Osten Giving Up?!?!?!
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Prisonerno6

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ayup, a wise move that let Drake gang up on the other Morgan boat and take it before turning on the last boat. Worked wonders.

Neko

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Elusive weapon of mass destruction is right!
*Pats her trout*

Now, Osten sinking his own boat...
I had to laugh, it was funny.

But I probably would have done the same..
I'd be standing up, trying to get more leverage and more water into a bost that's too far away for me, and those boats were very un-sturdy (For obvious reasons).
Standing in them would easily sink them.

Grooch, you go! You keep rooting for Osten!
He needs someone too

Grooch

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 08:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
HATERS!!!!!



Neetka

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Osten gave up in last night's competition as well. When they returned to camp he said something along the lines of "I knew it (the rope) was going to slip so I let go". If he was not a serial quitter he would have held on until it DID slip, because he had no way of knowing how close Rupert was to letting go. Granted he was suffering a lot more than Rupert was but how did he know that Rupert wasn't just hiding his pain? Saying he 'knew it would slip' is like saying he knows he is going to get pneumonia - wait until it happens and THEN quit!

Andrew did the same thing when he gave up on the swimming competition once he saw Drake pull their chest out of the water. Sure it's *unlikely* Morgan would have won in either case - but by giving up they guarenteed the loss. That entire team just has no heart. Or any ability to think logically!

Not1worry

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, Neetka, as much as I loathe Osten, I thought that at first too. But if he held on until the rope slipped through, he hands could have gotten seriously torn up. At this point, I'm assuming the absolute worst on Osten, I really, really can't stand him. But to be fair, I understand why he let loose on the rope.

I still think he quit mentally. I have been to the point of total muscle failure, I know what it feels like. But he quit.

Lorry

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not really an Osten fan, but I LOVE looking at him... hehe

Grooch made some good points... not that I agree, well not completely disagree either... but I am glad that we can see both the good and the not so great in Osten.. Hey, he might just be "da man" ... if he could get a little help from his team.

Plenty of show left... we have to wait and see.

Maris

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont think he quit. He held on for an hour and forty five minutes. That isnt all bad. I think he is a whiner but I believe he gave it everything he had and put up against anyone except Rupert he would have won it. Rupert is pretty amazing and he is going to be very hard to beat.

Enigma2

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Osten has realized that his major asset –his body– will begin to disintegrate with the lack of food and the difficult conditions of rough living.

And it is now clear that his precious body is not a physical match against Rupert.

The next time he states that he wants to leave: let him go...

Catfat

Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Osten's hands probably really were cut and sore, he doesn't look as if he uses his hands for any work harder than typing. Rupert (Yea, Rupert!!!) probably has hands as tough as pine knots. He would have held out til his arms separated at the shoulders.

Prisonerno6

Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 08:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rupert also wrapped his buff around his dominant hand before grabbing on to the rope so the rope wouldn't cut his hand up. It wasn't all a matter of brawn -- it was also a matter of brains.

Lorry

Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 09:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Rupert's hold on the rope was more than just brut strength. I think determination, desire to win, and team spirit was a major part of his ability to win.

I don't think Osten was beaten by Rupert's strength, but beat by his own team's lack of motivation and support during the days leading up to the challenge. Osten was under a lot of pressure, and due to his tribe's inability to secure food, sleep and spirit was all part of why he lost.

Enigma2

Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The next time the Drakettes get to pillage the Morganites, they should send Rupert. And he should take Osten's shorts...

Lorry

Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 09:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ohhhh... yeah!!! Now stop it Enigma, my heart cannot take it... hahahaha

Auntiemike

Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 04:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Enigma: Since the shorts are obviously to big for Osten they might fit Rupert's fine girth. Don't you think??!!!??

On a side note: it is interesting that a woman has been sent each time now to pillage. What are the men afraid of???

Pamy

Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Men aren't afraid, they are smart!! They know the person pillaging will be more hated than other tribemates. At this point not that it will matter, Morgan will be pagonged unless there is a major twist.

Sia

Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 06:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Regardless of whether or not the buff wrapped around his hand helped Rupert, you have to admit that Rupertbear just had more strength than Osten at the end of that endurance challenge. Osten was unable to keep his rope up off the wooden bar, unlike Rupert, whose rope never touched the "hitching post" once Jeff Probst told the guys to keep their ropes lifted. Rupert is incredibly strong.

What an exciting, new and innovative challenge. I credit the show's creative team for constantly coming up with new ideas that we've never seen. I thought that was a fabulous challenge. And the boat challenge was equally ingenious and well-executed.

Meridian

Monday, October 06, 2003 - 05:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
When JP directed Rupert and Osten to maintain the rope above the hitching post, he changed the dynamics of the pulley system. Osten is somewhat shorter than Rupert, therefore his center of gravity is lower. By holding the rope higher, he couldn't keep his balance nor summon the strength to continue. Rupert's height and weight clearly gave him an added advantage.

Needmylifeback

Monday, October 06, 2003 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess I never noticed Meridian...I thought Osten was taller than Rupert....but, then maybe he had dug himself deeper into the sand....I'll have to try and look through my tape to see the height differential.