Archive through October 17, 2001
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Archive through October 17, 2001
Crazydog | Thursday, October 11, 2001 - 08:09 am   I have never despised anyone on a reality show as much as I despise these two - not even Richard (S1), Jerri(S2), Kent (BB2) or Michael (LoveCruise)! I think I have determined that one of them (not sure of his name, but it's the one that I think looks like Jerry Springer) is definitely the nastier of the two. I believe he is the one who is always saying the "fatties". He screamed at the local guy to sit the camel down so he could get off, when there was clearly no other team near them. When they were told they were second, the toupee/strange eyes one seemed genuinely happy, but Springer had the flabbergasted look. However, when team #3 (Nancy/Emily) checked in, instead of getting up to greet them, they BOTH just looked at their watches. By the way, could anyone decipher what they were saying as they clocked in #2? Maybe I was just hearing what I wanted to hear, but did he say something like "yes we're first again"? |
Cinder | Thursday, October 11, 2001 - 08:56 am   I was glad to see them not getting along last night. The one in the back seat was lecturing the one driving about driving too fast and that was their only vehicle. I think one of them did say "we're first" at the checkpoint. I wish they would still play it on Sunday. I need to start recording and rewathching because there is always something that need to be deciphered. I too liked these guys the first and second episode(up until the Pendulum scene). And I too dislike them more than Richard Hatch. |
Tbear | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 03:15 am   Guinevere, RE: Team "Bert&Ernie" or Team "Guido", Joe is the blonde dominating one and Bill is the Brunette who takes Joe's crap but does go along with Bill's poor disposition. They were dubbed Team Guido because they're dog is named Guido. Who names their dog Guido?? Cody, Scruffy, Blackie, etc., They can't even get with the program on naming a dog. Yes, they are the ones that bought all of the tickets, like they were doing everyone a favour. They are total backstabbing edited. I'm all for healthy competition, but they are cruel. Rob is the brunnette that was wearing the hat in the last show out of the lawyers and Brennan is the other one. 007 |
Tbear | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 04:14 am   I definitely heard "fatties"-not nice. It's possible that they may have been mad because Kevin (the shorter one) and Drew, beat them in the race or realized that they tricked them at the rooftop. Perhaps, it's solely because they are 2 mean-spirited people.
 Think about their lives. These guys are obviously two men who are not happy with their lives, they're not even loving with each other. Even if they do win the million dollars, they still won't be truly fulfilled. Money sure helps by taking off financial burdens and gives you some freedom, depending on what you do with it. I am certainly not disputing that, but it can't change you inside and if you aren't happy inside....   Dave & Margaritta (the grandparents) are Richer than those two will ever be. They are compatible partners of 40 years who respect each other and are still affectionate with each other (kissing and hand-holding). They took in the sights when they could, did a great job in a tough race, were always gracious and received a wonderful 7-day Hawaiin trip from Rosie.    |
Voyeur | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 09:34 am   Can we please stop deciding we know everything about someone's character by what we have seen of them for a *very* short time on a TV show? I feel fine rooting for the Guidos to lose, there is no need to call them the scum of the earth. The producers may have chosen them to be the bad guys, and while you can't show something that someone didn't do, you have no idea what they haven't shown of the other couples. The disagreement in the car may have been staged at the request of the producers. The producers may have been pumping them up with how much more traveled and savvy they are than the other couples. Did you hear Dave and Margaretta on The Early Show? They said that all the bickering the other couples were doing was them 40 years ago. |
Mindyrama | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 01:39 pm   Um..all the editing in the world is not going to change the fact that they referred to Drew and Kevin as the fatties the ENTIRE show this past week!! I heard it said several times. That's all I need to know. If Kevin and Drew referred to them as 'the f*gs' there'd be hell to pay and everyone would be calling them prejudice a-holes! |
