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Julieboo

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Demeter. I bet he was focused on what HE was doing and not on how SHE was faring. It's a GAME, with a huge prize. It is not a game about chivalry. I'm not saying he should be ruthless, I'm just saying we should not rip on him for not being a gentleman.

Wink

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
>>I'm just saying we should not rip on him for not being a gentleman<<

Why not? We rip on every other team on the show we're not fond of. Did they have an immunity challenge I missed?

Julieboo

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 09:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Guess ya kinda got me there, Wink. The difference is that I do like B&P. I just don't see that they've played dirty. Otherwise I love to rip on certain people!!! (let's see, Wil, Tara, Rob, Sean, etc...)

Wink

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Julie I don't think I've ever said they played dirty, in fact I know I haven't. Their personalities just don't do a thing for me and I'll be happy to rip em every chance I get.

Firebird05

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
When Blake came out of the cave he told Mary that Peach was right behind him. I think he thought she was following him. Then Dave came out but didn't say anything about seeing her.

I guess she took a wrong turn somewhere but no one else had a proplem getting out. I just wonder where she was that Dave didn't see her on his way out.

Mindyrama

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He helped lead to her to the clue...that was nice of him. He could have ditched her. I really doubt the Guidos would have helped her..they'da probably made a wall of roaches to block her path. Ya'll must be remembering a different TAR then I do, cause even Drew and Kevin had moments like this. Remember at the Taj Mahal when they were trying to throw Momily off their trail so they wouldn't find the clue?? And these teams were buddies! But there comes a point when you have to choose between being nice and being competitive. Like someone said earlier..he didn't try to block her path or trick her into going the wrong way, he grabbed the clue and ran. He probably didn't think about her. Why should he. I think you folks are grasping at straws on this one.

Julieboo

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wink, you never said that, I was referring to Jane Clayson's quote (in another thread. sometimes i forget which one i'm in!!!) But many people think they play dirty and I don't think they do. That's all.

And why doesn't anyone rip Dave for not helping her? I just don't get it. (and I'm not saying Dave had any responsibility either...)

Julieboo

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Mindy, I think a lot of people are really grasping!!!! (and there aren't any straws left!!!)

Grooch

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope. Not grasping at any straws over here. I haven't said they played dirty and I said in a post above that the jury is still out on whether I like them or not.

I don't have any problem with them not waking up the grannies, I missed the path thing, so I can't comment on it. But I do think it would have been decent of him to help her out of the cave. He would have gone up in my book.

As to David not helping, I'm not sure, but I think he entered the cave after they had gotten the clues. So he may not have seen her at all. I was pretty shocked to see him run out of the cave before her.

Webkitty

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, last night I felt that Blake should have helped Peach out of the cave. I slept on it and viewed the tape again this morning and after watching the Revs on The Early Show I came to:

Conclusion: B&P have not cheated or broken any rules at all. One can say that they didn't LIKE when B&P cut in front of Mary & Peach or any other incident, but they haven't broken any rules.

I think I said this one time before, this race is closely monitored by the producers, every thing is on tape.
On last nights show they showed how the Boston team and the Nerds were penilized 40 mins for driving just a few miles over the speed limit of what they were told they could drive.
There is no way that B&P have infractured any rules, at all. That's #1.

#2. The Revs said in their interview this morning that B&P weren't all that bad and that Will & Tara had done alot of the instigating, and after seeing the behavior of espeically Will on last night's show, I believe them.

#3. The batcave. At first I ageed with some that Blake should have "helped" Peach out of the cave.
I thought, oh, the poor thing was in there all alone and frightened and he should have helped.
But then I realized that she was NOT in there alone, the camera man was in there with her. Blake grabbed the card and Peach was RIGHT behind him. He took off (as he should) and Peach took a wrong turn, I really don't think he realized that.

My final conclusion is that Will & Tara are far more mean spirited that Blake & Page. Not only is Will's hat irratating beyond belief, I think if HE had been in the batcave with Peach, he would not only have left her in the dust, he would have GLOATED about it.

Will & Tara - #1 most smarmy team, by far.

Jaded

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, The only team I can take are Gary and Dave.
The rest have zero appeal! Where did they get this people?

