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Seamonkey

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ah,, I lost my bonus points long ago, but I also DO NOT want Kelly and Jon to win.

Twiggyish

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I totally dislike Jon and Kelly. I am hoping Reichen and Chip either win or come in ahead of them.

I wouldn't have done any of the challenges shown tonight..sheesh. I don't like heights and deep water!

Tatyana

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like J/K but I also really don't like R/C either so I guess I hope the surfer guys win.

Clowns :( they were my favs

Cinder

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, they were predicted to win in the beginning because we never saw them- so I predict they will be 1st, then R/C, the J/K

Pirate

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoever coined the phrase "Nice guys finish last" was right on. I am so disappointed. I really liked the clowns. Of the remaining teams I hope the goats win. I do not want K/J to win, can't stand them or R/C either.

I don't want this to end like last year where the most obnoxious team won.

Bizee

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Chip was a real arse tonight. Yelling at the cab driver in Korea for not speaking English. They were one of my favs, but dropped off my list tonight.

Costacat

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 06:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dang dang dang! I was SO hoping that Kelly (what a mouth on that one!) and Jon would listen to Phil say "...you're the last team to arrive. I'm sorry to tell you, you've both been eliminated." Dang dang dang!! And I really liked the clowns. Oh well, Chip and Reichen can win and I'll still be happy. Just NOT Kelly and Jon please. Don't do another like last year. I was SO disappointed with that whiner winning!

Curiouscat

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is next week's show the second last or the final episode?

Floydsdad

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well that sucks, the clowns where my team

Floydsdad

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
guess i'll go finesh the laundry :-(

Wilsonatmd

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
2nd to last curious...next week is leg 12. the week after that is the 13th and final leg.

Bracken

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Curiouscat, I think there is one more non-elimination round if I remember correctly, that means that next week will be the last for those.

I was rooting for Reichen & Chip until tonight -- still like Reichen though. I always preferred the Clowns (boohoo). They were gracious to the other teams, treated each other with respect and were kind to everyone.

Chip did a great job of perpetuating the "ugly american" syndrome tonight, huh?

Me thinks that Jon's taunting is beginning to get to R&C. I certainly don't think it is a worthwhile strategy, but it may be working for him.

Whoami

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well crap. Why is it, when it gets down to F4, the favorite team gets eliminated?

Now, as before, we are left with a really annoying team (K/J), a "who's that" team (D/J), and a somewhat annoying, but better than the other team (R/C).

Tishala

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm so happy that my two favorite teams from the very beginning--R/C and J/K--are still in the running! Woohoo! They are fun and exciting pairs and I love the way they interact with one another!

Ric_Munoz

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't where they finish as long as Reichen is part of the final two episodes...yummy! (That Chip thing has such a toxic aura...for the life of me I can't understand how/why(???) Reichen is/was attracted to him!

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 09:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Back from actually watching the show.. I never cared much for the clowns, BUT I sure wish it had been the Goats to go tonight.. Clowns deserved to be still in it much more.

But happy R/C are still in there and want to send Julie Chen to bat them with a newspaper for driving.. grr. I'd guess they'd still be in third place anyway.

I thought the rapelling was odd in that even though Chip hit the bottom way ahead of Jon, up above they made Reichen wait and start at the same time as Kelly.

And I don't like Kelly but didn't like seeing her panic there.. just no fun and don't wish that on anyone

Girlyclown

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It sucks that Jon & Al are gone. For once reality TV had people that weren't about drama. Unfortunatly, those of you that think Jon and Al are annoying will never see that as clowns it is your job to keep things lighthearted and fun. They were never rude to people in any of the countries they visited, nor did they ever play the part of the ugly american tourist. Unlike other teams in this race that think/thought it is/was their right as Americans to demand that people in foreign countries speak English. The circus teaches tolerance for other cultures and personalities better than anything. I would much rather have Jon & Al as ambassadors to foreigners than any of the teams remaining.

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well pit, Girlyclown. I so completely and whole-heartedly agree.

Kappy

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you guys for the recap on tonight's episode. I missed it for the 2nd week in a row, arggh, so it's much appreciated!

For the life of me, I can't understand why Jon & Kelly both have such a need to be awful to other people. Is it insecurity or childhood abuse or what?! Seriously, someone explain it to me!

