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Wilsonatmd

Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
from the usual location....

"What the.....?"

If the spoilers are right, not only is this the merge episode, this is the episode where the booted players comptete for a second chance in the game...

Surreal_Badger

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 04:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
actually, it may not be the merge. so both viewers and survivors are left saying "what the. . .?"

but it's definitely "THE TWIST"

Hermione69

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonight in the teaser for next week, JP says something like, "Morgan, Drake, your past has come back to haunt you." They are definitely bringing the ghost tribe in, IMHO!

If anyone taped this, could they type all the info from the teaser? I missed some of it. I did catch enough to feel like no way in heck is Jon going next, sorry to disappoint, because they are already trying to mislead us into THINKING it is him, with two separate blurbs... one from Andrew saying something about how irritating Jon is and one from Rupert who is P.O.ED that he got two votes and is trying to find who the 2nd one was. Jon is safe. Classic misdirection.

Wasn't there something else said in the teaser about Osten being a wuss?

Not1worry

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 06:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Andrew said that he could tell Osten gave up, or words to that effect. He could see it in his eyes, and there was a shot of Osten looking defeated.

Alaginger

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 06:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Your Past Has Come Back To Haunt You.....a ghost tribe of 4 members ... Trish, Michelle, Burton and Lillian. These are the only 4 listed at TDT as being in "The Tribe of the Dead".

Webkitty

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, Andrew said, Osten has checked out, again. This is the wrong thread for me to get going on Osten, but I would be thrilled to see his defeatist butt gone next week.
My opinion of Andrew goes up with each episode. I hope he makes it far.
I think if it weren't for the twist, Jon would be toast next episode. He still could be, but Jeff said we would sort of feel sorry for him by the time he got booted, and after tonight, he has a LONG way to go for that. I really didn't think it would be him who went to Morgan and stirred things up, but I was wrong. It really gave Andrew, at least, the motivation to dig deep to win that IC, though.

It does look like the ghost tribe makes its appearance next week. I have no idea right now how this could work, but my first instinct is that this tribe doesn't stay around more than one episode. I'm thinking there is a competition, probably questions on how well the the ghost tribe members "know" the tribemates they left behind, and the winner gets back in. This still mucks up the logistics, but its the best I can think of right now. I'm still on an "episode high" lol.

Webkitty

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 06:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger, at SurvivorPhoenix, they are saying EVERYONE comes back, even Nichole. I don't like this idea of bringing back someone who has had their torch snuffed, but if EPMB must, I think its only fair that they ALL get a chance. Why should the first two out be excluded? That just doesn't seem right to me. (but I don't own SEG so....)

Alaginger

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Webkitty......I think all 6 should be a tribe and come back......I'm only reporting what it says over at TDT...and they have been wrong before....

Wasn't there a spoiler somewhere about the competition where the person(s) that come back win something to do in the water, and then the older woman goes on to win the next challenge also? We have to go look that up somewhere.

Hermie, if you will go over to SurvivorPhoenix and look in the resources they have all the pictures and the words that went with it up from tonight's teaser at the end of the show. Yep....Rupert is really angry with Jon!

Alaginger

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay Webkitty......I found it, cut and pasted, and here it is.......

SURVIVOR PHOENIX
October 22, 2003

Survivor Phoenix has learned that all of the booted players, including Nicole and Ryan S., will return as part of the Ghost Tribe.

Last week, we reported that the booted players form a third tribe to compete against the Drake and Morgan tribes (see Ghost Tribe Competes), probably under a wine-colored flag. Earlier reports have placed the number of returning players anywhere from 1 to 3, but well-placed sources now tell us that all of the players voted out of their respective tribes will form the as-yet-unnamed 3rd tribe.

Webkitty

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ginger, your right, I seem to remember reading about a "water competition" somewhere. Or, maybe the next competition AFTER the re-entering competition was the water competition. Geeze, I need a rest! This next week is going to be t-o-u-g-h to spoil!

CBS usually runs some good commercials over the weekend during the games. I'll try to get a good one, I hope this twist is hyped, otherwise next week will be pure guessing.

Webkitty

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Ginger! I knew I count to you to find that.
This was the first thing we needed to start the spoiling for the week. (I'm already tired, lol)

Kaili

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 07:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay- how about this...there was a rumor that the other tribe votes for the tribe that loses immunity. Any chance that the ghost tribe is the one that votes out the next person? What do you guys think?

