Archive through October 19, 2001

The ClubHouse: Archives: *****THEY ARE OUTCASTS!!!!!!!**** IT'S AWNNNNNNN!!!: Archive through October 19, 2001

Car54

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 07:03 pm Click here to edit this post
Ok what really happened at the airport?

Tvduck

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 07:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Guido was the 1st team got to the airport. There was a strike in Rome so no direct flight to Rome at that moment. Right after Guido got their tickets Kevin & Drew arrived and Bill spoke French to the lady at the counter. Drew heard what he said and got mad and said "he could break his leg. You don't know but we speak French too." and Bill said "not as good as we do... we were working to your advantage" and Drew said "no you're not" Anyway, after Guido no team got tickets to anywhere because all flights were full.

Guido now all relax and happy about being the only team got tickets out of Tunis. Then Drew & Kevin charmed another lady at the ticket counter and got tickets for themselves as well as Emily/Nancy & Rob/Bennan. Their flight would leave before Guido's. However, they only got very little time to get to the flight so they walked fast to the gate. Guido all nervous about it and decided sneaked ahead of them and block the entired gate. The show even showed how these two planned to block the gate. They can't lie about it.

Muse

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 08:02 pm Click here to edit this post
Another thing about it...Drew and Kevin said that Team Guido deliberately blocked Nancy at the gate, even pushing her a little to prevent her from getting through. Drew and Kevin were very angry about that (as were the lawyers), and felt that Team Guido pushed her out of the way since she was a woman (and thus an easier target - she wouldn't fight back or get angry like the guys might).

Team Guido, though, told Karyn that they didn't push Nancy. I believe they said something about one of them hitting her with their pack.

I'm guessing that it was an accident (pushing her, that is - one of them probably hurried to step in her way and/or edge her back, and accidentally struck her with the pack since she was trying to go forward). In any case, it resulted from them deliberately trying to block Nancy. The Guidos were obviously trying to do whatever they could to prevent the other teams from getting through, and doing a little shoving was part of it. I don't think they're willing to admit that they were being pretty pushy at the gate, though, or even that they were trying to stop the other teams. What especially annoys me is that they don't even seem to realize themselves that they're failing to show any real semblance of good sportsmanship. They almost seemed to believe their lie to Karyn about just happening to reach the gate before the other teams, and that they weren't trying to stop them from missing their flight.

Car54

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 08:23 pm Click here to edit this post
I just hate that Bill Guido... he is the worst!!! He is always the one to set up these nasty things.
I am glad they got penalized later for getting off the train...that Bill was so smarmy- he "thought he was being smart!"

I felt really bad for Nancy...she seemed really tired and this seemed to change her attitude.

Hippyt

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 08:35 pm Click here to edit this post
They also showed a view in the crowd during this fiasco, of Emily being shoved around and crying.
I seriously think team Guido is delusional! Or,at least Bill (I guess,I just call them Burt and Ernie)He's either forgetten he's being taped,or he really has no idea what a jackass he is!
I swear,if these guys win.........I'll break their legs!
How smart was that of Frank to hire a taxi to drive him to the checkpoint!!!! Awesome game move!

Car54

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 08:49 pm Click here to edit this post
I posted in another thread...I think every single team ***except the hated Guidos*** did really well this week at the teamwork-

Frank was nice to Margarita, he was really smart to let someone lead him... he would have been to cocky in the beginning to do that... he let
Margarita decide on the plane to take, and that put them ahead...

Karen didn't yell at Lennneeey this week at all and for a little while they were actually first!

Emily was nice and respectful to her mom, and defended her when the Guidos were total dinks.

This could actually be one of the reality shows where the real good guys win... that would be so neat!!! The odds are with us... 6 nice deserving teams- one team who stink...

*dont forget to go to CBS and vote that you dislike the Guidos...this is my new mission for the week*

jeez it really doesn't take much to get me stirred up does it?

Hippyt

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 09:04 pm Click here to edit this post
Car54,ROFL,my husband has been ranting for an hour now about team Guido!! This man never gets upset about anything!!(It's very funny)
So,I guess you aren't the only one stirred up,so am I,they suck.
By the way,I went there last night and voted their popularity down,just for fun!!!

Fflur

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 09:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Car54, I was brushing my teeth and fuming after watching this weeks episode and all I could think could up with was "Its awnnnn." I was so happy to see somebody thinking just like me! I was actually yelling at the tv, "Those nasty Guidos!" "You'll get yours." My dog went in her little house, she must think Im nuts.

Oxjawhand

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 11:53 pm Click here to edit this post
At first, I was totally disgusted by the Guidos tonight. As if the airport and denials at the "hoof" weren't enough, the implication at the end of the show that they were in danger made me want to hurl.

