Success and Team Composition

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Bcarter3

Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 01:31 pm Click here to edit this post
We started out with 3 Boy-Boy teams, 3 Girl-Girl teams, and 5 Boy-Girl teams.

At this point, four of the five Boy-Girl teams and two of the three Girl-Girl teams are gone. All the Boy-Boy teams are still in the game.

Looks like the odds (3 out of 5) favor a Boy_Boy team to win, with the other combinations having only a 1 in 5 chance.

Crazydog

Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 01:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Gender has nothing to do with my desired outcome. I'd prefer that the lawyers win, but any of the others are preferable to the Guido team. In my book, that makes the chances of a happy ending 4 out of 5!

Car54

Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 02:18 pm Click here to edit this post
You said it Crazydog..(we are both Clarence, remember) I like all the remaining teams and would be happy to see any but the Guidos win.

I actually want the Guidos in the final 2 tho, so they realllly lose bad.

Question- does anyone remember the early recruiting for the show...seems like they asked for all kinds of teams, now on the website it just says If you are a couple...I thought I remembered it different in the beginning of the show.

Crazydog

Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 03:52 pm Click here to edit this post
Car (and fellow Clarence), yes, in the beginning it said something like "if you think you have what it takes". Then it moved to "if you are a couple (dating, married, separate, divorced)...." or something like that, leading some to speculate they have too many "friends/buddies" applications and want more couple couples. Now it's "if you are a couple". Don't know what any of this means. "Couple" can mean anything - to me a couple is a team of two. I hope it doesn't mean couple couples only - I was hoping to apply for this with my twin brother.

Realtvfan

Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 04:07 pm Click here to edit this post
If I remember correctly, the initial advertising for the race mentioned "teams of two" many times, and did not use the words couples.

They probably received applications from thousands of teams of two and then emphasized the couples by picking 5 of them for this show.

They are probably emphasizing couples in AR II advertising now especially since the couples and girl-girl teams did not do as well as the boy-boy teams in AR I.

Based on the Survivor type editing we are seeing for all 5 teams to date, we can be very suspicious that we will end up with the 3 boy-boy teams as the final 3.

The emphasis on the word couple in the advertising for AR II may also be a hint that the final 3 teams in AR I turn out to be all guys and CBS knows for the future that all guys may not be the best ratings approach.

If we see three boy-boy teams in AR II, the suspense may be lacking. AR II may be all couples to create the sense of a closer AR II race.

Based on last night's new information, the Survivor type "off handed comments included which are not immediately necessary to the story line", lead me to conclude that the lawyers are potentially the big final winners.

Sunshinemiss

Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 04:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Interesting point of view.

I think a lot of it may have to do with the fact that if you are a "couple" (in the romantic sense) you carry a lot of additional emotional baggage that can get in the way of clear-headed decision making. Not always, but it is definitely a factor. Much more so than "buddies".

From CBS's point of view, it makes for more conflict which is usually good TV. Hence the couples requirement for AR2.

On the other hand, family units have their fair share of emotional baggage too, so who knows.

I love this show, I am sorry to hear it is not doing well. Hopefully CBS will chalk it up to the tragedy that seems to be affecting almost all of the new shows and give it another chance.

Voyeur

Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 11:46 pm Click here to edit this post
I suspect a lot of star struck types (you know, wanting their 15 minutes of fame and not caring what reality show they get it on) easily formed partnerships and signed up. And those are the types I really wouldn't want to see on this show. So they probably have a lot of "friendship" pairs applying, and want to get more couple pairs in.

Crazydog

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 09:17 am Click here to edit this post
I thought I read on some thread that someone was complaining that the show was sexist since there is only one team of two women left and only 3 women left in the whole game. I think the point was that it was a sad commentary if being a woman meant you were less able to travel around. I think these are inaccurate statements.

First, consider the other two women teams. You have the teachers, who were rude and obnoxious and deserved what happened to them. You have the mothers, who simply caught a bad break - going to the wrong pendulum, could have happened to anyone. The women on each of the couple teams - each instance was different. With Karyn and Lenny, I know a lot of people didn't like her, but she carried that team. David and Margaretta - can't fault her, she gave it her best. Amie and Paul - Amie was a hindrance with her sobfests and whining. Matt and Anna - who?

The women left have played very well, especially Margarita. Just as there have been strong women and weak women, there are strong men and weak men. Lenny and Paul were sorely lacking. To try to portray the Amazing Race as sexist is highly inaccurate. It's too bad that people are suggesting that teams of two men have an unfair advantage. I admit that I cringed at the Nancy/Emily ticket fiasco, but they did have a camera crew with them. Hopefully Nancy and Emily will be given a "production difficulties" time bonus to jump ahead of the Guidos and find the FF.

Car54

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 09:35 am Click here to edit this post
I have been really impressed with the way Margarita plays... almost everywhere she has been, it appears she has done some research ...she seems to know the basics about the culture, in some cases the geography... she has made several good moves with plane routes that no one else thought of...she seems to have put some effort into this game.

Realfan

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 12:12 pm Click here to edit this post
Margarita is definitely on her game. Last night didn't she say something about Jaipur being six hours away? Who would know that off the top of their head?

If I were these teams, I know I'd be using my 12 hours off to find and buy travel guidebooks, and spending my relaxation time reading them. This may be what she's (very smartly) doing! Good for her! (Of course, I'm a book maniac anyway, and not everyone is.)

I certainly don't think the women are less adept at this game--except where the culture discriminates against them. It'd be nice to avoid that, or compensate in some way, but I don't think that's going to happen since there was a six-hour lag between trains last night anyway, and E/N didn't lose any time after all, despite the reluctance of the clerk to sell them tickets. It sure added to their stress level, though!

Crazydog

Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 12:23 pm Click here to edit this post
...and hopefully Nancy and Emily will channel that stress and irritation into energy and determination to beat the Guidos. I think the fight is back in them.