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Curlyq
Member

07-10-2002

Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for your help, Rupertbear and Seamonkey. I'll have to add that one to my favorites list.

Rvon
Member

12-11-2003

Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 6:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Was something wrong with TV Clubhouse tonight? I have one message from Seamonkey at 4:09PM (Pacific time) and the next one I have is at 6:13PM form Curlyq. What's up? Who got voted off?

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In which thread? I'll check..


it was..


Shii-Ann

(Tom won both reward and immunity, took Rob
and his bro along with his son on reward trip)


Gen
Member

08-22-2003

Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rvon, Shii Ann was voted off. For a full run-down of the program,go here:

Tonight's Show

Donut
Member

07-31-2001

Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 11:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am pretty sure that they know what Rob's up to and I wonder too why they let him and Amber stay, but we see this happen all the time..where no one votes out the power...

I think that they all really believe that they can become the person that rides Rob or Amber to the top and they feel safer that way then messing with the heirarchy.. Jenna figures Amber has her back, Tom figures Rob does, Rupert is afraid of messing with the power and just tries to flow into it, Alicia, Lex and Kathy thought they were in with Rob too. Shi Anne just did her own thing..

As far as the winner.. i don't know how we end up with this discussion about how the big mean ol' liar can't possibly win, because every dam time except for ethan and sandra, (to some extent), its exactly what happens.. like with Jenna getting even Christy's vote.. It started with Rich.. Somehow the producers convince everyone, even Christy, that the meaner and more evil you are, the 'harder' you played the game and outwitted and outlast, and outplayed and they always get brainwashed like good robots to vote that way...

gotta say tho, its more complex now that outside friendships are involved...Since those jury members just don't seem to get that rob didn't do anything that they didn't do as well.. lex, cough, cough....they are acting permanently po'd... but then again i think its all set up to make it look like he can't win, and they will all hug in the end and say it was just a game and that Rob played best...

Donut
Member

07-31-2001

Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 11:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
oh,yeah, i forgot one thing..(as if i didn't already talk too much!)

i also think people stick with rob because they actually like him.. For all the presentation of him as evil, it seems by watching subtle interactions, and the unexpected compliments of the 'let's rip apart our survivor comrades" game, that he received, that he's actually the most liked.. And apparently he has a big group of long time survivor friends that he has collected over the years to prove it..

who else would have liked a whole show tonite of just listening to and trying to decipher those 4 guys talking with their accents all nite? Shi Anne's major accomplishment was to get a network to choose to show her shtick over 4 guys with wacky accents, drunk and trying to understand each other...btw tonite the local bahstan station featured a rob story, teasing that he could be out tonite..musta been a slow news nite..


Brenda1966
Member

07-03-2002

Friday, April 30, 2004 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Donut, that the players on Rob's team really do like him and appreciate all he has done for the team (leadership, building shelter, winning challenges). I think that does play into their decision to not target him. Everyone wants to see someone they like win if not themself.

Gen
Member

08-22-2003

Friday, April 30, 2004 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I haven't seen this mentioned any where - look on the SNN spoiler site where they place green checks after each bootee. If you place your pointer on the last green check after Shii Ann's name, 6 initials will appear: BB, CB, JL, LB, LY, and MM. Does anyone have any idea what these mean?

SNN Spoiler


Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Friday, April 30, 2004 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
good find Gen! maybe it is the ppl that thought she would go...maybe Sneezer is actually 6 ppl's guesses

maybe it is a code

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Friday, April 30, 2004 - 1:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I cant get into SS..anyone else having a prob??

If anyone would know about Sneezer, they would

Hippyt
Member

09-10-2001

Friday, April 30, 2004 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You know what those are? The initials of the relatives that visited last night.
Bo Buchanan
Lilli Y. not Huang
L. Boneham
M. Mariano
J. Lewis
C. Bkirch

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Friday, April 30, 2004 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OOOHHH Hip you are goooooodddd!!!!!!!!!!

Gen
Member

08-22-2003

Friday, April 30, 2004 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good thinking, Hippyt! Thanks! That has been bugging me ever since I found the initials. Now I can relax. We will have to keep an eye on those checks from now on. Those sneaky folks at SNN might put other hints in there.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hate seeing the thumbs down
next to Rupert's name and not Jenna's..

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Entertainment Weekly has an ad for the Finale..it has their names drawn in stars in the sand...the top 3 stars have rob amber and rupert with a shell besides Rob's

the other stars have jenna tom shi and kathy! ..who left before ALicia...

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ah, so my theory that I posted under the INSTIGATOR thread must be TRUE LOL ( I am soooooo good)

And modest, too. ;-}

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
And vigorous, too

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can't get into Sucks...anyone else having trouble? it has been down for days..did they change the ezboard link again???

Who do we think is going this week??? who gets IC?

Gen
Member

08-22-2003

Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 2:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy, I've been able to get into Sucks, no trouble at all. Try this link:

SurvivorSucks

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Gen!! The link I have has worked until a few days ago

Kappy
Member

06-29-2002

Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There's a Jeff Probst interview at the following site.

http://www.canoe.ca/JamSurvivorAllStars/may4_survivor-can.html

It starts with: "Tattered friendships will be the theme of an emotionally charged final Tribal Council . . . .

"The end is pretty personal. I mean, it is probably the most honest and emotional final Tribal Council that we've had since the very first season because they were friends and there were a lot of hurt feelings when this thing was over," Probst told Jam! Showbiz on Tuesday."

