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Moderator
| Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 9:24 am
Let's start this again
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Faerygdds
| Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 9:34 am
All I have to say is... is it February yet???
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Catfat
| Monday, December 22, 2003 - 6:49 pm
Okay, I think I am getting the hang of this. This is the thread where we post the "Tonight's Show and Spoilers" discussion, Right?
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Seamonkey
| Monday, December 22, 2003 - 7:32 pm
No, those will be sister threads to this one, under General Discussions.. I think 
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Moderator
| Monday, December 22, 2003 - 10:20 pm
This is the correct "area" (i.e. General Discussions), but not this thread. You'll get it, Catfat! This is the identical setup we have had for the last two seasons of Survivor and the last season of The Amazing Race. Nothing has changed, you are just seeing it way before the show starts, so most people posting here now are the detectives. <il>
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Catfat
| Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 3:09 pm
(Big heavy sigh) Catfat crawls away and hibernates for a month.
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Pannie
| Monday, December 29, 2003 - 7:16 pm
I am looking foward to Survivor too. I wonder, though, if the all-stars will be as fresh and authentic as newbies. I wonder if some of the oldies will be haming it up just for the cameras? Or will have contrived pre-show alliances? What do you think?
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Naja
| Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 3:03 pm
Hi everyone, I want to fully enjoy All Stars, but I never got to see all but the last 2 episodes of season 1 and don't know those players well. Can anyone tell me if that DVD that is out for Season 1 is just a "Highlights" and unseen footage DVD or the full season? The description of it where it is being sold is very vague..It says "Featuring never before seen footage". Thank you.
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Cba79
| Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 8:04 am
Naja -- that DVD is just highlights. I beleive there was another highlight DVD released for Season 2 as well. I used to own the first one, and it was mainly quick recaps and fluff. The "never before seen footage" was (for the most part) nothing to get too excited about.
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Naja
| Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 9:19 am
Thanks Cba, You saved me 20 bucks
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Naja
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 8:25 am
Well isn't this interesting. Everywhere I read so far for this pre-season, it was almost set in stone that Jonny Fairplay would be on A-S-S, yet this morning on the CBS Early Show when they announced the contestants, there was no mention of him. I liked his little weasel ways, they made for good entertainment 
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Shelb724
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 4:05 pm
Naja, lets just say that Sue Hawk was absolutely hysterical in S-1. she probably should have won, but got outweaseled by richard (that's another line from the show, out-this, out that, outweasel ).
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Hippyt
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 5:21 pm
You know what's gonna be fun about this season? Instead of having to learn all the new personalities and get warmed up to them,we already know them. Viewers are all going into this one with their favs,and of course their own personal villians. Should be a fun time for the mods!
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Realfan
| Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 12:03 pm
Why O Why did they recast Amber from S.2?? She was one of the blandest blandy that ever did bland contestants ever!
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Maris
| Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 2:37 pm
and they all know who the players are too and how they operate. It will be fun to see how the players adjust.
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Sunshyne4u
| Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 6:15 pm
This could be a VERY interesting mix of personalities!! Wonder who is going to have an alliance with whom!! ** I have my favourites from other seasons in the ALLSTARs.....however am I going to choose whom I want to WIN?? ha ha Looking forward to all the usual discussion threads here...always fun times
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Bastable
| Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 11:04 pm
I think the tribes are posted. I got this from the polls page (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor8/polls/index.shtml#) of the CBS site. Above this picture is the following legend: Red is Chapera Yellow is Saboga Green is Moga Moga
...of course, it could be a fake out. CBS is tricksy.
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Pagal
| Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 6:22 am
I can't remember the exact wording and I've already deleted the recording but, on the Early Show they mentioned the selection process for A.S.S. - they said every past contestant was asked to come back. Some said "NO" flatout and then there were some logistical problems. The final 18 were selected from those who said "YES" and had no other commitments. I hope I got that right. Can anyone else help me here?
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Essence
| Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 6:59 am
That sounds about right to me Pagal. It also sounded as though some were chosen for their flare for drama.
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Meli456
| Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 12:06 pm
Too bad Silas didn't show up on ASS. Anyone know what he's up to now? Wonder if the acting/modeling thing ever worked out for him.
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Maris
| Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 5:13 pm
Does anyone know how this is going to work with three teams? Will there still be only one team going to tribal council or will the two losing teams go to tribl council? Does anyone have any ideas on what the game set up is going to be other than the three teams? Not looking for spoiling information just curious about how they might do this? Anyone have ideas? I see three teams competing for immunity. One team wins immunity. I cant see the remaining two teams going to tribal council because it would be equal amounts of votes since each team would vote out the other. I am thinking that the remaining two teams then duke it out. The only problem I see with this is that it will cut down significantly on what they will be able to show on tv in the one hour time slot, so much time will be spent on the immunity competitions.
