Ep 8 Title -- What could it mean?
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Surreal_Badger

Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 09:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Episode 8 -- "What the. . ." (part 2)

Castaways react to the curse of the Pearl Islands; one tribe hosts a wedding.

Airs: November 6


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OK, so there's not a lot to glean from the title. But I'm sure we can all speculate and spoil nevertheless

Pengoh

Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 09:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you think the 'wedding' is the merge?

Alaginger

Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Speculation from other websites are saying:

(1) A mock wedding of the two tribes for a merge with the tribe whose site is picked to house the merged tribe (probably) Drake, hosting the wedding.

(2) More popular is the belief that there is a Panamanian wedding and the winning tribe of a challenge hosts the wedding (with Survivor VII's funds).

(3) Not so popular version is that Christa's fiance shows up for a visit and the Drake tribe gives them a mock wedding.

Surreal_Badger

Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
it seems like many sites are calling this episode 7b, rather than episode 8. so i'm not sure how this will play out with the number of episodes remaining. the cbs website lists 13 episodes, but i'm sure we all know that the cbs website is hardly a reliable source.

Csnog

Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, maybe we won't get a recrap episode.

Azriel

Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It says they 'host' a wedding so I just don't believe that this refers to a merge. They might merge at the end, but I think that the wedding is a real wedding, probably with a feast that they get to join in. They have had traditional feasts in all the other Survivors, so this will be a traditional Panamanian feast and perhaps it's a reward for winning a challenge.

Alaginger

Monday, October 27, 2003 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Castaways react to the curse of the Pearl Islands; one tribe hosts a wedding.


The wedding could possibly be after 2 people are booted off, and 2 ghost people take their place, and the rest of the ghost people leave the show....then a merge of 10 people into one tribe who hosts a wedding as part of a celebration of the merge. Just one more way to look at the words "one tribe".

Surreal_Badger

Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 06:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
or perhaps the ghost tribe hosts the merge?

Surreal_Badger

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 06:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
more CBS promos material (misdirection)

Tensions and nerves plague both tribes as they wait for an outcast to rejoin their camps.

At the first-ever Outcasts Tribal Council, Nicole, Skinny Ryan, Lillian, Burton, Michelle and Trish all have a chance to plead to be voted back into the game. Will Sandra face her worst fear of having Burton return? Or, will Skinny Ryan have the opportunity to face his former Morgan tribe once again? Watch and see.

Two castaways make amends, while another shows resentment at the turn of events.

Johnny Fairplay believes he has a great master plan. But will it play out in his favor?

Alaginger

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The video over at CBS.com shows the TC for next week where 2 players get voted back in. Then shots of a great underwater challenge. And then JP says, "Once again, game changes when you least expect it."

No pictures up on the Internet yet from this video to copy over, but I'll keep looking.

Hippyt

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 09:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well,the players are expecting a merge,so hmmmmmmmmmm,"when you least expect it" makes me wonder.

Fruitbat

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 10:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A team scramble perhaps to lessen the possibility of the outcasts getting booted the week after next and hopefully create some new alliances for the merge.

Azriel

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 11:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fruitbat, they have immunity in the next tribal council they can't be voted out.

Hippyt

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK,I have a question. Does anyone know anything about this supposed news conference mentioned over at SNN? When is it,where is it,what is it?

Redstar

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 01:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Obviously a lot of people think that the tribes will merge next week, but I think that they will! I think that as soon as the Ghost Tribe votes on the two returning players, JP is going to tell them they will merge in the morning. This makes sense - the most effective way to have the returnees mix things up will be to merge immediately so that they are real wild cards in forming alliances. Also, JP said that returnees are "immune at their next tribal council at give them a fair shot at integrating with their new tribe." Note - he said tribe singular.

Azriel

Friday, October 31, 2003 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think they are going to merge. I think they are going to mix the tribes up. In the preview tape at cbs.com. Jeff says, 'Once again the game changes when you least expect it'

If the teams just merge like normal then the game isn't changing. There has to be something different going on. If they mix the tribes up it would change the dynamics and the alliances and give the outcasts a better chance of fitting back into a new alliance.

Redstar

Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 01:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I now agree that there's no merge based on Alaginger's pics of what appears to be a tribe Immunity Challenge.

