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Alaginger

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just caught this picture over at TDT where they spell out that right next to Tijuana's shoulder you can see a part of Lillian's patch to her Boy Scout Uniform.
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Hermione69

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Normally, I wouldn't think they would have time for a RC, what with the GT having a TC to vote in two people, but I think the "hosts a wedding" must be the RC. Nothing else is really logical to me, especially as it is one tribe that hosts it.

If Lillian is back at Morgan as suggested in the picture above, and there is also a spoiler that she wins the next underwater challenge (which is believed to be for immunity), maybe she helps win the next challenge and it ends up being REWARD. The challenge shown in the vidcaps above is obviously an underwater challenge. I think it must be the RC. Then the Morgans get to host the wedding which will doubtless have food. That would also explain Sandra and Rupert looking upset.

The reason I don't think the vidcaps are of an IC win is because Lillian has the spoiler for winning this underwater challenge and she seems to be back on Morgan, yet I think it is a Morganite who will be booted, so if they win the challenge above, I'm guessing it to be the RC.

I think a Morganite is booted because if Drake loses the IC, I don't see how the bootee can be any Drake other than Jon (or Rupert in a stretch), but Snewser and TDT both have continued to believe that Jon sticks around a bit longer and TDT believes Rupert is safe. So Drake, IMHO, MUST win the IC or Jon or Rupert would be toast. I guess it could be argued that Rupert goes, but that doesn't seem very likely to me. I don't see Burton and Jon convincing either Sandra or Christa to turn on Rupert. Jon's "master plan" -- could be anything. I hope we get the big lie, finally. I can't wait to hear what he came up with, although I am inclined to think this statement of Jon's "master plan" is misdirection or overhype by CBS, for this episode at least, and won't play out just yet. He's probably just talking in a confessional about his plan!

Alaginger

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 02:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermie......TDT seems to think that this water challenge thing is IC. For some reason they are calling what happened last week an RC (like a reward for the winners to get back in the game and two people had to leave for that to happen...even though they went to a TC to vote).

JP says something about another change. I'm wondering if the loser of this water thing has to go to TC and vote somebody out, and the winner gets to host a wedding. That would be different. It would be an RCIC or an ICRC, whichever you prefer!!! There just is not enough time in one show for a 10-minute vote somebody back in, go over and join your tribe and mingle, then have a nice water challenge, then go have a wedding, and then go have an IC, then go to TC. Not unless it is a 2-hour show (LOL).......

There is something going on, that's for sure!!!

Hermione69

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It does seem to really be pushing it time-wise!!! If it is the IC, I think Drake must win. Maybe the Lill spoilers apply to individual ICs which will probably start next week. But for them to have two underwater challenges? That seems strange also.

Okay, this is clipped from Snewser's Panama Vacation article.

"An older woman wins and returns to the game. This is the reason for the spare rations and harsh conditions at the Ponderosa. Once this contest is decided, the double losers finally get a vacation and presumably better rations - at the Gamboa resort.

Sources tell us this superwoman goes on to win another challenge right after the first one. One of the challenges involves an underwater endurance contest where players have to pick up items."

Okay, I'm looking at this differently now... It doesn't specifically say that the underwater challenge is the one she wins. It says she goes on to win another challenge after the first. So which challenge is counted as the first-- last week or this week? I could make arguments either way. So if we discount the Lill challenge spoiler, I see no reason why Drake can't win. I was basing my premise on the spoiler that she wins the next challenge.

More support for it being an IC like you said, Alaginger-- it is very odd that more screencaps haven't come out of a 2nd challenge if there are two.

So I'm guessing Drake does win it for the reasons I listed in my earlier post. What that means for the Lill spoiler is anyone's guess. Did the person get their info wrong or does she win next week? Andrew gets my vote for the boot right now. I can easily see Darrah and Ryan O. teaming up against him with Lillian. I would put my money on him before Tijuana, and Ryan and Darrah are supposedly too tight to turn against each other so they are a voting bloc that Lill would probably be happy to join.

Alaginger

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 03:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with all of that Hermie......what really is throwing me is why there is not even one picture of a wedding. I would think that CBS would want to hype this for publicity reasons.
Oh Well........we can't figure everything out!

Alaginger

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just cut and pasted this from a T.V. Guide with MB regarding the outcasts coming back. Notice he calls the challenge an RC!

