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Wilsonatmd

Friday, November 14, 2003 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From the usual location, for WEDNESDAY THE 26TH (change of date that week, remember)

"The Great Lie"


....so this will be the episode when it happens....I wonder who says it, what it entails, and who the victim of it is....

Seamonkey

Friday, November 14, 2003 - 10:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or it could be about golf.

Surreal_Badger

Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
rest assured, after lil's feeble attempts to cover up her breakfast-alliance with burton, this woman is not going to be telling "the biggest lie in survivor history"

Pamy

Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 05:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Badger!

Surreal_Badger

Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
from sblows:

ONE TRIBE MEMBER TELLS THE GRANDMOTHER OF ALL LIES, ON A SPECIAL WEDNESDAY BROADCAST OF "SURVIVOR: PEARL ISLANDS,"
WEDNESDAY, NOV. 26

"The Great Lie" -- One tribe member dupes his fellow castaways with one of the most shocking lies ever told on SURVIVOR, on a special original broadcast of SURVIVOR: PEARL ISLANDS, Wednesday, Nov. 26 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

A heated argument among tribe members ends with one castaway claiming another to be their sworn enemy for life. Meanwhile, another castaway is accused of sabotaging the tribe’s food supply, but is it a false accusation? Despite the tension of competition, a touching gesture of compassion marks the Reward Challenge. Despite the gesture, no one is safe as conspiracies and overheard conversations fuel the insecurities of every castaway left on the island.

And, another tribe member is voted out of their tribe.

MORGAN: DRAKE:
Tijuana Bradley (St. Louis) Rupert Boneham (Indianapolis)
Nicole Delma (Hermosa Beach, Calif.) Shawn Cohen (New York)
Darrah Johnson (Liberty, Miss.) Jon Dalton (Danville, Va.)
Lillian Morris (Ohio) Sandra Diaz-Twine (Ft. Lewis, Wash.)
Ryan Opray (Los Gatos, Calif.) Trish Dunn (Annapolis, Md.)
Andrew Savage (Chicago) Christa Hastie (Los Angeles)
Ryan Shoulders (Clarksville, Tenn.) Burton Roberts (San Francisco)
Osten Taylor (Boston) Michelle Tesauro (Pittstown, N.J.)

SURVIVOR: PEARL ISLANDS is produced by SEG, Inc. Mark Burnett is the executive producer.

For more detailed information on SURVIVOR: PEARL ISLANDS, log on to www.cbs.com/survivor.

RATING: To Be Announced

Pamy

Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great catch Surreal!!! At last some details about the lie!!!!!

Starshine40

Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Badger, I went to sblows and found the post. I just want to point out that above the actual post it said "Survivor 7 Episode 10 press release - "The Great Lie" on WEDNESDAY 11/26"

I wonder who issued the press release? CBS or Mark Burnett's company?????

Alaginger

Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 06:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wonder why only the names of the original Morgan tribe are listed............???????

Kaili

Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 06:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe it was just...you know how sometimes when you cut and paste there are pictures in the way and other things that can mess it up? Maybe that's what happened when Surreal_Badger posted that.

Kaili

Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 06:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah- I just looked closer. All 16 names are there- it's 2 names per line. The first name is a Morgan, the second name is a Drake person.

Alaginger

Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 12:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh........thanks a bunch Kaili!!!

Pannie

Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 07:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, according to the Yahoo Platinum videos, Christa and Sandra (?) were already involved in a lie about food: a missing orange. Christa implied that Ryno ate the orange - which was why he has such vitriol when he voted for Christa last week.

Markopolo's transcript from:
SSucks - Spoilers

"ORANGE THIEF"

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Clip description: Check out a suspicious situation as Balboa investigates a thief on the loose. Did someone sneak off and eat an orange without anyone else knowing? Find out as Rupert and the gang hunt down the crook.

Rupert (confessional): Last night I thought there were six oranges, today we wake up and there's four.

CHRISTA SAYS THERE WERE FIVE...SHOTS OF RYAN LOOKING GUILTY

Ryan O (confessional): I did not take any oranges. Christa says, The person who was the last one over here took those oranges, and turned right around and looked at me. Gimme a break, man, I don't need this. (laughs).

GROUP EATS FRUIT....

Christa (confessional): Somebody was a snake in the middle of the night. It quite possibly could have been Sandra. It could have been any of us. It wasn't me. I wish I could have been a part of stealing the orange. But, this time it wasn't me.

Alaginger

Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 06:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"ONE TRIBE MEMBER TELLS THE GRANDMOTHER OF ALL LIES"

"One tribe member dupes his fellow castaways with one of the most shocking lies ever told on SURVIVOR."

Well.....after seeing tonight's promo for next week, and Jon getting sympathy-type hugs and "We Love You, Jon"........I'm pretty sure it is Jon that tells the big lie, and I bet he says "My grandmother died."

Now I'm wondering if it is to get sympathy and keep from being booted.......or if he is trying to show the producers and other interester parties that he is a good actor. Might be trying to boost a career out of it. Will be interesting to see how this pans out.

Grannyg

Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 06:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
But also remember somewhere someone said that Jeff said (now how is that for gossip) we would end up feeling sorry for Jon. Or that we would be rooting him on. Have I lost my mind? Didn't I read that somewhere?

