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Sasha
Member
03-06-2004
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 10:05 am
Okay, I am a fan of Rob's. I have been since his first Survivor appearance. Admitting it is the first step ... right???? But honestly this game has been played 6 times and everytime the players state you cannot trust anyone. So really should Lex have reacted in that way. As well, I don't think Lex was doing this to be Rob's buddy but to advance himself in the game. It is not a clear black and white situation. Rob did not invent the backstab. He was desperate and would have said anything to save Amber. I believe 80% of the other players would have done the same thing.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 10:21 am
Lex said on the CBS Early Show today that his shocked look at TC was editing. He said that he and Kathy had talked and he knew that she was going to keep the immunity necklace. He also explained that the difference between his friendship with Rob vs. that of his with Ethan was that he and Rob were extremely close...in fact, that Rob oftentimes came to his house and talked with he and his wife, or even just his wife, about such things as his relationships. It just sounded much more like a very strong bond that they had for a few years, much moreso than with Ethan.
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 11:49 am
Thanks Zules and Hukdon for sharing what Lex said in interviews. I knew about his outside friendship with Kathy but not with Rob. As for him eliminating Richard and Ethan ~ give me a break, folks! Everyone there wanted all previous winners to go first. Lex just happened to have a hand in making it happen. Richard and Ethan both were lucky for remaining there as long as they did. Zules, just glad to know I'm not the only one who can't stand Rob. I have no problem with others liking him and thinking his game is brilliant but I was beginning to feel very alone there last night on this board, lol.
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Justalittlebean
Member
08-15-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 11:50 am
After hearing about his friendship with Rob, I understand why Lex was so upset with Rob backstabbing him. I understand backstabbing is part of the game, but having a real "friend" do that would be kind of hard to handle. I think Rob just lost a true friend.
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Elle
Member
08-29-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:29 pm
boston rob all the way...i'm glad to see lex gone. i could hardly believe it when lex said, on the early show, that he was no longer friends w/rob off the show. it's a GAME lex. sore loser... when richard hatch got voted out he said he'd been bamboozold - he went away w/a smile. he didn't take it personally. he was playing the game. i realize that he had already won once but he still remembered it was a game. i really wonder what lex wouild have done if the tables were turned? he had no problem voting out ethan..
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Zules
Member
08-21-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:00 pm
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not a Lex fan either. In fact, I think he could be the biggest dope in Survivor history for believing Rob. You're right, Elle, he did the same thing to Ethan and this was just a very bitter taste of his own medicine. Too bad. I think you can only excuse so much rotten behavior by saying that it's a game. We all know that but sheesh, does that mean you can be a total scoundrel and still expect everyone to love you at the end? If the rest of them are to be realistic and expect to get "backstabbed", then those doing the "backstabbing" should expect that there may be consequences for their behavior, even outside the game. Whew! Thanks, Kappy - I thought I was all alone out here!
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Resortgirl
Member
09-23-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:03 pm
I think the difference in Lex voting out Ethan is that he hadn't made a promise to Ethan before hand. Rob did promise to "take care of Lex" if he could help keep Amber. And the fact that they were "friends" would mean to me anyway, that Rob was asking Lex as a personal favor... friend to friend. And Lex did it because he DID consider Rob a good friend (if he had asked Shiian or Kathy it would be different) I think Lex had every right to be shocked and hurt by Robs actions. Rob can't win this game now... no one will vote for him. He is not going to be the "lesser of two evils" no matter WHO he is up against. as always... jmo
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:24 pm
^5's BIG TIME rg! i think you said it perfectly! i couldn't have said it better!
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Zules
Member
08-21-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:31 pm
RG, I remember Ethan saying somewhere (wish I could remember where!) that Lex did promise him and that was why he was so hurt by it. He said it didn't make it onto the show but it happened. I hope you're right about no one voting for Rob. However, nothing they do will surprise me.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:47 pm
One thing we havent considered yet. Kathy WITNESSED the Lex & Rob interaction after that Competition which Rob asked Lex to try and take care of Amber. Kathy talked to Lex about it on the next episode. ** Kathy then talked with Shi ann and Amber did the 'on one knee' begging deal with Kathy. Amber did NOT go on one knee dealing with Lex. I'll suggest that Rob had a little talk with Amber when she got back and Amber told him about the deal with Kathy....NOT Lex. Yes, Kathy wanted Lex included but I really dont remember anything SOLID being guaranteed. ** Someone said earlier that they felt Amber threw the comp and let Kathy win. I agree. If Amber and ROB were the holders of immunity the TARGETS would be even bigger on their backs. In Rob's case he HAD to win the comp (over Lex) in order to be able to vote Lex out. FINALLY a decent episode that was actually exciting to watch....this season needs MORE excitement. :-)
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Donut
Member
07-31-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:53 pm
hukdonreality, did you actually hear lex talk about his friendship with Ethan? I just heard him say that he was friends with Rob, but if he mentioned ethan than hubby and i both missed it, and we were glued on to it looking to hear what was said about ethan. We were really mad that no one brought it up. Cuz Lex kept saying things like its NOT just a game, where friends are concerned to justify his broken friendship with Rob, yet these things were all exactly the OPPOSITE of what he said to Ethan, when he told Ethan that it WAS just a game and just business and had nothing to do with outside friendship. It was so hypocritical and I can't believe no one played that clip on the morning show and confronted him with what he said to Ethan as opposed to what he now says about Rob... And I don't think that he had more of a relationship with Rob, unless he did actually say that and i was deaf. He knew ethan way before rob and they were on survivor together so i would imagine that he was actually closer to ethan... ok, venting over for now...
