Archive through November 02, 2002
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Archive through November 02, 2002
Wiseolowl | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 07:58 pm     Must say these two were alot easier to take tonight -no brother or twin bashing at all - a pleasant change -think perhaps they've acquired a little humility after last week which was IMO was maybe what was lacking before. |
Bastable | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 08:03 pm     I think the show's editors also had a lot to cram into an hour. I'm sure a lot of unpleasant stuff had to get left out. Amazing how they control our perceptions of the players, isn't it? |
Tabbyking | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 08:12 pm     sometimes i think they let unpleasant things in, too, and don't put in the good things! editing can really change how we feel about the players--from week to week. perhaps the lawyer gals really were okay most of the time and we just saw their whining or bad driving. they could have been pretty smart and quick in other things. or maybe they really were as we saw them all the time; it's hard to tell. i am thinking ian must have his really decent and kind moments, too, and we just aren't seeing any of them! they could end up being the winners, lol,but with all the editing done way after the entire race ended, the editors can put any 'spin' they want on things. i would love to see even a fraction of the hundreds of hours that didn't make tv, wouldn't you? i haven't seen tonight's show yet, but i am hoping the twins and the brothers do okay, because they are all quite likable. from what i have read, several of the other teams get into real difficulty, so it sounds like an edge of my seat episode! should i just move to the suck room now, or can i wait until the show's over? |
Hummingbird | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 10:21 pm     I have been meaning to ask you old timers on the site, what is the meaning of the suck room? |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:25 pm     Ah for those of us who play the guessing game each week as to who will be first and last (and mediawh*re game too) if we suck at it (which many of us have been doing weekly) we crawl off to the suck room thread to console each other.. we have such a room for survivor as well.. |
Lycanthrope | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 01:17 am     This is the Aaron/Arianne thread still, right????? Okay, Arianne is the strong one of the two. It's up to her to keep things together. Aaron is the emotional one. He wears his feelings on his sleeve. Not that that's a bad thing, but it could hurt the team's chances in the future. I won't bash Aaron for crying, but I will applaud Arianne for being there to comfort the guy. Some people just need more support from their family/friends than others. Aaron is one of those people. It doesn't lessen him, in fact it humanizes him. I didn't like him until this episode. He showed me he has feelings and a will to compete. He has true heart. I still want John V. and Jill to win, but I find myself marginally liking this team now. |
Not1worry | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 09:07 am     I did want to smirk a little...there was no talk of twin-hunting, they were just trying to stay alive. I hope they continue to concentrate more on their own race and not being so snarky. A little humility makes this team soooo much more likeable. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 09:24 am     i only remember comments from them about the twins on one episode, and they weren't the only ones making comments at the time. i haven't seen any twin-hunting from this team since that one time. remember the first race, when everyone (other teams and those of us at home!) hated team guido from about the second day on? and wil from the second race?! and let's not forget frank from the first race, too. (well, okay, let's forget frank! lol) over-all, these groups seem to be less hateful of each other, although i can see where disliking ian might be hard to hide. the comments i have heard lately are from teams hoping ian isn't ahead of them in the race. as much as i 'dislike' ian, and as much as i thought the two attorneys were pretty 'dumb blonde acting', without either of these teams, there is less excitement. sort of like having robb on survivor...you wanted him gone, but some of the 'craziness' has gone, too, because we loved to see his bad-boy character, even if we didn't care for him. it made for exciting t.v. i am loving the brother team and glad they came in first. |
Wiseolowl | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 11:24 am     Tabby - your comment about only remembering one episode where they trashed the twins may be right. That's not my recollection though - but haven't taped the show to prove it. It seems to me that it has been a re-occuring theme since the second or third episode. Depending on the editing, though, they seemed to have stopped to their credit but as I commented in the twins thread, their behavior has diminished them in my HO. |
Brenda1966 | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 11:52 am     Oh Wise one, I am thinking it was at least two episodes that contained the "let's get the twins" stuff, and maybe even 3. I guess it is easy to worry about "getting" other teams when you're in the lead, but since these two have been next to last two weeks in a row they are just scrambling to survive. |
Pottedplant | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 12:07 pm     I am pretty sure also, that it was far more than one episode of twin bashing. I have not liked this team from the beginning, & last night just confirmed it. But at least they did not give up. |
Lumbele | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 12:48 pm     Twin-bashing has been going on with this team longer than one episode. It was what brought me around to rooting for the lads. Scrambling to survive has taken the wind out of their sails, but I don't get the feeling it has made them humble. If or when they catch up again that arrogance will resurface. Aaron's tears IMHO were tears of pure frustration. Having said all this, I also have to admit a begrudging respect for them for not lying back, but plucking on and staying alive in the game. