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Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Monday, March 15, 2004 - 7:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
All I was saying was that from what was portrayed on TV of the other tribes people's reactions (ie. Kathy being so angry at Sue for drawing them into her "core of hatred"), I hope the others have watched the show and realized how truly affected Sue was. I hope as a result they've been able to feel a little more compassion for her. Especially Rupert, who works with "troubled teens" and you'd think would be used to dealing with something of this nature. As I said earlier (way up in the post), I think Sue's saying she could sue Hatch and MB was said out of hurt and anger. Haven't we all made grandiose threats under the stress of intense emotion? Who hasn't said, "I could just kill him/her!" at some time? That doesn't mean we would really do it!

And if we can't "judge" these people's actions on a weekly basis, what fun is discussing it all on this board? Just saying . . .

Babyjaxmom
Member

10-20-2002

Monday, March 15, 2004 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
P.S. Readonly, I'm very sorry you had to have that experience at such a young age (or at any age, actually). I've been very fortunate not to ever have been put in that awful position (and then to have your boss basically brush it under the carpet! how horrible!), but I know a lot of people--both male and female--who have been. What a jerk your boss was for excusing your coworker's deplorable behavior (sorry if I'm being too "judgemental").

Readonly
Member

04-16-2003

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, folks. Posting is pretty much new to me (even though I joined a year ago) and I'm kind of tip-toeing my way around. I promise to pop by now and then and add a thought or two.

March
Member

10-02-2003

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 9:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If someone told me that they were going to sue someone for 10 million dollars I would have to say that I would be thinking they were doing it mostly for the money as well. This is what Sue told Rupert. They did show Rupert trying to get Sue to eat. No offense to the male gender here but I have usually found that when male(some, not saying all) cannot associate with a problem that a female is having but wants to help they try to help in whatever way they know how. For Rupert that would be feeding them food, since that is what he tends to be is the provider of food.
I probably haven't explained this as well as I was trying but hopefully you will get the idea.


Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes March, I get what you are saying. :-)

On another note...saying you hope people realize how Sue was affected, presupposes that everyone is on the same page as to how this whole thing DID in fact affect her.

I still maintain it was an act on Sue's part, that she wanted out of the game and also thought there might be some easy money in it for herself.

Ophiliasgrandma
Member

09-04-2001

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I too have a problem with the hard-boiled persona she was proud of showing off and the way she caved from Richars tasteless act. I'd have yelled at him to put his winky dink back into a pair of trousers where it belonged. Whadda doofus!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ophilia, I am right there with you. She is so outspoken, I just don't get why she didn't yell at him to knock it off. Especially how offensive it would have been to her, I can not understand why she just didn't tell him off right then and there.

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 12:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
When I was a very young, very naive teenager, I was groped at a swimming pool by an older man of another race. It was so shocking and horrible to me it took me many, many years before I could tolerate even being in the same room as any man of that race. Afterward, for years, I wouldn't go to public swimming pools, I still can't wear revealing clothes. I remember wrapping up in long, dark clothes to hide my shame.
Given those memories, I am wondering about Sue's reaction. She never even tried to cover herself up. She lay out nearly nude on the beach for days. Most (not all) women when sexually molested will wrap and cover themselves up. Maybe Sue is different. Her rage was very apparent, but I didn't get a sense of humiliation, even though she said repeatedly that she was humiliated. Just commenting, not passing judgement.

Queenfish
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07-24-2002

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 6:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Catfat,,, I saw right the opposite. I saw the look on her face while she was spewing out her anger and the look on her face while the boat was taking her away. That look was the same look my best friend had when she finally, after years of represion, faced the sexuall abuse that two family members put upon her as a child. Sue had that same look, when she was on the early show. I am afraid that this may be much bigger than any one of us may ever know. Sue is a very outspoken individual, who in that instance of realizing what had taken place, almost became childlike. I can't say she did that for money. Just for the simple fact that, I think there is a bigger problem lying underneath that has caused her to be such a dramatic, outspoken person to begin with.

On the other hand, none of us knows anything really, and we can keep analyzing it until doomsday and never figure it out.

Starshine40
Member

07-30-2002

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
QUOTE:"I too have a problem with the hard-boiled persona she was proud of showing off and the way she caved from Richars tasteless act."

In my opinion many people who are really sensitive do put up a harder persona, in order to protect themselves emotionally. It's just a cover for the softer senstive part of them they don't want people to see. It's called protective covering.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My only problem, and this could be with the editing, was that Sue was FINE the morning after. She was joking around, looking for snails, being a productive member. Then another member of her tribe (can't remember who) mentioned "the incident" and THAT'S when Sue started stewing about it. And stewed and stewed and stewed.

Sue is an adult. If she was offended by Richard's wanker hanging out there, she could've (should've) said something. She could've called foul, she could've demanded he put his clothes back on, she could've done something.

But no, after stewing about it, and then saying she was thinking about a lawsuite, well, I began to really disbelieve what I was seeing.

And, for what it's worth, I was molested and groped by much older men. I would be disgusted by Richard, but would not go nonlinear about it. (Particularly since I understand it was such a teeny tiny wanker... she probably got more of his big giant belly on her than his wanker! Gross!)

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with you completely Costacat.

The sequence of events don't add up to someone who was traumatized.

The whole thing played out as opportunism to me, plain and simple.

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
she should have just pushed him off the plank...

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LMAO!!

I think you're right, Tabbyking.

Meemo
Member

08-22-2002

Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i haven't read this whole thread only the above comments but i'm not going to comment on who was right or who was wrong. Just on reality tv in general. from watching reality for a long time, events aren't always shown to us in the order that they occurred. and cbs sensing that sue might threaten lawsuit may have deliberately editted it to look as if she "suddenly" flipped out. you really can't make an assumption just from what was shown. you would of had to have been there to see the events unfold.

Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 2:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good point Meemo...