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Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 06:52 am     The Balboa tribe being named after Rupert's snake... while most think that means Rupert will be around for the merge, could it instead be in honor of his "demise"? I think if he is voted off, it would be with respect (except from Jon, of course!) for his strength. Ah well.... the straightest line from all of this information really does lead me to Rupert or Shawn and I am leaning towards Shawn because of the plane spoiler. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 06:59 am     Wezzie posted this at Sucks to clarify exactly what she and Quartzeye heard... "We heard that a young woman goes first...we think it's Nicole. We heard that the tribes live on Mogo Mogo and Gibraleon and that they merge on Mogo Mogo. We heard that an older woman comes back into the game. We heard that an older woman goes far in the game. We heard that Shawn and Jon are the last people to leave Isla Contadora on a plane. (Their photos were pointed at.) We heard that 'a woman with a man's name' and 'a black person' do well in the game. Plus, we heard that they have a cannon challenge on Saboga beach (muddy). We saw the cannons. The rest of our info comes from visiting the camps and seeing the props. Pretty soon my photos will be on-line. Maybe you can get more info from them. EDIT: I checked my notes and have changed this post to represent more accurately what we heard. Remember, all our conversations were in Spanish. I had Spanish in college and took some courses 10 yrs ago, but I'm FAR from fluent. I know two tenses...period. No names were ever mentioned. Our sources didn't know anyone by name...they simply looked at the photos from cbs.com and pointed at pictures. And that changed within minutes...."maybe this one, maybe that one." They didn't get a good look at the contestants, and to them (and to me) the contestants seem to look similar." So that spoiler for Shawn and Jon being the last two to fly out of Contadora, which most people think means they are the last to leave before the jury or merge, could be a pretty strong spoiler. There are no men left on Drake that could be mistake for Shawn in a photo, so if Drake loses IC, it is very likely Shawn who goes. If Morgan ends up losing IC, Andrew or possibly Ryan *might* be mistaken for him. But we don't think Morgan loses the IC, so... yeah, I'm going with Shawn for now. I reserve the right to change my mind at any second, LOL! |
March | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 07:43 am     Lurknomore... don't be shy, go back and grill the guy, we need info here.LOL I so hope this means Osten is gone soon, can't handle him much longer. Puttergirl... LOL, still chuckling over that one. Azriel... your boyfriend could have a point there, just kidding. Makes me glad that I am on Atlantic time. |
Starlymae | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 11:01 am     On the clip for next week, you see Rupert hanging on a log and saying "I can't believe this". Then they cut to Sandra saying "O'man this is crazy". They both look to be in there camp. |
Kaili | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 11:18 am     Starlymae... I saw what you posted about the treemail in the other thread. Could it be- I'm just tossing this out here now and I know it's a stretch, but no more so that what others have come up with so far this season and who knows, right? I could be right- *They are given some sort of chance to switch tribes (like with Shi-ann except maybe it's real this time) *Rupert and Shawn are shocked at the situation/opportunity *Rupert and Shawn make a deal where Shawn (or Rupert) will switch tribes to work on alliances with the Morgans for both of them after the merge- sort of as an information gathering thing *One or the other doesn't go through with it (betrayal) OR *They have to switch someone out and there's a certain way it will be done- maybe the loser of a competition within each tribe has to go *Again, Rupert and Sandra express their feelings about it *Someone throws the competition so they can go Or maybe, like they have done before, Sandra saying "This is crazy" is referring to something that has nothing to do with this. Maybe she thinks it's crazy that Rupert is conversing with a sick snake. Say Rupert is asking the snake advice and getting really into the snake being his friend and she just thinks that it's a bit loony. |
March | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 11:39 am     Kaili, If there is a switch as you mentioned above than I could certainly see Rupert saying "I can't believe this", especially if the person went willingly. As we have all seen Rupert is a Drake man through and through. He has said that someone from Drake is going to win this game. And that would certainly be a betrayal to him, which was one of the clues for this week. And I could also see Sandra say "This is crazy" over this as I can't see her ever wanting to go to Morgan. |