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 12:59 pm     well, i recall one episode where A and A made the actual comments--among others in their 'then alliance'-- and the second episode it was zach and flo, with A and A in the group but not saying anything... but whatever...there is no reason to 'hate' people we don't know! how do we know the twins or the brothers haven't made comments that haven't been aired? editing does have its privileges, lol of course aaron's tears were of pure frustration! i would probably be crying-- and kicking the tires, too, so he looked pretty normal to me.;>) |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 01:14 pm     also, last night was only the 5th episode, so if it has been going on since the second or third episode for 'far more than one episode', or recurring since then, it would have been last week and this week, too. i'm not saying it didn't happen, but to be fair it didn't happen in as many episodes as some of us seem to remember. i also don't understand why the other teams, who were agreeing with A and A in the episode--where i remember A and A saying some things-- aren't being badmouthed like A and A are. if something happens and you go along with it, or don't do something to stop it, aren't you guilty of it, too? sort of the gang mentality thing? i recall the others making agreeing noises. i think had i been there, i would have said something like, 'c'mon they're just another team', or tried to ease the statements...maybe only because there are always cameramen present, and let's face it, this is partly a 'popularity contest' with the fans!...however, i will admit, had the comments been about ian, i would have felt he deserved them, although i probably would not have been the one saying things out loud. i just might not have come to his defense because, as someone (brenda?) so aptly put it, he is 'consistent'. ian is a man who has been rude, abrasive, and acting as if women are second-class citizens since day one. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 01:26 pm     i went back and saw that brenda used the term 'determined' for ian. she's right, because it seems there isn't much to say about the guy that isn't negative, so 'determined' was one of the few acceptable words about ian. :>) |
Pottedplant | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 01:47 pm     well I went back & saw the recap for the 10/16 episode, & AA were twin bashing, & I do not beleive it began then. I think if you like AA, you are less willing to remember those twin/bb bashing times, & if you do not like AA you will remember it more. The same as if you like any team, you will root for them & have selective memory. I did not begin rooting for the twins till AA started the meanness, I think that was around episode2. Cant remember epi 1. Whatever, we are captive to the editing somewhat. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 02:06 pm     a re-cap could have been taken from anywhere during the filming and editing process. i don't favor A and A over other teams--hey, i love the brothers, but if you recall, they were the ones bashing the twins along with A and A on the second episode!! and since then, they have worked (allianced)with the twins. so things are constantly changing with all the teams. the only team i truly dislike because they seem the same always, so are more probably like that in real life, are ian and teri. i remember feeling i had to defend john vito and jill at the beginning because people were instantly jumping out there and talking about how the team was 'using' 9/11... and they 'didn't want to hear all about it every episode' --this after only seeing the FIRST episode!!--i have not heard one word of 9/11 from those two since the first episode where each team spoke of how and why they applied for amazing race. they have not 'used' 9/11, and how would that affect a race for heaven's sake, anyway?! and had they talked again of 9/11, what's wrong with that? how quickly so many forget that 9/11 was (and still should be, IMHO) remembered forever. how a team got on amazing race does not determine the outcome. it's a race!! okay, off my soapbox (read that treadmill) and back to the snickers bowl... |
Lumbele | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 02:10 pm     Tabby, I should have made my "pure frustration" remark clearer, I guess. What I *meant* by that was that it seemed like the temper tantrum kind of cry. Things-are-not-going-my-way and those-dumb-twins-passed-us liquid kinda frustration. Obviously you are an A/A fan and I wish the 3 of you the best of luck - as long as they don't win.  |
Wiseolowl | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 02:15 pm     It is only natural and indeed part of the success of the show is that we all choose favorites to root for - without that dimension it would be a pretty sterile exercise. The challenge , it seems to me is not to get so consumed in that part of the game that we forget that it is really only a game. The winners will be the ones who do win - in this game it is partly luck - but there is alot of skill involved too. Having said that, A@A are among my least favorites. It's not a question of hating anybody - it's just like Not1Worry said - they are snarky and to add another word - they are smarmy in most people's opinion - and because it's a game designed to entertain us viewers - this particular viewer would like to see them go. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 02:25 pm     lumbele, i am a fan of all the groups, with the exception of ian's. some i like better than others, but the very next week, they might slide down several notches. i used to really dislike the twins and thought they were bimbos... i thought (okay, only for one teeny tiny part of one episode!) the lawyer gals might be okay... i keep waiting for guns 'n hoses to do something totally on their own, rather than trying to follow the leaders...i love gerard and ken's goofiness, but disliked when they badmouthed the twins way back... i loved a and a's video, but was disappointed when they badmouthed the twins...i thought i liked teri, but that was just a momentary lapse of sanity, or too much candy...and once,i even, God help me, thought ian looked a tad like harrison ford!! i probably won't have a favorite team until they are down to 5. then i have to be careful about who i choose, because it seems whoever i like goes...and i pick the next duo, and they go...and so and so on, and scooby dooby do. why do you think i have my own swivel chair in the suck room?! |
Lumbele | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 02:33 pm     So, Tabby, that was your chair I banged my shin on over there while tiptoeing, eh? |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 02:40 pm     did it have merlot and melted cadbury eggs on it?! yep, that was it! |
Bastable | Friday, November 01, 2002 - 08:07 pm     So A&A were portrayed as much nicer in Wednesday's episode. Did anyone who previously didn't enjoy this team find themselves thawing a bit toward them? |
Lumbele | Friday, November 01, 2002 - 08:57 pm     Bastable, nope! |
Quietstorm4 | Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 08:38 am     I don't think they were portrayed nicer. They started out in last place, and then put the wrong kind of gas in their car keeping them in last place. If they get the FF next week and get back into one of the top spots, they will be the same obnoxious people they were in the beginning...So to answer your question Bastable, I'm not thawing to them one bit. |
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