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Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You know, when Rupert and Big Tom were arguing Rob was standing there with a HUGE GRIN on his face. How could the two men NOT notice Rob's reaction?? It was so obviously set up I dont understand how anyone could fall for it??


Everyone is assuming that Rob would be easy to beat if they were against him as Final TWO. Has anyone here heard any of the contestants talk about who they want to be up against OTHER than Boston Rob??
Maybe I'm wrong but since these people were basically ALL friends (knew each other) prior to the AllStar Season, I would suggest that Amber(under the radar)and Rob (<nd> and IN your FACE) made a deal before the show started. Betcha I'm right!!
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I hope THAT isnt the big surprise at the LIVE show!! Amber and Rob BEFORE the show. SIGH

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 1:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought Rupert mentioned to Tom something about Rob setting up the fight, but Tom was just yelling and screaming and didn't get it.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Guinevere...yes it IS Outwit,Outlast, Outplay BUT it also is NOT Outsnark, Outspite, Outnasty.

People HAVE managed to win an remain classy. I don't think Boston Rob remotely understands the concept.

Guinevere
Member

03-15-2001

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 3:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
But Ruperbear, should it be a requirement to win? Again, I understand not wanting someone like Rob to win, but I don't see how his snark makes him undeserving, unless one just means that he's undeserving of any rewards in life because he's a jerk. I don't see how being a jerk relates to being deserving in the context of the game.

>Also, I think Rupert has been laying low this game. It looked like he intentionally lost the truck challenge last night.<

I don't think this is true; I don't watch the Survivor Insider clips, but I understand there's a clip of Rupert complaining about not winning and claiming that the fishing has messed up his balance (presumably, an ear problem) and that's why he fell off the beam. Honestly, he seemed pretty pissed about losing. My perception of Rupert is that he is way too competitive and into being the alpha male to lay low for strategy reasons.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can see the view that Rob deserves to win if he makes it to the end because basically, the others have handed the game to him. They've had several opportunities to get rid of him now, but they insist on keeping him and letting him "take them to the finals." There's been times when I found Rob enjoyable, but then I see him saying snarky things and his arrogance just bugs the heck out of me. I guess of the two, I like Ambuh better than Rob since she doesn't say the nasty things he does. Remember, I can think of at least twice now, where she was 2nd either for reward or immunity and there were questions as to whether she "let" Rob have the award. She does rise to the occasion when it comes to competitions.

I also totally agree that Rob and Ambuh if judged on the amount of work they do since the shelter was built, wouldn't go far. Like Rupert said last night, they save up their strength for the immunity challenges.

I was never that crazy about Rupert during Pearl Island like others were and I really didn't care for him earier in this show when he was being stubborn and built that awful shelter. I find now, I like him the best of who is left and would like to see him win.

As far as how the jury votes? Who knows! We've some juries award the better player and then we've seen juries award well... Jenna M.! Rob C and Matt deserved to win far more than she did. She chose Matt and I really wanted him to win. "They" decided he was "too scary" or something(?!!) to give him the million? There was no way I understood that vote, esp. Christy who promised the "mean step-sisters" would never get the money.

I guess they wanted to fool us when they only showed Ambuh Rob and Tom talking prior the vote. We never got to see what Rupert or Jenna had to say and for that matter, what A&B may have said to R&J! I can't say I'm sorry to see Tom go. He was rather obnoxious right in the face of other players. I also wish they had put subtitles under what he was saying all the time last night, since I didn't have clue as to what he was saying half the time!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I sure didn't understand what Tom was saying last night either! When he told BR & Ambuh that he was the swing vote, I knew he was going buh-bye.
If it's BR & Jenna in the F2, I will be so disappointed because it's so predictable. Rob will when the next immunity and R & J will take out Ambuh. Jenna will will final immunity and take BR because she knows she can't win against Rupert. Just my

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 4:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No one is saying anything about 'requirements' Guinevere.

We are posting our feelings about the game and how it is being played.

Yes, there are many who condone the 'anything to win' mentality. I am just saying I am not one of them.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I LOVE Rupert Guinevere...but I agree with you that I really do NOT think he threw the truck challenge. He needs a vehicle too much. He is spent, in my opinion, from doing back to back Survivors. Can you imagine how vitamin deficient Rupert is by now??? Poor thing....

