Archive through October 28, 2003
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Archive through October 28, 2003
Lorry | Friday, October 24, 2003 - 09:04 am     Let's do some speculation here. We pretty much all think the twist is the Ghost Tribe coming back to haunt those that booted them. But maybe that's just half the twist. Just adding another tribe doesn't really make sense to me. Unless that tribe had more power than the real tribes. Could there be more to this twist? What are you thinking? The lie... well I'm thinking the lie might not have happened yet. Sure, there's the fact that the DRakes threw the challenge, but is that really a lie? Who did they lie to about it? They confessed, or anyway, Jon told at TC. Plus, that doesn't seem so horrendous.... not like it's being played up to be by MB and JP. The regret... Again, I think the regret is hand in hand with the lie, and since I'm not convinced the lie has taken place yet.... well... then I can't imagine what anyone would regret yet... enough to blast JP off his chair anyway...lol So what do you all think??? What is the Twist, the Lie and the Regret??? |
Kaili | Friday, October 24, 2003 - 09:27 am     I don't think the lie has happened either. The throwing of the challenge wasn't the lie- because they did. Who knows if they would have won it or not if they had tried. We don't know because they didn't try. They may have lost regardless. Besides- challenges have been thrown in past Survivors. Not a big deal really. A mistake? I think so. A big deal? Nah, not really. I don't know whether or not the regret is tied to the lie. I'm not convinced of that. The regret, however, may be tied to the twist/ghost tribe. maybe someone shows something in the ghost tribe that makes the other team think, damn- we should have kept them. Hard to say about the twist- I have no idea how it will work. Will they merge at the point that the ghost member returns? Does that person come in with individual immunity for that week? Would that even be fair- that would mean nobody else got to even compete. Then again, sending Rupert to Morgan that time in effect gave him individual immunity that week. Or.. will the ghost member go back with the tribe of their choosing until the merge? Will the tribes compete to see which one gets the returning person. Or will they automatically go back to their old tribe or the other tribe? Will there be a switch of members this time? So, so, so many scenarios. |
Ninja_157 | Monday, October 27, 2003 - 07:31 pm     Jeff Probst was on a San Francisco radio station this morning promoting his movie and mentioned that the "big regret" happens in this two part episode. No clue as to what it is, but he said the person ends up doing something that they regret for a long time. |
Ninja_157 | Monday, October 27, 2003 - 07:33 pm     whoops...double post. Sorry. |
Csnog | Monday, October 27, 2003 - 08:34 pm     I thought the regret was killing a bird and making a stew then being told they couldn't eat it because it might have a virus. They "regret killing it" |
Duckie | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:57 am     Maybe the regret is Osten quitting? |
Grannyg | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 04:21 am     good thought duckie. that would be a big regret and last a long time, i would think. |
Webkitty | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 06:05 am     Good one Ducky.... ....on day 25, (of filming) Jeff gave an interview from the Pearl Isands to E! (the morning of the Emmy anouncements) he said....2 notewothy 'events' have happend that have never happend on Survivor before..... One of them has to be the twist, and, Osten quitting? Jeff also said in another interview, that the person who the regret happend to would regret it for a long time... If you read Deena's Docket over at SurvivorPhoenix, she says something odd at the end, something about quitting.....(I know there is no way she could know what went on down there, but it just seemed odd she would talk about quitting right now) she also said that for the people who play the game of Survivor, it is much more than just a game. It changes some people's lives forever, and for some, not in a good way....she also gave some great insight into what goes on at LL!! Great read! |
Llkoolaid | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 07:29 am     Webkitty, could you please post a link. Thanks |
Zgoodgirl | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 08:10 am     I remember reading in TV Guide soon after Survivor started with an interview with Jeff talking about the new twist and the big lie. I think he mentioned that the big lie would start unraveling itself on the 7th episode. Maybe I'm wrong, it's been awhile ago, and I don't have the copy of the Guide, but if that's the case, we should start seeing things unfold Thursday. Is it just me, or are there others out there that just can't get enough of Survivor this year?? I've always watched it, but dang! I'm loving this season!! GO RUPERT!!!! |
Enigma2 | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 08:32 am     Well, my two cents: The 'twist' is the simplest: must be Thursday's "return of the unforgiving" I don't think that we have seen the big lie yet. Probst said it was "brutal." And I haven't seen anything brutal yet. I'm reading some of the ideas about the 'regret' up above, and they seem very valid. For what it's worth, I have thought: Jon is in the middle of three years probation for a DYI; part of the probation was that he was to be enrolled in an alcohol rehabilitation program for the length of his probation. He's really been boozing-it-up whenever he gets the change. Could the regret be that he has violated his probation, goes to jail. |
