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Kaili

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
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Born in Waterville, Maine, Lillian "Lill" Morris (or Big Lill to some) currently lives in Loveland, Ohio, which is north of Cincinnati. She has been married for 30 years to Lonnie and has two grown children, Clayton and Megan. She was most recently employed in customer service for an eyeglass company. She holds an Associates Degree in accounting from the University of Cincinnati. Her favorite hobbies include camping, backpacking through the Philmont Scout Reservation in Ohio and canoeing in Ely/Upper Michigan. She describes herself as adventurous, outspoken and daring. She's most proud of being a Boy Scoutmaster for 11 years. She started with seven scouts and, to date, Troop 617 has approximately 78 active young men under her supervision. She is also proud of representing her eyewear company in Thailand with the Gift of Sight Program when she helped distribute 23,000 pairs of glasses to people who were in need. Her favorite sport is baseball. She feels she's ready for this adventure because of her outdoor skills, leadership, patience, ability to be a team player, tolerance, acceptance, positive attitude and resourcefulness. Her primary motive is to experience something different in her life and live the ultimate high adventure experience. Her birth date is April 3, 1952.

Colors: Red, green, earth tones
Scents: Very Sexy by Victoria's Secret
Flowers: Daisy, lily, rose, iris
Board Games: Checkers
Video Games: Freecell
Sports to Play: Baseball, football
Sports Teams: Cincinnati Reds
Outdoor Activities: Hiking, swimming, camping, boating, backpacking, kayaking, pioneering
TV Shows: SURVIVOR, Will & Grace, Sex & the City
Movies: President's Girlfriend, Indiana Jones movies
Actors: Nicolas Cage, Will Smith, Harrison Ford
Actresses: Halle Berry, Julia Roberts
Music: Hard Rock, AC/DC, Rap, Nelly, Country, Garth Brooks, Pop
Magazines: Shape, Scouting
Books/Authors: John Grisham, Rosemary Rodgers
Cereals: Cheerios, Rice Krispies, corn flakes
Fruits: Apple, banana, pear, strawberries
Snack Foods: Ice cream, potato chips, peanuts, cashews
Cookies: Chocolate chip, peanut butter
Candy Bars: Hershey's anything
Alcoholic Drinks: Margarita, piña colada, Long Island ice tea
Non-Alcoholic: Diet Coke, sweetener tea, orange juice, tomato juice, apple juice

Kaili

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I suppose the scouting stuff could be useful...I just can't get over that outfit though, can't look past it. Uh uh. I bet I might end up liking her.

Awareinva

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
All the scout masters I know (that are women) tend to be pretty *ahem* bossy! Hope she doesn't fall into that trap.... but I just see it coming! She is the same age as most of the younger people's moms..... strong potential for early boot if she falls into the bossy/leader pattern!

And I agree Kaili.... did she have to have her bio photo in the scout uniform!!!???!!! LOL

Kaili

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Aware- check out the "New Contestants Revealed" thread- I can't remember who posted it, but s/he posted a link to where it says they were told to dress in the clothes they would want to wear for a press conference (how they want to be viewed by the world or whatever). They got all dressed to be on a press conference, and instead they were taken to the Pearl Islands wearing whatever clothes they had put on for the "press conference". LOL.

Awareinva

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I guess that would be more practical than what some of the others picked for a "press conference". OMG... that's hilarious! The hat would be a major plus! LOL

Poor people who wore high heels and a slinky dress! :) That gave the guys a huge advantage, didn't it???

Kaili

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did you look at the group photos! haha- I think it was a pretty good trick! I didn't even think about heels! Although even dress shoes for men would probably not be the proper footwear for Survivor.

Squaredsc

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i like her bio but the uniform scares me.

Reader234

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can post here, I too work in a uniform, and I wonder if she had to get permission from the Boy Scouts to wear the uniform at a press conference? I do know the BSA have received some bad press... dont know if this will help. I've read the SS message bb, and a spoiler thinks she "might" go far!! lol, I would hope she has survivor skills. It says she went to Philmont, my family of scouts just got back, its really hard for females to make these treks, they carry app 50#'s on thier backs, and walk app 65-85 miles (depending on which trek they take) thru mountainous area. I too have gone thru a lot of training, but nothing I've been thru would give me an advantage, there are courses that teach survivor skills, I've just never taken them!! We take a lot of leadership classes, but we know that this game depends on alliances and 'older' people tend to get booted. I think she may be able to keep up with some of the physical challenges, but it still remains to be seen!!

All in all, I will have to root for a fellow Scouter!! So the uniform shouldnt scare you, its a symbol of brotherhood, letting fellow scouters know a family member is around!! I wonder if she is in the Order of the Arrow? (a 'secret' service brotherhood ) Also, the history of scouting includes the McClaren's of Scotland, they donated land, and said any Scout may wear thier Tartan colors - just TMI I'm sure!!

Reader234

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Her favorite hobbies include camping, backpacking through the Philmont Scout Reservation in Ohio and canoeing in Ely/Upper Michigan.