Kaili | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 12:01 pm     I'm thinking more here- their comments could also have something to do with the Reward Challenge looting. Something crazy may happen there. Or, Shawn goes to loot Morgan...he and Rupert make a deal to not take anything too big- maybe rupert suggests something specific. Shawn goes to do his looting and ends up taking something else. So many scenarios, so little time |
Webkitty | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 01:25 pm     Kaili, you may be on to something. Maybe Sandra IS saying, ....this is crazy....in response to Rupert having a heart to heart talk with a snake. Maybe, little Balboa doesn't make it, and Rupert is the next Jan and wants to have a burial ceremony for him. (sorry, I get silly by this time every week, too many scenarios is right) I was just over at Phoenix, and was reading the (supposed) descriptions of the (supposed) returning players. A "older" woman, a young woman and a well built man with dark hair. Most people assume the man is Burton. But, if it is, why would he still be so bitter? He got a second chance. Maybe, the well built man with dark hair is Rupert. Maybe TDT and Snewser are right, his tribe votes him out but he gets back in the game and is the F3 male with a beard. Then again, Burton was rumored to have had a family visit later on. Why would he be bitter, is he mis-directing us? Spoilers this year are more confusing than if we had none. Good job, EPMB! BTW... Chillone has posted at Sucks and intends on going down to Panama to spoil the All Star show. (just in case anyone cares,lol) |
Marej | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 01:48 pm     This is making my head spin. What does SEG and EPMB mean? Is the new tribe name really Balboa? I forget where I saw this, but it was said that Trish was the person in charge. |
Webkitty | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 01:57 pm     SEG - Survivor Entertainment Group EPMB - Evil P---- Mark Burnett lol Marej, the merged tribe name has been reported to be Balboa. Hope this helps  |
Webkitty | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 02:03 pm     I should have said, Hermie and I are Survivor geeks (a badge proudly worn) and Kaili is coming along just nicely (Ginger is the queen of vidcaps and she not too shabby with predictions herself) Actually, I have been away from tvch for months, and see many new "faces" that are really getting into this season, yeah!!!  |
Awareinva | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 03:03 pm     Webkitty, I hadn't seen any posts from Chillone this season at SSucks. What was his wisdom this time around??? (still chuckling at the EPMB discussion... funny how you just start using terms and don't think about it... must mean you're a hard core survivor!!!) Does anyone have a strong feeling about the truth to this ghost tribe rumor? I have seen so much spec about this ghost tribe coming into play this episode.... but I just don't buy it. Where is the MarkBurnett famous overhype??!!?? I remember all the hype about three tribes since Africa and it hasn't come into play. I think if there is any truth to it.. and I have strong doubts, it will be next week with the "What the...?" title. I just can't see a big twist like a third tribe without some type of big buildup in previews. Although Wezzie being a source for it gives it some value... interesting concept if true. |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 04:04 pm     If Burton gets a shot at coming back in the game, and is beaten by LILLIAN, of all people, for the actual spot, I can see his bitterness compounding. Or, if it is Shawn that gets voted out this week, and HE gets the shot at coming back and Burton doesn't, that could also make him more bitter, especially since he would see Shawn as one of the ones that betrayed him. Aware, I believe MB said that there would be TWO never seen before twists this year. The first one was the castaways being stranded with only the clothes on their back. The second has not occurred yet. Merge, switch, that has all been done. Bringing someone back... that hasn't been done. It could very well be twist #2. especially when you consider what people like Wezzie learned. Also, Lillian made quite a few cryptic comments about how her torch didn't go out and what could that mean? I don't recall any past Survivors ever alluding to their chance not being quite over like she has. Whether that means its her or if it is someone else and she is misdirection is another debate, but yes, at this point I am expecting to see some scenario where evicted players have a chance to come back in. If this is going to happen, I bet we get hard evidence in the week after this show. Like you said, MB likes to overhype. He wouldn't want to give it away too soon, but he will want people to tune in when it is time. So I would think we will see evidence in promos for next week as to whether this will actually happen. |
