Archive through October 03, 2003
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Andrew Savage (Team Morgan):
Archive through October 03, 2003
Kalekona | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:11 am     I loved Brian.. he was my pick to win from day one.. (he was just the smartest one in his tribe) Andrew is one of my fav. I think they way he took the role of leader was pretty darn smart, he didn't exert control he aloowed it to be given to him.. (and he is a former "Jerry Springer Show" attorney so he's seen it all. |
Bastable | Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:53 pm     Thanks, Denecee... but I'm not sure I like him within the game! I know he's a terrific guy in the Real World, but as I am quickly realizing, they are totally different things. |
Maris | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 05:16 am     I think Andrew will make it about half way then he will be gone once the tribes merge. I found it very interesting that Lillian chose Andrew to go to to set up the Nicole eviction. This is where I would love to see some live feeds and watch Andrew strategy with the others. Too soon to say whether I like him or not. |
Whoami | Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 02:18 pm     The only thing I didn't like about him was how he "evaluated" Lil and Ryan S. I didn't see Ryan "give up" and "not give 100%" so I don't really know how correct he may have been with that. But to start talking down Lil, and whether she could "keep up" and stuff. I don't know. I think he already decided she was too weak and probably useless. I just don't like it when someone makes those kind of analysis on another (been on the receiving end of that one time too many). |
Whoami | Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:59 pm     ...sorry Andrew. I didn't mean to kill your thread!  |
Chiparock | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 12:44 pm     ROFL, Whoami! Glad to see that I'm not the only threadstopper! I'm still not sure whether I like Andrew -- the jury is still out as far as he's concerned (pun intended). |
Texasdeb | Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 04:56 pm     He's smart (remember he kept some $$ after the village just in case it would be needed for the boat). I don't like him so far as much as some of his other tribe members. But, I see others going b/4 him. |
Catfat | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:50 am     I think it was so unnecessary to label Ryan S. as a "limp noodle". That reason alone is enough to make me dislike this guy. I posted this once before and was modded, can anyone tell me why? |
Prisonerno6 | Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:32 am     "He's smart (remember he kept some $$ after the village just in case it would be needed for the boat)." He ain't that smart. That team took their leftover money to their island, where they might be able to use it for tiddlywinks. |
Prisonerno6 | Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 05:56 am     "Skyleur" He should be voted off just for foisting that name on his kid. |
Not1worry | Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 06:05 am     Prisoner, I made this same comment a few weeks ago. Somebody said his wife has French origins and that may explain the extra vowel. I always feel for the kids that are going to have their names misspelled all their life. |
Chiparock | Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 11:49 pm     Andrew's wife is from Mauritius, which is an island near South Africa. The languages spoken there are French and English, with some Creole. I looked it up; inquiring minds want to know LOL! |
Tishala | Monday, September 29, 2003 - 12:14 am     Mauritius is a beautiful place! Extraordinary! It's not really near South Africa though...it's off the east coast of Africa, north of Reunion and east of Madagascar. It has about 1/3 Africans, 1/3 French, and 1/3 ethnic Indians [it's in the Indian Ocean and it was colonized by the french]. It has the greatest beaches in the world and, although it's apparently gotten less bucolic in the past three years, it was the best trip I've ever taken. [I had a friend whose father was Mauritius' ambassador to the US]. |
Tabbyking | Monday, September 29, 2003 - 09:24 am     hearing he was a member of the legal counsel for jerry springer's show at one time did not impress me. it made me think of the sleazy lawyer-types, not the kind that command respect! i think he is thinking of himself as the 'decider' of the tribe, not the leader. to me, being a leader means delegating jobs and making things work as a team, not singling people out for eviction and having the others follow his choice! the hard part of being the leader is that once people start to resent you, you are a goner. it's harder to fly under the raider. people who have been barely seen on this show are burton and trish and a few others. very little camera time, IMO. |
