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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 7:13 pm
This is from a poll at MSNBC: Live Vote Who will be the viewers' choice and win the second million? * 132578 responses Alicia 1% Amber 1% Colby 3% Ethan 1% Jenna L. 1% Jenna M. 1% Jerri 0% Kathy 1% Lex 1% Richard 1% Rob C. 1% Rob M. 8% Rudy 4% Rupert 75% Shii Ann 1% Susan 0% Tina 0% Tom 2% Not a scientifically valid survey.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 7:37 pm
Don't worry about Boston Rob. He is going to get half of Amber's million, besides a brand new car. LOL My vote goes to Rupert. I don't care who deserves it. I am voting for who I want to get it.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 8:08 pm
I think that I mentioned before that as a fan of the show, my criteria for voting is based partly on who played the best game and mostly on who provided the best entertainment value. After all, without the entertainment value, the show wouldn’t exist and we wouldn’t have all this fun talking about it. Who played the best game? That’s fairly obvious to me – Amber. She’s attractive and much smarter and together than most people (including most of the other players) have given her credit for. Having said that, in my opinion she was not the most entertaining. Therefore, it’s a toss-up for me between Rob and Rupert as the two people who really made the show entertaining. However, part of me can’t help but feel that I’m being manipulated by CBS and following the herd in voting for Rupert (not at all fair to Rupert, I know).
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 8:56 pm
Well, I might just have to jump on the manipulation bandwagon. Tonight during Judging Amy they showed a commercial for Thursday's Survivor. Just as it said something like "You decide who you want to give the million dollars to" up flashes a picture of Rupert grinning. Not quite subliminal, but funny, considering the conspiracy theories. 
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 9:25 pm
Thread title changed to more accurately reflect the intent of the poll. As indicated, Jeff did indeed say Sunday night to vote for any reason you wish.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 9:32 pm
back to being a poster---I am enjoying the various reasons people voted for the people they said. It's clear Survivor brings out many sides of people--many different priorities and perspectives. Maybe this is one of the reasons it does so well as a show.
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Hamsterlady
Member
07-03-2003
| Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 10:00 pm
Thank you Lancecrossfire! Go Rupert, Rudy, or Colby!
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Tobor7
Member
07-19-2002
| Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 10:06 pm
They should have added one more choice. Give the million to charity.
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Kaili
Member
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 5:53 am
Realize that there are tons of people out there voting based on who's most attractive and other reasons. People vote in presidential elections based on looks alone (no kidding)- why wouldn't they do it on an internet vote? Vote how you wnat- they have no control of how phone/internet calls are made anyway. They have no control over 10 years olds voting. They have no control over how many times you vote (and they sure don't seem to care to). I see nothing wrong with voting for the person you simply like the best. but that's just me. Everyone has different reasoning (what they want to do with it, financial need, game play, entertainment value...) Now can you all imagine though if CBS said it was $1.00 a call or something? Basically if they had the callers paying for the million?
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Hootyhoot
Member
12-18-2001
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 6:35 am
Doesn't Rob already get $250,000? And Jenna something like $150,000? I wish I had the figures for all of them ... anyone know? My vote goes to Rupert ... mostly because I loved him for wearing a skirt!
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 7:37 am
I'm not advocating this, but for those who are interested, the "give the million to charity" choice is Ethan.
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Maryk
Member
01-30-2001
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 8:38 am
Not recommending this, but people have started writing bots that will continuously vote for someone every second. I was able to view the source and it does work - ramification is that if CBS doesn't limit the votes to one per IP address or something similar, I think the winner will be decided by who has to most running bots.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 8:57 am
When will these networks ever learn?! Or is it that they really don't care. 
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 9:23 am
I don't get why they are doing this... what is the reason and why does the network want Rupert to have amillion bucks....? I must have missed something, but after all there must be more deserving people in the world. What is the deal with this. I liked Rupert, he played the game like everyone, had two shots and missed. There is something I'm missing here.... help!
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Cassie
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 9:32 am
I think they have a free spot on Thursday night, Dahli, and want the ratings!
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 9:32 am
Amen, Dahli - I don't like this giveaway they're doing. It makes no sense; the others won their money fair and square and all of them have the benefit of newly opened doors and income-earning potential related thereto. The whole thing just smacks of pandering to sweeps - sure, it would be nice for Rudy or Rupert to have a million bucks, so give it to them and don't have a show about it. I'm not voting, and I won't be watching either.
