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Starshine40

Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
According to excite.com (my personal page) the title of episode 12 is "Mutiny", no details yet.

Pamy

Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sounds like it goes along with JP saying that alliances flip flop the rest of the game

Tntitanfan

Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since mutiny is when the sailors take the ship over from the officers, I am HOPING this means one of the guys who seem to be calling the shots - Jon, please be Jon - goes this time!

Seamonkey

Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 08:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with YOU, TNT!!

I don't want him to win and I also don't want him to guilt trip his way into winning the vehicle either.

Hermione69

Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When I read this title, my very first thought was they will finally rise up against Burton. He has kind of appointed himself the new leader. He and Christa are next to go (currently- that could change as Tijuana came out of nowhere!) on Snewser's scorecard and it will likely be Christa episode 11, and therefore Burton next. Although, TDT seems to be tentatively thinking that they are finally setting up for a Jon boot for this episode, so he could also be the one going. Maybe all his flip flopping finally catches up to him. I do think it is going to be one of the guys. That is my early guess, anyway.

Wilsonatmd

Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well Burton or Jon HAVE TO GO in this episode, as most of the spoilers have three women in the final four, and the final man going in third place. here are two thoughts on this.... because if Jon made it to the final three, I would think that he'd be taken to the finals because he's the person who would probably lose to everyone left---EXCEPT LIL. If the Darrah-Lill final 2 is true, I think Lill might have a reason to dump Jon because she thinks she has a better chance with Darrah in the final vote, or-more likely- she wanted to give two Morgans in the final two, which would be a tremendous comeback after being down 8-5. SO if Jon survives this ep, look for Lill to win the last IC if the F2 spoiler is true.

The other scenario, I think (Burton going in third), is that Darrah wins the final immunity and has the two Outcasts in the final three, and thinks Lill would be easier to beat in the final vote than Burton would be.

Based on the info we know right now, I'm leaning towards Burton going this ep...it wouldn't be a "mutiny" if Jon went, but could be if Burton went at this stage.

Tntitanfan

Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A friend of mine in Maryville, TN, belongs to a group that watch Survivor together every Thursday - or Wednesday - night! And have a great meal as well, let me add. When they drew survivors, she got Darrah and Lil and thought sure she would be the first player eliminated in their group - just goes to show you never can tell!!

Pamy

Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That sounds like a fun group Tnt!

Fruitbat

Monday, December 01, 2003 - 05:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I see that too Wilson. Burton is the only player where the word Mutiny would make sense. No one else is being edited to have control right now.

Alaginger

Monday, December 01, 2003 - 06:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Mutiny refers to Burton, also.......however; by now the girls should realize that Burton also means Jon!!! It is the two guys that are in control....especially with Jon saving Burton's hinney the week Tijuana got booted. So, I think Burton is the target, and if he wins immunity, Jon is the target. The guy in F4 is described as having a beard.......so right now I tend to think that person is Burton and Jon goes this week of Mutiny! Do you really think Jon would be described as a guy with a beard when he has all of that curly blonde hair showing and a small physique that could be described a lot easier than a guy with a beard?

Konamouse

Monday, December 01, 2003 - 07:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i get the feeling that Lil isn't calculating enough to think about final two (as far as with whom she would have the best chance to win).
she strikes me as the type (or has been edited as such) who rides on the coattails.
if she won that final (usually an endurance challenge, so very low chance for her to win) immunity, she would bring along someone with whom she promised to bring, regardless of her chances to win against that person.
'squeek'

Alaginger

Monday, December 01, 2003 - 11:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ooooooohhhhhhh Konamouse.......that's right. The last challenge is usually endurance, so Burton would probably win that "hands down". Now I'm thinking Burton goes the week of mutiny and Jon gets to do the endurance and gets whooped.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 05:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think so too, Burton is gone.

Alaginger, the person who described the F3 man was latin. Typically that culture does not wear beards. It would be a defining feature from another viewpoint. They also could have seen him with his hair covered.

Alaginger

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good points FB ........ Yep, I think Burton is toast next week!!!

Wilsonatmd

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 10:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the CBS website stuff for ep 12:

-One castaway sabotages the tribe's survival efforts in order to seek revenge.
-Two overconfident castaways celebrate over a feast. But will the celebration last?
-Conversations lead to a game of He Said, She Said. But is anyone telling the truth?
-When the unexpected happens, everyone is sent scrambling.


