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Maris

Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 07:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It is not whether he is arrogant but whether his fellow tribemates might perceive him as arrogant. I think they will start getting annoyed with him if he cant keep his temper in when they make mistakes. He seems to lay blame very easily and that is not the way to win friends and influence people.

I also think that being overly confident can spell doom on survivor. If he doesnt start laying low I can see him being kicked off the island very soon after the merger.

Lorry

Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe arrogance is a requirement for winning the game. Look at Richard Hatch, Jenna, and the other winners. We all thought they were arrogant.

I think what happens is that we look for the good and the bad in each player... sometimes with a player like Jon, we see both good and bad, sometimes more bad then good.

With a player like Rupert, well, we have nothing else but his being somewhat arrogant to point out.
If being arrogant is his only fault, that we have seen so far, then he is still the cream of the crop, IMO.

I agree that arrogance can lose a game, but it can also win the game as we have seen in the past. Rupert is out to win a million dollars.... he has to do what he has to do... and he's doing it well so far. I hope he can see the fine line and not cross it.

Lorry

Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 09:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bachelor Villainess Speaks!

Survivor's Trish Dishes Rupert
by Angel Cohn

Raising 10-year-old twins is tough, but battling her tribemates on Survivor: Pearl Islands was even tougher for Maryland mom Trish Dunn. The 42-year-old was voted off after she tried to form an alliance against the Drake tribe's resident fisherman, Rupert.

"I think that Rupert absolutely should have gone," Dunn tells TV Guide Online. "It was a very good time for him to leave the game, because it was before we went into the merge. He was just so dominant in both tribes, and he was just so vocal about how much the other tribe liked him and how he could manipulate anybody on the other tribe."
A few telling moments made Dunn feel threatened by the self-proclaimed pirate. "Rupert once said to me, 'When I came back from Morgan, if Burton wasn't gone, I would have opted to stay with them,'" she reveals. "Which sent up a big red flag. If you are supposed to 'Mr. Drake,' and we didn't pick the right person, you would have just jumped ship?

"What really surprised me was that, when pushed, Sandra and Christa buckled so quickly," Dunn continues. "Because they both were very vocal that they did not want to go down to the final two with Rupert. I think that they panicked. And you know what, I can appreciate that. But the whole time that Christa was there, she would say, 'I love Rupert. but he's going to be a force to be reckoned with after the merge, because he is strong. I want an even playing field, and he's not going to give us that.'"

What about resident smooth-talker Jon — would Dunn have preferred going down to the wire with him? "I knew that Jon was very manipulative," she laughs. "But I liked Jon a lot, even though he was very obnoxious. There was something about Jon; you couldn't trust him as far as you could throw him, but when he talked, you kind of believed him. It is a very weird thing. It's a talent the guy has."
   
(Just in case anyone did not see this.)                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

Gidget

Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I did not, thank you Lorry. I can't figure out why they are all so afraid of Rupert. I love the guy but I do not see him going all the way for many reasons. Don't these people watch the show. A big, strong, out there guy like Rupert is a huge target. And he can't possibly win immunity every week.

I think Trish was dead wrong to move on him. As of right now, she lost. You screwed up, stop whining about it.

On the otherhand, not knowing what is up with the ghost tribe she may get a second chance I don't think she deserves.

In fact as much fun as the whole ghost tribe idea is, I am very against booties coming back.

Jami

Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rupert played a Survivor type game in his home town that was 10 days long. And if I read it right he won every challenge. So perhaps it would be posible for Rupert. Hope so anyway.

Jami

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 09:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I assume there will be alot of Rupert bashing after the way he acted towards Jon after the TC. But I just wanted to state that, although I think he went overboard, I still love him.

I don't think we can understand the thought processes that occur in a situation like that. I think that they sort of get into the mindset that this is the whole world and that it is reality. And Jon's betrayal of him seemed like a life threatening sort of thing. So he reacted to the extreme.

But I also think he is one that expresses his feelings, gets them out, and then goes on. And he had those angry feelings towards Jon so he was expressing them, and once out he can function. Actually I wish more people were that way. So much of life is spent wondering what others really think. And then us covering up how we feel too.


