Someone Explain Tonite's Votes
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Someone Explain Tonite's Votes
Lorry | Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 09:31 pm     What the hey??? Wow, they were set to vote out either Rupert or Christa... then they ALL vote to boot Ryan O??? What did I miss??? |
Wilsonatmd | Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 09:58 pm     Most likely what happened was Ryan knew he was gone 6-3, so he went to the other Morgans and told them to vote for him so the vote would be unaminous. This way, The other Morgans thus wouldn't expose their strategies because if you are caught on the wrong end of a vote and the others KNOW FOR SURE you were on the wrong end, you can be in big trouble next time around. Why make a vote know know in the end is useless and would only hurt you later on? |
Spear | Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 11:10 pm     I guess Christa/Sandra/Rupert and Burton/Lil/Jon didn't want to make a move too early against any Drake members and let Ryan/Tijuana/Darrah stay intact. Now that Ryan is gone, either team is in a better position to be in a five-person alliance with T/D. I don't think Christa/Sandra are really serious about getting rid of Rupert at this point -- they need a loyal third member for now. |
Watching2 | Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 11:45 pm     My husband and I were totally amazed at how stupid they were to let Ruben win immunity tonite. Like my husband said, they missed their chance since Ruben is good at the physical things and it was a good opportunity for them to even get a chance at voting him out. I bet there was a lot of editing to throw us off. It will be interesting to hear what Ryan will have to say in his interviews. Darn... my eye candy is gone. LOL |
Caycaye | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 12:49 am     No...you guys...I have Survivor Insider and I got to watch the WHOLE tape of Tribal Council voting....EVERYONE voted Ryan off...Ryan voted for Christa and said she was just a "plain beeoottch"... Burton voted Ryan out, saying it was "purely strategic"...and Burton said..."believe me...I would much rather have you still here than some of the idiots I am stuck with now"... Rupert voted Ryan out with regret, saying he really admired him, but it was an alliance decision... Lil voted Ryan out, but thanked him for his kindness to her on the last 3 days...she will miss him Sandra voted Ryan out by saying that that she was beginning to get to know him, and realized he was a "good" guy, but that the alliance decided how she had to vote, because Ryan was a STRONG competitor and threat... Christa voted Ryan out by saying to Ryan..."You are the RUDEST, MOST DISRESPECTFUL man I have EVER met...soooo negative!" Then Jon wrote "Rhyno" onhis card, and wrote under it something like...gore,gore,gore (stupid) THEN....DARRAH voted Ryan out...she said..."Ryan I am voting you out, mainly to give you this message....."Thank you for respecting me and respecting the fact that I have a BOYFRIEND...I will miss you"... THEN....TIJUANA voted Ryan out by saying that he BETRAYED Tijuana, and now she was paying him back...but earlier, in the past, they had a great time together, and she was glad to have met him. THE VOTE WAS 8-1 to oust Ryan. Maybe I missed something, but how is it that Tijuana feels betrayed by Ryan??? Maybe they edited that out!! LOL Also...tell me you all noticed how "sweet" and nice the voting cam messages wwere from everyone...including Sandra, who always liked to "say something mean"...LOL and Jon did not as much as SKIP up to the platform...much less swagger and act up. Everyone is thinking about that jury vote! LOL |
Caycaye | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 12:51 am     OOPS...sorry...I misread Lorry...I thought you were under the impression that the vote was 6-3...I should have read your post better before writing in...anyway...maybe some of my info will be useful to someone else. Sorry... |
Texannie | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 05:47 am     He's gonna be the first member of the jury..will he see those nice messages? |
Kellannie1 | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 08:38 am     I liked all the nice messages they left for him. Yes, he is the first member of the jury, but I think it had more to do with the fact that Ryan had not done anything to give them a reason to say anything mean. I don't understand why Tijuana said he had betrayed her. I wonder what happened. I hate editing!! LOL As far as what Jon wrote when he voted, that's another one of his wrestling references. There is a wrestler names Rhyno who's finishing move is called the gore. |
Jagger | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 08:49 am     I also can't beleive they let Rupert win immunity, this was their perfect chance to blow him out of the water. Than again all we see is the edited version of the show, who knows what kind of alliances are really being formed? I sure do wish they would have live feeds for this show also. |
Squaredsc | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 09:07 am     ti also targeted rhino at ic and i wonder why. |
Zules | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 09:10 am     Okay, I watched the show last night but what did I miss? Why were Ryno and Christa so p.o.ed at each other? |
Pamy | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 09:13 am     Maybe it involves the big lie! |
