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Neetka

Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 08:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to agree with Tabbyking, I read the title of this thread as an 'I love him' thread rather than the opposite. I'm glad to see that there are opposing views however, since if any reality contestant was universally loved by everyone I'd have to start hating them just to provide some diversity! Now I can safely coast along loving Rupert.

I think way too much has been made of his anger over the spear - he reacted far less agressively than Sandra did to Jon accusation that she wasn't a good swimmer, and had a lot more provacation to be angry. Yeah, he is possessive of that spear but I thnk that is kind of charming - "a boy and his spear, a Love Story" - and I absolutely adore his exhuberant roars! He is the first reality contestant I've really liked in years. However I have no problem with others not liking him, being less than perfect just makes him easier to like in my book!

Sunshyne4u

Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe the Moderators can change the Heading of this Thread, Kittyface.

There is a "Love Rupert" thread already going (with hundreds of posts!)

Lorry

Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Neetka: OMG... how funny!! A Boy and His Spear.. sounds like a porn novel...hahahaha

I agree this should remain a thread for those who are not fans of Rupert... it should not be changed. For those of us that are Rupert fans.. we do have a nice thread going and should take advantage of it.

As for those fans who do not care for Rupert, this is their thread to discuss why they don't care for him...

Catfat

Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 11:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that way too much has been made of Rupert and his "anger" over the spear. For crying out loud, it was the only source of protein food for the tribe, Rupert was doing a great job managing that food supply, and I don't blame him for being put out. I think whats-his-name was just trying to advance his own position by also being a food supplier and ended up losing the only means of providing fish and DIDN'T EVEN GO LOOKING FOR IT. If whats-his name (can't remember) wanted to be useful, he would have trapped crabs, picked fruit or found bird eggs or something, instead of horning in on Rupert's gig.
And not everyone has perfect grooming ("his unkempt beard") perfect diction ("his growling") or a perfect face ("eye expressions"). He is what he is. I would far rather have Rupert for a friend than, say, Jerry Springer's lawyer, with his Perfect Me attitude and what's left of his Armani suit.
I am not in love with Rupert, but I accept him for what he is.

Crazydog

Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 11:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Catfat, you are correct. He is what he is. And I don't like him. Which is why I posted in this thread. The things you quoted back from my post are some of the things that I don't like. Are you saying it is not OK with you if I don't like him for those things?

Whats-his-name (Shawn) DID go looking for the spear. We saw him in the water looking for it. He told Rupert he had been looking for an hour for it. And I disagree that he wasn't allowed to fish. There is no set rule that states that Rupert and Rupert alone is the only one allowed to fish, and that anyone else attempting to do so is horning in on his gig. That's part of the reason why I dislike Rupert - because it's not his spear and his gig alone. Anyone who wants to help the tribe should be able to.

Watching2

Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not that crazy about Rubert because I find his actions and vocal sounds (lol) he makes, annoying. He reminds me of someone who you short of shrink away from when you're out in public because of how loud they are and what they're saying. (Yeah, an old friend of my husband's!)

I did like that he sounded compassionate toward the other tribe when he said they didn't need to "clean them out." Actually, from what he did previously, I would have thought he would have said something to the effect of "ravage them and make it hurt!" LOL

I don't hate him. I'm just not crazy about him. I definitely wouldn't want to stand in line with him waiting for a movie or anything else for that matter. ROFL

Texasdeb

Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As a Rupert fan, I don't have anything negative to say except I sure wouldn't want to run into this guy in a dark ally. (not that I would ever have a reason to be running around in dark allys lol).

Sunshyne4u

Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL TEXAS.....Dark alley indeed!! Or Maybe camping out at the local park, mooching for money!!

There is something about Rupert's looks that reminds me of some homeless guys from here. He has that same scruffy, dragged thru a knothole, potsmoker look.

I dont have a problem with how he looks, mind you. The aggressive personality is what I dislike.

Enigma2

Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 08:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, here I come: 'holier-than-thou.' But judging people on the basis of looks and outward behaviour is a form of prejudice. And I'm as guilty as the next person. And here in NYC we have more than our share of scarey-looking people. I try to get-a-grip on my reactions by mentally dressing them in impecable suits-and-ties or formal dresses –or mentally seeing them naked. It helps to bring things back to reality. You can either see Rupert as a scarey monster or a teddy-bear.

Yesterday, Sunshyne4u, I was observing a homeless guy, pushing his supermarket cart of possessions down the street He was also very busy on his cell phone. (gave me a chuckle...)

Sunshyne4u

Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OH you have me laughing now, Enigma2.

You know that it is very possible that the guy was talking on the cellphone to an imaginary friend?? you know, like kids and their fisherprice phone??

Either that.........or he was an undercover COP contacting his cohorts!! I have a pretty good imagination LOL

Surfgirl

Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 11:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Calling out Sunshyne4u.. I dont love Rupert.. I dont hate Rupert..But Sunshyne.."I dont have a problem with how he looks mind you.. is aggresive personality I dislike".. paragraph before that you stated abour Ruperts looks.."Camping out at local park mooching for money.. Ruperts looks remind me of homeless guys.. Has that Scruffy dragged thru a knothole potsmoker look"LoL You think you where being mugged in a big city guy in Armani would save you heck no would be Rupert chasing mugger down ..Armani would be running the other direction lol

Surfgirl

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 12:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The talk about the homeless guy in NewYork with a cell phone..Well theres a new non-profit program set up.. Homeless people are given prepaid cellphones.. In the hope they will try to contact family members that miss and love and worry about them.. and maybe give the homeless the hope for a new start.Peace all:>

