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Webkitty | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 06:25 am     next time on Survivor.......... The title next time is: ....pick a castaway, any castaway....the cbs promo blub says that there is a surprise reward for the IC winners. I have been wondering how Darrah, Tijuana and Osten are reported to have gone far this season. Morgan is in a free fall with no end in sight. But, if Burton does convince Rupert to throw the next IC so they can vote off Jon, I can see the path. Note: anyone who goes on Survivor should really study up, NEVER throw an IC to boot an irratating player, you never know what twist is around the corner. If Morgan wins, the extra reward could be that they get to choose one player from Drake. They would choose Rupert. This could be where the "big regret" come in. Rupert was show in the previews being totally against throwing the IC. If he does, and gets traded, and then voted off the next time Morgan goes to TC, the regret would be huge. Jeff said the person who has the regret won't know the full extent until it airs. Jeff probably KNEW how popular Rupert would be, and knew how much Rupert would regret this decision that he was so against in the first place. Now, Drake would be down by two. Sure, they got rid of their irratating team mate, but lost their MVP in the process. I think Andrew's words that Drake's test of how strong they are mentally would be put to the test when they finally lost, was forshadowing. This turn of events would shatter Drake. I think Jon's story arch will play out next episode. He will "fall on his face" and get voted out. Who knows what thing he did to redeem himself. I have learned not to disect every word Jeff says. Remember his: ~someone drives their car off the road~ last season? lol. Just something to chew over while we're waiting for more clues and vidcaps. I could be way off. |
Alaginger | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 06:58 am     CBS: - Andrew and Ryan go in search of a good fishing spot, but instead they find themselves in a dangerous situation: lost in the jungle without water. - One tribe recovers a buried treasure. But will it have been worth the search? - The Immunity Challenge shocks the tribes with an unexpected reward. - Lubricated by whiskey, one Survivor creates a spectacle at a Tribal Council that is not to be missed. |
Hermione69 | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 07:12 am     That is REALLY interesting that her torch did not go out. I agree that is a clue!! Cool! I will be surprised if she is not the one to come back. |
Alaginger | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 07:18 am     "One tribe recovers a buried treasure"....... Okay.....that has to be Drake, so did they do it with only 2 pieces of the map, or does this lead us to think they once again win Reward. Of.....if the pictures from the preview of Osten almost drowning is the Reward Challenge, that once again looks like Drake wins Reward. But......if those pictures of Osten are from the Immunity Challenge, it's hard to think that Morgan could pull a win out of the hat on that one. This should be another interesting week of speculation again......that's for sure!!! Hmmmm? |
March | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 07:47 am     Webkitty, that would certainly be quite the twist if it pans out that way. The only thing is I would hope that they would not turn around and vote Rupert out but keep him for strength, which they need badly. Of course we are talking about Morgan and they have not done anything too smart yet. If all these people were thinking at all they would want to align with Rupert after the merger as Rupert could take them quite far in the game. |
Webkitty | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 09:04 am     Thanks March As Ginger and Hermie can attest to, I tend to get long winded with some of my wild speculations during Survivor I've done some crusing around the spoiler boards this morning and this is what I've picked up. It looks like Drake wins the RC again, and finds the treasure. (Osten has trouble in the water, and I'm saying that is why Morgan looses again) The treasure turns out to be the castaway's personal belonings. BUT, its Morgan's stuff, not Drake's. (wicked twist by MB) This is how they get the whiskey. Osten brought 2 bottles of Canadian Club on board with him that Jeff confiscated. Rupert is convinced to throw the IC. Afterwards, Jeff tells them that there is another reward for the winner. Note: he makes this announcement after the challenge. MB had this in place in case of another loss by Morgan, jmo. Morgan wins, so they get to choose one player from Drake. Of course they choose the invincible "Grizzly Adams" Rupert is furious at Burton, or whoever talked him into throwing the IC. He also regrets it. He might even tell a "big lie" to the Morgans, which Drake might not find out about until the show airs. Now, this next part is what has me stumped.TDT seems to think that somehow Ryan goes over to Drake, and possibly gets voted out that night. If the "special reward" for winning IC is getting an extra player, then just swapping two players wouldn't fit the bill. Maybe, a mandatory swap takes place right before the IC starts. This throws Drake off just enough so they lose it. They vote out Ryan over Jon for some reason, maybe shock, or Jon falls flat on his face at TC in a drunken stupor, and Jeff wants to see him get right back up so they can finish filming TC. Or, jon DOES get voted out as planned. |
March | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 09:37 am     Well this makes sense with what I have read on the previews for next week. One was "One Tribe will steal the others most valuable possession". We all know Morgan does not have one and Drake's is Rupert, so them stealing Rupert makes sense there. The other one I read was "The IC shocks the tribes with an unexpected reward". Which falling in with the other one would mean that Morgan wins Immunity and the unexpected reward is that they get to steal Rupert. Isn't the title of ep.4 take a castaway...any castaway? Kind of fits, that's for sure. This would also fall in with the "Big Regret" everyone keeps talking about. The Drake team would regret throwing the IC as now they have lost 2 people with one of them being Rupert. |
Alaginger | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 12:19 pm     Preview Video at the CBS website is filled with good things to show us for next week.....advise going over there and taking a look at it! Too much for me to try to summarize here. |
Kaili | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 12:36 pm     Hmmm... interesting stuff. The most valuable possession HAS to be their most valuable tribe member- maybe they do an endurance thing and the winner from each team has to switch teams. Why else would we not believe it (as viewers)- we already know about the pillaging. |
Kaili | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 12:43 pm     Okay- changing what I said since I watched it for the FOURTH time and just now caught onto the "one tribe" thing! So then is the twist a seperate thing from the "shocking reward" at the Immunity Challenge? And I would have to say "Lubricated by whiskey, one Survivor creates a spectacle at a Tribal Council that is not to be missed."- that must be Jon. That puts Drake at TC and brings the question of where the whishy came from...from a reward, or was it a part of the buried treasure? It says "will it have been worth the search"... what does this mean? 1- Andrew and Ryan find it while in search of a fishing spot where they were out of water 2- It was liquor in it and that liquor somehow has to do with why Drake is at TC 3- When the treasure is found, it isn't a great thing- the team that finds it has to give up a "valued possession" My head is spinning. |
Alaginger | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:36 pm     Looking at that video.....and making assumptions: In one picture you see Sandra, Michelle, Christa, Shawn, and Jon ready to do a challenge. If that is the right grouping, then it means Rupert, Burton, and Trish sit out the challenge (since the requirement is for 3 to sit out this week). Anything that Rupert sits out, gives Morgan an advantage with Osten on their team, unless it is the challenge where he almosts drowns. I see movement in one challenge which seems to take place in shallow water, and then with the Osten scene in deeper water, I assume that is a different challenge. Also, in the challenge with shallow water it looks like Shawn overtakes Tijuana, and flips her into the water.......and also it looks like Michelle or Christa try to topple Darrah off her perch and fail. I can't see Osten almost drowning in this competition. So, which challenge is which? Have to think on this one some more.......... |
Pamy | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:48 pm     HEY! what happened to the singing???? |
Alaginger | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:54 pm     I just start each of my posts with words that don't spoil anything, and then continuing.....but if you want singing......."Singing in the Rain, Just Singing in the Rain"........ Okay.......forget what I said above about shallow water. They are on planks in the water during that challenge and that's why it looked like shallow water to me. Found some better pictures of that challenge (it's the IC) and I've got them posted in the pics thread!!! |
Webkitty | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:55 pm     Ginger, I'm going to see if I can pull the web promo on someones puter right now.....be back..... |
Alaginger | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 05:40 pm     I can see no reason why both Burton and Rupert should be sitting out the IC unless they are trying to throw it, can you? There are 8 people on the tribe and sitting out 3 for each challenge could be 1 guy and 2 girls for each challenge to sit out, giving 3 guys for each challenge. The other team is not missing 2 guys, so that should not be a requirement that Drake has to sit out 2 guys....so I have a feeling it is an intentional throwing of the IC, just like Webkitty reported in her above post at 9:08AM. |
Azriel | Friday, October 03, 2003 - 08:01 pm     QUOTE - The treasure turns out to be the castaway's personal belonings. BUT, its Morgan's stuff, not Drake's. (wicked twist by MB) This is how they get the whiskey. Osten brought 2 bottles of Canadian Club on board with him that Jeff confiscated. I don't think it's possible that the stuff in the treasure chest is the survivor's personal belongings. The people put their jewelry and wallets in the bags that Osten put the liquor in, so I think it would be impossible for the producers to just give away the other teams wallets and what could be treasured personal jewelry. I also don't think it's their own belongings because when they buried it they had no idea who would still be on the island when the treasure was uncovered. |
Sampatsfan | Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 01:41 am     Perhaps the tribe that wins the challenge gets to pick a castaway from the ones who are already evicted? Isn't it a rumor that Lil returns to the game? I know I am reaching. |
