Archive through July 25, 2003
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Archive through July 25, 2003
Moondance | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:42 pm     >>OK, construction worker, maybe - at least that requires some skill<< That's insulting to my profession. I have 2 college degrees in my field. It requires much knowledge and skill. I deal with someones body and health for goodness sakes! |
Beachcomber88 | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:49 pm     Crazy, you're exactly right. And like I said above, sorry Moon if I offended you. If Chuckie lived here in Los Angeles and I took a look at his past jobs, I'd say he's trying to become an actor. But we know that I-freeze-if-I'm-under-pressure Chuckie couldn't possibly be doing that! I wouldn't be surprised if I learned his construction worker job ended up being a few day stint of helping someone build a shed in a Tennessee backyard. And if his hauler job was helping a few college students move stuff. Get thee some conviction, Chuckie! |
Moondance | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:52 pm     He can't commit to sex or Millie how is he to hold down a job?! |
Beachcomber88 | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:52 pm     As do I, Moon. I'm sure there are many qualified personal trainers all across America, and it sounds like you are one of them. But I see flyers all the time at my gym soliciting people to become personal trainers by simply taking a 2 day course over the weekend. That's where my impression comes from. And again, as I said before, I don't mean to offend. |
Moondance | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 02:55 pm     It drives me nuts when I see that happening. There is so much more responsibility to be a trainer than people realize. BTW I am in LA too |
Hippyt | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:18 pm     LOl,I just had a thought,he freezes up shooting a bow and arrow,imagine what would happen if he actually tried to have sex! |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:35 pm     We already know, Hippy.. he gets panic attacks in tight places |
Hippyt | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:46 pm     oh,you nasty! I just spit eggroll on the screen! LOL |
Puttergirl | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:56 pm     Seamonkey very pleased with herself over that one:
lol, Seamonkey!!! |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 18, 2003 - 08:45 pm      |
Tabbyking | Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 10:19 am     while i admire them for their strong faith and their belief they should remain virgins until they are married (whether to each other or different people), i just don't understand the not being 'sure' they want to commit after 12 years of dating. we saw from the party they attended for the first aired episode of the amazing race 4 that they were still together--and she looked very pretty in a simple little black dress...but if you aren't sure by 12 years, that should tell you something. |
Bastable | Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 08:46 pm     Am I the only one who has noticed that the show's editors keep dropping hints that Chuck may be gay? Like, when Chip and Reichen were telling their love story, they would cut to Chuck looking pensive and sad? And am I the only one who thinks it's a real possibility, given that he's held out on that great girl for 12 years? |
Seamonkey | Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 09:20 pm     Anything's possible.. look at all the men and women who were straightjacketed (pun intended) into straight relationships/marriages/kids before realizing they were not straight. And joking aside, I have no problem with them abstaining and whatever their relationship is, as long as it is mutually desirable. I will repeat what I said at the very beginning of the season.. one of them was 17 when they met and Millie worked in quite a few countries outside the US, while Chuck hadn't been outside the US in those areas, so that would say to me that 12 years isn't the actual time when they've been dating, living in the same area AND abstaining. I think the real issue is his fear of committment and I'm not sure that either one of them totally respects the other.. at least she seems to see him as not so competent and fragile emotionally, from her voiceovers. |
Spear | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 02:43 am     I go with the simpler, more obvious explanation -- the producers weren't trying to show that Chuck was sad, they were trying to show that he was uncomfortable. There's a clip on the CBS web site where he explains in an interview (after Reichen's revelation) that although he doesn't want to judge Reichen, he "doesn't agree with that lifestyle". |
Lumbele | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 06:21 am     Bastable, what great girl? ;) Joking aside, my take was too that they tried to show Chuck's discomfort with Reichen's revelation. As I recall neither he nor Millie joined the others in their congratulatory applause. |
Juju2bigdog | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:26 am     My impression also was Chip and Reichen's revelation did not jibe well with Chuck's beliefs. |
