Most damaging lie ever?
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Most damaging lie ever?
Fruitbat | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 05:28 pm     Oh that is very funny, Herm. |
Gina8642 | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 06:08 pm     It's pretty clear from Christa's (And Ti's) interviews that Jon 'swearing on his grandmother's grave' had little to do with her deciding to go along with him for that vote. Ti threatened her and Christa had enough of Ti and got rid of Ti. The editor's just wanted to try to get the most out of the lie that they can, so they edited to make it look that way. Jon's lie may be helping him with Lil or Darrah, but even Lil looks a little sick of all the 'swearing' in the promo for next week. Personally, I don't think the lie was worth winning the family visit. If it was immunity? I think you need to go all out. Family visit? Yeah, it's nice - but it can build jelousy and resentment against you. What is may help Jon with is notieriety. This he clearly wants. I'm sure he will be working his 15 minutes as hard as he possibly can after the show. |
Kmjm | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 06:21 pm     Excuuuse me, but what exactly did Ghandia lie about? Ted admitted the 'grinding'- as I recall the issue was that she seemed to forgive him- at least according to the editing- and then complained about it later. I don't recall a lie. She was a drama queen, but she didn't invent what he did. |
Hermione69 | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:11 pm     She did lie, though... I can't remember exactly, but she lied to Helen and Jan about how Ted handled it to try to get them mad at him and to save her own skin. She admitted that herself, which made us all doubt whether it ever happened in the first place. I don't think Ted ever admitted anything. He said if it happened, it probably happened when he was asleep and he was sorry. I remember this because I was one of Ghandia's biggest defenders at the time and when she admitted her embellishments, I felt so stupid. |
Puzzled | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:27 pm     Hermione, I pretty much remember it that way, too. She spoke to him, he apologised profusely, and she said it was over. Then she blabbed. I thought it was very unfair. I thought it was really possible, that in his sleep, he was thinking of his wife, or just was having a naughty dream. He did apologise, and I thought that should have been the end of it. |
Puttergirl | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:27 pm     Ya'll are missing the most important Boy Scout Rule that Lil had broken: "A Scout is Clean. A Scout keeps his body and mind fit and clean. He chooses the company of those who live by high standards. He helps keep his home and community clean." lol |
Allietex | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 10:43 pm     Hey, guys, remember this is a game, no different that any game where you try to fake out or decieve your opponents. I don't think it is going to scar her scouts to see her lie in the context of the game. I think they will be more disappointed at the whining about being lied to. Frankly, I get tired of all of them even bringing up the lying and betraying stuff. They all do it. The ones who haven't, have been far and few between and none of them have won the million dollars. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 04:17 am     Putter, love it. Ok, scouts schmouts. Damage schmamage. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 04:51 am     Good one, Puttergirl, LOL! |
Kmjm | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 10:23 pm     Hermoine and Puzzled, my memory of the event differs from yours. I also remember at the time that I was pretty alone in defending Ghandia! In any case, there was no lasting harm done, whereas if Jon cheats someone else out of a million, then that is definitely the worst! |
Cpmfinster | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 11:49 pm     I'm sorry but... Jon has not cheated anybody out of anything |
Allietex | Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 08:31 pm     Ghandia's lie was potentially a lot more damaging than costing someone a million. It could have wrecked a marriage and a career. The fact that no harm was done was more the credit of the spouses and bosses involved than it was anything else. However, we don't really know the longstanding damage her lie might have caused. We never will. How do you see it that Jon cheated anyone out of a million dollars? Apparently his lie was within the rules regardless of how obnoxious it was. Don't get me wrong. I think he is <mdh> and hope he is the next to go home, but as far as I know he did not cheat. |
Niceguy | Monday, December 08, 2003 - 08:22 am     Ghandia was throwing herself on Ted. Ted behaved stupidly though, by saying he wasn't even attracted to her. I'm sure in both of those households there's a lingering question in their respective spouses minds as to what really happened out there. Jon's lie is so pre-meditated that it would make a lot of employers think twice about considering him for a position in their firm. Jon's lie will eventually hurt Jon the most. |
Seamonkey | Monday, December 08, 2003 - 11:00 am     Unfortunately, in the world of reality tv or pro-wrestling "characters", I don't think Jon's lie will hurt him at all. |
Ladytex | Monday, December 08, 2003 - 12:44 pm     I agree, Sea, if he carries this off well til the end, it may just get him a try out or job in Pro Wrasslin'. |
Maris | Monday, December 08, 2003 - 01:59 pm     The worst lie to me was Jerri's. She falsely accused someone of sneaking beef jerkey which resulted in him being kicked off the island. That is a lie that caused damage to someone in the game. Jon's lie was a pretty nasty lie but it didn't hurt anyone. Ghandia running around and bad mouthing Ted wasn't technically a lie and it didn't hurt him in the game. |
Hippyt | Monday, December 08, 2003 - 02:11 pm     I agree Maris. |
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