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Neko

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the weights were all the same.

Think about it, Christa was the only one left for her team, the motivation was there for her to do crazy things, like hold that amount of weight for that long.

Same with Andrew. The only I feel he held on for that long was the motivation Jon inadvertantly (Or maybe not, maybe Jon really wanted Rupert out...) gave him.

Kaili

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The other team was adding the weights and they were being tallied as they were added. That can't be the lie. Jeff would have known. It's gotta be something taht someone says to someone else. I was getting ready for Jon's "shocking confession" to be the big lie, but it wasn't.

Lorry

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Neko, you voiced what I was thinking. Maybe Jon did that on purpose... he knew he couldn't openly throw the competition coming up... he didn't even know what it would be.. but to insure Rupert's demise from the tribe, he could very well have given Morgan the boost they needed.

That Jon!!! <el>... maybe a smarter <el> then we are giving him credit for. Glad it backfired on him.

Now, if Jon is not next to go, then does he have an alliance with Rupert???? Aside from the original Alliance??

Kaili

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Now wait- I just remembered something because of what you said Lorry...
At one point when they were adding weights, I recall Jeff said something like there was disagreement about who weight was added to. I don't remember who it was, but you know how the two were taking turns telling who to add the weight to? I just remember that one of them said one person, and the other disagreed with the choice. There was a limited amount of weight they could distribute among the three people holding the weight. I might just have to go check my tape. I still don't think that was the lie, but it may be something to look into. Not sure if it means anything or not though...

Neko

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Not really sure what you're saying Kaili..
But it was the fact that Jon said add the weight to someone, but Trish didn't like who Jon picked but they still added the weight to that person.

I think it was Andrew and Trish didn't like that since Andrew had been holding the weight crazily and didn't seem to be having any visible problems with it.,
I think Trish wanted the weight to go on Ryan O.

Hermione69

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still don't think we have seen the Big Lie.

Kaili

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 09:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know what I'm saying either. They had 600 pounds to distribute. I'm not sure how much they had left by that point- I have it replaying right now and you're right- Jon said Savage and Trish shook her head. Okay, then at the end- Andrew had 160 and Ryan had 140. There were two bags left to add and Jon picked Savage again. That's when Jeff said it was a strategic move that wasn't agreed on. Probably meaningless except that Trish probably figured Andrew was ready to give soon anyway and Ryan needed more since he had it easiest in terms of weight and how long he held it for.

Csnog

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think the BIG lie has occured either.

We have been led to believe that Jon told the lie but what if the lie was told by another player at the begining of the show and MB has not shown it yet.

Jeff said it would unfold during the show, and that the players would find out while watching the show.

Rupertbear

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
At the end...they were supposed to add more weight to Andrew I think but Rupert began to falter, so they didn't add it. They waited to see if Rupert could hold on. To me, that was unfair...the weight should have been added to Andrew's burden immediately & who knows...maybe it would have been enough for him to drop the pole.

Kaili

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe, but there was still Ryan who didn't have as much weight on him yet. Morgan would have won regardless. Andrew held on for a long time, and Ryan pretty much came in late since they had focused most of the weight onto Osten, then Andrew. It still would have been Christa alone in the end. I think anyway.

Kep421

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaili... I believe you are right, it would have been Christa alone in the end no matter what because Shawn's mental attitude in this contest was definitely NOT up to par... No way would he have hung in there to even try to beat Andrew.

Grannyg

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe the big lie is that Jon told Drake that when he went over to Morgan he didn't tell them anything BUT he did tell Morgan that they threw the competion. If Drake believed that Jon didn't tell them anything and then they "saw" what Jon really did tell them, they would know that Jon lied to all of them about telling about the "letting Morgan win". This may come out after the merge when say Andrew ask Rupert if they threw the competion, then Rupert will know Jon lied but the rest of the team would have found out last nite during the show. Just a thought. Since the lie seems to involve Jon and he was the one looting. We just don't know what he told Drake about what was said while he was there.

Texasdeb

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 03:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We only know what CBS shows us. What if Jon came back & upon Trish's suggestion to boot Rupert Jon tells that Morgan has said Rupert has agreed to jump tribe loyalty @ merger. Just reaching - I can't imagine any of them doing the "big lie" except Jon.

Niceguy

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is the merge in two more episodes? I'm hangin' in there for the girly-man who may be a wolf keepin' it on the down low.