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Seamonkey

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think it says "two" women anywhere or that they must be on the same team.. I see "the" women and "some of the women"..

Just not wanting to get stuck on a two woman team as being the only possibility.

Alaginger

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Shows over.........

Next week is Episode 5.

From the Promo - Jaree is the one who said the "Title line", fussing at Tian.

Next week is Amsterdam (didn't say anything about India or Malaysia).

Manure appears to be piles in a field........and nothing to do with the running of the bulls, or elephant rides as seen in the promo. Later pictures might show differently, later on....but the announcer definitely said Amsterdam.

Alaginger

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Recap of End of Show Ranking for Episode 4 tonight.

1 - Tian/Jaree (took Fast Forward)
2 - Millie/Chuck, Al/Jon tie
4 - Monica/Sheree
5 - Reichen/Chip
6 - David/Jeff
7 - Kelly/Jon
8 - Steve/Dave
9 - Josh/Steve (Eliminated)

Alaginger

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 06:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Obviously you can't depend on past Seasons for spoiling because the Roadblock came first tonight for the very first time in history.

Obviously you can't depend on the video promo for the next Episodes either because there never was a ferry (LOl).

But, we will continue to spoil and speculate, because it is fun.............

Not1worry

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for clarifying that Alaginger, I was getting confused as I watched it. Hmmm...wasn't that just a roadblock and didn't we all decide they are always last??

And obviously just because someone wasn't in the roadblock or detour preview doesn't mean they took the fast forward. Why, oh why, did I fall for that??

Boy, Steve/Josh sure screwed it up this week, just like last seasons father/son team, Dennis/Andrew, wasnt' it?

Alaginger

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't watch last season, or any other season, so I don't know about Dennis/Andrew.......but yes, Josh/Steve sure did mess up this week....and it was mostly Josh that messed up........but, he did finally realize he was being a horses' patooty, and apologized to his Dad.....and even though they came in last, it seems they did some real bonding which is what they said they had come there for. They seemed to be very close in the pictures earlier in this thread where they showed up in Las Vegas for the Premiere Party.

Alaginger

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Promo Vidcaps don't show us too much this week so far, but here they are:

canal1
Millie and Chuck in boat in canal (Amsterdam)

canal2
Tian and Jaree fight over a map in canal

poop1
Supposedly this is the clown in the manure....
however, if anybody has the show taped, could you look at this part and see if both of those are Al and Jon. If only one is a clown, and the other is somebody else.........this could be a roadblock. But I think it is the clowns and is not a roadblock so far.

poop2
Supposedly Millie and Chuck in the manure.
I can't make up my mind if that is Millie or Tian with the blonde hair. I think it is Millie, but the other figure just doesn't look like the back of Chuck, but that person is in a stumbling position, so we don't see their full height.

tjfuss
This is the scene in the car with Jaree driving, and Tian in the back seat........where Jaree snatches the map and says Tian is trying to sabotage them. Also, the voiceover says this quarrel could lead to elimination.....so since he says that, more than likely they are not eliminated or it is a non-elimination round.

Clp

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!

I thought it would make more sense for the roadblock to be first! I just had to second guess it because it had never happened! ARGH!

Anyway, I watched my tape again, and I am 99% sure that both the clowns are in the manure and the second team shown is Kelly and Jon.

I think the manure may just be a Route Marker, kind of like find the clue in the haystack last season.

Alaginger

Friday, June 20, 2003 - 05:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
New CBS blurb answers a little of our questions and gives us some more information:


Next Week on THE AMAZING RACE:

Amid a stream of bitter accusations of sabotage, Tian & Jaree face a complete breakdown and contemplate quitting.

A series of difficult circumstances forces another couple to face the possibility that they may be incompatible, raising the stakes not only for the Race, but for their entire relationship.

A 15-foot pile of cow manure plunges Teams waist-deep in excrement!

Desperate to make a flight, two Teams have only one hour to drive between airports. When they hit traffic, their plans, and possibly their future in the Race, hit a brick wall.

Alaginger

Friday, June 20, 2003 - 05:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, combining this blurb and the video promo for next week, we know T&J are the ones (1) amid bitter accusations of sabotage, (2) face a breakdown, (3) consider quitting. So, more than likely, they will make it since CBS is hyping it so much.

The last statement makes me think that after the Amsterdam trek, they have to catch a plane to India for a roadblock or a pitstop. Two teams try to beat the others by driving one hour to a different airport, and get hit in traffic. Probably one of these two teams is the last one in. One of the teams must be T&J since we see them in a car, fighting over a map but I don't think they are last because of the hype. So who is the other team that would try to do that one hour drive............hmmmmm????

Alaginger

Friday, June 20, 2003 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow around Noon and will be gone for a week. If anybody actually misses me, you can leave a note in my personal file and I can read it when I get back (hint! hint!).

When the new promos start coming out on television in a few days, you guys should have much more to go on to make picks with than I did, but I made my picks already and will not worry about it.

Hippyt

Friday, June 20, 2003 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A series of difficult circumstances forces another couple to face the possibility that they may be incompatible, raising the stakes not only for the Race, but for their entire relationship.

This sounds like Kelly and Jon to me. They are already arguing all the time. The word relationship seems to fit them.

Have fun on your vacation Alaginger! See ya when you get back!

Alaginger

Friday, June 20, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Hippy!!!

A little information for you guys about Amsterdam, taken from another poster at another website.

