Rupert Kissing Butt Big Time ?
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Rupert Kissing Butt Big Time ?
Lorry | Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 08:45 pm     Now this is just my sort of being the Devil's Advocate here, but did anyone get the idea Rupert was just a bit tooooo happy to be home? I mean, what was with that kissing Jon deal? rofl Then it's Rupert and his women in a love huddle. And I love his arrogance, but is he a tad too arrogant??? OK... all of us Rupert lovers (myself included) see it totally as though he doesn't have a disingenuine (SP?) bone in his body... but are we just being played??? hehe Even so, I just love that man! So what do you think??? A little tooo much "honey" in that teddy bear? |
Pannie | Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 09:09 pm     Lorry, I thought your thread was going to be about Rupert kissing Andrew's butt during the pseudo-looting. What was up with that, too? Why was Rupert in control, not the looter, Andrew? Why was Rupert offering more rice than what Andrew wanted? Why didn't Andrew take the entire can? I was shocked at the negotiation parlance. I guess Andrew had more humility from being previously victimized, but jeeze... Was all this about secret aliances or gaining possible jury votes? <Odd...I'll do more thinking about this. Oh, and back to your items: everyone always hugs Rupert after winning. He's their touch-stone. Remember when Jon jumped on Rup after the tug-of-war? He must be a real touchy-feeling mentor type of guy. Honey is sticky to the touch... LOL! |
Tabbyking | Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 09:27 pm     i think he is walking a fine line and is aware of it. so he loves on his tribe, but also wants to 'seem fair' to his alternate tribe. it looks as if he is playing both sides (giving extra rice to andrew but telling him it would not be cool to take all the rice, like a confidant; making sure to comment in front of drake that he has learned some things about morgan--insuring he will be around for at least another several days, because they will want to learn from him about morgan before the merge.) it will probably bite him in the tush when they merge and everyone realizes how strong and pretty much likable rupert is and doesn't want to be with him in final 4, 3 or 2. i am just glad we don't seem to have any heidi or jenna types this year. i am also still disgusted that jenna won! will i ever like a survivor winner, do you think?! |
Fabnsab | Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 09:38 pm     I think Rupert did the best he could in what could have been the worst situation for him. The Drake tribe could have been angry that Rupert worked his butt off to win luxury for Morgan. They could have been talking about him all night, thinking he is switching sides. He did not know what he was coming home to. I would have kissed butt too. Also, I think he is a loyal guy and Drake is his family. I think Morgan was in awe of Rupert so Andrew was willing to listen to anything Rupert suggested. This could be the best place for Rupert in this game or the worst. If he sticks with Christa, Trish, and Sandra, I think he'll be ok. They seem like a loyal 4some. The women WILL keep him, for fishing if anything. Also, Morgan now has someone on the other side so when they merge, they'll have someone to anchor themselves to. He could be very safe on both sides for a long time coming. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 09:38 pm     It worked.. you did hear Andrew state that he hoped to be on the Drake tribe (or merged) in a few days.. And I think Rupert wanted to steer him far away from the fishing spear, the tarp and the sewing machine. |
Flamingo | Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 09:43 pm     i'm on the Rupert train big time, but he really is walking a fine line. His whole point in winning the reward challenge for Morgan was to show Drake how indispensible he was? This could (and likely will) back fire big time after the merge. And showing Drake his bond with Morgan (while Andrew was "looting")won't sit well with them after the merge either. That said, his alliance with the Drake women (Christa, Sandra & Trish) does seem strong, though who knows what the editors have been hiding. As much as I'd love to see him in the final 2, I doubt he'll last long after the merge. I'd put money on him showing up at the next Survivor the "All Star edition", though. As lame an idea as this sounds, I'd watch it if my Rupie was there. |
Pannie | Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 09:45 pm     Good analysis Tabby, Fabns, and Sea! Thanks for your incite. I was confused. So, Andrew's wanting to move up to the Drake tribe. Quelle surprise? He's quite the leader.  |
Pamy | Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 09:49 pm     Why wasn't Andrew in control??? Cuz he is no leader and I think after watching Rupert he knows it!!! |
Lycanthrope | Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:03 pm     Rupert ain't kissin' anyone's ass! He's the best player since Rich Hatch. Mark it down. He may not make it to the final 2, but he's one of the best Survivor game players ever. |
Sunrvrose | Friday, October 17, 2003 - 12:11 am     I love Rupie, don't get me wrong, but he did seem just a bit bold in his statements about controlling "two tribes". I would soooo like to see him win, but I gotta feeling that the others will vote him off due to his strength, and we'll end up with another stupid weak player final. |