Grits | Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 07:35 am     This might be a dumb question, but how can anyone know who wins this? We know who the final two are, but isn't the jar sealed (and kept on Funk & Wagnell's porch) until the live final show? |
Alaginger | Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 01:32 pm     Normally the ultimate winner in the last show of the season gets to pick somebody from the other 2 that are available at that time to be with them in the Final 2......and usually the winner picks the one that they feel more confident they can beat with Jury votes. So, until the Final Tally with Jeff Probst on stage (or whatever they do this year) we never really know until the Reunion Show.....but if there is a big gap in the jury regarding who they favor, sometimes you can guess it pretty much.......and then again, sometimes we are really shocked out of our drawers!!! |
Whoami | Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 04:04 pm     Grits, you said, "we know who the final two are..." Are you saying we already know the final two of this current season? I must have really missed out on the spoilers if so! |
Alaginger | Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 02:02 pm     Snewser has a green check mark in his tally scorecard for both Episodes 4 and 5, so that must mean he feels certain about who gets booted in 4 and 5. Of more interest, he has downgraded both Christa and Burton from a thumbs up status to a thumbs down status. |
Webkitty | Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 04:41 pm     ......sorry it took me so long.... Ginger, I saw that. (at SNN) I can see how Burton's plan to throw the IC to get rid of Jon might backfire on him if they lose Rupert. I can't see Christa going anytime soon unless she totally falls apart at the loss of Rupert. Also, someone over at the Survivor spoiler board suggested that maybe the treasure is rum and some balboas to go shopping in the market again. There is a report that an "older" female contestant went there several times for supplies for her "boat" (that part doesn't make sense) I would think that Drake would send Sandra since she speaks Spanish. (as opposed to Trish) Rum isn't whiskey (at least I don't think it is) but the clues this season have been off. Now, what intrigues me, is IF Burton is voted off this week, and Rupert falls victim to this twist, who is the bearded man at F3? |
Grits | Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 04:42 pm     Whoami, yes we know the final two for certain. Not knowing the rules here, I won't say who. |
Whoami | Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 04:59 pm     So how 'bout pointing me to where it's said who the final two are? Then those who want to know can look, and those who don't want to don't need to look.  |
Alaginger | Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 05:02 pm     Hey Grits.........if you know who the final two are, and you want to post it here......you are allowed to; however start your post with some nonsensical words or a lead in sentence so that it is highlighted as a spoiler item. Then make a statement that "If you don't want to know......" and then add several blank spaces and then put the information if you so desire! I think that's pretty safe and this is a spoiler thread. Of course, people like to know where the information came from and what there is to back it up. Webkitty.......over at Sucks I read something just recently that infers there are two contestants that make it back into the games....one an older woman, and one a guy.....so if Burton does go this week, he may come back. The information was at Sucks and it is on page 16 of a thread "Spoilers Abound" and the poster is Griffe. Here's what it says: "Re: SNN Article 9/3/03 - Spoilers Abound? ---------------------------------------------- Bumping this to add some information though as always be cautious that locals don't quite understand the game and at times just repeat rumours they may have heard which don't always turn out to be right. . As explained above the 3rd boot wasn't seen so the male description may have been just a generic description miscommunicated from Spanish which uses the male gender when gender is unknown. . There was a report of a challenge involving the prior bootees. The challenge produced an older female winner and a male winner which evidently got them both back in the game. No other description of the winners was available. -------------------------------------------- Looks to me like this person got the information at SNN and then brought it over to Sucks and then I'm bringing it over here. Also, I have another thing that I've been thinking about. Survivor has hidden treasure on both of the islands that the two tribes are on. Knowing that you only get a piece of the map by winning RC and that it takes 3 pieces to find the treasure (unless you luck out), they must have figured it would take 6 shows for both treasures to be found if things stayed even. The treasure is for tribes, not for individuals. 6 shows gets rid of 6 players (potentially) and then a merge (except it is muddied up with people returning). Sooooo.....if there are 4 more shows to come where pieces of the map can be won, I don't think it would be fair to start switching tribe members......I still think the treasure that is discovered this week is the flag that Tijuana digs up at the beach. |
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