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Julieboo

Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 01:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who were the 4 teams that got the second plane?

Crazydog

Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe they were the Grannies, Deirdre and Hillary, Oswald and Danny, and Gary and Dave.

Oswald and Danny managed to get on the third boat, the rest were relegated to the last one.

Julieboo

Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you crazyd!

Julieboo

Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What did Wil say at the very beginning? (In subtitles) when he was drunk?

I like him less and less. I did not like how he told Tara to shut up. I also did not like how Tara (and maybe Wil too) kept saying how well they were getting along. Methinks thou doth protest too much!!!!

Hippyt

Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 08:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Will is an Ass!! Nothing wrong with having a drink,but please!!! Getting drunk and cussing in front of two preachers!Not to mention,you're in a tough race,you should have some self control!I think it's hilarious Tara is sneaking off with Chris(I think).
I have to watch the tape I made when hubby gets home,I'll pay attention and let you know Julie.

Firebird05

Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He said "I want to have fun with the hot south african ladies, man. Come on."

I do not like Wil at all. It is like Frank and Margarita. I couldn't stand Frank, but wanted her to go far, just because she had the added burden of being with him.

Muse

Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dislike Wil, too. He's constantly whining (about the other teams, about how much things cost, etc). And despite his glowing praise for her in the confessionals, he doesn't treat his wife very well. Is the "that's why I pay you the big bucks" comment supposed to be funny, btw? Because I'd just find it annoying, personally. Same goes for how he slaps her about the head occasionally...he doesn't do it hard, and it seems more of a teasing sort of thing, but oy - that would bug me.

Also - really dislike the way Wil dresses. Especially the hat. lol - I can understand why he might want to wear a hat a lot (since they probably don't get that many opportunities to shower), but you'd think he could find something more attractive. :)

But that being said...I don't like Tara, either. She whines and screeches a lot, and I find her romance with Chris (or is it Alex?) kind of distasteful. If their marriage is like that, and they've been separated so long...get divorced already!

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Will was out of line but it was equally wrong for the Revs to scold him. Requiring another to behave as you *think* they should is off the mark as well. Just ignore or leave. Will is not Russel's business.

Marysafan

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I so agree with Fruitbat. (What else is new...lol!)

Kellee

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 05:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I personally dont think it was wrong of the Revs to say something. I mean if you are in teh general dinning area...which is where this appeared to be it should be an atmosphere that is comfortable for the majority and from what they showed others including Mary and Peaches were feeling offended by the conversation. I think it is my understanding that all the Rev did was ask them to tone it down some. I dont like hearing cuss words every ten seconds and probably would have asked the same thing.

Webkitty

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 05:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What Muse and Fruitbat said.....

Also, did anyone else hear Will refering to Tara as DUDE??? when they were at the sand dune?
What was that all about?

I was sorry to see the twins go, but I should have seen it coming, they didn't have the travel saavy.

Wink

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well as much as the Revs are not big faves of mine I dislike nasty drunks even more and from the sounds of it Will was totally over the top using lots of foul language and disparaging remarks and I don't think it was out of line for the Revs to speak up.

Crazydog

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was annoyed with Cyndi and Russell. Mary and Peach talked about the swearing only in the sense that it offended Cyndi and Russell. I didn't like the fact that they told everyone to tone it down. On the Early Show the twins said that Cyndi asked and everyone ignored her, and then Russell said something about how if they continued they were disrespecting his wife and they were disrespecting him. They shouldn't be dictating to others how they should behave.

When you're in an environment like this and you don't agree with other's behavior, I think you just have to suck it up and deal with it. It's like living in a dorm or an apartment complex... either you can complain about noise and look like an a$$ or you can just say nothing and look gracious.

Fruitbat

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am surprized that clergy, who council people, do not get the fundamental truth that no one can make you feel anything without your participation. Just rise above the situation and understand that Wills swearing was all about him and no one else. Ignore it. Remove your focus.

To give anyone the power to offend you does nothing but put you smack dab in the middle of what you are aiming to avoid.

Will was being Will and it had nothing to do with anyone else. You don't have to like it, just remove your focus.

F*ck is just a word. It is arrogant to demand that someone should act or be any other way than they are. It is just none of his business. Who does he think he is?


.<climbing off soap box now>.

Squaredsc

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i disagree. i think it was disrespectful for them to use that type of language around church folk. i also liken that to using foul language around your parents. i am 32 years old and i certainly don't use that type of language around my mother or grandparents/aunts/uncles. and i certainly wouldn't use it around church people. they know that they are church people and that they wouldn't want to hear that kind of talk. so yes i think that cyndi and russell were well within their rights to speak up especially since they all had to be in the same room.

anyhoo, i was sorry to see the twins go, they were my favorite.