"there's quite a lot to do in Amsterdam -- other than the "Red Light District". The diamond bourse is there. So are some of Europe's largest flower markets. There are several breweries located there, too. Not only is there a Van Gogh museum, there's the Rijksmuseum (Rembrandt). Maybe there is something to do with the Ann Frank house, too. I've been lucky enough to go there, and I remember a tourguide talking about the "floating dog-and-cat pounds" found on the canals, so maybe there will be some sort of a "find the boat" detour like there was in last season's Vietnam. ::::shrug::::

Additionally, Schiphol Airport in Amersterdam is a major European airport; I'm sure there are plenty of flights to India from there."

Tabbyking

Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i wonder if 'hit a brick wall' is figurative or if the legal eagles are back and driving a stick.....

Puttergirl

Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe this is the week that Wilsonatmd is out of town.

Would someone volunteer to watch the show very closely and tell me right after the show how many envelopes were used? I'm not very good at determining things like that (I don't watch closely enough- I'm adding up scores)! Thanks.

Clp

Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can do it Puttergirl, but I usually tape it and don't watch till about 10 CST. So that may too late if you like to post the scores earlier than that.

Hippyt

Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll do it too,cause I tape the show,and I can double check it. I can get you the results around 9 pm central,it that's ok.

Juju2bigdog

Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alaginger AND wilson gone for a week? What are we going to do?

Puttergirl

Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 08:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Clp and Hippyt. Why don't you both do it and we'll see if you agree. That way we can be sure.

Clp

Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here are the latest ads running on CBS!

Commercial 1

"Some teams go after slippery eels.."

Pic 1: Kelly & Jon in a harbour (most likely in Amsterdam) reading a clue and Kelly has a very shocked look on her face (most likely the detour info where teams have to choose between shovelling manure or sorting eels)

Pic 2: Vat filled with eels (ugh)

Pic 3: Dave picking up and eel and throwing it somewhere (most likely in a bin or something)

Pic 4: An arm picking up an eel and throwing it, only see the sleeve, which is blue with a white stripe

"And the models keep going after each other."

Pic 5: T&J in a room reading map

Pic 6: Jaree confessional (outside, looks like Amsterdam) she has a big smile on her face

Pic 7: Tian & Jaree arguing as they paddle a boat in Amsterdam (like in preview)

Pic 8: Tian & Jaree in car together, Jaree says: "I want to hurt you right now".

Pic 9: Millie & Chuck running on a bridge (in Amsterdam), Chuck is holding a red clue (heading towards roadblock)

*****************************************************************

Commercial 2

"Now it’s time to get into the teams of the Amazing Race".

Pic 1: Millie & Chuck at the airport looking upset (most likely they did not get on the flight they wanted)

Pic 2: Steve & Dave and Jeff & David in an airplane laughing together

Pic 3: Tian & Jaree arguing as they paddle a boat in Amsterdam (like in preview)

Pic 4: Monica & Sheree hugging each other on a pier, one is holding a red clue (roadblock info)

Pic 5: Kelly & Jon in a harbour (most likely in Amsterdam) reading a clue and Kelly has a very shocked look on her face (most likely the detour info where teams have to choose between shovelling manure or sorting eels)

Pic 6: Jon & Al at a clue box by pier looking happy

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Commercial 3/Early Show spot

"TAR lands in Amsterdam where teams wrestle slippery eels and dig for clues where you normally wouldn’t want to".

Pic 1: Plane taking off (either early in morning or at night)

Pic 2: Pier with large sailboat/ship in background (most likely in Amsterdam)

Pic 3: David & Jeff paddling a boat with a map

Pic 4: Vat of eels with an arm reaching in, sleeve is blue with a white stripe

Pic 5: Kelly & Jon in pile of manure, they just found clue and look disgusted, Kelly’s hands are covered in cow dung(he he he)

"And someone gets strapped to a giant windmill" (FAST FORWARD??)

Pic 6: Large windmill with man controlling it

Pic 7: Jon & Al reading a clue (in background large sculpture of a man trapped in a jail?)

Pic 8: Monica & Sheree hugging each other on a pier, one is holding a red clue (roadblock info)

Clp

Monday, June 23, 2003 - 12:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, I am Googling my head off to find some possibilities for next week. It should be easier when vid caps of the 3 new commercial go up, but I am giving it a shot!

This might be the windmill-

windmill

The Sloten Mill is a tower mill, with an octagon from 1847. It is the only mill in Amsterdam that is accessible to the public. The mill lies on the outskirts of Amsterdam.

I will look for more stuff later tommorrow!

Clp

Monday, June 23, 2003 - 01:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Vid caps from another commercial

confused
Monica & Sheree looking a little confused in the canals of Amsterdam

car
One of them shouts, "Why won't this thing move?"

sheree
Sheree outside the car


NOTE: They are still in the Mercedes wagons from last week, so they probably drive somewhere at the begining of the leg.

Hippyt

Monday, June 23, 2003 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmmmm,I see no Reichen or Chip doing any of the challenges??????

Twinkie

Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 06:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That usually doesn't seem to mean anything, hippy.

Of the 4 episodes 4 teams have taken the FF.

Monica/Sheree
Steve/Dave
Steve/Josh
Tian/Jaree

Steve/Josh are gone.

So of the remaining 8 teams, 3 can't use the FF.

Steve/Dave came in just before Steve/Josh last week and they can't use the FF so if they leave the pit stop quite a bit after the others and can't catch up then they would be eliminated. But there is always the problem of bunching, getting lost, etc. If Tian/Jaree really do get lost in the car and they lag behind they also could not use the FF to make up time. Sorry, I'm just trying to make the best picks and it makes it easier for me to spell these things out. LOL

Grannyg

Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Twinkie, I like it when you think out loud. Makes things clearer for me when someone else helps me out!!