Archive through October 18, 2001
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Archive through October 18, 2001
Whoami | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 09:48 pm   I need to stop eating dinner before I watch this show. Team Guido just makes me want to hurl. I can't believe they can be such sleezes, and then expect us all to believe they didn't deliberatly block the gate, when it is right there on tape! They must think they are so superior, that they can put one over on the dumb audience. And what's with them obsessing about the other teams being focused on them? HELLOOO! YOU are focused on the other teams! These edited just have to get eliminated soon. PLEASE! If they win, I WILL hurl. 007 |
Car54 | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 10:17 pm   Whoami... just think about when they do get eliminated and they go on Rosie... she is going to give that team a free trip to Afghanistan!!! She will make mincemeat out of them... Don't forget to vote against them on the CBS site... I want them at 0% by next week... |
Egbok | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 10:33 pm   Can Team Guido say "how low can you go"?? Shame on Bert & Ernie. |
Voyeur | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 10:33 pm   Yes, Team Guido are edited, but I still think that making sweeping judgments about their life and relationship outside the show is going too far. Why can't people be content to just let them be the bad guys in the context of the show without having to get into grandiose psychoanalysis in detail? 007 |
Tksoard | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 10:40 pm   I went to cbs.com to vote, and when I clicked vote, it didn't do anything. When I scrolled down, it said "This is insignifigant!!!!". What does that mean? Also, when you click on the faces and it takes you to the poll, it was at 1 to start. When I went to vote for the Frats, it was at 8. Does that mean anything?  |
C1mag | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 02:09 am   Talk about sociopathic reverse psychology... First they stare daggers into the others as they acquire their flight tickets. Then just to be vicious they try to hold them up at the airport. Later they would brag that the others are always watching them. Yet didn't they watch every move the others made at the airport? Even positioning themselves to hear conversations? I've yet to see any of the others do that. Talk about social edited! Can you imagine the hissy fit these two would throw if the others tried sabotaging them along the way? Now I'd be up for some of that. |
Car54 | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 03:53 am   tk, i just voted again,,, they are down about 3% overnite.... (and this is just the beginning of my campaign...Paybacks baby) I went to the site, clicked polls, clicked on their faces (really hard) then voted them 1- it seems to let you vote about 5 or 6 times then it locks you out, then i went back a few minutes later and gave everyone else some 10's so the Guidos will be down at the bottom of the poll by themselves. Remember my motto: vote early and often!!!! |
Espen | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 05:23 am   I just have to say that I feel it is unfair to associate the good names of Bert & Ernie with these "people"..As if it wasn't bad enough that Bert had to be associated with Bin Laden last week.. (on the poster held up by a protester in Bangladesh).. What have they done to deserve this? (smirk) |
Tksoard | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 06:39 am   Car54, will you reread my post and can you answer my ?'s. I don't know if my vote is counting. Do you get that "insignifigant" message?  |
Crazydog | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 08:21 am   Tksoard, I just voted (including ten 1's for Guidos) and I didn't get any of your messages or didn't get locked out. They are down to 21%. I am not sure what happened to David and Margaretta. They were at around 90% but for some reason are now at 54% or thereabouts. I wonder if this is an error or if somebody really didn't like them and spent hours voting in bad numbers. Voyeur, I respect your opinion, but are you related to the Guidos?!?!?! You are the only one here who is consistently defending them. I disagree that they have been edited to look poorly. Regardless of whether or not one of them actually pushed Nancy (as someone else said, they may very well have turned and hit her accidentally with a backpack and it got misinterpreted by others who may have simply seen her stumbling backwards), the fact is that they deliberately tried to block the gate and make the others miss the plane. They had no tickets for that plane and had no business being at that gate. They must have forgotten they were on camera. It was nice of Karyn to talk to them to get both sides (my opinion of her rose dramatically when she did this - even though she knows no one likes them, she wanted to be fair to the Guidos). I cannot believe that they lied blatantly to her about how they were there first and didn't do anything