"However, in order to keep some sense of fairness, the Outcasts were kept on meager rations while they were off camera. Plus, they weren't even sure what they were playing for. "They had no idea they had a chance to come back in the game, until Jeff Probst said it," Burnett explains. "I went to each of them the day after they were voted out and said, 'It is not over. You are going to get back in for one more reward challenge. The reward is going to be a great reward and something you'll really want.' They were probably thinking it was a big vacation!" "

Hermione69

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Remember the spoiler about the plane flying out of Contadora (or however you spell it)? Supposedly Shawn and Jon were the last two to fly out. Well, Shawn definitely left because he didn't have a shot at.... never mind, I forgot about Osten. Osten would have left with Shawn, right? So that discounts THAT spoiler. I was getting ready to make a case for Jon going, despite TDT and Snewser indicating he is safe, but Osten kind of throws that one, LOL. Wouldn't both of them have been flown out to Gamboa?

Can't say I am upset... as one of the few people who thinks Jon is highly amusing, I want him to stick around.

Hermione69

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, Ginger, so if it was referred to as a REWARD challenge, that could mean that it was not the challenge being referred to in the spoiler that says the superwoman went on to win the next one. This week could be that challenge and then next week's would be the won she wins. We'll have to see what next week brings.

We are not overanalyzing much, are we? LOL!

Alaginger

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 05:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who Me??? Overanalyze.........??? Never!!! (LOL)

Pamy

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 06:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why would Lil even compete in an IC, she has automatic Immunity after she comes in.

Starshine40

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 06:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pamy, she would compete in an IC for tribe immunity.

Seamonkey

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And Immunity for the tribe would presumably be good, unless Lill wanted Andrew out NOW..

Pamy

Monday, November 03, 2003 - 07:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thx Star and Sea, forgot about tribe IC!!!

Needmylifeback

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 06:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hermione - they didn't fly Osten out...remember he quit...so his contract was null and void...I bet they handed him a paddle and gave him one of those boats with the corks in it and said...good luck! LOL!

Alaginger

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 08:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
NMLB ... In the interview with Shawn and Osten on the Morning Show, they both said they got to tour Panama. Shawn said it like it was a nice adventure and Osten said it like it was an inconvenience because he was nauseated going up and down the Panama.

March

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So Osten didn't even like the tour of Panama, BIG surprise. Is there anything that guy did not complain or whine about?

Seamonkey

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, WTF DOES Osten like, besides steroids?

Gen

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 06:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger, I found this picture of Lil from ep2 or 3. Some posters still a thinking Lil went to Drake. I agree with you, it certainly appears that she is right beside of Tijuana. Compare the shades of blue of the patch.

lillian_tribe1 tijuana

Alaginger

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I will be very shocked if Lil is not standing next to Tijuana on that mat on the beach on Thursday night. Also, I don't think Tijuana has her mouth opened in surprise because it is a water challenge, because they have done water challenges before. Something else is different about this challenge to get a reaction like that. I'm thinking they are told that it is for both Reward and Immunity, because that would be different....but that's only because I can't think of anything else (LOL).

Needmylifeback

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 07:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I though Lil was a couple of inches taller than Tijuana...I remember a picture of the Morgan tribe and Lil was a bit taller...this looks like shoulder to shoulder...although it could be the angle...Also if it is the "Council" patch (The top one on her shoulder) - I would think we'd see the red edge and that light blue doesn't appear at the edge but in the middle...Again I could be the angle..But I think it's something else...Although I have no idea what! (I went back through a bunch of pictures and couldn't find anything even similar....unless it is the edge of their buff...but then again...there should be some orange...)LOL! Now I am sooooo confused and there are still two more days to go!

I went and copied and enlarged the above picture and kept enlarging the corner...it doesn't look like the patch when it is about an inch in height, but I couldn't identify what it was...looks too wrinkled...

Gen

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 07:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Needmylifeback, Lil is just a little bit taller than Tijuana. In this picture she is standing with her legs slightly apart, so she is about the same height. Note where her shoulder is in comparison with Tijuana.

tn_morgan

Pamy

Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Has Christa been shown in any previews this week?

Azriel

Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 12:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Pamy, there is an underwater shot of Christa upside down moving along on a rope.

Alaginger

Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 05:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
NMLB --- well, one thing for sure. After tomorrow night we will know for sure if it was Lillian's patch or not (LOL). I've watched the video over at CBS this morning 3 times, and it appears to be two shoulders side by side in a little movement, but it is impossible to catch a stillshot of any more of that so-called patch other than what has already been captured. As far as height. Lillian could have her shoes off....of Tijuana could be standing a little straighter. Or, like you said, maybe it isn't the patch......but what else could it be?

Needmylifeback

Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 06:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've cropped the above pic to just the shoulder area...but, I am having trouble posting it....I currently have it in both jpeg and gif saved formats...but, I don't know what I am doing wrong...maybe the sizing...I am going on record to say I don't think it is Lill's patch...but, I don't know what the heck it is! LOL! I'll work on it more after I take DS to school!

Alaginger...in the true spirit of Veruca Salt...BUT I WANT TO KNOW NOW! LOL!