Archive through April 20, 2002
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Archive through April 20, 2002
Fruitbat | Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:41 pm     I really don't know. As I said earlier I thought a "good guy" would take it because of how they portrayed Guido and the Lawyers last time. But Hippt and Car make a good point. Both Will and Richard were not the sweethearts of the pack. |
Webkitty | Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:55 pm     The thing about Will is that he was on BB, where editing takes place but not to the extent of Survivor or TAR. The reason I say this is because: #1. The winner of BB is not known by the production team in advance. #2. The HG in the BB house are on live feed 24/7 so its harder to edit, even though there IS editing done for the show. I think putting Will into the mix of Survior and TAR is apples and oranges. On to Richard Hatch. This was the first Survivor, nothing like it had ever been done. There was general outrage when he won because *most* felt he should not have won because he was not a "nice" person. In hindsite, I think alot of people have come around to the concept that he did deserve to win, but admit it, MOST people AT THE TIME, were "upset" So, I think MB did take note of this and made a decision to edit the winner of S2 to not look like a "bad" person no matter how much they had to cut up that tape to do it. Who knows what Tina is really like? She backstabbed Mad Dog big time, IMO Anyway, my point is, what is my point? Oh, I don't think Richard and Will can be tossed into the mix here. Look at the first TAR. The Guidos were edited to be on everyone's sh!t list so that when they were left all alone in the cold darkness of Alaska while the "nice" team won, we were all cheering and felt a satisfactory glow. Great editing, brilliant. This show is upbeat, I can't see them messing with a winning formula. The team that will make the MOST people feel all warm and fuzzy about winning will win, no matter how they have to edit to make that happen. Example: Lets say the Boston guys win it. But they were real jerks throughout the race. Did things and said things that would make Tara and Will look like sweetpeas. But they win. What to do.....People out in TV land won't be happy and might not tune in for TAR3, no!!! So the editors go to work. They leave out all the really bad stuff and put in any little good thing they can glean. Viola! People in TV are happy, they say, Oh, they were nice, I'm glad they won, can't wait til next time! No producer is going to keep presenting a show that has a winner that *most* people are going to feel dissatisfied with. That would be the kiss of death. Does anyone understand what I'm trying to say? |
Julieboo | Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 01:12 pm     I understand your point, WK. I just wish it weren't likely true. But I think it just might be true. Okay-here's a confession. I actually liked the Guidos. <<JB ducks and runs!>> |
Car54 | Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 01:17 pm     I am not liking TAR2 nearly as much as I did the first. I loved almost every team on TAR, and even came to love the Guidos in the end. The show was about the race, and travel... this season so far, there is far more backbiting and personalities. I liked the fairness of the original. Not liking this one nearly as much. |
Webkitty | Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 01:34 pm     LOL Car, I feel just the oppsite. I'm liking these teams more than the first one. Julie, I liked the Guidos in the beginning, but by the end, eh. Editing, I'm telling ya. Manipulation of the masses. That's why I like BB. We see all, hear all. Opinions of the HG are formed without the filter of editing, no matter what the evicted HG says. |
Julieboo | Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 01:44 pm     I think I'm with WK here. I find TAR2 more exciting. Don't exactly know why though. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 02:05 pm     I liked the Guidos and Keith |
Hippyt | Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 02:14 pm     I think they can edit in TAR just as much as they do in Survivor. They have endless tapes of these people. They know who wins before they go to the editing room. If they want to pick out all the bad moments a person has when stressed,they could do that. And,they could leave out the nice moments someone else has. Remember how they tried to redeem the Guidos a few times last season? Didn't work out for them,still they tried to show a couple of nice things they did. If they had left out Emily yelling at the natives,we would have all thought she was an angel straight from heaven!!!! I agree about BB, easier to form your opinion about someone.Plus all they do is lay around and talk all day! No pesky race to deal with! |
Hippyt | Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 02:24 pm     Then again,if you left all the bad stuff Will is doing this race,He wouldn't be on the show! |
Hippyt | Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 08:58 pm     OKay,where is everyone? Next Week on THE AMAZING RACE: It's a battle between woman and man when Tara takes on Chris in the Roadblock challenge involving operating enormous container-port cranes. One wrong move could bring a massive steel container--and any hope of winning--crashing to the ground. A re-energized Danny & Oswald, eager to avoid the "drama" of the other Teams, choose a course that takes them far away. Will it help them or lead to disaster? Gary blows up at Dave, while Mary brings a smile back to her exhausted sister Peach's face. |
Hippyt | Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 09:01 pm     I watched the "supposed" blow up between Gary and Dave,it looked to me like a lot of clowning around.Kinda the whole pants argument thing from the last preview. I swear Gary was doing the Karate Kid in the preview!!! |
Awareinva | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 10:58 am     I chose Blake and Paige to go, nobody to get the FF, someone throws up not on Phil's shoes, the blow up is playing, ummm can't remember the other questions. I picked Blake and Paige because a "semispoiler" on the Survivor Sucks site was that in TAR if a team is mentioned by name in the preview info. they stay. The only ones not mentioned this week is Blake and Paige. Of course this will be the week it fails since I am voting that way. I just can't seem to do very well on my own...sigh! But I'm having fun and that's all that matters.  |
