Why I fear Drew and Kevin are done
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Hippyt | Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 10:01 pm   I hate to say it,but they seem to be toast! They are moving so slooooowww,and arguing. The Guidos are so much more focused. I think it's Bye-Bye for the frat brothers next week. On a good note,Rob and Brennan seem to hit every bit of bad luck you could get,and they are in first place!!!! I don't see Burt and Ernie being able to overtake them. |
Eknoo | Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 10:05 pm   I agree. They are just getting freaking annoying arguing over petty stuff. They had more than 3 hrs lead time yet they almost come in last. |
Tksoard | Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 10:09 pm   You bite your tongue, Hippyt!!! As long as I pick them to come in last, they are still in the game!! It's worked so far and I have NO stars!!  |
Muse | Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 10:17 pm   There's still a chance. Kevin is great at booking flights, remember? Hopefully they'll have an airport scene where the Guidos get left behind. I do have to admit I'm a little worried, though. I'm going to count on the fact that the show makes the Guidos look really overconfident, though. That way it'll be more fun for viewers when they're cut from making the final three!  |
Tbear | Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 11:00 pm   I'd ACTUALLY like to see Team Guido make it to the final three and then lose to The Lawyers or The Frats. I think if Team Guido lost to The Frats, they would be even more humbled due to their body sizes.
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Rissa | Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 07:48 am   Does anyone know just how far behind the frat boys, the Guidos finished? I was trying to work it out from the show itself, but you never know with editing how the actual sequence of events was and I can't find anything on the website. When morning arrived the frat boys had completed the climb plus the 2hour drive to the next stop just had the rowing and diving to do, right? While the Guidos still had to do the walk through the jungle, the climb (an hour), then drive to the next beach (2 hours according to Drew), the rowing, the dive and then the final boat ride to the pit stop? It looked like the Guidos were right behind Drew and Kevin but they must be at LEAST 4 hours behind. After all it did take the two leads teams all day to complete the leg and the Guido's only advantage was that they started the day at the site of their first task. Does anyone have a better guess at the time difference btn the two last teams? |
Weinermr | Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 08:39 am   Drew and Kevin will fight you will see, Those New Yorkers are winners to be, They both have much spunk, Though each looks like a lunk, Their might will force Guidos to flee! |
Bidasea | Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 08:50 am   Good one Weinermr...I love those Frat Boys. I agree with Muse. Kevin and Drew are good at the airport..I just hope the next challenge isn't that one team member has to pull the other in a Rickshaw.Yikes that would be hard. Team Guido had to spend money to stay in a hotel again this week..Hope they run out of cash. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 09:05 am   It looks like the order will pretty much stay as it is to the end. I expect to see either the laywers or Frank and Margarita in first. I agree, it does not look good for the NY guys. The margin of time between Guido and the guys could be longer than they are making it appear. They are definately in a race for third next week but we have no idea how close it actually is. |
Muse | Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 08:02 pm   Here's the times shown in the episode: 10:12 a.m. - Rob/Brennan depart 11:06 a.m. - Frank/Margarita depart 11:40 a.m. - R/B arrive at Raile Beach (where the rock climbing takes place) 11:53 a.m. - F/M arrive at Raile Beach 12:45 p.m. - F/M begin rock climbing, R/B begin rappeling down 1:47 p.m. - R/B arrive at Ao Nang and get a taxi to Ao Luk 2:11 p.m. - F/M arrive at Ao Nang 2:56 p.m. - R/B arrive at Ao Luk (kayaks) 3:03 p.m. - Kevin/Drew depart 3:18 p.m. - F/M arrive at Ao Luk (kayaks) 3:53 p.m. - K/D arrive at Raile Beach (rock climbing) 5:31 p.m. - R/B arrive at Chicken Island (diving) 5:47 p.m. - F/M arrive at Chicken Island 6:15 p.m. - Estimated time of check-in for both R/B and F/M, since Rob comments that the Guidos are just leaving while they're on the beach. 6:31 p.m. - Joe/Bill depart. 7:57 p.m. - Guidos get to Raile Beach (where they spend the night) 8:10 p.m. - K/D arrive at Ao Nang 9:30 p.m. - K/D arrive at Ao Luk at 9:30 p.m. (where they spend the night) 8:00 a.m. - K/D begin the kayak section; the Guidos begin the rock-climbing section. That's it. Both of the last two teams arrive during the day, but there's no times shown. So Frank/Margarita and Rob/Brennan leave at around 6:15 a.m. The prep for rock climbing seems to take about 45 minutes, getting to Ao Nang (including rock climbing) seems to take about 1 hour 15 minutes, and getting to Ao Luk seems to take just over 1 hour. So that would've given the frat brothers a three hour advantage over the Guidos at 8:00 a.m. Of course I think they lost some ground with the kayaking (especially since that seemed to take a lot of time) and the diving. So I'd think that they're maybe two hours ahead of the Guidos or so? And they might have arrived around 12:00 p.m. or so, which has them leaving at midnight, and the Guidos at 2:00 a.m. If they have tasks right away, the leading teams are in a good position since they can get to them while they're open. But if there's extensive travelling first, it doesn't really matter much. In fact, that might help the trailing teams since there could be bunching the next day. I just hope the frats get a jump ahead at the airport! |
