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Brenda1966

Monday, November 24, 2003 - 10:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd rather see Jon in the finals than Lil, Tijuana, Darrah, or Burton -- so I guess I'm a fan! He is quite entertaining and playing a good game so far. Will be interesting to see if the women turn on the men or if he can hang in there. He doesn't seen to be as "disliked" by the contestants as he does the general public, so he might not be a good "villan" to take along to the final 2 -- that role my fall to Lil or Burton. Yikes! I can't wait to see his stunts this week.

Kimmykm

Monday, November 24, 2003 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you mean, you like Jon, or you like him in an "Erica Cane" kind of way? He's entertainment because of his little facial smirks, wise cracks and overall cockiness but I can't fathom dealing with that 24/7.

Hermione69

Monday, November 24, 2003 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone really think he is like that 24/7? Come on now, I really doubt it. Most everything with Jon seems to be for the benefit of the cameras. Even Ryan O said in one of his post-boots interviews that Jon plays a role for the cameras and he is really an alright kid.

Pamy

Monday, November 24, 2003 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ITA Hermie! I like him cuz he is entertaining me! unlike Darrah, the invisable whats her name!

Texasdeb

Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He gets an A+ from me on entertainment value (isn't entertainment the reason we watch these kind of shows?)

Webkitty

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 06:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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I expected the lie, I read the spoiler boards, so I knew it was coming. I don't think Sandra fell for it, and the others didn't seem that effected other than Lil, who seems like a mindless sniveling twit who has no business being there in the first place, but I digress......

What amazed me was how Jon was able to turn the planned Burton vote out around to Tijuana! And I DON'T think it had to do with this lie, but his game playing skills. He tapped into Sandra's fear of no food. He tapped into Christa's fear of being voted off. He has ~no backbone Lil~ wrapped around his finger. (and he lets her maul him like an octopuss in heat) And he saved Burton, his planned F2 parner, which he knows is his only shot to win if they get to that point.
He may be the most ruthless player to ever come along, but he knows the game, and is playing it HARD.
I would not be surprised to see him reach his goal. I think the spoilers are off this year, anything could happen.
I bet what he said about his grandmother is right. I bet she is laughing her ass off at his big lie, and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she knew in advance he might tell it if he needed to at that point in the game. Just saying.......

and PS: I thought it was far more heartless of Sandra (who I like) to ditch the fish and then let Christa take the blame. I think Sandra *did* feel bad about it, and can understand why she didn't come forward with the truth, but I still felt bad for Christa. I could feel her angst.

Brenda1966

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 12:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Still a Jon fan! Would I want him as a friend? Probably not -- I doubt we'd have anything in common. But watching him slime his way through this game and PLAY all these people really is very entertaining. He knows what he's doing and I can't believe how these people fall for it over and over. If these women aren't smart enough to team together and take Jon and Burton out, then Jon should go on to win it all.

Seamonkey

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Octopus in heat!!! I love that!

Did you notice she planted a big smooch on Jon's friend?? I bet he was thinking "WTF!"

Jon has learned and turned his head when she tried to pin him on the bench :)

Hermione69

Friday, November 28, 2003 - 07:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm still enjoying Jon! I haven't gone anywhere, just have been spending a lot of time with my family for the holiday these last few days. I guess I was prepared for the Big Lie, because I wasn't as fazed by it as I thought it would be. He actually made me laugh with his grandmother/Jerry Springer comment. I'm with those who think this is between him and his grandma. For the other Survivors who got snookered by him, I'm sorry they got sucked in, but that's the way it goes. This is a Machiavellian game. Jon is a huge part of why this season has been so enjoyable to me. That's not going to stop now. Part of why I watch is to see what he is going to do next and to be amazed at how he is still there and still manipulating people. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." At this point they have no one to blame but themselves!

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 11:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
While I'm not a Jon fan at all, I have some positive things I find about him.