I showed my dh ( a scoutmaster) her profile, he so LOL!!

1. Philmont is in Cimirron New Mexico (or Ranton, the train is one area, and I've not been)

2. Ely is in MN

Now, isnt survivor all about GEOGRAPHY!!!

Pannie

Friday, August 29, 2003 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I like the Scouts, but she looks destined to the traditional first boot: the bossy/leader pattern as Awareinva discusses above. We shall see <good luck Lill!>

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I respect anyone who gives that much effort to scouting. It seems the older people get booted fast, with the exception of last year. I find what Reader posted above to be very interesting though. Not sure if Lill screwed up, or if CBS did.

I'd like to see her do well, and hopes she doesn't start off with the mom/leader push. But the hat--the hat has to go!

Bbfanatic

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
she sounds like she will at least make it half way.

Reader234

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK, I just saw another pic of her posted on ss, and it does show her wearing a leather 'necklace' which in Boy Scout terms, she has earned her woodbadge beads, I would like to know if she has 2 or 3 beads, if she has 3 beads, then she was course director to 8-9 patrols of adults teaching outdoor skills, and leadership qualities (I've just taken the course, and have yet to 'earn ' the beads... you have to come up with 5-10 goals,or projects, its a lot of work, many compare it to the Eagle project a youth scout accomplishes. Not many adults complete the training, and even fewer are chosen to be on staff, and then from that staff you do extra work and training, and go on to be an assitant leader, then a leader, than in charge (all have specific names mind you, not many are chosen for this high of leadership!)

Also she is wearing a patch over the pocket of her right pocket, which tells me she is in the Order of the Arrow, another significant leadership role!! Some groups -depending on what part of the country and when you went thru the 'ordeal' -ex my dad went thru the ordeal in the early '70's and he was blindfolded and sent out in the woods, and had to 'survive' the night, nowadays with youth protection and hazing rules, a lot less is demanded of the ordeal candidates.

I will also continue to hope she does the uniform proud and survives the merge, and beyond!!!

Oh the beads are wooden replicas from the Zulu tribe in Africa that the founder Baden-Powell was given, many moons ago!!

Oh, so here's another possible twist, I wonder if any of the guys were ever boy scouts? That would definately form a natural alliance!!

Chiparock

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 06:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Re: geography -- perhaps the mistake is by CBS? They've been known to make an error or two!

Andrew, who is on the same team, is also a graduate of Univ. of Cincinnati -- could be the basis for an alliance. He might be able to protect her, for awhile at least. I suspect that both of them will get booted early in the game, though.

Hermione69

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
(HELLO CHIPAROCK and READER and everyone else.)

Reader, I just wanted to say thanks for your info on scouting. It was really eye-opening and good to be reminded of what a positive and life-changing experience it is for many people.

Chiparock

Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi, Hermi!

Does anyone else think that Lill looks very much like Joanne Woodward (Mrs. Paul Newman)?

Knightpatti

Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks likes she could be one of the first to go.

Tabbyking

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
reader, i was surprised the bio didn't say 'new mexico', too! my brother-in-law who passed away last spring went many times to philmont with his scout troop from northern california.

i think she looks like 'mrs. frizzle' from the kids' story books!

Tabbyking

Monday, September 15, 2003 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
and as for the uniform, if she had to jump ship in it, she was probably more appropriately dressed than any other survivor...especially if some were in dresses and heels, or armani suits!

Bbfanatic

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
wonder if the survivors knew they would be around each other that day. i think it would be dumb to wear an armani suit if so. you know how people tend to bring up the "need" word. i cant stand when they do but it happens. wearing the armani kind of makes you stand out. the same with the scout outfit she wore. it shows she has skills and may be a threat. but i think the armani would be the worst choice.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There is an Ely Township in Michigan.

Bracken

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The scout uniform seems to have been a better choice than some of the others clothing. Those pants look like they would be too hot, though.

She does look somewhat out of place in the uniform, and completely dressed whereas the others are wearing practically nothing. I'm not against this, especially at her age, but the hat, makes her look more than a little deranged.

All I could think of when they showed her was the Log Lady from Twin Peaks, lol.

She does seem very nice and so far. Smart move telling them about Nicole's strategy, I bet it saved her from being the first evicted, divide and conquer Lillian!

Crazydog

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Her entire identity seems to revolve around her boy scout troop. Is that an actual job? I thought it was like a voluntary hobby. She went on and on about how guilty she felt about her boys seeing her light a fire with the candle, and how her shirt was untucked. I found it so annoying.

Denecee

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she will be an asset to the Morgan tribe. She's honest and hard-working and knows something about roughing it.

Kalekona

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wearing the uniform was a smart move.. it gives the other suriviors that visual impression of the scouts, honest, trustworthy, brave, prepared..
If she is a scout master she will be honest, she has no choice.
But could it be at all possible (concidering the mistake reader found) that this is the "big Lie" Jeff talks about?