No Elimination Legs

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Judy

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 09:44 am Click here to edit this post
Did anyone else notice that Whatshisface said
"This is a no elimination point- one of 3 in the race"

So there will be 2 more legs where no one is eliminated??!!

Does anyone know any more details on this - like how many episodes there are, etc.
I am REALLY glad that I didn't know until the end that no one would be leaving as it was really suspenseful this week.
But looking back on it- I think the players knew...Karyn's face when she walked up and Whatshisface was there to greet them - she just was happy- didn't look upset to see him at all.

Jewels

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 11:23 am Click here to edit this post
Do you think the players knew this was a no-elimination point? Karyn didn't seem upset that they were last at all, like she knew it was okay. But earlier in the episode Emily made a comment when they had to wait for the cab to come back and get them at the train station that she hoped they didn't get eliminated. I don't know, I don't think they would tell them, but Karyn's reaction was odd to me.

Fruitbat

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 11:27 am Click here to edit this post
There are a couple of posts in another thread talking about how strange the airport scene was. Team Guido get the last 2 seats, no one can find another flight without schmoozing etc. It brought up the question of funny business from production.

Maybe there was something going on that they later decided was unfair, wrong or amiss in some way, thus changing the rules for elimination this episode.

That makes sense to me. At least it implies that something may have gone on at the airport that was not kosher.

Voyeur

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 12:58 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't think the players knew it wasn't an elimination leg. They shouldn't tell them or they won't compete hard. Karyn may have been told they would get a time bonus by her producer, so she was probably feeling less pressured.

On the web site, they show 13 episodes on the episode tracker. If three of those are non-elimination legs, that leaves 10 episodes that are, and with 11 contestants, it appears that the last episode will be the final two racing to the end.

I'm thinking that if the Guidos had won, they would have used more flattering footage of them. But I also think that they will be in there until close to the end, because if the villians get eliminated, and the audience is saying, "Anybody but them!" viewership may drop off when they go unless we're fairly close to the end. Right now there are a *lot* of people who are watching especially so they can root against the Guidos.

Realfan

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 12:59 pm Click here to edit this post
I think Lenny and Karen were told they wouldn't be eliminated before they stepped on the mat, because of the production problem which cost them time. That's why they weren't unhappy. The other teams probably hadn't been briefed yet, but I imagine their cameraman--who had the problem, no doubt--had contacted the game organizers by radio and explained the situation. Since his team was last, they couldn't eliminate them and came up with the no-elimination plan.

I have no idea about the other two no-elimination points, though, or how many eps there are total and how this might affect that.

Spear

Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 01:09 pm Click here to edit this post
Voyeur, I agree that there would be less pressure
if the contestants knew this was a non-elimination
leg. However, they still need to compete hard
because the times carry over to the next round
and they can't let the leaders get too far ahead.
To me, this just looks like an extra-long elimination
leg.

Kep421

Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 05:08 am Click here to edit this post
I think that non-elimination points were something that the producers held in reserve just in case something went amiss that they could not control. This game is not only good in terms of entertainment, it is also a very well planned and thought out production. (JMHO)

I don't think they planned them in advance nor predetermined when they would be used. With a game this unpredictable it is only common sense to have a sort of "contingency rule" that could be used in unforseen circumstances. I believe that is why they chose less couples than the number of weekly shows.

If there are no unforseen circumstances (which I very much doubt given the countries they are visiting), the producers could then randomly use remaining non-elimination points the closer they get to the end of the game.

As for Karyn, I'll bet she was thinking the same thing I was. I thought because of the time credit they would be moved ahead of the team that got their just ahead of them.

Car54

Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 05:34 am Click here to edit this post
Kep, I totally agree.. this show raises the bar on reality show production... it is well produced and planned. The storytelling is great..they have us on the edge of our seats every week.
I sent an e-mail at their site thanking the producers for such a well done show. (I really want them to continue, so am trying to voice my feelings to the network).
The logistics on this show must be a nightmare... and they must have to build in ways to handle problems at every step.
I was holding my breath when Lenny and Karyn checked in...I realized they had a time credit, but we didn't know how much time they had and would that make up the difference for them.
I thought when Phil met them at the mat he said "as you know, this is a non-elimination round..." so I assumed they all knew they were safe and were racing for start times the next round. Maybe if someone taped the show they could check this.

Ryn

Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 05:56 am Click here to edit this post
When I watched it my thoughts were the same as Keps, it was unplanned and they decided not to eliminate anyone. If you have it taped go back and watch it and the whole segment seems to be dubbed in (the hosts voice).

My guess is in reality there were 2 other instances later when they had additional problems and in post production they dubbed in the voice saying it was a non-elimination point. We only have their word as to when each team arrived, they could have played with things all the time to make things seem closer than they were, etc.

Like every reality show except BB we never know the whole story since everything is done and over with long before we see show #1.

That being said, I do enjoy the show.

Wink

Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 09:14 am Click here to edit this post
>>>I'm thinking that if the Guidos had won, they would have used more flattering footage of them. But I also think that they will be in there until close to the end, because if the villians get eliminated, and the audience is saying, "Anybody but them!" viewership may drop off when they go unless we're fairly close to the end. Right now there are a *lot* of people who are watching especially so they can root against the Guidos<<<

Voyeur I totally agree. They are absolutely the team we all want to see falter and as long as they are in the race we'll be tuning in every week in hopes of seeing them get their comeuppance by finishing each leg anywhere but first.

I also think Lenny and Karyn are being portrayed as less than stellar competitors to throw us off the fact they may in fact be the winners.

Ryn

Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 09:14 pm Click here to edit this post
Well Wink, at least the second part of your theory was just shot down - lol

Anyone but the Guidos now!!!!

Tksoard

Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 10:25 pm Click here to edit this post
In next weeks show, they said that the man wouldn't sell tickets to the women. I think it will be another non-eliminations race. If not, it should be!!

Wink

Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 11:22 pm Click here to edit this post
You're right Ryn. My balloon is busted. I was surprised to hear some of the things Karen had to say in her little speech at the end. Kind of cruel and stuff better left to a private conversation with Leneeeee.

Kitt

Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 04:52 pm Click here to edit this post
Good point Tksoard, I was thinking how unfair it would be for them to go out on this. Notice how (in the trailer) when they sort it out, the Guidos are with them? Nyah hah hah.