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Beachcomber88

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Has there ever been talk by MB/CBS about an All-Star Survivor? If NBC can do a Battle of the Champions thing for the lame Fear Factor after only two seasons, then certainly Survivor deserves one!

My suggestions...

The Brainy/Conniving ones - Richard, Brian, Rob
The Athletic ones - Colby, Ethan, Alicia, Matthew
The Lookers - Colleen, Elisabeth, Sarah, Jenna
The Annoying ones - Stacey, Kimmi, Rob M., Robb
The Old ones - Rudy, Rodger, Paschal

Just a thought. Although I doubt it will ever happen due to the expense of the show and the desire to discover new personalities.

Djgirl5235

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Beach - I had heard that season 9 will be the All-Star Survivor with 2 from each season... I do know that I read an article about it somewhere, but I'm not sure where - it was quite awhile ago.

You have some fantastic choices above! Absolutely perfect!

Seamonkey

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would think they wouldn't let the former Sole Survivors play.

Good choices above! I'd add Shii-Ann for brainy/conniving

Rissa

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 5:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree... great choices Beach. One problem, IMO... no past winners should be allowed. My reasoning on this is that they wouldn't stand a chance anyway.... think anyone would let Richard or Brian get past the 2nd tribal council? LOLOL So all it does is make the first few episodes predictable.

Replace... Richard and Brian with Kel (who got cheated out of the game more than any other player before or since, IMO) and that woman from #4 who came in third.... seniors moment, can't remember her name. LOL

Beachcomber88

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rissa, I think you're thinking about Kathy, the middle-ageish woman with the curly hair.

I forgot about Kel. Good choice.

I'd also like to add Joel from Survivor 1 for the athletic ones. He got voted out early because people were afraid of him.

I'm sure Jerri will be disappointed to know she is not included in the Lookers category!

Whoami

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 12:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OK, here's my picks...First, the criteria (in my eyes). One man and one woman from each show. No winners, maybe not even F2. I picked folks who were strong, or grabbed my attention in some way, but were booted off by alliances, circumstances, or what not...and ones I would have liked to see play longer. It's not really a coincidence I didn't pick any young Hollywood wannabees. I want to see a tough game. No "pretty girl" or "mall rat" alliances.

SI: Gretchen and Greg
SII: Alicia and Michael
SIII: Teresa and Lex
SIV: Kathy and Hunter
SV: Helen and Ken
SVI: Christy and Rob

Whoami

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 12:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's the links to each Survivor show, so you can see/remember who was on each show:

Survivor 1, Pulau Tiga
Survivor 2, Australia
Survivor 3: Africa
Survivor 4, Marquesas
Survivor 5, Thailand
Survivor 6, The Amazon

Luvmom

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmmm.....

Picking 2 from the 1st and 2nd survivor is hard because I loved them all.The others are easy.If no past winners are going to be in it,I'd say:

S1: Greg & Jenna
S2: Jeff & Colby(Sorry couldn't pick a guy/girl here)
S3: Lex & Mama Kim
S4:Kathy & Rob
S5:Helen & Shi Ann(To Make Up for the 2 Guys)
S6:Christy & Rob

Essence

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Going with no winners or #2s my picks would be:

S1: Gretchen & Joel
S2: Alicia & Mike
S3: Teresa & Lex
S4: Tammy & Rob
S5: Shii Ann & Ted
S6: ??? & Rob (This one was tough, I didn't particularly like any of the women from this past season. Going on strength maybe Jeanne, Joanna, or Deena.)

Seamonkey

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like Who's bunch, tho I'd like to see Shii-Ann in there.

I'd also be interested in all the first bootees together.. because some never had a chance to show us who they were, and it would be interesting to see if they could actually change the tactics or lack thereof that got them booted in their seasons. and to fill to 16, include those who got sick and booted (Tanya!!)

(I think I heard something about Millionaire bringing back those who left with $0.)

