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Pamy | Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 10:28 pm     Alaginger, I think you mean AR1 had 4 non e shows |
Alaginger | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:09 am     Yes Pamy, typo...........THANKS!!! The Summary should read: Summary AR1 had 4 Non E shows AR2 and AR3 each had 3 Non E shows None of the Non E shows happened before Episode 6 |
Alaginger | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 09:24 am     This is how the teams lined up with the way they came in last week compared to the Ferry picture. At Ferry (in pictures) Monica/Sheree --- #2 last Episode Reichen/Chip ---- #3 Tian/Jaree ------ #4 Jon/Al ---------- #6 David/Jeff ------ #7 Steve/Dave ------ #9 So being near the top, or way down on the bottom last week, makes no difference at the Ferry. They are all bunched together and mad at T/J and R/C for jumping line. The three teams that are missing from the pictures (but could be just out of sight) are: Josh/Steve ------ #1 Last Episode Kelly/Jon ------- #8 Millie/Chuck ---- #5 If these three teams are not just out of sight, they are either way ahead of the rest and headed to the racetrack already, or they are way behind making it to the Ferry to get to Marseilles. Actually, I have not been able to make this data help me with my picks any.......but I thought I would put them in here for you guys, in case you can make anything out of it. |
Alaginger | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 10:19 am     Copied this from another poster's finding at "The Amazing Race Sucks". Has a really good concept about video backgrounds. "Now obviously the show is edited after the race is complete and the editors will add whatever snipit complements the current episode regardless of when it really occured in the race. Anyhow, something struck me as odd when I saw the interviews from last week's episode and I rewatched them. If you remember, the race ended in Austria. Steve/Dave, Dave/Jeff, Kelly/Jon and Cindy/Russell all had interviews with a Knight's suit of armor in the room. Nothing unusual about that in Europe. However, Monica/Sheree are shown with hindu articles in the background and we know India's on the travel list. The most interesting one is of Jon/Al. Behind them is a partition with what appears to be Japanese characters and drawings. Now granted, these may be from Sequestorville or perhaps a pitstop that has more exotic rooms than we've seen; however, I believe these are very good clues that M/S don't exit the next episode that appears to still be in Europe and that Jon/Al stay on even longer than that (Japan being further on the path than India)." |
Hippyt | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 10:40 am     That is some seriou speculation,and it makes a lot of sense. I'm gonna have to look at my tape later today. |
Pamy | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 01:46 pm     Alaginger..You're goooood!!!!!!! |
Alaginger | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 02:00 pm     Pamy........I'm not that good. I found that spoiler just minutes after I had made my picks for the TVCH games. I went right back and asked Bob to change my picks for DEADPOOL. I haven't noticed anybody asking for a "change in picks" in Puttergirl's game, so I don't want to start something. I'm just to quick for my own good (LOL). |
Puttergirl | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:40 pm     I take changes in picks from anyone right up until the show begins!!!! So feel free to change. Just don't blame me if your original picks were right!!!! |
Hippyt | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:47 pm     OK,well,all I can say is the guy who wrote that thread either needs some glasses or was on drugs! Monica and Sheree are shown in a room with a silver candalabra,and a statue of an orchestra director with his baton raised. Where he got Hindu out of that,don't ask me. Russel and Cindy are shown in the same room just minutes later. I never found a clip of Jon/Al,but doesn't matter,there is no way the producers would wait that long to tape a confessional about a part of the race from several legs ago. Gotta give the guy an A in creativity though! |