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 2:03 pm
Kappy...you can add me to the 'not impressed with Rob' camp. Hope neither he nor Amber wins this.
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Resortgirl
Member
09-23-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 2:07 pm
Thanks Landi! Zules, I guess I'm not familiar with that story between Ethan and Lex. I know they were friends and I have to say... I would NOT want to be in a game like Survivor with a bunch of my friends. Just the nature of the game would make it so difficult to play it without hurt feelings. IF in fact Lex made some kind of promise to Ethan, then Ethan would have a right to be hurt or angry. But I don't think it was a two sided promise as in... you do this for me and I'll do that for you... it may have been more like, "you're my buddy and I have you back" In my opinion, that's different... It's so much easier to explain myself when I'm speaking to someone rather then typing....LOL! Hope that made sense!!
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 2:12 pm
Donut I didn't hear Lex mention Ethan this morning either, but then again I was busy eating a, well, um, a doughnut. Don't be mad at me, I put it out of it's misery. It was all squished and smushed and feeling left out because nobody else would eat it. 
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 2:21 pm
i know i feel for those that come off the line at krispy kreme too! the poor things! they're just miserable being all hot and gooey like that. they're just hoping someone will put them out of their misery hehehehehehe
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Lorie
Member
08-29-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 2:22 pm
I didn't hear anything mentioned about Ethan this morning either. And I was paying attention because I wanted someone to call him on it. I was hoping one of the callers would bring it up but it seems they were all Lex fans.
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Resortgirl
Member
09-23-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 2:23 pm
I've never had a Krispy Creme! Wahhhhh!!! Ya'll are making me hungry though!!
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Lorie
Member
08-29-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 2:27 pm
And speaking of donuts, I was at Dunkin donuts the other day and they were pulling the donut racks off the shelves and dumping the donuts in the trash. Right in front of me!!!!!!! I wanted to crawl into the trash can and pull them all back out!! It was just so wrong!!!!! Actually I thought, why not give them to a school or someplace that could use them. I guess I could have asked them.......
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Sasha
Member
03-06-2004
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 2:39 pm
Yeh, Lorie they do that with the Tim Horton's donuts up here as well. It actually makes me feel like a member of a wasteful society.
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Wendo
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 3:29 pm
Resortgirl, if you can, have a Krispy Creme, they're the best. Re: Last night's Survivor I do agree that Lex was foolish enough to believe Rob. He is responisible for being voted out because of the decisions he made. (You know, if they had kept Jerri one has to wonder if they could've gotten Rupert or Jenna on their side since they were on Saboga first.) However, Rob can scream from the high heavens that he didn't promise Lex anything, but he'd be lying and he knows it. He said to Lex, you protect her, I'll protect you. He didn't say, I'll "do what I can." I have to say, I just don't see the appeal of a player like Rob. I find him classless and uncouth. I won't disagree that he is playing a good final 2 game, but he's playing a terrible win the million dollar game. For instance, there's no way he will get Lex's vote. Not at all. He has deals with everyone so those not with him should he make final two will feel betrayed. Betrayed people have a tough time voting to give you money. In fact, that's where Amber is playing better. Rob's making all the deals for her and those he's making deals with don't realize they're making them with Amber too. I don't know, perhaps the others will wake up and smell the coffee. Though, based on last nights previews it doesn't seem to be the case since Kathy focuses her attention on Jenna. You know Rob's gonna love that, a stirred pot that he doesn't have to stir. One other thing, the women now have a numbers advantage over the men. They could easily pick them off if they wanted to. *shrug*
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Resortgirl
Member
09-23-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 3:47 pm
Yay wendo!!!!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 3:49 pm
Tim Horton's rules. The only problem is they can't figure out how to make their coffee inside the US. Go to Canada the coffee is unbelievably good. Get it in a US store, right accross the border - it tastes icky! I have yet to figure this one out. And - Tim Bits rule - luckily on both sides of the border! Glazed sour cream Tim Bits - YUM!!!!
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 4:07 pm
Gina...it's gotta be the pristine pure Canadian water....lol ;) Oh yeah....Tim Horton's doughnuts RULE!!!
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 4:43 pm
Hi Donut and others! I looked over my posting from earlier, and you're right...I don't believe that Lex actually said anything about Ethan at all this morning. Maybe I was channelling (however you spell that!) what I thought that he was thinking. I apologize profusely for my assumptions! I hope this isn't a double posting. I replied earlier but I think it went into outerspace.

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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 5:03 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/08/earlyshow/series/survivor/main611025.shtml The CBS website has a pretty good overview of Lex's interview this morning. Nope, he didn't say anything about Ethan. As my punishment, I am going to eat a whole dozen donuts...my favorites are Dunkin Donuts, and what a coincidence, they are only 2 blocks away!
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