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Hermione69 | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:24 pm     Alaginger, you are the best! I've been hanging in the threads all day today. I think I have spent more time in Survivor today than I have spent in all the other days combined!! I need to tear myself away and get to bed, but I will come and look at the new vidcaps sometime this weekend!
Thanks again for all your work! |
Alaginger | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 07:28 pm     Thanks Hermie!!! And this is the last of it for tonight!
Appears to be from the finale on Sunday....possibly an endurance set-up. This is a close up.
this is from a distance
and I had to put this one here because I think there are 2 people on the bottom left .... huh??? |
Pamy | Friday, December 05, 2003 - 08:42 pm     God, please don't let Lil win that car! Thanks for all the pics!!!!! I think it looks like peeople too!!! Maybe they are locked in a cage that keeps sinking |
Alaginger | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 04:33 am     Oooohhhh Pamy......that's a very scary thought. I was thinking that it might be JP with a cameraman on the platform and that maybe the players are standing on top of those pilings...last one standing wins??? Right now, I haven't a clue as to what it means. Also, the picture above with Burton and the slingshot. Is that possibly a misdirection. They did a slingshot challenge previously, and I believe Rupert won........so hold off on thinking too much about the slingshot right now until we get some more pictures over the week-end. |
Alaginger | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 05:02 am     Over at TDT this morning....they seem to think that Burton with the slingshot is one of the parts of the challenge/combo for the car....a redo of past challenges. Also, they have my first 2 pictures above of Jon with the "J" disk and the one where I say "the key" linked in with the last pictures of the pilings in the water. They seem to think it is climb up, release a plank, run to next piling, climb up, release a plank run to next piling, etc.......first one to platform where Jeff Probst is, wins immunity. |
Alaginger | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 05:20 am     Clearer picture of the cages behind the players for the RC.
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Hermione69 | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 05:31 am     The thing about the whole three women versus two men thing is how blatant CBS is being about it which makes me think there is going to be some misdirection involved. I do think Burton goes, but maybe Jon votes with the girls? That would fit with "Mutiny," also. Or a woman goes next (F4), not Jon. Think about it.... would they really give us the final 3 so transparently as they seem to be here by implying the women will pick the men off? Just from this, I would say it is almost a given that Jon makes F3. One of the women will go F4. That's my guess. For now. Subject to change! I like that skull overlay with Burton in the middle. I do believe CBS uses imagery that way and Burton is the target. Interesting that he is between JON and SANDRA whom people are speculating have a secret alliance. Plus, they have gotten the animal imagery also-- the snake and lizard. Jenna and Matt got animal imagery last season. I remember Fruitbat being one of the first to pick up on it. This is really making me think.... maybe the source in the Panama Vacation spoiler got the last two VOTED OUT and thinks THOSE are the final two when they are actually F3 and F4. Since the final two per the Panama Vacation spoiler are described to be Lill and Darrah, maybe they are actually the F3 and F4 and we are left with a Jon/Sandra F2. That would be great! Those two have played SO HARD and it would be so cool to have their alliance, if they have one, play out that way. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 05:45 am     Oh, I am thinking hard this morning on my new *possible* theory. The Panama Vacation spoiler has a bearded man in the F3. Per my scenario above, if they missed the F2 completely, the F3 from them would be the F5 boot-- or BURTON as we are speculating. Now a lot of people have questioned whether Jon would really be described as a "bearded man" since he has other more distinguishing features like that hair. Plus his beard is lighter than Burton's and not as eye-catching. Because of that there has been argument that Burton is more likely to be described as a bearded man as his beard is much darker and more noticeable and a more prominent part of how he would be described. So that would fit with this scenario-- Burton is actually the F3 bearded man in the PV spoiler because PV got F5, F4 and F3 mixed up with F3, F2 and F1. This would also fit with the comment people have been talking about all season-- Jon's comment about Sandra never seeing the money. How much more ironic is that comment if he and Sandra are the F2 and Sandra wins??? I don't know how much I really buy into this new scenario of mine, but it has been fun to puzzle out and it does fit together relatively well. If it weren't for that pesky Survivor Phoenix F2, I would be even more inclined to buy into this! Sandra and Jon have gotten much more interesting editing that Lill and Darrah. After the uproar over Vee, MB has not NOT highlighted a winner during the course of the show one way or the other (Brian and Jenna both were featured prominently from the get-go), and you gotta admit Darrah has been pretty uninteresting so far. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 05:52 am     BTW, Alaginger, I do see the two people in the bottom corner of that one vidcap. The one on the left looks like a man and if we are right, that is probably JP, because Burton should be gone by then. Jon is too slight to have that presence. I also don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell of Jon winning this RC over Burton. Jon was having so much trouble getting that boat in the water in the last RC, LOL! Burton is made for this RC. He should kick butt unless he makes a serious mistake. Plus, the wording in the promos suggests strongly that one of the men wins it and takes the other. |
Fruitbat | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:02 am     Sandra saying Lil was sooooo well liked could have been setting her up for a 'threat to win' vote at some point. It didn't ring true because Lil is clearly annoying them and certainly Sandra is concerned about her loyality to Burton. Lil's hand to her face above indicates to me that she is upset about the talk of voting Burton off. She crumbles at the thought lying and changing plans. |