Dang it dang it dang it!! That means Rob has to be one of the final two ~ Who else has hurt so many people? Arrrrggggghhhhh Stupid stupid people!


Kappy
Member

06-29-2002

Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm reading this article right now and it reminds me of how much he loved Jenna when she won as well and told everyone ahead of time how happy they would be with the winner. And now he's trying to tell us how much we should all like Rob. I hear alot of pr in this article being done to make people like Rob. Argggh, give it up, Jeff!

Kappy
Member

06-29-2002

Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 9:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh heck . . . Here's the article, lol!

***WARNING: THIS STORY MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS***
Probst promises 'Survivor' surprises
By John Powell -- JAM! Showbiz
Tattered friendships will be the theme of an emotionally charged final Tribal Council and the live reunion show promises 'Survivor All Stars' host Jeff Probst.

"The end is pretty personal. I mean, it is probably the most honest and emotional final Tribal Council that we've had since the very first season because they were friends and there were a lot of hurt feelings when this thing was over," Probst told Jam! Showbiz on Tuesday.

During the live reunion show which will air after the two-hour finale on CBS Sunday night, Probst also revealed that there is a major surprise awaiting viewers.

"There is a pretty good reveal on the live show," said Probst. "We are going to share something on that show that I think is certainly significant, completely unexpected and will definitely have people talking."

It has been rumoured even before the 'All Stars' season began that 'Boston' Rob Mariano - the scheming construction foreman - and his "love interest" on the series - Amber Brkich - would emerge as the final two players. Recently though, Internet gossip suggests that scenario might not be so, that Amber might turn on Rob and take Jenna Lewis with her into the finals.

Though Probst readily admits that he is secretly pulling for 'Boston' Rob to win, he is convinced Amber played a very clever and careful game.

"She was smart enough to let this guy, whose personality was so out front, to take the bullets," said Probst.

He suggested that despite what viewers may see on television, Amber probably had a more active role in the scheming than is portrayed.

"Rob would take a lot of heat and Amber would be the 'good cop' and come in and say...I hope that everyone is okay," he observed. "If Rob really has fallen in love with this girl that's when guys start making fatal mistakes."

During the filming of the series, 'Boston' Rob stunned Probst by being able to take on the leadership role and avoid being targeted by the other players. Probst chalks that up to maybe the other players believing that their alliance with Rob would take them to the end.

"Some people don't like 'Boston Rob' as much as I do because they are pulling for the underdog and they don't see him as the underdog," said Probst. "Well, I see him as the absolute underdog. This is the blue-collar dude from Boston saying...Gimme a shot. He has three gold chains around his neck. He goes out and finds the cutest girl on the island, tucks her under his arm, builds a shelter for her and then starts annihilating the enemy saying...Stick with me. We will go all the way. That is romantic and that kicks ass. In the jungle, man, that's how it should be."

As far as the other 'All Star' players go, Probst was impressed with Shii Ann's ability to keep herself in the game even though she was an "outsider" the entire time.

"Shii Ann is the type of player we like because she mixes it up and mixes it up," said Probst.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, Probst was disappointed with Rob Cesternino who he believes came into the game "unprepared" and didn't play aggressively as he should have. To Probst, the popular Rupert Boneham looks like he might be in danger too.

"I hate to say it but I worry about Rupert because either he is playing a really cagey game - even cagier than Big Tom - or he's unaware of how dicey the game is getting at this point", said Probst insisting that it might take someone like his "cut-throat" alliance partner Jenna Lewis to wake him up and get him fired up for the last phase.

Though Probst enjoyed filming the series, if it was up to him though there wouldn't be another 'All Stars' edition.

"All Star was a fun experiment. I would vote to never do it again if I had any say because I think the game is better played by strangers," he said.

To Probst, the benefit to having an 'All Star' season was that the series had 18 of its "greatest characters" who always gave the producers "gold" as far as drama and hilarity goes. The problem Probst had with the concept is that viewers had already seen the players before. Their behaviour and antics were nothing new.

"I am ready for new people," said Probst about the ninth season which is slated to air this fall and be filmed this summer. "I think it is going to be a new type of game. I really have this weird feeling that after watching the All Stars play it that maybe we will get back to a unique approach to the game rather the players trying to emulate people."

Probst fended off any suggestion that he and the other producers ever manipulate the outcome of the series.

"It is a show that is controlled by the participants in it. This isn't 'The Apprentice' where we can help keep someone in the show because Donald Trump is making the call. The participants themselves make the call. We are always at the mercy of our own show. We don't control it. We literally turn this show over and the $20 million dollar budget to 16 people we don't know and we cross our fingers."

With Probst signed on for four more seasons and senior producer/creator Mark Burnett in for at least two more, Probst sees 'Survivor' as a true mainstay of reality show television.

"I honestly think we can play this game a long, long time," said Probst.

The second-to-last 'Survivor All Stars' episode airs this Thursday night during which the final four players will be determined. On Sunday night, the two-hour season finale airs. As per usual, the finale will be followed by a live reunion show hosted by Probst.



Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Huh.. he really does seem to be lobbying for people to like Rob.. and it seems like he's giving stuff away at an odd time.. I mean, he KNOWS who's in the final two and then talkes about being "worried" about Rupert?

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 12:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It is a strange interview. Not as neutral as I would expect Jeff to be.


He does seem to be lobbying for Rob. Wonder why?