Surreal_Badger | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 04:51 pm     just posted this to the generic spoiler thread, but i see that snewser has downgraded trish and osten and upgraded jon (a big yuck). so maybe in my attempts underanalyze, i have AGAIN chosen wrong. maybe shawn isn't going after all. maybe it's trish?!? |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 05:24 pm     Crap! I have been asking people what they think about Trish going for two days now, and I have outlined my reasoning why it is possible, and no one has paid a bit of attention to me! So I let it be and figured I was stupid and voted for Shawn!! If she goes tomorrow night, can I brag??? Just a little bit?? And what about Osten? Did I not call the no beard thing and doubted he matched the F3 man based on that?? This is getting interesting!! Thanks for the heads up, Surreal! I'm going to look now! (Hey, maybe Snewser lurks here! Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!) |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 05:46 pm     I just went and looked and don't know what to think. Snewser has a new category described as Dark Horse Vibes. That is supposed to be a GOOD thing. Dark horses are the ones who are not expected to do much, but do. I think he is saying any one of them could end up going far, he just doesn't know. Although he has bumped Trish and Osten down to the Dark Horse Vibes category (they are there with Rupert, Christa, Shawn and Ryan), he has also left them in the original spots up top so they are now on his list twice. And Osten still has a thumbs up in both places, whereas Trish has a thumbs neutral in the Dark Horse place and a thumbs up in the top place. I think he is indicating she *may* go and then make it back in. I don't think anyone knows for sure if that F2 older woman is supposed to be Trish or Lillian because they BOTH have longevity spoilers. He is hedging, methinks. Interestingly, Osten is the only one in the Dark Horse category who has a thumbs up. I guess Snewser thinks he still makes it rather far, but maybe not F3 far. Jon, well, Jon has definitely been upgraded. He has a thumbs up now and has moved up the list. Only one picture of him, unlike Osten and Trish. As the sole member of Jon's "fan" club (fan may be too strong a word, LOL!), I'm not too upset about that, but my sympathies to those of you who are! |
Andysmojo | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 06:05 pm     Could someone please give me a link to Snewser? Tks! |
Jeep | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 06:11 pm     Here it is Andy. Hope I did it right: Survivornews |
Andysmojo | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 06:14 pm     Works great, thank you Jeep!  |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 06:16 pm     Survivor News Home Page Snewser's Spoilers/Picks Snewser's Scorecard Warning! He can be very cryptic! |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 06:17 pm     Oops, I was too late! It takes me a long time to do the links! |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 07:14 pm     Hey, now all you super spoilers have started to vote Trish!! Are you doing it cuz of Snewser or do you know something you are not telling? Spill! |
Surreal_Badger | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 07:33 pm     well hermione, tho' i was leaning towards shawn this week, the more I think about it, the more I think trish would be a good candidate for ousting. michelle was the obvious choice last week. and to a certain extent, shawn's the obvious one this week. and i'm just not sure we can have two "obvious" boots in a row (for the sake of editing and for the way these crazy players' minds work) Trish leaving would also fit nicely with the promos, misdirection and all, for this week. For example, this could be the big "betrayal." Perhaps she tries to engineer rupert's exit, and instead rupert and shawn ally to oust her. plus, she has been edited to say negative comments lately -- never a good sign. (and they've been negative comments about rupert, the fan and clearly the MB fave). |
Hermione69 | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 07:47 pm     hey surreal! it's funny because yesterday morning i made some arguments for trish to go, but lost some steam when no one seemed to give credence to my ideas. (sigh, what a pity party i am having, ROFL!) basically my argument was that she could very likely be the older woman in the F2 that comes back in the game, but for that to happen, she would HAVE to go next. i have been skeptical of lillian being the one since she started dropping those hints in her post boot interviews. i didn't think she would be allowed to do that if it was really her. it struck me as false because it was too overdone, IMHO, and it got me to thinking, well, if it is not lillian who is the older woman who comes back, then it has to be trish... TDT still has her as safe, though. tomorrow will be interesting. |
Auntiemike | Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 08:10 pm     What I love is how involved we all are in this years' Survivor. It's almost like we needed a good reality show to come along again after bummer summer fare. I have heard nothing but good, positive comments from everyone on how much people are enjoying this season (me included!). I haven't heard nor read all the rumors but sure appreciate what speculation you have put out there. Always need food for thought .... and, to build up anticipation for Thursday night. Gosh I love/hate this addiction! |
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