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Webkitty | Friday, October 31, 2003 - 01:07 pm     Thanks Wilson, do you know what the thread was called? I need to know what I'm looking for over there. (sorry to be a pain) |
Redstar | Friday, October 31, 2003 - 01:32 pm     I posted this elsewhere, but here it is again: I believe that the tribes merge next week. As soon as the Ghost Tribe votes on the two returning players, JP is going to tell them they will merge in the morning (or maybe immediately after TC, or even just before the IC). This makes sense - the most effective way to have the returnees mix things up will be to merge immediately so that they are real wild cards in forming alliances. Also, JP said that returnees are "immune at their next tribal council at give them a fair shot at integrating with their new tribe." Note - he said tribe singular. |
Wilsonatmd | Friday, October 31, 2003 - 01:49 pm     webkitty, I think it was in the MB teleconference one. |
Kaili | Friday, October 31, 2003 - 01:52 pm     That's the one that I posted the link to a few posts up, if you want to go there directly |
Alaginger | Friday, October 31, 2003 - 03:48 pm     Press conference notes: Too much interesting stuff in here for me to cut and paste: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/4337.shtml |
Surreal_Badger | Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:41 pm     just looked at snewser's updated scorecard. a couple of things i noticed and want to comment on: WARNING -- THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS AND WILD SPECULATION! unlike trish and lil, burton isn't in both places, even tho' there are spoilers out there that point to him being in the game around the time of the family-visit reward. i am guessing that burton is our F3 man-with-a-beard. i am also thinking that the spoiler stating "jon and shawn are the last to fly out" mistakenly confused shawn and burton (i KNOW i wasn't the only one to get these two confused). so i'm thinking jon, as much as i despise him, is F4. although the family reward spoilers suggest that darrah is around for the visit, i do NOT think she is in the F2. (i know, i know, i'm going against the almighty snewser here, but oh well). i am putting sandra in that spot -- F2 against Lil. if i had to pick an alternate to sandra, i'd choose christa, another person "spoiled" with the family reward visit info. so i'm going against the prevailing wisdom here that morganites dominate the final numbers. instead, i see drakes doing quite well. except rupert. rupert, i'm afraid, will go right before the family visit as mrs boneham made the trip to panama, but came back early. so here's badger's scorecard: 10. andrew (obvious boot for next week. lil will be after him. drake will be after him. t made comments about andrew's position in the tribe. major foreshadowing) 9. rhino (the rupert-christa-sandra voting block will still be in play this week. and lil didn't seem to like rhino, based on interview info) 8. rupert (based on family reward spoiler) 7. tijuana/darrah 6. darrah/tijuana 5. christa 4. jon 3. burton 2./1. sandra/lil |
Redstar | Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 01:18 am     Pictures just posted by Alaginger have made me change my mind - it does appear to be a tribal Immunity Challenge next episode. Ah, well, it seemed like a good idea at the time... |
Reader234 | Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 11:34 am     LOL, I love all the spec... thanks surreal for the list, it helps me! I think if Burton and Lil get back in, they will have to form an alliance to keep themselves in it. I see Jon as being the leader of his alliance, but not making it to the F2 due to his attitude? I dont think anyone would take him because his alliances were so strong, there would be no guarenttees he wouldnt be voted the million based on something we arent watching!! In any case - I'll be watching!! I agree Hermie, that all of the funny foreshadowing on Lil may be just to confuse us (or get the last laugh because she doesnt make it...) but based on the fact Burton is an Eagle Scout, and Lil in scouting, I can make the scene for the only way for them NOT to get booted as soon as they get immunity would have to be an alliance, and we see how strong Jon's alliance is... Do you see Jon winning immunity challenges? I hate his attitude, but I still see how the survivors may view him as getting respect from his alliance thereby gaining their vote if it came down to him vs an outcast. |
Whoami | Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 05:46 pm     In a desperate attempt to keep Rupert in the game as long as I can, I have come up with this PURE speculation (I didn't hear this anywhere, so its not a rumor). Rupert/Sandra/Christa keep their alliance. Upon merging, Andrew joins their alliance (he seems so enamored with Rupert, I could see this happening). This would actually be a very wise thing to do. Andrew doesn't seem to be stupid (just a bad leader). He has to know that Rupert as well as himself would be early targets for getting rid of strong people. He may even be able to bring Rhino into the alliance. This alliance forms F5, then Rupert/Christa/Sandra pick off Andrew/Rhino to become F3. |
