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Hummingbird

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He's a spoiled baby. What did he think he was getting into? Just remember that he took a place that could have been filled by someone who was worthy of the challenge.

Tabbyking

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think he is a wuss. the most-buff contestant and no brain to match the brawn. i believe he really wanted off and wasn't smart enough to think to vote someone other than ryan s so that he (osten) would have the majority of votes and be ousted.
now, he may get a second wind and end up doing well, but i think he really wanted off at that point.

Grooch

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Herm, heh! heh! heh!

Btw, if anyone commenting on Osten's health has read my post earlier about my bouts w/ bronchitis, I was perfectly healthy all year long. It was just at a certain time of year, I was prone to have a relapse and I had to take extra care of myself. Plus, it was never something that I consciously thought of ahead of time.

Extra cold weather, dampness, stress, etc, and I could feel it to start it coming on. I then needed to slow down and take care of myself.

I am sure Osten felt and was in perfect health when he started out. It was a few days of stress, no food, no water and the cold (only a pair of underwear to live in) and dampness could really be putting a toll on his body if he did have something like this in his past.

Dkstar2162

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OH absolutely Grooch. My daughter has terrible bronchitis every year around the same time too. You know your getting sick but did he not ever watch any episode of survivor to know what he was getting into? I just dont get it. What was he thinking? I do believe his tribe not winning any challenges might have something to do with it. But he was so into it when he jumped off that boat and ran thru town looking for supplies. Looks like things are not going HIS way so he wants out.

Prisonerno6

Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Osten were faking it to put his teammates off his scent (so to speak), then why wouldn't he fess up to the camera?

Personally, I think he thought he would carry this team, based on things he said the first show, so he takes it personally when they don't win -- and if they do ever win anything, I bet he takes the credit for it. :)

Kearie

Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I honestly think Osten should have been voted out.
After his "whine fest" can the Morgan tribe count on him to not want to quit later? Winning in this game isn't always based on brawn and muscle.
It also takes heart, guts and brains.

Skinny Ryan got the shaft, but in the long run, it will be Osten that screws team Morgan.

Grooch

Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Heh! All you non believers!

Go read Ryan S's interview at Survivor Fevor. Ryan acknowledges how much work Osten has been doing. In fact, it sounds like no one else is really helping him with the shelter and the fire, etc.

Osten is doing all the hard work, and so he should be allowed a day to decompress and whine about it. He earned that right. None of the others have though.

YAY, OSTEN!!!

Neko

Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Meh Osten...
His whining was annoying, strategy or not.

If it continues, I won't care if it's one of the smartest things Osten could do, I'll want him gone.
It was giving me a headache. :P

Grooch

Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 11:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Neko, stop your whining about Osten, It's giving me a headache. :P

(((Neko)))

Ophiliasgrandma

Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 11:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't believe Osten thought for a single second that he would ever suffer from cold in Panama. I know from numerous trips through the Canal during the day that it is blazing hot. I didn't have a clue until the other night that it could get cold at night. So, I'm guessing it never entered his head either.

Enigma2

Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 08:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Grooch:

If Osten has a health problem, I would agree with you. But Big Lill was pointing out that Osten has plenty of energy when he is cavorting/playing on the beach. (A serious illness would not be overlooked by Survivor producers –threat of a law suit) I'm afraid that Osten is simply lacking in emotional stamina, and is a bit of a wimp.

Ophiliasgrandma

Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Being prone to pneumonia wouldn't give him any health or energy problems on an on-going basis. I would guess when he's well, he's healthy.

Grooch

Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly, OG. He was playing football in the middle of the day when the sun was out and things were dry.

If anyone reads Ryan S's interview at Survivor Fevor, Ryan says that Osten was doing all the hard work at camp.

Give him some slack. 15 to 30 minutes playing ball out in the hot dry sun, probably did wonders for a man who only has a pair of underwear to wear in the cold damp, night.

If he is doing most of the hard work, they should be forgiving of him for spending a few minutes enjoying himself in the sun, which he needs.

He's out in the sun, drying out and he is relaxing, enjoying himself for a short time.

Until you have potential lung problems, you have no idea how important this can be to avoid coming down with them.

Again, in Ryan S's interview, he said that Osten was doing most of the work. To bad all they bothered to show was him whining.

What is worse? Him working the hardest, but whined? Or others not working at all, didn't whine, and was able to find fault with the one who did whine (but did work the hardest.)

Seems like an easy choice for me. :)

Grooch

Sunday, September 28, 2003 - 04:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YAY, OSTEN!!!!

