Lancecrossfire | Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 04:48 pm     It's interesting that Jon relied on getting sympathy from others--in a game, sympathy is for losers. It's also in the dictionary between shit and syphilis. What's even more amazing is that they all gave him sympathy. It's one thing to care, it's another to hand over a prize because of an outside factor. Folks wouldn't quit because the other person was poorer and need the money more. Although it's been used as a reason to get to stay--and no one fell for it. I guess death is a different animal than money. Riviere, I have to agree with you that at least on the surface the message we are getting is that nice guys finish last in these games. I think Ethan was the last "nice guy" to win. I hope that it's possible to another to do well. In the end, it's the players themselves that allow the "bad guy" to win. Kind of a sad statement about what we fall for or like. I realize the rules kind of allow for it to happen too--but so do the rules in real life. And the funny thing is about the big lie Jon told--it's not even related to the game! |
Texasdeb | Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 05:00 pm     Kick Jon's little <LC> as far off that island as possible (& please, don't dare give him a chance at findig his way back to the good ol' USA). |
Pamy | Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 05:36 pm     Lance ROTF about the dictionary! |
Serate | Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 10:42 am     " It's interesting that Jon relied on getting sympathy from others--in a game, sympathy is for losers. It's also in the dictionary between shit and syphilis. " I was having a terrible day and you made me smile. Thanks Lancecrossfire! |
Allietex | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 12:07 am     As much as I despise Jon, he probably did not break any rule. The show can hardly kick him out if he did not break a rule. You can't change the rules in the middle of a game. I think the best they can do is to include this type of thing in the rules in the future. I just hope he does not win. I am really looking forward to seeing that smirk wiped off his face. |
Pascalle | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 02:48 am     No not everyone hates Jon here. JP said in a recent interview that Jon was told he was going to be cast as this years' villian. JP commended him by saying Jon did not complain once about the bad light he was cast in. They apparently do this every year. It is a ratings game and that is all it is. If they start casting 16 pc'ers they will be cancelled. There is a premis and a bit. Mark B. must be very happy this year as most of you bought the premis AND the bit. LOL |
Fruitbat | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 03:47 am     I agree Pascalle. |
Mocha | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:21 am     Wasn't sure where to put this so i'll put it here, lol. I was talking with a co-worker yesterday and we were talking about the lie. He had a good point which is what grandmother who is near death would go on Survivor and compete in a challenge and who would actually believe that one would. |
Kep421 | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:28 am     Mocha...I don't think the survivor producers would accept anyone who was near death, whether they were a grandma or not... And people have competed who had relatives with life threatening illnesses. Jenna I believe was one, and more recently..Lil. |
Mocha | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:53 am     No I'm saying that the individual with the illness wouldn't go on the show to compete in the family challenge and that should've made the others think. Not that the producers wouldn't allow it. And I know about Jenna and Lil, lol. |
Zgoodgirl | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 12:14 pm     But I'm wondering if he told anybody that his grandma was sick to begin with. Like to work up the lie so it would be more dramatic when it came to a head. And what did Jon say about the cause of her death? Was she actually sick, and this was expected? Or could she have been a feisty lil thing who died skydiving or dirt biking? I wonder if they will ever show Jon explaining what kind of news he did get from his friend on her. I didn't like what Jon did at all. Personally, I believe in karma and bringing bad things into your life by lying like that. But it has made this show interesting, and the reunion show will not be as boring as some of them in the past. |
Denecee | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 02:37 pm     I don't even know why he lied about it. Did he really want to spend time with his friend or what? |
Seamonkey | Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 03:44 pm     No, he wanted to gain sympathy. He knows that didn't hurt Jenna last year to have a family tragedy.. nevermind that hers was real. And he's the one that started the complaining when Sandra dared to make a strike against his visitor, which worked.. made at least Lill snarl at Sandra. This might have helped keep Lill from joining in to boot Burton. |