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Pamy
| Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:58 pm
I think if I answer I would be breaking the no spoiling rule here
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Kellirippa
| Friday, January 16, 2004 - 11:39 am
Since this is an all stars edition, is it going to run as long as the regular ones do??
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Colordeagua
| Friday, January 16, 2004 - 1:59 pm
Hi all, I joined TVCH few months ago because of Starting Over. I do watch Survivor so ocassionally would visit Survivor boards on TVCH. I am person who does NOT want spoilage. I could be wrong, but I'm almost willing to swear when I went on a non-spoilage board during the previous Survivor I saw that Sandra.... That sure spoiled it for me. Does anyone else maybe remember that? Or am I probably wrong. I won't be visiting boards during any future Survivors.
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Tiffert
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 10:54 pm
Oh, man I can't wait til the 1st! Is the LA area party still happening? Tiff
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Immikeswfe
| Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 12:20 pm
Q1: Chapera Q2: Saboga Q3: Amber Q4: Ethan Q5: Richard Bonus B1: C B2: A B3: Yes
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Kitt
| Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 4:49 pm
My tv guide now stretches past February 1st, but make no mention of Survivor All Stars! Episodes of Cold Case and CSI are on instead. I have no doubt it'll change closer the time but I'm getting frustrated, I want to plan my day!
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Jagger
| Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 11:57 am
Kitt Survivor will be on right after the Super Bowl, so the time may vary depending on how long the game lasts and how much post game stuff they show. My guess the show will start around 10/9 central or maybe a little later.
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Zgoodgirl
| Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 1:41 pm
My Guide on Excite shows Survivor on at 9pm Central time. And for those who aren't planning on watching the Super Bowl 'cause their team isn't playing, they are having a Surreal Life Marathon and Queer Eye Marathon on the other stations.
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Kitt
| Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 1:13 pm
Directv guide still doesn't mention it. Very strange. I guess in a day or two it'll show the Thursday episode and I can set my season pass with that.
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Kitt
| Monday, January 26, 2004 - 5:32 pm
Survivor will be on at 7pm (or later if the game runs long) on the West Coast!! Looks like we'll get it at he same (real) time as the East coast for once!
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Hippyt
Member
09-14-2002
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 1:29 pm
Aren't these cute?
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Indigospy
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 4:09 pm
The Fantasy Leagues are open on CBS. If anybody wants to join me, I have started a private tribe named Skulls Nest. The password is tvch.

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Maris
Member
03-27-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 4:59 pm
Huge challenges for 'Survivor: All-Stars' And the biggest challenge of all may be Jeff Probst Friday, January 30, 2004 Posted: 11:06 AM EST (1606 GMT) NEW YORK (AP) -- How will "Survivor: All-Stars" differ from bygone "Survivor" series? Just ask Jeff Probst, host of this CBS back-to-nature game show, who got a clue early on. "We were waiting to start the first challenge," he recalls, "and one of the castaways says, 'Hey, Probst! Production slowing us up?' " Instantly he knew what he was dealing with. "This group of castaways has been on 'Oprah' and 'Regis.' They're TV-savvy -- or think they are." Add in the fact that these recycled contestants are familiar with each other -- and that the audience probably knows them better than most presidential candidates -- and this "Survivor" looks to be a whole new game. (It premieres Sunday after the Super Bowl telecast on CBS, then claims a regular time slot at 8 p.m. EST Thursdays.) In its first seven editions, "Survivor" made history by turning unknown contestants into celebrity adventurers. Thrust into the wilds -- maybe the Australian outback or a tropical isle -- each band of castaways battled the elements and one another vying for the $1 million prize as "sole survivor." The original "Survivor" was a cultural phenomenon, seizing the public's attention during the summer of 2000 and, with its finale that August, grabbing 51 million viewers -- a huge 45 percent share of everyone watching TV. Returning every few months, each subsequent edition has been a big attraction. Meanwhile, "Survivor" has continued to make instant personalities of many of the castaways: cranky Rudy Boesch; Colby Donaldson, the All-American hunk; "dragon lady" Shii Ann Huang; diabolical Richard Hatch; and tough Sue Hawk. For Probst, whose "Survivor" duties include referee, inquisitor and provocateur, these "All-Stars" contestants presented some new wrinkles, he explained during a chat with a reporter in New York. Originating from the same setting off the Panama coast as "Survivor: Pearl Islands" (whose finale aired December 14), "All-Stars" was introducing no novices who, at least initially, "are easy to manage and to strike fear into," Probst says with a chuckle. "This bunch arrived confident that they had anticipated every twist we were going to come up with." Even before the 39-day contest got under way in November, they had put Probst on notice: They would be guarding against his interrogations at the "tribal councils," those torch-lit encounter sessions where players often speak more freely than they should -- right before ballots are cast voting one of them off. "One by one, they e-mailed me or called before we got out there and said, 'I just want to let you know: I'm not gonna give you anything good at tribal council.' "I went into the game thinking, 'How am I gonna get good stuff out of these guys?' And it turned out I got the best stuff I've ever gotten." 