Pantageas | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 09:18 am     I just don't get it. Rupert makes EVERYONE nervous. EVERYONE thinks he's a threat. I even told my wife he was probably gone before this week's show even started because I knew it was time for one of the "blocking" immunity challenges. You know the ones - where the choice isn't so much who actually WINS immunity as deciding who the tribe members do not WANT to get it...? Just as everyone designated Ryan to DEFINITELY not have it from the first, Rupert should have been the second player to take a seat. If he bellows about betrayal, just tell him he wins too much. Have Burton take the third seat for the same reason. Then get rid of Rupert. Rupert gone made sense for: Tijuana, Darrah and Ryan - they keep their triad intact Burton and Lil - keep their position of playing "swingers" between Morgan and Drake tribes of fairly equal strength. Those five votes were all they needed to remove Rupert, and neither Crista or Sandra would have been TOO disappointed to see him gone either. And we all know Jon mutters "anyone but me" under his breath in the shelter all night long. Instead, they GIVE him an immunity. Even though he knew all the answers, this wasn't a challenge where you can WIN. You have to be GIVEN the win...and they did. I just don't get it... |
Ninja_157 | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 09:21 am     Hmmm...I am wondering about Ti and Darrah's votes. Didn't Savage say on Letterman that there was some hanky panky on the island? Of course he was cut off before he could explain. Maybe there were hurt feelings. I am sorry to see Ryan voted out, but at least he is on the jury. |
Elle | Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 09:06 pm     i love rupert, but i couldn't believe my eyes when they ALL gave rupert the immunity callenge! is he that much of a bully that they fear him? or are they just not ready to starve? |
Wilsonatmd | Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 09:45 pm     Here's a good analysis of the situation. This writer has done many articles on the strategies of the show, and he's good at it. |
Caycaye | Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 12:04 am     OK.....here is how I have it figured out from the Insider, and from an interview Ryan just did for a CBS affiliate that I read on Survivor Phoenix (I think). Ryan explained the tiff with Christa over the missing oranges. I explained that in another thread. It was a clip on the Insider. He STILL maintains that Christa blamed HIM for eating the orange, when in his reality, Christa ate it....whatever....They exchanged words and were still mad at Tribal Council. It sounded like Ryan regretted calling Christa names in the voting booth, but he was angry and would have to "live with it", he said. The thing with Tijuana feeling betrayed, according to Ryan's interview...as far as Ryan can figure it, was that when he heard Ti say angrily that he betrayed her, the only thing he could think of was that Darrah must have told Tijauna that there was a 3-way alliance since the beginning between Darrah, Ryan and Andrew that did not include Ti. He wasn't aware that Ti was upset with him. He had an idea though, when Ti went after him in the immunity challenge game. He didn't know for sure why until he saw the show last week. Obviously Ti said she was betrayed by Ryan because she felt like she was going to be the expendible one from Morgan, and her feelings were hurt. Ryan also said that HE had feelings for Darrah, but she was not interested, because she had a boyfriend. He was still attracted to her, and he hopes Darrah wins, even though he was surprised that she voted to oust him also. He said that her vote hurt him, but he understood she had to protect herself. They really did a bad job of editing last week I think. Even with the Insider...things didn't make sense, until I read the interview. |
Caycaye | Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 12:10 am     Under the thread A Little Island Tickle & Flirt Is my posting of the clip from the Insider about Ryan and Christa's argument over the mystery oranges! |
Caycaye | Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 12:34 am     Sorry....and the Interview with Ryan that I got so much info from was on Survivornews.com It was a CBS chat. (I had said Survivor Phoenix) |
Lorry | Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:29 am     Caycaye, we are presenting you with the "Best Little Survivor Detective Badge"... now if only I knew how to post those cute clip art thingys...lol I really have to thank Caycaye, and those of you here on these boards that take so much time and effort to dig up the latest news about the show. It really makes viewing the show so much better for all of us... and Caycaye and all those (too many to name) that do this for our benefit. A huge "hug" and and "tons of thanks" to all of you. Btw, no matter how I think one way, these brilliant deductions, awesome speculations, and tid bits of info... well, it gives me so much to think about. Thanks!!! |
Zules | Monday, November 17, 2003 - 08:25 am     Thanks for solving the tiff mystery Caycaye! Does anybody know who really did eat the oranges? |
Immunity_Man | Monday, November 17, 2003 - 01:14 pm     It is blatantly obvious to me that every Survivor currently playing the game is deathly afraid of Rupert. Thhey handed him immunity. They know he's the biggest threat, but yet they tip-toe around him. He really has them all scared to death of him! Do you remember the tongue-lashing he gave John for voting against him weeks ago? Jon thought he was going to hit him. They all agree he's a threat, but I think they're scared of what he might do if he finds out they want him gone and he somehow escapes being voted out. |
Enigma2 | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 03:12 am     Immunity_Man is right. Everytime anyone tries to instigate a move against Rupert, they wind up being the losers. (Remember poor Trish). As soon as Rupert gets-wind of any defectors from his inner 'club,' they are 'dead meat.' |
Teachmichigan | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 04:13 pm     Ok, no one has "disputed" this yet, so I'll be the first. I watched the Insider clips, and yes, Darrah did mention her boyfriend and then thanked Ryan for respecting her. After listening to her vote 3 times and observing facial expression, nonverbal, etc. I think she was being sincere...I don't think it was anything suggestive. It sounded as if Ryan may have made a pass, Darrah told him she was taken, and he backed off. End of story. JMHO. I think Darrah went with the majority to try to avoid being targeted in the next vote. |
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