Fruitbat | Friday, October 17, 2003 - 01:57 am     Sea and Lycan, I agree. Rupert was definately steering Andrew to the rice for good reason. Andrew could have taken their spear and that would have been the smart, competitive thing to do. You want to lower the moral of the opposing team. Andrew is an ineffectual leader and lousy player at best. Rupert is the shining star and is playing a great game. His charisma surpasses any previous Survivor. |
Starshine40 | Friday, October 17, 2003 - 04:06 am     I think Rupert steered Andrew to take the rice because he knew (he said) that they only had about 2 more meals of rice and 2 of beans and wanted them to have something that they really needed yet that would not hurt his own tribe to give up. |
Fruitbat | Friday, October 17, 2003 - 04:24 am     Yes Starshine, he is a kind man as well but playing the game. He mentioned at TC that he hoped he could use the info he found out about Morgan against them when they merge. The simultaneous truth is that he clearly likes them. He understands the game and is playing well thus far and always thinking. |
Missy2 | Friday, October 17, 2003 - 04:37 am     I think Andrew did the right thing. As of now his tribe is down people. SO when they get to the merge if he has friends it will be easier - don't you think? |
Fruitbat | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 04:41 am     yes. |
Maris | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 05:27 am     Rupert had already prepared his team for the looting of food. When they asked him about Morgan one of the first things he told them was that they had no food and were in bad shape. I also would not be surprised if he told his team that he would steer Morgan to the rice. The editors wouldnt show us a conversation like that because they like the drama of the looting. I am also guessing that Drake discussed the lootin gand nominated Rupert to give them the stuff since he had been on their team and to keep it friendly |
Fruitbat | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 05:35 am     I agree Maris. It is nuts to even consider Drake did not discus the looting and how it would be handled. They went over Ruperts visit in detail as well. |
Justalittlebean | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 06:42 am     According to Michelle, they didn't lose the luxury challenge because Rupert wasn't there, they lost it because their strongest player Burton, was voted off. Which I about fell off my chair laughing when I heard that. I don't think Rupert needs to kiss anyone's butt. |
Enigma2 | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 07:35 am     I tend to agree that everyone is trying to 'place' themselves so as to be safe at either a 'swap' or 'merge.' And Rupert was flawless. I sat there for the hour on Thursday with a constant smile on my face. Rupert is not only a nice guy, but he knows how to play the game. That big hug for Jon (who I'm sure Rupert destests) was good game-playing. And I nearly laughed out loud while watching him control being looted. (I may even get to like snakes...) And Flamingo makes good point: I was not looking forward to 'celebrity' Survivor (sometimes you can't go home again). But if Rupert is there, I'll be watching... |
Teachmichigan | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 10:49 am     There was a special clip on Yahoo Platinum about the whole looting issue. Andrew and Rupert had a "handshake" deal. If Andrew looted Drake, Rupert would make sure the bag of rice was pretty full. If Drake looted Morgan, Rupert would make sure they didn't take Morgan's only pot. Andrew then tells Rupert, "After this is all over, if you ever need any legal advice, you just let me know." Andrew tells the camera he thinks this deal helps him out for later...having built rapport w/ Drake and all. Have to add my own two cents, too. Andrew says a couple of things in this 1 1/2 minute clip that make him seem more arrogant. He says he'll be the looter, "having been elected their leader and all." And then to "offer legal services"...I'm guessing it was just a "gesture of friendship" (offering what little he has to offer), but the way it was edited made it sound a bit arrogant. Anyway...take it for what it's worth. |
Pamy | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 10:52 am     Thanks Teach, I love the behind the scenes info! |
Csnog | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 07:11 pm     I don't think Rupert is kissing butt. We are seeing more of him than any other single player because MB knows he has star quality. Mark Burnett probably saw exactly what we see and is playing him up big time knowing full well that Rupert is drawing in a viewing audience. The 2 players from his tribe that have been planked seem to dislike "The Rupert show". MB doesn't, he's milking every last drop of Rupert while he has the chance. |
Donut | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 08:14 pm     i think Rupert was phenomenal on this last show.. and this is a pretty objective opinion, because I was not a big Rupert fan.. I mean, I knew he was a perfect character for the show, but he reminded me personally of people that i knew that were horrid, so I couldnt warm up to him and was waiting for him to erupt, but I thought he did an amazing job this week and I am now on the Rupert bandwagon(with some caution) I think that the producers set him up in a difficult position by setting up a situation that would ensure that he would end up on Morgan for a while( i think the show is being scripted and planned around him , and for good reason) and I think he was amazing and did the best he could under the circumstances.. My only slight cringe came when he spoke at the tribal council, because that kind of talk has been the downfall or others before... I think everyone will be tempted to vote him out soon because he is such a threat, but i think noone will want to or dare to vote him out because they all know that he is the most deserving thus far... it should get interesting.. |
