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Lorry

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 06:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Will he???

What are you thoughts?

Gen

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lorry, he may have a chance to re-group when Trish comes back. You can be sure that she will be after those that planked her.

Auntiemike

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He'll be planked eventually because he saw the writing on the wall of his tribe tonight. His only alliance was with Trish (in actuality) and she's gone! Plus, the other tribe doesn't like him either. He won't last. Hence the look of "oh, oh, what do I do now" on his face at TC. Wonder if it will knock him down a peg or two in his arrogant attitude.

Lorry

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 10:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I doubt Jon is capable of being humbled...lol He doesn't seem to understand the concept.

I thought the look on his face was priceless.

You know he's going to be kissing butt big time now. His was the only vote for Rupert, other than Trish... and he saw what happened to Trish.

Damn... Enigma is going to be soooo sad.. sorry friend, if you are reading this... I feel for you, but she bit the hand that fed her...lol (Literally)

Catfat

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 10:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What was Rupert confronting Jon about in the previews? Was he asking who voted for him and Jon said "I did". What else did anyone see?

Lorry

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I missed the entire teaser for next week Catfat... My family and a couple of friends come over every Thursday night to watch the show with me... I love em to death, but ohhhhh they talk talk talk... and I miss important things...lol

If you find out, post it here, if you don't mind.

Lorry

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gen, I have not had the chance to meet you till now... Are you a regular? Anyway, hello and good thinking.

Yep, Trish will come back with a vengence..lol
I liked Trish, up until she turned on Rupert. She was right, but she played her cards too soon, IMO.

Duckie

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 03:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Catfat..........yes, Rupert yelled to Jon "Who voted for me?" and Jon said he did....Rupert didnt sound very nice LOL

Hermione69

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 04:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Go Jon!!!! And I don't mean as in Go Away!! I'm sorry, but I love seeing this scrappy little man stick in there every episode. I think he is entertaining and I like how everything is so close to the surface. He gets in people's faces and makes great TV! He don't hold back! And if he admitted voting for Rupert right there when Rupert was in that mood, well, that's pretty cool! A lot of people would deny it and try to make it seem like someone else is lying.

I don't think Jon is going anywhere yet, but I don't think he will win either unless he makes it there as the person everyone wants to go up against like Clay in S5!!

Stilllurking

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 05:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Lorry, how you doing Sis. Oh how I feel for our friend Enigma, I tried to warn him about Trish but he wasn't buying!lol I agree that Trish is going to come back w/ a vengenace and it won't surprise me to see her knock out Rupert next week, What will our dear friend Enigma do then? roflmao

Maris

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Who knows what is really going on. The survivors all seem to get along with Jon and hate Shawn. There is something going on with Shawn that we are not privy to and I think Jon does a lot more work than we are led to believe.

Watching the edited show .I wonder why aren't they getting rid of Jon and what is so bad about Shawn. We aren't getting the real picture.

Hermione69

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 05:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I believe Michelle actually said that in a chat-- that Jon does a lot of work around camp.

Okay, I just found it-- Michelle said on the Early Show, and I am quoting from the CC transcript at Survivor Fever-- "Jon actually did more than you would think he was capable of. He did a lot of hard work. You hear him complaining and making a big, you know, hoopla every place, but really, he's a pretty down to earth guy and he did a lot of stuff that contributed to the camp and made it a more bearable place to be." She also went on to talk about how, even though he is not always kind, he is honest. And we see that next episode, apparently, when he admits to Rupert he is the one that voted for him. Okay, I'll go away now and shut up! I know I am in a tiny minority in liking him.

By the way, here is where I got the above quote:

Michelle on Early Show

Lorry

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 06:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I've been wondering the same thing about Jon and Shawn. I think Rupert and the others give Jon a pass because they think he is just a harmless braggart, where as something that we don't see is taking place with Shawn.

Maybe Jon and Sandra were right, he did seem reluctant to pitch in and move the shelter in order to lift it up from the sand. I bet you are right... we are being fooled by the editing.

Damn, I was not planning on liking Jon, but if he turns out to be a good guy.... ugh... lol I'll be eating Crow. yuck yuck yuck

Tossing out a big hello to my Sister StillLurking... We definitely need to get our Brother Enigma adopted.

Also to extend that offer to anyone else on the boards. I wish I could post a link to the Adoption Thread. Maybe someone else can that knows how.

Stilllurking

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 06:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sister Lorry, I'll be eating crow right along side you. Though I've heard if we marinate it in Italian dressing it goes down a little easier.

If I could find our friend Enigma, I would gladly harass his a** to get adopted. I fear I may have pushed him to far by suggesting that he think about attending the NorthEast Coast get together.

