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Archive through November 11, 2003
Starshine40 | Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:20 pm     copied from Survivornew.net Jeff Probst on Haber & Erin There is an incident ...an event that one Survivor is going to regret for a long time and that is very close to happening. MoreMusic104 Tuesday, October 28, 2003 Click for external link Highlights... Jeff: He broke up with his girlfriend. He's a single man again but not without a good time. Morgan comeback: Drake throwing the challenge has cost them dearly. Jon: Jon is the guy to watch. He's snaky Osten: Osten has an interesting next 3 days. The next episode is pretty interesting for Osten. But the next episode is HUGE. So much happens. You either going to love it or say OMG. Lie: the lie hasn't happened. You would not have any idea about the lie but he wouldn't answer whether we already had hints or evidence of it happening yet. It will not change the complexion of the game... it's just the greatest lie ever told on Survivor. Regret: And there is an incident ...an event that one Survivor is going to regret for a long time and that is very close to happening. Twist: The biggest twist ever is happening this week. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2000-2003 SurvivorNews.net Not affiliated with CBS, SEG, or Mark Burnett. Although they probably read it everyday with their morning coffee. |
Stilllurking | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 04:36 am     Thank You Star! It sure gives us something to speculate about. I'm probably way off but I think the regret has something to do with how it will effect this persons home life versus their time on the Island. Maybe some hanky panky goes on w/ 2 of the survivors and 1 of them is married! LOL That sure would cause some long term regret. Also sounds like "snakey Jon" figures out a way to stay on the Island for a few more days and uses that time to start all kinds of division and controversy on the Island. Osten, oh Whiner Osten. Maybe he really does quit. okay, I know my speculating is going way down hill but I just can not figure this Survivor out and I'm loving it! I won't even speculate on the big lie, it seems we've been doing that since episode 1, and I still can't figure out the who, what or where of it! Webkitty, where are you, sure could use some of your wonderful speculating on this. |
Surreal_Badger | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 06:35 am     OK, i have nowhere near the speculative talents of webkitty, but here're my 2 cents: the twist -- well, this is obvious: bringing back ghosts the lie -- in an interview, JP said that the lie was "brutal, brilliant," "totally suckered him in" and made him say "m----rf----f!" I'm going to deduce that the liar is a man, since i can't imagine using that word to describe a woman. who lies? well, my initial thought would be jon, although i can't imagine JP being suckered into anything jon says. maybe burton? maybe rupert? maybe andrew? (sorry folks, but i don't even want to go into the osten-is-faking-it-he's-really-actually-brave-and-strong -- i don't buy it.) i can't really think of a lie that would be "the biggest ever on survivor" that wouldn't change gameplay?!? the regret: JP was asked if this was similar to the Ted/Ghandia incident, and i believe he said something like, "well at least with that one could you could pretend to have been sleeping." that sounds to me like a deliberate, wide-awake incident. perhaps a racial slur? i wonder if someone (rhino?) says something about osten? |
Jeep | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 07:34 am     Didn't Jon say in his bio that he wanted to be the first contestant to have sex on Survivor? Maybe the regret invloves sex with an "attached" person, not necessarily married, but with a significant other. That would surely cause some regrets.....and on national TV, too. I can't imagine anyone there wanting to be with Jon, though. LOL |
Webkitty | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 08:07 am     I posted my thoughts on this in a thread with the same name, in the Survivor general discussion area. I wasn't paying attention, and didn't realize there were two threads with the same title. One here and one over there. Sorry! (its too long to go into again, lol) |
Auntiemike | Friday, October 31, 2003 - 01:54 pm     Jeep: LOL!!!!! My imagination doesn't stretch that far either! ;-) |
Tweety | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 06:02 pm     Looks like, based on tonight's episode, The big lie is by Burton, that he will tell no more lies and/or not lie to Lil. |
Tasia | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 06:43 pm     Awww I hope not Tweety, I was all ready to give him a second chance after the way he was shown tonight. |
Alaginger | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 07:06 pm     Did it sound to you guys that Burton was making a pact with Lillian to take her to the top with him? I wasn't sure if he was just trying to get her to vote with the Drakes against a Morgan, or if he was offering to go to the top 2 with her. |
Csnog | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 07:29 pm     At TC of the outcast tribe Burton told all of them that if he was voted back in he would "NEVER" lie to the other person voted in. Mmmmmmmmmm |
Pamy | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 09:29 pm     They sure made an issue about telling the truth tontite, i think the lie is next wk |
