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Kappy
Member

06-29-2002

Friday, May 14, 2004 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Let's not forget that one reason for Jerri going into Survivor was to help a fledgling acting career. And in Hollywood, there is no bad publicity. That said, I too felt for her last Sunday. I felt it was one of the rudest audiences I have seen in quite awhile.

But at the same time, I was shocked at the amount of hatred Jerri still carried toward Colby going into this game. It's been how many years since S2? Hopefully, like she said, after a few cocktails and alot of talking, she will finally let it go.

<Removed only because the statement referenced was edited. ModND>

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Friday, May 14, 2004 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Few people would want to see an innocent person feel bad or worse feel responsible for it. At the same time I don’t think that someone (e.g. Jerri) should be able to say anything they want to in a public forum without expecting and receiving some dissenting opinion and being held accountable for their views and actions.

As far as Jeff’s treatment of the “bad guys”, my view is that he greatly appreciates their contribution to the show (given his gleeful interactions with the “Robfather”, Richard, Sue and Jon for example).

Lurknomore
Member

07-07-2001

Friday, May 14, 2004 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'd just like to add one possibility for consideration. There is a lot of talk here about what was said by whom in the press, what was done in game play, and many points have validity. But I think there might be an even bigger factor, but one we will likely never know about. We have NO clue what was said between these folks off air in real life. My guess is that obviously things are said and discussed and could likely carry much more influence than the other factors. How do we know that Jerri didn't go of on Mark Burnett and/or Jeff off air in addition to the tv guide thing. I'm sure there are tons of conversations that would stun us, both good and bad. Plus remember there are parties after parties and what generally flows at parties? Alcohol. And we know what that does to loosen lips. Just a possibility.

As for the Rob comment, I really couldn't decide how to take it. I must say Rob looked somewhat stunned, so I'm not sure it was said in good fun. But it was fast and too hard to tell. I do agree Jerri is reaping what she sowed, but I agree her self perception doesn't match up with ours.

Pascalle
Member

09-25-2003

Friday, May 14, 2004 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It depends on who the viewer will preceived as "bad". I have never preceived Sue as bad. I totally understood her speach to Kelly. I did preceive Kelly as arrogant when I heard her say she couldn't believe they voted Richard the winner. Ah, Kelly, he beat you and won the Mil. I like Richard but did not think his nakedness was a good game move in ASS. I didn't blame Sue for being angry but wished she had stayed. Imagine if a woman had decided to run naked all the time like Richard? Oh the selfrightous horror of it all! It's all in the perception most of the time where Reality shows are concerned. Most viewers cannot get past the 1st impression. Here's a clue, Mark Burnett did not go to the nearest prison looking for players. None of these people are bad in the criminal sense.

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Friday, May 14, 2004 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
>Here's a clue, Mark Burnett did not go to the nearest prison looking for players. None of these people are bad in the criminal sense.<

Absolutely, which is why I put the description "bad guys" in quotes. Everyone has a different opinion regarding what is bad, IMO non of these people seriously qualify as "bad guys" in real life, and some of them aren't even guys.

Pascalle
Member

09-25-2003

Friday, May 14, 2004 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Exactly Jimmer.

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, Kelly being arrogant and not believing they gave the mil to Richard...who does that sound like?

I think Jeff was teasing Cesternino, as he uses a lot of self-deprecating humour, himself.

Women have gone naked on the show. Granted, they are not walking around as Richard did but I don't think most people think it's that big a deal.

Personally, I just think it was pathetic that Jenna and Heidi decided to strip off for some peanut butter because they knew they were getting food any way. The two of them were emaciated by then but probably figured this was there last chance to get Playboy to notice them.

Richard was naked because it's part of his comfort zone. He did not strip off hoping for a deal in a magazine.

No...Sue is not bad...she is a 'drama queen', setting up over-the-top scenarios, that will have people remembering her.

None of these people are shrinking violets. They signed up because the idea of fame and fortune appeals to them.


Lurknomore
Member

07-07-2001

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
BTW Rupertbear...I think we were respectful in our debates and just presented different viewpoints. Not that there was any chance we were gonna change each other minds, least we did a polite dissection of our boyz LOL.

As for comments made by Jeff, I am not sure if folks missed my post or didn't agree/get my point, but I still think we should take into account there are far more conversations and interactions that we are NOT privy too than we see, especially where it involves production folks. I really think that is a factor at play here.

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey, Lurk...I totally agree about out debates. I think you and I are the same, in that we enjoy defending our points of view. :-)

And yes, it's true we only get the tip of the iceberg, both in what is shown on the show and what goes on behind the scenes.

We are shown only select morsels that they wish us to see.

Oh and an add-on bit about Sue...she was carrying on during the season about being sexually violated by Richard, then she comes home and has breast augmentation, liposuction, an eye lift, etc, etc. In my book those two do not add up to someone 'traumatized' by supposed sexual harrassment.

To me, Sue was just out to make the best of a bad decision... her decision to sign up for All Stars.



Caycaye
Member

09-14-2001

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have been reading and and lurking for the last couple of days, and thought someone else would mention this...but no one has...sooo

I KNOW Jeff was joking with Rob C about Rob getting better looking girlfriends since Survivor....

If you recall....Rob C. was always complaining that "beautiful girls" like Shawna, Heidi and Jenna M. would never even speak to him in real life. And at Rob C.'s reunion show, or one of the many interviews with Rob C. after his Survivor, Rob HIMSELF said that one of the main differences in his life since being on Survivor, was that good-looking girls were paying attention to him for the first time. And he said...."As a matter of fact, I have a REAL girlfriend right now, and she is BEAUTIFUL!"...and Jeff or whoever it was, laughed at Rob C.

So the recent comment to Rob C. about his "beautiful girlfriend" was in reference to that.

Pascalle
Member

09-25-2003

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 2:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
RupertB- I agree about Heidi and Jenna . I never did understand why they took their clothes off. I don't remember Jeff telling them they could only have the peanutbutter and chocolate if they went naked? Did I miss something? It was so stupid because they looked like prison camp inmates with their ribs sticking out. About Rob. C.- I never thought he was a bad looking guy in the first place. Jeff is kind of a little shrimp but I always thought Rob. C. was ok. lol

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 3:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pascalle...now come on...if ya keep agreeing with me...you'll get me all confused!!!.....lol lol lol ;)

Pascalle
Member

09-25-2003

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LoL- RB

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought they took their shirts off for the guys to step out of the competition. My vague recollection is that they told the guys they would take their shirts off if the guys jumped in the water or something.

Spear
Member

08-06-2001

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 10:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pascalle is right -- Jenna and Heidi stripped (not just their shirts) for no reason. Jenna came up with the idea of getting naked for peanut butter and chocolate so Jeff brought out these items. However, he never said they had to strip (can you imagine the outcry if he did?). All they had to do was step off their poles.