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Brenda1966

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On the gossip page (the chat one) at E! online, Wanda (or whatever her name is now) has listed one of the final four women. I don't really trust her as a source, but am wondering if anyone has read elsewhere that Amber is in the final 4. Please say it isn't so!

Tabbyking

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
of the first survivor, i only ever saw the last 2 episodes. is susan the one who gave the horrible speech about letting the other gal (paraphrased) die of thirst rather than giving her a sip of water?

Sbw

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby... That was Susan!

Maris

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 3:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You mean this speech????


You will not get my vote. My vote will go to Richard. And I hope that is the one vote that makes you lose the money. If it's not, so be it, I'll shake your hand, and I'll go from here, but if I were ever to pass you along in life again, and you were laying there, dying of thirst, I would not give you a drink of water. I would let the vultures take you and do whatever they want with you, with no ill regrets. I plead to the jury tonight to think a little bit about the island that we have been on. This island is pretty much full of only two things, snakes and rats. And in the end of Mother Nature, we have Richard the Snake, who knowingly went after prey, and Kelly who turned into the rat that ran around like the rats do on this island, trying to run from the snake. I feel we owe it to the island spirits that we have come to know, to let it be in the end the way Mother Nature intended it to be, for the snake to eat the rat.

Caroline

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 8:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Still one of my all-time favorite speeches during the TC Q&A...and what made it even better was her subsequent laughing at herself for it...

Roro

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i thought jenna did a really good job that season as well. but good mean speech. lol let's see them do it again sam!!

Lauram

Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Clearly a speach which will go down in the memory books!

Now I am just wondering. If Susan does make it to the Jury will she try to top herself or realize that she has already said enough.

Hamsterlady

Friday, January 16, 2004 - 10:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I love it Maris!

Thanks for posting that! :)

I don't think there will ever be a Survivor speech like hers....LOL

Padivius

Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just read an article featuring lots of quotes from Jeff Probst. The article was concerning spoilers and the fact that it's becoming very difficult for shows like Survivor to exist effectively since alot of information leaks out before the show.
I certainly don't want to see Survivor go off the air because spoilers run rampant throughout the Internet... It's just something to think about...

The article also mentionned the fact that since CBS can't really stop the information from leaking out, they have begun to release their own fake information out there anonymously... That's kinda interesting... Any spoiler you might think is so very well proven could just be CBS making it up to fool everyone.

While spoilers and information like this is certainly interesting to read about before it's proven on-air, there is a certain something to be gotten from watching the show with anticipation, not knowing at all what is really going to happen. Spoilers are just that -- they spoil the fun and the suspense for everyone. The whole point of these shows (from the viewers standpoint) is to anticipate who will be the next to go and what will happen. If you bring in spoilers... well, what's the fun in that?

Anyways, I just thought it was something to think about. I'm not trying to say "Spoilers are bad!" because hey, here I am, too! But, it kinds made me step back and think about it, you know?

-Padivius

Here's that article:

Will Survivor survive the Internet?
Reality show's host fears for future of similar TV fare
By STEVE TILLEY
Edmonton Sun
Just as video killed the radio star, the Internet could ultimately drive a stake through the heart of reality TV.

So says Survivor host Jeff Probst, who will once again be overseeing challenges, doling out rewards and conducting Tribal Councils in Survivor: All-Stars, the eighth instalment in the reality TV series that started it all. It debuts Feb. 1 on CBS and Global immediately following the Super Bowl XXXVII broadcast.

Each successive season of Survivor has seen more and more information leaked out ahead of time, often through so-called spoiler websites on the Net. It culminated with an off-shore betting scandal that revealed Sandra Diaz-Twine would wind up the winner of Survivor: Pearl Islands before the show had even begun airing.

"The Internet and the accessibility to information has made it very difficult to do shows like Survivor," Probst told the Sun yesterday in a phone interview from his home in Los Angeles. "And it wouldn't surprise me if ultimately it led to the demise of our show at some point."

With each series filmed a few months before it goes to air, keeping a lid on twists, vote results and other secrets is proving nigh-on impossible. And it's not the contestants themselves who are doing the blabbing.

"Sooner or later you cannot combat people who betray you," Probst said. "We have a crew of 400 people, and everybody tells somebody something. I definitely believe that.

"Once you spread information like that and there's money to be made or fame to be had - 'Hey I know something you don't know, listen to this' - all we can do, honestly, is counter it with our own misinformation."

Survivor: All-Stars will see the return of 18 past contestants, including memorable characters like the original Survivor's Richard Hatch and crusty former navy SEAL Rudy Boesch, and Survivor: Pearl Islands would-be Blackbeard, Rupert Boneham.

Some All-Stars spoilers have already bubbled to the surface, suggesting that the past $1-million winners don't fare all that well, that Rupert does not emerge as the ultimate victor and that Survivor: The Amazon winner Jenna Morasca leaves the show early, due to the death of her mother.

Then again, maybe some of those tidbits have just been released into the wild by CBS's own counter-intelligence squad. Gamblers, be warned.

Said Probst: "Better make sure if you're betting, that what you're reading is right."


Jeep

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's interesting. The misinformation they release should keep things scrambled up enough to ruin some spoilers. However, the bottom line is that Survivor is making big bucks for CBS and everyone else, even with the spoilers. Until that changes, I think we'll see plenty more Survivors. At least I hope! JMHO

Pamy

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Chillone's report is out!!!! 46 pages!!!!!!

Pamy

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
spoiler info ahead yadad yaadda yadad....blah blabh ...I am at page 27 and he reveals first boot

Landi

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
where do you get that pamy?????

Pamy

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
http://www.thechillone.com/all-stars.pdf

Pamy

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
hmmmm after reading Padi's post about JP comments maybe this whole Chillone thing is wrong

I just love trying to figure out what is right.

Puttergirl

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The solution... air it live!

Jan

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I got an illegal operation report when I tried to read it. Can you give us some hints Pamy?? :)

Kaili

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Use the alphabet backwards.

VGSZMTLVHURIHG, according to the ChillOne thing.

He also is claiming to know the final seven in order. But wasn't there something that said the F4 are all women? That contradicts him.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were paying locals to give false information. They could pay them more to lie than a spy could pay to get good information.

Or they are lying about lying :)

Kappy

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great read, Pamy! Thanks for the links everyone. But I had to stop reading because while I really really wanted to know, I also didn't want to know, SIGH.

Mamie316

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 6:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't understand using the alphabet backwards. I couldn't get on the site.

Padivius

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That link doesn't work for me, Pamy... no illegal operation or anything, just flat out won't open...

Pamy

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
it is at Survivornews.net...maybe you can go to site then access chillone thing from there

Mamie316

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I still can't get it to open even going to Survivornew.net. I guess they really don't want me to know!

Azriel

Monday, January 19, 2004 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Mamie, it's in a pdf format. You have to have Adobe to get it to open. It also took a little bit to load because the document is so long.

March

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
For those that have read it, do you think the information he received is correct or do you think MB planted "The Man" for anyone snooping?