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Tweety

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Major spoiler confirmed. . .

SuvivorFever has vidcaps of the promo - "ghost tribe" with purple flag and all those who previously walked the plank. Here is the link:

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_wp_7.html

Hermione69

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Supposedly the video preview at CBS.com shows them. I cannot view it from this computer. Someone else may want to go check that out?

Starlymae

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
new newI took the first picture and blew it up, does it look like Ti's buff on her arm is purple to anyone other than me? Darrah's is obviously orange, but Ti's on the other hand, hummm. Could this be what they (cbs) mean when they say "A castaway makes a monumental decision". Just a thought I would throw out there. I posted this somewhere else, but no one seems to be going to that one so I thought I would try you guys. The new weeks preview tells us the booties are coming back and they do compete in this challenge with the other two tribes. The first shot you see is Lil, Shaw (holding the purple flag), and Michelle coming out of the woods. You can see during the preview that they all are there (booties) the only one that is not shown is Ryan S. Not sure if he just didn't make the video cap, or if for some reason he doesn't come back. OK, the tribe members are tied up in the cage, in different sections, Andrew for Morgan, Shawn for Drake, and Burton for booties are the only ones not tied up. They are running to there cage, to get there teammates undone.

Mrst

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Starlymae I thought like you did that Ryan S was not there but I think he is. If you look at the pics from survivor fever he is there in one of the pics coming in behind nicole.

Hippyt

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I watched the CBS clip. You can see Nicole,Burton,Lillian,and Trish with others. Looks like everyone gets a chance to get back in the game. What I'm wondering is how will they pare the teams back down to fit the schedule? A live or go home contest? a super speeded up TC? Accckkkk,it's too much,too much!!!!!!!!

Surreal_Badger

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 11:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Phew! This thread is getting long (sorry - i didn't scroll back and see if the info below was ever posted), and the discussion is on quite a number of topics (and i apologize for interrupting a discussing of episode 7 pics)!

But I thought I'd post this interesting tidbit I gleaned from survivorblows (thanks to frankz). A possible spoiler from Yahoo's description of the show. This was initially posted in September, but it still seems interestingly relevant:

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from http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/4089.shtml


SHOW DESCRIPTION:
"Sixteen Americans compete for $1 million while testing their survival and strategy skills in a remote location. 'Pearl Islands' promises more challenges in the water, an ongoing theme involving piracy and the biggest and most impressive tribal council area yet."

BRIEF HISTORY:
"This is the seventh edition of the network's reality standard-bearer, set off the coast of Panama."

STARS:
Rupert Boneham as Contestant
Tijuana Bradley as Contestant
Shawn Cohen as Contestant
Jon Dalton as Contestant
Sandra Diaz-Twine as Contestant
Christa Hastie as Contestant
Darrah Johnson as Contestant
Lillian Morris as Contestant
Ryan Opray as Contestant
Jeff Probst as Host

[frank z then writes,]

Note: Missing are
Nicole Delma
Ryan Shoulders
Burton Roberts
Michelle Tesauro
Tricia Dunn
Andrew Savage
Osten Taylor

http://tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvi&cf=0&id= 1808509994&epspid=168499356&lineup=us_Central&chspid= 166034671&channels=us_CBSC&progutn=1064534400&chname=CBSC

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Notice that 5 of folks missing from Yahoo's list are our 5 out of 6 of boots thus far, minus of course Lil, the returning "older woman"?



(edited for formatting)

Gen

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Starlymae, I think the buffs of Morgan are just dirty. Look at the one around Andrew's neck. It also has a purplish cast.

Alaginger

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 02:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Starlymae, if that list is leading to something, it might mean that Lillian gets back into the game, and Morgan has to vote out 2 players instead of one, and Osten and Andrew leave. If so........that was a good find.

Otherwise, I can't imagine why only those 9 people were listed as the stars......

Surreal_Badger

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 03:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
for what it's worth, and based on the above yahoo spoiler alone (which is, i know, a very dangerous speculation), I'd say that in episode 7, the ghost tribe win their escape-from-the-cage challenge and are rewarded with an individual competition that selects who can reenter the game (which lil wins).

Now if there's one morgan out there who would be targeted by a readmitted lil, it'd have to be andrew.

perhaps morgan comes in last in the cage challenge and has to boot 2 players?

or perhaps osten just up-n-quits


edited to include this thought: or perhaps lil gets to choose who she replaces and she naturally picks andrew. and without andrew's insistence on keeping osten for his "strength," it's back to boston for the city-boy

Hippyt

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's a very interesting thought. What if she didn't want to go back to her old tribe though?

