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Wendo
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, April 23, 2004 - 8:14 pm
Well Lance, I do agree that there is personal accountability. And, the players in Survivor obviously had a hand in their undoing and eventual ejection out of the game (and onto the jury.) However, just because someone played a great game to get to the final two doesn't mean they've played a great game to win the million dollars. As I said in another thread, kicking people on to the jury is HALF the game. The other half is kicking them off in a way they don't feel stabbed in the back by you. At this point, I don't see how Rob has accomplished this. Of course, the game isn't done yet and perhaps Rob, should he make final 2, gives a kick butt speech.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 3:59 am
I read an article on this board (somewhere, can't remember exactly where) that the real reason for Rob being in the "cat-bird's seat", is due not only to his gameplay, but due to the lackadaisial and laid back attitude of the other players. I believe the term used was that the other players didn't seem as "hungry" to win as they did during their first game. They are simply content to sit back and let Rob take them as far as he wants to. I agree with this assessment wholeheartedly when it comes to the original Chapera tribe members. The only other tribe members actually trying to play the game, were those NOT on Chapera. (I mean before Chapera became Mogo Mogo.) Also, Rob is playing exactly as he did in Marquesas, but back then the other players were in game mode too, and he didn't last long. I'm in full agreement with Lance (my usual stance most of the time anyway) With the exception of Shi-Ann, the remaining tribe members are in large part responsible for Rob making it this far, and unfortunately, I believe they have allowed him to "rule" far to long for any of them to do anything about it now. Unless some serious gameplay comes into action by the remaining "Rob"bots, BR will most likely be in the F2. JMHO
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 8:18 am
Also keep in mind they are JUST starting to see that he made deals with everyone (as he is now starting to have to break his deals lol). I like Rob, and think he's fun to watch, but I fear that will be his ultimate downfall at some point. I taped Kathy on Regis and Kelly and she said she is STILL hurt and betrayed by him because they had developed a good real life friendship, speaking every week and emailing all the time. She sounded as if she would never forgive him personally. It was interesting for anyone who missed it. She had personality profiles done on all the other Survivors to get a handle on who she was going up against, and so she could plan her strategy. The only one she didn't have one done on was "her dear friend Rob." She trusted him and didn't think she needed to. So I'm thinking if he ends up in the F2 just hand the other person the $$$, cause I can't see Kathy and Lex not swaying the Jury. And they voted already right? So not like he can do damage control w/them if he does make it that far. Just hope it doesn't end up him and Amber...didn't like her first time/don't like her now. I keep looking for a personality. Well whatever she has Rob genuinely seems to like it lol. And ditto Rob getting folks to where they are...for all stars there was far less strategizing and game playing than I expected. Of course I don't think having 3 teams helped. It allowed the weaker to gang up on past winners/strategizers and pluck them off. We needed Richard and Rudy on the same team for example. I can see why they separated them BUT there should have been some grouping of past teammates. Woulda been more interesting IMHO than how this has played out.
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 8:34 am
Lurk...great post. I think I agree with all you've said. This season was a fiasco I think and I'll be so ready for strangers, again, as someone else mentioned. It appears that challenges are 1/3 of this now and how deceptive and dishonest is 2/3. How sad.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 8:24 pm
It would have been a more interesting game if they had one tribe from the begining. They would scramble to make alliances every three days. At every competition they would draw numbers to make a new team for that one competition. They would never know if they would be playing against someone that they had an alliance with and then have to re build it later at camp. They have to find a way to stop the pagoning. We have seen Male against Female, three teams and now I want to see just one team because it would be impossible for one person to dominate. We would see more interaction between everyone. Let the sparks fly!!
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Jeep
Member
10-17-2001
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 1:25 pm
Anyone try to get onto the Sucks board today? I can't get anything. The office computers were "updated" today and wondered if it was just me or Sucks. I can get onto everything else.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 1:34 pm
Jeep, I just tried to but couldn't, so it may be universal.
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Jeep
Member
10-17-2001
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 1:36 pm
Thanks Brenda!
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Cathie
Member
08-16-2000
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:39 pm
All of the EZboards were down most of the past 24 hours but are back up now.
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 8:24 pm
Well, Snewser is early this week. He has already said who is going. No surprise..... Shii-Ann.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 4:31 am
RB .... where did you see that? It's Thursday morning and I just looked at Snewser's list and it didn't say anything......just 2 check marks. Did you catch it last night and then he took it back off?
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Duckie
Member
09-13-2000
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 4:47 am
Snewswer made a post at sucks......said it was Shi Ann.....sigh, wish those folks would get some smarts
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 5:21 am
Oh.......okay!!! Thanks Duckie!
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Jeep
Member
10-17-2001
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 5:53 am
I still can't get onto Sucks. Is it still down? I miss all that wild stuff LOL
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 7:00 am
Yes, Alaginger...Duckie's right...I read it at Sucks.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 11:46 am
Acme is also up.. no surprises there either.. but after reading the whole thing, I'm craving Chinese food!!
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Hippyt
Member
09-10-2001
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 12:05 pm
<yawn> sure is a predictable season this time.....
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 1:29 pm
I think at times games (either portions or the whole thing) can be predictable. It seems to be an issue when the game is also supposed to be entertainment. And Survivor for some is more about entertainment than it is a game--and for other the opposite it true. I have to admit that some of the ways Lex played wasn't predictable at all for me.
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Hippyt
Member
09-10-2001
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 1:41 pm
I'm still enjoying the show,especially seeing the old players again. I just can't get over the fact that nobody seems to realize Rob is running the show. It's amazing to me that he hasn't been targeted at all,even when he doesn't win immunity. As much as I like Lex,boy he sure nailed his own coffin shut.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 1:59 pm
Hippyt, I agree with you about Lex, and am also with you on not being able to understand how they can't see what's going on with Rob--or if they see it, why they don't do something about it when they have a chance. As long as they have multiple tribes to start the game, and the numbers are swayed one way at merge time, Pagoning would be the norm. I think a lot of loyalty is built the first half of the show with those beginning tribes. It seems to be the nature of the game given those parameters.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 2:39 pm
Okay, I'm clueless. What does "Acme's up" mean? I've seen this in two different threads. Is Acme a spoiler?
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 2:41 pm
Well...I Am certainly NOT a Rob fan.....AT ALL!!!!! But if he DOES end up in the final two against ANYONE...even Rupert (my fave)....I think Rob would get my vote for the sheer fact that he "outwitted" and "intimidated" EVERYONE!!! Yep....if Rob ends up in final two (heaven forbid!)...Rob DESERVES to win!
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 3:10 pm
Curly it's a site Here:http://www.acmebraintrust.com/index.php?page=430&parent=85 People listen to their predictions, like Snewser's etc.
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 3:16 pm
Oops...I think that link is old...here: http://www.acmebraintrust.com/index.php?page=430&parent=85
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 4:09 pm
Just go to http://www.acmebraintrust.com Then click on weekly picks Then click on Acme's ASS week 13
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