Buttercup

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, bat! I am so glad you are home from your worldtour--love reading your posts again! Yes, I know you've been back for a while...

I'd let you stand on a soap box any time!

By the way, I am sorry to see the twins gone as well

Buttercup

Spygirl

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I know I would speak up if someone was violating my personal boundaries. That is my right to speak up. If they don't change, then I have the right to leave. That goes for language (including gossip, etc) and behavior. You do not have to be touching to violate another.

Grooch

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the wife had a right to ask. But it seems like what the Rev got upset about is that Will ignored her. He thought that was disrespectful.

Well, you have to earn respect. The rev gets on my nerves because he is so arrogant and uses religion to say that he is better than everyone else.

"Oh, God is going to let us win because we are religious." Yeah, I'm sure God is real worried about who wins a game show contest with all the horrors that are going around in the world today.

And how does being revs make them more deserving anyway? How do they know that some of the other contestants do more for mankind than they do? I find the husband so arrogant, it annoys the heck out of me. And I think he is a bully. I think the wife is nice but brainwashed.

I bet Will did it on purpose to annoy that team and was using being drunk as an excuse to get away with it.

They have to spend long stretches of time together on airplanes, etc. He is probably sick and tired of their attitude and just wanted to piss them off.

I'm sure if he did have respect for them, he would have shut up when asked. I bet he wouldn't have been cursing around the oldest couple from last season. They were so sweet.

I still think Will is an idiot though.

And the Rev team should have thought about this before going on the show. Yes, it would be nice if nobody cursed, but they shouldn't expect that everyone has to change their behavior to suit them.

So I guess I agree with Bat and Spygirl and Crazydog.

I'm not antireligious but some people use religion as an excuse to say they are better than everyone else and it really gets on my nerves.

Guinevere

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't like Will, but I dislike the God Squad even more. I don't really know who was right, because I don't know how bad Will was really behaving; we only saw a little snippet, in which he seemed to me to be being obnoxious, but not offensive.

In general, I don't really like people who tell other people how to behave. If you're an adult and it's your child, that's one thing. In most other circumstances, MYOB.

I also have a problem with people who constantly feel that they're being "disrespected". As Grooch says, respect needs to be earned and even then sometimes it doesn't happen. To demand respect from others usually strikes me as controlling.

Seamonkey

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well.. I don't like Wil or the Revs but from what the twins said this morning, they were all stuck in ONE room to sleep and these guys were yelling and swearing and drinking.. if that was the main problem, I might side with the Revs.

Also, I think it might have been more about the statements about wanting hot south african women (and surely more than that) that might have been deemed disrespectful.. I didn't hear from what the twins said that the Revs used the religion card.

I would definitely have packed some of those foam earplug things for a trip like this one.. just to get sleep.

Seamonkey

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh.. I just thought of a perfect fate for the Revs.. to be locked up with Belou from Road Rules, Krista, Eddie and Justin from BB
and the entire Osbourne family :)

Lobster

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LMAO, Sea!

Moondance

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perfect Sea!

Sadiesmom

Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 05:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, I don't like foul and offensive language in my presence. Everything has a place. If they want to do it while they are going to do a task, fine. I just do not believe I have to listen to cr*p. Life is to short for me to let people step on my personal space. If you want to drink and act like that and disgrace our country in public, go do it, just not in my face. I may want to report you to John Ashcroft after we get home (just a joke, I am far to nice for that), but just stay away from. I would certainly not tolerate that from my partner.

Hippyt

Friday, March 29, 2002 - 11:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OKay,reading all these posts,I have to chime in again.Will is an idiot.Getting drunk when you're racing for money,and you have to leave on another leg in 12 hours is stupid.Being shown drunk on TV is stupid!(Unless you're on Big Brother,we all understand that boredom)
I don't really think Will cared what was asked of him by Russel or Cyndi,and they could have gotten up and left the room. I do think they had the right to ask him to tone it down though.

Seamonkey

Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 06:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not sure they COULD leave the room.. Shola and Doyin said they were all stuck staying in the same room and that it was REALLY smelly, loud, etc.

Iluvchoc

Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 11:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Could someone please tell me what the fast forward was? The show was interrupted by my local news (Texas) to tell me the president just landed at the airport and went on for a good 10 minutes. I live near his home in Texas and constantly hear the jets fly over while protecting the airspace over his home. Thanks.

Seamonkey

Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The fast forward was to "find the old railway station".. which turns out to be a hotel.. Danny and Oswald went into the hotel to ask and could see through to the pool, where the fast forward was floating in the middle.. one of them took off pants and shirt and dove in.. then they went inside to change some money "just in case" and drove direct to the pitstop.

Later Peach and Mary arrived at same hotel.. one of them waded in and, to her dismay, found that the FF had been taken.