Wink

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with all who say Blake and Paige have broken no rules. If they had they would have been penalized. I do take issue with the fact that my "personal" reaction to his actions in the bat cave is considered grasping at straws. The title of this thread is "Why does everyone dislike Blake and Paige?" I was just giving my reason.

Fanny

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Peach could have taken it upon herself to follow Blake out of the cave. Frankly, I find her poor little ole me routine kind of gaggy.

Grooch

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, I agree with you that Will and Tara are the smarmiest.

Even though Peach was not technically "alone" in the cave, she's not getting any help from them, and she is stuck in that horrible, stinking, bacteria and coackroached infested cave. (Think fear factor here.)

Webkitty, if you still have the episode on tape, can you check something out?

When they were in the cave, was the film shaky (like the cameramen were running) or not. If the caves were so dangerous for health reasons, I wonder if they set the cameras up in a few places, and had no one else in there. I wonder how they filmed that. And the poor camermen that had to set it up. I'd like to hear those stories.

Julieboo

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point Fanny. Po' li'l Peach should have taken it upon herself to follow Blake if she wanted to. (Every man for himself!) (or woman!)

And I don't even think Peach blamed Blake!

Seamonkey

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cyndi mentioned that when she went in the batcave, of course it was later and getting dark and she mentioned them turning on the production lights which caused a great hullabaloo amongst the bats (and Cyndi).. so I think there were plenty of production people around.

I think Blake and everyone who went in was assaulted by the horrible smell, the knowledge that things were toxic, the billions of cockroaches AND the bats.. not to mention just being underground.. I think each of them, including Blake, was probably concentrating heavily on getting OUT of there.

I think Blake can be shady at times.. I think his supposed attempt to talk things out with Wil were more to get Wil more agitated (Paige tried to prevent him from approaching Wil and Tara).

So.. Blake and Paige aren't my least favorite but are by far not my most favorite either. I think Paige is cute/attractive.

Webkitty

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 11:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK Grooch, I'll check it out for you and get back here later. (I'm taping the Osbournes right at this minute)

Wink, I'm sorry I changed my mind! ~don't be mad at me!~ Your right, everyone is entitled to how they feel and shouldn't have to defend it.

Wink

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 11:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Webkitty not to worry. I don't get mad. I get even.

Moondance

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am kind of with G & Wink on this one... anyone from last year except the Guidos would have helped Peach...I am not saying 'he should have'... just that it would have been nice:)

Webkitty

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, I watched the batcave sequence (a few times)

The camera shot was shakey while Blake and Peach were running through the batcave toward the envelope box. As if a camera person was running behind them.

Blake got to the box and took his envelope out, Peach was right on his heels. Blake took a few steps and stopped to open his envelope and read it.
He then took off with Peach right behind him.

Then it showed the OTHER guy (John?) PASSING Peach on his way to the box.

Then it showed Blake running out of the batcave shouting that it was disgusting in there. He then said: John? and PEACH ARE RIGHT BEHIND ME, LETS GO!!!

I am conviced that he really did think they were both on his heels and didn't realize Peach was in any trouble.

The end.

Wink

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Webkitty I hope Blake finds out how well you've stood up for him. I agree. The end.


I do reserve the right to revisit my negative opinion in future episodes123

Mindyrama

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
*applaud* Thanks Webkitty!!! I have it on tape too and plan to re-watch it. I do remember him saying that Peach and someone was right behind him (was it Dave?). When Blake does something truly offense in the future, have no fears, I will be the first to call him on it!

Webkitty

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 01:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ditto that Mindy!

Was it Dave? I don't like to keep refering to them as "Team Nerd" but I can't remember their names. ~old age get thee back!~

Julieboo

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah, which is Dave, which is Gary?
Which is Alex and which is Chris?
Is Danny the thinner one?
And Mary has the shorter hair?

Webkitty

Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 02:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, Alex and Chris are the Boston team.

Mary and Peach are sisters, and yes, Mary has the shorter, darker hair.

DAnny and Oswald are best friends orginally from Cuba, Danny is the thinner, taller one.

Ok, so its Dave and Gary, friends, formally know as the "nerds" Which one is the "Woody Allen" one? He's hysterical!