Max

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My favorite team is gone. The clowns rocked! I LOVED it tonight when they got delayed in Korea and just started clowning around to entertain themselves and others. These two truly represented the right attitude.

On the other hand, when the guys were yelling at the cab driver in Korea and complaining that he didn't speak English, I was hollering at my TV, "You're in KOREA! Why she he speak English?! Why don't YOU learn some KOREAN, you (insert your favorite expletive deleted here)!"

They represented the ugly American tourist that I inevitably run into when traveling and try desperately to avoid. UGH!

Seamonkey

Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 10:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't consider some of the clown antics to be anything BUT Ugly American, like some of their mock accents.. and they weren't on the job, IMO. Not bad guys at all, just irritating to me. None of them are BAD people.

Azlen

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 10:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Why in the world would anyone assume that a cab driver in another country would speak English when you are not even guaranteed a cab driver that can speak English in this country?

Laura11103

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't see why so many people don't like Kelly, I mean, I don't love her, but I have a lot of respect for her, she's done amazing and just the fact that she did that repel with a wounded hand shows me she's a great player who deserves this. That looked soooooooooo scary, I thought the rescuers were gonna have to get her for a minute.

All in all, this is probably the worst A/R so far, it's still good, but the teams haven't been as interesting as the other seasons, especially once the couples go, there's not enough fighting and drama, lol. Remember A/R 1, can't remember their names, but that black couple that broke up in the end, she was awful to him... what fun they were tow watch.

Hermione69

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 12:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I actually like Jon less than Kelly and think she would be a different person without him around. The way he treats her reminds me on several levels of how my ex-husband treated me and how I reacted to him and I don't think they have a healthy relationship, but what do I know? That is just my opinion and maybe it works for them perfectly. I think Kelly has shown phenomenal inner strength in getting through the challenges and never giving up, but she and Jon both seem to have pronounced mean streaks and that is what makes me not like them on the show.

My faves are gone. I liked Monica and Sheree and Tian and Jiaree best. I do like the goats though! Although I have seen them lose their cool on occasion, by and large, they seem to have held on to their senses of humor, like when they were making fun of themselves for having trouble with the lifeguard challenge. I just get good vibes about them.

I get very mixed signals about Reichen and Chip. They've shown behaviors that haven't sat right with me, like the cab incident last night, but by and large I get the feeling they are good guys.

I really liked the clowns a lot as well. They worked together so well and were so supportive. I never saw either of them blame the other when things didn't go their way. Their clown antics got a little old, but didn't bother me. I think it was a stereotype they played up to amuse people and maybe relieve tension.

Right now I want Dave/Jeff to win and Chip/Reichen to place second.

Calamity

Friday, August 08, 2003 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This season I was fairly indifferent to most of the teams - liked a few, disliked a couple - but never did find a favorite team that I really wanted to win. But TAR is so exciting that that doesn't matter. Last night I clapped and cheered and in the end sniffled a little. All in all, it was a terrific episode.

Sorry to see Jon and Al go. They kinda rubbed me the wrong way early on but I grew to respect their good sportsmanship and great attitudes. Nothing against R/C but I found that I was hoping J/A could sneak in under the wire somehow.

I like Reichen but as for Chip...I've had my doubts about him and last night's rude display finally turned me against him for good. I wouldn't be terribly disappointed if they won but neither would I be thrilled.

Jeff's cool (and I think he's left-handed so that scores him bonus points in my book), Dave's a little obnoxious but still likeable (Did you see him checking out the female greeter at the Pit Stop last night? He's shameless, lol). These two seem so aimless at times that it would be hard to get either excited or aggravated by them winning. The funny thing is, they themselves seem to recognize their tendency to goof up but have a good sense of humor about that. I wouldn't mind if they win even though they aren't my dream team.

Which leaves...K/J. If someone had told me even a few weeks ago that I would be hoping for a K/J win, I'd have completely scoffed at him or her. I'll defend this unpopular position with two factors - 1) I really admire how Kelly seems to be having fun while still being serious about the race. (I was cracking up at her waving to Jon while he was in the shark tank.) 2) Pure gender bias - I want a girl to win. So sue me :) .


Laura11103: Do you mean the infamous Lenny and Karyn? I can still hear her, "Leeeeennnyy!".