Anyone else feel sorry for Morgan?
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Maris

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont feel sorry for them one little bit. I would love for someone to explain to me what exactly Andrew and Tijuana bring to the table with this tribe. I laughed when Andrew said that he and Tijuana had an alliance and were the only safe ones this week. Then Andrew goes on and pushes Lillians eviction. Correct me here, but wasnt Lillian the best swimmer they had? Is it possible they will have more swimming competitions?

They have no organization, and Andrew cant look beyond the pretty face/pretty body to see the value in any of his tribe mates. I am betting he probably would have booted Rupert the first week if he was on Ruperts team. Ryan O would have been the better leader

Tabbyking

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hell, gumby would be a better leader--at least we know not to expect a backbone. :)

Maris

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does Gumby wear Armani?

Lancecrossfire

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't feel sorry for them, as the situation they are in is a direct result of 1) their actions, 2) their lack of actions, 3) the way they approach the game and 4) they way they approach each other.

Maris, you pretty much hit it spot on. They don't gel as a team--they are a group of individuals in their thinking and acting--and the ones who tried and wanted it to be different are now out of the game.

The talents each have are not used well (Lil being the best swimmer, Ryan S being someone who has the mental approach to not give up, not matter how he is doing). Andrew isn't a very good leader at all--he might be a manager, but he is failing as a leader.

Heck, they made Ryan S and Lil feel like outcasts right off the bat. Communication has been poor, considering they seem to almost expect each other to read minds to figure out what they will do and when.

In TC, they indicate that basically they will get a win by it falling in their lap. It might happen. But to expect that to be your best hope?? So far, they have taken the attitude that their losses are the fault of everything and/or everyone except themselves.

Andrew better wake up and realize the potential he thinks Osten has is not going to materialize--not unless Osten takes a completely different approach to the game very soon.

Catfat

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Andrew's strategy is to just hang in there until the merge, he will probably make it. He will have managed to get everyone voted off that he wants gone. After the merge, he can kick into phase two and really begin to play the game. The weak people will be gone and the ones who are left will be the real players. And the least he can say is that he is still in the game.
(Ow, stop hitting me! I'm just offering a different perspective.)

Maris

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Catfat that sounds very much like the defense everyone offered up about Jacks performance in this years big brother. The old Just you wait Henry Higgins approach. I didnt buy it with Jack and I am not buying it with Andrew.

Lance now that you mention it, he might have made a good gubernatorial candidate for a very large state along the west coast.

Enigma2

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, shiver-me-timbers, Catfat. I think you've got it.

My mistake has been in assuminig that Andrew was simply inept (in his 'leadership' and in his choices in which order the Morganites would compete) But your comments have reminded me that Andrew is a successful attorney and not of the 'dim' persuasion. You may be totally correct in assessing that Andrew is intending to get to a merge with the least likable cohorts in tow.

And to Meridian: Your comments have instigated a change of garb from black to dark gray...

Sweetpea1994

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 03:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with eeyoreslament, I hope that the producers let the game play out instead of "saving" the Morgan tribe. They have proven unworthy of saving (except Ryan S. and Lil but it's too late to save them).

Denecee

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Heck no, I don't feel sorry for them, well maybe just a little bit. Why should I? There was no good reason for them to get rid of Lil. I did feel sorry for her.

Seattlemom

Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 04:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Coming out of Lurking LOL the only Thing I feel sorry for is that soon they will pull a switch and change teams members because they are loosing so bad surviver will want to even it out before the whole team dies.They havent worked to improve there life since the begining Did none of them watch past survivers? I felt bad at first Now I'm just sad too see a group of people that cant even comunicate!And have pretty much asked for what they have got

Rupertbear

Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 07:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Morgan ha been the author of it's own misfortune.

In the first place they assumed because Andrew was a lawyer, he must be the 'brains' of their group, so let's appoint him 'leader'....when they had an Boy Scout leader right in their midst!

Then they keep him in that position, even though they are being trounced in every single challenge and nothing and no one is being organized at their campsite to make living there endurable.

Lastly, after Ostens embarrassing performance in the boat & with the endurance challenge & his own desire a few days previously to be sent packing, they vote out their only asset.

Maybe Andrew has already given up & just wants to hang out with his favourites on the beach.

Possibly the Morgan team has been cast as our comedic relief this time around as they certainly are/were the Eight Stooges.

I wish there was no tribe switching this time. I agree...the all deserve to be Pagonged off their island.