Seamonkey | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 10:25 pm     IF the lie was tonight.. I think it was Burton implying to Lill that the two of them would go to F2. Maybe later one of them works to dump the other.. And just to anwser a question asked during spoiling.. it was Jon who was working on Rhino, I think, talking about booting Rupert. Meanwhile Sandra and Christa, in the water were talking about booting Andrew and keeping the "two girls" which I assume meant Darrah and Tijuana. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 10:28 pm     If he hadn't said we hadn't seen the lie yet I would say that it was when Andrew said he would tell Lill how the vote was going to go, the week Lill was voted out.. and tonight that came back to bite him, hard, in the butt and he got booted.. Regret!! |
Csnog | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:22 am     I now think we have seen all three. The twist= comback of booted players The regret= Osten quitting Now the lie= Burton tells Ghost tribe he will never lie to whoever else goes back. We just need to watch the lie unfold as Jeffie said everyone would see as it happens on the show. |
Azriel | Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:55 am     Over at Survivor Sucks they have a thread that talks about Burton and might have something to do with 'the lie'. link It seems that Burton Roberts competed in Mark Burnett's Eco-Challenge. He competed under the name John Burton, but it turns out that Burton's full name is actually, John Burton Roberts. It's pretty strange that he is in two MB shows under different names. Makes you go hmmmmmm. |
Missy2 | Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 12:35 pm     I thought it went like this: The Twist: bringing back past players. The Lie: when Andrew lied to Lil. The Regret: Andrew was voted out, thus Regret for not being honest with Lil. |
Hermione69 | Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 01:11 pm     But remember, this lie makes JP go, "Motherf****r!" He has implied that no lie like this one has ever been told before. Nothing we have seen yet would cause that kind of reaction from JP. The lie has not happened yet, IMHO. The twist is obviously bringing the other players back, and I think the regret is probably Osten quitting. Osten may not be regretting it on the surface in his post-show interviews, but it ticked JP off and he is not one to let it slide. He probably believes Osten regrets it deep down. |
Pamy | Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 02:10 pm     I agree Hermie, regular game playing lies would nt make JP say MF-er. I think the regret is MB's for choosing Osten over my husband!!!!! |
Kappy | Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 07:29 pm     Azriel ~ I just saw this over on the other thread and started a new thread about it on the general discussions board. I apologize for not seeing you post it earlier. But I whole-heartedly agree with you about the "HMMMMMMMMMM" considering he just happens to be let back into the game of Survivor and in primo condition no less. |
Ark | Monday, November 10, 2003 - 09:46 am     One other thing about the lie. Jeff said that no one knew that the lie was a lie and he thinks they'll only find out by watching the show. Lil knew that what Andrew said was a lie. She didn't have to wait to see the show to figure it out. She know as soon as Jeff snuffed her torch. |
Ilovethecoach | Monday, November 10, 2003 - 01:08 pm     Is there a chance that the lie is Lil and her role as a scout master? Couldn't she have worn the uniform in order to fool the other castaways into believing she had survival skills? |
Reader234 | Monday, November 10, 2003 - 01:18 pm     Ok, starch defender here. Lil is a Scoutmaster, her troop posts for her when she comes close to being flamed at Sucks. Being in Scouts myself, I've posted many times to some of the things scouts brings to Lil, I will agree she doesnt have "Survivor" skills. She has Scouting skills. I agree Hermione with your thoughts on the Twist, and Regret. Interesting thoughts on the lie being with Burton... |
Alaginger | Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 01:56 pm     Quoted from T.V.Guide --- Could this be the big lie, because Savage is just now telling us about it, so that means he saw it on the show? Would that make JP say "What the M____F____?" _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Lill claimed she aligned with the enemy because Savage didn't warn her of her impending eviction. That's rubbish, Savage groans. "Here's the truth," he insists. "Right before that tribal council, I went up to her and I gave her a hug and a kiss on the cheek and told her, 'We love you, Lill. Sorry about this decision. It's not personal, it's a strategy.' And she said, 'Savage, I understand. You do what you need to do.' "She definitely knew she was going," he adds. "I have no idea why she keeps saying that I didn't [tell her]. Let me just say this, it's a sad state of affairs when the attorney is the one telling the truth and the Boy Scout troop master is the one telling the lies." |
Puttergirl | Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 03:10 pm     I could see Jeff saying "What the M___F___?" over that if Lil was talking about it constantly like it seems she might have. After hearing over and over from Lil about how Andrew didn't warn her, ad nauseum, I can see being shocked to find out he did. Jeff also said that the lie comes back to hurt this person. If Lil ends up as one of the final 2, and Andrew tells everyone that he warned her and she is lying, it will hurt her in the final vote. |
Pamy | Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 03:14 pm     but he also said the lie was brillant. I am not sure if that qualifies. I still don't think we have seen the lie yet. I really can't see JP saying MF-er in regards to Lil. Sourpuss, yes, but MF-er? No |
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