Pamy | Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 06:23 pm     Who, I would LOVE to see that happen, which means it wont and Lil will be in the final 2, damn it! I want Christa or Rupert to win, would be happy if Sandra, Andrew or Ryan won....so that means that burton, lil and Jon will be final 3!!! |
Azriel | Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 07:58 pm     ROFL, Pamy, Darrah will be somewhere in there with those 3 in the final four because I don't want Burton, Lil, Jon or Darrah to win. |
Pamy | Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 10:05 pm     oh that's right, totally forgot about Darrah,,,yep she will win!!!! What better pirate to win than the one that works with the dead! |
March | Monday, November 03, 2003 - 11:42 am     Whoami, love your idea. Maybe if we all cross our fingers and toes it will happen that way. |
Wilsonatmd | Monday, November 03, 2003 - 01:31 pm     does anyone remember if Jeff said when the returnees came back if they would be immune for TWO TC's or one? It would make sense if it were two, and the merge wasn't this week, that they would do a Tribal IC, that TC the returnee there would be immune, and then the merge, and the returnees would be immune for the first TC after the merge...otherwise one of them would be gone the first TC after the merge for sure. It also guarantees both the returnees are on the jury at least.... |
Alaginger | Monday, November 03, 2003 - 01:53 pm     It's only for the first TC after they get back in........ and the spoilers say Lillian wins the next IC (for the 11/13 show, I guess) so that would only leave Burton vulnerable, and by then I bet he will have an alliance going....... |
Seamonkey | Monday, November 03, 2003 - 08:43 pm     I desperately want Rupert to win.. or Sandra.. or Christa.. and like, Pamy.. don't see it happening.. the new spoiler/rumor that Rupert will be in All Star Survivor, makes even having an "All-Star" Survivor a bit more palatable tho I think that may well qualify as a shark-jump (not Rupert, allstar). That press conference with Burnett shows just how arrogant he is, sigh. |
Surreal_Badger | Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 06:11 am     just noticed that TDT has reordered their survive-o-meter. some noteables: burton and lil are listed as returnees rupert is now at the top of the list andrew is still at the bottom (oh yeah, he's outta there on Thursday) sandra is in #3 position, with a note that TDT has received info she's in F3 |
Alaginger | Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 08:08 am     Wow.......thanks for the infor SB......Sandra is in F3.........she's a Drake. hmmmm... interesting!!! |
Webkitty | Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 12:50 pm     Remember Trish said in her chat interview that "to this day I hope a Drake will win the million dollars" She knows something. I am starting to think Sandra is the "older female" at F2. I know, she's not old by a long stretch, but the spoilers this season have been wacky. I was reading over at Sucks that they think since Rupert will be in the All Stars this must mean he makes F4. Maybe he is the 'bearded man' at F3! I don't know what to think anymore, like I said, this season has been wacky. Spoiler information has changed like quicksand. Kinda fun in a way, though. |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 02:05 pm     Hey there Webkitty, I agree that Sandra could be the older female. She actually looks a bit older than her age, I think. I think she looks mid-thirties, and isn't she late-twenties? So she does look older, especially compared to Christa who looks so young! I also think if Sandra and Rupert are part of the F3 or F4, it makes sense for Christa to be there with them unless something big happens to change her alliance. Maybe a Drake DOES win this thing. However, I don't necessarily think that Rupert makes it that far just because he is on the all-star. He has had the highest popularity ratings of any Survivor EVER. Even people who aren't even interested in the show are hearing about him, so I think MB would want him regardless of where he finishes. I still think he could be bearded man at F3, but not because of all-star. |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 02:12 pm     Plus, (the wheels are still turning), if Andrew is voted off this week as most of us seem to be thinking, that gives Drake an edge in the merge. Why wouldn't they pagong? Make amends with Burton and keep him happy, keep Jon quiet and obedient, and all of them will make it to the F5 before having to turn against each other. One thing is as sure as sure can be with this stuff- Sandra very likely IS in the F3. TDT would not post that if they were not sure. And that gives weight to a Drake domination after the merge unless Sandra leaves the alliance. |