wrong. As far as the supposed "threats" about breaking legs from Drew, he clearly said this in jest and even play tapped one of them, or something like that. The fact that they chose to interpret this as a threat clearly shows that they haven't spent any time getting to know the other teams and their personalities. Frankly, I didn't believe that Kevin and Drew speak French - I thought in Paris they used some basic broken phrases, but we didn't hear them speaking extensively like the Guidos or Margarita. It was all a joke to Drew. For Guidos to plead for sympathy and protection to their cameraman, who presumably knows what jerks they've been and the lies they told, is ridiculous. Even if the Guidos win (which I really hope doesn't happen), they are losers in life because whatever opinion others had of them before, they must be losing a lot of respect. All of America who watches this show knows how they have behaved. Their family, friends and coworkers must be ashamed. Even for them, imagine walking around on the streets and having everyone hate you. It's hard enough for actors (especially soap opera actors, who viewers connect intrinsically with one character they see all the time) who play evil characters on TV to avoid harrassment - think of what it must be like for real people. The best move for Bert and Ernie would be to leave the country!!! |
Carigsby | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 08:27 am   Does anyone speak French and know what the Guidos were whispering after they said "They other contestants are here"? I found it strange that what was said after Drew and Kevin were standing behind them wasn't subtitled. Everything up to that point was subtitled. What were they saying to that woman????? |
Fflur | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 09:05 am   Crazydog, nicely said.  |
Car54 | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 09:08 am   TK, I voted this am twice, and tried to re-create your problem, but did not get the insignificant message.... Are you going to the Polls page and clicking or are you possibly answering the questionaire about the Guidos on the home page? What should happen is you go to the site, click on Polls, then click on the Guidos, then a little box will appear, click on a number (hopefully 1.. there is no lower number) then you can click on the message to vote again, and either vote the Guidos again, or vote some other teams up... it sounds like maybe you are not getting the little vote box dropping down???? Crazydog, I think Dave and Margaretta are going down because we are voting other players who are still in the game UP... and they are no longer getting votes. I basically like almost all the other teams and am giving them 9's and 10's and the Guidos 1- which will leave the teams who are gone and getting no votes sort of in the middle, probably. Voyeur... I see your point... I am really mad at the Guidos because of their behavior in playing the game... I am really enjoying this race because it values things I respect... working hard, working smart, and respecting others... and the Guidos have done some unpleasant things. I have seen some comments that have gotten personal... and I don't think we can judge what kind of human beings they are... but I think most of us are judging the type of playing we see--sorry if it got personal... you are right. I am a little less het up this morning, and I want to say one good thing about the Guidos (or maybe about the casting and producers): I think this kind of entertainment NEEDS a villain, and clearly the Guidos are cast in that role...if everyone was so nice and sportsmanlike and total team players, we wouldn't be having nearly as much fun as we are... I actually hope they stay on til the end and then lose miserably... that will be fun to watch. Folks, there is another reason to go over and vote at CBS, if you check out next week's TV guide there is an article about how poorly AR and the Mole are doing, and how CBS is hoping Survivor will still be able to do as well as it has in past. Clearly we are all really liking this show, but we are not Nielson families, so if we express our opinion on the site, maybe they will get some idea people care. (But i STILL want to punish the Guidos...lets get them down to 0%- lol) |
Wink | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 09:27 am   I guess if there is a million dollar prize at stake it stands to reason that some sportsmanship will fall by the wayside and some teams, seem more adept at playing to win at all costs. The problem I have with the gruesome twosome is their flagrant denials to the camera that they have done anything to undermine the other players. Play hard, don't play fair, fine. Just don't forget we hear all your asides and covert conversations. The feeble complaints to the audience about feeling threatened were ludicrous and laughable. |