Hermione69

Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Uh oh. I think I am going to have to stay off the boards for this week. I'm tired of all the Jon bashing going on and if this proves true, it will only make it worse. Although if he does do something like this, that's pretty deplorable. I have to admit that. But I am still tired of the bashing and the pack mentality. It's gotten old and it's taking away from my enjoyment of the show. I bet that is how Webkitty felt last season. Gosh, serves me right. I'm sorry again, Webkitty! (She'll know what for!) Oh well, carry on, Spoilers.

Seamonkey

Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Herm, I know it is hard.. but.. did you like Christy because of PACK MENTALITY?

I simply don't like Jon and would feel that way even if the whole world disagreed...

Alaginger

Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Hermie........I'm just saying what I said because of the way the promo is written up. If it doesn't come to pass, I'll be the first one to say I shouldn't have bashed Jon........but right now, the hype sure looks like something like that might be going to happen!

Pamy

Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Jon, he is entertaining

Fruitbat

Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Herm, for every castaway there are detractors and fans. No need to take it on. Enjoy Jon, I do! If you get upset everytime someone you like gets bashed you are going to be upset all the time!

Seamonkey

Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pamy.. I think Jon really loves Hermi, but I bet he thinks you are very entertaining... snikcer...

Oh yeah, speaking of bashing and liking.. got to go check out Jun's posts..

And i may not like Jon, but I love Hermi!!!!

Wilsonatmd

Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 11:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it might be Jon hoodwinking the others with a sob story....it's a brilliant strategy (getting sympathies to keep you in the game longer), but if it is a lie and it all comes out, the backlash could be very bad for him...especially if he won the million because of it (which he's not, but he supposedly comes close)

Oh, starshine, that info was most likely a CBS press release...they out them out for their programs all the time.

Caycaye

Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ALAGINGER!!!!!

I think you figured out the "LIE"...I noticed the addition of the word "Grandmother" of all lies in CBS promo..and I KNEW it had an underlying meaning....it never DAWNED on me that Jon could make up that sort of lie...but I'll BET you that your theory is right!!!!

What in the world does CBS mean on the site that Christa is accused of tampering with the food supply??? Do you think that could be a lie???That Christa would give spoiled food to Burton or Jon or someone??? Why was Burton screaming at Christa I wonder about "jeopardizing the TEAM"????

Hermione69

Friday, November 21, 2003 - 04:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, Alaginger, that wasn't directed at you in the least. I just felt safe to vent in Spoilers, LOL! Seamonkey, you know that you can dis' Jon all you want and I would never take it personally because we are able to kid each other about it. By "pack mentality" I just meant once it starts, everybody seems to join in. There is not one thread in General Discussions that doesn't seem to take part in it. I tried creating the Fan Club so I could have a place to go, and people would even come in there and be passive-agressive! Fruitbat, I am just too dadgum sensitive, aren't I. I really am!

I'll just have to stay here in Spoilers! Sorry for briefly hijacking the thread! Like I said, I just feel safe in Spoilers!

As far as the Great Lie goes, I thought that Jeff said it didn't affect the outcome of the game? So whatever the story is, apparently it doesn't serve any purpose but as a really big lie.

Can somebody who knows where they are dig up the JP comments on it or point me on where to go so I don't spend my whole morning trying to find them? I know he said "MFer," but I remember my impression was that after that, he seemed rather amused/entertained by the lie, not angry about it. If somebody uses a fake death to garner sympathy, I wouldn't think that would garner that reaction so I'd like to reread what JP said and check my impression.

Hermione69

Friday, November 21, 2003 - 04:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I found it! And it only took me 5 minutes!

From Survivor Phoenix

"Jeff Probst announces on various interviews and TV appearances that this season features the "greatest lie ever told on 'Survivor'." He acknowledges to having been duped himself and states that the players themselves will not find out until the show airs. One article from the Toronto Sun quoted Jeff as attributing the lie to Jon, but a retraction is posted later."

and

"For a time, he says he fell for "the greatest lie ever told on 'Survivor.' "

"It's brilliant. It's brutal and it's brilliant and it totally suckered me," says Probst, who, naturally, won't divulge who told the lie or what its ramifications were. "My first reaction was 'Motherf----r,' and then my second reaction was 'Wow, that's amazing.' "

Would that REALLY have been his reaction to a fake death? "Brilliant"? "Amazing"? I would think that most people would just find it deplorable, like Will of BB2 and the leukemia thing.

Plus, wouldn't a fake death have come out beforehand? Surely that would have filtered out once they got back to the States. Supposedly they will not even know until the show airs.

What do you guys think? Do you think a fake death fits with what the above information?

Hermione69

Friday, November 21, 2003 - 04:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ON THE NEXT SURVIVOR
* One of the most heated Survivor arguments ever ends with one castaway declaring the other a sworn enemy. Christa and Burton?
* Christa is accused of sabotaging the food supply. But is it a false accusation? Maybe THIS is the lie??
* Despite the tension of competition, a touching gesture of compassion marks the Reward Challenge. Maybe this is where Jon supposedly redeems himself? But I thought that would happen not long before his boot and he is supposed to stay awhile longer
* No one is safe as conspiracies and overheard conversations fuel the insecurities of every castaway prior to Tribal Council. Who will be next to go? CBS trying to create the usual suspense. I think it is going to be business as usual and Christa goes.