But I KNOW Rupert threw a few reward challenges in the beginning, because he didn't want to appear too strong. I mean, he may not have won the challenges had he gone all out, but I KNOW in the beginning he didn't go all out. He admitted as much in the beginning. I feel that he is going all out now, however, but his body will no longer respond like he is used to. That's why I have a bad feeling about Rupert winning any immunity. So, he will probably be out next. I am VERY saddened by that thought.....That is why I HOPE CBS rewards Rup in some other way...for being so popular with us folks out here.....

And as for Rob "not deserving" to win....I AGREE with you 100% that from what the other survivors know and have seen...and if I had not seen Robs meanness on his private camera time, Rob DEFINITELY would be the one to deserve to win....but, in my opinion, because Rob seems to ENJOY other people's misfortune, and not because he lied more, he is not deserving of ANY rewards. But as life teaches us....the deserving do not always win.....a lot of times the Robs of the world win...but guess what, the money won't make Rob any happier within himself. Anyone who has to put down EVERYONE to make himself feel better has very deep issues and until he fixes them....will ultimately be unhappy and his own worst enemy.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ah but Ruperbear....some of us are NOT condoning the "anything to win" mentality per say. We are saying we see Rob playing the better game. Not nicer. Not more polite. But the better job. I'm not sure anyone in Survivor history has controlled a game like he has.

He has displayed characteristics I would not like one bit in a friend, but I'm not watching to make friends. I'm watching for who played the best game, with a little bit of who has entertained me the most to watch. And of who is there, he is hands down that person. Now if there was someone who played like Ethan to compare him to, then I'd easily go the other way. But there isn't.

And for the record I thought the candy thing was super cheesy and a really stupid move. As for putting folks down, while I do feel he has gone too far, most of the time I agree with what he was saying. Half the time I have no clue wtf Big Tom was saying and he and his son came across dumb as a brick. Now why he felt a need to say this? Who knows. But I always try to allow for the questions and prodding that might have gone on to that point. I would love to see some of those comments as they were being recorded and hear what he was asked and hear the other stuff he said with it...and then judge if he was just purely mouthing off or if it was part of other comments we didn't hear. I don't trust the reality factor on any of these reality shows anymore. FYI (to change shows to make my point) just read Jesse's diary for The Bachelor about the first night and how he was having really good get to know chats with the girls and the producers kept interrupting and pushing them another direction. I know Rob had to say the stuff for them to show it...but I'd love to know the circumstances around it before totally judging him for it.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 8:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
When people live together in a restricted emotional competitive environment, they are bound to say things that they may not say otherwise. Rob tends to gloat too much and make negative remarks about the other contestants. However, if you want to talk about who is making negative comments, most of the other contestants should probably just get in line because they are all doing it. For example, Rupert about Jenna (how irritating she is), Big Tom about Sue (I think it was a witch reference and making jokes), Shi Ann about everyone else (stupid stupid stupid people), etc. I could go on and on. I’m not saying this is right – I’m just saying that this is bound to happen under these conditions.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 8:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, Lurk... you know the saying...To each, his own.

I have no problem with the view you hold of Rob. It's just that I can't find myself agreeing with any of your points.

But Vive La Difference.

This world would be a very dull place indeed, if we all had the same points of view on things.



Kappy
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06-29-2002

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yikes!

Yes, Rob built a great shelter. But for how long can one play "king" on that one accomplishment? He was pretty quiet a few weeks back when he had to meekly admit at TC that he hadn't caught any fish lately. He had the numbers behind him early on to feel confident at TC's. Then he let R&J into the final four and slowly eliminated most of his original alliances. His last chance at strength, imho, was in keeping Tom. Tom was the obvious swing vote simply in not being in either power couple and I think Tom would have stuck by Rob. So sorry but I just don't see how Rob is playing so superior to Rupert unless being lazy to conserve your strength for IC is now considered brilliant game playing?

I think the next TC comes down to which of the two men win the IC and if Rupert loses it, we all know how quickly Jenna will flip to the other side. That is Rob's only chance for remaining and I think it will have more to do with luck then superior game playing.

But then I'm not a Robbot.

Starshine40
Member

07-30-2002

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 10:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
QUOTE:
"Rupert, who I adored last Survivor and thought would be a fav of mine here has been nothing but grumpy and dour to watch this round. Dunno what happened to fun Rupert, but I haven't enjoyed this version one bit. He and Jenna do little but complain about others, yet just cruise along. He built that stupid underground shelter "

Rupert stated earlier that he realized he had come across as bossy and overbearing in Pearl Islands and came to play this game in a different way. Also since he built such a lousy shelter and raft ....I'm sure he felt he had better play an even lower keyed game, so switched even more after that.