Hermione69 | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:04 am     That's very true, Fruitbat. Sandra could have just been aiming for her jury vote. Not a bad move by Sandra at all. |
Webkitty | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:21 am     Hermie, great spec. I agree with you that Darrah has been uninteresting so far. I don't think though, that it is because of EPMB editing. From various clues along the season, I think she just hasn't said anything he could show. Remember when Ti tried to question her the week Lil went? Ti reported back to Andrew that Darrah didn't say anything. Christa said in her chat that all Darrah talked about was chocolat chip cookies and getting a boob job. I think she has just "been there" all along. I would rather see her win than Lil, but she will go down as the most invisable winner to date. I would love it if Sandra and Jon were the F2. They have put some effort into the game, they are interesting, and they have been opponants since the beginning. It would make for a VERY interesting final show, but I think Snews and SP has it right. It will be Darrah and Lil. ug. I won't get started on Lil, but she gives me the creeps like no other Survivor ever. I will be on the road moving to my new home in Arizona for the finale, but picture me screaming in delight in front of the motel tv if the spoilers are wrong about the F2!  |
Hermione69 | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:27 am     I've missed you, Webkitty! Good luck with the move and I will be screaming in delight right along with you if the spoilers are wrong! I do agree that Snews and SP are probably right, I am just hoping and therefore creating alternate scenarios.... P.S. Enjoy Return of the King! I have been thinking about you and I know you are excited about it! |
Fruitbat | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:32 am     ITA Webkitty. Have a safe trip too. Sandra uses Jeff, in TC, to air the thoughts she wants to convey to her tribe and the jury. We see this every week. |
Webkitty | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 06:50 am     ITA right back, Bat Sandra is GOOD at this game! I hope you will come here and convey my screams if S/J make F2. Lets hope I'm not out of cell phone range at that point. I'll have to make sure I stop for the night near a city and not in the middle of nowwhere. Hermie, I will have to wait until after the new year to see ROTK, but I have been thinking of you and all the other ringnuts on this site too! (Peter Jackson better win the Oscar this year!) I hope to see all the old time spoilers in addition to the great new ones we have, back in these threads for ASS. Bat has been scarce this season too. (the ONLY one to predict the Zoe boot, I'll never forget that) We have followed these contestants throughout the years and I KNOW we can figure this one out! (that mean you too Scallywags!) |
Hermione69 | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 07:00 am     Sandra is great! I would love to see her win. As much as I like and enjoy Jon, I think he may be over the top sometimes and thus alienating jury members. He is playing a great F2 game, but not necessarily a great Sole Survivor game. Sandra IS playing a great Sole Survivor game. I gotta get out of here! I am late to Chuck E. Cheese where I am meeting my sister and her kids!! Again, Ms. Kitty, have a great move and a safe trip! Fruitbat, I echo Ms. Kitty, hope to see you around a lot for ASS. You nailed the animal imagery of Jenna and Matt last season way early on! |
Alaginger | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 07:04 am     SCALLYWAGS ROCK!!!.......Please have a safe journey Webkitty. We will be keeping our thoughts with you............ |
Fruitbat | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 07:04 am     Even the most remote hotels have the networks on cable. You should be fine. Just remember time zones so you get off the road in time. I doubt you will be as far as Mountain but be forewarned it comes on at 7pm there. Oh, and Motel 6 allows animals but not all of them. Call me on your cell when you are about one hour from stopping and I will look on my map program and find the ones who allow pets. I will scream loud and joyously if Sandra and Jon make F2. Remember Jeff said Jon "falls" and you find your self rooting for him or something to that effect. |
Alaginger | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 11:04 am     "IN YOUR DREAMS"...........(LOL) |
Alaginger | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 11:23 am     I love this picture.......
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Fruitbat | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 12:28 pm     I just took the needle out of my arm. Thanks, I needed that. |
Alaginger | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 03:24 pm     Immunity Challenge
Jon working his piling and walking-plank. You can see Lil at the piling next to him and it is obvious he is ahead of her. (That doesn't speak for the other 3 players, though)
With Jon leaning out and placing his walking-plank down, we can see the line-up more clearly of the next row, and can better tell how those things are set up. |
Alaginger | Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 09:31 pm     Few more pictures coming in from the week-end.
Now we know what Burton is shooting at with the slingshot. 3 disks hanging.
Another view of what I think is the II. We can see (IMO) Jon on the far right, then Lil, then either Sandra or Darrah. Stands kinda like Darrah with leg thrust out to the side. This doesn't actually tell us anything, but I thought it was interesting from the other pictures we have seen of Jon, that he appears to be on the outside lane. |
Alaginger | Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 06:56 am    
These pictures are much, much clearer. You can see the water behind Jon, so this has to be the II. My guess is that Jon is putting the letter J on a disk on the final resting place and is probably winning II.
These pictures don't really have much meaning except to show you that Darrah is balancing, probably on the walking planks ...... and that she is sporting a yellow bathing suit .... which I believe she was given last week at the retreat she and Jon and Lillian attended. JP said they got their bathing suits given to them out of their luggage that was confiscated during the first show. So, I guess they got to keep 'em. That may be how Lillian got her black shorts and top. |
Lauram | Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 09:14 am     Darrah doesn't seem to have lost much weight during her 35 days out there. That bathing suit seems to fit her as a glove. |
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