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Alaginger

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 06:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm still trying to figure out the II. If this is indeed an "eliminate your tribemates" competition, I would think several of them would be aiming to get rid of Burton and Jon....and Burton and Jon would be targeting Christa and Sandra........so if Burton is the best shot, he just may not stay around the longest to win II. I'm beginning to wonder if Darrah or Lillian don't walk away with II this week.

Not1worry

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 07:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was in the Army for 5 years. All soldiers have Basic Rifle Marksmanship in Basic Training. That weapon becomes VERY familiar. You can't pass basic training without being about to hit 27 (or 23, can't remember)out of 40 targets that pop up at various distances. You also have to break it down and reassemble it rapidly. After you get to your regular unit, you are supposed to qualify on the weapon every so often, semi-annually if I remember.

However, I don't know if any of that skill will do Sandra any good in this challenge. Being in the army doesn't make you a sharpshooter, but it should make you comfortable with firing a weapon of any sort.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Alaginger. Excellent! Assuming most are gunning for Burton, there are many more chances of his target being hit.

The first time I ever fired a rifle I hit the target close to the center almost every shot. Anyone could have the knack or luck having never tried it before. I am living proof. :)

Seamonkey

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 01:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One word: SONAR!

Seamonkey

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 01:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger, I wonder, though, if they hesitate to eliminate Jon for II.. since the promos stress that he is still getting positive treatment due to his Gramma lie.. or would that only be happening for reward challenge??

Tabbyking

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
now, i have to go read up on sandra. i didn't know she was IN the military, i thought she worked in customer service (not that they have a great department!) for the naval exchange.
my husband was in the military for 22 years and maybe fired a rifle in his basic training, but he couldn't hit the great wall in china from 20 feet with any weapon......

Tabbyking

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmm, after reading her bio, i think she has always been a civilian employee. not that that means she can't fire a gun, but i wouldn't credit any military experience with her being able to use one...well,not unless somebody pissed her off when she was with the POSTAL part of the army.
i'll predict that little ol' darrah has probably shot raccoons at midnight since she was 3, and will shock the hell out of everyone :)


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Alaginger

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sea......I think Lillian may still be suckered in by Jon, and maybe Darrah after the reward challenge get-together........but I don't think Sandra and/or Christa will think one second about eliminating Jon if they get the chance after Burton. That's why I think the final shoot-off will be between Lillian and Darrah at the end of II.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 02:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But last week Sandra didn't really buy into Jon's story, or at least didn't see why it should win him reward, but as soon as she backed Jon's friend up, Lill led the others in baring their fangs and quickly dunked Sandra's hubby.. so I still think some may hesitate to aggressively go after Jon.

You know, I'm now wondering if Lill is really suckered or if she is just aggressively protecting Jon because she wants to fall into F2 with him?

By the way, Tijuana's CBS Chat is up in General Discussions here (and on Realiity.com and CBS) just in case you don't normally browse there.. she seems to confirm the Sandra-Jon alliance and gives some high marks to Sandra for her game-playing skills (from watching the show, not from her own time on the island) and some other insights as well.

Her comments about Lill alone are worth checking out.

Fruitbat

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 04:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great chat. Thanks Sea. Loved her comments about Lil. Confirms just what her detractors are saying.

Texasdeb

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wanted to see more of Ti & was let down when she was planked instead of Burton. I really saw her as the best all around player to come out of Morgan. She confirmed that she was playing a little UTR after the merge to feel things out. OMG - - Lil IS like what we see & is not just being edited to look that way. I was wishing her a tube of desitan when I read her thoughts on the leave TP. LOL...Hope life treats this fine lady well because she deserves only the best.

Alaginger

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 04:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Speaking about Tijuana --- here's what both Sandra and Christa had to say as they placed their votes at TC, and also what Tijuana had to say about that last day during one of her post interviews:

Sandra (votes Happy Birthday Tijuana): You came to our tribe and you tried to delegate what we were going to do and how we were going to do it. Frankly, we're sick and tired of you. By the way, happy birthday. Take care, goodbye, adios.

Christa (votes Tijuana, happy birthday): You're very rude, disrespectful; you like to order people around. And I just don't want you around anymore.

Tijuana (Some Final Words taken off Survivor Insider Episode 10 Yahoo Platinum as reported by Markopolo at SurvivorSucks.com
“It's something that I don't regret, but I would have changed would have been, the last day when I was voted off, I was on my high horse. I was kind of in charge. "We're going to vote out a person." And I told myself in the game to align myself with people and respect people and try to be as honest as possible. By the last day, I kind of forgot those values that I told myself I would keep by my side until the end. And I think it came back to nip me in the butt.”

“I got to the point where I thought, "things are going my way. I can kind of control this setting." And I used the power I had at that time to a point where it hurt me. It's a reality check. It tells you, "You may think you're in control but are you always in control?" And to make sure you're always paying attention and I wasn't doing that the last day. It was the reason why I got voted out. If I had paid attention and not got too high up on my horse, I would have gotten farther in the game, because that was the whole plan. To be in a five-person alliance and be further in the game. I didn't. I thought I was controlling things a little too much. That's probably the one thing that if I had to do it all over again, I would have stayed with who I would say I would be in the game and be consistent with that. And I forgot that the last day of the game.”