Donut | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 08:19 pm     oh yeah, also, when he spoke about power over the two tribes,i thought he was just being very intelligent, upfront and honest.. he knew what was going on and that it could put him in a tough spot. He has been the narrator for the show and he was just narrating his own predicament with the same "Rupert journalism" that he uses for everyone else.. |
Catfat | Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 09:29 pm     Somehow, I think we are seeing something very primal here, the bull of the tribe protecting the women, bringing home the food, keeping everyone warm and sheltered. Hopefully, Rupert can "gather his girls" around him in an alliance and they will protect him the way he has taken care of them. The women seem to gravitate to him much more so than the men do; the men are definitely waiting for a chance to challenge their leader. These are not weak women, they are strong physically as well as intellectually, and still they are leaning to the bull to be the leader, at least for now. If I were a woman in this game, I would ally myself with Rupert and as many women as I could convince, then pick off the men one by one. And in the meantime, I would win as many immunity challenges as I could and forego the reward challenges. Rupert kissing butt? Why would he have to? |
Csnog | Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 07:10 am     Michele stated in one of her interviews that Trish was the leader of their tribe letting Burton think that he was the leader. Michele was aligned with Shawn and Burton while the 3 other females are aligned with Rupert and maybe Jon who plays both sides. Rupert should have a friend or 2 from the other tribe when they merge unless the "big lie" is about him. |
Chy | Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 12:48 pm     I see it like Catfat does. The women do remember who's taking care of them. First thing comes to my mind is the selfish act by Shawn, Burton & Michelle when they first landed and were all busy getting situated. One of the guys chopped open a cocnut and the three of them were the only ones invited to share the juice. That was before they found the water "well". I think Sandra & Christa commented about it w/ v.o.. Second time the ladies have to remember is when Rupert came to them and revealed Burton's plan to vote out Christa. If Rupert would to join that triangle, regardless what Jonny Fair-play does, the three ladies would have been picked off one by one before the merge could come. (Now it looks Shawnn or Jon could be the next to go.) These ladies are serious about the game as I think they are, they ought to tie themselves with Rupert even after the merge. At the same time, the ladies might be Rupert's chance also. If this foursome is real instead of a merage by editing, it should keep them all safe for a while. Of course I'm assuming that all Drake people would plan to stick together until they got rid off what little left of Morgan tribe. I'm thinking they sure should get rid of Osten, Andrew and T(annoying, can't remember her name) before they turn on each other, but who knows..... Jon is in his own silly cloud. He's probably like those BB players, all intoxicated on how famouse, loved-by-women, well-sought-after... he'd be after the game. He think he's playing the game by having all those different alliances, but he's so "out there" he has to know he's not well liked. He is going to be easily rid of. We've seen at least two big altercations between him and Sandra already. I'm sure his name comes up often as the "next to be ridded of". If none of the allies we see are real, could Rupert just win IC every time after the merge? I have not notice anything he's bad at, have you? I mean, other than the fact that he's the strongest phisically, he seems to be smart and sensitive about others. I'm sure he has studied previous games, and are collecting team mate's info and all that. What kind of an IC will actually challenge Rupert? I wonder if he had given game producers headaches and forced them to take alternative plans? Can't wait to see interviews of Rupert after the whole game, but I'm welling to waitfor a long time. Here's hoping that Rupert will go far!! |
Kitt | Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 01:02 pm     I'd forgotten that there are individual immunity challenges after the merge, I think Rupert does stand a good chance of winning a few of them, but if he does, this will put an even bigger target on his back for the times he doesn't win. It's sad, but even as the best 'Survivor', I still can't see him getting that far beyond the merge. I wonder if the viewership numbers will drop off after Rupert goes (if he does). I'm enjoying this season more than the last few, and it's mostly to do with Rupert. The producers are going to hate to see him go. |
Laura11103 | Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 01:11 pm     Kitt ITA, I think Rupert will not win and he will have a big target on his back. I hope we're wrong but he's just to strong. I know the show wouldn't be the same for me if Rupert goes, he's so amazing. He's just a big teddybear, and he's so nice to everyone, definitely the most loveable survivor yet IMO. |
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