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Loppes

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 08:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder what Rupert would think if he knew Jon told the Morgan tribe that his team threw the challenge.

Whit4you

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 09:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well personally I think that display tonight by Rupert was by far the most shameful of any Survivor - even made Lex's outburst look tame. I don't like Jon (though I do like his entertainment factor) but being treated like that for your vote was totally rude and uncalled for. I liked Rupert but now I won't care if he stays or leaves because he's an extremely poor sport and seems to think that tribe OWES him a win and he seems to expect them to hand it to him on a silver platter.

He was good TV and good entertainment but that was a horrible display of poor sportsmanship. I was hoping for him to win this thing... at this point I'll be disappointed if he does. My new first choice will be Andrew now.

Laura11103

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 09:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whit4you ITA. I really like Rupert but was shocked also at his attack on Jon. I mean, it's a game remember? Everyone's allowed to vote for who they want, and Rupert was totally throwing the fishing in his face. Shame on Rupert.

Catfat

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 10:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What is it about Jon that makes people scream at him? Everyone except Christa has gotten into an argument with him. Annoying little pest. And I still hate his hat.

Watching2

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. I've liked Rupert, but haven't been as crazy about him as a lot of people are, but I thought that outburst was way over the line. It IS a game and you can vote for who you want!! Does he expect no one to EVER vote for him to leave? That's a bit unrealistic. I was glad to see him calm down and tell Jon they'd make a fresh start. That being said, I really wish JON had been voted off. I don't care if does more work and Shawn didn't do hardly any. Jon is just plain obnoxious and I also wonder if Shawn's strength might have helped them more at challenges than Jon who does the work and let's everyone KNOW he is!

Caycaye

Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 11:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll tell you ONE thing....After viewing Yahoo Survivor Insider tonight, Rupert is STILL very angry. He is just about as angry as I have ever seen him, at this Tribal Council vote. He took a good, long time explaining his vote for Shawn. He said that he was waiting all day for Shawn to own up to Shawn's part in mocking and tormenting Rupert from Day 1. Rupert says that Shawn and his alliance made fun of Rupert constantly...and called him a big, dumb oaf in the sandbox..and probably couldn't even SPELL alliance...and when Rupert had no clothes, they ridiculed him constantly. Rupeet siad the three treated him like he was below them. They were never gratedul for the providing he did for them. The fact that Shawn did not admit his part in the bullying, and apologize to Rupert is why Rupert voted Shawn out. Rupert said that even though everyone knows that Jon is a weasel...at least everything ugly Jon had to say about Rupert, he said to Rupert's face, not behind his back like Burton, Shawn , and Michelle did. WOW!!! I didn't realize how sensitive Rupert was. People must really have done a number on Rupert in his past.

Kep421

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 05:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a still a Rupert fan, and I was surprised at his outburst at Jon. I don't believe it was appropriate, but I do believe it was just in the heat of the moment. And I noted that even as pissed as he was, he still made up with Jon.

Its human nature to get angry and respond. Rupert let his feelings out, then reconciled them and got over it. His hugging Jon after the argument and the fact that he didn't vote Jon out indicates he is a man who can be bigger than his negative/angry feelings.

I didn't see Jon reconcile his angry feeling towards Shawn or Sondra...

Neetka

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 07:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I figured Rupert would take a lot of grief for his outburst last night, but I don't think it's deserved. Rupert is human. He got angry, he got hurt by what he perceived as betrayal, and he shouted out that anger - all very normal. He didn't lay hands on Jon and he tried - without a lot of success but at least he tried - to put the anger away at the end of the conversation and move on. That's a lot more than Jon has ever attempted to do in his screaming matches with Sandra and Shawn, and yet (perhaps simply because Jon is small and Rupert is large?) Jon's outbursts are seen as somewhat amusing and Ruperts are seen as threatening. It's a double standard.

Maris

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Unfortunately someone who his huge and is seemingly out of control with anger would be more threatening than some 140 pound weakling. I thought Ruperts display of anger was way over the top and uncalled for. He seems to think that he should be immune from being voted out. He went way down in my views after last night. There is no excuse for losing control like that.

Kaili

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 07:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree- it was ridiculous that he got that upset about getting a vote. Others there have been voted for in the past and none of them threw a fit like that. How dare Jon vote for him? It's a game and people get voted for in it- he took a chance and it didn't work. Deal with it. That's life, Rupert. Then the next scene we see him talking to the camera in his calm, gently voice. He's for sure got ome pent up rage in there. I don't see it working to his benefit either- I can't imagine that he scared anyone into not wanting to vote for him. Big disappointment.

Grooch

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 07:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was shocked last night by his outbusrt.

I was convinced the big regret was going to be Rupert punching Jon and being thrown off the island for it.

He went way down in my book too, last night.

Lori

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 07:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I too felt he was way over the top last night.

Whit4you

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What a difference perception makes, I remember the board outrage over Roddy getting a tad upset with Amy ... and what a horrible monster he was thought of for doing so. And yet so many justify Ruperts completely overthe top and out of line reaction "twist his head off like a chicken" - Jon was playing a game and had a good strategy, he had every right to vote as he did.

People do overreact in the heat of anger but first I don't feel he had a right to be THAT angry - people have a right to vote there for who they want and if he likes it or not that includes voting for him. He thinks cause he catches the fish he's immune... Jon's said in front of the others many times that he works hard there and I've yet to see anyone in the camp deny that even Shawn... there's alot more to living in those conditions than just hanging out in the ocean fishing.

I have a friend who loves to fish and goes out fishing every single chance he gets and there are others like him and yet Rupert seems to think they OWE him a million cause he goes out and fishes... while they cook, clean, gather firewood and so on.