Tntitanfan | Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 08:51 pm   The very first chance I get I am going to slap Frank upside the head! He is bearing down very hard on my very last nerve - |
Tbear | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 12:59 am   MUSE, you are amazing to get so much of that information and then type it all. When you say that you got these "times from the episode", do you mean a tv guide, did they show it on TV & I missed it, or did you actually take notes?? TNTITINFAN, Frank was seemingly nicer in the last few episodes, but I don't believe for one moment that a tiger can changes his stripes that easily. I am curious though as to what exactly bothered you in the last episode about him. He definitely is an abusive guy and needs professional help or he'll always have a control issue and lack of respect for women. |
Car54 | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 03:43 am   Muse- thanks so much! I thought the teams caught up so they were not a day apart! |
Kitt | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 02:03 pm   The host told the Guidos they had made up time, when they got to their pitstop, so they are definitely less than 3 hours (how they started) behind Drew and Kevin. I'm worried about D&K too. I'm hoping that the next leg involves a substantial amount of land travel and D&K can afford a taxi and the Guidos have to take a bus or something slower. I wondered if all three teams start the final leg at the same time, regardless of when they reach the pitstop before the final leg. It's just a theory, but I think it would make sense. When they planned the show it would always have been possible that there was a leader who was so far ahead it would make the show predictable. I think they may start everyone at the same time to add to the excitement. What do you all think? (And does anyone know for sure what happens?) |
Whoami | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 03:27 pm   Well, they may not start everyone off at the same time. That could be deemed unfair to those who have played so well to gain such a lead. But they could do what they've done before, which is to have an equalizer leg that has everyone waiting outside the gates of some place for it to open, or to wait out an extended period of time for a flight to depart. |
Muse | Friday, November 23, 2001 - 09:32 pm   Tbear - Those were times shown on the bottom of the screen thoughout the episode - mainly at the beginning and middle. A friend had asked me to tape the episode this week, and I decided to re-watch it with her. Since I was wondering about all the times after seeing it the first time, I wrote them down after the second. It all made much more sense to me that way. Kitt - I was wondering the same thing. I think there's a good chance that the final three teams will start the final leg at the same time. It would explain why all the teams seem mainly concerned about making the final three (rather than trying to gain a big lead), at least. If they didn't do that, you'd think you'd hear the Guidos griping about how much time they'd have to make up, rather than just trying to get ahead of the frat brothers. Plus like you said - dramatic purposes. If one or two of the final three were dragging *far* behind the leader(s), it might not be very interesting. They could eliminate that possibility by starting them all at the same time. Of course this is all just a theory...I certainly haven't seen it from an official source, so we could be totally wrong. All I know is that I'm going to be *very* upset if Team Guido makes the final three, and then gets such a huge boost time-wise.  |
Lurknomore | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 04:40 pm   Hiyya...I haven't been over here since BB2, but thought I'd pop back and read the boards and saw this one. I just LOVE this show and Drew and Kevin crack me up big time. I swear they are hysterical. That's not real fighting it's how they talk...and best I can tell it never slows them down...they just bicker and go! I would love to see them win this thing. And only one comment on "Team Guido"....could I hate them any more?!?!? |
Tksoard | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 04:50 pm   Hi Lurknomore!! Welcome back!! Go to the favorite lines thread. That's where you'll get a really flashback laugh!!  |
Tbear | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 10:50 pm   MUSE, I don't get anything like that on my screen...but cool. Welcome LURKNOMORE, I guess you are back to LURKSOMEMORE. TBear  |
Fruitbat | Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 04:44 am   Lurk!!! Howdeedo!!!! |