Alaginger | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 07:30 pm     I went back to the site where I picked that information up, Hippy, just to see if anybody replied to this guy's post in a negative way. One person got on there and said they were new, and had noticed the same thing, but didn't want to step on any toes.....but they saw the Japanese screen behind Jon/Al. Sounded like they captured it in picture, and the next poster said...."video picture please"...so as soon as a picture comes up, I'll bring it over here. This person didn't seem to see the Monica/Sheree thing....so I'm wonder why would the first poster make something up about one team, and not about another. Maybe there is a different promo he/she is referring to. Meanwhile, somebody has posted 3 different commercial ad videos, and called them out verbally, but no pictures. I'll run grab that thread and bring it here, but I prefer the pictures. I'll keep watching for those Oh, and thanks Puttergirl, but I'm not changing until I see a pic of Monica/Sheree in front on Hindu stuff. Hippy has be skeptical now!!! |
Alaginger | Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 07:35 pm     Television Commercial Previews - 3 of them: one short, one long, and one Champ Series Racing Commercial. Short Commercial Announcer: Get into the teams and the adventure of the all new Amazing Race. -Tian/Jaree high five at the airport. -Jon/Al leave the pit stop, joyfully shouting when they open the clue. -Reichen/Chip are hiking through a forest. *This is probably part of the Detour.* -A blue car circles the race track, I can't tell who it is. Long Commercial Announcer: Every minute counts when you're trying to win The Amazing Race. -Cars are driving through a city. -Reichen/Chip are hiking through a forest. -Either Monica or Sheree is shouting on the race track. The other one would obviousy be driving. *For anyone trying to get points in the Pick The Bootees game, I'll try to figure out who it is and edit it in later.* -A blue car crosses the finish line and someone waves a checkard flag. -Picture of a Globe positioned toward the North Pole in the camera. Announcer: So why are Chip and Reichen refusing to take this flight? -Reichen/Chip in Marseilles, maybe outside of the airport. -Reichen/Chip enter plane and refuse to stay on. -Either Reichen or Chip says "I'm not taking the risk" while exiting the plane. And finally the Champ Series Racing Commercial... Racing Commercial Announcer: Thursday on The Amazing Race... -Reichen/Chip open clue, it might be near that port shown in the end of episode preview. Announcer: ...Repel down a mountain... -Someone repelling, either Kelly, Millie, Tian, or Jaree. *This is probably the other part of the Detour.* Announcer: ...Take a spin in a race car... -Blue car going around the race track. -Jon/Al running through a tunnel. Announcer: ...Face unexpected obstacles... -Reichen/Chip in Marseilles, maybe outside of the airport. -Picture of an airplane going down. -Reichen/Chip refuse to stay on plane. Announcer: ...And find out why one team won't take this flight. -Monica/Sheree running through the airport. -Jon/Al running down wooden bridge from the last Pit Stop. - Signifies there was some type of Picture shown. |
Clp | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 01:40 am     OK guys, I am battling some insomnia and I did some MAJOR researching tonight! I think the next leg might go down as follows; Depart Gmunden and head to the race car roadblock. This is the area with the least amount of info and the one I feel the least secure about in predicting. Some other boards have settled on this being Le Mans. I can go with that. The reason I feel unsure about this is from what I have found, Detours tend to come first. The race car is pretty apparent as the roadblock because of the Chuck clips. The main reason I think the roadblock comes first is that Le Mans is pretty out of a logical travel path by rail from Austria to Marsielles which is determined to be part of this leg from the previews and vidcaps. The new commercials also show Reichen & Chip on a plane at some point. Taking a train to Le Mans and then catching a flight to Marsielles fits right in so I am going with this scenario.
Sheree cheering on Monica who is in the racecar? After Le Mans, fly to Marsielles. Pick up car and head to ferry. Line up at ferry (more bunching!). Ferry leaves in the AM, first in line, first on boat. Here is the big line controversy. Apparently, according to the commercials, everyone lines up in the cars but Tian and Jaree cut to the front of the line. Ferry to the site of the detour, which appears to be rappeling. I think this is the detour because there is a vidcap of Reichen & Chip running through some woods that look like the same place the vidcaps show to be the rappeling site.