Hermione69 | Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 02:34 pm     I'm still here, LOL! I just looked at Snewser's site and he has rearranged his Survivometer as well. He seems to be buying into the opinion that Rupert does make it to F4 or F3 because otherwise he couldn't make any media appearances. I still think MB would want him regardless, but I also still think he just may be the F3 bearded man. Snewser has Andrew listed first, then Ryan. They both have thumbs-down. Next is Christa with a thumbs-neutral. She is followed by Sandra, Tijuana, Rupert, Jon, Lillian, Darrah, in that order, and with thumbs-up. He hasn't put Burton anywhere in that scenario. I have trouble picturing the F4 that he currently has (Ruprt, Jon, Lill, Darrah). I don't see how it would play out that way. But substitute Christa and Sandra for Darrah and Lill, well, absolutely. I think if Drake makes it to the F5 intact, Burton would be the first one they get rid of unless he grabs immunity. They would always have in the back of their minds that he really shouldn't be there. The big sticking point, of course, is not that there is an older woman in the F2, but that it is supposed to be the same older woman who came back in the game. But like you said, the spoilers have been wacky this season. It does make it more fun! Or maybe TDT has it wrong in that picture they think shows Lill with Morgan, and Lill goes to Drake. Then she could be the F2 female, and the only one wrong in the scenario would be Darrah. |
Surreal_Badger | Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 06:45 am     i'm feeling well pleased with my earlier post listing my top 10 choices. especially now that snewser and tdt have revised their list. i do remember jon making a comment in episode 2 (?) -- the one where he and sandra had the fight. he said he was SURE she (sandra) wasn't going to win the million dollars. let's hope this little quote was put in their to prove that sucka wrong. |
Webkitty | Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 12:57 pm     Hermie, maybe Rupert and Jon have a hidden alliance. When Rupert came back to Drake, I remember watching the way he interacted with Jon and thought, these two have something going on. If you watch Rupert's CBS video audition, he says he played a 'Survivor' game at his local fair? He went all the way but in the end lost the votes because he took the wrong person to F2. He will remember this. Jon is perfect F2 candidate. Both tribes think he is obnoxious. That 'fight' they had seemed staged. We only saw a few seconds of it. When Rupert said he wanted to kill, he seemed like he was already over it and was being promted by the cameraman. Darrah has shown she can adapt. She was first alligned with Nichole, but quickly realized that was a losing deal. She talks about this on the Insider that first week. She is now in an alliance with Ryan and Ti. If Ryan goes at the merge, she will have to adapt once again. If Lil returns to Morgan, it would seem likely that Darrah (and Ti) would hook up with Lil. So, we get the the final 4 with equal numbers. 2 Drake, 2 Morgan. Anyway, after all that, I don't think its going to be R/J/L/D. I think that "spoiler" of Darrah is iffy. She is too utr. I understand that if she doesn't SAY anything there isn't too much MB can do, but still.....Just that she gets a family visit and the girl who made F2 was supposed to have a male name? Please. What about Christa? Chris. Ya know? This season has had bigger than life characters. All of them, really. Except for Darrah. Even Ryan S. had more to say and more of a personality than Darrah has. It would be ironic after such a season full of rich characters, and never before twists, that the most utr player EVER wins. She makes Vee look like Miss Personality! lol. Watch her win now SR, I remember that confessional of Jon's. It has to mean something. Sandra makes F4 AT LEAST. He said he had an alliance with her, but she wasn't going to make the F4. AND, he had a mil that said she doesn't win. ummmmmmmm I think Jon will go farther than anyone thinks. Ok with me, he is entertaining. I can't stand the boring ones, no matter how 'nice' they might be. I'm thinking, Sandra,Rupert,Christa,Lil for F4. I think Jon's words will come back to haunt him. HE will go at F5. Close, but no cigar. No way can Lil win this. I can't see any of the jury giving her the million over a non-Outcast. I can also see the rest bringing Lil along to the end because they know this. IF Rupert only makes F3, then whoever wins the last II challenge, must choose to bring Lil over Rupert. They would know Rupert would probably win. They won't pull a Colby this time. So, Lil/Sandra or Lil/Christa F2. |
Surreal_Badger | Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 04:17 pm     webkitty, i think you're right about bringing jon and/or lil along into the finals with the knowledge they are completely beatable. neither of these individuals pose a physical threat either. . . another reason to KEEP them after the merge. another reason why sandra too is probably safe for a while. i'm not too confident that ol' rupert makes it to F3. there's the family visit spoiler to reckon with, as well as the fact that he was thumbs-down for snewser since the get-go. (but wait, as i type this, i seem to remember jon also being thumbs-down?! and snewser seems to think johnny fairplay goes pretty far in the game. . .). i interpreted that fight with jon last week as a "scary" side of rupert, prepping viewers for his departure. i guess we'll see how his editing changes in the next few weeks. (again, i say andrew's gone tomorrow, rhino next week, and rupert week after -- lots of time to make the viewers (I won't say "us") want to see rupert get planked). and webkitty, i've got to agree: give me interesting characters (like sandra), even give me "bad" characters (like jon), over boring ones (like Darrah) ANY DAY. |
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