Alaginger

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 06:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
For those that need a Rupert fix.......

huh

Tabbyking

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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anyway, i was right about lil ol' country gal darrah being a crackshot.

too bad these gals didn't do the right thing and follow through with dumping burton last week...also, jon looked pretty threatening to the gals on the previews for next week. i'd get rid of him right away. they just really got off track by not voting burton off last week and it's way too late to save things IMO.

Pamy

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rupert looked so pissed tonite!

Alaginger

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 05:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ON THE NEXT SURVIVOR
One castaway sabotages the tribe's survival efforts in order to seek revenge.
Two overconfident castaways celebrate over a feast. But will the celebration last?
Conversations lead to a game of He Said, She Said. But is anyone telling the truth?
When the unexpected happens, everyone is sent scrambling.

Next time, on Survivor....
The guys are feeling cocky.
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Burton: "I don't think they could come up with a decent strategy if they had to."
Jon: "We definitely have an intellectual advantage."
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The girls are getting fed up.
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Sandra: "The sooner we get rid of these jackasses, the better."

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Lil seems to be all upset about something. I'm thinking either by what Sandra has to tell her, or by Burton or Jon winning the RC and taking the other with them which opens her eyes even more.

And it all comes to a head.
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Jon: "I swear on my grandmother. I swear, I swear, I swear. Now, do you guys have a *** plan or not."

I would love to know what Sandra has to say back to him.
sandra

Alaginger

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Supposedly Christa was asked on the CBS Morning Show about Jon's lie, and she said ---

Asked about Jon's Lie she said that she and Sandra didn't believe him but didn't say anything.

So............Sandra doesn't believe Jon's grandmother died, hmmmm??? Wonder what that does to the above picture and next week's show!

Hermione69

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 06:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Should be interesting if Sandra finally calls him on it! Anyone else notice how he keeps swearing on "my grandmother" not "my grandmother's grave." It's funny to me that he seems to make that distinction. He has already told the lie, why try to make it a gray area now? LOL!

I definitely think a man will be going from the cockiness in the previews. I think it will be Burton, especially if he wins the car as TDT is predicting and reinforces their feelings of his being a threat to nail too many challenges. Plus, he is the only one left with a thumbs down on Snewser's scorecard and Snewser has really known his stuff this season. I still think he picked Lill just to throw everyone into a tizzy, LOL!

So I feel like Burton, barring some big surprise, is pretty much a given as the next to go. What I am really looking forward to is the finale because I think the final four boot order is still debatable. We have Sandra who is supposed to be F3, and also a separate spoiler (the betting spoiler) that has her winning. Then we have SP's "confirmation" that it is Darrah and Lil in the F2, which also fits with the Panama Vacation spoiler. And we have the F3 bearded guy per Panama Vacation points to it not being an all women F3. We have everyone's belief that no way would an outcast win, but to hear people talk in last night's episode, Lill is very well liked. So these spoilers don't mesh well together which means anything could happen, IMHO! This is great!

Alaginger

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermie, I have to agree! I think overall, this has been the best Survivor I've watched, and I've watched them all except the first one. All I saw then was the last episode, and I was hooked from that point on.......

I'm just wondering what happens as a surprise that has the players scrambling. If they had planned to oust Jon, and he wins II, then the girls pick Burton instead. If they had planned to pick Sandra, and she wins II (which a lot of the boards are speculating), that may be what makes the girls finally unite and Burton is the "Pick Of The Week"!!! Of course, Burton picked to go and he wins immunity, to me would not be a surprise, since they usually expect him to win anyway as the biggest threat!

Hobbs

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Towards the end don't they do a "Super Immunity Competition" that has parts of all the previous competitions in it? Would that be this week?

Tabbyking

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
this week should be for a car, i think.

Zgoodgirl

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I looked on the CBS site, and when they had the challenge where there was a little of everything, was a reward challenge, and it was for the car. How much do you all want to bet it will be for the GMC Envoy that pops up on their website every 3 minutes, and every other commercial when the show is on the air?

If this helps, the immunity challenge for last year at this time was a huge obstacle course that required a lot of running. They might switch things up though. But they have always given away a car, and they've always had flashback challenges.

Alaginger

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Voice Over:

VO> "Survivor Week, kicks off CBS Thursday...first it's 3 against 2..."
Jon> "We definitely have an intellectual advantage..."
VO> "The women have the numbers, but do they have a plan to beat the boys?"
Burton> "I don't think they could come up with a decent strategy if they had to"
Jon> "They'd be better off scrubbing potatoes and mopping floors"...<laughs>
VO> "Then Sunday...the most anticipated Season Finale...Who will make the final 4?"
Sandra> "The sooner we get rid of these jackasses, the better"
VO> "And who will be the Ultimate Survivor?"
Lil> "What happened to our alliance"?
VO> "All new Survivor Thursday, Season Finale Sunday...CBS Survivor Week"

Alaginger

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pictures from what I believe is RC (for a car???)

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Jon with a disk with a "J". Is he doing a celebration dance with it, or just starting the challenge?
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Is that a key (to a car maybe?)
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Outside the barricade
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stooping to go under the barricade?
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Sandra inside the barricade
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Lil trying to get inside the barricade

Alaginger

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Foreshadowing???

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3 Women, 2 Men (Are they trying to tell us it is now the women against the men???)

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Skull overlay --- Jon on left, Sandra on right, and Burton right in the middle (a target???)

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Burton with a slingshot. This picture was away from the others and doesn't look like it is part of the RC, so I have a feeling this might be a glimpse of the II for next week.