Tksoard | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 09:45 am   I'm doing everything the way you said, but it doesn't say I can vote again. I click on 1, then vote and it just sits there. I scroll down and that's where it says it's insignifigant. Believe me, I am trying like hell to get them to 0%, I just don't know if it's working. Also, where do you see the %? I can't find that either. I agree Car54, this would be a very boring show if we didn't have someone to hate. They are the attention getters. I wonder if they are being paid for being so bad? They have got to lose, or I'm completely through with reality shows. Like Silas says in the commercial, Good guys finish last, but I sure hope not. |
Grooch | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 09:46 am   Wink, they reminded me of Shannon, when she was going on about Hardy threatening her and she was afraid. What a crock! |
Realtvfan | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 09:56 am   I agree with what crazydog said. I just want to emphasis this one point. The only 2 questions Karyn had to ask the Guido's in Rome was: 1) Did you have a ticket for that plane? Y/N 2) Why were you standing there in front of people who did have tickets? Those two questions would have shown Karyn the lying that the Guidos were doing. Even without seeing a tape of the incident. Case Closed. Guido's wrong. The Guidos have definitely voluntarily chosen the low road multiple times in this game. I really like all the remaining teams except the Guidos. I even like the lawyers. They have been very very good compared to the potential images the lawyers could be. I have about 2 dozen hits on the CBS web site to lower the Guido's popularity big time as well. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 10:19 am   I agree Wink. Go ahead, play hard, deceive and fight for the win, that is allowed, no need to lie about it. We would be applauding them if they stood tall and openly admitted their strategy. They could be friendly to all in the process as well. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 10:22 am   . |
Micknrc | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 10:38 am   Fruit? Anyway--I know this topic is already well-hashed, but i have to add my two cents: Not only did they offer baldfaced lies to Karyn and the camera, but when Bill at the end of the show went into the whole breaking legs/pushing and shoving/pp-"this is the escalating violence and now I know how abused women feel..." line of crap at the end,I wanted to abuse him myself. on a related note, I think where some of our TVCH friends get uncomfortable is the feeling that the animosity towards guido on our part has something to do with their gay status. I can't vouch for anyone else, but half my closest friends are gay, I'm a "-hag" from way back, and I was completely prepared to root for guido after episode one because their dog is adorable and they seemed like a team that would create some amusing t.V. with their matching outfits and confidence. It was only after amusing became evil and their loathsome little personalities emerged that I began to pray (every wed. night)that they will lose. Buttheads exist in every group as do good people (nice platitude, huh?). jmho |
Whoami | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 11:51 am   Micknr, your humble opinion is right on! I too was going to root for these guys when they were introduced. Name the team after the dog, and add an element of fun and teamwork by doing the matching outfits thing. That was my original opinion. Now they just make me sick. Their arrogance and "superiority complex" has nothing to do with gayness. It has to do with personality and character. If they had pulled a Will, and laughed openly over their evil doings, some here would probably be applauding them on. I'll give them lying to Karyn about their deeds, that's part of the game. But to openly lie to the camera as though none of us saw what they are doing is just plain stupid. And the "fear of violence" thing is outright pathetic. |
Sallycat | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 12:00 pm   The word that says it all on The Guido Guys is PETTY |
Jaded | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 12:38 pm   Another word for them is SNOB. Boo to them both! |
Voyeur | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 12:46 pm   crazydog, no I'm not related to the Guido's, and I'm not defending them. They're scum, they're the villians on this show. I enjoy yelling at them when I watch, voting them down on the CBS site, and bitching about them here with all my fellow TVCH'ers. But I just won't stand by and watch people self-righteously pronounce diagnoses of psychological disfunction and disorder in their everyday lives and relationship. It isn't necessary for enjoyment of the show, and smacks of vicious dogpiling, not to mention that those doing this have less than an hour of footage of them to make those judgments. Just let them be Boss Hawg and the Sheriff, boo them, cheer for the Dukes, and move on! |
Meme9 | Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 03:44 pm   Now on a lighter side. Car54 I love the thought of Rosie giving them a free trip to Afghanistan. Now the would be a trip to watch. |
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