OK I am going on too much here,,,it is late and I can't sleep,,,so I'll just say good night y'all.

Caycaye

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 11:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you , Jami. I LOVE Rupert, bu I can see a very sensitive, loyal little boy way back there who was tormented and betrayed and extremely hurt a long time ago. It is like when someone betrays him, or mocks him, it brings back all of the old anger. (Forgive my armchair analysis)

ANYWAY, on Yahoo Survivor Insider...it shows them all at the Tribal Council, and Rupert is as full of anger as I have ever seen him. He is very angry at the disloyalty from his team. He is obvviously a TRUE "team player" and cannot believe the unecessary betrayals that have happened already. Anyway, he took a good, long time to explain his vote to ditch Shawn. He is still extremely ANGRY and hurt at Shawn, Michelle and Burton for their treatment of him from Day 1. He claims that Shawn mocked him and called him dumb. He never was grateful at Rupert provisions for them or Rupert's hard work. He said that Shawn and his group said Rupert was like a big, dumb oaf in the sandbox, and that Rupert probably couldn't even SPELL alliance. Rupert is very hurt that they always treated him as below them. He said that even when he had no clothes, and had to wear a dress, Shawn and his group unmercifully ridiculed him and never were supportive. Rupert said he gave Shawn all day, to figure out that Rupert deserved and wanted an apology for Shawn's behavior, but it never happenned. And as Rupert said..."Jon may be a weasel....but anything ugly he wanted to say about me, he said to my face...not behind my back." And with that, Rupert voted Shawn out.

I was really taken aback at how ANGRY Rupert still is at the three of them. I felt sorry for Rupert.

Llkoolaid

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 05:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Am I the only one who enjoyed Rupert's rant to Jon. I think the <el> had it coming for a long time and I don't think it will hurt Rupert one bit with Christa and Sandra, they seemed to enjoy it. Doesn't matter who comes back, if it's team immunity and Drake loses Jon is gone and then the returnee. The girls and Rupert are strong, a merge might hurt Rupert but I think he is safe until then.

Hopefully if there is a merge Rupert will be smart enough to put his anger at Jon aside and keep his team intact when the first person is booted, he has to win over the returning Morgan player so the first tribal council will be 6 to 4. Whoever figures out that they have to keep their 4 strong is in the best position and I am thinking that as a team Morgan has the most loyality to each other. Jon just can't be trusted.

Did I mention I LOVE RUPERT!!!!!!!!!

Lorry

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 05:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Rupert was as angry that Jon voted for him, as he was that Jon jeopardized the entire team with his lack of loyalty.

Until the merge, Team Drake needs to stay unified, strong and without inner turmoil. I think that is the point Rupert was trying to get across.

Sure, he didn't want to be voted out, but he also knew and felt his team was hit hard after they threw the one challenge. They had lost their "team goal". It isn't time for them to compete individually, they need to stay strong and defeat the other team first.... then I think Rupert would accept that they had to worry about themselves only.

Enigma2

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 05:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still luv Rubert, but a little less.

His rant at Jon <el> was totally wrong. Everyone has the 'right' to vote as they want. And while Rupert may have been dissappointed, and felt 'betrayed,' he should not have laid-into Jon, who was just exercising his 'rights.'

What I can't understand is why Shawn is gone, and Jon is still there...Is Rupert making mistakes?

Lorry

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 06:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Enigma, I think keeping Jon was a very good idea. The women realize this. They have a better chance at winning the individual comps against Jon then against Shawn.

I also think there was an original alliance that did not include Michelle, Shawn or Burton, and to that end, Shawn had to be the next to go.

Jon is a pain, but he is a hard worker, he does provide the women with less of a threat physically, and he is definitely disliked on the Morgan team. He was the best choice to keep, IMO.

As for Rupert's rage... it was justified, it was dispensed with, and it was tempered by the hug. I like to see honest emotion as opposed to fake, as in Shawn turning on Burton ONLY after he was voted off. That whole bit was clearly seen through by the others and not appreciated.

