The Twist, the lie, the regret
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The Twist, the lie, the regret
Alaginger | Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 05:16 pm     Yeah, Pamy, I guess I sure can't see anything brilliant about that. It didn't really get anybody on her side to vote her back in, and I don't think it would have carried much weight on the votes for or against her once she was back in....but I do find it very interesting that each one of those two characters has a different version of what happened! |
Pamy | Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 05:32 pm     that's cuz one is a lawyer!, not that there's anything wrong with that! |
Ark | Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 09:26 am     I don't think the lie has anything to do with alliances, voting or anything else directly related to game play. I think it's a personal lie because Jeff was so blown away by it. I found this in a salon.com article about Jeff's movie.
Quote:There are guys out in the island right now in Marquesas that audience members hate because of the way they are playing. And we tell them that's OK. There are no rules: If you are a lawyer and you come on "Survivor" you can tell people you are a truck driver, or that you have been married 12 times and have had tough times with relationships. But no one has done that yet: No one has come out and played a total lie. People give it up too soon.
This is the only kind of lie that I think would impress Jeff. Everyone expects the players to lie about game stuff but they don't expect someone to invent a home life that isn't true. |
Hobbs | Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:35 am     Remember the porn star that said he was a used car salesman. And then we saw video of his home during a challenge and there was his Cadillac and his white grand piano in a beautiful house. That was a total lie. BTW, Did he win? |
Dreamweaver | Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:46 am     Hobbs - yes he did |
Brenda1966 | Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:56 am     Hobbs, Yes, Brian did win and he did say he was a used car salesman, and he WAS a used car salesman! A good salesman can make a lot of money. So it wasn't a total lie. He may have forgotten to tell them he made some money in the "movie" business, but saying he was a car salesman was true. |
Zgoodgirl | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 12:42 pm     I posted on General Discussion thread also, since there are 2 threads with the same name. I don't know if this means anything, or if someone already mentioned it. But on my excite homepage, I keep my favorite tv shows up, and they show up to two weeks in advance. The 10th episode (I'm thinking it's the 10th) which shows on the 26th (Day before Thanksgiving thank goodness!) is titled "The Great Lie:" Hmmmmm. |
Alaginger | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 01:20 pm     Well, thanks Zgood..........that clears that up, doesn't it. At least now we know when the lie airs........thanks goodness!!! |
Spikefan | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 04:44 pm     What if the Big Lie had something to do with the family member being brought back? I can't get out of my head that something could happen like Rupert comes back as Sandra's husband Now THERE would be a big lie |
Seamonkey | Friday, November 14, 2003 - 10:11 pm     And a big surprise to Rupert's wife .. But "Great Lie" not "Big Lie".. other than a golf term, wonder what subtle difference there is?? |
Redstar | Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 01:00 pm     Hmmm... actually, the idea that two of the contestants might be related is an intriguing one, especially if they are in a romantic relationship. It would make for a powerful alliance dedicated to advancing at least one of the two to the finals. It would be extremely difficult to hide the relationship, though. If they were successful at it, it would certainly have the potential for JP to say MF. And remember, while we viewers may well recognize/realize/be told the lie, according to JP the contestants won't know until it's revealed on the TV program. So Rupert will not be reappearing as Sandra's hubby. LOL |
Seamonkey | Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 01:51 pm     Jon is the misbegotten love child of Brian and Tina? |
Pamy | Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 04:41 pm     LOL Sea |
Brenda1966 | Monday, November 17, 2003 - 12:53 pm     Can a golfer explain the difference btw "great" lie and big lie? Also, during the breakfast with Lil and Burton, when Burton held up his fingers, made a pledge, and said something about being a boy scout -- my thought was "there's our big lie". Maybe Burton lies to Lil about being a former scout so that she'll like him. Yeah, I know it's lame, but these "great" surprises that Jeffy always talks about are usually a let down. Maybe this was already covered, but does anyone know if Burton was a scout? I don't recall any boy scouts at my school being that good looking. |
Maris | Monday, November 17, 2003 - 03:36 pm     My money is on Rupert telling the big lie. Rupert is the overwhelming favorite and the survivor that nobody would expect to be deceptive or lie. That is why Jeff is shocked and impressed. |
Grannyg | Monday, November 17, 2003 - 04:22 pm     Good thinking, Maris. I agree that it has to be big for Jeff to be shocked. |
Seamonkey | Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:56 pm     I was sort of joking, but even tho I'm not a golfer, most of my family loved or loves golf.