Lorry | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 08:34 am     Please Webkitty, post the link for us ???? Please??? hehe Zgoodgirl: I'm soooo into the show this season that I for one simply cannot get enough. I keep wishing it were on at least twice a week, and then repeat those two shows on the weekend. And, you and I are not alone. I've been bringing up the show at various functions and get togethers and am truely shocked at how nearly everyone is watching. It's the favorite topic in restaurants, bars, beauty salons and other places where people gather. Just say the name Rupert out loud anywhere and you will find people anxious to chat about the show and the big man himself. I think it has to do with how well the producers put it together also. |
Lorry | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 08:38 am     Enigma, I'd agree about Jon, but other then the internet folks who dig up that sort of thing, who would know?? Certainly the show will not be stopped and Jon escorted off the island... so unless it's something all the viewers will recognize as something to regret, I don't see it being something personal like that. It has to be something we saw happen, or heard said, and something we will realize went wrong. Of course, I could be wrong. |
Webkitty | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 09:52 am     Guys, I'm on webtv and can't post links! (I'm sorry) If you type in Survivorphoenix on your pc, it will probably take you there. Then, look for Deena's Docket. Its right there. |
Zgoodgirl | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:10 am     Link Is this it? Also, here was a little of the Ellen Show interview with Jeff that was on today. Link |
Webkitty | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:16 am     Enigma, Jon's probation for DUI is a new one on me, and I usually root around for all the little Survivor tidbits I can find. I should probably go off and find the exact quote Jeff made about the regret (and the lie) because Jeff rivals Clinton on his careful choice of words. One word off and we could all be barking up the wrong tree! lol I think Jeff said the person would regret it for a long time to come, and more than they could know at the time. Anyway, if Jon has violated his probation, that could be the regret AND the lie, and could fit in with his statement. Although, he would have to use a passport to leave the country, so his probation was probably over with by the time he left. Here is another ~wild a$$ off the wall theory by webkitty~ lol. Maybe, if Osten does quit........he regrets it more than he could know at the time, because the players who have to leave to make room for the returning ghost players, will get a chance to return later in the game, but because he quit, he won't get that chance. I have been picking up little hints and clues here and there around the net that make me think this won't be the only twist or turn or surprise this season. If this all works out that some players who have fire leave WITHOUT having their torch snuffed, I say they WILL be back, no doubt about it. |
Webkitty | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:18 am     Zgirl, that's it, thanks! |
Lilfair | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:23 am     I'm probably wrong, I often am when it comes to "reality TV" I'm still thinking it's Rupert that does the lie and regret. As for the ghost tribe...maybe the G-tribe, if they win get to vote one person off each of the tribes and perhaps if the Drake or Morgan team wins they get to vote one person back into their tribe…potential for regret and a big lie???. |
Kep421 | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:08 pm     Maybe the regret is Osten doesn't quit... (sorry...couldn't resist) |
Tabbyking | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 01:38 pm     osten's already 'quit'--he's just still there! i think the lie is that sandra is really a man. |
Realbiz | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 01:52 pm     it's official, according to jeff p: "the twist" AND "the regret" happen this week, but i don't know when the big lie will happen or if they are tied with the events in some way? i suppose there will be an episode titled " the big lie"? we'll see. |
Catfat | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 02:04 pm     Didn't Jeff say on Ellen that someone tells a big lie and they regret it for a long time? Edited---or maybe it was that someone made a decision and regretted it for a long time. Snore. I'm making myself woozey. |
Tabbyking | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 02:06 pm     so, i wonder if the regret is someone leaving voluntarily or if it is over who possibly comes back. maybe lil comes back and gets rid of osten, then regrets that she didn't get rid of andrew...a toad could beat osten at the end, so you'd want him around if you were in final 2! do you think someone actually quits or is offered a tidy sum to leave early? (i know they get paid so much for how long they stay on, but maybe they offer a cash incentive for someone to quit.) all i know for sure is that this a mighty-confounded week for trying to make game picks!! |
Zgoodgirl | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 02:11 pm     Catfat-I just saw it, and I don't think he mentioned anything about the lie. Just something about one tribe member doing something that he is going to regret for a long time, and it will show how some people react in stressful situations. The baiting of Osten quitting is sooo obvious, that I'm starting to think that he's not going to quit at all. Crossing fingers though..... |
Biloxibelle | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:01 pm     I shouldn't reveal this but I know that the big regret is Osten. Yup he finally got so good at rolling over and playing dead Darrah embalmed him! |
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