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Archive through November 07, 2003
Pengoh | Monday, November 03, 2003 - 01:27 pm     It doesn't mean he's voted off soon. Surivor All-Stars started filming today.. but Survivor 7 was filmed months ago. The finale in Panama is scheduled after the end of filming for all-stars, so it all works out. The only thing is if he gets booted off soon we won't see him in chat or the Early show. He might make it to the end! At least now when he gets voted off I have something to look forward to |
Enigma2 | Monday, November 03, 2003 - 02:50 pm     Gen: thanks for the link. I hope that you and Pengoh are correct. I wasn't particularly looking forward to Celeb. Survior (remember Celeb. Mole?), but if Rupert is in it, I will definitely be watching... (And, Pamy, yes: it would be nice to see Christy again...) Surfgirl, again, feels the same way that I do. (Only, she says it better.) Lorry, thanks for the Trish quotes. I like her even more, and hope she is one of the two to return to the game. What can I say? I seem to agree with just-about everyone. So, I'll shut-up. |
Chance | Monday, November 03, 2003 - 08:52 pm     I still love Rupert. He's larger than life but he's human too. I thought he was too intense, however, others have speculated that Rupert was using the "break him down(Jon) build him back up(with the hug)" technique. The yahoo premium insider for this week shows how hurt Ruppie was about the constant ragging that Burton, Shawn and to a lesser extent, Michelle laid on Ruppie,behind his back, and to his face. I don't blame him. He never ragged on them. He never tried to humiliate them or act as tho they were stupid. BUT I AM SO THRILLED to read that Rupert and Sandra are in ALL STAR SURVIVOR !!! BACK to BACK RUPPIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Surfgirl | Monday, November 03, 2003 - 09:19 pm     Enigma2 : Thank you, not true but..ty Rupert on All Star with some of the others listed by Pengoh will make it so worth it to watch!I will spend all my time till all stars airs..coming up with so many differnt scenarios between Rupert and others in my head. Gosh the possibilities.. Rupert and Richard Hatch..wrestling over spear to be the provider..Rupert in skirt..Richard in the buff(and I dont mean the one survivor provides lol) Rupert and Sue Hawk..gee could go either way..all I get on that one is evil laughter in my head.. I totally agree Rupert would look out for Christy! OK now heres a new twist all star brings in third tribe : Big brother castmates..! Rupert and Jun.. he cathes the fish..Jun cooks it, then eats most of it.. lol Rupert and Allison..well just more evil laughter! |
Starshine40 | Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 10:35 pm     From a link on Survivor Fever Survivor: Pearl Islands – In Defense of Rupert by Bruce Barker -- 11/05/2003 Rupert-bashing has been on the rise as we progress through Survivor: Pearl Islands, especially since his shouting match with Jon last episode. Bruce takes a look at what that was all about and provides many reasons why he is still firmly in Rupert’s corner. View Printable version of this article The Rupert-bashing machine seems to be picking up speed every day and it's beginning to look like I'll be among the last dissenting voices. While I fully believe that Rupert is a long shot to actually win Survivor, here are my reasons why I believe Rupert is a lot smarter than many people give him credit for and why he is the best thing to happen to Survivor since Hatch wore his birthday suit: 1. His "day job." I spent over three years working with troubled and psychiatrically disadvantaged teenaged boys myself and can tell you that the most essential skill needed is the ability to do whatever it takes to manipulate the motivations of people. You manipulate school administrators to give the kid more chances, you manipulate the family to get them to do things that are in the child's best interest, and you manipulate the child himself – doing whatever is necessary to get them moving in the right direction. While everyone viewed Rupert’s explosion after tribal council at face value, I saw it as something entirely different. I saw a technique being employed. First, you confront the person strongly and before they have the chance to assemble their argument. The more you can seem on the verge of losing control, the better this technique will work. You then let the person stumble through their first line defenses (which is all they have had a chance to muster) until they begin to repeat themselves. In this case it was a lot of, "Yes I voted against you because so & so said this, blah blah blah." First line excuses are invariably simple and easily discredited. This is why people invariably have backups they assemble when opportunity arises. The next step is to change the volume and tempo of things BEFORE the person gains composure and starts using their backup rationales. If you notice, once Peter Panic began to repeat himself, Rupert got very quiet. He became very conversational. The standard phrases used in this situation are things like, "But can't you see how that view is incorrect?" and, "But surely you can see now that you were making a mistake, right?" Rupert used variations of both of these. End result, the person is incredibly relieved, thinking they narrowly dodged a bullet (or a fist to the chops) and quietly vows to himself to be more cautious and think things through better in the future. They ALSO think twice about crossing the "angry" person again. From a clinical perspective, what you are doing is activating a Fight or Flight response from the person and then, while the adrenaline is really pumping, removing any cause for fear. In the hyperadrenalated state, the person is VERY susceptible to the power of suggestion because they will do almost anything to avoid feeling this way again. In effect, Rupert was attempting to neutralize an enemy. In future situations, Rupert need only throw a cautionary look and Jonny Truefart will recall the main event and have a visceral reaction much stronger than he normally would have. What many saw as a blown temper, I saw as a stroke of manipulation. 