R & C running through the woods
Al rappeling
Chuck(?) rappeling These look to be in the same place. I did some researching and came up with a few places near Marsielles that could be where they rappel. Corsica - island off the south of France, Monte Cinto; peak, 8,891 ft (2,710 m) high, NW Corsica, France, NW of Corte. It is the highest point on Corsica. Besancon, France - Mt. Sainte Victorie - a rough pyramid whose apex has been pulled off-centre, lies 10km east of Aix. Ringed at its base by the dark green and orange-brown of pine woods and cultivated soil, the limestone rock reflects light, turning blue, grey, pink or orange. In the last years of his life Cézanne painted and drew Ste-Victoire more than fifty times, and, as part of his childhood landscape, it came to embody the incarnation of life within nature. Jura Mountains - Extending for 360 km in an arc on both sides of the Franco-Swiss border, the Jura Mountains stretch from the Rhone River to the Rhine. While the range lies mostly in Switzerland, a good part of the western portion lies in France. A popular year-round resort area, the Jura range offers a wealth of small lakes, gorges, caves, forested mountains and waterfalls. Chateau d'lf - There are two old forts that were built in the 13th century to guard the port, and you can take a boat out to the Chateau d’lf, a 16th century prison on a small island that Alexander Dumas uses as the setting for The Count of Monte Cristo. My two favorites are Corsica and the Chateau d'lf! But I think it is Corsica! Sorry for the long post but I really wanted to share these late night internet ramblings with y'all to see what y'all thought!! One last thing, I am defintely leaning toward Kelly & Jon using their FF this leg because they are in 8th place (Steve & Dave are in 9th, but have already used their FF) and because we have not seen them in the commercials at all! Thanks for reading and spoiling with me! |
Clp | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 01:53 am     Here are some pictures of Corsica that I found that look similar to the vidcaps. It is interesting, because I found these pics on a site promoting Corsica Raid, which is an annual outdoor adventure race. This seems like a logical place for the producers to pick because of the built in course and instructors. The annual race is like Eco Challenge.
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Alaginger | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 07:37 am     Wow Clp!!! That is awesome. You really outdid yourself!!! I like everything you said, including I feel shaky about the Roadblock being first. According to the others who have watched the show, that is not normal.....just like you said. GREAT JOB!!! |
Alaginger | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 08:15 am     Back to trying to straighten out the spoiler about Monica/Sheree and Jon/Al in the confessionals. Finally got some pics. From last week's show: Three confessionals with candle/suit of armor: Kelly/Jon, Jeff/David, Steve/Dave
Three confessionals outside: Reichen/Chip, Tian/Jaree, Josh
One confessional with a different statue and a different type of candle.
I have to agree with Hippy ... I don't see anything Hindu there! (unless there is another shot floating around out there...I think this was not a spoiler) Three pics of Jon/Al: In the one confessional notice that Jon's shirt matches the collar of the shirt he is wearing in front of the large building singing Figaro. These 2 pictures were obviously from the same Episode. But the other picture appeared in that Episode and has a chinese? screen behind it, and there is a lot of speculation out there that this is a spoiler that Jon/Al make it much further in the game.
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Alaginger | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 09:12 am     Also, the original poster of the Monica/Sheree and Jon/Al spoiler has posted again and has changed his/her mind about Monica/Sheree...but not Jon/Al. Here's that post. "Thanks for all your hard work on this TJ (that's the person that captured all the pics) I'll retract my statement about M/C being in India. I thought the soldier statue looked Indian to me, but you can see the same candles behind Cindy. So it's either in Austria or Sequestorville. Think Jon/Al is legit though. Be nice if they had a big banner in the background which says "Welcome to Japan" As I said, it may just be a room in another country with an oriental theme, but I doubt it. If indeed this pitstop is in Japan, then that should put the clowns in no worse than 4th position IMHO." Another poster right after that says the pictures look more Chinese than Japanese. |
Hippyt | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 09:43 am     I was going to say the same thing the poster above said. There is a shot of Russ/Cindy in the same room,with the candles. I swear,I looked so hard for that clip of Jon/Al on my tape. May have to try again. That is really odd. Great job Clp,I agree Kelly/Jon should be going for FF this week. |
Alaginger | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 09:52 am     Okay .... adding to Clp's digilent review above: The teams get somewhere (probably Marseilles) by plane because here are 3 shots of an airport.
However; Chip elects to get off the plane because it isn't worth the risk ---- a risk of flying or a risk of losing time in the race because the plane is held-up for repairs???
Chip picks up his bag and says it's not worth the risk. Then the cars start lining up at night-time at a ferry site, waiting for the ferry to start in the morning.
Josh standing around outside the car, throwing something. Looks like they are in line for something, and they are bored.
Voiceover says they sleep in the cars to be first in line, but Dave is looking at a map or playing a GameBoy or something.