Quote:lie - 1. the quality, manner, style, way, or position of a ball on the ground (e.g., good lie, bad lie, downhill lie, uphill lie, sidehill lie, fluffy lie, etc.) 2. can also refer to the number of strokes taken up to the current moment on a given hole when the ball is at rest. Example: "My drive went into the rough but I had a pretty good lie and got onto the green without any trouble". 2. "I was lying 3 and hitting four after I dropped out of the hazard." lie angle - the angle between the sole of the club and the shaft from the face view (looking at the face of the club straight on). Example: I had my lie angles adjusted because my divots were too deep in the toe.
I also thought that when Burton did the eagle scout pledge that it could have been the lie... considering that the pledge would be significant to Lill. Yes, Burton was an Eagle Scout. |
Tabbyking | Monday, November 17, 2003 - 10:04 pm     maybe one contestant has two spouses show up! |
Pannie | Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 07:16 pm     one of the spouses might be Neheh! |
Alaginger | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 06:04 am     Oh, My Heck!!! |
Jeep | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 06:31 am     And I bet she'll have a mint in her mouth to share! |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 07:01 am     and that damned tattoo just beating Square to the punch |
Ginger1218 | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 08:11 am     My sister said, maybe one of them is not the gender that we think they are LOL, something to think about. |
Bidasea | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 09:12 am     Does anyone think Darrah is a little young to be a Mortician?? And Jon does not look like any kind of a Wrestler to me..You could blow him over LOL |
Danzdol | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 09:47 am     They don't show much of Darrah talking. WE have hardly seen anything about her. She is as quiet as a mouse, at least in the edited version. Maybe it has something to do with her. |
Fruitbat | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 10:37 am     We didn't see much of Vee either and she won. My theory is that editing means little in terms of plot. They choose the most interesting footage and if you are not interesting you just don't get air time. Entertainment is first on the list. The lie is told by a man. The word 'his' and 'he' has been used in the promos. Burton or Jon. |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 01:07 pm     turtletattooooooo! we are cluelesssss! |
Seamonkey | Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 01:08 pm     But the regret... the word "regret" is used in reference to Lill this week... |
Cinder | Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 08:20 pm     The TIVO description for next week says the lie is from a "he" Most likely Jon after watching the previews. |
Cinder | Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 08:44 pm     Just read the thread for Episode 10. The description is in there. |
Miggles | Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 10:59 pm     Could the lie be that Jon and Sandra are actually happily married? |
Rabernet | Friday, November 21, 2003 - 04:35 am     Cinder, I agree with you. I think the preview where he's really upset and everyone looks shocked is Jon telling the lie and pulling them into whatever story he's told them. |
Crazydog | Friday, November 21, 2003 - 08:52 am     I think next week will be the family reward challenge. I think Jon and whoever comes to see him is going to cook up a lie that a family member has cancer, and that they need to raise $500,000 to cover the cost of the treatment. I think people will feel sorry for him and keep him around longer than he deserves. |
Starshine40 | Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 12:30 am     from Survivor Fever and Survivor News (both) an audio of the Haber and Erin show 11/24 with Jeff Probst. (an excerpt) There was some talk of Osten/Jeff's relationship and also Jon/Jeff's relationship. Jeff said, "For the finale show I would bet Jon won't have any problems with me cause Jon is playing this game and he knows I'm helping him play the game by picking on him. That's the role he took." Haber then brought up the subject of the big lie and said his prediction is "Last year everybody got mail from home. We saw (in the promos) Jon being very upset. My prediction is that Jon is going to get mail from home saying that somebody died. He's going to tell his tribemates to get sympathy." Jeff then laughed and said, "I hope to hell that happens. It is hilarious in a dark way. It starts the second the episode starts, the sparks start flying." |
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