I would NOT include anyone who has made a movie, appeared in Playboy or other such mags, sued anyone, write columns or gotten hosting gigs.

Lyn

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thursday
CBS will stay pat with Survivor, CSI and Without a Trace, the first-year drama that made some inroads against ER last season. And in a bold move, the network has decided to schedule Survivor's much-anticipated all-star edition in the Spring — pitting it against the final months of Friends

BACK IN THE GAME: The highly anticipated reunion between Survivor buddies Richard Hatch and Rudy Boesch is finally happening. CBS confirmed at its fall presentation Wednesday that the long-rumored all-star edition of Survivor will air next spring. In addition to Hatch and Boesch (who has to be, like, 98 by now), other alums competing for the special $2 million purse include Susan Hawk, Tina Wesson, Ethan Zohn and Jerri Manthey. What, no Debb Eaton?

tvguide.com

Beachcomber88

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It doesn't say how many Survivors there will actually be. Will there be the usual sixteen? Or as DJ said, only eight? If so, then Survivor 1 is heavily represented by Richard, Rudy, and Susan. I guess it was the most memorable one, so it only makes sense.

Richard, Tina, and Ethan - so much for the idea that no past winners would be included. I think Richard would be the first to go no matter what. Remember when they had Survivor Weakest Link? I think Richard was voted out right away - simply to get back at him. I am surprised that there is no mention of Colby. Guess we'll have to wait to see who else signs on.

Jerri? AHHHHHH! I can't stand that woman. Perhaps the most annoying Survivor of all time, IMO. She and Evan Joe Millionaire both need to hide under their rocks that they came from.

Essence

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tina, Ethan, Jerri, Susan? Ughhhh! Didn't like any of them. If this is what I have to look forward to, I don't know...

It's not like I won't watch, I am a survivorholic, but I won't like it.

Lurknomore

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I LOVE IT!!!!!! I posted this suggestion during the finale episode and had long thought it was a good idea. I think what will be interesting is to see if old contestestants come in with the same or different strategies. They MUST get Rob onboard!

And Lyn, I take it you didn't see Rudy in the audience at the recent Survivor finale. He looked healthier than I do! lol So far I like all the choices except Jerri and Tina. I hope it ends up being more than 8, as IMHO that won't be enough time to really get any good alliances/plots/strategies going, and this will only be interesting if they play for real and don't just go through the motions.

Should be interesting to watch though...I'm looking foward to it already (and I can't really say that for the next Survivor though I'm sure I'll watch and that will change lol). :)

Lyn

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lurknomore, I quoted the entire post from tvguide.com, that wasn't me saying that. Actually, Rudy was my favourite from the first Survivor


Edited to add: The grand prize this time around is supposed to be $2 million

Happymom

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Beach, in your first post in this thread, you forgot to mention "hard core athlete" Heidi in your group of athletic ones! lol!

This is great news! I am really looking forward to seeing this all star edition of Survivor, even if the players aren't my favorites. I am going to have to prepare myself for Susan's voice, though.

I wonder if the format will be the same, tribes or every person for themselves? I agree with you Beach, Richard's head is on the chopping block from the get go!

(Geez, I hope we don't have to see as much of Richard as we did before!)

Lurknomore

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ohhhhh sorry Lyn (I just assumed that the brackets were your own personal touch...My Bad). I liked the old buzzard too :) I like folks that keep me entertained not just annoyed.

And I'm not so sure Happy...I can see him and his old buddy Rudy joining up with Rob to keep their fannies in till the end. I just think it will be interesting to see how the final weeding and wheeling will go. And at least there seems to be less of Richard to blur out this time LOL, still a remaining scary thought nonetheless hehe.

Tashakinz

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
From Reality News Online (David Bloomberg):

Yesterday, CBS announced their new Fall lineup. Two things were of interest to reality TV fans. First, Survivor: Panama is the only reality TV show on the schedule (though Star Search may return for a limited run in place of whatever other shows end up being canceled). But more importantly, CBS also announced that Survivor 8 would be an all-star edition, by popular demand.

