing fast LOL |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 08:08 am   Damn, I was looking forward to the vouple, even considered starting a thread for speculations on just what one would look like. |
Joan | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 12:51 pm   Maybe she is pregnant! You can still get pregnant with your tubes tied. It is rare but it is possible! I think I would find that "shocking." |
Quietstorm4 | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 01:04 pm   I'm just glad she's leaving. Can you tell I don't like her much? |
Sasha | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 03:40 pm   I think Gen lets Tony Know that she intends on leaving the show because there is no reason to be there.......since she loves Tony so much.(video) The clip we see of Tony just sitting there and Gen says you are scaring me .....is just that. Tony probably thought for awhile saying he is not ready........but eventually out of respect for Gen and the rules of the show he leaves or gets eliminated....because half a couple won't work. |
Moondance | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 03:52 pm   I think you are right on Sasha... and may I say I LOVE your name... I have a kitty named Sasha |
Grooch | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 04:24 pm   Is there any possibility that she proposes to him right there and then? Could that be on the video tape too, so that's why the other guys couldn't see it? |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 05:02 pm   Maybe she admits to being wrong for dragging both of them onto the show. Now that would be unexpected and a shock! |
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