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Cricket

Monday, November 24, 2003 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with Beruthiel.......everything would end if Jon wins and I too will go back to focusing on scripted TV.

I'm not so sure Sandra will make it to the end. She looked devastated after Rupert was voted off. It's possible she can get the girls to unite. They showed a clip of something like that a few weeks ago, but it never came up in last week's show.

Texasdeb

Monday, November 24, 2003 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
At least if Jon wins it won't be like some of the other "fan opinion underserving" wins: Jon will have <el> hard for this one.

Beruthiel

Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 12:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe they should re-title all of these so-called reality competitions <el>, because that's the way things seem to be going on most of them.
I guess there are plenty of folks out there who wouldn't lose sleep on how they managed to obtain their winnings, which is not the best prediction for the future of reality shows.
I'm really losing interest, and I never thought I'd say that other than as a temporary reaction to current events in a series.
I just came from watching the beginnings of several audition videos at CBS, and Jon was a <el> on his video, so I guess we can blame the producers as usual, for the casting...what else is new, LOL!

Niceguy

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Doesn't it look like Jon is the one that's being alluded to in the commercial trailer tonite? Like he really did something completely out of bounds? Of course it wouldn't be the first time Burnett & Co. mislead us.

Saggkl

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 05:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This year started out so great. I am fast losing interest. Certainly will not miss doing or seeing something else just to watch anymore this year.

Saggkl

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Those girls just gave the game away. What were they thinking?

Cassie

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know, Sag. I found tonight's vote very confusing. Also, where did that big, fresh, juicy fish come from that John and his buddy cooked up shortly after returning to camp? Was that part of his "prize?"There's too many deviations from the rules this time around.

Allietex

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just peeked in the Jon Dalton fan club thread and there is not a single post for tonight's show. I wonder if he has lost all his fans or are they just too stunned to know how they feel?

Caycaye

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I HATE JON!!!

WHAT A _____!!!

IF HE WINS......


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...PSSSSSSSSSS (STEAM)

Niceguy

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I always wonder how previous Survivor players watching the show feel when they see 'stuff'(as clean a word I could come up with)like this. This type of treacherous gamesmanship. You know, like Richard, Brian,etc. etc.

Do they cheer or are they as appalled as most of us appear to be. I'd love to know.

Awareinva

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Allietex, LOL I thought the same thing.... hard to be a Jon fan tonight! Even if it was a strategic move (and if grandma and his family don't care that he killed her off before her time, I don't guess the rest of us should complain :) ), it's still hard to defend the premise of that big of a lie when you know all of America will be watching. Of course, it comes down to "what will you do to win a million bucks?" I guess to Jon, that was no contest....

Kappy

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Saggkl ~ those girls gave the game away tonight. To trust Jon again and to not get rid of their strongest competitor Burton was just so . . so . . argggh!

And how come not a single person questioned Jon as to what happened to his grandmother and how she died after he made such a big deal about wanting so much info from his friend? And how come they didn't question the big smile on his face aftewards? And yes, Cassie, I too wanted to know where that big fish came from and how come the others had to stay away from camp? Did the producers know Jon was lying and not want the others to hear?

Argggh! I curse the sand Jon walks upon!

Bobbie_552001

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Johns actions tonight also really bothered me. A very strategic move I agree but I hope that every grandmother, including his own, hits him with her best shot....

Max

Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ARGH!!!!! If I didn't detest Jon's behavior in this game before, I certainly do tonight. Oh wait! I already DID detest the way he's 'playing' this! What a nasty stunt to pull!

All I can say is that karma sucks when you act the way Jon does. I HOPE that means that Jon gets voted out (best scenario would be if he was #3 - so close, yet so far!), but I'm not so sure these people are EVER going to wise up to his crap.

Pantageas

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 02:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Heh heh. I always thought Jon was <il>, so he didn't suprise me. And for those inquiring, I think the tribe salvaged the fish from what was left of Sandra's Roger Clemens impression the next morning...