Webkitty

Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It looks like the challenge is Drake vs Morgan. If Jeff announced that a merge takes place after the challenge, this would be anticipated by both tribes. He says something about the game changing again though. I think we are going to see another twist. I don't know what that could be right now.

Usually, MB devotes a whole episode to the merge. I am thinking the merge happens the week AFTER this next Thursday, episode 8, not episode 7b.

Another reason to hold off on the merge is that the 2 Outcasts could join up right away for a mini-voting block. Probably try to recruit someone else for a 3rd. Ummm, maybe this is Jon's 'master plan' Sandra is another possiblity. Her motto is she will vote for anyone as long as her name is not written down. She will need protection from the Morgans after the tarp incident. I see Darrah as having a long memory. Lil would too, but might overlook this to get a voting block going.
This scenario could still happen if the merge happens in ep8 instead of ep7b, but more probable in a ep7b. merge.
If Sandra doesn't go at the merge, I can see her going the distance. I'm still not convinced of the F2 spoilers. They are not as clear cut as they were last year.

There is also the tie factor. MB hates a tie.
If there is a merge in 7b, after someone wins the II challenge, there would be 9 plus the 2 immune from the vote returnees. 7 to choose from. No possibility of a tie.
If the merge happens in ep8, after someone wins II, there would be 8 to choose from, a tie situation. Would MB risk a tie at the merge? This would be a first. There is usually one target everyone agrees on. This season seems to feature the loyalty issue more than previous seasons, though. I guess it would all depend on who loses the IC this week (if there is no merge) and who wins the II challenge in ep8. If Morgan lost this week, and a Drake won the II next week, Pagoning would commence. UNLESS, Jon and/or Sandra teamed up with Burton/Lil to take out a Drake.

I don't know, spec away...........

Alaginger

Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 09:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Web.....you lost me in the last paragraph. Unless I am missing something .. if there is a merge in Ep7(b), there will be 10 people .... with 3 of them immune, or possibly only 2 of them immune if one of the returning bootees also wins the challenge. So, let's say that 3 are immune and that leaves 7 to pick from......you still have 10 to vote, which could still end in a potential tie (which I doubt will happen since they all hate that dreaded purple rock).
After one of them is voted out, and they get to Ep8, there will be 9 and no chance for a tie since 9 will be voting. Again, this is all based of "IF" there were to be a merge in Ep7(b).

Webkitty

Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger, your right, 10 vote this week. (ep7b) So, the tie possiblity is for this coming week, (IF there is a merge) not the one after (ep8) when there will be 9 people left.
If there is no merge in ep7b, then there would be 5 on each tribe, no possiblity of a tie.

I say no merge until ep8. For now. I will probably change my mind 10 times by Thursday. lol

Hermione69

Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 08:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From TDT--

"Returnees: We've learned that Lillian and Burton are the returnees. (As has Survivor Phoenix)."

So much for my Trish theory, LOL!

Okay, Lillian, it is. Now she is rumored to have won the underwater challenge, so if it is tribal, she must help her tribe tremendously. Right now, it looks like Morgan may win this, from the vidcaps of Sandra and Rupert and if that proves to be the case, then Lillian must go back to Morgan.

If Drake goes to TC, with Burton, how in the world would Burton survive not being booted right back out? Can he?

Hermione69

Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, duh, I just saw Azriel's post that the newcomers have immunity at the next TC. Is this confirmed? I am behind again. I don't see how Jon can escape, but Snewser still has him with a thumbs up. Maybe it is a merge. Maybe they arrive at the IC in tribes and learn then and there- you are playing for yourself. I don't know. I probably should go try to catch up so I am making some semblance of sense. Pay no attention to me. Move it along, folks. Nothing to see here.

Starshine40

Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 05:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From Survivor Phoenix

Survivor Phoenix and TDT have learned that Burton and Lillian are indeed the two players getting back into the hunt for the $1 million dollar prize in Episode 7b of Survivor Pearl Islands.

We have also learned that the merge will not happen this week, but rather take place in Episode 8. As stated by Jeff, both of the returning players get Immunity at the next Tribal Council. This should make for interesting dynamics for this week's losing tribe.

Pamy

Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Lili goes to Drake and Morgan loses and will vote off Andrew or Ryan because Burton will prove to be the real leader and fish catcher

Fruitbat

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 05:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Az. I know they are immune for this week but 6 days is a very short time and they will be in danger the NEXT week as well. That is why a team scramble will confuse that issue.

