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Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved the proposal too! I got all teary-eyed. I think it's very obvious Rob adores Amber. She better treat him right!

Hey, has anyone seen any chat transcripts yet? Jenna and Rupert's chats were today and I have yet to see a transcript.

Realbiz
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10-24-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i'm waiting for it too, brenda

Magicjet
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09-25-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tish, you are one great poster. I love your comments.

Chief1
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08-18-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just thinking about the Rob/Amber F2 when Rob proposed. Hate to rain on his parade if he truly loves her, but I have a diabolical thought about the whole thing.

Anybody else wondering if Rob proposed to Amber, just so he could make sure he had access to the million? I mean, with the way he played the game, even he knew there was a chance the jury would not vote for him. All along, he seemed willing to do ANYTHING to get that money, including questioning Amber in the F3 phase (not trusting her to take him to F2).

I think he proposed right before the winner was announced, as a cover up. (I still think he has feelings for her, but not like that!) And please don't read anything into this statement, 'cause it's JMHO: Most alpha males don't want to lose to a female!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Often people "fall in love" when they've been thru a difficult situation together. The test of the relationship is when the "situation" is over, that's when you see what is really there.

Right now it's Rob and Amber against all the people who think poorly of them, that will help hold them together for a time. But when the all the fuss dies down, that's when we'll see if their relationship is real.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'd LOVE to see Rupert win the million!!! He is the closest one to the end that didn't compromise his principles and character.

I LOVE Jenna L.'s video on why she deserves the million......she said...."OK...vote for Rupert! He deserves it!"

I AGREE!!!!

Kizz
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07-26-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I haven't read thru the whole thread yet, so I'm sorry if this is a repeat....

Last night's Survivor was the best Bachelor finale ever!!

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
if anyone taped the reunion hour, when rupert was sitting between tom and rob and rob offered his hand to shake, i'm almost positive i say him slightly jerk his hand back to pay tom back for doing that during final tribal counsel. did anyone else notice that or can u ck the tapes. it was very slight, but, i believe he was going to pull back

Cassie
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07-15-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Chief, I have no doubts about Rob's feelings for Amber. I think he fell head over heels for her, and I don't think for a moment he proposed just to assure winning. I only hope her feelings are as sincere as his. I thought that ring was gorgeous, btw.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I apologize in advance for the length of this. I must be having a soapbox kind of day...

I think Jeff had already planned on making the reunion all about Rob and Amber even before the proposal happened. If Rob hadn't proposed, Jeff would have likely spent the hour asking them over and over "So, do we hear wedding bells in your future?"

I was very disappointed in this as it made it seem like Survivor, once the kingpin of reality TV, was now trying to create a new Trista and Ryan to copycat the dating shows. Usually there's a lot more Q&A with the other contestants, but this time even when one walked out Jeff's response was basically "Okay, we have to move on. Back to Rob and Amber..."

I also felt bad for Jerri, because actress or not she's a human being. Her point that the crowd was light-heartedly booing and cheering over genuine hurt feelings and broken relationships was too much truth for the wrestlemania atmosphere in that building. I'm glad that at least Richard was able to get the point across after she left. I know it struck my conscience. The old "that's what you signed up for" nonsense that one of the others shouted out is getting old, almost as old as "it's just a game." They signed up for a televised competition. How sad that at least one of them thought they had signed over their right to be treated like a real person. What human being voluntarily signs up to have their friendships trivialized through cheers and jeers and to give up their ability to speak their mind without an arena of strangers shouting them down? I just don't buy the idea that getting in front of a camera is an automatic invitation to be treated like a lower life form.

I disagree that Colby and Rupert are loved because they didn't use and discard people for money. The reason Jerri hated Colby in the first place was because he did use and discard his first alliance, as Amber reminded us last night. The audiences loved him for that (and his looks) because they hated his old alliance, not because it was honorable or anything. He also made disrespectful remarks about Keith and engaged in a lot of revisionist history by saying the alliance was him and Tina bringing Keith along for the ride when in fact Keith was the one who originated the alliance with Tina. Then he makes a speech to Shii Ann about his disgust for coattail riders, suggesting he does regret bringing Tina to the end.

Rupert never actually broke his word, but not for lack of trying. He was ready to break his alliance with Rob if Tom and Jenna would've solidified their commitment to that idea, but they just didn't trust each other. I also seem to recall Rupert stealing personal property, which flies in the face of "high moral standards." Rudy is the only one who can boast of integrity. The others are loved simply because they had enough loveable qualities to make up for their shortcomings in the viewers' eyes.