Now, I'm glad they did and said all of it. They did not succeed in their attempt to get the three teams to miss their plane, but the whole world got to see them plan the whole thing and then deny it. This one can't be blamed on "the editing", and should be an embarrassment to them.

And if this wasn't enough of a mitigating factor, the time penalty for taking the taxi sure makes up for it! "I didn't think it was cheating! I thought I was being clever!" (Psst.... Team Guido... we know your're liars!)

I can't believe David & Margaretta went home and these guys are still here.

C1mag

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 02:32 am Click here to edit this post
That airport scene was a shocker! Two hell bent on exacting revenge for the others getting lucky and having better flight plans. Can you imagine how small they must feel knowing that their neighbors and associates watched that? I always say, "What goes around comes around"

If Rob and Brennan, along with the Frat bro's put their heads together I truly believe they could eliminate this team. It could be accomplished but you gotta use your head because Bert and Ernie aren't gonna fall easy. Perhaps something similar to what the frat bro's did to them last week. A good ol lie spoken out loud that would send them in the opposite direction.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but before this show began wasn't there a promo with Rob and Brennan saying that there is nothing in the rules that say you can't lie to the others? We've yet to see Rob and Brennan lie to anyone and the way it looks right now I doubt they would lie to anyone but Guido. Perhaps it's going to happen. It's the only way to get rid of them.

Mindyrama

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 06:50 am Click here to edit this post
I can't remember the last time I was ever so disgusted and angry over a stupid TV show! The Guidos stooped to a new low that no other reality show contestant has EVER stooped to! Do they not realize they are being taped??? As for Kevin(or was is Drew?) who said he'd break their legs, he said right after that he was just kidding and pinched (one of their) cheeks..it was all in good fun and the Guido's know damn well it wasn't a real threat. But the Guido's were starting to tell the agent about the other contestants and Kevin knew what they were doing and was warning them.
They sit there and tell Lenny and Karen that they happened to get to the gate first...ummmm....come on! They had no reason to be at that gate! That wasn't their flight! I'm so glad that it was all filmed, and I hope they are embarrased by their behavior (but I doubt it). It wouldn't have been so bad if they had just said, Yes, we are playing to win and we were being a-holes...rather than sit their and lie!! Grrrrr! I'm so angry!!!

If they win I swear I will never watch another reality show again!...I just wish one group would sacrifice themselves to bring down the Guidos!

Ok, done venting...thanks!

Roe325

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 07:28 am Click here to edit this post
Hmmm,hmmmm,hmmmm. What a couple of edited. I am so impressed that Drew and Kevin had enough control in that airport not to kick the u know what out of those two.

I just couldn't believe my eyes, than my ears!! Then I realized, yes, these guys must be delusional, they are me, me, me! they where matching outfits, EVERYDAY, not once in awhile, because its cute, but everyday!! that's just not cute, that's delusional. and I bet as they watch the show in their living room today, they are still telling themselves how Drew and Kevin threatened them. ugggggggggggggggggggg.

Anyway, these are the newest villains of reality TV, just when you think you cant dislike anyone more than Richard Hatch, or Shannon Michelle, insert your most disliked here ________,along comes The Evil Bert and The Evil Ernie, or as I call them the doublemint twins or the ambiguously edited duo. please note happy faces are wearing matching outfits.
007

Jewels

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 07:31 am Click here to edit this post
I couldn't believe it when the one Guido (Bill) was talking about "the escalationg violence", what hogwash! If Drew (or Kevin?) was really threatening him, why did Bill pinch him on the cheeks? That wouldn't have been my reaction to someone who was threatening to break my legs! How ridiculous.

I thought it was really odd that the Guidos were talking to the ticket agent saying "here come the other contestants" and then Drew and Kevin get up there and the tickets are sold out. I got this weird feeling that they bribed her to say that or something.

Realtvfan

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 10:20 am Click here to edit this post
Jewels,

Two things happened this week that make me smell a potential setup of a different kind on the part of the show.

We all now know that the airport situations are built in equalizing factors to keep everyone in the race together until the end. And we all know that there are more airports to come as well.

1) Did the show's producers setup the Tunis airport situation when they saw the Guido's first. The show producers would have told the airline ticket agent to sell the later tickets to the Guido's and wait 15 minutes then sell the earlier tickets to just 3 other teams. The show's producers know the flight schedules days in advance of the teams arriving to any airport. This seems fishy to me. This does not excuse the Guido's behavior at all. Just some fun by the shows producers.

2) When 3 teams arrived at the taxi, only 2 received rides and the girls had to wait for a taxi to return. They could not call or flag down another taxi nearby. Again it seems suspicious to me that there were two taxis there then none for all that time. Don't taxies have radios. Again potential producer interference.