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Demeter
Member
08-05-2001
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 9:35 am
I think this thing about "wanting to give Rupert a million" is probably only remoting related to what cbs is doing. I think that this was the All Stars show. The producers have known for years that fans of the show would like to participate in some manner. They just wanted to include a "surprise" and make it big. Which it is. I don't see them pushing in one way or another for Rupert. If that were the case, his name would be on the top of the list. Anyone notice that this poll is alphabetical but the polls for best villian, sexiest, etc., have no clear rationale as to how each person is listed? Besides, the bottom line is that the production is there to not only provide entertainment, but to make money. You can bet they will have a good audience showing on Thursday.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 9:51 am
Demeter I think some of us feel they slanted it towards favoring Rupert for several reasons. They are well aware of his massive popularity online, and they made this primarily an online vote. Second, the original question on the CBS web site said, "Who do you think DESERVED to win the million." The next day that was mysteriously changed to "Who do you want to win." Quite a different question. Personally I think the concept of involving the viewers was great, but miserably executed. First they announced it with about 2 seconds left, gave no real parameters for voting, and let us loose lol. In the game folks at least have a reason why they vote. We were left to choose whether we wanted to base it purely on game play, on popularity, on charity, on you name it. In the Rob chat yesterday one person in my room said they read on a board (dunno which one) that Jerri hired 200 folks to vote 24/7. LOL maybe that's why she rushed out. Now I didn't really buy it BUT I did comment, and have here, that you can be sure any of the Survivors up for the mil will have all their relatives and friends voting up a storm. And for that much $$$ it wouldn't really shock me if some hired some help. As for a bot, wouldn't it need to be written with the votes cast, so if that's the case who was it written for (I forget who saw it). As I feel with Idol it should be one person, one vote...but no one seems to agree with me lol. But we'll all watch. If anyone but Rupert gets it everyone will then scream foul. Truthfully I'm bored with the whole thing. I think the entire All Star season could have been done much better, from beginning to end and this is a letdown JMHO.
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:00 am
I appreciate the answers, I now have a better understanding of what's going on and will likely find something else to do that evening as well 
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:03 am
Agreed, I've said from the beginning that this is nothing but a rupertfest. I'm not anti-Rupert, but I hate feeling manipulated and I hate other people telling me who I should root for. From his many media opportunities to them giving him all the time and the roar crap, I feel like this is pure manipulation. The guy had two times to try to win the cash and didn't play well enough either time. If Rupert does not win, these rabid people will make claygate look like kindergarten stuff.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:08 am
CBS has a tiny problem. While people love the show and watch in huge numbers, a large percentage of the audience is usually unhappy with the eventual winner. You see, many in the audience refuse to accept the idea that it is a game and not real life and the characteristics needed to win the game are usually not the characteristics that gain approval in real life (though sadly they may in reality be similar). Also, many viewers don’t seem to understand that they need to have a variety of personalities on the show to keep it interesting. People complain the show is boring now but if everyone was absolutely up front and stuck to their word, it would probably be really dull. You’d practically know who is going to win (other than the immunity challenges). So to make the audience happy they came up with the idea of an audience vote. ARGH.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:15 am
Jimmer, I think that for many (including myself) a fact you mentioned is what bothers so many people. The behaviors that are so negative that get people so far in Survivor are the same behaviors that so many times get people ahead in real life. In scripted movies the good guys win much more often than the bad guys. A lot of people go to watch those movies because they are tired of the "bad" behaviors being rewarded. I'm not saying it's right to have folks want a good guy to win--any more than it's right to want the bad guy to win (based on the way they play the game). We each have our perspectives--and as you say, having all one type on the show doesn't entertain all of us.
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Guinevere
Member
03-15-2001
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 11:51 am
I totally agree with Ladytex's post. The manipulation is what bugs me. I dislike Rupert somewhat - I feel that he's shown a lot of negative character traits in the two seasons he's participated in. But honestly, my dislike is increased about tenfold by the adulation he gets, and by how it's shoved down my throat constantly that I MUST LOVE RUPERT! Because he's so LOVABLE! Don't you just LOVE HIM! Gah. I, for one, am mystified by what makes him so special. I realize there is only a miniscule chance that Rupert will not be awarded the $1M on Thursday. I don't like it, but I've lived with Jenna M winning Survivor, Flo winning TAR, Will winning BB - I guess I'll survive. I personally voted Boston Rob, on the basis that I think he deserves it the most. If I was voting on who I liked best, I probably would've voted for Shi Ann. Otherwise, I might've voted for Jenna, both for her third place finish and because I think she could probably use the money. But I haven't bothered to vote that many times (less than 20), and I didn't see the point in splitting my piddling number of votes, just in case Rob does have a chance. If, by some miracle, Rupert does not win Thursday night, I swear I will have schaudefraude leaking out of every pore. I suppose that says something about me, but I can live with that.
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Makays
Member
07-12-2001
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 12:25 pm
I come here quite often. I usually just read and never post. But this subject has me hitting the post message. This subject seems to of hit a nerve with quite a few. Vote for who you want to have the million I say. Everyone's entitled to have their favorite for whatever reason. I have searched and found nothing telling me I should vote for Rupert. I'm still trying to figure out how this is slanted towards him? There have been a few references to the vote on AI. What I would like to know is why AI/Clay got brought up? Just thought I would ask as this is a Survivor board. Lastly, I hope this is the last All-Star Survivor. Too many reasons to list but I think its more interesting to have a bunch of people who know nothing about each other try and survive.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 12:29 pm
Makays, I think AI and Clay got brought up as a comparison of some type. I am willing to bet that this is the last all-start survivor. From what Jeff has said, I'd be very surprised to see a Survivor that has anything but total strangers.
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