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Lorry
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07-27-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

Well, I would have had to freak out myself if Rich did that to me. Not because I am a prude, nor am I repulsed by him in particular... but just because. Just because that was entirely to far over the edge for me.

But hey folks, I'm an old broad and that sort of thing was just over the edge for me.

But what about some of you younger folks. Would you have been so upset as Sue? Would you have just laughed it off or as the preview showed... freaked???

Should the show have taken Sue aside and inquired about how she felt or just discussed the thing???

What could happen from this? Could Rich be legally in trouble? What about the show? Come on in you attorneys... fill us in on the possible repercussions of Richard's Rub.


Dipo
Member

04-23-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 12:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lorry, it has been so long since one bumped up against me, I might have jumped him. . . . .no, thats not true, I would have pushed him off. Not complained later. LOL

Magicjet
Member

09-25-2003

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 1:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes Rich committed the illegale act of "frotage"(sp) and could be taken to court and prosecuted along with CBS. He is just disgusting.

Caycaye
Member

09-14-2001

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 1:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Do you REALLY think that is why Sue is upset in next week's show?? I realize the scene was probably just the next day, but I mean, coming back to camp...everyone agreed Richard should go because he was disgusting...Sue didn't seem that overly upset. Why would "toughie" truck driver Sue FREAK out by Richard's behavior? She is used to his crassness more than anyone.

And why the word "spent"? She was NOT exhausted or had much time around Richard that day?

Magicjet
Member

09-25-2003

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 1:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can't say for sure why she is upset but to me it sounded like she was upset with Jeff for allowing Richard to behave this way while standing by doing nothing. The spent reference has me puzzeled. All I know is even an off duty hooker can be sexually harrassed and if he touched her with his private parts then that is what occured. Futher more, even if it was unintentinal, Sue still has every right to expect some protection against a naked 250 lb man when she is required to do a challenge or forfeit the show.

Jami
Member

10-08-2003

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 4:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Imight be just like Sue. She was shocked and thinking of the challenge. But after she got back to camp she thought about it and got upset. Jeff should have done something. But I know he wasn't thinking at the time either.

Justalittlebean
Member

08-15-2003

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 4:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that Sue was upset with someone else and not Richard. I think Sue would have come down on Richard big time immediately. There's more to what meets the eye in next weeks preview. I think she was upset about someone else.

Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm not sure what Sue is upset about next week, but I believe if it is about the incident, it could possibly be more about how blase everyone is about it more than the fact that it actually happened.

I would be livid if it happened to me, I complained and was subsequently told to "get over it". Any attitude that suggested it was just boyish play, or not taking such an act seriously would piss me off royally and I would probably become more vocal.

Sheilaree
Member

07-19-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If Richard did that to me I would have push him off. I was so happy to see Richard go and I clapped when they kicked his self off.

1kid4us
Member

07-30-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not that I want to be bashed.. but there were two other ways to go around richard, and she decided to stand there and go the short way and wait for richard to go around him, she could of waited until he was completely past her, but she had to get past him before he even got on to the middle of the platform.
not that i'm saying what he did was right, but she could of avoided it alltogether. personally i thought it was funny, and if it happened to me i would of made a joke out of it, and made some reference to his manhood. that's just me though...

Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sue probably could have taken a different route, but I believe she chose the route with Richard on the balancing bar because it was ths shortest route to where she needed to go. I don't think she chose the route simply because Richard was there. Also, I think the incident happened in the little platform where all the balancing bars came together. For a second I thought he was trying to do it to Kathy too, or maybe I just didn't see that part right.

I myself would not have complained at all. I personally would have reached down, grabbed the entire package and yanked with all my might. Richard would definitely think twice before he placed any body part on another person.

Zules
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08-21-2000

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I saw the clip of her yelling at Jeff but can't remember what she was saying. Could someone please refresh my memory?

Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
BTW... I may be way off base here...so I'm hoping for clarification...

I'm thinking the "penis-gate" happened when Kathy, Sue and Richard were all standing on the platform and Richard was undulating his hips at the women, making his penis flop up and down. This is when Jeff finally stepped in and said to stop it.

Did it happen on the balancing bar when Sue tried to pass Richard? Did I misinterpret what happened?

Sheilaree
Member

07-19-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes it did happen with Sue, and maybe that is why she is upset, I hope she sues, Richard for sexual harrassment. I am glad he was kicked off, I was getting tired of him dropping his shorts off evertime you turned around.

Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I re-watched the clip. It appears it happened when Rich reached the platform where Kathy and Sue were waiting to take off. He put himself very close to them and made it impossible for them to move without having to touch him. He did it to both women, but I couldn't tell if he actually touched either of them. He kept on doing it until Jeff intervened.

Sheilaree
Member

07-19-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
So does anyone think there will be a Survivor 8?

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is spoiler information.

Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ut oh
*heavy sigh...*

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am sorry...I will delete it.
shoot...just tried! Mods???
I am really sorry, I thought it was germaine to the discussion, didn't realize it was spoiler info.
slinks off

Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
*runs to hug Texannie....

Please don't go over this...we've lost too many already...

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The mods will delete the two posts, anyone who checks new messages will see that the thread has spoiler info. Plus, spoiler information isnt necessarily true. I just posted that it was spoiler info for those checking new messages. It isn't the end of the world.

Moderator
Moderator

06-30-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have moved the two articles to the 'Episode 6 - Outraged' thread in the Spoilers section.

Mod (22)

Happymom
Member

01-20-2003

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I've been reading all these Survivior threads (except spoilers) and some have pointed out re: Sue's outburst, that Rich is gone anyway. But Sue doesn't know he's gone, they aren't on the same tribe. She won't find out until the next challenge. Perhaps she's been really stewing about what happened. Perhaps her outburst at Jeff is before she realizes Rich is gone. Perhaps her outburst is about the Rich incident on the plank and it doesn't matter whether he's gone or not. Sue is a real hothead. If you remember the screaming she did at Kelly when Rich and Kelly were the final 2 during the first season of Survivor, she obviously had been stewing and gettting madder and madder at Kelly the more time went on. She also is obviously fed up with Tom. In trying to play the game well, she's probably been working very hard to keep her temper under control and her mouth shut. She could be at a bursting point.

I think she (and Kathy) have every right to be upset at Rich, they all do. What he did was very inappropriate (at the least), but Kathy really wants to win this game, she's an excellent player and very smart. She will decide winning the game is more important than making an issue out of this, imo. I think everyone has a right to be upset about Rich taking off his shorts, but I beleive his intention was only strategy, nothing more. It was a very bad decison. I'm sure he thought it would intimidate the guys more than the women.



1kid4us
Member

07-30-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"think everyone has a right to be upset about Rich taking off his shorts, but I beleive his intention was only strategy, nothing more. It was a very bad decison. I'm sure he thought it would intimidate the guys more than the women."

Your are correct Happymom... He had his shorts on and then took them off... For one reason only.. would you want to compete against him naked as a jay bird? he did that so he could get a free pass and flag for his team without any real work. so he used his nakedness as strategy so no-one would take him at the "fight range" he knew the guys wouldn't touch him if he was naked, so he used it to work for him. he didn't have to take anybody on.
but the end result led to the "incedent" that happened with the ladies and the twig.

Earthmother
Member

07-14-2002

Friday, February 27, 2004 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just don't think Sue's outrage is because of Hatch..she's known him a long time. I truly believe the outrage we are supposed to see next week has something to do with Big Tom..She has made reference to her dislike of the way he speaks to and of the women.