2. As I write this, he is the pick of almost 50% of respondents at the Survivor website to win the whole shebang. Now this poll isn't so much an accurate barometer for picking the actual winner as it is a popularity contest. It shows that Rupert is more popular than virtually all the others combined. People STILL love him to death. 3. I don't know what's happening where others live, but on Fridays the topic of conversation at the hospital I work at is Rupert. They are still talking about that brief shot of him sewing his own clothes on the beach. Each week there are new participants in the conversation – people who overheard the week before and got curious enough to start watching. This isn't just a local phenomenon to my neck of the woods though, because Survivor is regularly beating Friends for the first time. Name another show more than five seasons old that is still in a GROWTH phase. Rupert is most definitely one of the reasons for this growth. 4. More than any other contestant, Rupert bought into the "fantasy" aspect of the adventure. As a result more viewers are not only more aware of the backstory this season, but participating in it as well. Think about it. I hear people talking about this season and saying things like, "well, if they were REAL pirates they would..." Yet not once during Survivor: The Australian Outback did I hear a single person say, "Well, the original settlers were convicts you see, and that's why the contestants should..." 5. He's a big lovable teddy bear who wears his heart on his sleeve. This didn't happen overnight and I'm quite certain that he's more than a little aware of how to use this to his advantage. I'm certain of this because I'm built very much like old Rupert and I've learned how to be cuddly and endearing OR intimidating and dangerous, depending on the circumstances. Men my size all do it. It keeps us out of trouble and it keeps us from scaring a lot of the women we meet who might be made nervous by a deep booming voice from a man who looks like a football linebacker. Rupert knows how to go from Pooh Bear to pissed polar bear and back in a matter of moments. 6. Right out of the famous RNO rulebook on how to survive Survivor: If you feed them, they will keep you around. There are a lot of hungry Morgans left. They keep talking about how they miss Rupert's fishing skills. After the merge – and there will be one sooner or later – those Morgans will be easy alliance fodder for the man who fills their bellies. 7. Rupert has created an alliance that right now has a majority in Drake. Any attempt by Johnny Lonewolf to break that alliance is going to wind up with him dealing with reason #1 again. So Rupert is going nowhere until the merge hits. 8. As far as everyone in the game knows, Rupert has been the most honest player to ever appear on the show. While we all watched him sell Shawn down the river three days after promising they would be together, none of the others are aware of this turn of events. It was a secret alliance made by Rupert to save his own sizeable butt when his back was against the wall. For as long as he can hold the sham together, Rupert's word is still the biggest stash of gold on the island. A big factor of Survivor is not how well you lie, it's how well your lies remain concealed, and thus far Rupert has shown a mastery of the art. So there you have it. I'm sure I missed a few things, but Rupert is the sole reason I'm still watching this season and I look forward to Thursday night television now in a way I haven't for a long time. I know that in many eyes, Rupert has become a liability, and I respect that. But I'm still firmly in Rupert's corner and doubt I'll be vacating the turf anytime soon. |
Jami | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 04:25 am     I have been thinking about Rupert's "outburst" all week. I know lots of people think it is a case of him being upset for himself because he was voted for. And I am sure he didn't like that fact. BUt he seems to have such a strong Drake loyalty that I think he may be in "team mode" at this point as opposed to "each man for himself" and was truely thinking how Drake would be injured if he were gone. To me that seems like the best mindset to be in, total team mode, until the merge. As always, I must add, I love Rupert! |
Kep421 | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 08:49 am     *makes herself comfortable on the Rupert turf...unpacks and settles in* |
Landi | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 12:17 pm     starshine, THAT WAS AMAZING! and thank you for helping explain rupert! i love him 100% and hope that he goes very far in this game. he is the first survivor since jeff and colby that i have loved during this game! landi |
Zgoodgirl | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 01:24 pm     Just checking in to say that I'm still loving my Rupert! |
Denecee | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 03:27 pm     Me too! |
Tobor7 | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 03:50 pm     I think that Rupert really makes the show. You feel like you really got to "know" him quickly. From what they show us, he really never talks about any aspects of his real life. |