All because the producers knew that no one would be eliminated this week.

Fruitbat

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 11:01 am Click here to edit this post
Yes, it seemed strange to me too. I do believe any tampering with the outcome would cause a law suit so I don't know what to think.

Jewels

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 11:25 am Click here to edit this post
I know something was going on there, it was just to strange.

Where is Ewing with his conspiracy theories?

Realfan

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 12:52 pm Click here to edit this post
I thought the reason someone wasn't eliminated was because of the messed up time for the last team which actually arrived (due to production difficulties). I think they just decided it wouldn't be fair to eliminate Lenny and Karen, nor would it be fair to those racing against them to shock them with an elimination after they'd already checked in.

It'll be interesting to see how they make up for this non-elimination point. It's also curious that there are three points this happens, and this first one happened to coincide with the time screw up for the last team.

Does that mean there are more time screw ups, or was this really planned all along?

In either case, it's still a very well-thought-out game, and great fun to watch--when I'm not plotting ways to get rid of GUIDO. (UGH!)

Calamity

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 01:15 pm Click here to edit this post
C1mag wrote:
<<Correct me if I'm wrong, but before this show began wasn't there a promo with Rob and Brennan saying that there is nothing in the rules that say you can't lie to the others? We've yet to see Rob and Brennan lie to anyone and the way it looks right now I doubt they would lie to anyone but Guido. Perhaps it's going to happen. It's the only way to get rid of them.>>

I also saw the commercial with the "there's nothing in the rules that say you can't lie to the other teams" comment. Coupled with learning that they were the "lawyer team", I was all set to hate Rob & Brennan. But they've been great and I hope you're right that the remark refers to a trick they pulled on Team Guido. (And to think I liked the Guidos following the first episode!)

Muse

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 02:06 pm Click here to edit this post
The comment about the rules might have been made in regards to Team Guido's behavior. Rob and Brennan have been very gracious about giving Joe and Bill props for playing the game so well. So is it possible that they were just saying something about being upset at the things Team Guido does, but that it's not against the rules? I don't remember the promo very well, so I'm just curious. :)

In any case - I DO hope that Rob and Brennan (or Drew and Kevin, or any team for that matter) try to sabotage Team Guido at some point. I think the other teams have tried their best to ignore Guidos' behavior, and not sink to their level. But Team Guido has just gone SO far that I wouldn't blame another team for deciding to get their hands a little dirty (within limits, of course). Because, you know...it's AWWWWWWN!

Smileeys

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 10:54 pm Click here to edit this post
Don't know about the conspiracy flight and cab theory but do know that Paul and Aimee also were held up one time for production difficulties and received a time adjustment. The changing of elimination points was planned - more episodes left than eliminations.

Kellee

Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:41 am Click here to edit this post
Yes there is more eppisodes left than eliminations but this is also a pretaped reality show not a live one. Which means they dont have to plan how many eppisodes in advance? Do the contestants know how many legs of the journey there is? Just curious....

Car54

Friday, October 19, 2001 - 04:01 pm Click here to edit this post
I just checked the CBS website and we have take the Guidos down on the popularity poll from 30% to 21% in 3 days!!!!!!
I am proud of us!!! They are just the kind of guys who are sitting home now, checking their status on the website daily.....
Of the remaining teams, Kevin & Drew are at 88%,
Nancy & Emily are climbing at 87%,
Leeenneey & Karen are at 67% (for them that is UP)
Rob & Brennan are really flat at 67% as well, and
Frank & Margaritta have been steady at 60%

Lets go see if we can get those Guidos down to single digits by next week's episode...go take the poll and while you are there vote the other guys up!!!!
Boy ,can you tell I know how to hold a grudge???

Faux_Pas

Friday, October 19, 2001 - 05:59 pm Click here to edit this post
Hate to tell you this, but I don't think it's possible to get them into single digits. The lowest score you can give them is a 1 and the highest is a ten. All tens would give you 100% popularity, 9s would give you 90%, and so on. All 1s would give them 10%. So 0% popularity is impossible. On the positive side, we're getting really close to 10%.
Off to vote a few more dozen times.

Car54

Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:37 pm Click here to edit this post
damn....

Hippyt

Friday, October 19, 2001 - 09:44 pm Click here to edit this post
Car 54,I went by and did my part today,and my husband walked by and I showed it to him. He was like,"20 percent,why do they Have Freaking 20 percent,they should have none!" He's funny,kinda like you. I'll stop back by and give the Guidos a little more joy for their catty little lives.
I totally agree with you,they are the type who would be watching that 24/7. But,you know as delusional as they are,they'll just blame it on the fact that they're openly gay! We're all just gay bashers!