Surreal_Badger

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe she's not given a choice. maybe whoever wins the individual comp gets to return to their original tribe. (we could assume, for example, that burton, michelle, and trish would all exchange places with rupert).

perhaps MB thought that this person would quickly be voted out again (hence avoiding the problem of someone who's had their fire snuffed actually winning the game). but according to spoilers, the older woman who comes back immediately wins individual immunity. and perhaps because she's an "older woman," the other folks just don't see her as a threat and vote out others. (i know getting jon out would be a priority for me)

and perhaps lil doesn't choose to replace andrew. perhaps she chooses to replace osten. i don't think she thought much of his attitude.

Gen

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Lil doesn't replace anyone or return to an existing tribe. Maybe the merge occurs at this point and all are now members of Balboa. This would fit with her winning individual immunity. Just a thought.

Surreal_Badger

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
true enough.

but i think that would put the show "behind schedule." according to the cbs website (i know, i know, a dangerous source to rely upon), there are 13 episodes.

ep. 13 final 3/final 2
12 4 left
11 5 left
10 6 left
9 7 left
8 8 left
7 9 left

so if during the course of episode 7, we go back up to 11 tribe members, then more than one person has to leave at the end of the show. (or some such variation on that theme)

Gen

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Surreal, I read somewhere that Drake and Morgan each plank a member during this time. Another spoiler suggested that Morgan had to plank two members. Somehow, they must get rid of the extra people.

Pannie

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, thanks you guys for all the resources and your speculation. I, for one, am looking forward to this ghostly return of the dead on all hallow's eve

< buh bye Andrew & Osten; hello Lil>

eta: why, oh why, must they where the same dern clothes? I hope they secretly got to wear their other clothes while ferreted away at the ghost hostelry.

Bidasea

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 08:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Surreal...I think you are right about who Lil would choose to replace(if she does get the choice) She was very upset that Osten was a Quitter..Instead of replacing Andrew, she would probably think that Osten isn't deserving of a final spot.

Auntiemike

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 11:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, but don't forget, Lil would have to look at the final picture and would see Andrew as a bigger threat than Osten. I think she knows how he has been functioning and sees him as his own worst enemy. He will get booted or will leave. Andrew is showing some strength now so would be more logical for her to have him removed. My two cents worth.

I love all these possibilities and am eagerly awaiting the next episode. Almost more than my little heart can take!

Surreal_Badger

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah, i think lil would choose andrew too. clearly andrew was nasty to her and to ryan s. and since he's the "leader," if she left his power intact, he'd just turn around and direct the others to re-boot her.

IMHO

Starlymae

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, I have a question. Are the three tribes only competing during the RC, or in the RC and IC? If the three tribes compete in the IC, then that would send the other two tribes to tribal council. Two people would be voted off, and then when the one booted player comes back everything should be on schedule.

Alaginger

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I personally think they are competing in a Reward Challenge, because there is no Immunity Challenge in those pictures anywhere.........hmmmm???

Hippyt

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 05:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So,the reward would be getting to come back into the game?

Alaginger

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 05:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's a possibility........or there is a Panamanian wedding to host and attend??? Who in the heck knows???

Hippyt

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hahahahahaha!

Starlymae

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 06:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree, the ghost tribe competes. Must sit one out to be fair to the other two. Ghost tribe wins. One Survivor makes a monumental decision: Ghost decides which tribe to return to. If Lil, she goes to Drake. Trish?...I think would go to Morgan.

Starlymae

Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
On other spoiler sites others are thinking that maybe Osten quits. If he quits, they could bring back two players, not just one. If the merge does not occur during the 2nd part of this then how would they decide who gets the returning player? Also, here are some other things people are thinking. I thought I would just throw them out there and lets see where it goes. The twists seem designed to prevent (a) rock solid alliances, (b) pagonging, (c) predictability. No matter what the details are, it introduces unpredictability and shakes up the strategies/alliances/teams. The ways I can see that would shake things up. 1 ghost wreaking the havoc that MB wants is that there would also be a reshuffling--one of those stand on a stone and find a new buff under it reshuffles for at least a week before the merge. But then that's not very piratical. 1 ghost could do it if the ghost got to choose his/her new team from four of the other remaining 8 players. That would be a monumental choice. It could last three days until merge. This is another possibility
Ok, suppose the ghost tribe wins the IC and Drake and Morgan both have to boot somebody. A ghost has to come back to get up to 9 players, which is where they should be at this point. I suspect that instead of giving the ghosts an individual challenge to determine which one comes back, they will merge and then have to vote one of the ghosts back into the game. I think that this would be consistent with the players' fates being ultimately decided by votes, not by challenges.