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Sunshyne4u

Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 11:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This season I have been amazed at the editing of Survivor. We are at the "merge" and some of the contestants have barely been interviewed infront of the camera. WHY? some may ask....well, because this show has changed from Survivor to the Rupert Show. Most episodes centre almost exclusively around him, and now the naming of the new tribe!! Balboa, after his dead snake!! Is anyone else besides me horrified at the name choice??
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Maybe I should have put this under the 'Who DOESNT Love Rupert' thread? Naw, the ridiculousness of the new tribe name deserves a separate thread. What think you all of this topic?

Seamonkey

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 12:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is more likely that they named the tribe (and Rupert names the snake) after the explorer Vasco Nunez de Balboa.

Balboa

Balboa, Vasco Nunez de, Explorers, Travelers, And Conquerors

Related Category: Explorers, Travelers, And Conquerors


Balboa, Vasco Nunez de[balbO´u, Span. va´skO nOO´nyAth dA balbO´a] Pronunciation Key, c.1475–1519, Spanish conquistador, discoverer of the Pacific Ocean. After sailing with Bastidas in 1501, Balboa probably went to Hispaniola. In 1510, fleeing from creditors, he hid on the vessel that took Enciso to Panama. After reaching Darien, Balboa took command, deposed the incompetent Enciso, and sent him to Spain as a prisoner. Balboa showed only rarely the rapacity and cruelty characteristic of the conquistador. He won the friendship of the indigenous people, who accompanied him on his epic march across the isthmus. Toward the end of Sept., 1513, he discovered the Pacific and claimed it and all shores washed by it for the Spanish crown. His discovery came too late to offset Enciso's complaints at the court of Spain. Balboa was replaced by Pedro Arias de Avila, and while preparing an expedition to Peru, he was summarily seized, accused of treason, and beheaded.

See C. L. G. Anderson, Life and Letters of Vasco Nunez de Balboa (1941, repr. 1971).

I've never looked into the thread you referenced, but golly, I bet it would fit there.


Drake and Morgan were also explorers.. we could sense a theme here.

Sunshyne4u

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 12:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree YES, and there were many OTHER explorers to choose from. Thank you so much for printing a full history of BALBOA!!
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Surely you must think it a COINCIDENCE?? that the snake just happened to be named the same??? Maybe with all the producer slanted coaxing of the contestants someone on the staff let the 'name' slip to Rupert? Rupert is very smart. It could be considered a brilliant move to demoralize the other contestants.

Kappy

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 12:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Seamonkey as to why the tribe was named Balboa. In fact, I thought that was why Rupert had named his snake Balboa to begin with. It's a very fitting name with the theme and location of this season's survivor.

As for some others not getting much camera time, I thought it might be because some so rarely get up and do anything ~ thinking of the Morgan tribe here, lol. Also, while some people are willing to complain on camera when they are out of ear-shot of the others, they don't seem as willing to take a stand when they are within the group. As for Rupert and Burton, because the two appear friendly later at the TC, I assumed the editing of showing their earlier conversation was done to explain how that friendliness came to be ~ or at least that's how I saw it.

Whoami

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 12:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gee, let me guess here....Sunshyne, you don't like Rupert much, do you?

Seamonkey

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 12:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunshyne, surely I do think it is a coincidence and if for some reason, the tribe members decided to name the tribe Balboa because of Rupert's snake, well, why not? As Jeffy said.. choose your name, make your flag.. and they did.

They did that long before there was any pro-Rupert editing.

You're welcome. That is just a brief history, but it was of interest to me.

Tobor7

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 01:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Someone said: "Maybe I should have put this under the 'Who DOESNT Love Rupert' thread?"

I agree.

Ohbrother

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 01:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tribe,"Rupert"? Sounds good to me as I am a big Rupert fan. Go RUPERT!!!

Jami

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 03:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The coins there are called Balboas also. Of couse that is after the explorer too.

Yay Rupert!

Fanny

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 04:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nah, Sunshyne, I don't find myself horrified at much that happens on a reality TV show.

Go Team Rupert!

Grannyg

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 04:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
FANNY!!!!!!!

Csnog

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 04:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
New people are watching this Survivor because of Rupert and MB knows it. Why would he not take advantage of it?

Every season people like and dislike certain players and without controversy in the program, who would watch the under the radar players.

Squaredsc

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fanny!!!!

Prisonerno6

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP

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Gee, let me guess here....Sunshyne, you don't like Rupert much, do you?




Ya think? :)

Prisonerno6

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 05:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP

Quote:

Drake and Morgan were also explorers.. we could sense a theme here.




Now Sea, you're being too logical. It's much more fun to fabricate conspiracy theories. I mean, really. What are the chances the tribes actually like Rupert and decided to honor him and his little snake (no, not *that* little snake...gutterminds...) by naming the new tribe Balboa? After all, no one in their right mind could possibly like Rupert.

Halfunit

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 06:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
<...crawls out of gutter...>

Kep421

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 06:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
*pulls Halfunit back down...doesn't want to be gutterbound AND lonely...*

Ladytex

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
FANNY!!!

Bcandscott

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a crazy thought here....MAYBE Rupert named the snake Balboa because Balboa was a famous explorer...and maybe because the snake was a small BOA....get it...Bal BOA...ya think?

Tribe Rupert does have a nice ring to it though.

Jami

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But the players did pick the name right? So it wasn't a matter of editing or anything like that.

Kep421

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Your right Jami...the players did pick the name.

I think that possibly Sandra or Christa (or even Rupert for that matter) may have mentioned Rupert's snake dying and how Rupert was hurt over it. One of the Morgan members might have even asked about the snake as they did see it once. I can see it steming from natural conversations as the group started talking. Since Rupert is liked by members of both tribes, its not much of a stretch that everyone would agree to name the tribe Balboa after his snake.

I do not think Rupert "brow beat" anyone into agreeing, nor do I think it was agreed upon because the other people are afraid of him or kissing his butt. People like to do nice things, and it was a nice thing to do. Period.

Just my take on it...

Lorry

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Sunshyne should be given some credit for her ability to make us think. Granted, we may not agree with her, but her opinions are valid and produce much opportunity to talk and discuss.

Having said that.... I don't agree with her take on the naming of the new tribe.

Why? For all the good reasons given by Seamonkey and the others here in this thread.

I'm a Raging Rupert fan... hehe Doncha just love the big lug????

Kep421

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
*huggles Lorry....

Welcome back...glad all went ok...

Rupertbear

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No, no, no people...you have it all wrong!

Rupert is an evil Svengali & one look into those hypnotic brown eyes of his & you are a gonner!

How else do you explain the mass appeal of this guy with the viewing audience???

And remember Lil's convo with Savage? Rupert passed by...gave her the 'look' & she was his!

Needmylifeback

Friday, November 07, 2003 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
First...I thought Rupert standing behind Andrew while he was talking with Lill and shaking his head was ROTFLOL funny!....


Second...That was a long boat ride back to camp after the IC...They probably came up with the name then...It might have gone like this..."Rupert says we should name the new tribe Balboa....and anyone who dissagrees...can walk home now!" .....:D I so love Rupert on this show...I hope he gets to stay around several more weeks!