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Spear

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bracken, to be fair, she may have worn the uniform because she thought it was a photo shoot. She may have been planning to wear something else for the real game.

Texannie

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am thrown off by the mistake on the location of Philmont. My son is a scout and that is a huge deal! http://www.philmont.com/

Pamy

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tabby..LOL I totally agree about the Mrs. Frizzle ROTF!!!!
She seems to take her scout leader thing a bit too serious, IMO. and I thought MEN were boy scout leaders, and women were GIRL scout leaders...what up with that???

Texannie

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pamy..down here, it's mainly men that are the BS leaders but the mom's are the cub scout leaders

Not1worry

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think, had Lillian shown up in "civilian" clothes, she definitely would have gotten votes last night. By advertising she was a scoutmaster, they knew she could start a fire, (okay, so they had a candle, but she knew to dig it in). More importantly, when the choice came to decide who was truthful - Lillian or Nicole - no one hestitated to say Lillian. I was pleased to see that she held back and didn't boss everyone around, even though that would have been my impulse!

I liked her, she was realistic but not hopeless. The comments she made about scouting were only to individuals. She didn't go on and on about it to the group. Pretty hard not to mention it when you're wearing it.

Cinder

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There are professional Boy Scouts- but they do not generally have "troops" I too am still trying to determine if that is a paid job for her. I have heard the pants are quite comfortable. I recently made fun of my dad (who is a scout executive) for wearing his shorts all the time. He said they were the most comfortable shorts he owned.

Maris

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 05:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She is exactly like Miss Frizzle and even all those medals remind me of all the things hanging off Miss Frizzle. Ryan also reminds me of Ralphie.

I dont see Lillian lasting too long. Its a toss up whether she or Ryan are the next to go on Morgan.

Bracken

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I understand Spear, knew about the sabotage of the photo shoot, lol. I'm sure she did have other clothes, but she's stuck now.

I made the comment about the pants because Rupert said that his jeans would not dry and were too heavy, I assumed the same might be true of her pants being wet and heavy to wear, too.

As the oldest (I think), I'm glad that she had the uniform on so that she doesn't have to walk around half naked like the majority of the contestants.

Looks to me like she is playing fairly well so far, not attempting to take the leadership role, cause we all know that means being a target, etc. She's OK with me so far, looks like she will be losing her ally though, I bet Ryan S goes before she does.

Lumbele

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 11:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Volunteering for scouting, if taken seriously, takes a tremendous amount of time and energy. Anyone willing to get involved deserves plenty of kudos.
However, her abilities in roughing it may not keep her in good stead for too long when a team and its leader are thinking Immunity Challenge and strength.

Reader234

Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Waving!!

Lillian is a volunteer. Being a Scoutmaster of a troop is a job. The joke is it only takes "one hour a week" to be a Scoutmaster (per boy per troop in the council etc etc) My husband is a scoutmaster of a troop of 40 boys (Lillian's troop is reported to be around 60)> I have 2 boys, 18 and 15, my dh has been SM for 4 years. I missed him and my boys, I decided as I was a Girl Scout all thru school (and high school!!) and I achieved the highest award in Girl Scouts (like the Boy Scouts Eagle award, due to the females it is virtually UNKNOWN>..oops I digress!!) so anyway, I've put on a uniform, and I've chosen to be trained, and now I train other "scouters" (any adult that puts on a uniform and signs up is considered a "scouter" while boys are considered "scouts"). There are several "optional" advance training you can do... Lilian (AND me!!) have chosen to do the hardest advanced training (and you have to pay to do it, and its app a 3 week training session, which includes to overnight long weekends) its called Woodbadge. Once you complete the training you write out goals, and then you achieve those goals (app 5 seperate goals), you write a disertation (ha ha, its not the same everywhere, I'm bbitter, I have to redo mine!! It will fit into 2 3ring binders when I complete the write up UGGGGG!) and when its acceptable you earn your "beads" Lillian has her beads... HUGE deal!! :)

Philmont IS in New Mexico. There was a mistake on the CBS site. You can take training there, or you can get lucky and take a "trek" ( a group of scouts) Bears are a danger there, coyotes more so! It is very wearing on women to go thru (no details, but think 10 days no showers, that time of month....!!!)

And that scout uniform is made of teflon!!! ANd its expensive 35 bucks for the shirt alone, $33 for shorts!!! But it will hold up better than most!!

A mom from her troop has posted on Survivor Sucks, I think she may be looking to do "damage" control!! I survived posting in that thread!! *G*

Texasdeb

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 05:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm glad she didn't get booted the 1st wk. She needs to get a better head game going though or her days will be numbered. So far she's aligned herself with the weakest player on her team - not good from my seat as lurker.

Crazydog

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she was stupid for running right to Andrew and being all third grade and "telling on" Nicole. From the way the three men all got naked together it seems like they are a natural alliance, and they probably have Tijuana as well.