Donut | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 07:30 pm     rupert just keeps getting better and better... as i have said, he reminds me of some heinous characters that i have known so i have reluctantly appreciated him, but week by week i just keep warming up to him more and more (have i used repeated words enuf in this sentence??) I dont know what the big deal was over him last week, i dont recall anything too bad, but maybe the phone rang and i missed it or something...Is there a transcript of the scene somewhere here? anyways, he was just so sweet this week, almost too much! that was such a great scene with burton and then at the TC he just looked like a jr. high girl being asked to the prom by her crush, when burton handed him immunity. He really is the best thing to ever happen to this show( well except my fave ethan, but he didnt do much for the show.)and tonite was the best survivor episode in a long time.. |
Jami | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 07:32 pm     It was such a sweet look on Rupert's face when Burton did that. I hope Burton won't turn on Rupert (I know he will eventually,,,but not next week or the next). |
Caycaye | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 08:37 pm     I agree Jami and Donut!!! The look of PURE "child-like delight" on Rupert's face made my night!! I LOVE Rupert more every day. He is a PURE spirit in my opinion...with faults and all. He sure has been impressive in the competitions also. He almost beat Burton. I couldn't believe Rupert would have the endurance! |
Kappy | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 12:40 am     Starshine ~ thank you for putting it all so wonderfully! All I could think of tonight when I first saw the immunity sword was how perfect it was going to look on Rupert! And then Burton won it, sigh. But then JP brought up how because Burton already had immunity, he could pass it on and I just knew that Rupert would get to wear it after all! And I'd like to add that I like how he handled the situation with Burton coming back. He did his usual honest approach and it worked. |
Seamonkey | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 01:06 am     He's my favorite Survivor of all time. |
Prisonerno6 | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:40 am     I thought that took a lot of manly guts for Rupert to be upfront to Burton about how he felt. Yes, he may bluster at times, but with Rupert, you know where you stand. |
Texannie | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 06:08 am     I didn't know what to make of Rupert at the start, but he really endeared himself tonite. It broke my heart when he with so much soul bearing honesty told Burton why he voted him out. I too was so touched by his expression when Burton gave him immunity. |
Gidget | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 06:56 am     Just catching up. Loved Surfgirl's post. Rupert is making all us Aquarians so proud. I know in my heart he will not win but he is going to go down as one of the most popular Survivors ever and one of the most popular reality show contestants ever. The fat little boy makes good. BIG Rupert fan. |
Azriel | Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 10:56 pm     Starshine, thanks for posting this. I agree with the author that Rupert never lost control. He was totally in control of the situation and I, too, felt that he was using psychological techniques to manipulate Jon. Noone that is out of control can back off as smoothly as Rupert did and then reason calmly with a person. I think Rupert is 'the bomb' and he's the best Survivor ever. (edited to add, EEPS! I'm sorry. I thought I was in the loves Rupert thread! Can a mod please move me over there? Didn't mean to ruin the mood in the doesn't love Rupert thread. ~backs out sheepishly~) done<el> |
Kep421 | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:13 am     *pats Azriel comfortingly on the shoulder, pulls her back into the thread and whispers in her ear... You are in the loves Rupert thread... |
Puzzled | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:18 am     What I wonder about Rupert's exchange with Burton was, did he really vote him off because of the teasing? I thought it was because Burton is such a strong player, and Rupert was smart enough not to say that to Burton, because then Burton would know Rupert would still be after him. So he pressed Burton's sympathy button. Could be either way, but whatever, he found just the right way to get to Burton. Did he go after Andrew because he was the "leader" of the Morgans, or because, IMO, manipulating Andrew would be almost impossible? |
Catfat | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 02:33 pm     Puzzled, I think Rupert went after Andrew because he could see Andrew as his biggest rival for now. Look at how long Andrew held up that bar with the bags of weights. Rupert knew Andrew was out to win at any cost, he knew Andrew had only three others in his alliance, he knew Lil would abandon Andrew in a heartbeast (just as Andrew had abandoned her), he has Jon and Burton on his side for now, he knew Andrew was not to be trusted under any circumstances, and so on and so on---- All the Drakes plus Lil were eager to get rid of Andrew and stay on the winning side. And after Starshine's great post above, with which I totally agree, I've decided I like Rupert again. Gawd, I am so fickle. |
Kmjm | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 03:17 pm     Starshine, what a great article, which explains so much so well. Rupert was also very good in his confrontation with Burton. But I'm confused- I thought that Burton was voted out when Rupert was in the Morgan tribe. If it wasn't Burton who was it? Burton is also playing much smarter this second time around and doing a great job of integrating himself back into the tribe. His giving of the immunity sword to Rupert was an inspired gesture. Very smart, and cost him nothing. |
Rupertbear | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 03:50 pm     I will never forget the look on Ruperts's face when Burton handed him the sword. It was as if a deposed chieftain had been handed back his claymore...to stand & fight another day. Lol...I know I'm mixing Celts & Pirates here but Rupert bear could be either. This man still rocks!!! |
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