Hermione69

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 10:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tensions and nerves plague both tribes as they wait for an outcast to rejoin their camps.

Well, duh!

At the first-ever Outcasts Tribal Council, Nicole, Skinny Ryan, Lillian, Burton, Michelle and Trish all have a chance to plead to be voted back into the game. Will Sandra face her worst fear of having Burton return? Or, will Skinny Ryan have the opportunity to face his former Morgan tribe once again? Watch and see.

According to TDT, it is positively Lillian and Burton. TDT also has a picture of Tijuana, mouth agape, with a tiny shoulder shot of the person next to her which TDT says is Lillian's scout badge and therefore Lillian. If their analysis is correct, then Lillian must go back to Morgan and Burton must go back to Drake.

Two castaways make amends, while another shows resentment at the turn of events.

I think this has to have to do with a returnee. Didn't Jon and Rupert already make amends? Who else would there be if not a returnee? I think this could be Burton and Rupert. If Lillian makes amends with someone, I don't really see resentment coming into play. But if Rupert makes amends with Burton, I can see both Christa and Sandra feeling resentful. Plus Rupert is the one who is big on amends. Could also be Jon, and this could be his "master plan" and could be Rupert feeling resentment since he just saved Jon from being booted. In any case, I think the potential for resentment is far greater on the Drake tribe with Burton returning than on the Morgan tribe with Lillian returning.

Johnny Fairplay believes he has a great master plan. But will it play out in his favor?

I have no idea with Jon, but I am betting, for now, this will just be talk for this episode, maybe in a confessional. If he does approach someone, could be Burton, with a plan to boot Rupert again and that could cause the resentment mentioned above. Could also be something like wanting to align with Morgan after the merge and get rid of the Drakes. Who knows?

Alaginger

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 12:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Guys.......I'm having a math problem here!!!

The promo teaser for Episode 8 says:
Pearl Islands Episode 8 Title: Shocking! Simply Shocking!
The ninth castaway is voted off.
Airdate 11.13.03

So a week from now the 9th castaway is voted off.
Does that mean nobody goes this week, or 2 people go this week?

Scenario #1 - Nobody goes this week:
We had 6 voted out during the first 6 episodes, and then 2 last week (even though 2 came back) -- so if you don't subtract the 2 that came back, we are already at 8 voted out and we don't have anybody voted out this week.......right?

Scenario #2 - 2 People go this week:
We had 6 voted out, but 2 came back, so we only count that as 4 --- plus 2 left last week, which brings it up to 6 voted out again (and going) and this week would have to be 2 more in order for next week to be a ninth survivor voted out.

Or am I missing something???

Or is it just a mistake in the promo teaser???

Alaginger

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nevermind........I was missing something???
CBS doesn't count Osten as having been "voted off" (He laid down his torch!!!). So, they count it as 6 voted off, then Shawn makes 7 voted off, and then this week we get #8 voted off, and then on the 13th we will get #9 voted off.

Gee, thanks Ginger for straightening that out!!!
Oh, you're welcome Ginger, anytime!!!

Hermione69

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFLMAO!

Needmylifeback

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 06:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Back up a ways...the supposition is that Lil and Burton get back in the game....and that they return to their tribes...but, I remember something Jeff said like " they will be immune for the next TC to get to know their new tribe"...so I think Lill will be going to Drake and Burton going to Morgan.....

Hermione69

Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
TDT says:

Do
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Andrew will get the boot. They seem pretty confident and referenced Mr. 411's spoiler as being right again.

If that is right, it gives credence to Mr. 411's next two bootees being Ryan and Rupert.

Ark

Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP

Quote:

Castaways react to the curse of the Pearl Islands; one tribe hosts a wedding.



If you watch the Survivor Insider, the Drakes actually did host a mock wedding for Christa on the day that was supposed to be her wedding day. I don't know why they advertise it and then don't show it on the show.

Alaginger

Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You've gotta be kidding me. I couldn't figure out how in the world a wedding fit into that whole show theme, and finally decided the merge must have been called a wedding. What a bunch of hype......and misdirection!!! Shame on SeeBS!!!

Alaginger

Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 05:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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