Heck, Pittsburg isn't too far, maybe I could even get together w/ you and Marm and crew! Now that I would love.

Hermione69

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 06:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Stilllurking! Yes, that is my special recipe!

Webkitty

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I agree. The editing is not showing the whole picture. Shawn's editing reminds me of Keith in S2/Outback. I am still bewildered why he was SO disliked by everyone there. MB choose not to show this for some reason. I felt neutral about Keith and the same for Shawn.
One thing Michelle said in her chats is that Jon was entertainment for them. In all the past seasons, this has been a big saviour for someone who is not good at challenges. They are bored out of their minds out there, and anyone who has the knack to give them some relief from that will be kept around longer than they might otherwise.

Rob from last seasons pops to mind. But, Jon is not Rob. He may THINK he has the skills to manipulate his way to the end, but I think we are seeing the beginning of the story arch that Jeff talked about at the beginning of the season. He said Jon was the squirreliest Survivor ever, and irratating, but he does something to redeem himself, and when he finallly falls on his face, you want him to get right back up again. After last night, I have no clue what this might be. His "redemtion" certaintly didn't start last night.

Note: Herm is right, Michelle did say that Jon worked hard around camp, and this has not been shown.

Kaili

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought it was shown with the shelter last night- Jon was the one that moved pretty much every piece of wood out from under the tarp. That was when he was arguing with Shawn because Shawn wouldn't do it and didn't think it was worth it.

Keith...Keith. He was the one that put the pig blood on his face? I didn't like him because of that. Too...tribal for me I guess.

Squaredsc

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
kaili i think that was mike, the one who burned his hands and had to leave. keith was the cook who couldn't cook rice, lol. but i liked him.

Kaili

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh! You're right! I remember Keith now. Well, sort of. I can picture him and remember the cook stuff, but I don't really remember his personality.

Hermione69

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Everything with Jon is such a role, I have to wonder if he really thinks he is that manipulative. I had the feeling when he made the pass at Darrah, that he knew she would shoot him down, and he did it anyway because he was in that groove he gets in when he is playing a part. I think next week and how it plays out between Rupert and Jon is going to be very revealing of their personalities. I will probably have to eat crow AGAIN, but in the meantime, I don't mind being the only member of the Jon Dalton Fan Club. I have no earthly idea why I find him so amusing. Some people have compared him to Mike Boogie, but Mike Boogie made my skin crawl. I think Jon is all show, and like Michelle implied, I think underneath he has a good heart. He just postures SO MUCH. I can understand why 99.9% of the people can't stand him, but I like him in a quirky way.

Immunity_Man

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, here is my thoughts on Jon. Jon is Jon. Do I personally want to hangout with this <el>...No! He's not someone that would find his name on my Christmas Card list...BUT Jon is Jon and I sorta have to respect that.

He's good TV and you know that's why the producers chose him for this Survivor outing. So I agree with Hermione that he's entertaining. Now Osten on the other hand is neither entertaining nor good TV, but this isn't about Osten. It's about Jon and Jon will walk the plank eventually. He won't win, but don't be surprised if this <el> gets to the final 4.

Mack

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like to dislike Jon. He's arrogant, loud, full of himself, and entertaining to a point. He may have overplayed his hand with the failed Rupert elimination but then, on the other hand, he may just have sealed Rupert's fate. As much as I like Rupert and would like to see him win it all I've always thought a group of weaker players would get together and vote Rupert out. If Rupert overplays his anger at being nominated it just might be too big of a red flag.

Webkitty

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Keith was the one who Colby brought along to F3 because he was so disliked, a common Survivor strategy. In the end, Colby picked Tina for the F2 spot and lost the Million because of it.
I remember Colby having a heart to heart talk with his mother about it. (when he won the family reward) They were in that fugly vehicle he won, having an overnight camp out, and he was having angst over his decision. He knew if he brought Keith along, he would probably win, but he didn't want to take the chance that someone like Keith, who he felt didn't DESERVE to win, might. He said he would rather lose to Tina who DID deserve to win. Oh yea, Colby is STILL my all time fav.

Anyway, I am thinking that Shawn AND Jon have been kept for just this reason. No one on Drake would give either the million. No one on Morgan would give Jon the million, I bet Rupert knows this from his time there! Maybe this is some of what we never got to see.

One thing I have to say about Jon. He has GORGEOUS hair! Its thick blond and curly, gawd, I want to snach it off his head for myself!

Squaredsc

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
its ok hermi, im the only one who still likes osten, lol. but im blinded by his body though. im so shallow.

Hermione69

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Square! We can bond together in this time of persecution!