Pannie

Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 08:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
RupertBear, what is of special concern to me is that they are gunning for our lovable Rupert-bear, aka Grizzly Adams. Andrew is fixated on large men. Wonder what that means?? (armani wearing wuss)

Your 'comic relief' statement reminds me of Probst yelling "OSTEN! You're sinking your own boat!" LOL! Yep, he's an anchor alright.

Tabbyking

Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i think they should take the first 5 survivors voted out and have them make a third team; bring 'em back-- after feeding them well, teaching them to fish and build a good shelter, etc.--and they can clean up on the rest of the gang! just pop them back in in another 2 weeks!

Needmylifeback

Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nope....I don't feel sorry one bit for them this week as well...they voted out Lil...and they made their bed and they can just ...well, you know the saying! LOL! (Maybe next time they'll be more careful on how they make their bed!)....

Sleep deprivation...they should give the remaining Morgan tribe sme collicky (SP - no matter how I type it ...it still looks wrong!) babies...then they'd really find out what sleep deprivation is!!!!

L144s

Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 09:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I agree with you. I have no sympothy for this tribe. they have made bad choices since they got dressed for the photo shoot and there is no way they will be able to come back from it.

if they win a challenge where they got to loot 1 item from Drake there are so many things that they need that it really will make little difference to either Drake or morgan. Morgan is weak from lack of food, sleep and well being inept all together.
i think An andrew mutany is in order!

Voting Lil out was a huge mistake. She said she took a back seat, but I'll bet she had skills that could have helped them...if she had been given the chance, afterall what is Andrew doing that is making him so worthy of staying?

Oh well, let them sink.
I think the real fun will be when Drake has to start voting eachother off after the merge.
i loved Ruperts comment about the tribe wanting to loose a compotition so they could vote someone off...bad move Drake, morgan tribe has NOTHING to offer after the merge to make it worth it for you to loose anything durring a lC or an IC to have any of the morgan members join in the tribe merge.
I also hope that the "show" does nothing to save the morgan tribe because they have had the same chances as Drake from the get go.

-L

Eeyoreslament

Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point about Andrew cruising into the merge unnoticed.

I think that the remaining Morgan members are the frat/sorority folk from the 1980's movies, who pulled the shirts over the heads of the nerds and only fraternized (word play) with the beautiful people.

They voted out the stripper-type massage therapist because women's insecurity has to get rid of the hottest chick, so as not to take attention away from ourselves. (Classic bar move....bring your fattest girlfriend, so YOU pick up all the guys.) Ti-WAH-na used the "backstabbing" thing as an excuse. However isn't this game all about making sure others get voted out instead of yourself? The massage chick definitely would have upped morale with a few swedish chops to everyone's backs in the morning. But she was a threat to Ti-WAH-na being crowned the princess of the tribe...so she was out...

Then came Ryan the Good. Classic Revenge of the Nerds cast member. And the frat boys voted him out. "Duh! We don't want no THINKER in our frat!! Let's crush some shells on our foreheads! YEAH!!!" Challenges are only on brute force and good looks!! Outwit? That must be another word for looking good.

Then poor sweet deer-in-the-headlights Lil. Nobody wants their MOM around when they are here to party!! Lil could have provided unlimited food, won all of the challenges single-handedly, and fashioned a huge feather bed out out leaves stuff, and the cool kids would have still voted her out. She MIGHT have saved herself if she made them EACH king-sized feather beds, AND picked up all necessary massage techniques from the other chick in the first 3 days....but that's only a MAYBE.

The Morgan tribe are a bunch of adults still acting like they are in high school. Not one of the remaining 5 has brought anything to the table.

Oh PLEASE don't let them be saved by the inevitable SWITCH.

I am looking forward to Morgan winning a luxury challenge, only to send Andrew over to loot, and he picks something stupid, like a deck of cards or something. Or their last bottle of wine. Waterpot-schmoterpot. Tarp? Hey, we've lasted this long without one....who needs it back anyways....

Kitt

Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 11:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I felt sorry for Skinny Ryan and Lil, but now they've gone I am quite happy to entertain myself with this team's demise :).

Laura11103

Monday, October 06, 2003 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I felt sorry for them because they seem to always come so darn close to winning especially the first immunity challenge, they just can't seem to get a win, I'm still hoping they can though.

Auntiemike

Monday, October 06, 2003 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In answer to the original question -
NOPE, not sorry at all.

Lori

Monday, October 06, 2003 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope they do not pull a "switch"! It would be so unfair to Drake. Morgan has made their own bed...let them lay in it!

March

Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 06:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Right on Lori. Why give Morgan any more chances by pulling the old switch thing. They have had chances and blew every one. Too bad.