Squaredsc | Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 03:04 pm   tntitanfan and tbear, i think you all are a little harsh with frank, i at first didn't like him in the beginning but he is growing on me and i think he was harsh with margarita on the mountain 'cause she needed that push to get herself up there (i mentioned the same thing on another thread) my husband would have done the samething to me but i would have been cursing at him all the way up. i think that she is just a little too passive with him. he needs someone to tell him to shut the he-l up sometimes and she doesn't do that. but all in all they do work well together and i am really pushing for them in real life 'cause a child does need two parents and im pushing for them to also win. ok, getting down off my soap box on that one. but regarding the topic, im hoping the show is trying to mislead us and i love kevin and drew and sure hope they don't lose out to those evil guidos. GO KEVIN & DREW GO DREW & KEVIN RA RA RA  |
Tksoard | Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 03:50 pm   I saw the new trailer today, and they said it was a photo finish for 3 and 4 place. Please let my frat bros sit on the guidos!!  |
Spygirl | Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 05:17 pm   I actually think that Frank's behavior in and of itself doesn't indicate that he is abusive, it is actually Margarita's response to his verbal barage that is a better indicator. It really seems to me that he could be at least verbally abusive, if not physically. Just my opinion. |
Car54 | Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 05:50 pm   I think what Spy says is probably true. I suspect that this is an old pattern for Frank and Margarita- he is a yeller. I think she does a pretty good job of dealing with him, but that is sure not something I would want to live with day to day. For a while it looked like he was really growing more respectful of her, and she seemed so happy in this new relationship, but I think under the stress of the leg last week, he reverted to his old patterns. Margarita seems like a very strong person, but this kind of pattern is probably part of why they were apart for a while. |
Muse | Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 10:56 pm   Tbear - You probably do get the times. I don't mean they show them all at one time. Just one at a time...like when they show a team departing, they'll flash their names and the time (bottom left of the screen). Later on, when a team arrived at Raile Beach, the words "Raile Beach" and the time might pop up. But it's easy to not to notice all that, especially if you're busy watching the action. Or in this episode - even just looking at the scenery, since it was such a gorgeous place. And they don't show times for all the crucial moments of the race, either. |
Fruitbat | Monday, November 26, 2001 - 04:19 am   It is possible that Frank will see his behaviour more clearly now that it is caught on tape. Nothing like actually viewing yourself in action. I hope so. He physically pushed her quite hard in the first episode. Kitt...I bet you are right. It makes sense to start the three finalists at the same time. Much more exciting. If this is the plan, all are aware of this rule and the race, thus far, is to place in the final three for a shot at the win. |
Crazydog | Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 08:03 am   I don't think the final three teams will all start at the same time, I think it would be really unfair to those who have worked hard to gain the lead. I know Rob said something like, our goal is to get to the final three, but maybe that's because they know the final three get to go all the way to the end or that there is money awarded for third and up only. I want Kevin and Drew to make it as well, but it looks like the Guidos catch up to them. They have the eating challenge at the same time and then are racing in rickshaws late at night. Looks like they have to take rickshaws to the pitstop. If it is as close as the previews suggest, it looks bad for Kevin and Drew, since they are much heavier and will not be able to run as fast at the end. |
Corriecat | Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:47 pm   If the final three don't start at the same time I expect they will have one of those airline or train rides that puts them all together near the start of the final leg to create more suspense. |
Hippyt | Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 07:18 pm   Well,Didn't that just suck? Maybe I should open my own psychic hotline for things that I don't want to see happen!!!! |
Meme9 | Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 07:29 pm   You're right Hippyt, that Sucked big time!!! |
Whoami | Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 09:58 pm   I think what did the Frat Boys in was they panicked and got out of the cab to run without knowing which gate was the south gate. Guidos kept their cool and fished out their language book to better get the point across to their driver. That's what won it for them. As much as I dislike them, and love the Frats, Guidos deserved this one for staying cool. |
Kitt | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 03:22 pm   Well it looks like the last three teams do not start at the same time. That's a big handicap for the Guidos... thankfully. Plus the trailer suggested they would catch up (and even go ahead) which to me suggests they actually won't. I agree Whoami, the Guidos worked well by translating South Gate for their driver, they did deserve to win that leg. Annoying isn't it? ;-) |
Hippyt | Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 08:02 pm   Yeah,that's the most frustrating thing about it,the Guidos actually did it ,and it was an honest win! I still say they won't win the game though. |
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