Prisonerno6

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 05:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, Grooch, just not feeling the Osten love here. If he's cold at night, instead of playing football during the day, maybe he could spend some time fashioning some coverings out of the local fauna. I just think Osten is all flash. If it doesn't cause rippling muscles for the camera, he doesn't do it.

Nicole said something about them having blankets, but that they were infested with fleas. A good dunk in the ocean, a good boiling over the fire, and then an airing in the sun should take care of that. I guess it's more fun to complain...

Meridian

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 06:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Osten's cry of defeat is yet another symptom of what plagues the Morgan tribe. The unwillingness to be truthful about their situation will undoubtedly cost them more members until they realize that they must work together. Until the merge, each team must remain cohesive, working as a unit for the common goal of survival. Whining about outdoor conditions is a pointless waste of energy. Instead of hand-wringing, he ought to be weaving palms for shelter or fishing for sustenance. I, for one, will not be disappointed when he is eliminated at Tribal Council. Send him home to suck on his thumb and snuggle with his "binky."

Chippy

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't muster up any excuses for Osten either. He was a favorite of mine until he pulled the whining "I wanna go hooooooooooommmmmmeee" crap. That whole team has done nothing to improve their situation as a group. There's a couple individuals that would like to take the bull by the horns, but I think with this group, they'd be asking for the boot. I knew they were in trouble when they got to the village and took off in 100 different directions with no plan, list, nothing. It's just gone downhill from there. Unless the producers come up with a challenge they can't lose, they're likely to stay on their course of being whittled down to nothing.

Sure seems like all the real survivors got on the other team.

I'm hoping for a change- just to keep things interesting.

Maris

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 06:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Chippy. It seems like now would be a good time to find themselves a new leader. Mr. Armani doesnt seem to have what it takes to motivate his team. Time for Lillian to step up to the plate and get these kids working.

Needmylifeback

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 06:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If you think about what Osten put in his 'personal items' bag before he was tossed overboard.....

Two bottles of booze...walkman....I can't remember what else....

He was planning on just hanging around, smoozing and acting cool...

Then the 'plan' changed and he had to work....


If you have noticed that "MR. ARMANI"...in that swiming/diving challenge hung back...probably made himself the last swimmer...they only needed 5 of the 6 of them for the swim/dive portion...he could have made Ryan S. do it for the last part...Oh...but, then Osten would have had to swim...and he claims he's a poor swimmer....Did you notice that Lilli was the ONLY one on that team to put the previous 'bounty' in the chest and then her own???? Both Ryans 'wimped' out and brought theirs back....Lilli should have been the leader ...they would have had a chance....Now all that team has is ....well, I'll keep my mouth shut! LOL!

Enigma2

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm in full agreement with the last five postings regarding Osten. He is an emotional wimp.

Yes, I did notice that Lill was the best Morganite competitor in the 'dive-for-treasure' business. However, I would not like her to take on a major leadership role. (Leaders become targets.) (A notable disappointment was Ryan O.: he was not much better in the comp. than Ryan S.)

TV is not showing what occupies the Morganites during the day. (We get to see Lill fetching water.) They do not seem to be accomplishing anything which would provide them with food or better shelter or any of the necessities for suvival. On the other hand, we do get to see them complain. It's past-due for this group to get-a-plan...

Kaili

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 07:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, this is what I don't get. Both he and Tijuana are saying how cold it is at night. I just found a website that lists the daily weather there for the whole show. I think a low of the upper 70s is kinda nice...

Survivor 7 Weather Guides

Okay, Day 6 had a low of 73 and there were storms, but Day 5: Low of 77, Day 4: Low of 79, Day 3, 2, and 1: Low of 77.

Essence

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 08:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I read an interview with Nicole where she talked about it freezing at night also.

Kaili

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I suppose if you have wet clothes and it's damp- but any time I have camped in the summer it's about the same- warm and humid. I don't even use a sleeping bag then. but I do have more on me than them. A t-shirt and pajama pants anyway...

Maris

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Lill needs to take the lead until the merge, then back off. At this point I would think her team is desperate enough that they will not penalize anyone for helping them along to win one competition. I think it is time for some straight talking.

Enigma2

Monday, September 29, 2003 - 01:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaili: the only explanation is that Osten went over to that tree on the left, and turned the temperature guage for the a.c. down...

I still think that Big Lill would be better off by trying to influence leader-Andrew, rather than by being la leader herself. Andrew seems to trust her. And after that under-water competition, it must be clear that she is a (physical) asset to the Morganites. I also think that while Lill may be the better leader -in essence– she is just a bit abrasive in her attitudes toward the slackers.