Archive through July 25, 2003
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Archive through July 25, 2003
Seamonkey | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:58 am     They finished the competition part first and went off looking for the pit stop, but the clowns went streaking past them because they saw the pitstop and Chip and Reichen hadn't spotted it yet.. Chip and Reichen suggested going in together but the clowns didn't accept that, just kept running and they hit the mat first, R/C jumped on but Phil made it clear that they were one (clowns) and two (R/C) NOT tied for first, and also stressed that JON and AL won the cruise for being first. So Chip and Reichen were second (but obviously they'll be leaving the pitstop at the same time next leg). |
Crazydog | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 10:29 am     I think Chip thought that there was going to be a trip for finishing first so he tried to talk Jon and Al into tying with them so they would all get it. But Phil would have none of that, it was obvious to him that Jon and Al were in the lead, they were walking in as Chip and Reichen raced up. The "that's not fair" line kind of bothered me. It's a race. I did like though how they were trying to shove Millie out of the office. I wanted to slap her for being so incredulous about it. What, you expect someone to just TELL you what to do? |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 10:39 am     Well the line didn't bother me, I understood where it was coming from, just like when Kelly said it wasn't fair that the fish were jumping out of the basket.. I thought it was funny, understandable and definitely something I would give either one of them a very hard time about.. hey, not fair?? If you can't find the pitstop, that's your problem, boys.. Yeah Millie just seems to think this all revolves around using others to get information.. |
Beachcomber88 | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:01 am     Yes, why did they think that the clowns would let them finish first also? What nerve. It's not as if they were working together throughout the whole day and helping each other out. These boys are reminding me too much of the hated Guidos. When they screwed up with the plane in India (Why did they even attempt something like this? Driving 1 HOUR to get to a travel agent you may not even be sure can help?), I was smiling because I thought they were cooked. But then just like in classic TAR with the Guidos, they always seem to come back. I'm hoping their race ends in Guido-like fashion - seeing them alone in Alaska, impossibly far behind all others, slowly and knowingly making their way to a last place finish. |
Crazydog | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:10 am     I actually don't hate them all that much anymore. I really disliked Chip in the beginning, he seemed really childish and angry all the time, but now I see they really aren't that bad. The only team I really like is Kelly and Jon. Chip and Reichen would probably be the least offensive of the rest of them. Beach, for me it is Millie that I would like to see get left behind. In fact, I would like nothing more than to see Chuck leave her in Malaysia where she will be tortured by all of the people who want to put a voodoo curse on her. |
Hippyt | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 01:06 pm     I don't have an opinion one way or the other on these two. I don't think they've done anything all that terrible,it is a race after all. They're just kinda blah,personality-wise. They did a great job catching up this week. They're good racers. I guess I'd be happy if they end up winning,even though they aren't my favs. |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:10 pm     Well they ARE my favs but I didn't see anything wrong.. haven't we all said something wasn't fair.. not really meaning it as a whine just as a cry to the heavens.. after all without that errant cab on the one way street, C/R might well have been out ahead.. |
Tishala | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 05:06 pm     Wow. I didn't know the Guidos came in "last place": I recall them finishing third overall. I can't help thinking that the only thing remotely similar about R&C and the Guidos is a shared predeliction for pederasty [thank you for that bit of consonance, tisha. You're welcome!]. But then again, when someone dismisses Chip as "such a sissy," what can I do? |
Cinder | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:55 pm     The Guidos were last place in the finals. I think that was third. But it was funny that they did not even finish the race because they were SO far behind. They were told the race was over while they were still at the previous pit stop. |
Puttergirl | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 05:10 pm     And they were still declaring they were going to catch up and win!!!!! lol |
Crazydog | Monday, July 21, 2003 - 08:17 am     The finale of the first TAR was hilarious. Phil's voiceover at the beginning about "will the Guidos catch up" - funny. A full 24 hours behind and they were still convinced they were going to make it. They were barely even shown in the finale because they were so far behind. I loved how they got that message in Alaska that the race was over. The blonder Guido was absolutely stunned at the news. And then the camera slowly panned out, leaving them as two little specks in the Alaskan wilderness. Classic. And yes, they did finish third out of 11 teams. But they were dead last by a considerable margin in the finale. And what makes it all the more funny is that they were in such a good position to win, until they inexplicably squandered a 9 hour lead in Thailand so they could have some iced tea and cookies. At a price tag of a million dollars, that has got to be the most expensive tea in history. |
Beachcomber88 | Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:43 am     Yes, I obviously meant they finished last in the final episode. Had they finished dead last overall, we obviously wouldn't be talking about them. I remember the iced tea and cookies, but I don't remember the exact specifics of where all the time went. And if I recall correctly, the Guidos had no idea that they were really far behind - did they think they were in the lead? Ahh, classic TAR and the Guidos. Wonder what the lawyer boys are up to these days. Wish that one of the cable channels would purchase the TAR rights so we can see them all again. Now that we're in TAR 4, anyone think that they'll steal from Survivor and have an All-Star TAR? |
