Archive through October 30, 2003
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The Twist - The Lie - The Regret:
Archive through October 30, 2003
Gen | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 04:25 pm     Biloxibelle - I think you've got it! ROFL! |
Surreal_Badger | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 05:28 pm     from Trish's interview in TV guide (available at www.survivorphoenix.com) "But I liked Jon a lot, even though he was very obnoxious. There was something about Jon; you couldn't trust him as far as you could throw him, but when he talked, YOU KIND OF BELIEVED HIM [i added the caps here for emphasis]. It is a very weird thing. It's a talent the guy has." i think jon's the liar. i read somewhere that JP's response to the big lie was "m-----f---r!" it seems to me that the liar would have to be male (not sure JP would refer to a woman that way). and IMHO, although i REALLY hate that particular expletive, jon might just qualify, with or without a lie. |
Wgm | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 07:14 pm     I think that the regret will be a part of the twist. If the Ghost tribe wins the challenge, then they have a chance to put someone from their tribe on a another tribe, then it would only make sense that they have to kick someone off of Drake or Morgan. Trish wanted Rupert off the night she was voted off. She and Jon voted against Rupert. So, I bet that Trish convinces the others to choose Rupert to go, and put Burton in his place. Rupert is the one who regrets what he did to tick Trish off, and there's your twist. I agree with Enigma2. I think that Jon's DUI is the lie. He lied to the producers during the casting part of the show when they asked him if he was ever arrested, but it would have been discovered during the background check, right? Wrong because Jon covered his tracks and that's how he got on the show. |
Kaili | Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 06:25 am     The think with the "m-----f---r!" comment is that it can be seen two ways. now, i do think it was a man who does the lie, but was Jeff saying that about the person, or saying it sort of as a replacement for saying damn or holy sh*t? I'm picturing it as being said sort of in surprise with a headshake- not like a negative namecalling thing. |
Enigma2 | Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 06:43 am     Lorry, maybe you are right re Jon. Don't know. I just got the Probst quote. It follows: "There's ... a very, very regrettable event that happens, and the person to whom it happens is going to regret it ... more than they have any idea right now," he says. "I couldn't believe it when it happened, and I can't wait for it to play out." (The quote was made after the show was taped, but it seems to be going to be played-out in the future. This could apply to Jon. But, then, Probst may be speculating about the final vote which will be in the future.) (So many 'tenses.') Webkitty: There is one of those 'wonderful' sites where someone has found it necessary to search out police records that any of the Survivors might have. (Four of them have police records.) CBS has also made some statements (hence, public record) re the 'jail birds.' (Two were alcohol related; two were drug related. CBS made a point of stating that all Survivors were given drug tests and were clean at time of show...) |
Webkitty | Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 07:26 am     Thanks Enigma. I know about the Smoking Gun, but must have missed that one. I still think the BIG REGRET is Osten quitting. I listened to Jeff's radio interview that is posted over at SSN (Survivornews.net) The inflection in his voice when he talks about Osten and the next three days which will play out over this episode, leaves me no doubt. Watch me be wrong, ha! I'll save my comments on how it could effect his life until after we see if it happens or not. Jeff also said the LIE does NOT effect the game. Its just a flat out lie that someone tells. I got the impression that the LIE wasn't that big of a deal, but I could be wrong. Brutal and brilliant are pretty strong words to use, so if turns out to be nuttin, Jeff has some splaning to do! |
Auntiemike | Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 08:33 am     Webkitty: I got the impression from previous posts of all Jeff's quotes that the lie in fact was brilliant and that he was amazed at first, to the point of his swearing quote, and then noted how the lie changed the game. I got the impression the lie had more of an impact...how, I don't know. It may affect the game, for the particular player who says the lie, perhaps. |
Ninja_157 | Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 09:59 am     I am thinking maybe the regret is going to be something a little more serious. JP has said this person will regret it for a long,long time. Possibly a physical fight? Or maybe a false accusation? Racial slur? I saw a post on Survivor Sucks that likened the regret to the Ted/Ghandia situation but most likely that is just more speculation. It's possible that we are just overthinking the whole scenario and the regret turns out to be something as simple as getting voted out or maybe going with the wrong alliance. LOL |