Rich, Rudy, Susan, Tina, and Ethan - all people who only need their first names given for Survivor fans - joined Mark Burnett on-stage as he made the announcement. All but Susan had been there for the live Survivor: The Amazon finale on Sunday. However, it is unclear at this time if any or all of them will actually be on the all-star edition.

The Associated Press reported that the show will be "bringing back past players like Richard Hatch, Rudy Boesch, Tina Wesson, Ethan Zohn and Jerri Manthey." But whether that's players like them or those actual players is unclear. Zap2it.com said, "Burnett did give a final list of returning contestants, but said that the stakes would be raised for the all-star event." However, the context of the statement looks like it was a typo and that they really meant Burnett did not give a final list (if he had given one, it seems logical that they would have provided it in the article).

The Chairman of CBS has promised a prize of two million dollars, certainly enough to entice many of the former players back out for 39 more days.

Most fans seem to have assumed in past discussions that whenever an all-star edition would eventually come around, former winners like Rich, Tina, and Ethan would not be included. However, by bringing them on-stage, Burnett seems to have indicated that would not be the case. It will be interesting to see if other contestants will immediately band together to eliminate such winners as being potentially too dangerous.

Because of this announcement, and the parallel announcement that casting for Survivor: Panama is already complete, fans who have been trying to get on the show can probably forget about applying for a while, despite information on applying that was mentioned in the Survivor: The Amazon reunion after the finale.

As of now, this is all the information we have on the all-star edition. We will update readers when we find out more.

(End of Article)

Well...this definitely makes it sound like the cast hasn't been picked yet. $2 million is a nice prize....

Happymom

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh yes Lurk, you are right! I'm sure Rudy and Rich would team up.

The more I think about it, the more I can't wait to see this show! Too bad it's so far in the future.

Knightpatti

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tina has always said in the past that she would not do Survivor again. I wonder if she has changed her mind?

Crazydog

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 8:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I know some of them have supposedly been picked, but if I were to pick 16, here's who I'd pick:

Pulau Tiga: Joel, Gretchen, Colleen
Australia: Alicia, Kimmy, Jeff Varner
Africa: Jessie, Brandon, Clarence
Marquesas: Hunter, Sarah
Thailand: John, Shii Ann, Ken
Amazon: Dave, Butch

I left out a lot of the ones who probably would be good players but I found annoying. Unfortunately, that's quite a number of them.

I wonder how actions on past Survivors will affect voting strategies. For example, I don't think Ethan would be able to use the under-the-radar strategy again. Or some of the schemers wouldn't be trusted again.

Lyn

Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This time, there's no way Rudy will let go of that pole :)

Gidget

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great thread.

I wonder how many of the alumni would actually be willing to do this again. 6 seasons equal 96 possible participants.

Some of those people really suffered physically, far more than they expected and would thus be out.

Some of them have "show" business careers and agents so I'm thinking they would want some decent guaranteed bucks. I think the loser bracket payout is very good on this show but past survivors, especially the stars are not likely to be satisfied with $30 or $40K.

Then there are those who probably decided fame is not what it is cracked up to be. I talked about once before being a celebrity in a finite situation and it got really old fast having people stare at me and walk up and talk to me as if they knew me and had that right.

Anyway, my long winded point is I wonder how many of them would even give it another go.

Sherbabe

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Can't see how this will play out. They all know each other now, see each other at social gatherings. They could plot ahead of time. Will the winners bow to the runner up, or to the people who took the hit for them in their own series. Not sure about this.

Auntiemike

Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I suggest that they chose the first two voted off from each Survivor as they hardly had a chance to play. Who knows how their personalities would mesh (or not) this time. I'll bet we could find some to love/hate out of that group.