Sandra,,,cunning or clumsy?
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Sandra,,,cunning or clumsy?
Llkoolaid | Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 10:36 am     I also agree with Starshine, and I think Ti is at fault for her own demise. She was sticking with Sandra and Christa for 1 vote only. Didn't she then plan to get rid of Christa the next week. I didn't tape the show and don't have it clear if she did talk to Jon or if he made it up. In her closing she said it was her own fault because she tried to take the lead. Can anyone clear this up for me. I think it was a big mistake not getting rid of Burton but what were her reasons. |
Starshine40 | Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 07:32 pm     Llkoolaid, Yes Ti did talk to Jon, that's why he then approached Sandra and Christa about keeping Burton and promised them F4 with he and Burton, swore it on "grandma". Why Sandra and Christa decided to trust him one more time I certainly don't understand and believe it may be their undoing. |
Texasdeb | Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 01:56 pm     everyone is dbl crossing @ this point: Sandra/Christa may have seen it as a disloyalty that Ti went to Jon/Burton about their plan. When Jon shared this, Sand/Chris might have felt a Drake loyalty thing & F4 w/Burt-Jon is just as well as F4 w/Ty-Da. Ty made the big mistake by not keeping her mouth shut about the girl power thing. She IMO f'd up & got her self the plank. |
Cpmfinster | Monday, December 01, 2003 - 09:25 am     Well, my opinion of Sandra went down the tubes after this last episode and seeing how bad Christa felt made me feel for her. I can understand Sandra not coming clean after the seeing the way the tribe reacted when they learned about the fish, at that point it was too far gone, but... At Tribal Council, Sandra told Jeff the whole fish story. She brought it up for no reason other than to point out in front of everybody that Christa tossed the fish. Again, she brought it up out of the blue. This is not the actions of someone who "regrets" Christa taking the blame. Jeff then asked Christa about it and she simply stated she had no way to prove she didn't do it. My bet, Christa will not be happy on the final show and I wouldn't be surprised to see a "Susan Hawk" speech. |
Texasdeb | Monday, December 01, 2003 - 04:46 pm     We'll hear some good stuff from Sandra too if she isn't in the final 2. I'm OK with Sandra & the missing fish thing. She wasn't pointing a finger @ Christa, just keeping the finger from pointing her own way. I think she covered her own a$$ in a very smart "game" way. Who would ever think it might have been her since she brought it up. |
Kep421 | Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:01 am     I agree with deb. Sandra didn't set out to throw out the fish and then purposefully blame Christa for the deed. She was going to toss the fish and then deny, deny, deny, deny. Its exactly what I would have done in that situation. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. In my opinion, I think Burton, Jon and T were the ones who hurt Christa. They are the ones who insisted she did it WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE!! They are the ones who went beyond accusing her, they convicted her. When watching over again last night, I noticed T even tried to get Christa to believe she saw Christa do it. Lil said she thought Christa did it, but Burton, Jon and T said they KNEW Christa did it. Sandra kept her mouth shut because that is what she had to do to stay in the game. Burton, Jon and T had no right to attack Christa that way without evidence...jmho... |
Essence | Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 07:13 am     It's not ok for Burton, Jon and T to accuse, but it is ok for Sandra to let Christa take the blame for something SHE KNOWS Christa didn't do? If it were an accident, why didn't Sandra come forward before the accusing started? She could have saved a lot of drama by telling the tribe when it happened. She knew someone was going to get blamed. Maybe not her ally Christa, but someone. If one is wrong, they all are wrong. |
Pantageas | Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 08:17 am     What? Someone OBVIOUSLY sabotaged the fish. Noone ADMITTED to doing so. SOMEONE is obviously lying. But when it's time to figure who was most likely, the people who figure wrong are "bad", and the actual culprit is forgiven? Sandra ADMITTED she was trying to deny the tribe the fish as punishment for getting rid of Rupert. She just screwed up and dumped them closer to the camp than she wanted to. Bottom line <il> She may make it far.  |
Cpmfinster | Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 10:42 am     From Tribal Council...
Quote:Jeff: Sandra, Where is this tribe? Sandra: Um, after the last tribal council we went straight to camp and there was so much shouting, fighting, cursing, I mean the works. All of a sudden they're looking for the fish to fire it up and have a good meal and somebody tossed the fish in the jungle and they start pointing the finger at Christa 'cause she put her water canteen under the shelter. We were all hungry, we wanted to eat Ruperts fish, but nobody ate jack. Jeff: So Christa, You're still taking the blame for this Christa: I was gone for thirty seconds, I didn't do it, I don't know who did it, I can't prove anything.
Why didn't Sandra just say: "Hi Jeff! Good to see you, my bestest buddy in the whole world Christa, tossed the fish!" With friends like Sandra... |
March | Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 12:02 pm     But the other side of the coin is, for a million dollars would you risk getting voted out over letting someone else take the blame with the fish. I don't think that Sandra thought they were going to blame Christa about the fish, she probably knew they would question it but not directly point fingers at someone. At TC she knew Christa was safe as they were voting out T. I thought she was just letting Rupert know that the ones that voted him out did not get to eat the last fish that he caught. I am sure Rupert knew Sandra was the one that did it. |
Kep421 | Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 06:45 am     I see the act of omission very differently then actively accusing and attacking someone. When Rupert did it to Jon over voting, everyone thought it was soooo wrong and mean. When Burton does it, its Sandra's fault? Sandra did nothing to make Burton think Christa did it. He jumped to his own conclusions and acted on them. He could have accused BOTH Christa and Sandra, which are the likely candidates...but he chose to focus solely on Christa without ANY proof. And Burton was the one who incited the rest of them against Christa, even though he had no proof that Christa did it. Whatever Sandra did or didn't do, doesn't absolve Mr. Friggin Wonderful of his obnoxious behavior. |
Serate | Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 08:45 am     *agrees with kep421* |
Aunt_Bob | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:53 am     Kep421 said: ". . . actively accusing and attacking someone. When Rupert did it to Jon over voting, everyone thought it was soooo wrong and mean. When Burton does it, its Sandra's fault? Whatever Sandra did or didn't do, doesn't absolve Mr. Friggin Wonderful of his obnoxious behavior." To Kep421, I say: " " |
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