Voyeur | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 02:10 pm   That's true, but we don't know if Keven and Drew called them fags or not, that's my point. We don't know if the Guidos were treated badly in the beginning such that they withdrew from everybody else and got all prickly. I'm not saying that happened, I'm just saying that we do not see enough of what happened to say with any kind of certainty what kind of people any of those contestants are. I don't see the need to get in deep and personal here, it just reminds me of people who get in too deeply with a soap or drama and start thinking of the characters as real. We have seen several times on reality TV where even what people have said has been changed in the editing. Hardy's chuckle at Shannon was played out of sequence, louder, and put on a loop. In Survivor 1, words were eliminated, were played with action they didn't go with, and presented out of sequence. Reality TV is not necessarily real in the sense that it does not always truthfully portray events in context. It certainly does not portray people as they really are. Imagine if a TV producer took all of the worst moments from your life and made a TV show out of it. |
Dewolfe22 | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 05:12 pm   At first I liked team Bert & Ernie (Guido), until I heard them call the Frat Boys "Fatties" & started trying to sabotage the other teams. I know it is a game, but give me a break, even in war there are lines the opposing factions won't cross. Bert & Ernie seem to be crossing all the negative lines every chance they get! |
Sallycat | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 07:59 pm   The people on the very first Reality Show may have been caught unawares on the editing, but these people are fully aware that they are going to be given face time as it suits the entertainiment value. We have to root for some and trash others because that is what makes it fun. How they get some of the footage that they do, is because they become so acustomed to being near the camera, that they forget it is "on". Then we see the part we like...when they lose it. |
Tillie | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:35 pm   All the teams want to win since it is a competition for a measly million bucks. They all should be trying to muster some personal mojo. My problem with team guido is how smug and superior they feel that they are to everyone else. That is a really unlikeable quality but it makes for good tv. What would we do if they were all pollyannas? |
Tbear | Friday, October 12, 2001 - 09:33 pm   Dave and Marg did mention that they were bickering like the younger couples 40 years ago, but they have obviously stayed with the marriage and are seemingly mature and lovely people. All we can do is go by what we are seeing now. Marg also said, "This is what we are always like at home." I know that there is editing and it is sad if the producers manipulate the show. If the editors and producers are making some people act certain ways, then shame on them and the players, as this is suppose to be reality tv. I am not into Survivor 3 because it's the same thing, just different faces. I heard the producer admit they had stand-ins. That turned me off and just seeing and hearing people back-stabbing is a downer. Regarding speaking about real people's actions being the same as believing that the SOAPS are real, is unfair! That's making insulting assumptions about the people on this website that you only know a little bit about. |
Mickeybear | Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 07:15 am   They can't edit something you said to look worse, if you didn't say it. Yes they may have manipulated when and where words were spoken, but they were still spoken. If you don't want your words to be taken out of context, don't say them. Team Guido says mean things about everyone at some point it seems. The producers couldn't have put in them calling K&D 'the fatties' several times if they had never said it. |
Muse | Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 11:17 am   Guinevere - Tbear's got the right people pegged. Of course I personally just think of Rob as the cute one. Brennan's fine, but Rob's some mighty fine eye candy...Rob also seems to do more interviews/commentary, too. As for Drew and Kevin - Drew is the taller one. And although both are amusing/endearing, I think Drew seems to come up with more funny comments. |
Smileeys | Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 06:55 pm   Okay a disclaimer about my two cents: I don't like Team Guido, either, and I am overweight. I think it is a double standared to think it is wrong that the Guido's called the frat boys fatties and that it is okay/funny that the frat boys called Guido's - Bert and Ernie. I also think that it was funny/smart of the Frat brother's to try to fool Guido's. I think Team Guido are not playing against the rules when they mislead but can agree they are more malicious about it. (My new favorite word - Malicious |