Lill only had Ryan S, and both of them were obvious targets for eviction. She should have worked with Nicole, and Nicole probably would have brought along Darriah. A 4-4 split in voting (probably Tijuana/Ryan S), and they can take their chances. If her group wins the vote, she controls the tribe until the merge.

Instead, she has merely bought herself and Ryan S another week. The next time they lose and go to tribal council, it seems to me pretty likely that she or Ryan S is going home. Not very good strategy.

Catfat

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe her being all dithery and indecisive is part of her UTR act. She is not perceived as a threat, they can vote her off at any time, so they will just keep her for the time being. If she can manage to hang on until the stronger players start booting each other off, it might just work for her.
I have decided that I like her. She is aligned with Ryan S., who is also perceived as weak and therefore not a threat.
I hope Jon from Drake tribe is booted off before Lilly is.

Tabbyking

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 04:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i agree with crazydog--lil should not have run to andrew. he feels he is calling the shots (and so far, they are letting him!).
and, not that she isn't honest, but just because she is a troop leader doesn't make lil any less suspect than any other tribemate in this game! andrew should not have been the deciding person on who went home, but they all followed along like sheep. andrew 'used' the scout thing to his advantage and put it in peoples' minds that lil could not lie. he doesn't really care who goes first, as long as it isn't himself! he was the first to suggest lil or ryan s, remember.....

i also think at this point, ryan s. and lil are on the chopping block for eviction; getting rid of nicole only put it off for a short time. hopefully, something will change.

Pannie

Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 10:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nice try, with her vote for Osten. She's a lone wolf now.

I hope the 'leader' Andrew gives props to Lil, like Jeff sure did at tribal council tonight. Of course, he couldn't share the leadership with Lil, could he?? Her UTR strategy will work, if only Andrew chooses another fall 'guy' (no other outsider's left for him to choose, tho').

Crazydog

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 09:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think she's under the radar. She is clearly an outsider and she doomed herself when she aligned with Ryan S. Props to her though, for doing the reward challenge sans pants. Even though it meant we had to see her white granny panties.

Reader234

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That was just SO wrong!! I've decided that MB et el should really be hit over the head, I'm sure they are all ROFLOL at her (and others) expense. OK, I get the survivor theme, and all this has to be new and fresh so people will watch... well I just wonder what would it have hurt to give them money to individuals to purchase clothes!! Only one pair of undies, please, its bordering on the real YUCK when you think of it, 39 days and only the clothes on your back - hey even Gilligan's Island people could chose to be shipwrecked with more than that!!

And she definately is a lone wolf, but I think that is more due to her age, and her being involved in Scouts, no one on her team can relate to that! I'm hoping she does get the boot early before Trish, and she's the one spoiled to make a comeback. I'm just not lovin this part of survivor, I've always waited till the merge to get involved!!

Not1worry

Friday, September 26, 2003 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Reader, give them clothing and soon! Seeing people's dingy drawers is not entertaining. Rupert's big, old whities under his skirt...well, I'm thankful that he does have them. Sandra's grimy bra straps under her buff weren't nice either. I'm hoping they get another chance to go into the village, but probably not.

Catfat

Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This might be a good time for Lil to step up to the plate and show them how it's done. They have NOTHING and the least she can do is be resourceful and find something to make do with. Maybe she could brazenly say' "I'll fix this place up if you promise to keep me for awhile." What would she have to lose?
She's a goner soon anyway, I am sorry to say.

Pannie

Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 05:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good suggestion, Catfat - "step up to the plate and show them how it's done". I am bemused, though, how Probst tried to toss her the leadership reins at TC, and she kept tossing them back.

The young bucks are in-charge, and without some fancy deal-making, she's never going to reign.

Tabbyking

Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i am still finding her a little ditzy. she either needs to show some gumption or get off the pot! i haven't really seen where her scouting stuff has panned out here, more's the pity. i hope she does something!

Crazydog

Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. She's all talk and no substance. She blabbered on about all the problems of their tribe last week, but up until then we had seen her do very little to fix it. I wonder if she picked her game up after Ryan went home? If Morgan loses immunity tonight, she is going home.

Reader234

Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 06:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think its editing crazydog (ok, I'm prejudice!! :) )

Anyway, I loved her tonight at the tc where she says there was lying going on and she couldnt do that (or something to that effect!!)

Just wanted to post to her!!

Tabbyking

Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 09:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
buh bye swoozie kurtz's facial-movement person. did she ever smile? not a happy camper at all. totally downtrodden.
i wanted osten to go, but lil was a total wimp tonight. IMO, of course. i just never saw her take charge and act like a good scout leader. maybe scouting isn't tough where she lives? she just had a 'dor-de-dor' attitude.

Tishala

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 01:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If the spoilers I have read about her are true, I'm not happy with this storyline.

I couldn't take Mrs. Lillian. Besides, I'm no great fan of the Boy Scout's homophobic policies.