Crazydog | Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:01 am     Beach, the Guidos and Nancy/Emily competed for the fast forward in Thailand by dropping coins into buckets at a temple. The Guidos won it. The pitstop was an eight hour drive away in southern Thailand, and they figured that everyone else would be spending time doing all the tasks. So they decided to relax, and mosey on over when they wanted. They were absolutely stunned when they approached the pitstop and saw all these shoes - they were convinced that they were going to have a huge lead and were surprised that they had in fact finished last. Only Nancy and Emily's mistake/penalty saved them. |
Calamity | Monday, July 21, 2003 - 01:02 pm     Re: the Guidos and their mistake w/the FF - Weren't they running low on funds and opted to take the (slower) bus because it was cheaper then a train or cab? I thought that affected their arrival time as well. Or was that a different leg of the race? Dark secret: I actually don't think the Guidos were that bad (the airport stunt notwithstanding). |
Spear | Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 12:19 am     The Guidos say they took the bus because some locals convinced them that taking a cab was out of the question. Here is a link to the relevant portion of a (very) long interview on TWoP. |
Crazydog | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 08:47 am     Reichen and Chip essentially wasted their fast forward because they got on the wrong road. They were in absolutely no danger of elimination, so it was a costly error. |
Beachcomber88 | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 09:32 am     I probably wouldn't have turned around either. Sometimes it really seems like they have to drive a long way in between tasks. Phil keeps saying "drive 100+ miles..." - that's over two hours! Do the racers have to keep it under the speed limit or they're penalized? The orangutans seemed really cool. Though it wasn't a strategic move for the race, I bet Chip/Reichen won't regret it. I would have loved to do something like this. We'll see if not having the Fast Forward costs them - I think all the other teams haven't used theirs yet. |
Not1worry | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 10:31 am     Could anyone tell how much time the FF bought R/C? It seemed like they got to the pitstop in the middle of the day and everyone else showed up afternoon and early evening. I'll be interested to see the time differences when they start next week. I don't think they wasted the FF. Everyone seemed really close and who knows how long it might have taken them to turn around and find the right road. Millie and Chuck didn't have the option to take the FF, they had to keep plugging away. R/C most likely would not have been elimated, but they would have had to scratch their way back in. Now they have a comfortable lead, although I'm sure they'll bunch up again right away. There aren't that many legs left and it would be a shame to get eliminated without having used the FF. |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 10:41 am     Actually, we cannot say that Chip and Reichen wasted anything.. they simply turned a huge lemon into a refreshing drink.. They've had the bad experience in the past of being totally lost in the woods or wilderness and who knows, they might have missed a banner or something. If they hadn't taken the FF, Kelly and Jon would now be in first and they wouldn't. Kelly and Jon would possibly be better rested (tho I suspect they are just too mean to rest). They got the vacation. They got more rest. They didn't have to climb a slippery, poopy ladder. AND they got the great experience with the orangutans. Yes, it certainly could cost them, but they are still in the race. Where I hope they stay and win. Chuck and Millie's wrong turn cost them two hours (they said this morning on the early show) AND the race. Beach, I know on one season some were penalized for speeding. And there was one country where they wee told they had to have a driver drive after dark and someone might have been penalized for that too. |
Crazydog | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 11:02 am     On TAR2 in Namibia, teams had to drive below 50 mph on the sand road. Chris/Alex and Gary/Dave were penalized for speeding. I believe that's the only time we have been told of any speeding penalties. (I think that might have been the same episode where you could drive yourself or use a driver - the disadvantage to having a driver being the cost.) |
Lumbele | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 11:05 am     How did they know they were on the road for the FF? Did they open that envelope? Don't they have to go for the FF once they open it? |
Crazydog | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 11:11 am     No, you don't have to go for the FF if you open it. In TAR2, Wil and Tara were going to go for the Fast Forward in Hong Kong. We even saw Phil talking about it in front of the giant Buddha statue that was the FF. Ultimately, Wil and Tara decided not to do it because they were afraid Chris and Alex had taken it. It is the Roadblock that can't be changed once you open the envelope. You have to declare who is doing it before opening the envelope. |
Spear | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 11:59 am     I agree that it wasn't a bad decision for Chip and Reichen to use the FF. There is no FF in the final leg. There will be one more team eliminated before that leg and I believe there are two non-elimination legs left. Since there are now three teams that haven't used their fast forward, it means that two teams could potentially "waste" their FF on non-elimination legs. This is no worse than what Chip and Reichen did for this leg. What's worse is that it is likely that two teams will again try to go for the FF at the same time on the last elimination leg. |
Lumbele | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 12:43 pm     Thanks, Crazydog! Must have been asleep when that rule was explained. |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 01:04 pm     Oh and one more plus for R/C.. now they don't even have to spare a second considering taking the FF. (A stretch, but.. true) |
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