Webkitty

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 08:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kaili, could be. In the previews of next week, Jeff is saying your past is back to haunt you.
If this is the case, who they go for first?
I think Burton, Michelle and Trish would go for Rupert. Nichole, Ryan and Lil is harder to guess. Nicole had a problem with Ti and that is why she got the boot. Lil said she got the boot because she wasn't young and cute like Darrah. Ryan thought Andrew pre-judged him.

I bet the Drake bootees would be able to convince the Morgan bootees to put aside all that to take Rupert out. If he won II or was somehow immune, I'm guessing Osten might be a target.

Surreal_Badger

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 09:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
it appeared in the previews as though drake and morgan were still separate, yes? (no merge yet) so maybe there's a three-way competition -- 5 on drake, 5 on morgan, and 5 on the ghost tribe (sad to say, but poor ryan s gets shuttled to the side yet again). and based on speculation and spoilers i'm hearing, it appears the ghost tribe wins the competition (which I have a HARD time imagining -- particularly since drake has rupert AND shawn).

but i agree. this week should be interesting -- and challenging -- to spoil

Wilsonatmd

Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 09:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From the CBS website....

-It's the first of a two-part episode full of surprises and revelations!

-The Survivors thought they were ready for anything. But, when the twist to beat all twists takes them by surprise, they can do little but shudder as they learn the curse of SURVIVOR: PEARL ISLANDS.

-A castaway makes a monumental decision.

Indigospy

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What is "TDT"?

Wilsonatmd

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 02:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
TDT- True Dork Times, one of the more well respected Spoiler places. You also might see ABT-Acme Brain Trust, another highly regarded spoiler group.

Csnog

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 05:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There are now 6 on the Ghost tribe while Morgan and Drake have 5 each.

AND

There is one more boot before jury duty.

Surreal_Badger

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not sure we can be sure that there's one more boot before the jury. It seems as though the possibility of the ghost tribe coming back might mess up our (and the tribes') speculations about what/when/who.

Webkitty

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
First scenario. Subject to change many times this week, lol.

Maybe, this time, Osten DOES leave the game. If he outright quit, this would be an event that never happened before on Survivor. When Jeff gave that interview, he said there were two events that happened so far that had never happened before. I took this as the stranding, and the guys getting neekid in the first IC. I think Jeff actually said this was a first on Survivor when they did it, I'de have to check my tape. BUT, someone quitting would be a HUGE event. MB did not replace Mike Stupkin when he burned his hands, but maybe this time MB decides to do it. Maybe, he had the ghost tribe idea all worked out but hadn't made a final decision to use it, and when Osten quit (IF he did) gave the greenlight for it.

I still think the ghost tribe will only be around for one episode, especially since CBS is saying this is a 2 parter (whatever THAT means)
I'm thinking there is a competiton of the third tribe for ONE person to get back into the game. It can't be all physical. Maybe a combination.
Then, whoever wins, gets to join the new merged tribe, Balboa. The game plays out as usual. Thus, the reports that the merge was a "normal" one and the final TC was the same.

Pick away..... that's what this thread is for

Csnog

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 07:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If the rumor is true about a planked player returning the jury may consist of 9 instead of 7.

If they don't keep to the orginal 7 jury then we will see 2 planked players in episode 7.

Webkitty

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone else think its strange that ALL the booted players so far seem bitter except for Trish? Either MB instructed them to play it this way post boot, or Trish is the only one who gets back in. My logic for now....

Hermione69

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
From Survivor News Net

Here is where the info about it being an underwater challenge comes from. And this could be how Lillian or Trish wins. In their bios, they both indicate being good swimmers and/or comfortable in water.


"THE TWIST - RESURRECTION?

Mark Burnett talked about this major twist (you know...the one that will make your jaws drop) in the Variety article

*Gasp* Our team has pieced together reports and concluded that the prejury boots compete with one another to win the privilege of returning from the dead and reentering the game. Hold on to your pirate britches, mates - we have a pretty good idea who wins this new twisty contest.

No, it’s not Big Brother 3's Amy. An older woman wins and returns to the game. This is the reason for the spare rations and harsh conditions at the Ponderosa. Once this contest is decided, the double losers finally get a vacation - and presumably better rations - at the Gamboa resort.

Sources tell us this superwoman goes on to win another challenge right after the first one. One of the challenges involves an underwater endurance contest where players have to pick up items. The SurvivorNews spy kids took a vote, and have decided that this is clearly not the surprise of all surprises, since underwater rock carrying is old hat."

Hermione69

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, that is a good point about the bitterness factor!

Surreal_Badger

Friday, October 24, 2003 - 08:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
interesting webkitty.

but was lil bitter? she seemed rather coy.

(still not sure which "older woman" is in final 2.)