Over the course of earlier Survivors, we have been tough on people who didn't practice making fire, watch any of the shows and learn what needs to be done. Jon went so far as to plan something with his "loved one" to improve his spot in the game (not commenting if it will or won't). It's clear he gave the game lots of thought before it ever started.

He is good at manipulating people in this game--he some how can get people who don't trust him at all to still go along with him (I didn't say that as a back handed slam--I said it to show how good he is at getting people to do what he wants).

He seems to realize he is there to entertain us while at the same time trying to win the game. He isn't trying to do only one of those things.

Lorry

Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 11:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Another reasonable and well said post from you Lancecrossfire. I have to agree, even though I am not a Jon fan per se... I too have to recognize that he is playing a good game... not my kind of game, but then as long as the producers find no fault with his actions, I feel we have to assume that they feel he has not broken their rules.

I hope the bugger doesn't win, but if he does, then I will have to congratulate him. He has been entertaining and he is a showman in that overly aggressive way that is used in the wrestling media.

Moderator

Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reminder: this is the Jon FAN club thread. If you have an "unfanlike" remark, please post it in the Unfan Club thread. Some posts from here have been moved to that location. :)

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Pascalle

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 02:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Love your post Lance and thanks for reminding the differant threads. Let's kick this up a notch kids- BAM!

Pascalle

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 04:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BAM again

Hermione69

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, Pascalle, I think there are only about 3 of us who are true members!

Go Jon!

Brenda1966

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 09:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a member! What a drab show this would be post-Rupert without Jon's antics! Lance is right -- this guy came to play the game. He prepared, made a plan, and is manipulating them over and over again. He's obviously more charming in real life than he appears on TV because they keep falling for his games.

Magicjet

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
member

Pascalle

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 11:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
bumpers

Brenda1966

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 08:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm just wondering what the non-fans of Jon do when they hear "Grandma got run over by a Reindeer" on the radio?! Do they turn the station? Or do they sing along merrily with a big old grin on their face like I do? :)

Kep421

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 08:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This non-fan of Jon simply adores that song. Hearing about a ficticious grandma getting run over by a ficticious fat man with ficticious flying reindeer to me is hilarious. No...I don't feel sorry for grandma's ficticious relatives either.

However, watching REAL people cry and feel pain over a cruel joke isn't funny to me at all. But then, watching someone gloat with glee over the pain he purposefully caused isn't entertainment to me either.

Oh well...to each his own!

Kaili

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Grandma got run over by a Reindeer" was played for over three hours on a radio station here yesterday morning. They played it non-stop until they raised $1000 for charity. I turned the station but it had nothing to do with Jon :)

Serate

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 10:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
" I'm just wondering what the non-fans of Jon do when they hear "Grandma got run over by a Reindeer" on the radio?! Do they turn the station? Or do they sing along merrily with a big old grin on their face like I do? :)"

I'm a non-Jon fan, and it has NOTHING to do with the lie. I did not like the way he lied, as a matter of fact my fiance once got out of work by saying my mom was "near death" and I reamed him for it. She was in a bad state, but was holding her own. I don't cotton to using a person's illness or death as a means to get ahead in anything. BUT that's just me. Jon has to live with his actions. And if his Grandma thought it was funny then the rest of us just need to get over the "it wasn't fair, it was immoral, it was wrong" feelings.

I'm a non-Jon fan cuz I just can't stand his actions. But that probably makes him one of the best players ever. He's [self-edited when I realized this was the Jon fan club] , but he is playing the game by his rules, which he stated he was going to do from the beginning. I don't like it, but if it bothered me that much I'd be turning the channel. Instead I'm tuning in to see how others react.


P.S. I LOVE the Grandma/Reindeer song!

Mocha

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jon makes me laugh and he's playing this game very hard and to win.

Newsman

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 03:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Add me to the membership list.

Can somebody tell me where to find the rule book that everybody is talking about? I'd like to know exactly which rule Jon broke. Can I buy the rule book on Amazon.com?

Pascalle

Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jump the bump members!