QUOTE:
"You know, when Rupert and Big Tom were arguing Rob was standing there with a HUGE GRIN on his face. How could the two men NOT notice Rob's reaction?? It was so obviously set up I dont understand how anyone could fall for it?? "

Rupert didn't "fall" for it, he was well aware at the time that Rob had set this up, he stated so on the show.

Rob and Amber seem to win in the mental and most of the physical challenges. Now if they would only have a strength challenge which is where Rupert has the best chance to win, then he can stay in the game and go further. If only they had 2 strength challenges and Rupert could win the next 2 immunities can he be assured of staying in till the final 2.

Rupert and Jenna need to vote out either Rob or Amber, whoever doesn't have immunity, but that would probably end in a tie vote as R/A would both vote against either R/J....hope there's no purple rock this time! What bothers me is that Jenna would stab Rup in the back and vote him out to make F3!!!!

It would be an interesting twist if the jury votes for the last 3 or 4 instead of F2! OR if all the players from the show get a jury vote...

Starshine40
Member

07-30-2002

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 10:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
QUOTE from Jeff Probst about Big Reveal on the live reunion show.

Question: This spot that I'm seeing on CBS, about the Finale, "A Surprise So Big, It Will Stun Everyone, We Guarantee It." Is this network sweeps promotion or does something big really happen?
Jeff Probst: There's a pretty good reveal on the live show. I don't write those promos but we are going to share something on that show that I think is certainly significant, completely unexpected and will have people talking.

Question: On the Final Hour or the reunion show?
Jeff Probst: Thinking...thinking... something in the reunion show.


Starshine40
Member

07-30-2002

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 10:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
copied from spoiler thread

Jeff Probst was on The View today (and had wonderful things to say re ELizabeth, the View Host who was an Australia Survivor)

They asked Jeff if the twist would involve perhaps a marriage proposal between Rob and Amber.

He said the twist has absolutely nothing to do with Rob and Amber but rather with the game of Survivor itself.

So there is both a twist in the game and a big reveal on the live show.

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Friday, May 07, 2004 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am really starting to believe Wilson's theory that they announce the winner and then tell the viewers we vote for our fav survivor and they will give them one million on the show next Thurs!!!

I think Amber wins..they know we will be pissed..and decided to prolong sweeps, esp since Friends isnt on next Thur...what better way to get 2 nites of huge ratings..well worth the extra mil!!

I love Rupert but if Rob doesnt win I would prolly vote for him to get the mil...cuz he played a better game and entertained me more than Rupert this season...if this was pearl islands..i would vote rupert to win hands down!

Starshine40
Member

07-30-2002

Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 5:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
QUOTE:
"I am really starting to believe Wilson's theory that they announce the winner and then tell the viewers we vote for our fav survivor and they will give them one million on the show next Thurs!!! "
I'll second that, I think the audience would really like it too!

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sounds like this could be it. There has to be some purpose for the extra show.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
rob knew that jenna would stick with him,whereas he wasn't so sure about tom. i think it was better game playing to keep jenna and vote out tom, if you're talking just j and t. but i think it would have been smarter for rob and a to vote out rupert. i don't understand why they didn't, even taking into acct that 1. rupert feeds them, but they only have 3 days left (i think tc was on the night of day 36) and 2. they don't know rupert from the previous season.

Moderator
Moderator

06-30-2002

Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Magicjet - your post is being removed (again) because it violates the rules of this board. Please do not repost it.

Starshine40
Member

07-30-2002

Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
from ABC Survivor 8 page

SURVIVOR STATS
Some may insist that manipulative Boston Rob dominates at this point, but in the Sole Survivor poll, web fans rate Amber, his equally manipulative gal pal, more likely to win it all. Is Amber really pulling the strings? Of the Final Four, Rupert has remained web fans' top pick for Sole Survivor by a wide margin and has had the highest popularity rating for the entire run of ALL-STARS. In fact, Rupert's popularity rating has been so high that on the Popularity Results chart, no other All-Star's line has ever touched his.


Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow, that is so cool!

Thanks for posting this Starshine, it's really made my day,kiddo...yippee :-)

Caycaye
Member

09-14-2001

Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Starshine & Rupertbear....

I hope those statistics stay true, IF they give another million to the most popular All-Star, because Rupert sure could use it and DESERVES it for sticking out TWO survivors in a row!

Magicjet
Member

09-25-2003

Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 2:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rob will win.