So I think Sandra might be dumping the fish again....I think either Burton or Jon win the RC (which is probably the car, since is the last one, and they're probably doing the tailgating dinner with a guest as part of it like last year)..."the unexpected" is one of two things to me:either it forshadows the Burton boot, or the next target (Sandra I think, because it's the last person in that former pair) unexpectedly wins immunity and they have to alter the game plans....In a case like that, I think Sandra might go to Darrah and Lill and tell them Burton is too dangerous to keep, and Jon would never win a jury vote. Lill finally realizes that Burton would dump her before final 2 (probably after Burton wins the RC and takes Jon along), maybe even that TC, so goes along with Sandra's plan.

In this scenario, I think Jon would then win the first IC in the finale, and get Sandra booted as revenge (the other 2 agree to go along with him to avoid a possible Purple Rock O' Death scenario), then Darrah wins the last IC and decides that Lill, being an Outcast, is a better person to take with her to the final than Jon.

Seamonkey

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 11:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that helped push Christa out.. she and Darrah have emerged as the female threats to win immunity.. Darrah was immune..

Burton should be next.

Oh, please don't make the celebration Jon and Lill AGAIN.. that's gotten really really OLD.

The long paragraph above sounds quite plausible for the ousting of Burton.

The next, hard for me to contemplate since I really want Sandra to win..

Stilllurking

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 03:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Again I am confused. I know that one of the men have to go this week but why is everyone thinking it is Burton? Hasn't Jon been running the boots since forever? And also there is that statement everyone said was foreshadowing; Jon saying Sandra wouldn't get near the million dollars. Has every one on this board flip fopped, LOL?
Mutiney seems to me would be against Jon, who has been running the show. Also, weren't there many discussions about Jon being the last one to fly out? And then there is that preview of Jon swearing on his granny over and over.
As I said, I am so confused but isn't there a chance that the mutiney could be against jonny fairplay doesn't play fair?
Well this post made no sense due to sleep deprivation but i'll post it anyway so you can all get a good laugh. BTW, even with everything I said above, I think Burton is toast. Just thought I would bring up some of our past theories. LOL

Pamy

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 05:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Sea! I can't stomach much more of Lil and it pisses me off she keeps getting rewards!
She shouldn't be there! She annoys the hell out of me!

Alaginger

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 06:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel pretty sure it is Burton and Jon that celebrate the Reward. "Two overconfident castaways celebrate over a feast" plus in the voice over it says the men are feeling cocky!!!

This is the line that is getting me!
"When the unexpected happens, everyone is sent scrambling."
I'm wondering if the women make an agreement to boot Jon, and the little sucker unexpectedly wins II.......which causes the women to have to change their minds and boot Burton instead. Either way, I also think Burton is toast this week!

Spikefan

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Excellent idea Alaginger. That line was throwing me too and I hadn't thought of Jon winning II as an option! Not enough coffee in my system yet! hehe!

Alaginger

Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 05:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just to make sure everybody knows:

Episode 12 Thursday, 12/11 - regular time 8EST
huh
Last Episode/Finale and reunion Sunday, 12/14
2 hour show followed by live reunion - 8EST

Fruitbat

Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Alaginger. The scrambling could be weather or the tide or something unrelated to the game, because IC is always an unknown. Usually there is a second plan in place, especially at this point.

Hermione69

Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't remember what they called the last episode for S6, but I remember for S5 it was "Slipping Through Your Fingers" or something like that and I was so excited because I thought it meant Brian would not win, but it totally was related to that Final IC. Anyone remember what the title for the finale of S6 was? I'll go look it up....

Hermione69

Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The title for the finale of S6 was "... And Then There Were Four."

BOR-ING!

But defintely shows the S7's finale title could go either way. It could be the IC like S5's was, it could be something else like S6's was. Well, that certainly narrows it down! LOL!

Webkitty

Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger, I agree. I think the unexpected thing that happens is that Jon wins the IIC. This would tie in with Sandra's comment to Darrah last episode that Jon is...just like, a girl. He hasn't even been close to winning an IC.