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Cassie
Member

07-15-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pascalle, can you give me the essence of Rudy's speech. I work and didn't get to see the morning show.

Brenda, totally agree on the charity thing.

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
He said on the morning show he'd give half the money to the widow's & family of the fallen soldiers in Iraq, I believe Cassie.

And as far as Jenna feeling she betrayed Rupert....she made a point last night of telling him she would not side with Rob & Amber,before they went to TC, so it was a surprise to Rupert when it was 3-1.

Yuhuru
Member

09-27-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't watch Survivor I so I'm not really that into Rudy. I'm impressed that someone his age is in such great shape, but there's something a little off to me.

It would be a nice gesture to give the families of fallen Iraqi soldiers the money, but after taxes I don't think that's even $500. I wouldn't have a problem if he decided to give it to his own children. It would probably make a bigger impact. You know 'cause it matters if I have a problem with it or not :-)

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Yuhuru. Amber and Rob did not impress me with their nonsense of giving some of their $600,000 to charity either.

Rudy's comment about being afraid he would have done 'something', implying violence, had he stayed and witnessed the back stabbing was ridiculous bravado and did not ring true anyway.

Hippyt
Member

06-15-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's just Rudy speak,and I don't mean that in a homo-type way!

Lurknomore
Member

07-07-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Know what this reminds me of? When you see a bit on the news about someone who hit a huge lottery JP and they say "I'm not quitting my job, moving from my house, and it's not gonna change my life at all." Well DANG why play then? I WANT my life bettered...I want $$$ not to be an issue in my life. And if that was the case I really think I could do a heck of a lot of more good in this world than I am now.

So my point is, what is so wrong with folks WANTING the mil to improve their lives? Thumbs up for Jeff for pointing it out. True giving is done quietly and from the heart...not flaunted about to garner votes IMHO.

All that said, I plan to vote who I think deserved the million bucks (wasn't that what the site said yesterday, not who do you want to have it? What's up with that

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Hippy.

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jeff said vote for whoever you choose for any reason. I take that to mean, vote your favorite.

Bob2112
Member

06-12-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If you give $1 Million to a charity, can't you deduct that and not have to pay any tax on it?

Karuuna
Member

08-31-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not quite, Bob. There are limitations on taxable deductions on donations.

For one thing, you can't give/deduct more than 20, 30 or 50% of your adjusted gross income, depending on the type of organization to which you're giving.

Also, if you make over $139,500 (in 2003), your total Schedule A itemized deductions (including your donations) are reduced as well, according to the following complicated formula: 80% of your deductions/donations would be decreased by 3%.

So, if you made over $139,500, and you gave $1,000,000, you could only deduct 50%, or perhaps 20 or 30%.

Assuming it was 50%, then of that 500,000, 80% of it (400,000) would be further reduced by 3% ($12,000).

In other words, you'd still owe a heckuva lot of tax, even if you tried to give it all away.



Pascalle
Member

09-25-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Charity begins at home, I agree Lurk.

Divinesara
Member

05-10-2004

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 5:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
As a die-hard reality show fan I just love this whole message board and have been lurking for over a year and finally decided to join so here is my first post...

I think this idea to give someone a Million Dollars via an internet vote is just to funny. In fact it's laughingly ( is that a word?) blatant. Why don't they just write out a check to Rupert right now? It's common knowledge he is the most popular on the internet. That being said... I did not vote for him because among other things, I am not going to do what they want me to do.

I simply asked myself who made me start watching this show and who made this show the phenom that it is? For me that is mean ol Sue. I just love to hate that woman. I watch each year waiting to see if there will ever be anyone like her again on this show. Her final speech will by far be the most jaw dropping moment EVER on any reality show! I think that moment alone is worth a million while the show made trillions off of her. That moment just elevated the whole idea of reality shows and what could happen if the right or wrong person was pushed to a breaking point.
So she gets my vote.

I actually don't think Rupert was all that great of a player at this game. Never impressed me. He's just a character that they edited together but I always felt we were being played by the edit of him as a man. I was never impressed when he was drinking and never impressed with his "emotional" approach to the game. I was never impressed with the idea that he provided food. It could be argued they let him get the food and used him and in the end they could all say he was a sucker if he ever thought they would let him near the actual money. Both times that's exactly what they did. While he puffed his chest out and bragged that he provided the food the rest of them ate the food and rested aqnd in the end made sure he didn't get the money. I don't know how that equates to a great player. Just my opinion of an ordinary guy.





Lurknomore
Member

07-07-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Fruit...you can take it however you like . Luckily this is still America! And since this came with no real rules I take it to mean I should vote for the person, in MY opinion, who is most deserving. That is what it originally said on the web site and the question they asked the Survivors.

