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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 1:21 am
Personally, I think we are over analyzing it... I think it comes under the category of (ahem...) 'hindsight is 20/20" lol, then again its 2 am my time, and I
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 2:37 am
i don't mean to sound however this might, but why shouldn't nudity be allowed in the competitions? it has been a part of the show since survivor one through today and it has produced some of the highest highs and lowest lows on the show. it's as much a part of the show as JP is...and in some ways it's less annoying than JP. what comes next? fines for cursing? no alcohol because of potentially bad consequences? no alliences because they encourage lying? i prefer the laissez-faire world of survivor, myself. i don't need or want any regulations on it. i reserve the right--as i did with jenna--to rake them over the coals when their nudity (or other behaviors) offends me, though.
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Queenfish
Member
07-24-2002
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 7:02 am
Kep-I agree with you 100%. Meanwhile, Richard is cruzing through the internet, Loving that we are all talking about him. His sole purpose for everything he does is attention. I find myself wondering exactly what happened, we know that was edited, there had to be much more to it than that. Also, it isn't likely that Sue blows up about this particular incident next week, because we all know how MB plays with us with the previews then it allways turns out to be something different than what we thought it would be. Too bad Sue didn't replay her speach from S1 about the "snake" blah blah blah. (pun intended)
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 12:22 pm
Lol, Reader...we may be 'over-analyzing' but this little debate over what Richard did or didn't do with his stuff has certainly lit up the board. Lots of posting on our opinions and I love to read everyone's take on the situation. 
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Bidasea
Member
09-30-2001
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 2:27 pm
LOL at TabbyKings last post...I'd go to my bedroom...Thats sooo funny...I'll just be glad to watch the rest of the shows without having to look thru the blurred screen...I'll bet Shii Ann will be happy not to have to see those twigs and berries too...
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 2:41 pm
You know, Richard has been the only one thru ALL seasons who was naked through most of the TV shows. ** Nudity has never been a component of the game, IMHO. Yes, there was skinny dipping one season (Steph? the female firefighter) and some 'warddrobe malfunctions' during comps (tube tops coming off, butts showing when swimming & osten's lack of shorts),Stripping for peanut butter/choc ....but never continuous nudity which had NOTHING to do with the show itself except for Rich. ** I guess the CBS will not have any problems with legalities as the big blurry dot obscured enough that none of us are sure of what even happened. Ah, the mystery of it all! :-)
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Magicjet
Member
09-25-2003
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 5:58 pm
I have to send my apologies to Ethan. I was upset when he won Africa because I so wanted Lex to win and thought Ethan was too boy next store. After the "Richard is ugly nude again" experience that we've all just been through, I have to say Ethan looks and acts like a gentleman. I still want Lex to win though. I also would like to commend the ladies of this board for mostly being outraged at Richard. It makes me laugh because I wish he could have met you guys instead of Sue on that wood plank. I'll bet he'd be sitting on a bucket of ice for quite awhile. lol
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 7:18 pm
On the early show, Richard said he was dumbfounded when Sue completely changed directions to come toward him on the board he was already walking, and they showed that and sure enough.. she basically called him out.. maybe she had some fantasy that he'd jump off so she could pass by?
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 7:31 pm
Sue started to go down that path and looked up and saw that Richard was coming towards the same path. She turned and started to switch paths and then I think she just thought, 'Hell no, that's the path I wanted to take and I don't care if Richard is on it, I'm taking it!'
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 9:31 pm
Dear Watching2 I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure that a contract can't contain provisions to allow any illegal activity.
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 10:08 pm
LOL Magicjet!