Lumbele | Monday, September 29, 2003 - 09:39 am     Out of TVCH loyalty to Bastable I wanted to like and root for Andrew. But it is becoming very trying. Instead of blaming young Ryan for loosing the IC and drawing a bead on Lil it is time for him to look inward. If seeing "his" tribe in serious trouble hasn't kicked his "leadership" into gear before, then Jeff's needling and Lil's evasiveness as to what needs to be done finally seem to have given him a kick in his self-assured yet ineffective bum. Well, duh, 6 days to figure out that things aren't working? "We are going back to reorganise!" (paraphrasing)Now let's see if he can rally the troops and get something done, or if the next mishap or loss becomes all Lil's fault. Not only has she been on his blacklist from day one because of her sex and age, but he is also too smart not to realise that she could show him up with her scout skills and make him lose face with the rest of the gang. Sorry, Andrew, you might be a nice guy in RL but I'll have to refrain from rooting for a team dud. |
Crazydog | Monday, September 29, 2003 - 10:10 am     I'm still liking him. I don't think it's fair to blame him for all the problems of the Morgan tribe, just because Nicole named him as the leader. It certainly wasn't his fault that Ryan S couldn't swim. I would have voted off Ryan S as well. |
Chiparock | Monday, September 29, 2003 - 10:12 am     Thanks for the clarification, Tishala. Lucky you to have visited Mauritius, and with such a distinguished host. It sounds like paradise. One more location to put on my list of places to visit when I win the Lottery! |
Tabbyking | Monday, September 29, 2003 - 10:36 am     i don't dislike him totally. going to watch him and see what develops. i just don't care for the jerry springer show and it kind of brought andrew 'down' for being associated with sleaze! just me... i do hope he does some 'leadership' things besides delegate who goes, however! i am still laughing over osten voting for ryan s, ...if you want off, you vote for someone other than the person who will also garner several votes to hope that other person doesn't get the majority of votes... |
Lumbele | Monday, September 29, 2003 - 11:19 am     Crazy, I may have missed him protesting the coronation or at least asking the other tribe members for their input. The leader label stroked his ego, but so far, like Tabby, I have only seen him use it to complain about others and to push for his choice of eviction. Could be creative editing, but hey, that's all I have to go on. |
Pannie | Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 05:36 pm     Leadership -> it's lonely at the top, especially when you blame someone in front of others, don't organize your team to survive, and openly put a bulls-eye on the next victim. Didn't this type of 'leadership' cause Mutiny on the Bounty? |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 09:01 pm     worthless. absolute loser IMO. he is still not suggesting things to make things work, just picking who goes. has gone to the bottom of my like list. |
Pannie | Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 09:26 pm     CBS tried to show him more leader-like in his confessionals about his mates. I didn't buy it, though. At TC, Jeff didn't buy his positive attitude either. Andy was just glad he had another easy target outsider to toss away. |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 09:34 pm     i see most of this whole group as totally apathetic...i can't see them buying popcorn at a matinee, let alone being a hardworking tribe on survivor. they just keep saying, "well, things will change." hookay, then, kids, is this going to happen by itself? i have always found that if you sit around and let life pass you by, well, guess what that damn life does? it passes you by. who'da thunk it?! i think i have seen this group on a show before. it was called 'hee haw'. i hope they merge while ryan and tijuana have a chance! |
Whoami | Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:02 pm     I can just picture this guy in the Manager's conference room, non-chalantly picking whose head to chop in the next layoff. Naturally, it's neither him nor his cronies. |
Webkitty | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 05:52 am     Andew needs to quit trying to stroke Osten's ego and just dig in and do it himself. He is counting on Osten to carry the team, and its not working. His cheerleading efforts are falling on deaf ears. Osten is shutting down, he literally gave up on the RC and let his boat drift out of the action. I had to watch my tape after the show to make sure I saw what I saw. Andrew was screaming at him to "get back over here". From Ryan's chat, we know that Andrew had a mind set before they even jumped off the boat. He shut himself off to possibilties in Ryan and Lil, making them feel like outsiders right from the start and putting all the team's hopes on Osten's shoulders. I don't think at this point Morgan can turn this thing around without the help of a twist. I expect to see one next episode. MB must have a "Mauramu" contingency ready for each season. |
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