Someone drives up early in the a.m My summary of the above pictures: "The teams park their cars in line for the ferry in Marseille late at night, sleep in the cars to be first in line the next morning, and Tian&Jaree pull up in the morning and park ahead of the line, hence causing a confrontation with the others." I found a poster on another board who completely agrees with Clp on the Corsica stopover. Here's that post: "I am also leaning towards a Corsica stopover, and here's why: The roadblock is always the last task before the pitstop and I have difficulty believing that the teams would drive from Le Mans to Marseilles and then take a ferry to Africa...though possible, I think that the India spoiler is correct and it is the location of the next leg. And so, the best scenario would be a flight out of Vienna or Salzburg (whichever is closest to GmundEN) to Marseilles. At the airport there is a car waiting for them where they drive to the port and wait for the ferry to Corsica. The fast boats take about 2hours, they perform the detour (rapelling or a forest obstacle course) then ferry back to Marseilles and drive to Le Mans, do the roadblock and then check into the pitstop." |
Alaginger | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:54 am     Oh .... and don't forget that Reichen and Chip are also accused of breaking in line!!! TEAMS BECOME ENRAGED WHEN TWO TEAMS JUMP TO THE HEAD OF A LINE ON "THE AMAZING RACE 4," THURSDAY, JUNE 19 |
Clp | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 04:16 pm     I started another thread in the spoiler section which is a timeline of past races so we can look and compare for this season. In all 3 seasons, the Roadblock always comes last. So my above scenario is probably out of order, but I am still leaning towards Corsica for the rappelling. |
Not1worry | Monday, June 16, 2003 - 07:10 pm     That's interesting. I figured it usually came last - but thanks for documenting it! |
Faux_Pas | Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 10:56 am     Quick clarification on Clp's post - Mt. Ste. Victoire is near Aix-en-Provence, not Besancon. There are two ways to get to the top - a long sloping leisurely climb that can be done by someone in moderately good shape and the hard way by climbing up the steep side. I've done the sloping way twice (years ago). If that is the mountain and those are the choices, rapelling (sp?) is the quicker way. If they do go to Marseilles, this would be a good choice. |
Clp | Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 02:21 pm     The press release for Episode 6 has been published. Here are the descriptions for Eps. 5 and 6 so we can see them together and in order. Episode 5
Quote:"You Are Just Deliberately Trying To Make Us Lose" "A TEAM QUESTIONS THEIR RELATIONSHIP WHEN CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE RACE PIT THEM AGAINST ONE ANOTHER ON "THE AMAZING RACE 4," THURSDAY, JUNE 26 A team contemplates the status of their personal relationship, on THE AMAZING RACE 4, Thursday, June 26 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is the host of the series. A series of difficult circumstances brings another couple face-to-face with the stark realization that they may be "incompatible" -- raising the stakes not only for the Race but for their entire relationship. Meanwhile, another team faces a complete breakdown and contemplates quitting amid a stream of bitter accusations of sabotage, and teams end up waist deep in a 15 foot pile of cow manure."
Episode 6
Quote:"I Could Never Have Been Prepared For What I'm Looking At Right Now" "THE WOMEN ON THE RACE HAVE TO DEAL WITH CULTURE SHOCK ON THE TRAINS OF BOMBAY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 4," THURSDAY, JULY 3 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK Some of the women have to fight off advances from the men in India, on THE AMAZING RACE 4 Thursday, July 3, (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is the host of the series. On the crowded trains of Bombay, the women are less than pleased by the close interest they receive from some of the locals. Meanwhile, having faced recent, deep strains in their relationship, one team forges a surprising new attitude and works together to overcome the past. Meanwhile, one team pursues a risky flight option that all the other teams refuse."
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Riviere | Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 02:44 pm     Thanks for the Amazing news! Now I can spend 2 weeks guessing which teams this refers to! |
Not1worry | Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 02:55 pm     2 women fighting off men? Can only be Monica/Sheree or Tian/Jaree. I'd think that Chuck or Jon would defend their women partners, although you never know the circumstances. Neither of the women teams strikes me as putting up with too much crap from any strangers showing "close interest". |
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