Bcandscott

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Keeping Jon makes sense when you consider that Michelle, Burton and Shawn were the three allied together from the beginning and the primary tormentors of Rupert. They THINK that Burton will be returning and if that happened and Shawn was still there, they would have the two smug guys who ridiculed Rupert from the beginning together again as a pair. Even Michelle would align with Shawn if she returned. Nobody in the outcasts was likely to align themselves with Jon.

I wasn't bothered by Rupert going off on Jon. Any time you have a group of people in that kind of stressful situation dealing with issues of betrayal and loyalty, you are going to have moments of anger and rage. I would rather deal with Rupert who expresses those feelings than someone who suppresses them and boils under the surface. Rupert was angry. He expressed it. He may still be angry but he and Jon reached a truce. Better that than waiting till the end and doing a Susan Hawk speech about how someone is a complete jerk and you hate them. Get it out, get it over and move on.

Sweetpea1994

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Rupert may have gone a little overboard with Jon (I don't like Jon though so I'm willing to overlook it:)). I am a little surprised that Rupert voted for Shawn instead of Jon, after Shawn sealed Trish's fate the night before. I don't think Shawn and Burton would have become aligned again, Shawn did vote to boot Burton and Michelle. I would assume there are some hard feelings over that betrayal.

Lorry

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm just here to re-affirm my support of Rupert. I've been reading some posts where some of us are not too happy with Rupert.

I think the reason I can look past Rupert's little rant at Jon is.... well... I can't imagine having to live 24/7 with Jon...rofl But I will say that it's my opinion that Rupert is the type of upfront person that simply has to vent, but is quick, to the point, and then tempered once the venting has released the tension.

Anyway, I'd have "shoved the plank up Jon's butt" about two episodes ago, so I think Rupert has the patience of a Sainte.

Oh I feel so much better now. I think I'll have a cup of tea and relax...lol

Bcandscott

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing is, Rupert is large and loud. ANY other survivor saying the same things in the same tone of voice would NOT have seemed as LARGE and LOUD as Rupert. Coming from a family of large, loud people, it just didn't seem that big a deal to me. There are some parts of my family that would use the same tone of voice asking who left the lid up on the toilet as well as calling out "I love you" when someone was backing out of the drive. Heh, Rupert is just Rupert. I still like the guy.

Allietex

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 11:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can see Rupert voting for Shawn even though he was angry with Jon. Rupert is there to win the money and to have an adventure. He votes with his head not his emotions. Stategically he believes that it was better for Shawn to go than Jon.

Rupert was angry with Jon because he felt he had an agreement with him and Jon betrayed him. He let him know how he felt in no uncertain terms and then he voted what he felt was in the best interests of the tribe and himself.

Surfgirl

Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 12:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
OK.. I have been one of the biggest supporters for Rupert from the beginning .. but my lovable Hagrid is getting a little big headed,
and I say that with love..

He really needs to tone down the MY TRIBE talk, already has a target on his back.. because of strength and is likable..He can not let ego add to that target!!

I have to say Jon being reamed by Rubert was great, but not a great move on Ruperts part.. is a game, your going to get votes..suck it up!

All I have left to say is PLEASE RUPEERT!!Dont screw it up!!You are my favorite Surviver ever!! Go back to cuddley ..scary doesnt suit you, or help you!

Lorry

Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 06:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Surfgirl, I'm worried about Rupert also. He is my favorite survivor and don't want to have him gone so early in the game.

Sia

Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love Rupert. He reminds me a lot of a man I used to date.

Caycaye

Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 11:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey...I just read on realitynews.com that Rupert is gonna be on Survivor All-Stars....He is missing from his home town....I guess CBS loves Rupert too...

Jami

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 04:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That will make the All-Star edition worth watching!!! Yay!

Pamy

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 04:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am 99% positive that Christy is on the all star ed also, she was my fav, if rupert is there I bet he will treat her better than her evil stepsisters

Squaredsc

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 05:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
unless she votes for him. sorry i had to throw that in, lol.

Jami

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 05:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I could really see Rupert bonding with Christy. That would be great.

Gen

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is a link about Rupert being on the all star survivor, from the SNN site:

http://www.survivornews.net/news.php?id=325

Looks like we will get to see more of Rupert, hopefully with better clothes to wear!

I think this means that he does not win S7. I'm guessing that he will be leaving this week or the next.