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Twiggyish

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm noticing the lizard is shown just before Sandra and the snake is around Burton and Jon. I think Jon is more the snake. (Watching for clues from MB)

Seamonkey

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jon must be thrilled.

Hamsterlady

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hehehe Twiggy :)

Costacat

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 05:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bye guys!! See y'all later!

Twiggyish

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow next week looks goooood... Showing Jon swearing over and over on grandma.

Twiggyish

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 05:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nite Costa..good to see you!

Seamonkey

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 05:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the spoiling..

Twiggyish

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You're welcome it was fun! I love that we each catch something in the spoiling..and Hamster makes it all work!! Love those awesome pictures.

Cruzlvr

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a thought ----- JP said the "big lie" didn't effect the game. I think it did. So far Jon got Sandra and Christa to change their votes last week by swearing on his grandma. Then he did the same tonight. How is this not effecting the game???? Also for previews for next week he is telling Darrah again, I swear on my grandma, I swear on my grandma.

Any thoughts on this?

Hamsterlady

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 06:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Next episode pics

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Had a great time everybody! :)

Hamsterlady

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And thanks Twiggy! :)

Csnog

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Darrah was the target but she won IC so Christa was the sacrifice for Sandra and Jon. Once Sandra knows whos going and its a sure thing she votes for someone else so she can say she never voted for them to go.

Dallasbbfan

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 07:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hamsterlady you are still the queen of screen captures!

Gina8642

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 07:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What did Jon say to Lil that upset her at the lodge? It was wispered and I couldn't get it.

Pamy

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he said, 'no, Lil, we are NOT going to have a threesome'

Cricket

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFL, Pamy! Even Lil couldn't be that hard up.

I already posted my thoughts about Jon and his grandmother comments on another forum. I'll just say what goes around, comes around.

I want to thank everyone for spoiling tonight and awesome pics Hamsterlady. I just got home last night from an exhaustive trip and fell asleep at 5:00 pm and didn't wake up until 8:30 pm. Survivor was over.

I think Jeff was referring to Jon about the lying (Sandra seems to be pretty good at it too.) It's extremely obvious he can't stand Jon and he's trying to help the other players but they are just to dumb to listen. How could Sandra and Christa go along with Jon last week. Huge error on their part.

Seamonkey

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It seemed like Jon and Darrah wanted Lill to settle down and talk strategy but she was hyper, jumping on the bed, etc. Jon made some remark about her flakiness (couldn't catch the words) and she felt he was talking down to her, got pissed off and stalked off to bed, pouting..

Seamonkey

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pamy, I think you are absolutely right.. he was so frightened, he slept on the couch..

Starshine40

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cruzlvr,

I totally agree with your post above which said, "Just a thought ----- JP said the "big lie" didn't effect the game. I think it did. So far Jon got Sandra and Christa to change their votes last week by swearing on his grandma. Then he did the same tonight. How is this not effecting the game???? Also for previews for next week he is telling Darrah again, I swear on my grandma, I swear on my grandma."

IMO it certainly has affected the game!

Catfat

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am so dam fed up with Lil!!!!
She shouldn't even be there, but somehow she keeps getting in on the rewards, she pouts and whines, and the final irritation was seeing her jumping on the bed like a deranged monkey would do.
At this point I even like Jon better than Lil.

Seamonkey

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm coming close to that.. I've decided that Lill was sent back into the game by those who hoped they could go off to loser lodge and never see her again..

Magicjet

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The biggest thing that has affected the game is Sandra's childish snit fit and her throwing the group's food supply away from Rupert's last catch. Then she let Christa take the blame. The voters will realize this and not let her win.

Seamonkey

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 11:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think they will realize that at all.. far more of them will feel resentful of Jon and Burton and Lill.. IMO

Stilllurking

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 02:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
IMHO, Sandra got stuck in a bad situation, she could not admit having thrown the food out once Burton went into his snit fit. It did not effect the game like Jon's lies have. Burton has been catching plenty of fish, no one has gone hungry since the merge.
The biggest thing IMO that has had an affect on the game was allowing Burton and Lil back into the game. Had they not been let back in 2 other players would be there in their place and Jon would have walked the plank already.

Hermione69

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 05:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm enjoying the heck out of this season, but I haven't been posting as much as I usually do and I think part of that is because I am tired of what I perceive to be people's whining about all of the things that haven't been fair.... the Outcast twist, Jon's lie, yada yada yada. I was at Sux yesterday and could not believe the number of people posting nasty things about the Outcasts simply because they were Outcasts. Isn't it time people got over that?? MB can do whatever the heck he wants. There is no fair or unfair about it, really. And why shouldn't Jon have told the lie? All that stuff about crossing a line... whatever! He's still there isn't he? Whatever works for him is "fair." This is a Machiavellian game. The end justifies the means. Same with Sandra and the fish. If it saved her skin, good for her! Jenna used her sex appeal and her sick mother last season and that worked for her. Just because it is not a strategy we would employ ourselves doesn't make it fair or not fair. Especially if it works. Just because it is a person we don't like doesn't mean they shouldn't win or shouldn't still be there. In Survivor, the end truly justifies the means. These people have had chances to get rid of Burton and Lill, the Outcasts AND Jon, probably the most hated villain ever, and they couldn't get it together so more power to those three I say! At this point, I hope one of these three wins! They've defied all odds and all predictions and are still there. That's pretty darn good game-playing, IMHO. I had a real hard time with Jenna winning Survivor last season because I didn't like her, but I got over it and I realized that her strategy worked for her and she really came together and got that immunity streak going in the last few ICs and I had to applaud her for that. This season I am actually rooting for the people that no one wants to win and getting frustrated with the attitude of "these people don't deserve to be here; this situation is unfair; that strategy is not right!" In the end, the people left standing DESERVE to be where they are, no matter what got them there.

All MHO, of course.

Go Jon, Lill and Burton!