All that said, know what I find foolish? All the campaigning here. ROFLMAO. Does a Rupert die hard think I'm gonna change my vote? Does a Rob person think that's Rupert's gang will see the light and vote Rob? HECK NO. So why are folks getting so all fired up about who is the one right person to vote for. We are all gonna vote for whomever we prefer for whatever reason we think is the most valid.

It reminds me of folks holding placards with a candidates name on it in front of a polling place. Does that actually ever change anyone's minds, esp in a major election? Boy I doubt it (and hope not lol).

I do wish CBS did a better job clarifying what the heck we were voting for and why, rather than wait for the big suprise at the end of the show and just say vote (and then reword it on their own site). Funny thing is, I would feel SO much better about Rupert getting it if I felt less like CBS was just trying to find a way to slant the vote to him (a la the early show comments, etc). I'm not a fan of being manipulated as I've mentioned before.

Lurknomore
Member

07-07-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Welcome Sara...and funny we were voting similar posts but with different slants at the same time! GMTA. It didn't occur to me with the web, but excellent point. I just don't get this being set up this way...or why. Of course as I posted somewhere along the line I don't get why they set up 3 tribes like they did, knowing the winners would have been picked off. It would have been far more interesting to have a tribe of winners. But I am being redundant.

I also don't get the famous moments they choose...I think some stand out far more in my mind. (Of course Sue's speech did set the benchmark lol). But how could you not have Rudy's homosexual comment. America was wearing Tshirts with that one it season 1. Do those questions even mean anything?

Personally I think if CBS was so gung ho to give out another mil..why not find a way for it to go to a fan. Or have half go to a fan and let them choose a Survivor to share it with or something like that. Tons of promotional possibilities on that front. Big, missed opportunity if you ask me.

Sasha
Member

03-06-2004

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I voted for Boston Rob. He was the reason why I watched this season. He reminded me of Will from BB2.

Pascalle
Member

09-25-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 6:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good points Lurk and Div. Yes i feel a little manipulated by this extra million as well. Div, I am not downing these two guys but as a woman, I wondered during the game this year about Tom and Rupert's drinking. I wondered if they come home late and get a little arbitrary on occasion? It is none of my business and I'm goung against my own principles by even bringing this up but I wouldn't want big tom or Rupert coming thrugh my door after a night of drinking, it would scare me. Just a thought and probably not a very good one but I have wondered about this. My apologies to Tom and Rupert fans.

Hamsterlady
Member

07-03-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I've voted for Rupert, Rudy, and COLBY. All because I wanted to. If any of those three win it I will be ecstatic! And if any other wins it, then that's fine also. :-)

I didn't vote for any of them because of some promises of charity donations, because of promises of taking care of their community, or because of promises of keeping the sky blue. (OK, I made the last one up....hehehe)

They're my favorites from the All-Stars.

And I like them goshdurnit!

There's my reasoning.

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I dont think anyone deserves the million bucks. Amber won the game and that should be that. Trust CBS to ruin a good game. If they want to reward a specific player they could have just hired him to host a show or something.

heck, if CBS has an extra million lying around why not actually make the big brother a prize of a million bucks.

Babyruth
Member

07-19-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 7:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Matt deserves the million. Wish I could vote for him.

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
True Maris...3 mo and all they get is 500 grand!

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, Matt was an outstanding player, Ruth.

"Goshdurnit...pretty strong language there missy. Hey, how come you didn't get modded for that Hamsterlady??? ;)

Lancecrossfire
Moderator

07-13-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like that JP said to vote based on any reason you want. While it clearly ends up being a type of popularity contest in affect, it still gives people the freedom to vote for other reasons--and CBS/MB basically saying "we don't want to limit you in any way--make it about what you want and why you want it".

So if they have to do it at all, at least they are being respectful to us.

It also allows for including past games they were in. I thought Tom had a good point--he made it longer than anyone else as far as total days in the game. One could say that over all for two games, he played better. Longevity is typically included in the criteria looked at for a career. Of course a Survivor career won't ever be longer than 2 shows.

I thought about voting for Colby because I liked the way he played. He was upfront, he tried to win every challenge he was in, and he was honest about how he felt. He didn't like the UTR game, however he said to their faces and not just behind their back.

In the end though, I voted for Rupert. Over all, I liked how he took the pirate theme to heart. I liked that he tried to have fun out there in each case. I liked that he stuck with Rudy when everyone else voted against Rudy--because he said he would to Rudy.

I know Rupert had some down sides to his game. Over all thought, I thought he was good for the game--he renewed people's enjoyment in watching. As big as Survivor is, that says a lot when you can do that.

I thought Rob played a great game--Amber played better, because she didn't piss as many people off in a personal way.

Cassie
Member

07-15-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lance, can we say piss on this board?

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lol...that's two bodily functions for Lance in the past week or so...lmao ;)

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
oh my heck. i hope he doesn't have to do number 3!!