Muse | Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 08:51 pm   The reason why I don't have a problem with the "Bert and Ernie" nickname is because I'm assuming it was probably not be intended to be hurtful or mean. Just cute/funny/whatever, especially, since it was used pretty early on in the game, before any grudges really started. I remember Rob mentioning it in an interview first (I think before the alliance even split, although I'm not sure). So I don't mind it. There doesn't seem to be malicious ( ) intent behind it, just maybe a little ignorance on what might border on being considered PC or not. And I like to think of it as just being cute (since they're a couple, dress the same sort of way, and even show some characteristics of Bert and Ernie - that is, one being a little more relaxed and the other being more uptight and likely to get annoyed at the other), so I've even referred to them as it in a few posts, even back when I liked them. I wouldn't mind if Team Guido came up with a clever nickname for the frat brothers, either...like "the two stooges" or something. (Okay, that's not that clever, but you get the point ) I don't think "fatties" could be considered in any way a joke or cute. It's immature (second grade, anyone??) and mean-spirited. I have a feeling that Drew and Kevin would care less, but I still don't like it. Obviously Team Guido knows that it's inappropriate to say things like that (especially when they're being filmed - and they don't even use it when they're angry or anything...just as part of their everyday speech when discussing the frat brothers, it seems). But apparently they don't care, which is strange because I thought they were a little smarter than that. |
Tbear | Sunday, October 14, 2001 - 02:36 am   MUSE, I think that the Frat Bros. would laugh at being named the 2 stooges. Can I use that? That is perfect for them! As far as the BERT and ERNIE referal, you have noticed a lot of similar characteristics-that are cute! But, I think perhaps they may have been named Bert and Ernie because they are life partners.... It is SICK, I know, because they are harmless sesame street characters, but I have heard comedians and whomever from way back, refer to the fact that "Bert and Ernie are gay because they sleep in the same room". Fatties surely can not be construed for anything other than an insult. Tbear |
Tbear | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 12:49 am   MUSE, I forgot about the description as Rob being the cute one because I had written it on another board and already told JUDY to back off. You best do the same thing!! Awww, who am I kidding being tough with a name like TBear! TBear |
Car54 | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 04:47 pm   Hey, I really hate the Guidos, so every day, I go over to the Amazing Race site and vote them my most disliked team.... kind of fun... |
Lobster | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 05:00 pm   And you're doing a great job, Car54!! Keep up the good work. You've inspired me. I'm going over there right now. |
Zed | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 06:52 pm   It's offical...team Guido is edited of the Earth(sorry Voyeur). 007 |
Car54 | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 07:12 pm   Thanks Lobster, I did it some more after the episode, they are down to 30% now.... |
Tvduck | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 07:20 pm   Guido Guido Guido... did you two not know that you were being taped? Pulling that childish act at the airport is just plain stupid. And twisted everything and lied about the whole thing afterward? That's just plain evil. |
Muse | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 07:46 pm   Aw, Tbear - can't we share? I've enjoyed Rob since the very first episode. You can have Brennan. Heck, I'll throw in Frank, Lenny, and the frat brothers, too. Sound fair? Oh, and sure - go ahead and refer to the frat brothers as the two stooges. They really are VERY funny. And to keep on topic - Guidos blantantly lied in this episode. They didn't show whether they pushed Nancy or not, but I'm a lot more likely to believe Kevin, Drew and the rest over the team that later lied to Karyn about the incident. What I don't understand is why...it's not like Team Guido wants to be friends with the other players, or want to clean up their image (hello, it's on tape!). Why try to make themselves look better just to Karyn? Also - I think they should have gotten a harsher penalty. Joe got lost when he was driving in the little car, yet they STILL came out ahead of the other teams (with the exception of Frank/Margarita), even with the time penalty. Seems like the penalty was shorter than the time they gained by getting off the train. |
Sukii1 | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 07:50 pm   I was floored this wasn't an elimination episode..I was like WHAT?? lol. Not that I'm out for blood or anything, and I would have lost my votings (mom and daughter)..but sheesh, I was hyped. This was an edge of the chair episode tonite. |
Muse | Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 08:12 pm   I agree, Sukii1. I was especially excited to see the final results because of the time Lenny and Karyn were supposed to be given to make up for the "production difficulties". When the host told Lenny and Karyn that they arrived last, then went on to add "...but", I thought for sure he was going to say that Nancy and Emily were going to be eliminated instead because of the delay. I kind of wish Lenny and Karyn had been eliminated, to be honest. Her scolding and her "Leeeennnnyyy" are so annoying, and I think there's going to be a lot of it in the next episode. Plus I just really want to see the teams that work better together (like Nancy and Emily) to do better than those that constantly fight (like Lenny and Karyn), anyway. |
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