Archive through October 15, 2003
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Archive through October 15, 2003
Grooch | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 07:17 am     Maybe it's something like one of them, Michelle, for example, went on and on about how she needed the money the most, because her mother was in the hospital, she needs to pay for law school, her brother needs to go to drug rehab, her father needs bail money, yada, yada, yada.... So when she makes it to the final 2, they vote for her because she "needs" the money desperately, but in reality, she has a huge trust fund and is worth millions. |
Lorry | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 07:21 am     Good point Grooch. If anyone has episode 2 on tape, maybe they can re-run it and see if something like that was mentioned. Wish I had taped the shows...darn it. |
Maris | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 07:33 am     It has to be a big enough lie that Jeff would say Mother F'er. That is why I think it is an identity thing. |
Grooch | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 07:47 am     Hmmm... Maris, you may be on to something. Maybe 2 of the players are closely related to each other in some way and MB and Jeff found out soon after the game started but it was to late to do anything about it? Are Jeff's words written down anywhere? |
Grooch | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 07:54 am     Never mind. I didn't realize there was an archive to this thread. lol! |
Maris | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 07:58 am     That would be a good one, the players being closely related. how about someone being Burnetts relative. That would piss off the tribe members. |
Grooch | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 08:05 am     I was thinking maybe something like that, but I doubt MB would risk getting into legal trouble because of it. Maybe Sandra was born or lived down there, or has family down there, and they were sneaking in supplies to her, or supplying her with information with what the crew were planning or gossip they heard from the crew? |
Kep421 | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 10:22 am     JMHO, but I don't think Osten's "frailty" is fake. It takes a great deal of sustenance and protein to keep those muscles going. Osten is most likely used to eating very well and working out. His body might be responding to the lack of proper food by pulling energy from his muscles ant that can't feel good. The bigger the muscles, the more the lack of food would be felt in a negative way. I'd be willing to bet Osten is feeling weaker than the other tribe members because he is so buff. In contrast, Rupert has muscles AND layers of fat to fuel his body in times of physical stress. I would think his body would be better able to handle the extreme change in diet and physical stress by drawing on stored "reserves". I'm no doctor or physical therapist, but it just seems to make sense to me. |
Flamingo | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 12:31 pm     this quote by JP was printed in the Toronto Sun: quote: "Probst says Dalton, an art consultant from Virginia, takes the prize for "squirreliest" contestant ever. He's responsible for "the greatest lie ever told on Survivor," says Probst, who's heard a few whoppers. It leads to the "biggest regret" and "the most dramatic, impactful twist yet," he says." here's the link: http://www.canoe.ca/JamSurvivorPearl/sep18_survivor-sun.html |
Maris | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 12:39 pm     ok, Jon is really Joanna and takes hormones for the peach fuzz. She is competing for the money to pay for the final phase of her transformation to be a man. The biggest regret is that it came out in Survivor because she hadnt told her parents that she was now a he. |
Texannie | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 12:57 pm     I think Maris is absolutely correct! |
Prisonerno6 | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 01:08 pm     According to another group I read, the reporter on that article later printed a retraction about the part linking Jon to the lie. It seems his digital recorder wasn't working that day and his notes were confusing, so he inadvertently connected the big lie to JP's comments about Jon. |
Webkitty | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 01:30 pm     I read that too, Prisoner. Jeff never said Jon was the one who told the lie. Doesn't mean he wasn't though........ The way CBS has overhyped this season it could be anything, but something tells me that whoever goes to raid the other camp this week tells a BIG LIE, causing someone to get the boot. |
Sunshyne4u | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 08:15 pm     Can't be any bigger of a lie than Jerri and her KEL HAS BEEF JERKY lie. I still cant believe the others all 'fell in line' and voted him out for hoarding imaginary food LOL |
Hippyt | Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 10:08 pm     Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy. Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry. Sunshine on the water looks so lovely. Sunshine all most all the time makes me high. |
Enigma2 | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 02:11 am     Just a thought: The consensus culled from the above seem to name either Jon or Osten as the instigators of the big lie. Could this be because we already –more-or-less– dislike them? I'm still sticking with the possibity that Rupert –in the pirating spirit– will be the perpetrator of the big lie (and then we will all be in-denial because we like him so much...) |
Needmylifeback | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 07:19 am     Maybe it's .... Rupert is actually a decendant of the original Drake tribe....and although he mentors troubled teens..he's also a home-ec teacher.... or... Andrew is not really a lawyer...he's one of the troubled teens who Rupert helped in the past...and works in a law office as errand boy...he just spent his life savings on the Armani suit.... Or.... |
Lorry | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 09:26 am     Hippyt: Thanks for the lovely song. Enigma: Please don't go there... not Rupert.... Ohhhh the agony... Help me, this is the big one Elizabeth. Ok... enough of my dramatics. I have to disagree. I want it to be Jon because of the part where it "comes back to bite him". Sunshyne: Right on about the Jerky lie.. now that was huge. Wasn't there a granola bar lie in the last survivor? I forget who was blamed, but some had the theory that it was a plant by the camera people. |
Shewho | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 09:42 am     Lorry: there was a granola bar incident last season. The accused woman on her TV interview vehemently denied she did it. So that was never really solved. Maris: I like your theory about Jon. Osten doesn't seem creative enough to pull something big off successfully. Oh well I hope the answer is revealed soon. I am very curious. |
Lorry | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 10:16 am     Shewho, thanks for confirming that. I never did believe she had anything to do with that granola bar, it just seemed unlike her. I'm wondering if this "big lie" might not involve the obvious choices. Maybe we should take a closer look at Darrah and the women on Drake. Only problem is, we know so little about most of the women. I hope it isn't a "Ghandia" type lie. That was so awful. |
Maris | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 10:19 am     Remember the Jerry Lie (beef jerky)? now that was some lie. |
Auntiemike | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 10:29 am     Remember, this lie seems to have caught Jeff off guard; and he's pretty sharp when it comes to this game and its players. He didn't see it coming, was shocked when he realized it for what it was (based upon his language/response) and then he was in admiration of the affect it had on the game. I, too, am hoping they reveal it soon as patience is not one of my virtues. I want to know NOW! (Hope that doesn't sound too immature and childish as I'm an over "50" lady that knows better than to wish for immediate gratification!) LOL |
Grooch | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 10:35 am     How long until they merge. Is that when the lies comes out? I am leaning towards Osten actually being able to swim very well. That's the only thing that I can see that would get a reaction out of Jeff like that, while at the same time it started during episode 2. In episode 1, he had to jump off the boat, into the water and swim towards land. Did they show him panicking or having any problems swimming? hmmm...... It's either that or one of them is friends or related to a camerman, and the cameraman is giving him/her inside information on what others are saying in their confessionals. |
Emeraldfire | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 03:17 pm     Grooch, I think Osten held on to the little raft they had and paddled in after jumping off of the boat in the Episode 1. However, I could be wrong (It wouldn't be the first time ) |
Grooch | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 04:13 pm     Boy, then he is really good at this faking not knowing how to swim thing. ;) |
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