Stilllurking

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jon and his friend went back to Balboa right after the RC. Rupert's fish were still there in a bucket. It was not until the next day that the rest of the tribe returned and that is when Sandra "accidently" spilled the fish so close to home.
Sandra admitted that she intended to get rid of the fish but farther in the woods. The accidental spill occurred closer to camp then she wanted. In her confessional, she very clearly stated she was going to carry it farther into the woods but she dropped it.
What cracked me up was Jon taking the biggest fish there was to cook up for him and his buddy. So Jon, to take the largest fish that would have fed the whole tribe, to feed himself and Thunder Dan.
And then after feeding himself so well, he was the loudest voice after Burton. I didn't hear him say, "Hey, I know there were fish because me and my buddy ate the biggest one".
Rant now over! LOL

Djgirl

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Stilllurking - Sandra spilled the fish right after returning from Tribal Council, not after returning from the reward challenge. Burton had followed his nose the day after TC and found the fish not far from camp. They put the found fish into a bucket, and that's what Jon & his "friend" were eating.

Niceguy

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
We've had such extremes on this season's Survivor. The widest chasm would be between Osten and Jon: one guy who refused to continue because he felt it was beneath him and another guy who'll go lower than most people will imagine going to win a lot of money.

Ladytex

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 10:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Blech ...

Niceguy

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 10:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I see Ladytex, you must be a Fairplay fan.

Chy

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Stilllurkig: I saw it the exact way Djgirl stated.
Sandra did whatever she did with the fish as soon as they were back from TC. That's way before the RC.
But you called it soooo right on in the Lie, Regret thread about Jon's lie of a family members' death. Great job!

Max, that's what I'm thinking. Let Jon's "effort" all go to waste. May he be the last one or two kicked off: not even a chance to win, but yet so close.

I also thought I understood Jeff's promo-words as that, the great big lie was brilliant, but did not affect the outcome of the game. The lie did give Jon a chance to show-off his skill as a poppet master. It did give him extra air time(he looks to me as one of those contestants who's trying to use this show as a stepping sool to something great in show biz.). He might've expect food, shower, plane/baot ride... as fringe bennifits but it wasn't there. But hopefully, these five are all familiar with Janna.

It is so horrible that they missed the chance to get rid of Burton! Why isn't there any more talks about how the second chancers should not have a chance for the Mill.? Are they trying to say that Sandra and Christa really belive Jon's lie of being last three with them?
No logic to this new strategy of these two seemingly- brilliant girls!

My turkey is calling me, Happy Thanksgiving, and sorry about all the typos, hope they don't twith your eyes as my husband will say.

Grooch

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 11:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just had a thought. If his lie didn't affect the game, but he later regrets it, I truly hope she didn't pass away right after he told it.

This is one of those karma things I don't mess around with.

Max

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amen to that, Grooch!

Neko

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That'd be horrible Grooch!!

Anyways, I think that lying (usually) has to be done in Survivor to get farther..
But I feel, that Jon's planned lie crossed the line of what you should be able to do to win.
I mean, it really didn't make much of a difference (So we're shown...) other than the fact he won the RC.

Really, if I had been one of the tribe members, I'd start going around to get Jon voted off so he'd have (maybe) a chance to contact his family and find out information.

Either way, I'd be thinking that'd be the perfect time for him to go, meaning his plan would have blown up in his face.
Why they didn't do that, I don't know.

Grooch, the only good thing (And I use that word EXTREMELY loosely) that'd come from his grandmother actually dying (Which would be absolutely horrible) would be that they'd find out that Jon lied the first time...

Just to make sure you guys know, since you can't really get my feelings from a post, that I would much rather have Jon win the game of Survivor (Something most know I'd hate..), and never have his lie found out if it meant his grandmother staying alive.

Just pointing out an effect from Grooch's karma thought...

Pamy

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would still rather have Jon win than Darrah or LIl!!!