Chief1, I just keep remembering Rob's comment from several episodes back which was something like "Either we'll be spending my money or we'll be spending her money." Regardless, I hope they are happy.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Romber......that is hysterical.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Okay did anyone hear Amber say she would donate money to a charity. She mentioned Muscular Dystrophy and said that it strikes adults usually later in their 40s or 50s, and she has a friend who was diagnosed in her 20s. Well, I believe she was talking about Multiple Sclerosis. I think she had to come up with something real quick and she got her M diseases confused. I personally don't believe she is going to donate a penny to any charity, but that is just my personal opinion. Do ya think I am very cynical?

Pascalle
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09-25-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jeff said this morning on CBS that he is tired of winners being asked about charity every year and they should just let the winners enjoy the money. I agree.

Yuhuru
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09-27-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Rob and Amber have "real" feelings for each other. Their parents genuinely seemed happy. It's usually hard for parents to fake that.

Who knows if it will last. They have about as much chance as anybody else these days.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They should enjoy the money, I just thought her response was very transparent, but then again, so was Rob's.

Pascalle
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09-25-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ps- Also Chief, Rob got 250 thou for coming in 2nd plus that new truck so even without Amber, he did good.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I believe that Tina was Colby's alliance partner and as such, he stayed true to his word.

Who is to say who approached whom first, as far as the conversation with regard to ousting Rob? If he didn't entertain the thought, with only five people left, Rupert could have easily been the next one voted off.

Neither Rupert nor Colby made an alliance with just about everyone in the game, then shook their hand while sticking the shiv between their ribs.

You may not agree with me but I still believe they have way more moral fiber than Boston Rob.



Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ginger, I noticed that too. I was very confused about MD being an older person's disease.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
According to ET Jerri had a breakdown last night.

I think it was the audience who had one!

Dogdoc
Member

09-29-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sherbabe, I saw Rob offer his hand to Tom and then start to pull it back too. I don't think it is was very adult thing to do but Tom started it. It's all his fault. lol

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 6:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dogdoc, I thought I saw Boston Rob put his hand out to Big Tom and keep it out until he shook it. Lex, Big Tom and Alicia all made me sick to my stomach with all of their whining. I guarantee everyone of them would have done the same thing if they were in Boston Rob's shoes. He is the one who deserved to win the million dollars.

Sasha
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03-06-2004

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Rvon. I was really impressed with Shi-Ann. Not only did she play well but she was a good loser. Her attitude and realization that it is just a game earned her the car. Lex, Tom, ALicia and to an extent Kathy were very sore losers. Richard pointed out how they would of done the same thing as BR. However, I think they are in total denial. I was very glad that Boston Rob did apoligize to Bo. He was somewhat harsh on the subject of Tom and his family. That being said he still deserved to win. Oh well, even though it looks like Rupert fans are in full force, I am still voting form the Robfather.

Lancecrossfire
Moderator

07-13-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tish, my 2:42 post was tongue in cheek--I realize that it didn't come over at all that way. :-)

I know Jeff couldn't have said anything like I suggested.:-) I admit the first thing I thought of was Mike/Krista. And right after that I realized Rob/Amber could very well be different.

We shall see. I hope it works for them.

Konamouse
Member

07-16-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am also sad that Amber felt she had to suggest donating money to a charity when asked what would she do with the money.
I would have rewarded her for a more honest approach (i.e. buy a house, pay off my parent's mortgage, go on a vacation, etc).

'squeek'

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cruzlvr ~ Thanks for relaying what you heard Rob say in an interview. I really felt that whole part of the TC speech was a complete fake and I'm glad to know he owned up to it afterwards. And you're right, what a mean spirited person he is! I wonder how gracious Rob would have been in 4th or 5th place and then got to come home and hear his brother be belittled by the the guys who stabbed him in the back. Something tells me he would have been five times worse then Tom and Lex combined. Look at how he handled winning last night. He still had to take shots at Tom and others. But then I think we know what his answer would be to that all that . . "I got the money so who cares about you people".

Karuuna brought up a great point about falling in love during tough moments. Something about last night reminded me of Evan and what's-her-name from the 1st Joe Millionaire and I was so happy for them. And then the reunion happened.
Here's to hoping Rob and Amber are the real deal and not just in it for the People cover and commercials to be made.