Julieboo | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 01:07 pm     ...and also in the preview, it did not look good for Blake & Paige. Looked as if they were gonna lose big time with the crane thing... So, even tho I hope-hope-hope they stay, I think there is an excellent chance that they go. (I still had to vote for Terror & Weasel tho) |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 10:24 pm     Gary/David (9) (5)(3)(2)(5)(2)(1) = 27 / ff *Chris/Alex (6) (2)(7)(7)(1)(6)(2) = 31 Tara/Wil (1) (3) (2)(3)(3)(5)(3):= 20 *Oswald/Danny (8) (7) (1)(1)(6)(4)(4) = 31/ ff Paige/Blake (4)(9)(5)(4)(4)(3)(5) = 34 standings.. "totals" and who can't take another ff |
Wilsonatmd | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 08:53 am     I hate to say it, but Tara and Wil have been the most consistant, not being below 3rd any time execpt for the nonelimination leg....PLUS they have the FF in their back pocket, just in case. The key I think is who will take the next FF.....and more importantly, WHEN. They probably know by now next leg won't be elimination, so it would be pointless to take the FF then, unless you think you can build up a substansial lead. The second part of next weeks' 2 hours will be the key....who gets the FF, and more importantly, who doesn't. Blake and Paige are really lucky that M+P missed the FF, otherwise they would have been gone most likely (I think G+D had enough of a cushion to stay in the game even if they had missed the FF). the previews (print and TV) suggest that there might be a penalty assessed for teams for not following directions...again, that might be key. Remember what happened to the mother/daughter team last season? That could happen here too... |
Julieboo | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 09:15 am     Refresh my aging memory...who didn't follow directions? |
Julieboo | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 09:17 am     Another question, where did B&P lose the time? I know B took a long time in doing the crane thing, buit it also seemed like it took them a very long time to get to the crane thing. How did that happen??? |
Wilsonatmd | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 09:54 am     Last season, the mother/daughter team raced Team Guido for the FF and lost. A later task was to either find a specific private car or take a bus to the next location. Mother/Daughter, thinking they were out, gave up and took a taxi, not following the directions. The Guidos took their time on the FF, and actually got to the pitstop behind the mother/daughter team and were in last place, but the mother/daughter team were penalized 24 hours for the major violation, thus eliminating them. (however, it's was never made clear that if they had followed directions, they would have still been eliminated, as the bus ride was 14 hours, so it might have been a moot point). According to some of the previews for next week, two teams don't follow instructions, so that's why I say that there might be a penalty asssessed (such as the matching 42 minute penalties the nerds and the Boston team got for speeding). It might be minor, it might be major, it might not make a difference... |
Julieboo | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 10:59 am     okay, i thought you meant that last night someone didn't follow directions (thought I missed something) |
Awareinva | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:11 am     Well, I killed that preview spoiler thing by voting Blake and Paige. But they really suck at following map directions. They got really lost in Bancok and had to burn three of those car thingies because they didn't bother to check they were at the right temple. They lost a ton of time on the tea thing too. I may have to go with them again next time....although not following directions seems like a team nerd thing to do too!! |
Julieboo | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:29 am     I think TAR may be getting less obvious (more like Survivor) with their previews. Thus, i think both W&T and B&P are safe this week. (The previews showed both of those teams getting way lost) |
Seamonkey | Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:44 am     Blake and Paige definitely lost time looking for the tea, and then Blake was definitely the most impatient "crane operator" of all of them, so that lost them more time. And yes.. those "total scores" do show that Tara and Wil definitely are the most consistently toward the top, which is a good thing, but no guarantee.. all it takes is one disaster and they could easily be out, but their track record is best and they do still have the ff potential. I have to admit that Tara did a great job with the crane, while Wil was unconsciously standing there with the clue.. hadn't even ripped it open until she was back on earth.. not sharp at all. |
Tntitanfan | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 12:48 pm     Sea - I THINK they both have to be present to open an envelope and read the clue - |
Seamonkey | Friday, April 19, 2002 - 08:13 pm     hmm I thought Alex (Chris?)(the one on the ground did zip his open, but.. I have no tape. But it does seem like they should both be there.. just wondered since they made a big deal of waving the flag out the window and having the other team member get the envelope right away. |
Seamonkey | Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 01:25 pm     from cbs Next Week on THE AMAZING RACE: It's a special 2-HOUR EPISODE of THE AMAZING RACE. When four of the five Teams book themselves on the same international flight, Oswald & Danny take a different course. Will their plan put them in the lead, or throw them far behind? Wil accuses Tara of having made a terrible error by talking strategy with another Team, and decides to backtrack to save his Team. Wil has to face one of his greatest fears above Sydney Harbor. Will it bring him closer to Tara, or closer to elimination? After Blake & Paige make several mistakes, Paige, in one decisive move, may just save the Team. Blake's respect for her is enormous, but will her effort be too little too late? |
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