Sunshyne4u

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 01:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Surfgirl....no bashing other posters. I have the right to my comparison of his appearance, which has been commented on in many places by many other posters. Some say "teddy bear" some say "scruffy".
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If I were being mugged in the city, the guy in the Armani would be 'calling the police on his cell', and the guy who looks similar to Rupert would be standing there 'not getting involved' and definitely not chasing the mugger down. That is what big cities are like,IMHO.
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Besides, Rupert works with problem kids......he would know that you cant chase someone down that way, even if they DID just rip off someone. How would you stop em? tackle em to the ground? Then they charge YOU with assault!
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SIGH, I'm off topic! BACK ON TOPIC! I cant wait for Thursday! I want to see how the tribe is adjusting to Rupert! He might not want to go BACK to the other tribe LOL

Teachmichigan

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 02:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gotta' put in my two cents. Don't be so sure Rupert wouldn't chase 'em down. I have a family member (female no less), who chased down a shoplifter (male) while working in a state alcohol store. She not only caught him, she kept him pinned down until the cops came!

If Rupert deals with troubled teens, IMHO he's MORE likely to act on his morals and integrity than others. The best counselors, teachers, etc. for kids are those who WALK THE WALK! (and yup...I see teens, troubled and otherwise, every day of my life...and that's what they respect!)

Enigma2

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Teachmichigan, I'm going to add my three cents. I live in the middle of Manhattan. And experience indicates that heroism and cowardise comes from the most unlikely people. And that today's hero may be tomorrow's coward. The one thing that I have learned is not to judge 'character' by appearance. People are constant surprises.

Kittyface

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks have nothing to do with my dislike of Rupert. I work for a construction company and one of our guys looks very similar to Rupert. He is also one of my favorite people to be around-very sweet and family-oriented (also very shy). (I also call him Mountain Man).

Once again, its Rupert's arrogance that I dislike.

Maris

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You got that right Enigma.

Auntiemike

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 05:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Enigma: are you located anywhere near the 300 block of Central Park West? I have no clue about NYC but do have a cousin that lives there. Just curious.

Teachmichigan

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 05:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Enigma....I think agree with you (I'm not sure if you were agreeing / disagreeing w/ me! LOL). I'm basing my judgment of Rupert on his career, what he's said so far (seems to have a strong sense of honor) and "gut instinct." None of my opinion was based on his looks. (I do like the Hagrid comparison! )

Based on what you said, do you think he would or would not try to help someone who was being mugged?

Enigma2

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 07:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
teachmichigan: I was agreeing (I think). I thought I was 'adding' my penny to your two...

Auntiemike: Let's see. The 300 block is at about 86th Street (a major crosstown street)(Near the Museum of Natural History); I'm just south of 23rd Street (another major crosstown street). I'd say about a 15 min. cab ride from your cousin...

Maris: I am very fond of people who agree with me.

Which brings me to Kittyface: Apologies. (Many folk have been discussing Rupert's looks as being scarey.) But I don't think that arrogant describes Rupert, either. He's just one of those larger-than-life people. He is phyically big. He has a big voice. He seems to think in black-and-whites (no grays here). His opinions seem like more than opinions. But he seems to have the sense to reserve his somewhat dogmatic opinions for the camera-monologues (eg. Rupert was fairly vocal to the camera regarding Burton teasing him and looking at his butt, but, while the incident was actually happening, Rupert had very little to say... He just smiled...)

Maris

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 07:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was watching CNN this morning and Bill Hemmer discussing what was hot and what was in with the entertainment world. His guest said Jessica Simpson is out (dont know who she is) but she said that Rupert from Survivor was IN. I thought it was interesting that Rupert seems to have been raised to a new level for reality show contestant. I just dont remember any reality show contestant who got so much attention outside of the message boards and in the mainstream media. I think he is a great contestant but I am not sure how far he is going to go. I will be interesting to see if he makes it beyond the Hello deli on the Dave letterman show. If Rupert actualy makes it up to one of the guest chairs then you know he was special.

Heyltslori

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 07:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he's hot.

Rupertbear

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 08:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh man....let's hope he never meets the 'other' Rupert at Hello Deli !!!

We all know it's a done deal as far as who's the final two but I am keeping all fingers and toes crossed that he is one of them.

Even still, hope we see him in the movies or a tv series.

And....sorry to put something positive about him on your thread ;)

Sunshyne4u

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is interesting how we all watch the same episode and get different impressions from a scene.
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Enigma quote" Rupert was fairly vocal to the camera regarding Burton teasing him and looking at his butt, but, while the incident was actually happening, Rupert had very little to say... He just smiled...) "
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I'd like to share my opinion. When we watched the scene we thought Rupert was glowering and shooting daggers with his eyes. I wouldnt have really called it "a smile", more like a grimace. If I recall correctly he looked really angry and unhappy and then was raising his eyebrows at the girls who were there as if to say "here we go again!". I have the episode on tape and should rewatch it, my recall may be incorrect.
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Funny how even in real life a crowd can witness something yet have different perspectives on an incident when asked. Must be human nature to put our own biases onto things we see. I know I do.

Enigma2

Monday, October 13, 2003 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunshyne4u: You are correct. I was trying to be brief. And, yes, it was not a friendly smile and your description is more detailed and accurate. But my point was that Rupert did not vocalize his annoyance directly to Burton. He avoided an argument. (He did not behave in an aggressive manner.)