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 3:24 am
Ketchup - It finds the producers faultless - meaning the contestants accept all risk and any rights to come after them to sue about anything which happens while participating on the show. I was really surprised at the total control the "producers" have, with the only real option being to quit for the participant. I was just answering to the questions posed as to whether CBS could have a problem because of what happened. The other thing I was thinking is, wouldn't it depend on what the laws are in PANAMA? That's where it happened. If there isn't anything on the books there regarding this type of action, her only recourse might be to sue Richard for "pain & suffering" but then I would think his whole tribe should be able to do that just for having to look at him everyday. LOL 
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Hootyhoot
Member
12-18-2001
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 6:41 am
Surely, if it was a major problem for the producers/network/etc. they wouldn't have shown it on tv ... it could easily have been left out. Even if someone complained about it later, at least it wouldn't have been shown to the entire tv-watching world. And so since they showed it, especially post-boobygate, I think it's not a major problem to the network, and probably not to Sue either. I bet her anger is about something else entirely.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 9:20 am
I agree that possibly it should have been edited out, espeially if Sue isn't upset over it. However, I's sure it would not have been left undiscovered (somehow the incident would have been leaked) and then the network might have come under fire for covering the incident up. As distasteful as I find the entire penis gate affair, I think editing it out could have caused more problems for the network.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 10:22 am
I think the whole thing is much ado about nothing (pun intended). If something hadn't been said as Richard "rubbed" against Sue, we wouldn't have known WHY CBS flashed a disclaimer before that scene. Sure, what Richard did was inappropriate, and sure, I hated seeing him walking around all the time in his all-togethers (blurry spot and all). But if the next week's show has Sue all up in arms over what Richard did, then Sue is as close to the edge as ever. I'm guessing that she goes off at the next RC. Isn't that like a day or two AFTER the IC? By then, Richard was gone, and she should've gotten over the fact that he rubbed against her. Sure Richard was disgusting without his clothes. But that was the game HE was playing. It worked for him during Season 1. It didn't work so well this season. Ce la vie.
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Demeter
Member
08-05-2001
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 12:06 pm
I don't know why we are shown the clip of Sue being angry. I could easily see it be related to just about anything. However, if indeed it is related to the Richard situation...I have a hard time hearing something along the lines of "if it's days later, she should be over it." That's akin to saying people who are molested, sexually harassed, raped, robbed, burlarized or any other way victimized, they should "get over it" just because a little time has passed.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 8:50 pm
Demeter, it's like when you play sex games with someone, consenting and all. And then two days later, a girlfriend teases you about it, and all of a sudden you yell "rape." Sue was by no means pure in this, since it appeared she was taunting Richard. This is Sue, remember. More to the point is why no one ever said "Jeff, I am disgusted and offended. Please ask Richard to put his clothes back on." and then refused to play until he did so.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 9:13 pm
We've had several past seasons with naked guys and gals.. Richard, Osten, Rupert flashing from under his skirt, Jenna, Heidi, other guys on Osten's team, so how would they suddenly draw the line, this season, with Richard? And Sue went thru a whole season with Naked Dick, er Richard.. so she chose to come and play again, right? If all people who offended anyone were removed, who would be left?
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Cpmfinster
Member
12-01-2003
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:34 am
Here's the way I see it (Sue blowing up after the fact)... It's someone else telling Sue how to feel. Being offended and speaking up about it are two different things. She was offended but didn't make a big stink about it at the time. Then someone says "Get over it Sue, it was no big deal.", or even, "Hatch is gone Sue, so you won't have to worry about the Hatchling any more." Statements like that could easily set her off especially coming from JP or Tom.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:51 am
Tom would be more likely to say, "Oh come on you old hag, just have a drink and nothing will bother you"
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 8:03 pm
CBS could have edited out the whole scene plus Sue's reaction. It was left in to create interest, to get people talking about the show, to get everyone discussing it on the internet. Well, duh, it worked, and here we are!!!! Nudity has always been a part of Survivor and has always been highly promoted and then blurred out. I'm not offended by the nudity, but I am so grossed out, not only by what Richard apparently did but the fact that CBS chose to put it so "in your face" (HeeHee - you all know what I mean). Rubbing your genitals on someone is reprehensible, & Sue had every right to make an issue of it, even though she and Richard had been making sex jokes just a few minutes earlier. The most offensive nudity, to me, was when Jenna and Heidi stripped for what was really no good reason except to show off their bodies on television. Those bony ribcages with phony melons attached to the front were far and away more unattractive than than anything else on Survivor and will stick in my mind for a long time, along with Kimmi's big blue mouth. I hope I don't get modded for this, I am only telling the truth as I remember it. I have also posted this letter in another thread.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 3:10 pm
My goodness.. and I thought the whole screaming by Sue was because they kicked Richard out... thanks for that clip someone posted, it didn't look to me Sue was offended and if she did have any resentment against Richard for such an act I'm sure she would have dumped him in the water immediately afterwards... Oh well, good riddance! I was getting tired to see that white blot..
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 9:01 pm
I reserve judgement.
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Magicjet
Member
09-25-2003
| Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 9:41 pm
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Sue's outburst on the next show has to do with something Tom did when he was drinking. This outburst is too far removed from penis gate,(lol- thanks Kep)
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Kaili
Member
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 7:12 am
But doesn't the Insider clip on the CBS website specifically say that it's regarding Richard? I thought that it did, but I only watched it once.
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