Rupert was my favorite ... it's a good thing I suppose his abusive outburst was against a player I can't stand... had it been against someone like Colby or Ethan - Rupert would go down as my least fav survivor ever after last night.

Jagger

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 10:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Am I imagining things, didn't Rupert grab Jon by the back of the neck when he was trying to walk away from him. I've been reading that people said he never touched him. Well someone Ruperts size can do a lot of damage just grabbing someone by the back of the neck. IMO he should have gotten the boot right than for physical contact with another contestant. I knew it would just be a matter of time before Rupert showed his true colors. I would just hate to be one of the kids that he teaches, if he looses his temper as easily with them as he has on this show.

Whit4you

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup Jagger - when Rupert was looking like he was about to kill Jon - Jon turned to walk away and Rupert grabbed him momentarily by the back of the neck... I saw that too (rewatched it several times because it looked very od). It could be concidered assualt if Jon were to persue it - it'd be nothing between two laughing friends but that wasn't what was going on at the time obviously.

From the several times of watching it didn't appear he applied any force or pressure to the back of his neck but it did stop Jon cold from walking away... so who knows it wasn't a great angle and was a bit dark.

He actually touched him twice the 2nd time by the arm but it was the big huge hand on the back of Jon's scrawny little neck that had me do a few rewinds.

Ninja_157

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great observation. Actually, Jeff was on a radio station yesterday morning (ALICE radio) and he mentioned something about Rupert and how he always touches people when he talks to them. Jeff kind of imitated Rupert's voice and said, "Come here, I've got something to tell you."

Rupert's reaction to the vote was a complete shocker to me. I think it went a little too far. Now I'm not sure that Rupert was picked on by Burton and company like he described. IMHO, Rupert just seems a little over emotional.

Guinevere

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 01:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm shocked (well, surprised) that people were shocked by Rupert's outburst. He's shown hints, quite a few times, that he can be very, well, intense. And that he has perhaps what could be termed, in the context of the game anyway, an overdeveloped sense of honor (which made his vote against Shawn last night somewhat puzzling to me; it seemed hypocritical. Caycaye's post re Survivor Insider clears it up a bit).

I did think he went way overboard last night, and it wasn't pretty. Anytime I started feeling sorry for Jon, something is very, very wrong.

I can see Rupert's good points and bad points, but since the beginning I've been more tilted towards disliking him than liking him. Last night didn't necessarily make me dislike him more, but it bugs me that people continue to defend and rationalize his bad behavior. At this point, I think he could gut and skin Jeff Probst and his fans would still love him.

(The above is just me being honest about something that bugs me - y'all have the right to defend him to the death if you want. I've certainly been there [Nicole, BB2], and done that.)

Kittyface

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rupert's outburst last night did not shock me at all. When I started this thread, I said from the start that he wasn't the sweet person that everyone on the "Love Rupert" thread made him out to be. I said it was a matter of time before we saw the "real" Rupert. Actually, last night's episode was even scarier than I would have predicted.

Not that I'm saying "I TOLD YOU SO!!"

Maris

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was not shocked by his outburst but what bugged me about it was that it was totally staged and was merely a means of getting a message across to the rest of his tribe which is dont even think of voting me out. he knew darn well that Jon was the vote, so what was that WHO VOTED AGAINST ME? It was intimidation pure and simple and for that reason alone if I was on his tribe I would be putting him on my list next. If I was a tribemate my attitude would be hey chief, you have no more right to be here than I do and you do not dictate how I vote. They dont owe him anything for catching fish, especially when you consider he didnt want anyone else catching fish. Try catching fish when Rupert is around, that puts a big target on your back.

He is a strong competitor and he is an asset to any tribe but he isnt the tribe.

Puzzled

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was a shocking loss of control and just plain stupid. I haven't seen Rupert abstain from voting people out.

If I were Jon, I'd really be after him after the merge. In fact, if Jon is smart, he should provoke Rupert into another rage attack so the other tribe can see him in action.

Sunshyne4u

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
{That outburst scared the crap out of me!!}

Rupert has shown, once again, that his arrogance, aggression and SIZE make him a threatening adversary in this game. When he made threats to "snap Jon's neck" and grabbed him BY the neck, I feel he crossed the line and should have been removed from the Game. Who knows, Maybe this is connected to the Big Lie that someone is going to regret the rest of their lives. If Jon truly is involved in "the lie" ......at this point all he'd have to do is say that Rupert threatened his life or assaulted him IN PRIVATE when no cameras were around. Since he knew that the last encounter was being video'd Jon would KNOW he was going to be believed.
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By the way, Did anyone else notice Rupert talking about HIS tribe again? SIGH! I give him til next week.....bet He is GONE! I can only hope....

Pantageas

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I think that Rupert was rude and out of line...

...BUT...

I also think it was a deliberate attempt to get Jon 'cowed' enough to meekly follow whatever the rest of them wanted. After all, Morgan is now Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels (Rubert, Christa, Shawna) plus John and soon-to-be-dismissed-Replacement-for-Shawn. I don't think Rupert "normally" acts that way, but had an ulterior motive for doing so last night.

Allietex

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 11:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why is there so much outrage about Rupert's outburst at Jon and very little at Shawn doing the same thing? His outburst at Jon seemed pretty intense to me also. Is it because Rupert is so large and and loud that makes him seem so threatening with the bushy hair and beard and all?

Woodpecke®

Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 07:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The rage in Rupert's face showcased an instability in his personality. He will be forever known as a bully. My initial impression of him is gone forever. Evict Rupert now.

Lumbele

Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 10:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There is something in Rupert's "scenes" and "confessionals" that makes them look staged or at least "enhanced" for the camera. Are the producers egging him on realising that he will make for good TV or is Rupert perhaps being a big ham? Anyone else getting those vibes or am I completely off my rocker?