Watching2 | Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:55 am     I just got this on my Survior Update email and if you read the last sentence, it gives me the feeling it will be about someone quitting, probably Osten. "THURSDAY ON SURVIVOR: PEARL ISLANDS It's the first of a two-part episode full of surprises and revelations! The Survivors thought they were ready for anything. But when the twist to beat all twists takes them by surprise, they can do little but shudder as they learn the curse of SURVIVOR: PEARL ISLANDS. One Survivor makes a monumental decision." |
Ninja_157 | Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:40 am     Another thought...what if Burton makes it back into the game (which I think is very likely) and Rupert decides to jump to the Morgan camp? Trish mentioned in one interview that Rupert had said if Burton hadn't been voted out he would have stayed with the Morgans. This might be a cause of regret for Rupert and could also lead to the Drakes being so hungry (because of no fish) that they would have to kill that pelican. I also hope this is the last week that we have to see Osten. He certainly hasn't lived up to any of my expectations of his abilities. Didn't he watch this show before he applied? It makes no sense. He definitely could (and SHOULD) be the goner this week. |
Starshine40 | Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 11:19 pm     Copied from Survivornews.net Jeff Probst on Haber & Erin There is an incident ...an event that one Survivor is going to regret for a long time and that is very close to happening. MoreMusic104 Tuesday, October 28, 2003 Click for external link Highlights... Jeff: He broke up with his girlfriend. He's a single man again but not without a good time. Morgan comeback: Drake throwing the challenge has cost them dearly. Jon: Jon is the guy to watch. He's snaky Osten: Osten has an interesting next 3 days. The next episode is pretty interesting for Osten. But the next episode is HUGE. So much happens. You either going to love it or say OMG. Lie: the lie hasn't happened. You would not have any idea about the lie but he wouldn't answer whether we already had hints or evidence of it happening yet. It will not change the complexion of the game... it's just the greatest lie ever told on Survivor. Regret: And there is an incident ...an event that one Survivor is going to regret for a long time and that is very close to happening. Twist: The biggest twist ever is happening this week. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2000-2003 SurvivorNews.net Not affiliated with CBS, SEG, or Mark Burnett. Although they probably read it everyday with their morning coffee. |
Sia | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 12:16 am     Wow!! Now I'm dying of curiosity. Please, someone, translate this article for me and tell me what's going to happen. I can't wait until tomorrow night's episode!! |
Lorry | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 05:59 am     Sia: Rofl... you sound like me... I want to know everything. hehe The translation depends on who is translating. lol I have made my head hurt trying to figure out all the spoiler information, and trying to piece together a pausible scenario, but so far, I'm in the dark like everyone else. Guess tonite we get more pieces to this puzzle. Yeah!!!! Can't wait for the show tonite. |
Meridian | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 06:04 am     What I am sincerely afraid of is the hype promoting the lie, the twist, and the regret. Like so many times before, teasers catch our interest and arouse our curiosity but when we watch the show, the disappointment is crushing. Like last season's BB, each episode was purported to be the "most shocking" or the "most dramatic" yet the ho-hum reality left us with a collective cry of "That's it?!?" This season's Survivor has proved to be the best since its premiere. I can only hope that the building anticipation will have a terrific pay-off. |
Webkitty | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 07:09 am     Just some speculation............ The only thing I can tell you is that my brother and his wife stopped over when I was in the middle of trying to analyze a taped commercial. Their "jaws dropped" (literally, it was funny) when they saw all the booted players were coming back for a chance to get back into the game. They said, "oh, that is not right!" So, to the average viewer, that does not go to the internet, I think the "lie" will be overshawdowed by the "twist" The "lie" may or may not be picked up on by the GVA (general viewing audience) as that big of a deal. I listended to that radio interview, and I'm telling ya, Jeff sounded like: ...why did I ever hype this lie thing so much... I don't think its going to be that big a deal. (except maybe to us,lol) He did say it won't change the game. So, whoever tells it must tell it just for entertainment purposes, and its not part of a plan to outst someone to get ahead. My bet is on Jon. He probably gets drunk and tells a whopper about himself, and then in a confessional tells us it was an outright lie. Still thinking of those words brutal and brilliant, though.....maybe he does tell a lie that saves him for just this week, but he ends up going at the merge anyway. If it doesn't effect the game, it probably won't be a lie that is told about someone else. And, the lie won't get the lier far in the game, because that WOULD be effecting the "complextion" of the game. The regret, I still thinks its Osten quitting. When Jeff was talking about Osten, his voice sounded "tired" and full of portent, like he was remembering the incident. CBS has been overhyping their press releases all season, but, a monumental decision by ONE player reeks of somthing like this. I can't see the monumental decision as being Andrew having to decide between Ryno or Osten. Or who the GT will vote back in. Those would just be some of the many decisions that they all have to make throughout the game. All decisions are important in this game, and can lead down paths not seen at the time. If CBS is not overhyping (and they could be, again) then its Osten quitting,jmo. Osten is being hidden from us in the commercials. Except for a few shots of him scowling. I think when all 3 tribes show up at TC at the end of part1, Osten will be missing. Jeff will say, as you can see, Osten is no longer with us. This would be a shocking and dramatic end to part 1. And, maybe, because Osten quits, Jeff says the GT gets to vote a THIRD person back in. I think if the GT has to vote on who they want to put back into the game, they will vote for Burton first. He can win II challenges no problem. They will want a GT member to do well. Between Lil/Trish I have said Trish but it could be Lil, and then another twist, and Trish gets back in too. This fits in with the Wezzie spoiler that Trish was the older woman. Maybe they both get back in. I was reading over at SBB this morning that Trish was on the radio show this morning saying (in response to tonight) ...its not what you think!.... I don't know how she could "know" what we think, when we're not sure ourselves! lol. I guess we'll all find out in....approx 10 hours. |
Shewho | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 08:25 am     Thanks to all you interesting posters. I am not really that good at possability thinking which makes me enjoy all the theories so very much. I just hope that we aren't all let down mightily tonight because Jeff has over hyped things. Just a few hours and we will know. |
Marameko | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 09:12 am     Let's sing: OA oaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaooaoaoo |
Fruitbat | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 10:18 am     Webkitty I agree about the lie. It will be no big deal to us. We always come up with things far grander than the truth. If the regret is Osten leaving that is lame too. How will we see that he is regretting this choice? Another thrown challenge or alliance with the wrong person is closer to what it will probably be. |
Amchess | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 11:16 am     Mara, I will join you in song. OA oaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaooaoaoo |
Readonly | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 12:09 pm     Let's make it a trio: OA oaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaooaoaoo |
Auntiemike | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 12:46 pm     Do I hear any harmony? Thanks for the singing! |
Enigma2 | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 12:59 pm     AO AoAoAoAoAoAoAoAoAoAoAoAoAo |
Sbw | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 01:03 pm     You are sure gonna get hoarse by the time the show starts, but hang in there. At least it makes the time pass faster. |
Gen | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 06:26 pm     The LIE? Trish said in one of her exit interviews: A few telling moments made Dunn feel threatened by the self-proclaimed pirate. "Rupert once said to me, 'When I came back from Morgan, if Burton wasn't gone, I would have opted to stay with them,'" she reveals. "Which sent up a big red flag. If you are supposed to 'Mr. Drake,' and we didn't pick the right person, you would have just jumped ship? http://www.tvguide.com/news/insider/031028b.asp Jon repeated this to Rupert tonight. Could this be the lie? If it is the lie, who started it? Trish, Jon, or is Rupert lying when he said "I never said that"? |
Pagal | Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 08:15 pm     I don't remember that Rupert had a choice to stay with Morgan. I thought his only choice was to enjoy the reward they won and then go back to Drake. Anyone else remember anything along those lines? |
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