Babyruth | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 12:27 pm     Chuck seems more asexual than homo or hetero. He also seems rather depressed, in general. |
Bastable | Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 03:50 pm     Yeah, you're right, it could very well be that even after he got to know C&R, he was still prejudiced about how they ought to live their own lives. But in my experience, it's often the people who howl the loudest about their disgust for that "deviant" lifestyle who are the ones I run into five years later--and they've come out of the closet, loud and proud. I guess that may be what I was seeing in Chuck. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 12:15 pm     This was from an email list I'm on (Inspire) and this was today's quote and it made me think of Chuck n Millie: COMMITMENT There are only two options regarding commitment, you're either IN or your OUT. There is no such thing as life in-between. - Pat Riley |
Bastable | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 10:02 pm     Seamonkey, I think the whole problem with the relationship is that there's no in-and-out at all.  |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 10:59 pm     Precisely  |
Crazydog | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 08:40 am     I am overjoyed that we have lost Millie and Chuck. Easily for me the most dislikeable team this season. It was so obvious to me that Chuck was ready to dump her given his comments and glances, and that it was her that was unwilling to let go. But I saw them on the Early Show this morning, and believe it or not, they are STILL together. How sad. During the race they seemed to realize that they were completely incompatible, and that that's not what they want in a marriage. Now here we are months later and they are still with each other. I do think that they feel like they have invested so much time in each other that it is easier to stay together and be a little miserable and try to "work it out" than to try and find somebody new. I just hope that outside of the race that they are much nicer people. While she was on the show, she really came off as a controlling shrew. |
Beachcomber88 | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 09:20 am     I agree. I really wasn't that bothered by them at the beginning of this season. But as the race grew tighter and the stress level higher, Millie just self-imploded. I feel sorry for Chuckie. He doesn't seem happy and when Millie breaks down and cries discussing their relationship ("I just want him to be happy"), he doesn't have anything supportive or positive to say. 12 YEARS and you can't decide? I'll be interested to read their post race interview. I thought it was totally pathetic last night how Millie kept desperately saying "I can't read maps!" and wanted Chuckie to read the map while he was driving! They both looked so tired at the end, I thought Chuckie was going to fall asleep and put the car in the ditch or hit someone. She knows that she screwed up and cost them the race. No sympathy from me here. |
Seamonkey | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 10:51 am     He was pathetic on the Early Show.. Millie took all the blame for using and he'd say, "no, it was both of us", that was ok and she also pointed out that they went into the race well aware of their sharply different personalities and approaches to the race but she says that isn't such a problem in real life. They had to address the name-calling by Kelly. Said they had never heard it while IN the race, in fact first heard it at a party and the bad part was all the apologies (from Kelly? Didn't say). They said that they'd been up late every night studying airline and train schedules and got little sleep. And the one wrong turn was the clincher.. they went one hour in the wrong direction, had to turn back, so lost two hours. That alone lost them the leg of the race. But they got a good zinger in.. said Kelly and Jon were meaner to each other than to the others they made fun of and they thought that was sad. At the end, the interviewer was bugging Chuck about TWELVE YEARS? Make a committment.. Chuck still sounds about as likely to commit to marriage as an amoeba.. |
Crazydog | Friday, July 25, 2003 - 11:09 am     Yes, Chuck should have just let her take it. Even in trying to take blame they can't agree. Staying up late and studying every possible train and airline schedule might have given them a small advantage but the fatigue was obvious and that's what did them in. What good is it to study airline schedules at a pitstop when you have absolutely no idea where you are going? At this last pitstop they didn't even leave the country. It might be Millie's opinion that Kelly and Jon were mean to each other, but I see nothing but good-spirited poking. Kelly and Jon seem to have a much healthier relationship to me because they seem to mostly be on the same page. Chuck and Millie are complete opposites. Kelly and Jon seem very much in love with each other, which is more than I can say for Millie and 12 year Chuck. Now I think THAT'S sad. |
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