'He's a prober, not simply a presenter' Among the "Survivor: All-Stars": (clockwise from top left) Rudy Boesch, Jenna Lewis, Ethan Zohn, Tina Wesson, Rupert Boneham and Jerri Manthey. Probst's counterstrategy: Use their confidence against them or, in his words, "Just ride the horse in the direction it's going. If these people believe they're running the show, let 'em keep thinking it." Bottom line: Probst might be the most skillful "Survivor" player of all. With a canny understanding of his castaways and dimples you could make camp in, Probst, now 41, debuted with "Survivor" four years ago after serving as host of several shows for the FX network, as well as on the VH1 game show "Rock and Roll Jeopardy." But these are credits that don't suggest his skill as a combination Mr. Roarke and Dr. Phil. "Probst is aptly named: On 'Survivor,' he's a prober, not simply a presenter," says Neal Gabler, a cultural critic who wrote "Life the Movie: How Entertainment Conquered Reality." "There's not only tension between the participants in the game," Gabler says, "but also between them and the game, and Probst is the embodiment of that. It's not enough that the contestants are pitted against one another, and against Nature -- they're also up against forces represented by Jeff." Indeed, Probst represents the force that even supersedes nature: television. Without it there would be no "Survivor." No immunity challenges, mock rituals or overwrought catch phrases like "the tribe has spoken." No growing liturgy of different styles for play that range from hard labor to shrewd alliances to Machiavellian backstabbing. Richard Hatch won the first "Survivor" -- and $1 million. No outrageous falsehoods, like that of "Pearl Islands" castaway Jon Dalton, who, to win sympathy, lied about his grandmother's death. "I believed it when he said it," Probst laughs. "I love that stuff! He was really playing the game! "This isn't 'The Bachelor,' or 'Fear Factor,' where people eat something disgusting then get to go home. And it isn't 'The Apprentice,' " he adds, citing the new NBC hit from "Survivor" creator Mark Burnett where contestants compete to land a plum job working for tycoon Donald Trump, who at the end of each episode "fires" one of them. "They've got a great back door: Donald Trump -- i.e., the producers -- decide who goes or stays," Probst observes. "They're guaranteed to keep their best characters." On "Survivor," by contrast, the players make the call with no regard for a castaway's entertainment value. 'Nobody let us down' But that shouldn't be a problem for "All-Stars." "We had 18 proven reality-show participants," Probst says, "and they all delivered. Nobody let us down in terms of drama. "This was the hardest 'Survivor,"' he adds. "In the past, Mark has worried about dehydration, loss of morale. This time, we kicked 'em hard. When they thought it was gonna get better -- it didn't! To their credit, they just fought on." With eight editions of the show behind him, Probst freely admits he never dreamed it would last. Three of the all-stars -- Alicia Caloway, Rob Mariano and Amber Brkich -- talk things over. "I thought you couldn't make it work a second time," he says, "but I knew we'd try, because we'd get the advertisers. And I thought it would die. "Then, after the third one, from Africa -- which never really paid off, in my mind, but people still watched -- I started thinking, 'We really have a structure that's interesting, compelling.' " Steve Sternberg, a media analyst for Interpublic Group's Magna Global USA, agrees. While dozens of so-called "reality shows" have sprung up since "Survivor" rocked the landscape, "it's in a category all by itself," Sternberg says. "It has caught on with people, and it's going to go on and on." And for the next four editions after "All-Stars," Probst is signed to remain part of the game plan. The continuing appeal for him is "Survivor's" storytelling. "I love watching layers of a character peel away, I love watching someone's core revealed," explains Probst, who wrote and directed the 2001 character study "Finder's Fee" and has another feature film in mind. "People sometimes say to me, 'Ah, you're just a game-show host.' Maybe to them. To me, this is part of my ongoing search for truth." Of course, the most sought-after bit of truth among "Survivor" fans now becomes: Who will be the sole survivor of "All-Stars"? The results of the vote won't be revealed to the world -- or even to the players, who submitted their ballots before shooting wrapped in December -- until the series finale weeks from now. And Probst insists he doesn't know. "But I could tell you who won," he says with a grin, "and you wouldn't know if I was telling the truth. I'm so tempted to do that: start dropping clues." link
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